Imo shrinking violet is an S tier insta because of a few things: 1. It's plant food. Shrinking the whole lawn is very powerful makes it 2 times easier to kill the zombies on it (literally) 2. It's one of the best counters to gargs. It also kills the imp on their backs. 3. It's 3x3 radius. If you can use it in the right place, you basically kill 9 tiles of zombies.
I don't get it why Buzz Button is just terrible, sure once we've reach like a certain level plant, it became versatile, although I find myself rather use different plant like imp pear, rather than just tickles the zombie
@@DJ_Wolfy5 and others straight up break the game. XD Shame you can only really see the raw power in Penny's pursuit mostly where the zombies are powerful enough to make leveled up plants necessary, but that does factor in if Seediums are as good or not since they're harder to farm if their event isn't active.
I can hear that calamity music during the impear section. Wish it was a little louder tbh. Also I feel like imitater would be an instant plant, as it has an instant effect when placed instead of waiting for a zombie to get close.
I used to make the music way too loud in some older videos, so I really make sure it's not too loud nowadays. But I will keep that in mind, if the soundtrack is a banger. Maybe I will turn it up a bit.
7:57 Best thing about Shadow-shroom is that when it’s powered, its poison can spread through zombies getting goog value with control plants. You didn’t even mention Doom-shroom in this game as it’s added as a semi-insta to be much better than Explode-o-vine.
Is that even worth it? You need to power it so unless you decide to put your sun producer in front of the lawn it wouldn't get much value, and it kills quite quick so i reckon it doesn't have time to spread too much Idk, never had tried to power it though
I had some people in my discord say it is S tier and some people say it was not. My original placement was B tier, then I moved it to S tier, then it got moved again to A tier. That is where it ended up being ranked.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 popular opinion isn’t always correct. An aoe stall insta that can effectively stop an entire lane permanently with zero exceptions is extremely strong.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 It may be because while it can perma stall a garg, that's all it does as it doesn't do damage nor have some kind of aoe effect that really brings it to S tier. Though in Arena, being able to stop zombies gives you more points which is nice, but you want to kill zombies as quickly as possible, not stall them for any reason. So I think A is fair. The other plants break Arena mode.
A little thing with Sun Bean is that you can actually have a zombie eat multiple Sun Beans to "stack" Sun Bean, because each Sun Bean on a zombie produces sun independently, and it's a way to bypass the upper limit of how much a Sun Beaned zombie can produce- 300 sun at level 1. It's a great way to gain more value out of a single zombie, and that's how I was able to cheese Dark Ages - Day 14 and other "produce X sun" levels.
"For those of you who don't know what the difference between a semi-insta and a true insta is, a true instant plant is a truly instant plant" Thanks for the insight 🤣
The sun bean can also stack, which means on “produce X amount of sun” levels, you can just stall one zombie at the end and force feed it sun beans, which can give you hundreds or thousands of sun from one zombie
Hypno Shroom belongs if F tier because of that Zomboss fight.... If you know you KNOW........... But the rest of the list is spot on! Love the honorable mention too, cause I know people would mention the most HEAVILY MISUNDERSTOOD plant in the game (explod-o-nut is NOT as OP as people think...modders... but I digress). Good respect!
For me, I love solar sage especially in higher lvls, it's satisfying to use on lanes filled with zombies cus it's like a domino effect it's also so good for sun :O
Shrinking violet also slows and is one of the most consistent plants, also disabling a lot of annoying abilities that zombies may have. Definitely S tier
Did you know that sea kelp can stun the shark boss? It only happens when the shark is vacuuming plants. This is good when you dont want to lose your entire lane of plants
I agree with most of the ranks here. Some things I would have personally changed are inverting Squash and lava guava, move shrinking violet in S tier and putting eletrici-tea to the top of B tier. By the way I really think that reducing the sun cost of hypno shroom to something like 75 would really improve the plant.
I'd put Chili Bean higher since it can counter any zombie that eats plants (minus machines). It's so useful for fighting high level zombies in Penny's Pursuit.
Electrici Tea does similar things to Buzz Button but stronger, when eaten it strikes zombies immediately with almost 1000 damages, that's why I love Electrici Tea
what abt torchwood (only when eaten alongside hot date), tumbleweed (like rhubarbian)hot date, escape root, grimrose(she is almost instant if if she was not plant foodable and moonflowers) (idk if these count but parsnip and guacodile because you lose them when something happens to them than getting eaten you lose guacodile cause he rushed down if he takes too much damge from zombies like jester or if they get too close) and parsnip does the same but only when he takes too much damage
Explode-o-vine is a semi instant plant, but explode-o-nut isn't(they both do the same thing: defensive plant which explodes after beign deatroyed, but first also do damage when planted)?
At higher levels, Iceberg Lettuce can freeze multiple tiles (1x1, 1x3 and at high levels, a 3X3 RADIUS, WHICH IS INSANE), not only that, at high levels it also slows the zombies after they thaw out. It even freezes them for LONG enough that you can plant it again WHILE the zombie is frozen, basically giving it an infinite loop. Stunion at higher levels POISONS zombies as well, which is really useful, especially at later levels, or with plant food, but i dont know if it increases stun range/tiles. Stallia knocks backs zombies at higher levels (i think), which can be very useful, a 3x3 knockback is very nice. Also, Iceberg Lettuce suffers a weakness that Stallia and Stunion do not. Iceberg Lettuce cant be used well with fire plants, because the fire plants (Snapdragon, Torchwood, Flame Peas, Inferno...) will melt the zombies, making them not frozen anymore, which is a weakness that Stallia and Stunion DO NOT have.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 Yeah. So it mostly comes to preference, and the plants you wish to use. If you want to use anything fire related (Pyre Vine, ANY torchwood strat etc..) then Iceberg is F tier, but if not, then its up in A or S tier, while Stunion and Stallia are good all around
Stunion poison ability is actually bad because it makes the next wave of zombies spawn faster, which basically remove stunion's purpose of stalling zombies
Technically Wall-nut other known as Johnny is a true insta here’s why So true instas have their effects activated right away and johnnys effect is to be a wall and when planted he is a wall
It was an oversight, and by the time I noticed I decided to just leave it in because it would require me to do a lot of extra work to fix. So my bad, it's on me.
wait, primal potato mine technically 4x3 vertically, becouse for some reason primal potato mine can also damage 2 tile below it, making the blast radius is 4x3 vertically, the best way to used primal potato mine is plased it on the second or third lane from the top
I think gum nut is deserved s tier because his gum have same hp as tall nut plus this gum can survive 28 smashes from gargantuar also his plant food is very good
I have used imp pear in arenas but its imp turning radius is not large enough. I would better bring primal potato mines, gattling peas, torchwood and pea vines.
I just tought maybe what completely categories a semi instant is that semi instant plants can use plant food Also, electricitea does more than waiting to be eaten, altought thats the most value you can get from it, i think that makes it to have a kind of similar role to plantorch
Imo shrinking violet is an S tier insta because of a few things:
1. It's plant food. Shrinking the whole lawn is very powerful makes it 2 times easier to kill the zombies on it (literally)
2. It's one of the best counters to gargs. It also kills the imp on their backs.
3. It's 3x3 radius. If you can use it in the right place, you basically kill 9 tiles of zombies.
Preach, brother!
Combine shrinking violet pf with draftodil and you instakill every zombie
Primal Potato Mine plant food nukes the entire board tho.
Nukes board vs half the board
@@nacl4988 Primal Potato mine is also S tier, better than shrinking violet imo, but I think placing it in A tier is kinda doing it injustice.
That is a fair point, and I don't disagree.
I don't get it why Buzz Button is just terrible, sure once we've reach like a certain level plant, it became versatile, although I find myself rather use different plant like imp pear, rather than just tickles the zombie
This is based on lv 1 plants
I think at level one, he is a bad version of electricitea(he dies with plant food)
Most plants when leveled enough become at very least viable.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 and others straight up break the game. XD Shame you can only really see the raw power in Penny's pursuit mostly where the zombies are powerful enough to make leveled up plants necessary, but that does factor in if Seediums are as good or not since they're harder to farm if their event isn't active.
@@MarioMastar I wish they would ad a 4 pepper difficulty, because 3 pepper is too easy with high level plants.
3:17 the hypnotize Garg missed
I know lol.
Imp pear+shrinking violet+tile turnup=blover+reinforce mint
That is one for the history books.
Shrinking volatile turnip
@@sai2849wrong
Nice
8:49 THIS HAD ME DYING🤣🤣🤣
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you are literally one of the TH-camrs that inspired me to become a TH-camr myself 😊
I will sub to u.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 tyyy!!!
I can hear that calamity music during the impear section. Wish it was a little louder tbh. Also I feel like imitater would be an instant plant, as it has an instant effect when placed instead of waiting for a zombie to get close.
I used to make the music way too loud in some older videos, so I really make sure it's not too loud nowadays. But I will keep that in mind, if the soundtrack is a banger. Maybe I will turn it up a bit.
0:26 lol tom and jewwy bomb
Yes
another masterpiece :D been waiting for this video
Thank you! Glad it was good.
7:57 Best thing about Shadow-shroom is that when it’s powered, its poison can spread through zombies getting goog value with control plants.
You didn’t even mention Doom-shroom in this game as it’s added as a semi-insta to be much better than Explode-o-vine.
I did not mention doom shroom because it is not officially released yet. (I think)
@@DJ_Wolfy5yeah, it's still up to release
Still not out
Is that even worth it?
You need to power it so unless you decide to put your sun producer in front of the lawn it wouldn't get much value, and it kills quite quick so i reckon it doesn't have time to spread too much
Idk, never had tried to power it though
I thought shadow shroom's power effect is one of the worst effect out of all shadow plants.
Gumnut deserves S tier. It’s basically turns every zombie in an aoe into a tall nut and counters every special zombie.
I had some people in my discord say it is S tier and some people say it was not. My original placement was B tier, then I moved it to S tier, then it got moved again to A tier. That is where it ended up being ranked.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 popular opinion isn’t always correct.
An aoe stall insta that can effectively stop an entire lane permanently with zero exceptions is extremely strong.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 It may be because while it can perma stall a garg, that's all it does as it doesn't do damage nor have some kind of aoe effect that really brings it to S tier. Though in Arena, being able to stop zombies gives you more points which is nice, but you want to kill zombies as quickly as possible, not stall them for any reason. So I think A is fair. The other plants break Arena mode.
@@MarioMastar That was kind of my head cannon. It does not do damage, so not quite S tier.
@@tacotown4598 That is true.
DJ Wolfy, good job these videos are all just amazing. Keep it up!
Thanks for the support. Glad you like them!
3:35 Me: "waiting for potato Mine to arm ⏰"
NEW DJ WOLFY DROPPED LETS GO!
Yes Sir!!
You forgot to mention that chili bean also stuns the zombies in the same lane, behind.
Yeah, you're right. It did take it into account when ranking though.
It means the fart is radioactive
@@DJ_Wolfy5 ok
Also stunion stuns three tiles. (3x1)
@@lucaslargan5777 Im not sure it's that big of an area
7:21 “Why is shadow shroom so high? “💀
Lmao, I did not even think about that.
I love this already please never stop uploading
Glad you like it.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 i like it
A little thing with Sun Bean is that you can actually have a zombie eat multiple Sun Beans to "stack" Sun Bean, because each Sun Bean on a zombie produces sun independently, and it's a way to bypass the upper limit of how much a Sun Beaned zombie can produce- 300 sun at level 1. It's a great way to gain more value out of a single zombie, and that's how I was able to cheese Dark Ages - Day 14 and other "produce X sun" levels.
"For those of you who don't know what the difference between a semi-insta and a true insta is, a true instant plant is a truly instant plant" Thanks for the insight 🤣
"Lawa guawa"😂
Man i love your accent its just sooo cute
8:49 What happened to pg13 🤣
Also, you forgot the best thing imitater can copy. Puff shroom! OMG it's such good value!
lets just not talk about that lol (I want to finish the sentence so bad but I won't)
About the pg13. Yeah I did consider that, but I thought the joke was ok so I decided to include it.
Yeah puff shroom imitated is OP.
The sun bean can also stack, which means on “produce X amount of sun” levels, you can just stall one zombie at the end and force feed it sun beans, which can give you hundreds or thousands of sun from one zombie
Or just stall with sun production
Fact. All attack plant is instant kill when the zombies have one heart😂😂
Semi-Insta can also named Trap plants.
Anyways nice video mate💪
That is a good name.
for me shinking violet is S but nice video❤
1 reason I love Explode o vine is because it has such a fast recharge time and is basically a cherry bomb and explode o nut combined
what would doom shroom be ranked
Hypno Shroom belongs if F tier because of that Zomboss fight.... If you know you KNOW...........
But the rest of the list is spot on! Love the honorable mention too, cause I know people would mention the most HEAVILY MISUNDERSTOOD plant in the game (explod-o-nut is NOT as OP as people think...modders... but I digress). Good respect!
Yeah for some reason mods nerf it into oblivion every time.
Wild West day 35 PTSD enabled.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 I hate that Zomboss
@@Mobilenoob-ps8em same
“Shrinking Violet make zombies have a micro peashooter” -DJ_Wolfy
Finally all(?) of the insta plants's tier ranking is complete!
Yeah, the insta rankings are complete. (besides like 2 or 3 plants people pointed out I missed)
With the aqua vine coming out so tangle kelp might get more love and more OP
That Hypno Shroom made me trippy
Never knew mike tyson had a pvz youtube channel
you forgot about escape root
You are soo right. My bad. I would put it in A tier.
@@DJ_Wolfy5ok
@@DJ_Wolfy5but why?
@@MaryFirasek It's explosion ability is good.
@@DJ_Wolfy5fr
Bro really wanted to 'wank' every semi-insta plant in Plants versus Zombies 2💀💀💀🤙
lol
@@DJ_Wolfy5 why is escape root not here it’s practically a potato mine
@@MalissaWurtz I forgot about it. I never even thought about it lol.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 it’s funny too cause you said it in the video
For me, I love solar sage especially in higher lvls, it's satisfying to use on lanes filled with zombies cus it's like a domino effect it's also so good for sun :O
Shrinking violet also slows and is one of the most consistent plants, also disabling a lot of annoying abilities that zombies may have.
Definitely S tier
If you use potato mine's plant food in a group of zombies, it instantly arms and blows up ALL of them in its range, and then makes more!
Did you know that sea kelp can stun the shark boss? It only happens when the shark is vacuuming plants. This is good when you dont want to lose your entire lane of plants
Gumnut gets even more broken when you remember reinforcemint exists
I'm proud of you.
I agree with most of the ranks here. Some things I would have personally changed are inverting Squash and lava guava, move shrinking violet in S tier and putting eletrici-tea to the top of B tier. By the way I really think that reducing the sun cost of hypno shroom to something like 75 would really improve the plant.
If hypno was 75 sun it would be a lot better. I agree with your changes to the rankings and see what you mean.
Legends say Mike is still eating
According to tablets discovered, mike has been stuck for thousands of years.
I LOVE those guys accent/voice
Torch food bursts out in flames because when it gets eaten it wants to be a jalapeño
I'd put Chili Bean higher since it can counter any zombie that eats plants (minus machines). It's so useful for fighting high level zombies in Penny's Pursuit.
Electrici Tea does similar things to Buzz Button but stronger, when eaten it strikes zombies immediately with almost 1000 damages, that's why I love Electrici Tea
what mod are you using for gameplay
Wouldn't imitator be a true insta since it does it's ability immediately?
Idk if smashy red boi counts as a semi insta though, cause im pretty sure he has a time limit, can’t remember tho
So what mod are you running cause snow pea Hurrikale Squash are all premiums but your board is showing them as world plants
Tier list and video is good of not the best video I have seen today
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
Legends says Mike is still stuck.
what about using imp pear and shrinking violet? 1 plant food and clear?
"A true instant plant is a true instant plant"
Gumnut's gum when boosted by mint has over 40000 health at level 1🤯🤯
Das crazy
I tought Guacodile is an Semi Instant because when a zombie gets near they chomp the tiles forward and shoot too. Am I right?
Some say thet mike is still stuck to this day
but what tier will u rank new doomshroom tho?
A tier, or maybe even S tier. It seems good, but I have not played with it.
what abt torchwood (only when eaten alongside hot date), tumbleweed (like rhubarbian)hot date, escape root, grimrose(she is almost instant if if she was not plant foodable and moonflowers) (idk if these count but parsnip and guacodile because you lose them when something happens to them than getting eaten you lose guacodile cause he rushed down if he takes too much damge from zombies like jester or if they get too close) and parsnip does the same but only when he takes too much damage
1 impear + 1 shrinking violet + plantfood = super op
What about that shadow plant that can swallow zombies 3 time before dissaperaing
You are right, I forgot. It would be B tier probably.
impearx2+tile turnipx2+plantfood = no more zombies
15:15 ah a fellow terraria calamity enjoyer (im talking about the song if you didnt understand)
Terraria is such a fun game. (I have around 500 hours in it)
Buzz button is really bad, but it’s electrified zombie damaging other zombies can be used to take care of chickens or ferrets in a pinch
Explode-o-vine is a semi instant plant, but explode-o-nut isn't(they both do the same thing: defensive plant which explodes after beign deatroyed, but first also do damage when planted)?
At higher levels, Iceberg Lettuce can freeze multiple tiles (1x1, 1x3 and at high levels, a 3X3 RADIUS, WHICH IS INSANE), not only that, at high levels it also slows the zombies after they thaw out. It even freezes them for LONG enough that you can plant it again WHILE the zombie is frozen, basically giving it an infinite loop.
Stunion at higher levels POISONS zombies as well, which is really useful, especially at later levels, or with plant food, but i dont know if it increases stun range/tiles.
Stallia knocks backs zombies at higher levels (i think), which can be very useful, a 3x3 knockback is very nice.
Also, Iceberg Lettuce suffers a weakness that Stallia and Stunion do not. Iceberg Lettuce cant be used well with fire plants, because the fire plants (Snapdragon, Torchwood, Flame Peas, Inferno...) will melt the zombies, making them not frozen anymore, which is a weakness that Stallia and Stunion DO NOT have.
Yeah when leveled all 3 of the stallers become insane. Stallia knockback is nuts, iceberg splash is really good, and the poison from stunion is nice.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 Yeah. So it mostly comes to preference, and the plants you wish to use. If you want to use anything fire related (Pyre Vine, ANY torchwood strat etc..) then Iceberg is F tier, but if not, then its up in A or S tier, while Stunion and Stallia are good all around
Stunion poison ability is actually bad because it makes the next wave of zombies spawn faster, which basically remove stunion's purpose of stalling zombies
8:48 AYOOO
Technically Wall-nut other known as Johnny is a true insta here’s why
So true instas have their effects activated right away and johnnys effect is to be a wall and when planted he is a wall
how do you "accidentally" include ghost pepper????? and immitater just edit those out????????
It was an oversight, and by the time I noticed I decided to just leave it in because it would require me to do a lot of extra work to fix. So my bad, it's on me.
Amazing video now rank every defensive plant
It's on the list of ideas.
Shoutouts to bramble bush for breaking chili beans because of the changes to damage mechanics it made
Imo hypno shroom is A tier because it's 75 sun (75 in pvz1, and 3 sun in pvz2 essentially) which is a great deal for hypnotizing tanks
I like ur voice btw make
A vid of pvzh. (Heroes) potential zombies that fits worlds in pvz2
lava guava can stall gargs for a super long time because it's invincible during its plant food effect
why doesn’t anybody know that buzz button electrifies the bees (from the plant I forgot the name of)and makes them do double damage
wait, primal potato mine technically 4x3 vertically, becouse for some reason primal potato mine can also damage 2 tile below it, making the blast radius is 4x3 vertically, the best way to used primal potato mine is plased it on the second or third lane from the top
Bro what about teleportation mine?😢
It's in the true instas video.
would guacadile or how ever its spelled, also be a semi insta?
would you count ultimato as a semi-semi-instant plant, since it dissapears after its plant food
Yeah bc Ultimato + PF is equal to Doom Shroom + Coffee Bean lmao.
Is Imitater a (true) insta?
yes
Yes
I think gum nut is deserved s tier because his gum have same hp as tall nut plus this gum can survive 28 smashes from gargantuar also his plant food is very good
Why did they make hypno shroom 125?
Yeah, it's almost double the price than it was in the first game.
@@sehjaskohli598and even worse in this game than the original (as well as now being completely outclassed by other options, like caulipower)
I have used imp pear in arenas but its imp turning radius is not large enough. I would better bring primal potato mines, gattling peas, torchwood and pea vines.
When it gets leveled up a bit it turns so many more zombies to imps. But I kind of agree with you, at level 1 just use PPM
his accent (?) is so cuteeee
This has nothing to do with the video but bonkchoy is literally Jesus
Fr fr
Rumors say mike is still stuck in gum :[
I love this guys accent lol its funny.
7:20 why is shadow shroom so high?
🤨
PF effect
@@Naito115 i mean the other kind of "high"
lmao.
Impear and shrinking violet?
Super good combo.
O yeah also shrinking violet divides the zombies attack in half
Oh yeah, that too. I guess that went over my head.
Where would the pvz2 doom-shroom fall in this list
Do u watch Wolfy playz?
1:00 well it is true because you can make a semi Insta with it
5:06 sunbean is extremely useful well combined with the fumeshroom’s Chlorophyll.
Yeah, good combo
Hey bro, not sure whether its a semi or true insta, but im pretty sure doom shroom is an insta, no?
Doom shroom isn't in pvz2
You forgot that shadow shrooms can be powered by moon flower 😭
Is teleportato mine a semi insta?
That’s what I’m sayin
I just tought maybe what completely categories a semi instant is that semi instant plants can use plant food
Also, electricitea does more than waiting to be eaten, altought thats the most value you can get from it, i think that makes it to have a kind of similar role to plantorch
Yeah, they usually have to be eaten/zombies get close, and have plant food.
Love how he pronounce the letter R ❤