The only real knock I've had on Riley was the fact that he was handed a conference championship program, and his teams appeared to decline the further the program moved away from the Stoops era. I feel like that gets ignored a lot when discussing him. He's still young, though, and that's why I was so excited to see him go to USC. If he gets them back to Caroll or McKay era success, then i'll have him right up there at the top.
Lifelong OU fan here. Can't speak for the whole fan base but for me it wasn't that he left OU it was how he left. If the USC job is a better fit for him and his family so be it. But sneaking off in the middle of the night, taking recruits, and recruiting on OU's dime? Kind of sketchy.
ironically Brock Vandergriff was his first choice. When brick decommitted and went to GA, LR scrambled to get Caleb Williams. The only QB he recruited that was his #1 choice was Spencer Rattler. Food for thought.
Josh, I am a USC alum and think your take is pretty much spot on. I think LR has already been making changes. I think our differences stem from you being HQ'd in Nashville with a national view and I know So. Calif. and intimately see what is happening with Trojans football. I really don't know about other teams. That said, 2 things about last year. 1) Helton and staff were extremely lazy and had ruined relationships with pretty much every good HS in the area (Mater Dei, St. John Bosco, etc.). 2) Helton was known to run VERY easy practices without little to no consequences for practicing poorly. 3) Because of items 1 and 2, the Trojans didn't have talent and weren't tough. 4) Reilly only had time to fix so much. He made the decision to get the offense as good as possible and use any available time to build the D. SC's defense played reasonably well early on until injuries piled up. By the last 2 games, the Trojans D was banged up and degraded. 4) This year LR has made the D his primary focus and brought in very good talent. 5) As any really good coach does, the first year's team's rules & policies were stronger than the previous regime's but this year's is much tougher. Reilly is plainly ratcheting up the toughness. 6) Next year will really see a jump in recruiting because of the team playing better and also the repairs that LR & staff are performing.
Riley was trying to recruit players to USC while he was still Coach at Oklahoma. Months before he quit OU. He was caught red handed. He should be suspended from coaching for at least a few years for this. Any other coach would be, why does he get special treatment? Is he a good coach? Yes. But he is also clearly a snake
He’s still under 40 years old. He’s an incredibly intelligent guy, if you think he’s a finished product at this point you’re smoking funny stuff. He will figure out the defense and he will go on an incredible run. Can’t wait
@@TrojansFirst That's not even a decent comparison. Saban brought Michigan State back to respectability after decades of mediocrity. Lincoln took over a well oil machine at OU. And now he's taking over USC at the time of NIL and the portal.
Texas fan here and I think he is a good offensive coach, head coach not very good. As a person he I thinks you can trust him as far as you can throw him. He is a snake with the way he did the Sooners. I would never send my son to him to play. If he called me to work on his air conditioner at his house I would turn down the job. I would think more of Lincoln if he would do something about Caleb Williams antics of painting foul language on his finer nails. No kid pulling that type of crap would ever play for me. Can't believe the coach or the NCAA does nothing about this.
@@adambradford1530 True he was not my pick. That being said also ironic that Riley was a born and raised Texan that played at Texas Tech.....LOL! I think there is a Texas theme here. Also ironic how OK is one of Texas biggest rivalry and my felling on how dirty Riley did OK.
@@kevinr5187 If I were an Oklahoma fan, I would absolutely be pissed at Riley for how he left. But that's just the world of college sports right now. He had a very small window of time to make his decision, and he made it. That being said, they really need to stop spamming the comments of USC social media posts about completely unrelated things telling everyone how terrible Riley is.
I disagree with Josh about Lincoln making 3 CFPs as a sign of how good he is. Riley purposefully will only coach in a weak conference where he out recruits talent by a mile against his competition. Why do you think he turned down the LSU job to go to the Pac12? Wonder if he will leave before USC goes to the Big10.
I don’t think Riley will figure out defense. Good defense requires a mental toughness from the head coach that Riley just simply doesn’t have. It’s personality thing that isn’t so easy to change.
@@fayjohnson4068 Alex Grinch is a good DC. Great? No. But he's decent. A football team's personality mirrors that of the head coach. A soft HC gets you a soft team. Period.
He trusts Grinch implicitly and if Grinch steals Christmas again and Riley declines to even discuss making a change then detractors will get what they want, after this contract runs. No buy outs at this level and he better figure out the "D"
Great offensive coordinator Above average head coach He'll never win anything that actually matters with that craptastic defensive he consistently rolls out.
TBOW took over for a legend, and then every single year, put a less good team on the field, than the year before. TBOW is basically Jimbo Fischer, with a slightly less Southern accent.
He will be always be compared to Pete Carrol at SC. Anyone who doesn’t like or respect Carroll is trolling that guy was historic on results and developed a tough culture . Those were physical teams plus how many NFL players
@@brianvuong97 don't worry, USuCk fan, you're the ones coping right now after those Utah and Tulane ass kickings. That's the reality of TBOW. Lights out offensive schemes with wet paper strength personnel. We'll see how that pans out this year with Oregan and Washington back on the schedule.
People tend to think that "overrated" means not perfect. The best is the Franklin argument. Overrated? Who rated him too high? He's an overachiever. Riley is exactly what he is, and he's good at what he does.
Winning matters, you could be a class act but if you can't win you get axed. Plenty of coaches have done less than respectable things, but they won so we know them.
Lincoln Riley is a phenomenal coach. I do miss him at OU. Every Air Raid coach fails on defense. Mike Leach, Hal Mumme, Dana Holgreson, Lincoln Riley, When u score so quickly its tough on defenses. You must run the ball and have success vs Alabama Georgia. LR killed Georgia in the Rose Bowl first 1/2. LR is not good at adjustments vs top teams. At USC LR thought he coupd get the Defense with easier talent to recruit in SoCal with a massive of talent. Alex Grinch failed at OU and is Failing at USC. Alex Grinch was a Mike Leach guy along with the rest of his staff. Dennis Simmons, Bennie Wyle etc. He needs to go get a NFL minded defense coordinator…Grinch is a great secondary coach but not a coordinator….
Josh Josh Josh, it’s not that we don’t like him, we just don’t respect him because of HOW he handled his last year at OU and his subsequent migration to USC. Stoops handed him a top tier program and he burned down the barn on his way out. Eventually history will repeat itself just wait…..
Lincoln Riley is the best offensive mind in the country and if any QB is looking to make it to the NFL Lincoln is the guy. Saban even told Jalen to pick OU when he was transferring because he knew Riley would get him to the league by developing him as a passer. Dude has gotten almost every starting quarterback he’s had to the league other than Rattler
And Rattler was his very first highschool pick up and project that wasn't an experienced transfer. That failed miserably. Williams is just a generational talent. USC loses 6 games last season with any other QB. And it's starting to look like Nelson isn't what everyone thought he was. And that's right when they're stepping into the BIG 10. Riley better learn how to get physical REAL QUICK. It's flat out embarrassing that guy lead a top 3 Blue Blood program and just gets pushed around by everybody. Just wait until you have to deal with 5 years worth of constant shootouts, Riley gonna stress y'all the hell out. You will never feel like you control the game no matter how many points you're up. He leads the nation in letting teams come back and beat him.
The problem with this theory is that Jalen did not throw much at OU and mainly ran the ball. Sure, he made a living on the 7-12 in and out routs, but other than that, he was a running QB. Lincoln did not know what to do with him. I would even say that Jalen had the skills all along and that Lincoln did not develop him, his dad and the NFL did.
The Oklahoma program was slowly but surely degrading under his leadership. He also did not take responsibility for his lack of defense at Oklahoma. He blamed the University of Oklahoma for the inability to acquire defensive talent. He blames the players.
LR is a West Texas Spread offense guy, score 50-60 points a game and hope the clock runs out on the opposing team. He puts all his efforts at recruiting the best QBs and WRs in the nation, and he doesn't give a damn about defense. That was good enough to win the Big 12 and might be enough to win the PAC 12 which he has yet to do, but it won't win a Big 10 title and it won't win a playoff game against the an SEC team.
I understand people being salty about how he left Oklahoma, and he himself has said he regrets how he left. But regardless, his win record speaks for itself. He is elite. He created elite teams and elite players. He is one of the best (top 10) coaches in the country
What's not to like about Lincoln Riley? He's a humble and classy head coach. He's not cocky like a Dan Lanning. Lanning lit up a cigar and smoked in front of a camara to celebrate a top 5 class.. Talk about arrogant. Imagine Riley doing that? Exactly! Riley is too classy to do something sophomoric like that.
Ducks are living rent-free in so many Trojan minds these days. If you really think Dan Lanning is arrogant, you haven’t watched any of his press conferences nor videos that show the culture he’s building at Oregon. The cigar video was celebratory because hardly anyone thought Oregon would have had as successful of a signing day as they did, especially factoring in the Dante Moore flip to UCLA.
I will say I 💯 agree its a culture problem. I watched him for 6 years almost at Oklahoma and i always questioned his culture because there never seemed to be much of one. Physicality is definitely missing from his culture. He can preach it but if he himself isnt naturally physical it doesn't work, players dont believe it. Thats why his teams get worked over by the Utahs and Kansas States of the world and then gets absolutely curbstomped by huge physical SEC teams. His players literally just bounce off them. His S&C program and philosophy HAS to change completely if he wishes to go toe to toe with the SEC. But then again he never played college football, leach had to convince him to give it up and coach. His brother.....got the worst beat down in Bowl Game history.....same problem. If they had it their way the entire game would change to 7 on 7.
Looking back at how horrendous USC's defense was last year and despite this deficiency were still a top 5 team, if USC has even a top 50 defense this year, they will be in the CFP and likely the NC game. Teams will need to drop 50+ points against USC to beat them.
As a long time Sooner fan, I’m glad Lincoln left. He didn’t fit the culture at OU, never did. Other than his win in Columbus, he didn’t do anything at OU, if we are all honest with ourselves. Not only that, but he left at the most inopportune time, and caused a bunch of players to transfer. Which makes OU fans dislike him even more.
@@greg7964 Most coaches don't gut their roster on the way out, and naming Colorado isn't helping your case, as he did the same thing. Most coaches have integrity. It's only a handful of weasels like TBOW and Prime.
Oklahoma waited for years under Riley and Grinch to see a decent defense and it never materialized. It was always the old Texas Tech mentality of let’s just try to out score our opponents and hope our defense can get a stop or two. Good lick with that. Just like with Venables, everyone says prove it then we’ll believe. Which coach has won more NC’s??? What I thought. 😂😂😂😂
Mayfield was a walk on who he helped become the #1 pick in the draft. We all see Baker ain’t that guy lol. Murray saw that and said yeah I wanna play for him. Hurts went to OU because he couldn’t cut it at Bama and became a better player under LR. When you have success players want to play for you lol simple
He had his chance to impress me against UGA. He failed especially in the o/t. Being a UGA fan I wanted to feel as if we had beaten a top 3 team. Beating Baker was more satisfying than beating Riley.
Lucky to do it too! And everyone knows that year you played an OU where Riley couldn't fix the gawd damn defense! You played a team with only an offense! Otherwise OU wins going away.
He's a solid coach who has to have the right QB for his system to work (see Spencer Rattler). He needs to get a better defense to win a NC, I don't know if Grinch is the right guy.
USC will not figure out their defense. What will happen is the pac 12 will figure out how to defend USC's offense. Just like coach Aranda and coach Campbell did.
I think Lincoln Riley is this generation's Steve Spurrier. I think he'll eventually win a national championship but not win as many titles as you would hope if your a USC fan.
@@JDinero7023....he's been curbstomped 4 times in a row at TWO different Blue Blood programs while having THREE different Heisman winners.....that's should be impossible. He might finally win one but he ain't winning 3 or more lol.
Easily a top 5 coach in the game today. Once he gets a good DC USC will win Nattys. They really have a shot this year just gotta navigate through a rough 2nd half of the schedule.
@@fayjohnson4068 About 10 seconds after finding out he had to coach against SEC teams. He won't stay in the Big 10, and if he does, he will schedule nothing but barber colleges and nunneries for the nonconference games.
@@Tijuanabill he ain’t going nowhere bud not anytime soon. Lol hell win a Natty it 2 at USC. He was more worried about the lack of support from administration and going to LA than the SEC. It’s a overrated conference that caters to making they’re teams look better than they really are. And USC doesn’t schedule Div2 opponents unlike the SEC and Oklahoma. SC probably ha the hardest schedule in 2024 for all contenders.
@@fayjohnson4068 Oklahoma has literally never scheduled a D2 team, except when other teams canceled on us. If TBOW wasn't getting support from the admins, how is it BV was able to come in and recruit the best OU class of all time, in his first year? TBOW likes excuses, and they rarely make any sense at all. USC is a contender for the PAC, at best. If you think your defense is solved, and that you are going to break turnover ratio records every year, you are a bigger fool than your DC, because even he doesn't believe that. A typical TBOW defense is NOT going to win the PAC this year, with Oregon on the rise.
@@InfectiousBliss Guy found out and then peed a little and ran to the worst conference in football. Believe what you want. Everyone already knows the truth
I know there’s nothing to do in Norman but tip over cows and comment on USC content… but it might be time to GET A LIFE. If you really are happy he’s gone then act like it. USC fans have spent ZERO time commenting on Georgia Southern boards about Clay Helton… why is that?
Take away NIL and the portal and it would take him a few years to rebuild USC. Also, Caleb probably stays at OU because he would have had to sit out a year, and Jordan Addison probably stays at Pitt rather than transfer. But in today's college football, I think Riley will thrive at USC.
Lincoln Riley is the best coach in college football and it's not even close. He also has the nicest house and the best work/life balance outside of football.
The sad thing is, you really believe that shit. I have no doubt that you do. Saban is the GOAT, let alone the best right now. Period. (I'm not even a Bama fan; these are just facts.)
Yeahhhh Josh you are dead wrong Lincoln Riley is maybe a top-25 head coach and this season so far has really shown. He can't get defense right and lacks physicality and balance. His offense has regressed, and his program and recruiting has weakened since coaching at the stable Oklahoma. He blantaly lied to his player and program and is overall soft with dealing with the media and reality.
Classic YT show content......creating a story out of nothing. Josh found one of the three Trojan fans that follow that team to bristle from a simple question about their coach. I dont have any strong feelings about LR myself (as an SEC fan), I have been impressed with his journey from East Carolina up through the ranks of college coaches through Oklahoma and now USC. I think his exit from Okla was handled with little grace, but he will stand or fall as the fortunes go with the new Big 10 presence.
I would like to see Lincoln actually have to coach. He is in fact over-rated. Put him in a program like Kansas or Stanford and see if it really is him. He is just running the same schemes that most high schools use today. He has been handed top offensive talent since he started as the head of Oklahoma. When he actually had to develop a player like Spencer Rattler, he bailed on him and it showed. Same with Caleb Williams first year at Oklahoma. Caleb and the surrounding roster won those games at Texas for example. The rest of the big 12 figured out how to stop his schemes. Look what Kansas, Iowa State and Kansas State did to his offense his last two years at Oklahoma.
I don’t believe his coaching is in doubt. It’s his morals and ethics that are ROCK BOTTOM. He is a snake in the grass who is good at coaching football (offense).
I don't know the guy so I can't really give you an opinion on him as a person but as a coach, I could care less about him. I'm a Michigan fan so I just see him as a good opponent for my school. I'd rank him around 5 or 6 though.
Ok, so you have Riley haters and lovers. You also have Venables haters and lovers. So let’s take this one step further. Probably been asked before. But here goes. What ever conference they are in doesn’t matter with this question. Who wins a national championship first? Riley or Venables ??
He has been and continues to be a top-tier football coach. And, as a young coach, he is evolving. He has restored the Trojan tradition of winning. And the best is yet to come. Now, how long can we keep him from the NFL? ✌️
Evolving? Lol nothing has changed. He's still recruiting and coaching the exact same way as he did at Oklahoma. He said he could never get a top 5 class at Oklahoma, Venables comes in immediately after and gets the #4 class. He was the problem at Oklahoma, not Oklahoma themselves.
How many national titles has he won ? None and he never will win a National Title. His record doesn’t matter because he coached in the big 12 which is a weak conference !!!
I think he's a great offensive mind but as for leaving Oklahoma and his players the way he did was sketchy at best and the defense is terrible and if he doesn't fix that part he may do the same to SC excpecialy going to the Big 10 good luck against Penn State Ohio State Michigan and the list continues love the show Josh by the way I am a faithful Oklahoma fan
1 kirby smart 2 nick saban 3 ryan day 4 dabo swinney 5 bryan kelley 6 jim harbaugh 7 lincoln riley 8 brent venables (its more of a future prediction) 9 luke fickel 10 josh heupel once we see lincoln in 2024 we will get a better picture of how good he is. malachie nelson doesnt seem SUPER EXTREMELY GIFTED like caleb was. he will actually take time to develop and if lincoln does that, then he has my full respect on the offensive side. he needs to do better at hiring staff/firing the grinch who stole christmas.
Dude is a snake. Bob Stoops went out and hired him from nowhere America, made him into a superstar and then gutted the entire program because he didn't like the SEC news. It wasnt even that he left that upset me. It was the fact he had one of his best teams his last year and completely waisted that year and team because his mind was in the clouds. Demarco Murray had to force him to talk to the team cuz he wasn't even gonna do that. He'll bail on USC too. He ain't competing against multiple other Blue Blood programs, Penn State and a conference full of Utah's. He didn't even have to compete against a good Texas team at OU.
@@melrozecalled what bluff? You sure they weren't just calling him out for being a bi*ch about the SEC news? Would you trust Lincoln Riley in the SEC after watching those 4 Playoff games?
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The only real knock I've had on Riley was the fact that he was handed a conference championship program, and his teams appeared to decline the further the program moved away from the Stoops era. I feel like that gets ignored a lot when discussing him. He's still young, though, and that's why I was so excited to see him go to USC. If he gets them back to Caroll or McKay era success, then i'll have him right up there at the top.
Lifelong OU fan here. Can't speak for the whole fan base but for me it wasn't that he left OU it was how he left. If the USC job is a better fit for him and his family so be it. But sneaking off in the middle of the night, taking recruits, and recruiting on OU's dime? Kind of sketchy.
ironically Brock Vandergriff was his first choice. When brick decommitted and went to GA, LR scrambled to get Caleb Williams. The only QB he recruited that was his #1 choice was Spencer Rattler. Food for thought.
Don’t like or dislike, never won a CFB game so far. Took over a winning team at Okla. Appears to be a good OC, defense that’s TBD!
Josh, I am a USC alum and think your take is pretty much spot on. I think LR has already been making changes. I think our differences stem from you being HQ'd in Nashville with a national view and I know So. Calif. and intimately see what is happening with Trojans football. I really don't know about other teams. That said, 2 things about last year. 1) Helton and staff were extremely lazy and had ruined relationships with pretty much every good HS in the area (Mater Dei, St. John Bosco, etc.). 2) Helton was known to run VERY easy practices without little to no consequences for practicing poorly. 3) Because of items 1 and 2, the Trojans didn't have talent and weren't tough. 4) Reilly only had time to fix so much. He made the decision to get the offense as good as possible and use any available time to build the D. SC's defense played reasonably well early on until injuries piled up. By the last 2 games, the Trojans D was banged up and degraded. 4) This year LR has made the D his primary focus and brought in very good talent. 5) As any really good coach does, the first year's team's rules & policies were stronger than the previous regime's but this year's is much tougher. Reilly is plainly ratcheting up the toughness. 6) Next year will really see a jump in recruiting because of the team playing better and also the repairs that LR & staff are performing.
Riley was trying to recruit players to USC while he was still Coach at Oklahoma. Months before he quit OU. He was caught red handed. He should be suspended from coaching for at least a few years for this. Any other coach would be, why does he get special treatment? Is he a good coach? Yes. But he is also clearly a snake
As a Bama fan, I'm thankful to LR for what he did to help JH
Successfully coached Heisman winners in weak defensive conferences. Even given that, he is a great offensive mind.
He’s still under 40 years old. He’s an incredibly intelligent guy, if you think he’s a finished product at this point you’re smoking funny stuff. He will figure out the defense and he will go on an incredible run. Can’t wait
Yeah I can see him and Kirby having multiple National Championship battles in the near future like Saban and Dabo had.
Lincoln has done more than Saben as an under 40 head coach. Saben wasn't close to Riley at the same stage.
Riley solved the defense with his 2023 USC squad. Everything is in place to win an NC.
@@TrojansFirst That's not even a decent comparison. Saban brought Michigan State back to respectability after decades of mediocrity. Lincoln took over a well oil machine at OU. And now he's taking over USC at the time of NIL and the portal.
@@melroze He rebuilt a USC program in shambles.. They were 4-8 with very little talent on defense.
Texas fan here and I think he is a good offensive coach, head coach not very good. As a person he I thinks you can trust him as far as you can throw him. He is a snake with the way he did the Sooners. I would never send my son to him to play. If he called me to work on his air conditioner at his house I would turn down the job.
I would think more of Lincoln if he would do something about Caleb Williams antics of painting foul language on his finer nails.
No kid pulling that type of crap would ever play for me. Can't believe the coach or the NCAA does nothing about this.
Kinda ironic for you to say given who Texas's head coach is
@@adambradford1530 True he was not my pick. That being said also ironic that Riley was a born and raised Texan that played at Texas Tech.....LOL! I think there is a Texas theme here.
Also ironic how OK is one of Texas biggest rivalry and my felling on how dirty Riley did OK.
@@kevinr5187 If I were an Oklahoma fan, I would absolutely be pissed at Riley for how he left. But that's just the world of college sports right now. He had a very small window of time to make his decision, and he made it.
That being said, they really need to stop spamming the comments of USC social media posts about completely unrelated things telling everyone how terrible Riley is.
Lincoln Riley is a good head coach USC should be thankful he arrived at SC he just needs to find a good DC.
I disagree with Josh about Lincoln making 3 CFPs as a sign of how good he is. Riley purposefully will only coach in a weak conference where he out recruits talent by a mile against his competition. Why do you think he turned down the LSU job to go to the Pac12? Wonder if he will leave before USC goes to the Big10.
Bruh cope harder. LR is bringing a natty to SoCal
@@SinIsWack101hilariously delusional bubba. Riley won’t even be your HC within 3 years. Mark it
He is probably headed for the ACC after this year.
I don’t think Riley will figure out defense. Good defense requires a mental toughness from the head coach that Riley just simply doesn’t have. It’s personality thing that isn’t so easy to change.
Hiring a good DC would do wonders for LR. He doesn’t need a dominant defense just a good one.
@@fayjohnson4068agreed
@@fayjohnson4068 Alex Grinch is a good DC. Great? No. But he's decent. A football team's personality mirrors that of the head coach. A soft HC gets you a soft team. Period.
He trusts Grinch implicitly and if Grinch steals Christmas again and Riley declines to even discuss making a change then detractors will get what they want, after this contract runs. No buy outs at this level and he better figure out the "D"
@@SDRBass Grinch is a below average DC
As an Oklahoma fan, I just hope PAC QB's and Offenses are prolific as all the pundits are predicting. Everything else will work itself out. Go Utes.
6-7 go Texas
SEC good luck bro best season in the next ten years is a 9 win season.. GO SEC
Great offensive coordinator
Above average head coach
He'll never win anything that actually matters with that craptastic defensive he consistently rolls out.
TBOW took over for a legend, and then every single year, put a less good team on the field, than the year before. TBOW is basically Jimbo Fischer, with a slightly less Southern accent.
As an OU fan I don’t need to justify calling him overrated. USC thinks he’ll bring them a natty, he will never even get there. Period
And you think BV will lol
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He will be always be compared to Pete Carrol at SC. Anyone who doesn’t like or respect Carroll is trolling that guy was historic on results and developed a tough culture . Those were physical teams plus how many NFL players
Correct but the word "overrated" is not being used properly. Everyone knows his defense is bad. Nobody thinks it's not.
@@CowboyRibeyePlenty of people heap exaggerated praise on Riley. Until he figures out the defense you can't just assume he will put it together.
@@Music-vr7sz they praise his offense. They shit in his defense. That's why he's not overrated. He's rated properly. He is what he is.
Arguably the biggest cheater in the history of the sport but yeah...I guess that other stuff?
Dude didn’t do a thing with his 2019 recruiting class. He sucks when he doesn’t have a QB that can play backyard ball. Dude is all hat and no cattle.
read the first 4 letters of your username pls
@@brianvuong97 don't worry, USuCk fan, you're the ones coping right now after those Utah and Tulane ass kickings. That's the reality of TBOW. Lights out offensive schemes with wet paper strength personnel. We'll see how that pans out this year with Oregan and Washington back on the schedule.
Lincoln Riley scarred of the SEC
People tend to think that "overrated" means not perfect. The best is the Franklin argument. Overrated? Who rated him too high? He's an overachiever. Riley is exactly what he is, and he's good at what he does.
Character matters. What goes around comes around, regardless of talent or skill.
He has great character so I expect big things!
Winning matters, you could be a class act but if you can't win you get axed. Plenty of coaches have done less than respectable things, but they won so we know them.
He’s a great person getting a new job doesn’t mean you have a bad character
@@cityboydanny1758the way he left was 100% bad.
He has resurrected the USC brand, that was absolutely DEAD!!! Thank God LR is the head coach of USC TROJANS!
Just watch out cause as soon as he gets an offer for more money, he’s gone.
@@hornsdown8796if a company offered to double your salary, you would be gone to😂
@@hornsdown8796 USC is LR dream job!!!
@@52mrbryant LMFAO 😂 y’all smoking crack out in Cali man USC is garbage and LR will be gone within 3 years. MARK IT
😂😂😂😂 thank God his soft ass and his soft ass no tackling defense is out there! 10:06
I hate Lincoln but dude is a crazy good offensive coach. The plays he pulled out va notre dame. Never made me so frustrated.
Let’s see what he does without a Heisman winning qb. USC season would have been trash without cw
Lincoln Riley is a phenomenal coach. I do miss him at OU. Every Air Raid coach fails on defense. Mike Leach, Hal Mumme, Dana Holgreson, Lincoln Riley, When u score so quickly its tough on defenses. You must run the ball and have success vs Alabama Georgia. LR killed Georgia in the Rose Bowl first 1/2. LR is not good at adjustments vs top teams. At USC LR thought he coupd get the Defense with easier talent to recruit in SoCal with a massive of talent. Alex Grinch failed at OU and is Failing at USC. Alex Grinch was a Mike Leach guy along with the rest of his staff. Dennis Simmons, Bennie Wyle etc. He needs to go get a NFL minded defense coordinator…Grinch is a great secondary coach but not a coordinator….
My opinion is what his reputation is!!
Josh Josh Josh, it’s not that we don’t like him, we just don’t respect him because of HOW he handled his last year at OU and his subsequent migration to USC. Stoops handed him a top tier program and he burned down the barn on his way out. Eventually history will repeat itself just wait…..
This
He has 0 integrity. Fact check that.
He aspires to be at 0. He is well below that.
Lincoln Riley is the best offensive mind in the country and if any QB is looking to make it to the NFL Lincoln is the guy. Saban even told Jalen to pick OU when he was transferring because he knew Riley would get him to the league by developing him as a passer. Dude has gotten almost every starting quarterback he’s had to the league other than Rattler
And Rattler was his very first highschool pick up and project that wasn't an experienced transfer. That failed miserably. Williams is just a generational talent. USC loses 6 games last season with any other QB. And it's starting to look like Nelson isn't what everyone thought he was. And that's right when they're stepping into the BIG 10. Riley better learn how to get physical REAL QUICK. It's flat out embarrassing that guy lead a top 3 Blue Blood program and just gets pushed around by everybody. Just wait until you have to deal with 5 years worth of constant shootouts, Riley gonna stress y'all the hell out. You will never feel like you control the game no matter how many points you're up. He leads the nation in letting teams come back and beat him.
The problem with this theory is that Jalen did not throw much at OU and mainly ran the ball. Sure, he made a living on the 7-12 in and out routs, but other than that, he was a running QB. Lincoln did not know what to do with him. I would even say that Jalen had the skills all along and that Lincoln did not develop him, his dad and the NFL did.
The Oklahoma program was slowly but surely degrading under his leadership. He also did not take responsibility for his lack of defense at Oklahoma. He blamed the University of Oklahoma for the inability to acquire defensive talent. He blames the players.
LR is a West Texas Spread offense guy, score 50-60 points a game and hope the clock runs out on the opposing team. He puts all his efforts at recruiting the best QBs and WRs in the nation, and he doesn't give a damn about defense. That was good enough to win the Big 12 and might be enough to win the PAC 12 which he has yet to do, but it won't win a Big 10 title and it won't win a playoff game against the an SEC team.
I like Riley just hate his DC and not even a USC fan lol
What about Pete Carroll with Carson Palmer, Matt Leighnardt and Reggie Bush?
What scares The NCAA and CFB , is a strong USC .
And what scares USC is Utah and any team with a defense
@@coffeeguy957not this year
😅😅😅
Never fixed the defense at OU and in one year at USC. That is not a complete and sound head coach!
What brand is your white t-shirt?
I understand people being salty about how he left Oklahoma, and he himself has said he regrets how he left. But regardless, his win record speaks for itself. He is elite. He created elite teams and elite players. He is one of the best (top 10) coaches in the country
His team got worse every year, after he took over for Stoops. He has never built anything. Maybe he can, maybe he can't. But nobody knows yet.
What's not to like about Lincoln Riley? He's a humble and classy head coach. He's not cocky like a Dan Lanning. Lanning lit up a cigar and smoked in front of a camara to celebrate a top 5 class.. Talk about arrogant. Imagine Riley doing that? Exactly! Riley is too classy to do something sophomoric like that.
Ducks are living rent-free in so many Trojan minds these days. If you really think Dan Lanning is arrogant, you haven’t watched any of his press conferences nor videos that show the culture he’s building at Oregon. The cigar video was celebratory because hardly anyone thought Oregon would have had as successful of a signing day as they did, especially factoring in the Dante Moore flip to UCLA.
Great comments 👌
I will say I 💯 agree its a culture problem. I watched him for 6 years almost at Oklahoma and i always questioned his culture because there never seemed to be much of one. Physicality is definitely missing from his culture. He can preach it but if he himself isnt naturally physical it doesn't work, players dont believe it. Thats why his teams get worked over by the Utahs and Kansas States of the world and then gets absolutely curbstomped by huge physical SEC teams. His players literally just bounce off them. His S&C program and philosophy HAS to change completely if he wishes to go toe to toe with the SEC. But then again he never played college football, leach had to convince him to give it up and coach. His brother.....got the worst beat down in Bowl Game history.....same problem. If they had it their way the entire game would change to 7 on 7.
Lmao u comment on all of USC content… you will never get over Lincoln leaving it hurts u to the core 😂😂😂
hhh it's an Oklahoma problem not a LR problem
Oklahoma has the most insecure fan base in the country
@@tileavenue6911then how do you out recruit you with a first time HC two seasons in a row?
@@Rob_unoit's the off season, what else do you want me to do?
Looking back at how horrendous USC's defense was last year and despite this deficiency were still a top 5 team, if USC has even a top 50 defense this year, they will be in the CFP and likely the NC game. Teams will need to drop 50+ points against USC to beat them.
As a long time Sooner fan, I’m glad Lincoln left. He didn’t fit the culture at OU, never did. Other than his win in Columbus, he didn’t do anything at OU, if we are all honest with ourselves. Not only that, but he left at the most inopportune time, and caused a bunch of players to transfer. Which makes OU fans dislike him even more.
A lot of players transfer when a new head coach comes in. Look at Colorado. That shouldn't come as a surprise
@@greg7964 Most coaches don't gut their roster on the way out, and naming Colorado isn't helping your case, as he did the same thing. Most coaches have integrity. It's only a handful of weasels like TBOW and Prime.
LR is TOP 5 coach in CFB. Records stats & wins too show
Lincoln Riley 💪🏿
PS..... The B1G is gonna eat TBOW's lunch and he'll be writing SC within 3 years.
Riley and Harbaugh kinda similar
Indeed both have losing records to the utes
@@222valas both no natty, no playoff win. All hype. Rileys problem is the defense. Whats harbaughs problem?
Oklahoma waited for years under Riley and Grinch to see a decent defense and it never materialized. It was always the old Texas Tech mentality of let’s just try to out score our opponents and hope our defense can get a stop or two. Good lick with that. Just like with Venables, everyone says prove it then we’ll believe. Which coach has won more NC’s??? What I thought. 😂😂😂😂
You need to ask people who live in Norman , Oklahoma to learn the
Dispicable truth about Riley’ s true character.
Riley has been extremely lucky: inherited Maholmes, Mayfield, Murray, Hurts, Williams…..need I say more?
Mayfield was a walk on who he helped become the #1 pick in the draft. We all see Baker ain’t that guy lol. Murray saw that and said yeah I wanna play for him. Hurts went to OU because he couldn’t cut it at Bama and became a better player under LR. When you have success players want to play for you lol simple
So if Malachi becomes another great quarterback under Lincoln, you are just going to say Lincoln is lucky to have him? Talking out of your ass
Hurts went there bc of Lincoln. Look what Saban said about him. He’s the qb whisper, QBs want to go there to get develop by Lincoln
He recruited Caleb Williams, he didn't inherit him.
And recruited rattler and benched him.
He had his chance to impress me against UGA. He failed especially in the o/t. Being a UGA fan I wanted to feel as if we had beaten a top 3 team. Beating Baker was more satisfying than beating Riley.
Lucky to do it too! And everyone knows that year you played an OU where Riley couldn't fix the gawd damn defense! You played a team with only an offense! Otherwise OU wins going away.
We're not bum ass OU.
Why the bad blood against baker? They never played each other or had any history.
He panicked against UGA, he was still learning how to manage the game. He's a better HC now than he was then.
Why do people hate on SC coaches when they leave other programs? Link, Lane and Sark all got killed when coming to the Deathstar
QUESTION? Would it be easier to win a championship during the BCS era or the Playoff era?
He's a solid coach who has to have the right QB for his system to work (see Spencer Rattler). He needs to get a better defense to win a NC, I don't know if Grinch is the right guy.
True of every coach including Saban and smart...
USC will not figure out their defense. What will happen is the pac 12 will figure out how to defend USC's offense. Just like coach Aranda and coach Campbell did.
Uh, its their Last year in the pack twelve.
@@gmailcgs that's right I forgot. Not many teams in the big 10 have experience with Riley's offence outside of Ohio State.
I think Lincoln Riley is this generation's Steve Spurrier. I think he'll eventually win a national championship but not win as many titles as you would hope if your a USC fan.
He's going to win a few or more than 3 4sure.
@@JDinero7023....he's been curbstomped 4 times in a row at TWO different Blue Blood programs while having THREE different Heisman winners.....that's should be impossible. He might finally win one but he ain't winning 3 or more lol.
When visiting, I've heard he always shows up with a dozen donuts 🍩
@@TheBenzwangerhad the Hiesman winners but the teams OU played were damn near better in every unit. OU lost to better teams it’s not that hard.
Steve didn’t coach at USC my guy
This year is the best chance he will ever have in his career to win a natty
Lincoln better pay a defensive coordinator from the NFL to get his defense right and stop the bs
Lincoln Riley is overrated because he's a head coach and he's obviously not ready to be That.
Easily a top 5 coach in the game today. Once he gets a good DC USC will win Nattys. They really have a shot this year just gotta navigate through a rough 2nd half of the schedule.
He will leave before they go to the Big 10. Future ACC coach, 100%.
@@Tijuanabill Remember how fast he left Norman?! 💨 🏃♂️ 😂😂😂
@@fayjohnson4068 About 10 seconds after finding out he had to coach against SEC teams. He won't stay in the Big 10, and if he does, he will schedule nothing but barber colleges and nunneries for the nonconference games.
@@Tijuanabill he ain’t going nowhere bud not anytime soon. Lol hell win a Natty it 2 at USC. He was more worried about the lack of support from administration and going to LA than the SEC. It’s a overrated conference that caters to making they’re teams look better than they really are. And USC doesn’t schedule Div2 opponents unlike the SEC and Oklahoma. SC probably ha the hardest schedule in 2024 for all contenders.
@@fayjohnson4068 Oklahoma has literally never scheduled a D2 team, except when other teams canceled on us.
If TBOW wasn't getting support from the admins, how is it BV was able to come in and recruit the best OU class of all time, in his first year? TBOW likes excuses, and they rarely make any sense at all.
USC is a contender for the PAC, at best. If you think your defense is solved, and that you are going to break turnover ratio records every year, you are a bigger fool than your DC, because even he doesn't believe that.
A typical TBOW defense is NOT going to win the PAC this year, with Oregon on the rise.
Cant stand any coach at USC except ED O!
Who are you. Lol
@@smoofsailing8775 some body who likes Coach O!!
We all love COACH O. Who doesn’t?
Yeah dude found out OU was coming to the SEC and ranaway from the competition.
Also hes a Great Value Josh Heupel
Ran away from competition? You think he took the job at USC without knowing they were headed to the BIG10?? Gimme a break 😂
@@InfectiousBliss Guy found out and then peed a little and ran to the worst conference in football. Believe what you want. Everyone already knows the truth
@@InfectiousBliss Nobody at OU told him about the move to the SEC, why would a future employer be that forthright?
Um cowherd has him rated there for sure
Fanboy Cowherd thinks he's the greatest fb coach to ever walk the face of the earth. And he'll fight you over that.
I know there’s nothing to do in Norman but tip over cows and comment on USC content… but it might be time to GET A LIFE. If you really are happy he’s gone then act like it. USC fans have spent ZERO time commenting on Georgia Southern boards about Clay Helton… why is that?
We comment but always say what a nice person Clay is....
If Oklahoma would have had Williams and USC stayed with dart then Oklahoma is a one loss team and USC is a 7 lose team.
Take away NIL and the portal and it would take him a few years to rebuild USC. Also, Caleb probably stays at OU because he would have had to sit out a year, and Jordan Addison probably stays at Pitt rather than transfer. But in today's college football, I think Riley will thrive at USC.
Facts
I had a big win on a sports bet so promised to take the little woman out to eat. She wasn't happy. Took her to the restaurant Tacos, Tacos, Tacos.
Lincoln Riley is the best coach in college football and it's not even close. He also has the nicest house and the best work/life balance outside of football.
Obviously not the best with a bottom defense and hasn’t one anything outside the Big 12
Didn't know Lincoln had a burner account.
The sad thing is, you really believe that shit. I have no doubt that you do. Saban is the GOAT, let alone the best right now. Period. (I'm not even a Bama fan; these are just facts.)
I don't hate Riley, didn't like the hire when he was named HC at OU when it happened. Glad he is gone, good luck to him.
HATERS WILL BE HATERS
If you throw Lincoln Riley into Ole miss they are about the same. That’s where I rank him.
Yeahhhh Josh you are dead wrong Lincoln Riley is maybe a top-25 head coach and this season so far has really shown. He can't get defense right and lacks physicality and balance. His offense has regressed, and his program and recruiting has weakened since coaching at the stable Oklahoma. He blantaly lied to his player and program and is overall soft with dealing with the media and reality.
Classic YT show content......creating a story out of nothing. Josh found one of the three Trojan fans that follow that team to bristle from a simple question about their coach. I dont have any strong feelings about LR myself (as an SEC fan), I have been impressed with his journey from East Carolina up through the ranks of college coaches through Oklahoma and now USC. I think his exit from Okla was handled with little grace, but he will stand or fall as the fortunes go with the new Big 10 presence.
I would like to see Lincoln actually have to coach. He is in fact over-rated. Put him in a program like Kansas or Stanford and see if it really is him. He is just running the same schemes that most high schools use today. He has been handed top offensive talent since he started as the head of Oklahoma. When he actually had to develop a player like Spencer Rattler, he bailed on him and it showed. Same with Caleb Williams first year at Oklahoma. Caleb and the surrounding roster won those games at Texas for example. The rest of the big 12 figured out how to stop his schemes. Look what Kansas, Iowa State and Kansas State did to his offense his last two years at Oklahoma.
I don’t believe his coaching is in doubt. It’s his morals and ethics that are ROCK BOTTOM. He is a snake in the grass who is good at coaching football (offense).
Riley will never win a national championship before he jumps to the NFL.
5th or 6th rating is great. This whole conversation is unnecessary.
Love….FightOn FightOn FightOn
Better than Venables!! We love our coach!! ✌🏾
😅 wait for karma to punch you right between the f****** eyes it's coming
I don't know the guy so I can't really give you an opinion on him as a person but as a coach, I could care less about him. I'm a Michigan fan so I just see him as a good opponent for my school. I'd rank him around 5 or 6 though.
Ok, so you have Riley haters and lovers. You also have Venables haters and lovers. So let’s take this one step further. Probably been asked before. But here goes.
What ever conference they are in doesn’t matter with this question.
Who wins a national championship first?
Riley or Venables ??
Lincoln is a used car sales man .. 🗑️
Indifferent...
The thin skin of USC fan is freaking hilarious. Bunch of soccer fans that hadn't watched football since Pete Carrol was ran out of town for cheating.
One word: tampering edit: maybe it’s a usc thing actually
Sec pure as the driven snow...
Lincoln is the man…he’s the best of the best…fight on
USC is impossible to stop, until Texas put an end to them. 2005 baby.
Please Texas 😂😂😂
And Alabama put an end to Texas 😂
@@greg7964 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, it was the NCAA that put a stop to them, obviously.
No
He has been and continues to be a top-tier football coach. And, as a young coach, he is evolving. He has restored the Trojan tradition of winning. And the best is yet to come. Now, how long can we keep him from the NFL? ✌️
Evolving? Lol nothing has changed. He's still recruiting and coaching the exact same way as he did at Oklahoma. He said he could never get a top 5 class at Oklahoma, Venables comes in immediately after and gets the #4 class. He was the problem at Oklahoma, not Oklahoma themselves.
@@TheBenzwangersaaaaalty jilted OU fan. stop stalking USC/LR, we goin need to file a YT restraining order in you 😅, this is a bit worrisome
“Evolving”? Evolving into what…even more offense and even less defense? He needs to fire Alex Grinch yesterday.
Fight on fellas!
I look at results and that being said I can say he would be an awesome offensive Coordinator but he will never be a good Head Coach.
So 66-13 with an 83% win percentage isn't a good head coach? I'm pretty sure that's GOOD enough to be a GOOD head coach
First blood
Lincoln will be exposed this year. The Ducks are the best in conference.
How many national titles has he won ? None and he never will win a National Title. His record doesn’t matter because he coached in the big 12 which is a weak conference !!!
Lincoln Riley is too much of a soy boy to ever figure out defense, no one with noodle arms like that will ever fire up a defense lol
I think he's a great offensive mind but as for leaving Oklahoma and his players the way he did was sketchy at best and the defense is terrible and if he doesn't fix that part he may do the same to SC excpecialy going to the Big 10 good luck against Penn State Ohio State Michigan and the list continues love the show Josh by the way I am a faithful Oklahoma fan
People just like to bitch and complain about everything just enjoy the game we end up in the same place anyways 6ft under
1 kirby smart
2 nick saban
3 ryan day
4 dabo swinney
5 bryan kelley
6 jim harbaugh
7 lincoln riley
8 brent venables (its more of a future prediction)
9 luke fickel
10 josh heupel
once we see lincoln in 2024 we will get a better picture of how good he is. malachie nelson doesnt seem SUPER EXTREMELY GIFTED like caleb was. he will actually take time to develop and if lincoln does that, then he has my full respect on the offensive side. he needs to do better at hiring staff/firing the grinch who stole christmas.
We'll see. If it's not a generational back yard style QB he doesn't do well. Rattler showed us a lot about him.
What has Bryan Kelly done 😂, Jim what had jim done ? How is day above 2 time champ dabo
Dude is a snake. Bob Stoops went out and hired him from nowhere America, made him into a superstar and then gutted the entire program because he didn't like the SEC news. It wasnt even that he left that upset me. It was the fact he had one of his best teams his last year and completely waisted that year and team because his mind was in the clouds. Demarco Murray had to force him to talk to the team cuz he wasn't even gonna do that. He'll bail on USC too. He ain't competing against multiple other Blue Blood programs, Penn State and a conference full of Utah's. He didn't even have to compete against a good Texas team at OU.
Yep, ranked #2 and Rattler was favored to win the Heisman that 2021 season. 🐍
Joe C , the prez and Stoops pushed him out the door, he called their bluff and left. It was either going to be USC or Oregon.
This guy is still in his feelings it’s over move on already lol
@@melrozecalled what bluff? You sure they weren't just calling him out for being a bi*ch about the SEC news? Would you trust Lincoln Riley in the SEC after watching those 4 Playoff games?
Demarco Murray will tell you who he is. And it isn’t flattering.
USC really think they got something lol bless their hearts .. he’s a a piece of ..😊
Fight On Trojans