Following On In India - England Collapse Again As India Seal The Series!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Andrew McKenna is joined by the former England bowlers Steve Harmison and Alex Tudor to look back at England's 4-1 series defeat in India after they lost the 5th and final Test by an innings and 64 runs.
They discuss yet another batting collapse from England, where they go from here, and debate whether they need to evolve their new way of thinking. They also hear exclusively from the England captain Ben Stokes and the thoughts of India captain Rohit Sharma and the India spinner Ravichandran Ashwin.
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Only time India was under pressure was in Ranchi test where Root batted traditionally and got England to 350 and India had a collapse in their first innings. Victory in the first test was miraculous
Steve: India might have won the series but all the positives and real winners are England(mentality monsters) 👏🏽👏🏽
You mean Moral Victory 😁
@@sudhakarbhat6396 everything to English, according to Steve. Indian team even missing half of their regulars in Test team doesn’t deserve any positives from this series, as Steve was saying even after losing 4-1 England have so many postive performances (that hyd test was a fluke win for England, Indian players atleast 6-7 off them got out to rang long hops)
England can't play normal😀😂 ball but according to Steve they can play bazzball in india 😀
@@SUBASHKUMAR-wz8zx that too has failed now
@@sudhakarbhat6396 Yes 😀
How the he!! India managed to lose the first Test! It has to be the biggest mystery of this winter. 4-1 scoreline is actually flattering for this English team.
Lazy batting by India in the first innings of the first test. A few threw away their wickets. Loss margin was only 28.
Don’t know what harmy is saying. Root should have played his style the whole series. He flourished when he did it. BAZ BALL is sense less
Tbf not bowling 20 overs an innings also probably helped
I wonder what Harmission keeps writing. Is he taking transcripts by shorthand???
Bazball is proving to be the resort of less skilled test match players..
England had too many passengers; Bairstow & Anderson selfishly chased personal milestones; reality is they are past it and should retire. For all the romantic nonsense about Foakes keeping, his batting is simply not good enough. Pope, Crawley & Duckett had their moments but lack consistency and a ruthlessness. Wood is a one trick pony whilst Ollie Robinson is a pathetic excuse of an international cricketer
You forget Stokes. His number of runs this series is the lowest amongst the specialist batters in England. Pope does not have the consistency or temperament to make it long in the Test format. Crawley will grind it out, he has the chops for it. Anderson will retire this year and Bairstow should be moved on.
@@swazzz1Stokes took a wicket so he is an all-rounder 😂
One way to look at it but same thing was being said about Ashwin n VK not very long ago... Champion players find a way out of a difficult situation, and during such massive series losses personal milestones can really help....
Bairstow and Anderson didn't select the team, it seams to be old pals act. They must now get young guys in and look for another coach it was very embarrassing
some statements from eng team after 1st test.
Anderson: we are up for chasing 600
Anderson: we are going to chase down 400 in 70 overs
DUCKETT: india is so scared they don't know what target to set
Duckett: more india put up as target the merrier it is.
Lol can't score 450+ on a flat track in 2 innings combined. Thanks duckett 🤡🤡🤡 for your insightful comments
You are on fire comments wise😄
Either bravado or stupidity
If an asian country batted like this. .. throwing wkts away .. the local media will start looking at fixing. Here they call it bazzball
😂😂😂 very true bro
Baseball does not work in India and lost very badly.
Bro anderson was confident of chasing 600 or some 1000 runs in 4th innings but they forgot the art of batting long enough to walk the talk 😀
I am not sure if I agree with Alex's statement that Biarstow had the right mindset. Test match is a test of your character, defense and changing your approach as per the demand. Unfortunately apart from Crawley and Root, no one looked comfortable
We Indians are Forever grateful to Duckett , for inspiring our batsman 😁
Lol
The greatest series loss by England
Proud of the boys
- English media
A historic win with so many debuts 🎉 India hits 72 6s to 29 by Eng/Bazball throughout... 4-1 with an innings win and a 400 run win looks apt for a superior side 🎉
DJ at Dharmshala is a ⭐ ... St. Anger for Stokes, Westlife for Hartley was gold 😂
Stokes was awful with the bat throughout as was Bairstow. Pope declined fast too. Good milestone for Jimmy but a quiet series. Bashir took wickets but very expensive runs wise too.
They should have had more holidays in Abu Dhabi during the series to get used to Indian conditions 😂
They can only bazball on flat placid pitches
And bowler like shahin afridi and co😂😂😂
England lost 3rd test by 434 runs and according to self proclaimed legend harmison they were in game
tbh I think England were ahead at the end of day 2. It's the 3rd and 4th day that India completely dominated and won the match.
Even there expert don't understand the Indian conditions...In India the new ball is not troublesome in the 1st and 2nd innings but old ball...New ball is only troublesome in the 3rd and 4th innings in India as there is turn with bounce of new ball...See for yourself England's second innings 1st wicket partnerships...Most of your players don't have a defensive technique for these conditions 🙃🙃
The difference between great teams and mediocre teams lies in the ability to do the basics right, even in challenging situations. Mediocre teams unravel at the slightest hint of a challenge. That is what England has been largely, and no amount of verbosity by the experts can convince the larger public otherwise.
It's neither Kuldeep nor a Googly. The ball by Ashwin, an under cutter that have the same direction of revolutions like an off-spin.
It's a carbon-copy of Shaun Marsh defending for spin and getting bowled!
Did i watch the same test series that they are discussing?
How delusional are these people? Where do they get such experts from..... If you can call them experts, that is.. 😂😂😂
Andrew Mackenna: Stokes got bowled by Ashwin not by Kuldeep googly, 5.58 in the timeline..guys pls correct it
They must have been drowning their grief in Indian malts …. Can’t blame them
I have seen some of the video's on this channel I see that Steve Harmison acts as if he is not part of the discussion. Either he is writing something or on the cell phone. It is an insult to the other two people in the discussion.
It's a radio podcast. They care less about the video format. Nothing unusual.
England were 💩 for 4 out of 5 games not sure what they should be proud off! They grow a pair to admit they lost to an India without Kohli, Shami, KL, Rishab, Jadeja for a game and hardly fit to his standards and Ashwin missed a critical bowling innings!
Also the only win was a rabbit out of a hat
This series is a testament to the fact that you cannot bat a specific way/style. You have to adapt according to situation. Reality is none of the English batsman except root do not trust their defensive shots and tend to play release shots early. This English side was definitely more competitive than the 2016 and 2021 but you can't help but think they should have won atleast another test match.
Please don't criticise Bairstow, he was on batting practice for IPL😅😅
😀
6:04 beaten by Ashwin not Kuldeep, at least learn their names that’s like your only job
As we’ve seen over the past few weeks, they’re not a particularly bright bunch.
*England playing Bazball hit 29 Sixes, India playing its usual low risk brand of Test Cricket hit 72 sixes* Bazball is risk without responsibility and without self introspection on mistakes committed'
Stokes is excited to play against WI, SL at home? What a loser. 😂😂
Cheer up Harmy, our only spin vet Jack got injured in Test 1. We found 3 fine young spin bats, & Hartley will be better than G.Swann. Root came out of his rut. Jimmy became a 700 Legend. Foakes finally cemented the WK job. No one defeats India in India.
Minor little things ?
What positive can you take from a 4-1 drubbing? If England continue to live in denial, and do not re-strategise, I think they will end up as a footnote in Test history. Their current position on the WTC table is a fair reflection of their game. Stokes and Macullum and the British media may keep parroting about the positive approach and the positives from the series, I don't think the discerning British cricket fan is buying it. If you listen to the British media you would think that India won by the skin of their teeth, and it was England which emerged with the honours in moral victory terms.
I honestly think it never mattered who won, absolutely fantastic from both sides! Proper CRICKET! Should do this or that, they never went there to lose, leave them to do what they think best! Thank you England and India!
“Boys played well.”
- English commentators, probably.
Foakes’ stock as keeper/batter will take a big hit after this. Some will no doubt say that he should have been offered more support from our specialist batters. But that alternative, especially under McCullum and Stokes, tends to obviate the need for lower order runs. Stokes & McCullum need to assume responsibility and own this. We need an apology. The scratch bowling unit need an apology. Zac Crawley aside, the batting has been a massive flop. Well done India.
What a moral victory for England
It's the most satisfying 4-1 just because of the loud mouth that few England players were about beating India...See who is laughing at the end...
But that’s how the team knows how to play. In this Stokes - McCullum era the only way they have played was always being aggressive. This means they don’t play defence at all, oh wait a min they don’t know how to play defence atleast the top order. If they play that they get out. These players were poor at defence before this era as well. It’s just that this partnership made them the players they are now. How can you expect them to change? The thing was it took some time for teams to understand how to tackle it and once they did the batting didn’t become that difficult to tackle for the bowlers.
Being positive doesn't mean playing t20 style. I think they should have tried to learn what real positive approach is from Indian youngsters batsmen. Irony is they were using it right in front of them, and they still couldn't learn.
England should have played a younger bowler . They allowed Anderson for milestone at the cost of winning.
They don't have young fast bowler or you can say lack of fast bowlers that's why they are bound to play Anderson
U, England, disappointed me, I thought we will see some tough cricket, but after first test, my wishes vanished
Steve's comments are a testimony to his away record..
What the panel seems to suggest is that, the English side created many opportunities by playing the way they played and somehow lost this series 4-1 as an unanticipated side effect. Just change your approach a little bit, and England could have won this series and upset Indians!!! Wow... extreme hubris from the English experts. In my opinion, winning the one match was the unanticipated side effect and in reality, the visitors were doomed to fail. This certainly should be a wake up call.
You cant come to india with bowlers who have played 2-3 tests.
It's the English batsmen that failed. Bowling was ok given spin bowling stoci
To summarise the series, India played bazball and England played T20.
However, don't worry England fans - remember the two main points:
1) Umpire's call decisions should be abolished if they go against England.
2) At least the England players can get an extra two days on the golf course!
Why do they always leave Jimmy stranded, desperately looking for his first Test Century?
Loses 9/10 sessions... Harrmy... England was in it... More deluded than the football fans
Morally England won in the bazball world.
It is a mediocre team, period. This PR from English media needs to stop otherwise there is no path towards the improvement.
It is good to encourage the rookie spinners of England by praising them. But one should also be realistic. Such spinners will always take wickets on rank turners, but whenever the wickets have been sporting, they get found out. Good spinners can trouble even in good sporting wickets. My point is limited - by all means encourage your spinners, but do not let them go away with the feeling that they are world beaters, or even world class. By overdoing the praise bit, they may feel that they have arrived, and not work to improve their skills.
Absolutely horrible performances by senior players especially Root Stokes Anderson Foakes Robinson Wood and most of all Bairstow was pathetic!!
Stokes got out to Ashwin not Kuldeep.
The time has come for England to outsource the players from India etc just like IT
You guys are so delusional... No way england needs to be proud... 3 test matches theh were on top lost on day 3... What is there to be proud of... Idk .. in india even when we win we find some fault to criticize... U guys wow simply wow
I can’t believe what saying is saying . India should have one the first test too . Only that the batsmen had brain fade during second innings is all .
No disrespect to Jimmy but I feel it’s time for him to be selfless and make way for youngsters. He got 5 wickets in second test and then 5 in the next 3. While Bumrah got 17 in 4 tests.
I feel he is unplayable in seaming and cloudy conditions but very ordinary in other conditions.
India are a far better team and worthy winners, however some schoolboy errors by the batsmen, Pope being stumped in the over before lunch is one example, there were plenty of others
Correction : Stokes was out to Ashwin googly😂
Keep going on about Jimmy hes been brilliant over the year's but bottom line hes too old and is taking the place of a younger man who should be gaining experience . That said the problem has not been the bowlers its been the crap batting. Too many under performers believeing the hype round bazball ! Then justifying there play . India have been far superior with to be honest only half there best side !
You've been hoodwinked by bazball. Time to end the bullshit. Let there own country sort them selves out. It's embarrassing.
England should not play Test cricket. It is not their cup of tea. People need to see grit , resilience and mix of other skills not t20 like game in Test.
Bazzball buried in the Himalayas
I'm surprised the Indians won the series, as the Poms had far better spinners... "doctors" that is!
The English cricket team and pundits are the definition of 'STUPID'
Thanks buckett for inspiring jaiswal to score 700 runs by humself scoring 300 runs in the series
Not gonna lie bazball is good to watch but the suck up around it is just .....
Dont get me wrong England are a bang average team in red ball who could win one in 5-6 test matches but comparing them to India and Australia and New Zealand is just ridiculous they need to consistently win matches in order to make their mark in red ball just playing flashing shots and commentators sucking off every single time they get a chance cannot continue for too long
England has done nothing except beat minnows like Pakistan and drub teams at home. Highly overrated and Indian gave them a reality check .
4-1 miserable by England
Harmi smoked some bad stuff it seems
Its a series England won’t forget for couple of decades..
This team is over hyped and over rated… Exposed finally… Beautiful words can’t hide the shameful defeat….
It's absolutely hilarious and disorienting equally when the former England players say they can be proud of the way england have played. Dude a guy on debut didn't perform two tests and he is out ..thats the standard we set in india.. and you have a captain who couldn't hold his bat against spin and u guys hail him as the best ever and go insanely praising him for getting a wkt.. imagine an Indian player playing 10 innings as a batsman and averaging 20 .. and that's your skipper.. shame on the English cricket fraternity to not even raise .. in india a skipper with this sort of series who couldn't inspire any confidence and he just gets bowled man for fun ..would have resigned by now or would have been 5 hours he had been sacked from the team .. no wonder u guys are at the bottom of WTC table .. keep hailing a team who couldn't win a home series against aus , couldn't win in NZ , couldn't even put up a fight in india in the WC . Keep winning against pak on highways .. have your standards so abnormally low and no wonder england could win a wc on boundary County In all these years .. hang on moral victory for bazball for the skipper taking one wicket..
You should sack Harmison that guy is an absolute joke, he can’t analyse. His comments are not truthful
Be yourselves! They picked you on merit, not bazball. Go back to that basic! Id fault india on extending the batting in the morning needlessly. Anderson is a legend but why give him a chance to get 700 on indian soil and bashir to get a five fer? We need to kill ambitions, make them psychologically more desperate rather than give then celebration points and take away the focus away from India's excellent achievement. No jealousy here. Doff my cap to jimmy, but we need to go for the jugular, develop the brutal killer instinct. Give no quarter.
Ben stokes is clearly worst player of this series 😀no one came close to him, Bro played invisible cricket
Learn to be humble
Ben Stokes and co such bad players of spin 😅
Bunch of arrogant people
Steve is cooking something. Let him cook guys and enjoy the process.
Comedy gold. English cricket is fucked.
Why is India rubbish at every sport?
In this series 4 indian batsmen scored 7 100s in between them including 2 doubles of YJ, The Indian middle order have 4 80 + scores yet the English media glorifies how good the 3 English centrues were and how good Zak Crawley batted. How well Joe Root bowled, and wowing Jimmy's 700... the English really need to come back to Earth. India literally fucked up some royal asses.😂 try getting real for once.