Hey guys! People have let me know that I mistakenly thought the SP locomotive was 7374, while it was actually 7347, the Olympic painted unit. I might redo that part in the future, but sorry for the confusion!
No worries! We all make mistakes. Just a heads up, you might want to also re-do the part at 1:50 as for some reason there is a standard gauge boxcar parked on a narrow gauge track and is "floating" in the air.
@@SAUBER_KH7 I did notice that too. For me, it seems like too much of a minor detail to change at this point, but you’re right. It does look bad that way.
@@MangoTheOneI'm pretty sure it was 7374 because 7374 was first pictured in 1987, also, it was repainted two pictures later in 1994. 7347 was first pictured in '82, and was repainted in 1984, one year before the wreck. 7374 was also the last sd40 built for the SP.
I was going home from work and passed over the bridge not more than 30 seconds before the wreck. I saw both trains approaching about 600 yards apart and it didn't register what I was seeing. I was heading east bound, down the hill toward what is now the Church Ranch Road and had I looked in my mirrors would have seen the explosion. I didn't realize how close I was until I saw it on the news
@@MangoTheOne I know there were other cars on the highway behind me and going the other direction. I'm absolutely sure there were people right at the bridge when it happened.
I believe the late railfan/author Ronald C Hill snapped a photo of one of the trains where you could clearly see the crew smiling and waving in his pics......shortly before they perished.
My dad was the Trainmaster out of Denver when this happened. I was in school in north Glenn and remember hearing a big explosion while playing outside. I knew all the guys that died as I spent a ton of time at work with my dad and did eventually hired out with the BN in 95’ and still work till this day. After they rebuilt that bridge, for YEARS, whoever I worked with would always be silent going around that corner and under the new bridge or sometimes 30+ years later we still talk about it. It’s creepy.
@@phaloxx It’s interesting to know that crews are still talking about it. Then again, I bet it’s really tough to lose 5, especially if you knew them all, and in such a violent way. Thanks for sharing!
I worked a few times, off the brakeman extra board, with the three BN guys who were smashed in the terrible Kelso, WA. cornfield field meet with a UP drag, Nov. 1993. All three were b.s.'ing and missed block signals. Fatal times five.
@@grandcrappy I heard of that one. Looked equally as violent as the Westminster collision (of course, without closing part of a major highway). It killed the whole crew, right?
Dude great video. Thankfully acses and radio improvement and ptc have helped make the railroad safer. Rest in peace to people that died. Also I heard that a guy took a photo of one of the crew smiling in a photo just before the fate.
No shortages of wrecks in that area. A northbound freight collided with a southbound passenger a few miles north at Broomfield in 58 for the same reason, killing three. In 2008 another train derailed almost exactly at the 85 collision site. Still no signals to this day…
@@MangoTheOne I hadn’t heard anything about vandals. I thought that the train might have hit some cars on the rails. My guess would be that the loose cars somehow got out of the siding near there onto the main. Looking at google maps there are some cars set out. Would take vandals some effort to charge the brake lines I would think.
@@petermurdock4678 those wellcars had been there for over a month, and people have speculated that someone had tampered with the cars, releasing enough brakes to let them roll onto the mainline. Not entirely sure that’s the case, because I’m pretty sure it’s still partially under investigation
@@MangoTheOne this collision was due to some kids placing a tree stump on the tracks just ahead of a switch and the lead unit hit and pushed the stump into the frog and it caught making the lead unit derail.
Holy cow! I grew up around there and even played under that very bridge. My family moved away for a year in 1985 before returning, so I never heard of this accident. When i realized the location, I was shocked. I still work within walking distance. The lake is gone, and development now goes right up to the edge of the tracks and freeway. If something like this happened there again, there would be more casualties than just the train. I remember the 2008 derailment too. They ought to put in a better signal system!
I left the Denver BN in 1985. I was offered a year and a half pay to quit. The 1980's were at time of massive reductions in work-force, a part of "corporate culture" that was being touted by the business-school supervisors that had been replacing the up-through the ranks supervision that railroads once used. These "bean-counters" know all about the new corporate ethic, but not a lot about railroading. One of the jobs eliminated shortly before this wreck was the train-order operator at Longmont. Had there been an operator there the wreck would not have happened. I also understand that the reason the two trains could not talk to each other was that 77, the train leaving Denver, had a non-working radio in the lead locomotive. The collision was directly caused by error on the part of the 77 crew. But indirectly the result of BN cutting a job meant to provide a way of catching mistakes, as well as the need to get the cars out of town in order to make room for cars coming in.
@@andywomack3414 thanks for the context. It makes more sense how the crew misunderstood that train order now. Also good to know how the radio on 6311 wasn’t functioning. Overall it seemed like a very unlucky scenario. Lots of tiny details coming into play.
@@MangoTheOne I actually rode 77 from Denver to Lousville and I noted how the train speed under the US 36 was 50 mph, and also noticed how blind the shallow curve there due to being an underpass. I am posting from memory and the scuttlebutt from my former coworkers so of course don't take what I say as gospel. I noticed how the media coverage of that and the collision at Wiggins seemed entirely based on RR news-releases.
I remember it well. Happened on a Friday. I was at Elitches (amusement park) with some friends and we could see the smoke from the blaze from the top of the rollercoaster. The next morning, I visited the site (or as close as we could get) with a coworker. The destruction was epic.
Nobody has mentioned that 24 hour manned train order station "PROSPECT' at mile post 1 on the C&S was closed just days before. At the time it was suspected that this had to do with the crew not knowing about the other train on the same tracks just south of the old Broomfield station which was only open during the day on weekdays.
I lived in Boulder Co at the time. Me and my family were watching CNN. A L1011 had crashed in Dallas and they had live coverage. Suddenly we heard a loud BOOM! We went outside and could see the smoke near Broomfield. Weirdly my Dad pegged the spot right around where the bridge was. We hopped into the car and went tearing off toward Broomfield to check it out. We had the radio on and learned there had been a collision of 2 trains at the overpass. We found a spot in a subdivision that was being built. We were on a hill and could clearly see the whole thing.
I was hoping to find some news footage to use in the video, although it seems like none was archived. Impressive that you heard it a town away. I’ve lived in Boulder on and off for a while, and there was actually a train derailment there recently too.
I would like o see a Documentary on te train wreck in Longview Washington, in 1995 think was the year 8 Locos were completely destroyed unrecognizable. I drove by it a week later. Never seen such a horrific pile of wreckage ever online or in person.
I'd love to see a documentary on the Wiggins collision; happened in 84 or 85. Or maybe the Angora, Nebraska incident involving the power plowing into its own train after the crew misjudged the speed and distance.
My great grandpa used to work for bn I wish he was still alive, if he was we could’ve talked about a lot of aspects of the railroad maybe he even knew a little about this wreck
There was the worst of the worst of BN wrecks. Wiggins Colorado in 1984. Engineer was an “intoxicated inferno” after he totaled 7 of 10 units. 5 units on one train were telescoped. Engineer and brakeman were killed instantly. Conductor was critically injured and was terminated for his stupidity.
@@MangoTheOne the one lashup of units were all but demolished from telescoping. Two of the units on the other train were disintegrated. It looked like a lumberyard with crystallized under frames and freight cars looking like kindling
@@MangoTheOne there was also one in Ledger Montana back in 1991 that all but demolished all 9 units. 6 GP38-2s, an SD40, and two SD40-2s. Cause was either sleep deprivation or heavy fog obscuring the warning signals. Engineer I believe on one or both trains also had sleep deprivation.
If I am remembering correctly BN had another bad wreck in Colorado Springs in the 80's due to the crew not making sure that the brakes were working properly at Palmer Lake resulting in a runaway train the derailed in Colorado Springs.
Good video and research. Do you know about the Motley, Minnesota collision? It would have happened 40 years ago. Could it be considered as a suggestion?
Opening clip what unit # was that, second in consist, behind fuel tender, experimental paint scheme.... white bars on whole cab and not just nose... looks like gp40 or gp38
I wonder if you'll make Boulder train collision 1 month later. The train had Warbonnet 758 and 4272 on the train. Both of these locomotives derailed on the bridge, including some of the cars. The train was: B-PTLLAC4-19E (Portland, OR to Los Angeles, CA)
@@TPNWR10 I’m planning to eventually, although I’d hope for more information to come Ut about the cause of the runaway wellcars that caused the incident,
@@2010train1 ok. Just a heads up. I have been planning to make your other recommendations, but I’m planning to upload each on their anniversary so that’s why they aren’t up yet.
I would see ex SP units but usually 9800s so I don't think I ever saw that unit. How would you feel operating it knowing it was involved in this incident? Would you be nervous in the cab of that Southern Pacific locomotive?
@@chrispasini5870 I was actually incorrect about the locomotive returning to service. It was actually scrapped with the rest. Thinking that such a violent crash was endured by the locomotive, would be both impressive and creepy for me.
Great documentary dude! A bit of constructive criticism 1 set the time at a bit later in the day so that the situation is more visible also the SP unit was destroyed in the wreck it was numbered 7347 the old Olympic locomotive other than those small thing you did a great job!
@@JustATeenageRailfan Yeah. Just found out about that :/ Sorry for the confusion! I might reupload this with the proper simulation in the near future if I have enough time.
@@MangoTheOne yeah I’m aware I’m just saying that when I do them (the one in the works anyway) I try to keep the light relative to the wreck time as well as making sure it can be seen
O my god I swear my birth year had a death curse there was this train. Not to mention this was the year that had the second most airplane accidents espionage act of terrorist and other incident since 1942 with the highest fatalities being over 2300 in 1972. There were crash of flits 123 128 our air India and arrow air flight 1285. Just these three accident killed 256 people the total fatality count for the year counting the three accidents above comebined with several less known accidents lead to an insanely high fatality count of 2010.
I passed over those tracks that very day. Can you please do a video on the 1942? fire in tunnel number 10? on the Moffet Road. Loss of life, huge disruption of war traffic and the shipment of sheep to Denver. There was a write up in Classic Trains. Under mountain train wrecks.
@@babalui66 I said that hundreds of thousands of commuters travel across highway 36 (with no specified amount of time), but on an average it carries 37k per day
@@Amigafur I’ll let you know as soon as I am able to check DLS, as I don’t have my computer for the moment. I’ll also be sure to add the route name in the credits in the future.
Why not do the Sherman Hill, Cheyenne, Wyoming Train Wreck that happened on October 4, 2018? Locomotives: 5412 (ES44AC), 5842 (AC44CWCTE), and 5003 (SD70M).
@@benjlar1902 Train orders are generally acquired before going on duty(train orders aren't used much anymore, it's all centrally dispatched now), so that crew has time to review, just didn't take the time to actually review it in its entirety.
@@nicktynan1355 We get our orders for all subdivisions when on duty and prep time to review, they arent used anymore although OCS authority you still need clearances which is similar. Im saying in the video he says they were told to go right away by the general YDM therefore probably didnt have the time to review
@@benjlar1902 When I was doing work for the UP(or on BNSF track), would either password login to the computer or just call the train dispatcher for warrants and bulletins(or gtb's on the BNSF side)then up on the printer they would be(probably still the same now). Management kicking out trains in haste(makes waste) not surprising at all. Look up the April 9 1980 Western Pacific Hayward California wreck(can also find the NTSB report) for a gross example of "management expediency". Like I mentioned in an earlier response, this period of time was quite known for these kind of incidents. Cool to have another rail post here( though I'm a former). Keep it on the shiny side.
America is terrible for train accidents and derailment. How's about putting in electrical circuits on the track so that ALL trains can be tracked and there exact location known to the signallers. It's pathetic. Even now in 2024 there are multiple derailing accidents several times per week and your rails are in terrible conditions. It's actually PATHETIC. RIP to the victims.
Can you come up with anything else? 60 year old tech is garbage for a reason. since we have CTC and PTC using GPS to track/control movements. we use miles of 136 lb per yard rail and have 140,000 miles of mainline track. we have several thousand trains moving any given hour. now I know you got confused over a train sim clip that mimics the 1980s era. I won't sling mud.. just check that ignorance before typing. Oh and go cram the condolences you left. they are not wanted. that's all.
Hey guys! People have let me know that I mistakenly thought the SP locomotive was 7374, while it was actually 7347, the Olympic painted unit. I might redo that part in the future, but sorry for the confusion!
No worries! We all make mistakes. Just a heads up, you might want to also re-do the part at 1:50 as for some reason there is a standard gauge boxcar parked on a narrow gauge track and is "floating" in the air.
@@SAUBER_KH7 I did notice that too. For me, it seems like too much of a minor detail to change at this point, but you’re right. It does look bad that way.
@@MangoTheOneI'm pretty sure it was 7374 because 7374 was first pictured in 1987, also, it was repainted two pictures later in 1994. 7347 was first pictured in '82, and was repainted in 1984, one year before the wreck. 7374 was also the last sd40 built for the SP.
@@Thenumbersthatareodd 7347 was destroyed in the wreck and scrapped
I was going home from work and passed over the bridge not more than 30 seconds before the wreck. I saw both trains approaching about 600 yards apart and it didn't register what I was seeing. I was heading east bound, down the hill toward what is now the Church Ranch Road and had I looked in my mirrors would have seen the explosion. I didn't realize how close I was until I saw it on the news
@@rickcrane6123 wow! Really lucky that you weren’t any later. It’s pretty unbelievable how no one from the highway was injured (to my knowledge)
@@MangoTheOne I know there were other cars on the highway behind me and going the other direction. I'm absolutely sure there were people right at the bridge when it happened.
I believe the late railfan/author Ronald C Hill snapped a photo of one of the trains where you could clearly see the crew smiling and waving in his pics......shortly before they perished.
@@markjohnson4924 thats really sad & eerie. Is the photo available anywhere, or is it just by memory?
@@markjohnson4924 I've heard the same thing
My dad was the Trainmaster out of Denver when this happened. I was in school in north Glenn and remember hearing a big explosion while playing outside. I knew all the guys that died as I spent a ton of time at work with my dad and did eventually hired out with the BN in 95’ and still work till this day. After they rebuilt that bridge, for YEARS, whoever I worked with would always be silent going around that corner and under the new bridge or sometimes 30+ years later we still talk about it. It’s creepy.
@@phaloxx It’s interesting to know that crews are still talking about it. Then again, I bet it’s really tough to lose 5, especially if you knew them all, and in such a violent way. Thanks for sharing!
I worked a few times, off the brakeman extra board, with the three BN guys who were smashed in the terrible Kelso, WA. cornfield field meet with a UP drag, Nov. 1993. All three were b.s.'ing and missed block signals. Fatal times five.
@@grandcrappy I heard of that one. Looked equally as violent as the Westminster collision (of course, without closing part of a major highway). It killed the whole crew, right?
Every time i drive through there, I just sit and look at the area and think to my self, No one around here knows what happened.
@@MangoTheOne yes, on both trains.
Dude great video. Thankfully acses and radio improvement and ptc have helped make the railroad safer. Rest in peace to people that died. Also I heard that a guy took a photo of one of the crew smiling in a photo just before the fate.
@@samstranghorwitz Thanks man. I did hear of that, although I couldn’t find any online appearance of the photo whilst making this video.
No shortages of wrecks in that area. A northbound freight collided with a southbound passenger a few miles north at Broomfield in 58 for the same reason, killing three. In 2008 another train derailed almost exactly at the 85 collision site. Still no signals to this day…
@@petermurdock4678 I heard of the 2008 wreck. Only a month or so ago there was also a collision in the nearby town of Boulder because of vandals.
@@MangoTheOne I hadn’t heard anything about vandals. I thought that the train might have hit some cars on the rails. My guess would be that the loose cars somehow got out of the siding near there onto the main. Looking at google maps there are some cars set out. Would take vandals some effort to charge the brake lines I would think.
@@petermurdock4678 those wellcars had been there for over a month, and people have speculated that someone had tampered with the cars, releasing enough brakes to let them roll onto the mainline. Not entirely sure that’s the case, because I’m pretty sure it’s still partially under investigation
@@MangoTheOne Yeah, wouldn’t be surprised. Combination of things I guess, and could be anyone if they knew what they were doing.
@@MangoTheOne this collision was due to some kids placing a tree stump on the tracks just ahead of a switch and the lead unit hit and pushed the stump into the frog and it caught making the lead unit derail.
Holy cow! I grew up around there and even played under that very bridge. My family moved away for a year in 1985 before returning, so I never heard of this accident. When i realized the location, I was shocked.
I still work within walking distance. The lake is gone, and development now goes right up to the edge of the tracks and freeway. If something like this happened there again, there would be more casualties than just the train.
I remember the 2008 derailment too. They ought to put in a better signal system!
I left the Denver BN in 1985. I was offered a year and a half pay to quit. The 1980's were at time of massive reductions in work-force, a part of "corporate culture" that was being touted by the business-school supervisors that had been replacing the up-through the ranks supervision that railroads once used. These "bean-counters" know all about the new corporate ethic, but not a lot about railroading.
One of the jobs eliminated shortly before this wreck was the train-order operator at Longmont. Had there been an operator there the wreck would not have happened.
I also understand that the reason the two trains could not talk to each other was that 77, the train leaving Denver, had a non-working radio in the lead locomotive.
The collision was directly caused by error on the part of the 77 crew. But indirectly the result of BN cutting a job meant to provide a way of catching mistakes, as well as the need to get the cars out of town in order to make room for cars coming in.
@@andywomack3414 thanks for the context. It makes more sense how the crew misunderstood that train order now. Also good to know how the radio on 6311 wasn’t functioning. Overall it seemed like a very unlucky scenario. Lots of tiny details coming into play.
@@MangoTheOne I actually rode 77 from Denver to Lousville and I noted how the train speed under the US 36 was 50 mph, and also noticed how blind the shallow curve there due to being an underpass.
I am posting from memory and the scuttlebutt from my former coworkers so of course don't take what I say as gospel.
I noticed how the media coverage of that and the collision at Wiggins seemed entirely based on RR news-releases.
Track signals/CTC would have helped as well. To this day still no signals.
Correction: 36 is a US highway, not an interstate. (Round around 6 minutes in)
@@Aetherometricist thanks!
unstoppable ost mentioned 🗣, also I think the audio balancing between the music and your voice is fine
@@realonthecircuit such an underused track. Thanks!
I remember it well. Happened on a Friday. I was at Elitches (amusement park) with some friends and we could see the smoke from the blaze from the top of the rollercoaster. The next morning, I visited the site (or as close as we could get) with a coworker. The destruction was epic.
Living around the area and being a train buff I never knew about this
I grew up and live in the area. My mom has mentioned this accident over the years and I have passed over it many times
Same I live in Fort Collins and I love trains so I often go to Westminster
Congrats on 30k !
Thx man :D
@@MangoTheOne Erm, actually 🤓☝, it's 46.248 views
Excellent video friend
Railshup productions has also done this, both are great!
@@Thenumbersthatareodd thanks!
@@MangoTheOneyou're welcome.
Fascinating video. Was always a huge fan on the BN
Thanks for watching
I miss the Old BN
The SP unit was actually 7347 not 7374. It’s was destroyed in the wreck and scrapped.
@@corneliusadeola7261 sorry. I do realize that now. I saw that it’s was in service until 95, but I assume that was likely just a mistake.
what was sad is that was the only olympic unit on sp
Well done. Please consider re-creating BN head on at Maiden Rock, Wisconsin on 8/23/79. I grew up about 10 miles from that accident.
@@HiHaven8 ok. I will look into it.
This is cool Mango!
@@Navadaedits2908 thanks!
Nobody has mentioned that 24 hour manned train order station "PROSPECT' at mile post 1 on the C&S was closed just days before. At the time it was suspected that this had to do with the crew not knowing about the other train on the same tracks just south of the old Broomfield station which was only open during the day on weekdays.
@@chucksartor6760 didn’t hear about that part. Could totally see how that could’ve contributed.
I lived in Boulder Co at the time. Me and my family were watching CNN. A L1011 had crashed in Dallas and they had live coverage. Suddenly we heard a loud BOOM! We went outside and could see the smoke near Broomfield. Weirdly my Dad pegged the spot right around where the bridge was. We hopped into the car and went tearing off toward Broomfield to check it out. We had the radio on and learned there had been a collision of 2 trains at the overpass. We found a spot in a subdivision that was being built. We were on a hill and could clearly see the whole thing.
I was hoping to find some news footage to use in the video, although it seems like none was archived. Impressive that you heard it a town away. I’ve lived in Boulder on and off for a while, and there was actually a train derailment there recently too.
I would like o see a Documentary on te train wreck in Longview Washington, in 1995 think was the year
8 Locos were completely destroyed unrecognizable. I drove by it a week later. Never seen such a horrific pile of wreckage ever online or in person.
@@yafois988 I will when I have the time. Thanks for watching!
I'd love to see a documentary on the Wiggins collision; happened in 84 or 85. Or maybe the Angora, Nebraska incident involving the power plowing into its own train after the crew misjudged the speed and distance.
@@LongHoodKW ok. I’ll look into it.
The 80s were certainly an exciting time in American railroading.
And just to think, around 19 years after this wreck, the overall same thing would happen on BNSF..
My great grandpa used to work for bn I wish he was still alive, if he was we could’ve talked about a lot of aspects of the railroad maybe he even knew a little about this wreck
There was the worst of the worst of BN wrecks. Wiggins Colorado in 1984. Engineer was an “intoxicated inferno” after he totaled 7 of 10 units. 5 units on one train were telescoped. Engineer and brakeman were killed instantly. Conductor was critically injured and was terminated for his stupidity.
@@nicholasmedovich8691 wow! Never heard of it. Sounds real bad. Was there just one crew involved?
locomotives involved were
BN 6714 BN 6319 BN 6800 BN 5914 BN 6922
BN 7820 BN 8043 BN 7234 BN 6732 & BN 4068
@@MangoTheOne the one lashup of units were all but demolished from telescoping. Two of the units on the other train were disintegrated. It looked like a lumberyard with crystallized under frames and freight cars looking like kindling
@@MangoTheOne there was also one in Ledger Montana back in 1991 that all but demolished all 9 units. 6 GP38-2s, an SD40, and two SD40-2s. Cause was either sleep deprivation or heavy fog obscuring the warning signals. Engineer I believe on one or both trains also had sleep deprivation.
@@nicholasmedovich8691 I saw pictures of that one. Those locomotives were so twisted and mutilated. Real terrible.
If I am remembering correctly BN had another bad wreck in Colorado Springs in the 80's due to the crew not making sure that the brakes were working properly at Palmer Lake resulting in a runaway train the derailed in Colorado Springs.
@@sirblack1619 I’ve heard about that one. Crew & helper crew was lucky. If I’m remembering right they both escaped uninjured?
Good video and research. Do you know about the Motley, Minnesota collision? It would have happened 40 years ago. Could it be considered as a suggestion?
@@emmanuelsavage4707 thanks for watching. I’ll look into it, but it might be a while.
Nice video
@@Bradley-h3w thank you
Opening clip what unit # was that, second in consist, behind fuel tender, experimental paint scheme.... white bars on whole cab and not just nose... looks like gp40 or gp38
Found it BN # 2100
I wonder if you'll make Boulder train collision 1 month later. The train had Warbonnet 758 and 4272 on the train. Both of these locomotives derailed on the bridge, including some of the cars.
The train was: B-PTLLAC4-19E (Portland, OR to Los Angeles, CA)
@@TPNWR10 I’m planning to eventually, although I’d hope for more information to come Ut about the cause of the runaway wellcars that caused the incident,
Very nice video. I do recommend looking into the 2017 Money Mississippi train collision.
@@2010train1 ok. Just a heads up. I have been planning to make your other recommendations, but I’m planning to upload each on their anniversary so that’s why they aren’t up yet.
I understand
Also i have a few more recommendations if you want to do them.
2006 Lincoln, Alabama train collision
2005 Momence, Illinois train collision
@@2010train1 ok. Will do.
I would see ex SP units but usually 9800s so I don't think I ever saw that unit. How would you feel operating it knowing it was involved in this incident? Would you be nervous in the cab of that Southern Pacific locomotive?
@@chrispasini5870 I was actually incorrect about the locomotive returning to service. It was actually scrapped with the rest. Thinking that such a violent crash was endured by the locomotive, would be both impressive and creepy for me.
Great documentary dude! A bit of constructive criticism 1 set the time at a bit later in the day so that the situation is more visible also the SP unit was destroyed in the wreck it was numbered 7347 the old Olympic locomotive other than those small thing you did a great job!
@@JustATeenageRailfan Yeah. Just found out about that :/ Sorry for the confusion! I might reupload this with the proper simulation in the near future if I have enough time.
@@MangoTheOne all good man even with those small things it’s still a great documentary
@@JustATeenageRailfanalso, for the simulation time, it was set to the late afternoon as that’s when the collision took place.
@@MangoTheOne yeah I’m aware I’m just saying that when I do them (the one in the works anyway) I try to keep the light relative to the wreck time as well as making sure it can be seen
@@JustATeenageRailfan I am just trying to make it as accurate as possible.
Loving the Minecraft outro. 😂
O my god I swear my birth year had a death curse there was this train. Not to mention this was the year that had the second most airplane accidents espionage act of terrorist and other incident since 1942 with the highest fatalities being over 2300 in 1972. There were crash of flits 123 128 our air India and arrow air flight 1285. Just these three accident killed 256 people the total fatality count for the year counting the three accidents above comebined with several less known accidents lead to an insanely high fatality count of 2010.
I have a two request for train wrecks. First in the 2012 Three train collision in Suman,IN and 1997 Devine Texas Train Collision.
@@corneliusadeola7261 the first one is highly requested and will come out quickly. I will research the second when I have time.
I passed over those tracks that very day. Can you please do a video on the 1942? fire in tunnel number 10? on the Moffet Road. Loss of life, huge disruption of war traffic and the shipment of sheep to Denver. There was a write up in Classic Trains. Under mountain train wrecks.
@@davidhand5538 I will as long as there is enough information available, but it might not be the first few videos to come out.
On my birthday too...
That section of track was not protected by signals at the time. I wonder if they've since been installed there?
@@markrosenthal9108 I lived near the now BNSF Longmont subdivision, and as far as I know the majority is still non signal territory.
there is no Interstate 36 in colorado its us Highway 36
@@davidharris2519 someone pointed that out. Sorry about that
This happened not too far from my house.
I live in noco and I barely understood this until now.
@@Verypickledlemon thanks for watching
Which was it? 37k of commuters or 100k commuters on highway 36???????
@@babalui66 I said that hundreds of thousands of commuters travel across highway 36 (with no specified amount of time), but on an average it carries 37k per day
Background sound volume was a little high. You can do without background music - the narration should be the focus of sound.
@@a62dave I’ll consider it, but Id rather keep the background music than remove it
What route is this? I didn't see it in the credits
@@Amigafur I’ll let you know as soon as I am able to check DLS, as I don’t have my computer for the moment. I’ll also be sure to add the route name in the credits in the future.
@@MangoTheOnethanks!
@@Amigafur really sorry I never got back to you. If you still needed it, it’s in the TRS19 DLS as Colorado & Southern River Valley
Where did this happen in Westminster? I'm in Longmont and have never heard of this accident before
@@malcolmdean6899 adjacent to Lower Church Lake, under the Denver Boulder Turnpike
The Minecraft music though
could you do one for washington i always see the 2017 and 1910 wrecks but never any of our other wrecks
@@pacificnorthwestandsouther703 I have been requested to make one on a wreck in Kelso already. I’ll let you know once it comes out.
That's why we have tech intrusion.
Why not do the Sherman Hill, Cheyenne, Wyoming Train Wreck that happened on October 4, 2018?
Locomotives: 5412 (ES44AC), 5842 (AC44CWCTE), and 5003 (SD70M).
@@rayliang-vy5mb already planning to, but I might not have time to post it on October 4
@@MangoTheOne let me know if I can help with that, Benji was a student of mine.
@@therandfiles thanks! I’ll let you know once I’ve started making the video if I ever need any information
Train Simulator or Trainz?
@@TumbleTrashOfficial Trainz 2019, listed in the credits
That’s US 36, not I-36
@@RealSergiob466 yeah. People have let me know. Sorry about that
Song at 4:50
@@Foamer-b7y Toby fox- quiet water. Music is always listed in the credits of the video 👍
All they had to do was just go around each other! PROBLEM SOLVED!!! but seriously rip to the crew tho
If 6311's engineer has properly interpreted train order 28 and stayed put. The 1980s were littered with wrecks like this.
@@nicktynan1355 if only they had time to review it eh
@@benjlar1902 Train orders are generally acquired before going on duty(train orders aren't used much anymore, it's all centrally dispatched now), so that crew has time to review, just didn't take the time to actually review it in its entirety.
@@nicktynan1355 We get our orders for all subdivisions when on duty and prep time to review, they arent used anymore although OCS authority you still need clearances which is similar. Im saying in the video he says they were told to go right away by the general YDM therefore probably didnt have the time to review
@@benjlar1902 When I was doing work for the UP(or on BNSF track), would either password login to the computer or just call the train dispatcher for warrants and bulletins(or gtb's on the BNSF side)then up on the printer they would be(probably still the same now). Management kicking out trains in haste(makes waste) not surprising at all. Look up the April 9 1980 Western Pacific Hayward California wreck(can also find the NTSB report) for a gross example of "management expediency". Like I mentioned in an earlier response, this period of time was quite known for these kind of incidents. Cool to have another rail post here( though I'm a former). Keep it on the shiny side.
America is terrible for train accidents and derailment. How's about putting in electrical circuits on the track so that ALL trains can be tracked and there exact location known to the signallers. It's pathetic. Even now in 2024 there are multiple derailing accidents several times per week and your rails are in terrible conditions. It's actually PATHETIC. RIP to the victims.
@@Ron-u1z Where's the connection between 1984 and 2024? time traveler?
Can you come up with anything else? 60 year old tech is garbage for a reason. since we have CTC and PTC using GPS to track/control movements. we use miles of 136 lb per yard rail and have 140,000 miles of mainline track. we have several thousand trains moving any given hour. now I know you got confused over a train sim clip that mimics the 1980s era. I won't sling mud.. just check that ignorance before typing.
Oh and go cram the condolences you left. they are not wanted. that's all.
love the deltarune music at 0:00 nice video
@@TheAustinSubRailfan thanks :)