I wouldn't say this is the most reliable source though. Tier lists will be created only after some time spent playing the detachments, and from the testing people already see some patterns, like hogs definitely NOT being T1. Also, Auspex seems to have missed a couple of nerfs, like Hogs no longer getting +1 hit, which crashes their damage output or -1 wound on Nobz only applying to Nobz if the attack is > than their T. Stompa is a mess, as always, but now you have a chance to actually hit something before you lose your 800 pts t1 or t2 :D
Ive lost every game my stompa has played but he has always made back his points, I only play casual but even chaos knights wounded me on 5s most of the time!
@@AfroChef If he'd make his points back you'd win ;) I'm just kidding, you're a legend for using Stompa successfully, my comments are aimed mostly at competitive (similarly to auspex video). Casually, Stompa sure is fun :)
@@wormhistoryhour5 I don't doubt you, everyone who uses Stompa is a legend in my book, but I'm mostly talking about competitive where it won't be usable at all But it sure is fun if you somehow manage to get it to melee over some of the terrain that's in use :D
They might've been tier 3 if the mek with KFF still existed, because its a cheap ranged invuln and +1 to shooting, but without it, yeah... If only the shootas had assault. If they had assault, the new Big Mek might actually be enough to make a 20 swarm of shoota boys decent.
The Big Mek gives Mek keyword to 10 to 20 boys with rokkits and shootas. Re roll 1s and can press the dread mob button for sustained hits or lethal or extra ap. And they're still Boyz. So punching at 2 times at s4 is still nothing to scoff at for light infantry, s5 in the waaaagh turn. It's for sure tier 3 in a Dreadmob lol.
@mizter5597 it increases the strength of the close combat weapons so they go to s5 during waaaagh which is what I was talking about when I said punching.
Orkz win fights, but grots win battles. Those little green gitz'll hold your home objective, they'll cower about doing actions to get you VP, and they'll even dig you up CP with their special rule. If you were to track VP earned by units in your games, the grots will score top almost every time.
Its his full time job and the presentation is fairly simple. A powerpoint wirh often recicled pages and a minimal script voice over. Its still impressive tho.
@@uwesca6263I love how simple and effective his style is, it’s in perfect opposition to most crap on YT that looks fantastic but is completely useless and hollow
I for one welcome our new Meganob overlords. Legit though I'm stoked for our boyz in green, who *doesn't* love a good Ork opponent?!? Coming from the Custodes Codex it's kinda shocking how well they knocked this one out of the park. Fluffy, fun *and* powerful. Almost makes me wanna start an Orks army :P
Just picked up a second beast snagga battpeforce and the stompa boyz box because i have a problem with plastic...but this will help guide my future decisions on certain units for sure!
i dont think Orks will dominate turnaments like we have seen with other armies before. Orks still have some hard counters in Grey knights, Death guard and Necrons
@@mtrunkello "justifiably so" LOOK AT DIS GIT. Orks spent all the editions before 8th being the 'punching bag that sometimes punches back' faction. 8th & 9th have seen incremental improvements. There should be zero nerfs for Orks, especially since GW basically gutted the dread mob.
I think people tend to sleep on the Boosta-Blasta. For its pretty low points it's a unit that can significantly debuff something big and scary like a Knight or a C'tan (remember that debuff is for both shooting and melee) whilst pinging about in the backfield. It's not dangerous enough to be high on people's target priority list when they've got loads of angry Orks closing in on them, yet it makes dealing with those Orks just that little bit harder. I'd imagine Guard in particular will make some interesting faces when three of these things in KoS debuff all their tanks whilst teleporting Dragstas assassinate their officers...
@@georgefinnegan2369 I don't have the Codex yet, but based on the Index rules you can certainly apply both effects at the same time, but the 'to hit' modifier still caps out at -1. So it wouldn't usually do much unless the attacking unit had an effect giving them +1 to hit which would cancel out one of the -1s.
Auspex thanks for all your hard work, your great content, and clear concise information! Please make a video telling me what to do with my looted Leman Russ and Kill Tank models. Thanks in advance!
It feels like a lot of the units I used to take for some anti tank now can't do it in decent capacity anymore. Orks were already struggling on that front and GW decided to make it worse.
For me I see the solution… If pouring bullets into an enemy isn’t working… Pour MoAR DAKKA INTA EM! I think we still have tools for higher armor. Kunnin and Brutal ones alike
Naw, I say surprise them! Maybe you’ll even get enough practice I. With it that you’ll find tricks the Bully Boyz and Otha Gits don’t see! It’s great when there are Tons of ads to play an army
It’s so disappointing that games workshop is just like “let’s make sure some of the coolest (in my opinion) units in the entire game (aircraft) are nearly unusable.”
The only thing relevant to GW is money. They have sold the models they wanted to sell, and there are no new releases coming, so they can just let them rot. The second new flyers are coming, that entire unit type will get massive buffs.
A bonus point for the weirdboy- secondaries. He can teleport around the board and score those secondaries, also if you take him solo, he can fit into a narrow place with his 40mm base.
Boomdakka Buggy also gives a -1 to hit for enemy units with a 6" aura called Dust Trail. I could see that being pretty useful if it can get close enough to get stuck in with your bikes. Also a pretty strong combo combined with Rivetin' Dakka? I can combine these two abilities?
Man I have been telling people about the stompa mek combo for months now and NO ONE listened, it’s shooting plus sustained hits in melee wasn’t the absolute best but it was good, now it’s higher tier and the moment I buy one people are gonna think I meta chase instead of calling it awhile back😭😭
I got my first Stompa a year or two back as part of the local GW store's secret Santa gift exchange, and yea, the Stompa-Mek combo is a must-have for helping keep the big stompy guy alive. Ordered the Stompa battleforce and I will definitely cheese those 1600 pts once I get the 2nd one built, 'meta chaser' allegations be damned.
I would say the hogs are not tier 1 (anymore). The warhorde stratagem of -1 to wound was nerfed, and they don't have a leader giving +1 to hit anymore. If you are not running them in war horde that loosing both sustained and +1 to hit, loosing a third of all their hits. That is quite a big decrease in damage output.
The Deffkilla Wartrike....... The wording says "If you would advance, instead add 6" to the movement of models in this unit". I'd think that means exactly how it sounds. 18" movement, then can charge. That's how I've been playing it for all of 10th, because Advance, and Movement are two very different things, and the ability does state the "Instead" word. But of course, GW didn't clarify in the codex, so I'm sure it'll be a topic of debate.
@@edwardguise6440It's just really bad wording because if you take it as it's written it's exactly as that post says, 6 in instead of advancing. It should say instead of rolling the advance roll, advance 6 in instead.
In addition to this, the Rules Commentary for "Do Not Make an Advance Roll Abilities" States: "Abilities that instruct players not to make an advance roll for a unit, but instead to increase the move characteristic of models in that unit by a specified amount, cannot be used with other abilities or rules that also instruct players not to make an advance roll for the unit. In such instances, the controlling player must choose which of those abilities to use." No where in the rules commentary does it say you can't charge after using this, and no where does it state that this still counts as making an advance, therefore not being eligible to shoot or charge. Find me a rules commentary that says otherwise, and I'll admit I'm wrong. Until then, I will continue to play as I have been.
Posting this before watching. My guess is Ghaz and any unit created since will be high tier. Since they have new sets to sell. Vehicles will drop down because they aren’t trying to sell Speed Freaks boxes. While Beast Snaggaz will reign.
Glad I'm not alone in thinking the new Big Mek is a weird mashup of directions. If more Ork guns had [Assault] it might be different. Why on earth they don't is beyond me, but that goes for a lot of things in 10th edition tbqh ._.
How does everyone feel about the ability that killa Kanz now have? Seems more like a last ditch attempt to roll for a way to damage something that NEEDS to die at the risk just taking a ton of mortals I feel like if it was gonna do d6 it could’ve been on a 1, and just do nothing on a 2 which would be kinda funny.
It’s seems like a very orky way to play the game tbh, orks of old was very you could table someone turn 1 or kill half of your own units I love this change
@@stuartbanana5083 it’s only +1 s or +1 a from their own ability. Using kills Kanz otherwise seems like it’ll be fun with the strata in the detachment though
@@macaulaymcgregor768 I disagree orky does not mean bad. orky should be a risk for a compensating reward. The kans new ability is lopsided It's risk is too high for the small reward. It needs to be changed to D3 mortals In my opinion
@@macaulaymcgregor768 _Fondly remembering all the times I blew my own Mega-Armored Warboss out of his own trukk because I had a Looted Basilisk and the scatter dice betrayed me._ Ah nostalgia.
squighog boyz are a lot weaker now when it comes to dmg output , they lost +1 to hit option and stustain (out side war horde), 6 model were problematic to move expecialy on WTC terain and not to metion now with 8-9 model units. So honesly they would be lower T2 unit in my opinion.
Yeah i think people don't realise. I already struggle to get 6 Squighog Boyz plus bigger base of Nob into b2b or touching a model in b2b. Now i have to try and fit another larger Nob base and the huge circular squigboss base? Plus there's now no point trying to hide the unit behind cover, and GW puts the whole unit at risk for the tip of one models base, but now no -1 to wound strat unless war horde
@@Phlebas99 it's not just squighog, community is over reacting over Meganobz and Squighogs. The real gem coming out of the codex are the boys on detach in m opinion. 2x20 with reposition with weirdboy and charge strat, plus 60 bricks of hard to shift bricks that can threaten even high T with W re-rolls for 1 CP, with constant model regen. Honestly don't get it how people look at other stuff like meganobz and take it as oppressive... armchair players in my book.
While an overall pretty good codex I have to say it's sad that there are units that literally have zero rule support. In my opinion every single model should at least have some detachment / stratagem support somewhere in support somewhere in The codex. The flash gitz and burnas both have no support, They need to be given leaders
I dont think Lootas and Killrig belong in tier 2, lootas got a small buff in dread horde but they are still awefull. The killrig has no out put and dies if you look at it hard with a las cannon
I'm surprissed burnas and lootas aren't considered mek units since are leaded by a spanner (a lesser mek). I feel the boyz need to be separated in two unita, choppa boyz and shoota boyz (yes, like in DoW), so the dakka ones can have some kind of better shooting rule.
Agree with ya here Boss. Them Spannas deserve sum Dakkolades fur holdin them triggers down til they blow up! Respect! Plus it’d be Great for Dred Mob not having to run Big Meks wit em.
Sry auspex, have to disagree with your take. Snikrot will probably never see the tables, kommandos aren't good and there are better units to do his job if needed (stormboyz), plus he is a single model, he brings neither DPS or tankiness to the table and while redeploy is interesting that's of limited use(rather have bodies and speed). Your also following on the community hype in meganobs, their a good tarpit unit but that's it.. their not as mobile, and their way less scary then 10 nobz + warboss for 275pts, that's 49 attacks during waggh vs 22 attacks (saw, 28 if claw). Honestly boy's on green tide are far more dangerous and durable. Art of war even mentioned he expects nerfs to green tide boy's. Also squighogs while receiving a slight buff with increase squad size received a double nerf if i recall, i might be wrong on this but they lost the +1 to hit from nobz so their hitting on 3, on a unit that cost's 40pts a model exactly the same cost they had with nerf, i am not seeing them more then A tier, your paying 320pts for each group and give up board presence and get a unit which is mediocre versus most things. Not sold one bit on that. Still too soon anyway to come to a conclusion.
@@Delusional_Dio nothing wrong with that, fun is fun, but auspex is speaking from a competitive perspective, not a casual one. So I respect your point of view, but we are speaking different things.
You wouldn't get the Gitz' ability "Gun Crazy Show Offs" which can make em BS4 anyways, because, Its the Trukk making the attack (why the Mek's +1hit works). So while an interesting idea I think it'd be better utilized by another transported unit.
The fact that an entire unit type (aircraft) is artificially made to be terrible for most factions is so lame. I guess we have to wait until GW releases new flyers and immediately buffs the hell out of them.
I predict that only the new flyers will be really good, the rest will be almost ok. Then when they sell enough of the new flyers they will nerf them all back to shit.
I'd have to double check the numbers, but there's a good chance you could take that Stompa Battle Force, add in another Stompa, and easily hit that 2k mark. So yeah, 2 stompas plus around a hundred grots definitely sounds plausible.
Zogrod isnt' even tier3 for the 80pts. That's far too much. It'd be more worth doubling up on two units of Gretchin to 22 models each if you wanted to either 1, block deepstrike in the back field or 2, gum up midfield. You could stick a Beastboss into a unit of BSB for 80pts or take a unit of StormBoyz for 65 that will threaten deepstrike.
You're objectively shit at the game if you think trukks are bad. They're a staple for a reason. You clearly have never even looked at tournament standings, played in a competitive setting or spoken to comp players.
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All orks are ork tier
Except grots, who are just pure grot.
Blessed greeniest post
As gork (or possibly mork) intended
Is approve!
Da red gobo will save are kind
The Stompa is no longer in Tier 5. And there I thought nothing could ever tempt me to play 10th...
I wouldn't say this is the most reliable source though. Tier lists will be created only after some time spent playing the detachments, and from the testing people already see some patterns, like hogs definitely NOT being T1. Also, Auspex seems to have missed a couple of nerfs, like Hogs no longer getting +1 hit, which crashes their damage output or -1 wound on Nobz only applying to Nobz if the attack is > than their T.
Stompa is a mess, as always, but now you have a chance to actually hit something before you lose your 800 pts t1 or t2 :D
@@dominikapera9295every game iv brought it my stompa lasted me till turn 4
Ive lost every game my stompa has played but he has always made back his points, I only play casual but even chaos knights wounded me on 5s most of the time!
@@AfroChef If he'd make his points back you'd win ;)
I'm just kidding, you're a legend for using Stompa successfully, my comments are aimed mostly at competitive (similarly to auspex video).
Casually, Stompa sure is fun :)
@@wormhistoryhour5 I don't doubt you, everyone who uses Stompa is a legend in my book, but I'm mostly talking about competitive where it won't be usable at all
But it sure is fun if you somehow manage to get it to melee over some of the terrain that's in use :D
Should be noted that Boyz being in Tier 2 is if you're taking choppas. Shoota Boyz are still very weak, Tier 4 regardless of detachment.
They might've been tier 3 if the mek with KFF still existed, because its a cheap ranged invuln and +1 to shooting, but without it, yeah...
If only the shootas had assault. If they had assault, the new Big Mek might actually be enough to make a 20 swarm of shoota boys decent.
The Big Mek gives Mek keyword to 10 to 20 boys with rokkits and shootas. Re roll 1s and can press the dread mob button for sustained hits or lethal or extra ap. And they're still Boyz. So punching at 2 times at s4 is still nothing to scoff at for light infantry, s5 in the waaaagh turn.
It's for sure tier 3 in a Dreadmob lol.
Sadly waghh doesnt increase the strength of the shootas, so they are stuck at s4 @AltoStratusX1
@mizter5597 it increases the strength of the close combat weapons so they go to s5 during waaaagh which is what I was talking about when I said punching.
@AltoStratusX1 ahh yeah okay my bad, I misunderstood
Even after 10th edition nerf, the Gretchin still on the top is something to said about them
Orkz win fights, but grots win battles.
Those little green gitz'll hold your home objective, they'll cower about doing actions to get you VP, and they'll even dig you up CP with their special rule.
If you were to track VP earned by units in your games, the grots will score top almost every time.
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This says a lot about society...
Wtf how many videos can Auspex make in a week??!?! Ty my man, was waiting for this one
You must be new here 😉
Its his full time job and the presentation is fairly simple. A powerpoint wirh often recicled pages and a minimal script voice over. Its still impressive tho.
@@uwesca6263I love how simple and effective his style is, it’s in perfect opposition to most crap on YT that looks fantastic but is completely useless and hollow
It was great seeing you play a game a few days ago Auspex against Mord!
3 beastboss on squigosaur, each with 8 man units, one of them has the scout Enhancement... YES PLEASE
Squig Calvary seems like it going to be a popular army set up, and I'm excited to see it!
@@KappaKiller108 more like Squig Stampede 🤣
ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS WAAAAAAAAAAGH (to the tune of the orks song of course)
Remember in 9th where people brought the burna bomma just to use flyin eadbutt to crash it?
I for one welcome our new Meganob overlords. Legit though I'm stoked for our boyz in green, who *doesn't* love a good Ork opponent?!? Coming from the Custodes Codex it's kinda shocking how well they knocked this one out of the park. Fluffy, fun *and* powerful. Almost makes me wanna start an Orks army :P
JOIN DA WAAAGH N BE ONE OFF DA BOYZ
Just picked up a second beast snagga battpeforce and the stompa boyz box because i have a problem with plastic...but this will help guide my future decisions on certain units for sure!
I own every beast snagga unit but my local store has a beast box for 190!
Enjoy it while you can boyz, I smell nerfs on the horizon.
Justifiably so... top units are cheap for what they do.
i dont think Orks will dominate turnaments like we have seen with other armies before. Orks still have some hard counters in Grey knights, Death guard and Necrons
@@mtrunkello "justifiably so" LOOK AT DIS GIT. Orks spent all the editions before 8th being the 'punching bag that sometimes punches back' faction. 8th & 9th have seen incremental improvements. There should be zero nerfs for Orks, especially since GW basically gutted the dread mob.
I think people tend to sleep on the Boosta-Blasta. For its pretty low points it's a unit that can significantly debuff something big and scary like a Knight or a C'tan (remember that debuff is for both shooting and melee) whilst pinging about in the backfield. It's not dangerous enough to be high on people's target priority list when they've got loads of angry Orks closing in on them, yet it makes dealing with those Orks just that little bit harder. I'd imagine Guard in particular will make some interesting faces when three of these things in KoS debuff all their tanks whilst teleporting Dragstas assassinate their officers...
Sadly the KBB's debuff now only affects Ranged attacks. Because the one thing that any of the Buggies needed was nerfing.
Can this be combined with Boomdakka Buggy: Dust Trails?
@@georgefinnegan2369 I don't have the Codex yet, but based on the Index rules you can certainly apply both effects at the same time, but the 'to hit' modifier still caps out at -1. So it wouldn't usually do much unless the attacking unit had an effect giving them +1 to hit which would cancel out one of the -1s.
Dude is nonstop on the content
Some say Tactics is in fact the CPU of GW. Which was also the name of the AI in Metal Gear Solid 2.
Auspex thanks for all your hard work, your great content, and clear concise information! Please make a video telling me what to do with my looted Leman Russ and Kill Tank models. Thanks in advance!
It feels like a lot of the units I used to take for some anti tank now can't do it in decent capacity anymore. Orks were already struggling on that front and GW decided to make it worse.
For me I see the solution… If pouring bullets into an enemy isn’t working… Pour MoAR DAKKA INTA EM!
I think we still have tools for higher armor. Kunnin and Brutal ones alike
@@stuartbanana5083More can always do it but what matters is efficiency. Can we do it efficiently.
Yes we 'ave da dakka n we 'ave da kunin,
Guess i picked a bad time to start building a Mad Max: Fury Road style Evil Sunz Ork Motor Caravan.
Fwiw, cult of speed looks like a LOT of fun!
Naw, I say surprise them!
Maybe you’ll even get enough practice I. With it that you’ll find tricks the Bully Boyz and Otha Gits don’t see! It’s great when there are Tons of ads to play an army
@@prettyflyforacompsci7725 It's been pretty fun going absolutely apeshit with evil sunz Scarlet and averland yellow so far.
Thanks for the breakdown. You rock 🤘🏽
It’s so disappointing that games workshop is just like “let’s make sure some of the coolest (in my opinion) units in the entire game (aircraft) are nearly unusable.”
Feels like they’re being cowards in fear of repeating past edition Flyer Spam.
At the very least give them all hover!
The only thing relevant to GW is money. They have sold the models they wanted to sell, and there are no new releases coming, so they can just let them rot. The second new flyers are coming, that entire unit type will get massive buffs.
A bonus point for the weirdboy- secondaries. He can teleport around the board and score those secondaries, also if you take him solo, he can fit into a narrow place with his 40mm base.
doesnt matter if Kult of Speed sucks im still going to build it!
I've been waiting for this!
the stompa is finally good :D
Boomdakka Buggy also gives a -1 to hit for enemy units with a 6" aura called Dust Trail. I could see that being pretty useful if it can get close enough to get stuck in with your bikes. Also a pretty strong combo combined with Rivetin' Dakka? I can combine these two abilities?
Giving the painboss a similar lone operator to how the mek works would make them much more worth taking
Giving its buff out as an Aura or as a chosen effect once per turn like the Mek?
Hmmmm, makes me think back to older editions.
The burns cannot really use the dread mob detachment rules except for the AP boost, even if you could add a mek to them, but they can take a painboy.
Just as I started to paint my bois
What was that truck boyz strat he mentioned about disembarking and charging from a transport ( in the truck section) .....it's not in the codex
Kult of speed enhancement
Man I have been telling people about the stompa mek combo for months now and NO ONE listened, it’s shooting plus sustained hits in melee wasn’t the absolute best but it was good, now it’s higher tier and the moment I buy one people are gonna think I meta chase instead of calling it awhile back😭😭
I got my first Stompa a year or two back as part of the local GW store's secret Santa gift exchange, and yea, the Stompa-Mek combo is a must-have for helping keep the big stompy guy alive. Ordered the Stompa battleforce and I will definitely cheese those 1600 pts once I get the 2nd one built, 'meta chaser' allegations be damned.
@@internetzenmaster8952 The mek doesn't so anything for keeping it alive frankly, it's the +1 to hit which is important
I would say the hogs are not tier 1 (anymore). The warhorde stratagem of -1 to wound was nerfed, and they don't have a leader giving +1 to hit anymore. If you are not running them in war horde that loosing both sustained and +1 to hit, loosing a third of all their hits. That is quite a big decrease in damage output.
Can you run down an army that focuses on being fast and hitting hard that matches the snakebite aesthetic?
The Deffkilla Wartrike....... The wording says "If you would advance, instead add 6" to the movement of models in this unit". I'd think that means exactly how it sounds. 18" movement, then can charge. That's how I've been playing it for all of 10th, because Advance, and Movement are two very different things, and the ability does state the "Instead" word. But of course, GW didn't clarify in the codex, so I'm sure it'll be a topic of debate.
The "instead" replaces the advance roll, rather than the advancing itself.
@@edwardguise6440It's just really bad wording because if you take it as it's written it's exactly as that post says, 6 in instead of advancing. It should say instead of rolling the advance roll, advance 6 in instead.
@@stevecatpatrick8056 You still declare that the unit is Advancing. The ability just replaces the die roll. That negates a non-waagh turn charge.
So you've been cheating for all of 10th
In addition to this, the Rules Commentary for "Do Not Make an Advance Roll Abilities" States:
"Abilities that instruct players not to make an advance roll for a unit, but instead to increase the move characteristic of models in that unit by a specified amount, cannot be used with other abilities or rules that also instruct players not to make an advance roll for the unit. In such instances, the controlling player must choose which of those abilities to use."
No where in the rules commentary does it say you can't charge after using this, and no where does it state that this still counts as making an advance, therefore not being eligible to shoot or charge. Find me a rules commentary that says otherwise, and I'll admit I'm wrong. Until then, I will continue to play as I have been.
This man is a legend.
Codex vs index points what’s the difference and which ones should I be using?
The newest field Manuel on Warhammer Community. Literally Never the printed points
Posting this before watching. My guess is Ghaz and any unit created since will be high tier. Since they have new sets to sell.
Vehicles will drop down because they aren’t trying to sell Speed Freaks boxes. While Beast Snaggaz will reign.
Glad I'm not alone in thinking the new Big Mek is a weird mashup of directions.
If more Ork guns had [Assault] it might be different. Why on earth they don't is beyond me, but that goes for a lot of things in 10th edition tbqh ._.
How does everyone feel about the ability that killa Kanz now have? Seems more like a last ditch attempt to roll for a way to damage something that NEEDS to die at the risk just taking a ton of mortals
I feel like if it was gonna do d6 it could’ve been on a 1, and just do nothing on a 2 which would be kinda funny.
It’s seems like a very orky way to play the game tbh, orks of old was very you could table someone turn 1 or kill half of your own units I love this change
D3 might make it more of a choice. D6 1/3 of the tip is Rough for the small or niche boost. It I like it overall. Str 10 Kan Klaws or Rokkits is cool.
@@stuartbanana5083 it’s only +1 s or +1 a from their own ability. Using kills Kanz otherwise seems like it’ll be fun with the strata in the detachment though
@@macaulaymcgregor768 I disagree orky does not mean bad. orky should be a risk for a compensating reward. The kans new ability is lopsided It's risk is too high for the small reward. It needs to be changed to D3 mortals In my opinion
@@macaulaymcgregor768 _Fondly remembering all the times I blew my own Mega-Armored Warboss out of his own trukk because I had a Looted Basilisk and the scatter dice betrayed me._ Ah nostalgia.
squighog boyz are a lot weaker now when it comes to dmg output , they lost +1 to hit option and stustain (out side war horde), 6 model were problematic to move expecialy on WTC terain and not to metion now with 8-9 model units. So honesly they would be lower T2 unit in my opinion.
Yeah i think people don't realise. I already struggle to get 6 Squighog Boyz plus bigger base of Nob into b2b or touching a model in b2b.
Now i have to try and fit another larger Nob base and the huge circular squigboss base?
Plus there's now no point trying to hide the unit behind cover, and GW puts the whole unit at risk for the tip of one models base, but now no -1 to wound strat unless war horde
@@Phlebas99 it's not just squighog, community is over reacting over Meganobz and Squighogs. The real gem coming out of the codex are the boys on detach in m opinion. 2x20 with reposition with weirdboy and charge strat, plus 60 bricks of hard to shift bricks that can threaten even high T with W re-rolls for 1 CP, with constant model regen. Honestly don't get it how people look at other stuff like meganobz and take it as oppressive... armchair players in my book.
Wher wer the grot tanks?
4:02 a little bit on the MEEDIOOOCERRR side (said like immortan joe)
Sad that my newly painted Kommandos aren't as good atm but Snikrot soloing is kinda on theme.
Whyz green at da bottum
STOMPA LEFT TIER 5
Dere are no weak boyz, cus Orkz is da strongest n' da shootiest dere is!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
Putting the stompa in tier 3 is just trolling and you know it
Grustice for grots legends
I would go 3x kommandos, only because they look cool 😊
Good video but not on the same mind when it comes to most of tier 4
While an overall pretty good codex I have to say it's sad that there are units that literally have zero rule support. In my opinion every single model should at least have some detachment / stratagem support somewhere in support somewhere in The codex. The flash gitz and burnas both have no support, They need to be given leaders
I dont think Lootas and Killrig belong in tier 2, lootas got a small buff in dread horde but they are still awefull. The killrig has no out put and dies if you look at it hard with a las cannon
Nice powerpoint.
yesss i like meganobz!
Kommandos cannot be overwatched... I think people forget this constantly.. thats part of the reason theyre 135pts...
They’re really nice to have if you have the extra points but I just don’t need 10 of them, I don’t think
No warboss in mega armour?
It was in tier 3 grouped with another unit, I believe that it was with the Big Mek in Mega armour
I'm surprissed burnas and lootas aren't considered mek units since are leaded by a spanner (a lesser mek).
I feel the boyz need to be separated in two unita, choppa boyz and shoota boyz (yes, like in DoW), so the dakka ones can have some kind of better shooting rule.
Agree with ya here Boss. Them Spannas deserve sum Dakkolades fur holdin them triggers down til they blow up! Respect!
Plus it’d be Great for Dred Mob not having to run Big Meks wit em.
Sry auspex, have to disagree with your take. Snikrot will probably never see the tables, kommandos aren't good and there are better units to do his job if needed (stormboyz), plus he is a single model, he brings neither DPS or tankiness to the table and while redeploy is interesting that's of limited use(rather have bodies and speed). Your also following on the community hype in meganobs, their a good tarpit unit but that's it.. their not as mobile, and their way less scary then 10 nobz + warboss for 275pts, that's 49 attacks during waggh vs 22 attacks (saw, 28 if claw). Honestly boy's on green tide are far more dangerous and durable. Art of war even mentioned he expects nerfs to green tide boy's. Also squighogs while receiving a slight buff with increase squad size received a double nerf if i recall, i might be wrong on this but they lost the +1 to hit from nobz so their hitting on 3, on a unit that cost's 40pts a model exactly the same cost they had with nerf, i am not seeing them more then A tier, your paying 320pts for each group and give up board presence and get a unit which is mediocre versus most things. Not sold one bit on that. Still too soon anyway to come to a conclusion.
I will still be using Snikrot, Nobz, and Zogrod. They are cool and I will have a great time playing them.
@@Delusional_Dio nothing wrong with that, fun is fun, but auspex is speaking from a competitive perspective, not a casual one. So I respect your point of view, but we are speaking different things.
Mega jobs mega Nobz get ya mega nobz
WAAAGH!
How funny the worst choice of the fine cast models stay in 😂
tankbustas LIVE METTER!
10 man squad in Trukk with a Mek, have Mek disembark, give truck +1 to hit. Those 30 flash gitz shots can be okay.
You wouldn't get the Gitz' ability "Gun Crazy Show Offs" which can make em BS4 anyways, because, Its the Trukk making the attack (why the Mek's +1hit works). So while an interesting idea I think it'd be better utilized by another transported unit.
@@ieatstheinternet That’s why I said 30 shots and not a possible 40. Yessir
The new ork codex actually has a new rule many don't know you have to use the squig dice every time you play them
Top Ork units are anything 3D printed. Bottem are full price GW grot tanks going to legends.
The fact that an entire unit type (aircraft) is artificially made to be terrible for most factions is so lame. I guess we have to wait until GW releases new flyers and immediately buffs the hell out of them.
I predict that only the new flyers will be really good, the rest will be almost ok.
Then when they sell enough of the new flyers they will nerf them all back to shit.
DA BOYZZZZ
So i could take 2 stompas and roughly a hundret gretchins in a 2 k list?
Yes, there is nothing stopping you.
I'd have to double check the numbers, but there's a good chance you could take that Stompa Battle Force, add in another Stompa, and easily hit that 2k mark. So yeah, 2 stompas plus around a hundred grots definitely sounds plausible.
Forgot that you need a warlord, but it's still mostly doable.
Zogrod isnt' even tier3 for the 80pts. That's far too much. It'd be more worth doubling up on two units of Gretchin to 22 models each if you wanted to either 1, block deepstrike in the back field or 2, gum up midfield. You could stick a Beastboss into a unit of BSB for 80pts or take a unit of StormBoyz for 65 that will threaten deepstrike.
#orksorksorks
Waaagh
Yoy
As far as I am concerned, the chance to implode in dread mob is a bonus.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
I wish the Nobz and Meganobz would get some proper new miniatures.
Waaaaaagghhh
painboy is S+, def got that wrong
First 🎉 WAAAGH!!!!
Once again, my Stompa will remain in the cupboard, not being touched for another 10 years
Why? Have you even tried it out yet, or do you just wait for TH-camrs with very little in game experience tell you what to play?
@@jacket2848 Its not about what it does, but how much it costs. 800points is just bad, I can fill my list with soooooo much better things.
My really,,really fucking dumb list Im working on saving to buy:
1x GMan Thrakka
3x Mek
2x Stompa
DATZ IT
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Deffcoptas are objectively better than bikes, and the trukk is useless as a transport when you can't charge units out of it.
Trash in da Trukks like Dat ain’t t right!
Just need to get the Boyz into Krumpin range. Drive up T1, Waaaaaaaagh!!! T2, drop Boys and charge.
@@stuartbanana5083 And then they get blasted because they can't melee and they are stuck in range of the enemy with no way of fighting them. F tier.
You're objectively shit at the game if you think trukks are bad. They're a staple for a reason. You clearly have never even looked at tournament standings, played in a competitive setting or spoken to comp players.
Thanks Auspex. I appreciate the video's. But my love is conditional! No Femstodes!
"love" lmao
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