Die schöne GeeBee. Da das Video von 2012 ist kann ich freudig vermelden das sie wieder fliegt. Die Musik am Anfang kommt , wer hätte das gedacht, vom weißen Hai. "Jaws Theme" von Amc Orchestra.
Because there were only a handful made, and they were very successful, meaning they were employed in the extremely dangerous realm of low-altitude air racing until the eventually were crashed or damaged to badly to fix. And of course people like to focus on the negative; it;s like how people still only talk about the F-104 as a "dangerous aircraft", and never talk about all the F-104s that DIDN'T crash, which were the majority. Same idea though, big engine + small plane, sacrifices were made for the sake of performance, and a pilot could wreck one by not paying close enough attention. The planes rarely crashed themselves.
justforever96 hard to say it was a good plane when literally all low/single wing GeeBees crashed. The only ones that survived were 2 of the biplanes they built that were a completely different design. It’s a shit plane but cool I guess.
Oh, it’s none of those things. It’s the fact that the airfield is on a higher level, and when he came down, he was behind the hill. He ran into the hill right before the landing strip. Wow that’s a shame that was a beautiful aircraft will build another one. Will see you shortly with a new one.
I looked at the landing 3 times and we must remember airspeed is everything..... The plane had a very heavy engine upfront whereby increasing the wing loading.... practice to fly your planes in and you will never have this issue. I see this thing happening too many times on my field also .... we all tend to land these high wing loading planes too slow.... they simply fall out of the sky and slam on the landing strip
Way too short of the runway! This could have been avoided if the pilot had flown more responsibly and taken greater care in his landing approach! The plane was way under its required speed for the wing loading! What a shame!!!
Wasn't lack of airspeed, basically he flew it into the ground. i took a close look at the landing and right before impact, no elevator movement up to flare. I have flown RC for 25 years. The take off was an indication that this plane didn't have that high of a wing loading. Radio failure, linkage failure or dumb thumb. I did watch another video of him landing this plane, he definitely doesn't do the greatest landings.
You don't flare Gee Bee's especially the R1/R2 descent is throttle controlled, with rudder correction judging air speed at that distance is pretty dicey. Most GB touchdowns occur pretty close to the pilot if not pass the pilot you got to see the airspeed. The wing loading and pitch sensitivity is just crazy.
@@jeffs7915 Descent is throttle controlled, watch Delmar Benjamin landing a full size GeeBee Z. There is a distinctive flare before touch down, then elevator is relaxed and down elevator fed in on the rollout as speed is bled off, but we are talking about a model here and poor throttle, elevator management and basically flying it into the ground. Very few people i've seen flying RC planes are good at flying them especially landings and takeoffs.
Said the same thing no Flare just what seems like a left aileron bank but no elevator went up. Air speed was alive, that was just piloting error. He flew that directly into the ground with down elevator even 5% flare could’ve saved the aircraft.
@@tonywright8294 But these models are just Scaled down versions of the same flight characteristics and principles, aviation and flight elevator, rudder, ailerons you can see flaps Ect Ect on certain fully scaled RC models, but the basic flight characteristic same when flying these models.
My father watched these at the Cleveland Air Races in the 1930's. IIRC, he built 2 models, a red + white and a blue + yellow. The plane looks and sounds great, unfortunate that it imitated the real ones so well. Hope it got rebuilt. After I was born, he took me to the postwar Cleveland races, they told me that at around 4 years old, I was examining the engines close up while they were running. Guess I was hooked then.
I remember reading about mothers telling their pilot soldiers to “fly low and slow son” as they went off to war. You can certainly forget that with the GeeBee.
I often have this issue, which with this large model is compounded, depth perception when the background is too uniform. It is sometimes difficult to tell the planes true position.
I model fly myself. Taking off is not nearly as hard as landing. Especially with a heavy plane such as a Gee Bee. I have a P-47, which is also heavy and hard to land. You need to come in “Hot.” I Broke the landing gear on my first landing attempt.
I have two GeeBees radio control R2 models . You have to trim them for landing .That is nose high so that they fly safely above stall speed with no elevator input and with the throttle controlling sink rate . Fly a full circuit and then reduce throttle on down wind to be nice and slow and low enough to drag her in on throttle alone without any elevator input . Aim for n three pointer and when inches above runway reduce throttle slowly and round out elevator to allow her to settle .Close throttle pull back on stick and be wake up with rudder because they love to groundloop ! If she bounces hold nose up never stick forward hooe for tte best .If bounce is too high feed in throttle ,go around and try again. You must be hapoy with approach before the landing .If in doubt go around .I have done 6 approaches and more before finally landing ! Such a satisfying achievement to properly land a GeeBee . I love them !!!
As soon as i started watching this ,i said im not a fan of these type of aircraft, but she preformed well,sounded great just new she was going to crash, sorry for ya loss mate ,heart breaking 🤙
She looks pretty repairable from here gentlemen. But obviously looks can be deceiving ! This is a very difficult plane to fly to be sure ! A gorgeous plane ! Would be interested to know if you have her repaired, and back in the air yet ?
Hi, this plane is notdifficult to fly! The pilot have no problems with it. Only the place is not his homebase. The place is uphill and so he came down to early. Geebee is already airborn! And flyes and flyes..... Sorry for my bad English :-)
@@da_rene2307 Good to know fellas ! Glad repairs are made, and back in the air ! Not to worry about your English, it is my native language, and I still struggle with it ! Beyond that, I am only able to speak English, and American English at that ! I struggled to attempt to learn Spanish years ago, and failed miserably ! Thanks for the update gentlemen ! Happy flying !
As this may be pilot error, the field has a depression marked by the traffic cones, the landing gear and part of the wing hits the ditch and is sheered, ripped apart. Reminds me of the top of a barb wire fence I hit with my landing gear on my 60 size P-40 Warhawk, Mine fared much better than this poor fella.
The title is redundant. Just type "Gee Bee" and we know it crashed. Seriously, great flying until the end. Hard to have enough depth perception when the plane is flying towards you.
Sheer stupidity of the pilot. Before i make any acrobatics i study the field in several approaches in patterns of approach and emergency landing exercise before any idea of any show effect. There was enough hight and enough time to manage the glide path properly.
I thought they meant the 1932 Lowell Baile crash. I had it on a VCR tape but my player finally quit. He was trying for a speed record and the one wing folded up.
Crashes just like the real Gee Bee. The real plane killed almost everyone who tried to fly it. Of the 9 planes that were built, there were 15 accidents and ten fatalities in a short period of time. Only one plane survives today.
He just came in to low, he was below the landing field it looked like to me. I've done it myself. Of course that aircraft has a high stall speed and high landing speed but if ya drag the gear off before ya get to the strip none of that matters.
I see many that can fly these very good but when it comes down to landing them, that seems to always be the real challenge. Sorry to see this happen. Was a beautiful plane.
Bei meiner GeeBee lande ich mit Tempo bei waagerechtem Anflug. Trotzdem hüpft sie . Sie muß lange glatt ausrollen können, dann klappt es nur. Hier zog der Pilot einmal zu früh am Höhenruder, er war noch zu hoch, dadurch sackte sie ab und der Winkel wurde zu steil. Das Fahrwerk ist steif und hat keine Federung, leider.
I don't know anything about aero dynamics but this thing just looks like it has too much body and not enough wing. Just a huge engine with a stubby little body stuck onto it.
Added to which there's no pilot's eye view as an RC operator --you are landing almost blind. This remote factor contributes to the incidents in the air where the op pulls excessive G but can't feel it building up because they are stood in a field holding a transmitter. Result- disintegration. I still think RC choppers and RC fixed wing shouldn't be airborne simultaneously on an event day. We've seen what happens.
I assume that you are a skilled model plane pilot, but that comment doesn't match with the experience of a lot of us that have been flying RC for decades.
What a shame, anyway you'd built a beautiful model and except for the accident it's obvious that you knew how to fly it, I could see that from some of your maneuvers. Hope you try again!
Have been flying R/C since the 90's and have seen this too many times before. What's typical is an older guy who's Building Skills are inversely proportional to his Flying Skills. Some of the best Scale Builders know this and will find someone w/ the talents to manage a Maiden Flight on a new Aircraft. At the really Big R/C Meets there was always some guy who would choose to Maiden his 3+ year long Scale Project plane at that Event, which isn't allowed under AMA Rules here in America. And, there was usually a pretty good chance something would go wrong on a Maiden Flight. Yea, watchin some guys Dream Scale Project smack into the planet too hard isn't fun to watch.
I'm pretty sure the original GBee had a 9 cylinder PW it has been a great engine first designed in 1920's now still being used in cropdusting. I flew behind them for 2700 hrs before moving up to PW pt6 turbines. Sorry about model
I thought they meant the 1932 Lowell Baile crash. I had it on a VCR tape but my player finally quit. He was trying for a speed record and the one wing folded up.
Feel sorrie for aircraft .Never looked like the pilot prepared for landing .No last curcuit with aircraft trimmed in landing configuration .Looks like it ran out of airspeed and list height abd instead of feeding in power more up elevator was dualked in .Aircraft stalled and hit the ground ! RIP GeeBee Z !!!
I have lots of experience in crashing airplanes. When I was first starting I’d take a garbage sack with me to help carry all the bits home. I even crashed one with me in it. So I think he let it get too slow. Also looks like he stalled it.
The real life aircraft was notoriously dangerous and difficult to fly. Only three were built, and two of them claimed the lives of their pilots; only Jimmy Doolittle flew the Gee Bee and lived to tell about it.
The words Gee Bee and crash usually appear in the same sentence.
Because there were only a handful made, and they were very successful, meaning they were employed in the extremely dangerous realm of low-altitude air racing until the eventually were crashed or damaged to badly to fix. And of course people like to focus on the negative; it;s like how people still only talk about the F-104 as a "dangerous aircraft", and never talk about all the F-104s that DIDN'T crash, which were the majority. Same idea though, big engine + small plane, sacrifices were made for the sake of performance, and a pilot could wreck one by not paying close enough attention. The planes rarely crashed themselves.
billville111 Ha Ha. I like that. You may be closer to the truth than you think.
justforever96 hard to say it was a good plane when literally all low/single wing GeeBees crashed. The only ones that survived were 2 of the biplanes they built that were a completely different design. It’s a shit plane but cool I guess.
What the heck... looks like the runway changes levels...?
Not a good flying field.
Oh, it’s none of those things. It’s the fact that the airfield is on a higher level, and when he came down, he was behind the hill. He ran into the hill right before the landing strip. Wow that’s a shame that was a beautiful aircraft will build another one. Will see you shortly with a new one.
That is one SAVAGE threshold your field has........and it's only HALF an aeroplane to rebuild at least
Pilot error
I also had a smaller version of this. They land at cruise speed .... beautiful models but hard to fly just like the real one
Might as well take a brick and strap a motor to it it would probably fly better
Absolutely, lose concentration or disrespect the unique design of the airframe and that's it.
pilot has no depth perception?
I guess mishaps can happen to anyone...many he was trying to nail it (Sry for my bad english)
I looked at the landing 3 times and we must remember airspeed is everything..... The plane had a very heavy engine upfront whereby increasing the wing loading.... practice to fly your planes in and you will never have this issue. I see this thing happening too many times on my field also .... we all tend to land these high wing loading planes too slow.... they simply fall out of the sky and slam on the landing strip
I guess the pilons marked the edge of a grade... it seems the pilot steers the model directly into the grade instead of the plain meadow!
I would think flaps would help.
it's a huge ass model, why not add flaps?
How could you possibly know it’s wing loading ?
@@davidjacobs8558what’s a huge ass model?
@@tonywright8294simple. Look at the wing area v weight
Way too short of the runway! This could have been avoided if the pilot had flown more responsibly and taken greater care in his landing approach! The plane was way under its required speed for the wing loading! What a shame!!!
Wasn't lack of airspeed, basically he flew it into the ground. i took a close look at the landing and right before impact, no elevator movement up to flare. I have flown RC for 25 years. The take off was an indication that this plane didn't have that high of a wing loading. Radio failure, linkage failure or dumb thumb. I did watch another video of him landing this plane, he definitely doesn't do the greatest landings.
You don't flare Gee Bee's especially the R1/R2 descent is throttle controlled, with rudder correction judging air speed at that distance is pretty dicey. Most GB touchdowns occur pretty close to the pilot if not pass the pilot you got to see the airspeed. The wing loading and pitch sensitivity is just crazy.
@@jeffs7915 Descent is throttle controlled, watch Delmar Benjamin landing a full size GeeBee Z. There is a distinctive flare before touch down, then elevator is relaxed and down elevator fed in on the rollout as speed is bled off, but we are talking about a model here and poor throttle, elevator management and basically flying it into the ground. Very few people i've seen flying RC planes are good at flying them especially landings and takeoffs.
Said the same thing no Flare just what seems like a left aileron bank but no elevator went up. Air speed was alive, that was just piloting error. He flew that directly into the ground with down elevator even 5% flare could’ve saved the aircraft.
It’s a model ,nothing to do with the real thing !
@@tonywright8294 But these models are just Scaled down versions of the same flight characteristics and principles, aviation and flight elevator, rudder, ailerons you can see flaps Ect Ect on certain fully scaled RC models, but the basic flight characteristic same when flying these models.
good pilot, a misjudgement with distance perception, plus an ugly threshold on the field. Any one can and will do this.
My father watched these at the Cleveland Air Races in the 1930's. IIRC, he built 2 models, a red + white and a blue + yellow.
The plane looks and sounds great, unfortunate that it imitated the real ones so well. Hope it got rebuilt.
After I was born, he took me to the postwar Cleveland races, they told me that at around 4 years old, I was examining the engines close up while they were running. Guess I was hooked then.
My father talked about them also.
Looks 👀 like he hit a ditch! 😮 Expensive mishap!
This looks like the Gee Bee from the 1991 movie, “The Rocketeer.”
Obviously a competent model pilot. I have forgotten to level off when landing my Maxford Gee Bee , Duh!
Too bad. I'm sure it's been rebuilt by now.
I remember reading about mothers telling their pilot soldiers to “fly low and slow son” as they went off to war. You can certainly forget that with the GeeBee.
I often have this issue, which with this large model is compounded, depth perception when the background is too uniform. It is sometimes difficult to tell the planes true position.
True and of course the camera had the advantage of zoom which the pilot didn't.
I'm not a pilot but looks like the angle of descent was a bit too steep...
I model fly myself. Taking off is not nearly as hard as landing. Especially with a heavy plane such as a Gee Bee. I have a P-47, which is also heavy and hard to land. You need to come in “Hot.” I Broke the landing gear on my first landing attempt.
and not short
DEeMON For Sure. That Too.
"Missed it by that much" Agent 86.
Did he survive? Was he ejected?
Das tut mehr sehr leid. Möglicherweise kann man das tolle Modellflugzeug wieder reparieren. Alles Gute!
That was a SHOCK!!! Fabulous build and sound. Thanks, Paul Thailand
I have two GeeBees radio control R2 models . You have to trim them for landing .That is nose high so that they fly safely above stall speed with no elevator input and with the throttle controlling sink rate . Fly a full circuit and then reduce throttle on down wind to be nice and slow and low enough to drag her in on throttle alone without any elevator input . Aim for n three pointer and when inches above runway reduce throttle slowly and round out elevator to allow her to settle .Close throttle pull back on stick and be wake up with rudder because they love to groundloop !
If she bounces hold nose up never stick forward hooe for tte best .If bounce is too high feed in throttle ,go around and try again. You must be hapoy with approach before the landing .If in doubt go around .I have done 6 approaches and more before finally landing !
Such a satisfying achievement to properly land a GeeBee .
I love them !!!
As soon as i started watching this ,i said im not a fan of these type of aircraft, but she preformed well,sounded great just new she was going to crash, sorry for ya loss mate ,heart breaking 🤙
Maybe something in the title, gave it away?
She looks pretty repairable from here gentlemen.
But obviously looks can be deceiving !
This is a very difficult plane to fly to be sure !
A gorgeous plane !
Would be interested to know if you have her repaired, and back in the air yet ?
Hi, this plane is notdifficult to fly! The pilot have no problems with it. Only the place is not his homebase. The place is uphill and so he came down to early. Geebee is already airborn! And flyes and flyes.....
Sorry for my bad English :-)
@@da_rene2307
Good to know fellas !
Glad repairs are made, and back in the air !
Not to worry about your English, it is my native language, and I still struggle with it !
Beyond that,
I am only able to speak English, and
American English at that !
I struggled to attempt to learn Spanish years ago, and failed miserably !
Thanks for the update gentlemen !
Happy flying !
You forgot to yell landing.
Wow! Just like the real thing! Even crashed the same!
As this may be pilot error, the field has a depression marked by the traffic cones, the landing gear and part of the wing hits the ditch and is sheered, ripped apart. Reminds me of the top of a barb wire fence I hit with my landing gear on my 60 size P-40 Warhawk, Mine fared much better than this poor fella.
They put those cones at the end of the runway for a very good reason.
The title is redundant. Just type "Gee Bee" and we know it crashed. Seriously, great flying until the end. Hard to have enough depth perception when the plane is flying towards you.
somewhat historically accurate
Nice flying, beautiful job on an unusual subject. The approach was a little low and slow. Overall, nice job
Luckily the toy pilot, although shaken up, wasn't injured and refused treatment at the scene.
Klaus Froba (pilot) turn in your pilots' license!
Sheer stupidity of the pilot. Before i make any acrobatics i study the field in several approaches in patterns of approach and emergency landing exercise before any idea of any show effect. There was enough hight and enough time to manage the glide path properly.
I thought they meant the 1932 Lowell Baile crash. I had it on a VCR tape but my player finally quit. He was trying for a speed record and the one wing folded up.
Well landing short into a berm will do that.
Sink rate......sink rate......sink rate....
Amazing model. Probably not the easiest to land obviously. I wonder how the real one handled.
Crashes just like the real Gee Bee. The real plane killed almost everyone who tried to fly it. Of the 9 planes that were built, there were 15 accidents and ten fatalities in a short period of time. Only one plane survives today.
He just came in to low, he was below the landing field it looked like to me. I've done it myself. Of course that aircraft has a high stall speed and high landing speed but if ya drag the gear off before ya get to the strip none of that matters.
What of a waste, too much money too little skills
Oh crap, that sux 😥. It glides like a Possum falling from a tree.
I see many that can fly these very good but when it comes down to landing them, that seems to always be the real challenge. Sorry to see this happen. Was a beautiful plane.
He zigged when he should have zagged
Bei meiner GeeBee lande ich mit Tempo bei waagerechtem Anflug.
Trotzdem hüpft sie .
Sie muß lange glatt ausrollen können, dann klappt es nur.
Hier zog der Pilot einmal zu früh am Höhenruder, er war noch zu hoch, dadurch sackte sie ab und der Winkel wurde zu steil.
Das Fahrwerk ist steif und hat keine Federung, leider.
Could be the camera angle but imo he was a reckless flyer. A model of that size and power should never be flown towards the crowd.
I don't know anything about aero dynamics but this thing just looks like it has too much body and not enough wing. Just a huge engine with a stubby little body stuck onto it.
I keep telling myself. It's just a matter of perspective. :P
All the usual experts know everything about the crash. Wankers know fuchsia all
Those are funny looking planes.
Gee Bee's are widow makers. They are high drag low lift racing planes that have to be flown and landed fast. Cool, but very unforgiving planes.
Like I said, very much like the F-104. But nothing wrong with them as long as they were flown properly.
Added to which there's no pilot's eye view as an RC operator --you are landing almost blind. This remote factor contributes to the incidents in the air where the op pulls excessive G but can't feel it building up because they are stood in a field holding a transmitter. Result- disintegration. I still think RC choppers and RC fixed wing shouldn't be airborne simultaneously on an event day. We've seen what happens.
It’s a model not. The real thing you can’t compare the two !
Beegee flies badly. Just one look tells It all
That's my problem, I can build them, just can't fly them. Lol
You'd think by the time an RC pilot got up to spend THIS much money on a plane he'd know how to land.
I assume that you are a skilled model plane pilot, but that comment doesn't match with the experience of a lot of us that have been flying RC for decades.
@@andyrbush Yeah, I'm pretty good, and I've had my share of crashes. How about we blame the runway and call it even?
@@tomsawyer9403 It was never my fault I crashed in the 60 years I have been flying model plans. Ah hem.
No up elevator at all ? With a heavy model like this, you don't slam into the ground
Could a baby be trained to fly this plane? Really get his pilot's license?
Landings of full scale designs like this killed a number of pilots, required skill learned in practice and some luck during practice.
gary ~ BeeGee R2 = fast little ugly fella [FLUF] not made for landing just airspeed.
What a shame, anyway you'd built a beautiful model and except for the accident it's obvious that you knew how to fly it, I could see that from some of your maneuvers. Hope you try again!
Yep he proved he knew how to fly, all the way to the crash site!!!:-)
People crash them all the time. Then just put all the stuff in another airframe.
Perhaps a gust of wind, everything looked great until . . .
Beautiful beautiful sound graceful in the air
Have been flying R/C since the 90's and have seen this too many times before. What's typical is an older guy who's Building Skills are inversely proportional to his Flying Skills. Some of the best Scale Builders know this and will find someone w/ the talents to manage a Maiden Flight on a new Aircraft.
At the really Big R/C Meets there was always some guy who would choose to Maiden his 3+ year long Scale Project plane at that Event, which isn't allowed under AMA Rules here in America. And, there was usually a pretty good chance something would go wrong on a Maiden Flight. Yea, watchin some guys Dream Scale Project smack into the planet too hard isn't fun to watch.
As the say the take off is optional, the landing is mandatory. Make sure you can do that part as well!
Too low too slow such a beautiful plane and engine....rebuild it please..
Looks like it was being flown too slow due to the sink rate at the end.....
Interestingly, whenever you google Gee Bee, predictive text automatically fills in the word "crash" immediately after.
inotherwords, they're just as hard to fly as the real ones!!!
Another hot-shot pilot who can't land.....
sie FLIEGT wieder??
Bitte zeigen!!
TUVO SUERTE EL PILOTO,QUE ESTABA FUERA DEL AVIÓN......
I'm pretty sure the original GBee had a 9 cylinder PW it has been a great engine first designed in 1920's now still being used in cropdusting. I flew behind them for 2700 hrs before moving up to PW pt6 turbines. Sorry about model
he dumbed thumbed that one in
I thought they meant the 1932 Lowell Baile crash. I had it on a VCR tape but my player finally quit. He was trying for a speed record and the one wing folded up.
The worst designed airplane EVER.
Feel sorrie for aircraft .Never looked like the pilot prepared for landing .No last curcuit with aircraft trimmed in landing configuration .Looks like it ran out of airspeed and list height abd instead of feeding in power more up elevator was dualked in .Aircraft stalled and hit the ground !
RIP GeeBee Z !!!
Break out the Elmer's.
Lowell Bales just rolled over in his grave!
little too much AOA
I have lots of experience in crashing airplanes. When I was first starting I’d take a garbage sack with me to help carry all the bits home. I even crashed one with me in it. So I think he let it get too slow. Also looks like he stalled it.
Not ONE touch and go???????? Deserved!
That's going to cost a few bucks. Sometimes fun cost a few bucks what can you say😮
Great model great flight shitty ass landing
A naughty donkey on the run ... I was already on my toes .. just watching the flying . Mr. Mulligan might suit my nerves better :)
The least enjoyable part of an enjoyable hobby
Scheisse
Were there any survivors?!?!
zu früh aufgesetzt und quer noch .. eieiiei wieder aufgebaut ?
Those were death traps in real life also.
Landing is 90 percent of the flight... that was horrible.
Oops, learn from mistakes.
My gee bee Model Y is one of my easiest planes to fly, land, and knife edge. Hope I never crash it. Poor guy
Toast please mother may I have another
volo preciosamente Lastima ...
What a heartbreak! And the pilot was clearly skilled and capable.
Sometimes, things just don't go your way. 😔💔
Yeah clearly skilled and capable, that’s why he crashed😂😂
I don't think the GeeBee was designed to be landed.
@@wallywally8282 Spoken like someone without a clue.
The real life aircraft was notoriously dangerous and difficult to fly. Only three were built, and two of them claimed the lives of their pilots; only Jimmy Doolittle flew the Gee Bee and lived to tell about it.
@@My_Fair_Lady You would be wrong according to the FAA. Even a kid flying a toy drone in his back yard is a pilot by FAA definition.
5:03...you're welcome.
A very sad sight to see.
Controlled flight into terrain?
Go to 5:04 and save your time.
A down-burst at the final is what everybody should fear and take into account with sufficient height and lift.
Did it get fixed? I can't believe the prop didn't get broken.
Faltou dedo do piloto ?'