SLEEPING DOGS (Zero Punctuation)
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This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Sleeping Dogs.
Fast-talking Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw reviews a new game each week in this animated series that combines informed critique with cutting humor. Watch the next episode of Zero Punctuation a week early, only on The Escapist.
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He forgot to mention how the triads are always like "You sure are family Wei. You'll never betray us Wei. We're totally on the same side Wei.".
He really is the Wei.
I know.
Haha, yeah. This game made me feel like a total dick.
I thought they trusted wei cause he grew up with the thugs in HK
Siddhant Deep He did and they did.
Your jetpack argument is flawless.
@RaveTheDayAway "there isn't too many guns in HK" -gun tutorial mission character
I
@@utku1441 He wasn't wrong about that. Compared to GTA the amount of gun users was significantly less in this game. Most of the time Wei was solving problems with his fists only.
I liked the setting, the driving, the ability to action hijack, the rain, the music, the driving in the rain listening to the music in the setting and the kung fu.
Considering the development hell it went through we were lucky to have seen it at all and whilst it does not make it a better game it does make it understandable.
Agreed. Heres a cookie.
People can be far too nitpicky. This game was a gem. A flawed gem but still valuable.
this game was basically every HK action flick in one experience. i fuckin loved it!
guguigugu A playable HK action flick. That makes it even better.
It can be prefectly adapted in a HK action film, with Jet Li or Donnie Yen perfect for the role
And then the DLC is literally a HK flick!
That alone, makes it better than any GTA game, period.
Aiden Macleod there’s no helicopters tho and the map is pretty small
Wait a goddamn second... Why doesn't gta5 have jet packs? Rockstar, where the hell is my jet pack!
+muther1997 There is one. It's really hard to get.
+muther1997 Just play Just Cause 3 instead.
+MasterCheifn343 Underrated as fuck that game...
WH250398
Just Cause 3 underrated? Bullshit, everyone knows that game is amazing.
ManiacX1999
Reviews aren't high, and consumer ratings aren't that good either.
If nothing else, this game does have great atmosphere. Once I was riding my motorcycle through the rain with traditional Chinese music playing over the radio and I just stopped and looked around at the neon signs and buildings. Pretty much the only part of the game I still remember.
I actually loved Sleeping Dogs, the atmosphere was absolutely amazing. Sure, the gameplay wasn't the best, but it still played nicely, the melee system was great, and it looked beautiful, I might have to play it through again sometime soon.
what you fail to realize is that when it comes to Zero Punctuation, this is a fairly positive review.
*****
It seemed to be sort of neutral to negative to me, guess I didn't quite understand.
If this were another youtuber, I would agree. But this is Zero Punctuation, he is extremely critical and nitpickey about every game. The fact that he said anything positive at all is uncommon.
I'll take your word on that, Scootaloo
Yeah. I enjoyed it too. Really felt like Hong Kong and made me want to go back there.
I recently picked up the remastered version of this on my PS4, and despite what Yhatzee says here, it's gone on to become one of my favorite games of all time, against all odds.
He points out negatives as this is entertaining
Sleeping Dogs does it well because Batman can jump 20 feet to the next guy, with sleeping dogs you have to be clever about it, even though most of the time You'll do a running kick. I like doing the tackle though, hit 'em with a goldberg spear.
funny thing is you can tell when they like the game because of the soul fact they actually included positives even if they were subtle.
so did you play the whole game as Son Wukong to.
Q: Would you cap a bitch?
A. Fo sho
B. Naw mang
C. No because I am an undercover police officer
My fucking sides
2:52
"DYNAMIC EEEEEENNNNNNTRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!"
+Rayquaoxys3846 the countless memories of my cousin always spamming the fuck out of that move in Naruto one on one fighters came running back.
This is completely unrelated to the video, but I just got an ad with two dudes talking about random catchphrases in what i can only guess was a sports related show. they then proceeded to tell me that this was better than whatever i was about to watch on youtube. what a bunch of conceited cocks. how dare they insult yahtzee like that.
*loads shotgun and gets tracker*
Annnd now you know why I use Adblocker.
***** *crappy elevator music plays*
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IT'LL STOP ANDREW FROM USING YOUR ADVERTISEMENT AND ACTUALLY KILLING YOU.....RUUUUUUUUUUN!
AdBlocker "F**k those Andrews"
*My name is Andrew xD
This game was pretty great. There were some pretty ridiculous environmental kills lol. The driving mechanics were pretty dang fun too. The ramming thing is totally unrealistic but incredibly satisfying. And the scene where you're shooting out the pursuing cop car's tires causing them to fly into the air and explode was god-like. Lots of high moments in the story but the game feels kinda empty after the story is over.
I had this moment of leaping out of my car with a shotgun I had purloined from a cop car and as i aimed the gun and shot, time slowed down and I hit the back of my car which exploded in slow motion with beautiful blur effects. Amazing. Most games feel empty when the story is over. Well sandbox games anyway.
I really did like the "Pork Bun" guy in Sleeping Dogs.
I also liked that one brief surprise mission they had you do where you helped a guy out of the trunk of a car. Just so you can beat the shit out of him. What I did was I just kept putting him in the trunk of the car then out the trunk over and over again till I just put him in there and shot the car till it exploded. Kinda fun.
"oh you'll love it"
"A man who never eats pork buunn... is never a whooooooleee man!"
I was slightly disappointed when you couldn’t stuff the lady, who was clearly expecting her lover for some sexy time, back in the trunk when she started bitching at Wei for rescuing her.
Sleeping Dogs felt more cinematic and fluid than GTA 4.
definitely a more focused story, not random at times like GTA
"Takes guts to wear that!" Oh my fucking god I hate it when npcs say that it's like the only thing they can say
Sleeping Dogs may not have a jet pack, but it has pork buns, and everyone knows you're not a real man unless you have a pork bun in your hand.
I'm impressed that Yhatzee didn't mention that they used the same model for every NPC in the game.
Except they didn't...
***** Bad joke*
dekaron12 "i think its a bad joke so everyone else should!"
Erin Sol Yes they should. I'm glad there's sensible people like you around erin! Common sense is lost these days, you know?
But not to you buddy.
dekaron12 i like you.
I lost it at "buttered fuck crumpets."
2:54 Nothing in the game felt more satisfying.
rosserm11 Might Guy sends his regards.
I usually just jump out/off of my vehicle. Hell one time I cleared the first part of a drug bust mission using nothing but my car!
I once had a special place in my heart for Sleeping Dogs... Then I got introduced to the Yakuza series
Eh, there's room in that place in my heart for both.
"...but when a sandbox game is about a petty crim starting off in the slum district being used as a foot-stool by the local underworld's middle management, doing mostly vehicle related favors for increasingly important contacts until they can work their way up to wealth and success by knocking over enough lamp posts to illuminate Oprah Winfrey's inner thighs, then the term 'Grand Theft Auto clone' seems perfectly adequate, while 'petty-crim-foot-stool-vehicle-related-inner-thighs-'em-up' is too awkward to say." I died laughing
Duke Nukem 3D from 1997 had a jet pack too. lol.
Well then fuck gta sa!
Seems like everyone's got a jetpack these days...in that case WHY THE FUCK CANT I GET ONE DX
TheEndiPL nope.
klimpomp Inadequate calf shields.
+Juniper Piper Yeah, but Duke Nukem 3D is not in the same genre as GTA/True Crime/Sleeping Dogs.
The bit about the drug dealer detecting or lack of detecting was so true.
I don't think there's a single game that wouldn't be improved by the inclusion of a jetpack! :]
Alien isolation
Ahmad Alyahya I suppose an argument could be made for horror games where it would decrease the fear factor, but my I was being facetious in my comment! XD
+UlithiumDragon How about there isn't a single game that wouldn't be improved by the exclusion of pants?
+Andre Gon I think that (taking into account personal sexual preferences), this is a much better "blanket" statement! XD
Superman 64 couldn't be improved by a jet pack.
I picked up Sleeping Dogs yesterday an while it's good, the one thing that bugs me is the 'face level' system which restricts acess to items despite me already amassed 300'000 HKD, leaving me with a pile of money and very few ways of spending it unless I spend large quantities of time answering every little sidequest in the game... that and the combat can be ball-bustingly hard on occasion.
HO-ly a game which makes you play it? who knew??
CamembertRun but present outfits
Sleeping Dogs is so much better than GTAIV it's astonishing. Forget Jet packs. Sleeping Dogs has kung fu! GTAIV has a lot of style but as a kid I fell off go karts with better handling than the cars and the shooting is rubbish. sleeping dogs is the better game by far.
Still, IV has multiplayer and attack helicopters.
And don't forget airport tugs subway racing.
i have to say, every time i drive a car in sleeping dogs, i lose all my cop score because either the cars handle like poo or i am such a bad driver
*****
Does GTA let you shove a man's head in a toilet? No? Then calm down. Both games have their perks and drawbacks, so an argument's pointless.
i just fell in love win sleeping dogs when i figured out the dim mak and you can play majong poker, MAJONG POKER
Anthony G For me, it was when I put a guy on my shoulders in a fireman's carry then threw him off the bridge two stories down right on top of a car. I couldn't stop laughing. I went around just throwing people off of things.
Talking so much about the combat with glee is why he loves Yakuza so much
"flipping out the buttered fuck-crumpets"
yep.
please tell us i want to use it more often in conversations
This is a fucking fantastic game. Great music, great mood, great driving, great combat, everything about it is cool even the extra missions with the hell possessed people and the pork bun guy everyone loves.
Don't listen to the bring downs
Play and enjoy. I'm still enjoying it today!!!
The story was actually pretty good in a by the numbers Hong Kong action movie kind of way. Also unlike every GTA game the combat is actually fun and plays well.
"Yore under a vest."
I'm surprised he didn't talk about the God of War syndrome (O, O, ∆) where there's one really good combo that you use over and over again. As soon as you unlock the knee breaker that downs an enemy and makes every other enemy recoil in shock and disgust there's no reason to use any other attack. You'll even end up breaking the same knee like 3 times until it's just finely ground powder.
I want to reply to people's comments.
Reply to this one.
No, that's illegal.
Joseph Connell
;>)
Can't stop me, lawman.
Sir Ferglewergle What if it wasn't you who was replying, what if it was you're alternate ego, manipulating you through the power of youtube comments?
I'm surprise he didn't mention how useless money is in this game. I have one class A car and two class A bikes. Unless class S magically pops up, I have no further use for money.
They're expensive? But why would you take a taxi when you could drive a class A bike?
Can you buy guns in the game? How expensive are tehy compared to GTA 4?
DK6Marius I have yet to be able to buy one. Usually, the game gives you a gun when a fire fight is about to show its ugly head.
*SLIGHT SPOILER*
You get a gun at the end of the game and you can get a gun with one of the DLC packs as well.
MrRyangrrr That is not a spoiler. Not even slightly.
Sleeping dogs was a great experience imo, driving in the city at night under the rain with ninja tune radio on was the best feeling ever. F-ing beautiful
"Flipping out the buttered Fuck Crumpets"
There is nothing else to say about that, it's just awesome.
No Jet Pack?! *Flips table*
My GOTY 2012
Excellent point about the jetpack! I forgot that.
I almost died at the guy in the suit part because it is so true.
But sometimes there are more than one suit guy where you actually have to look at who is giving stuff or pointing a gun.
But yeah, if there's one suited guy it's way too easy.
[Furfagging Intensifies] I've never seen a more than one suit guy. Like, ever. And if there is. It's wither the guy with the gun or the guy with the stuff as you said or it's the guy who's is standing away from everyone else. But I never look for actions, I just look for a guy with a suit.
All games should have a jet pack.
nope it would definately be out of place in a game like assassin's creed
Barholtworld And having a DaVinci flying machine and a gun strapped to your wrist isn't.
the gun in 2 probably was, but the flying machine was just epic
Say I'd sure like to read some of these comment strings without opening 10 new windows. Or rely to some comments. Or check my inbox. Or flag some spam. I hate you Google+
Ok, so now my comment is the only one with a 'reply' or 'vote up/down' button underneath it. Is this system set up for foreveralones?
Wait, Why can I only reply to you?
thiscakeisFALSE I don't fucking know! It's so stupid, isn't it?
Google's new motto: "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is"
***** I think you can only reply to comments made before the update, because it'd be IMPOSSIBLE for us to reply to things without using G+... Oh wait...
***** I was thinking: "If it ain't broke, break its legs! That will teach the whiny bastards!"
Good times. One of my two Platinum Trophies👍🏻
Just playing it for the third time and still loving it.
2006 mode? challenge accepted
Sleeping Dogs has pork buns.
And who could forget that Sleeping Dogs caused a Team Fortress 2 update and caused the existence of PYROSHARKS?!
I love how the reaction sound for the criminal when Yahtzee is talking about Wei being an undercover cop is just SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE like he's some weird screechy alien.
San Andreas BEST Grand Theft Auto game, hands down. (close second and third being last two)
Vice city. San Andreas was long and boring
Yahtzee, Yahtzee, Yahtzee. Relax. I know you were provoked...
With his shoe tucked under his jaw like a violin LOL
if the video has issue try viewing it in a different browser. I swapped from chrome to MS edge and it worked.
With what we know now, killing civilians not making you lose your job as a Cop seems very realistic.
san andreas best game ever
Sleeping Dogs, as in "Let sleeping dogs lie", as in "Leave things as they are". Or at least I hope thats why its called sleeping dogs.
The title made sense. "Let sleeping dogs lie". Wei joined Sun On Yee to break it up but inevitably ended up killing its opposition and making it stronger.
I m one of the biggest GTA fanboys ever, so much so that I wouldn't even look at a game like Saints Row (ugh). I do however really like Sleeping Dogs. I enjoy the story, the characters and most of the gameplay. I would like a sequel with more polished gameplay so that it could rival the likes of the GTA games though.
***** Care to elaborate there buddy?
***** Hipster trash.
It's not as polished as Gta since they didn't nearly have the budget
Vic 2.0 I enjoyed certain aspects of the game more than GTA like the combat, the combat was excellent and took some tips from the Arkham games. The Driving was OK and the characters were pretty cool too. It can't quite reach the height of GTA to me because the scope and detail of GTA is remarkable. As I said, I would love to see another Sleeping Dogs though, it's a refreshing game to me and a solid 8/10.
Hell of a lot better than that trash of a game Watch Dogs. :)
***** did you Gta 5 pushed the medium forward in storytelling? No. Games such as Bioshock or The Last of Us pushed the medium forward in storytelling. Gta's character interaction was solid, great voice acting, good script, but it didn't do anything for storytelling. Any good story can have decent character development and voice acting for that matter.
Sometimes I wonder how companies can sell their games that have been reviewed by Yahtzee. Imagine you're wanting to buy a game, and you happen to find Yahtzee's review of it. You finish the review, and you're left with a very negative impression of it. Now I'm an old sceptic, but anyone could be easily fooled into thinking that this is awful, and because there's a sucker born every second the number of people watching this will reject that game. Now this idea applied to games like COD is good, but what about the really decent games that don't meet Yahtzee's impeccably high standards?
Especially because most people LOVED Sleeping Dogs.
TheMadScientistRael I mean absolutely no disrespect to Yahtzee. If anything, that comment was a criticism of sheeple who come with no concept of irony.
***** I actually very much use his reviews as a judge. After a while, you start to get a feel for when he actually likes games
People who watch his reviews would know whether he likes the game or not.
I never beat Sleeping Dogs. I was playing it and going "what am I doing?" I had no clue what the story line was anymore, and I had no clue what were missions I need to do, and how to progress whatever story line there was. I mean the melee was all I cared for. I mean heck even guns seemed to get in the way with trying to figure out how to carry them and what not (the PC port + Xbox 360 = bad controller layout).
Plus I bought the game and all the DLC super cheap from Steam. With that somehow I like maxed out all my stats right away making the game super easy, and lacking any progress, with the exception of those relics to learn new fighting moves
James IV You must have comprehension issues. The story's messy, yeah, but it's incredibly easy to understand. You're Wei Shen, you need to dismantle a triad organization by going undercover. you beat up a lot of people, eventually murder a lot of people, eventually dismantle the triad organization.
tylerboy565
LOL I would consider that more the concept then the story line.
Maybe that was the problem, the context was that light it really was just generic and bland
James IV Yeah, like I said, it's pretty messy, and over 60% of the game is definitely senseless padding to make the game longer, but never once did my true goal ever become unclear.
tylerboy565
LOL truth be told I couldn't remember which icon on the map progresses the story
James IV Don't drink the water, it makes you forget, I forgot how I even got here.
And yet, despite the lack of jet pack, Sleeping Dogs is one of two sandbox crime games I can keep coming back to and enjoy time and time again.
It's a better game than GTA4
Alright, let's put down the crack pipe and get back to reality.
Hunter Berger Reality sucks and I'd rather not keep getting reminded about it. Life's already boring enough as it is and the last thing I need is a game that proudly emulates the very kind of thing it's supposed to make fun of.
Case and point:
GTA IV is an exercise in boredom and mundanity.
supereldinho
Only if you're a boring person. IA game that lets me catapult out of a car windscreen into oncoming traffic to have me bounce off and mow down a bunch of pedestrians with my corpse, is not trying to emulate real life.
Anyone who thinks GTA IV is too serious just doesn't know how to make their own fun....
Dedfaction OR you can recreate the same experience during the Fraud Missions in Saints Row IV where you can get catapulted several blocks away after which the game will reward you for being this crazy. In which case, I do find ways to make my own fun which doesn't restrict itself to just mowing down pedestrians with my corpse. I won't back away from my statement, GTA IV is too serious and compared to other, MORE exciting sandbox games like Prototype, Infamous and Saints Row, it IS boring.
"[Sleeping Dogs is] a title that makes no sense"
No, it's from the phrase "Sleeping Dogs Don't Lie", which more or less sums up the message you mentioned towards the beginning. Would have thought you'd have figured that out Yahtzee
There's no such phrase.
esl-bits.net/idioms/id373.htm
took about two seconds of googling to find that, just because you've never HEARD it doesn't mean it hasn't been used m8
Bob bobson You do realise that the page you linked me to doesn't actually back up what you said, don't you? The phrase is "let sleeping dogs lie" (which Yahtzee does actually acknowledge in the end credits), not "sleeping dogs don't lie".
Regardless, the title makes perfect sense
I quite liked the Triad joke as I'm from Northern Ireland, and it's on the local news quite a lot...
This, Saints Row 2 and 3, and Shadow of Mordor are part of my regular sandbox-em-up rotation.
I can kinda tell from the description game has bad writing. Even the new "Watch Dogs" (is it sequel?!) sounds like it has bad writing, despite the game looking flipping amazing. Jesus, hire some laid-off Bioware writers from "Old Republic." YOU CAN'T WRITE THINGS VERY WELL, GAME DEV. Japan's whole GDP is suffering because their companies can't hire competent fucking writers.
Watchdogs doesn't have anything to do with this one, it's Ubisoft Montreal that are making Watchdogs I believe and it's a new IP. You're still right about the story though, from what I've heard so far Watchdogs doesn't seem that interesting storywise. Hopefully when it's released there will be more in depth stuff but I originally thought the game was about a random vigilante who was just sick of crime so took it upon himself to make the world a better place - from what's been said so far it just sounds like another generic revenge plot.
Sleeping Dogs is an unofficial entry in the True Crime series, it has nothing to do with Watch Dogs.
Watch Errant Signal's take on this and realize how wrong you are when you said "I can kinda tell from the description game has bad writing".
Actually, Watch_Dogs has a good story. Slightly.
Basically you play as Aiden Pierce, A former criminal that knows how to hack n' stuff. This one day, His daughter or someone was killed by 2 people on motorcycles so now Aiden has serious trust issues and he super protects the rest of his family. Heck, This one time he got prank called and he freaking KILLED the guy that did it. Anyways, Feel his story unravel as you play through compelling missions (Not sarcasm) and hack freaking HELICOPTERS TO MAKE THEM EXPLODE.
Micheal Morris So basically Batman minus the cowl, martial arts, and no killing rule.
He already has made a few, they're on his wikipedia-page if you're interested.
this game has loads of potential, hopefully they make a sequel and improve on it whilst retaining it's identity
"Let sleeping dogs lie" would also seem the be the message of this video.
ikr it was 5 year and still i remember it and it will visit your dreams but there are very original skins out there almost every thing even a toilet
It has been 9 years since and jetpacks have all but disappeared from open world sandbox games...
I think the unscrewing screws thing basically is just a time wasting thing, makes you feel more tense because you get to WATCH the timer count down while you do it
I love the "SCREEEEEEECH" a la Invasion of the Bodysnatchers 1978. xD
That last bit seemed like a school yard popularity contest. "San Andreas has a jetpack. Do YOU have a jetpack? No? Better luck next time!"
He forgot to mention the amazing far with turrets and emp charge and super fast speed!
When I first heard of the game I thought the title referred to the saying "let sleeping dogs lie."
"You could get some enjoyment out of it once you're used to it, but until then it's painful to even look at."
Same can be said for any flying vehicle in San Andreas. Flying a plane is such a pain in the ass in those games before you get the hang of it. But once you do get the hang of the jackpack it's fun.
That last reference about the jetpack i feel was negated by the fact that he also was talking about gta 4 which also doesn't have a jetpack.
Yes
Omg haha, so glad you put in the clothes shop bit, that guy always mocks me so I kick his face in.
Man you really like your jet packs in open world games.
these videos crack me up so much actually laughing out loud, its awwwwesome xD
I really want to make a Sandbox Game where the organisation you work for gives you a jetpack, and when the player character asks why they gave him a jetpack, the said person who gives it to him responds with "I dunno, something about some guy named Yahtzee taking charge of Tech Labs and demanding them."
I want that book...
He did say it in an interview. I was watching all you history belongs to us valve and he said it.
I really liked this game. It was free on the Xbox 360 a while back and I decided to try it. I enjoyed the combat, the driving, and the story. Only real problem was the writing and karaoke minigame which I still kind of enjoyed.
Dude, I completely thought it would be like superman type flying jet pack. Not like some strange hovering thing. Now if it could switch between the two modes it would have been beyond amazing.
Woah that image you left me with. wow
I'd say the "Does Sleeping Dogs have a jetpack?" metric should be universally applied, but there are a lot of favorite genres of mine that would disappear if that were to happen. It's sad how many fantastic subgenres have been reduced from "I sure hope this kind of game progresses and gets more polished!" to "I sure hope this kind of game EXISTS AGAIN at some point in the future."
You two made my brain pop.
and when I got there I thought wow its like mirrors edge but every time you vault over something wei stops in his tracks and begins sprinting again kind of taking the point out of free running. when ever I try to jump over a high wall I run at it and wei skilfully wall runs and grabs the top of the wall. he then decides that there is invisible barbed wire on this wall and hes gonna have to go though the gate that's 200m away.
Actually, Twilight Princess was on the Gamecube originally. They decided though that it should also port it to their then-new Wii to show off what it could do. But yea, TP on the Wii is a port.
i'm kinda surprised he didnt mention that you can side step with cars
+Jasin Tizzard That alone has made me want this game.
Never has a phrase so perfectly captured modern day bare knuckle kung-fu fighting than "Flipping out the buttered fuck-crumpets".
This sounded so oddly and surprisingly possitive lol
i watch these for three reasons 1 his voice 2 his reviews 3 hes so damn FUNNY
One of the best games I've played this year.
Flying around Las Venturas on a jetpack is the only time in my life I've pissed away two hours accomplishing nothing in a video game and not getting bored.
I think the "let sleeping dogs lie" thing is to do with Wei's past, how he used to be friends with most of the people who are now in the triads and how it brings up old issues, etc. But I can't pretend to care coz it has my favourite fighty mechanics and I've played it so much I find myself charging into baddies in the Batman games and wondering why all I do is punch the nearest guy instead of a bicycle kick him across the city :P
That fucking wedding. How am I expected to contain all of these emotions?
Twilight Princess was released on Gamecube and Wii. Yes, both
you're my new hero in life