Pixar's Soul Did Something INCREDIBLE... But...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ธ.ค. 2020
- Soul is a beautiful, movie and mature tale. It'll be remembered as thematically one of Pixar's best. But as much as I enjoyed MOST of the film, there's something that really brought it down for me. I'm sorry.
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Just a little detail I enjoyed was how 22 got her final spark to go to Earth. Literally every famous, intellectual, and intelligent human being tried to persuade her to try, but it was Joe, a normal person with no major accomplishments, that finally did it. It’s because 22 wasn’t interested in the big, wonderful things to be somebody. Instead she was interested in the small things in life that everyone overlooks, including Joe, introduced by him unintentionally
This.
man, that’s gooood
What's interesting is that those higher beings keep choosing doctors and other famous folks to try to get the souls to embrace life. Even though the movie didn't show it, I suspect that in all the conversations soul 22 had with her previous mentors, that the mentors never stated what they enjoyed or got out of life. Soul 22 who was adamant about not living was being counseled by people who already accepted their deaths...until Joe showed up. In any case, I feel like it's one of those cases where the best education is through experience. Soul 22 was never going to embrace life until it experienced which is a catch 22 which I just now realized as I typed this sentence is very likely the reason why that soul has that number............well there ya go. Anywho, I suspect those higher beings will start picking different people to be mentors. Joe wouldn't have been the type of person to become a mentor because his life was so ordinary. Soul 22 kept pointing that out and wondered why anyone would want to go back to a life like that....a life that didn't seem worth living.....or maybe...worth watching. But I thought this was a good watch in all in all.
@@weakvsfire interesting take on the mentors.
I still don't understand what you meant about the number 22?
@@yasharora1228 Oh I might have forgotten to type what I was thinking accurately. I was just realizing that Soul 22's issue is a catch-22. This is defined as a dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions. Soul 22 has that problem. Souls get to go to Earth to live when they've embraced the idea of living. The only way 22 was going to embrace the idea of living would be to actually experience life. It donned on me that this is the reason why the writers named the Soul number 22. It's because of the catch-22 situation the soul has.
The emotional ( makes you cry scene) scene is the part where he’s on the piano having flashbacks, realizing that he’s been living life this whole time and enjoying it without realizing. Now that’s Pixar
I got teary eyed as well lol
LOL
Me too
Onward did that better when Ian realized his brother filled the role he wanted his dad to fill his whole life and has the flashback sequence while he checks off his list.
Well I cried when Joe got eaten by 22 and we could hear her thoughts and feelings
"Is nobody bothered by Joe walking around in a hospital gown? Really?"
You have never been to New York.
Stolen
@@Screw_ONTOP people are allowed to have the same thought, you ass.
@@Screw_ONTOP stolen, is stolen
@@fireking0531 If two people say "I liked the video" in the comments, one person isn't copying another. Certain sentences are just easy to come up with.
@@daifuku1948 its a joke, thats my point with it lol
“I heard this story about a fish. He swims up to an older fish and says: “I’m trying to find this thing they call the ocean.” “The ocean?” the older fish says, “that’s what you’re in right now.” “This”, says the young fish, “this is water. What I want is the ocean!”
Joe: *contemplating meaning of life and recognizing what his life is and has been*
Dorothea: F I S H
What
@@DarwinskiYT Basically, the morale of this little story is to open your eyes and look around... and enjoy where you are.
That was actually a really good message. What I love about this movie is that it doesn’t just help children, it can help adults too.
Hmm in spanish they call it the Horizon so it made a lot more sense to me. The horizon is like a beautiful mystery that seems luring but we forget it's just more of the same water.
"Does no one really care about Joe walking around in a hospital gown?" Clearly Dazz has never been to NYC.
Hah that's what I said!
dude even I'M not from NYC (born and raised Arizonan) and I'm like "yeah that's probs an average thing for a new yorker to see" lol no wonder so many superheroes like Spider-Man and the Ninja Turtles live in NYC shit like that is normal over there lol
That's just NY in general, its wild up here
@@TheRibottoStudios I'm not sure if it's just "there's a bunch of weirdos here", but also a dash of apathy for someone I don't know thrown in.
Really,so no one cares there?
Honestly I don't really care about if this movie worked well for kids, it was my favorite pixar movie in a decade
Yea I liked it alot
Yesss I loved it and I’m in middle school
agreed
How about instead of assuming kids didn't like it because we think kids are dumb we just ask them? Cause from what I've heard most kids loved it, kids are smarter than you think, they might not be able to relate to Joe completely but they can comprehend the message the movie is giving
@@giuliacf4180 tru dat
The thing about this movie I find a lot of people just don’t seem to realize is that sparks aren’t a passion or a purpose or anything like that. It’s the willingness to exist, to live, just walking out the door, and I feel as though the reason people don’t realize that is because of the yearn for completion, for an end goal that makes you feel complete. We don’t want to believe that in the end it is really, meaningless.
Honestly don’t know what I’m going on about at this point but anyway.
Thats human nature, but Im sure in our spiritual forms we would not feel any need for completion
They said in the movie that sparks were definition not your purpose, and you get your spark when you’re ready to live.
Yes, humans don’t have purposes, they have wills to live, to just exist, that’s what the spark is supposed to be.
@@lukethelegend9705 well I guess it depends what religion/spirituality/lack thereof that you belong to. What you believe shapes what you think life is about.
Yes! Listening to Abraham Hicks has taught me that we are here on earth to ENJOY and feel happy. Nothing more nothing less. I mean of course help others etc but to enjoy. Being happy just brings you more happiness and we tend to create reasons to struggle and feel like miserable failures.
The ending is suppose to be open, is up to the viewer to know how they're gonna live their life.
The story isn't really about Joe but about us people that sometimes feel unsure of our life.
The film still does have a lot of weird plot holes and unnecessary things, but is Pixar and is for kids too I guess.
True also I love your among us videos ur super talented !
Kids deserve good films too (sans plot holes), just putting it out there
@@ambriaashley3383 Yeah, and they got a great one
Yes I love the ending because it shows Joe can do literally anything with his life, it shows it doesn’t matters what he’s going to do, he’s going to live every minute of it.
@@RS-qc4tg yea
I think the part where Joe gets eaten by 22 and rescues her is a metaphor of depression and anxiety with her focusing on the complains people have given her and making them worse than they actually were
That’s what I think as well. I’ve had depression and that mindscape felt very familiar.
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING! It felt like a metaphor for depression for me.
A wise man once said: "ok guys, i know that there are gonna be a lot of mad comments in the comment section, but i think that depression is a d tier, its just not that good"
Can you tell who said that?
I suffer from Anxiety and Depression and that moment when 22 said I'm not good enough to live was the most relatable thing I have ever seen or heard in a movie. that and the bad mentors telling them they're not good enough, no one will like them, etc. I hate bad teachers. One literally kept me depressed for a really long time because nothing I did seemed to be enough for them. They wouldn't give me the accommodations I needed either. I always thank the good ones.
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Personally I think the lack of closure on the movie is intentional. Instead of watching him go out and live his life I felt like I needed to go out and live mine.
Exactly! I repeated after him about enjoying each moment because i find myself so angry soemtimes and when i look at why, i have no reason to be. I can find happiness in little things like 22 did and like we did as kids. That is important. I realized how often i make myself angry just because im an adult with respinsibility, i need to be enjoying each moment and let life happen
ahhh that makes so much sense!!!
its definitely intentional. If people actually go and research about the conclusion, they would actually find out that there were deleted scenes and the director stating their reason for leaving it ambiguous.
Definitely intentional! Like someone else said, they tried out different endings (from Joe passing on to becoming a mentor to having 22 show up in his class to seeing 22 being born) and they considered they did not work as well
Yeah, I think the ending went well with the messaging. It's not about the destination, but the journey
my guy you *COMPLETELY* missed the point of that ending.
YEP
Yeah same I was like 👍
Exactly. He totally failed to acknowledge the significance of opening the film with no open credits but ending the film with the title screen.
What did he miss exactly?
@@nikolajmadsen1002 he kept saying how he thought the whole ending was inconclusive and wanted to see how Joe's life would turn out (like, is he gonna stay a teacher? is he gonna get famous playing with Dorothea, etc.), he wanted a great conclusion that wraps everything up when the ENTIRE point of the story is there is NO grand conclusion in life. That's the message we get when Joe doesn't feel satisfied after playing that one night (Which, to him, was his life goal) or when we learn that a Spark isn't "A reason for living". the thing idea is that life goes on. So the movie, fittingly, ends with Joe waking up, and now his life goes on.
"It's about the little things in life, not the destination." Proceeds to complain about how the destination wasn't satisfying.
THANK YOU
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Right?? Having a ten minute montage of Joe’s life after coming back would have completely ruined the movie! The whole point is that we don’t have to see how he found his “purpose” in teaching, inspiring others, achievements, etc. Those things are only a part of who we are, not the most important thing.
EXACTLY
That's life
I think the abrupt ending is kinda the point. Joe doesn’t know where his life will go from here, and we don’t either, but that’s ok because that’s how life is
Yess!!
That’s exactly the meaning. That’s why the movie didn’t have an open credit slide. It was at the end because now the story starts.
Crazy how the reviewer missed that key story telling element...
It doesn’t matter if you don’t know what to do in life, there’s one this you should care about, enjoying ever second of it. Because it’s the reason for living.
The scene that GOT TO ME was when Joe was trying to reach out to 22, and then all those sand figures with her voice but the words of her mentors....it was this weird mix of both show but tell the audience that despite 22 SEEMING like she was this confident no fcks given soul, she....WANTED to go to Earth the whole time. She just felt like she wasn't good enough but hid that insecurity with aloofness. God it really struck a chord with me.
I completely agree I bawled my eyes out when I saw the scene. I related so much to 22 in that moment.
It really hit for me but for Dazz I guess he thought it was cliche
That scene was both scary and sad, great job Pixar.
I did too... I never cry... I lost a bet...
Exactly!!! That hit me so hard. This movie was just great so many subtleties throughout and honest messages. I love this film!
Hot take: Terry doesn’t need to be a villain (That’s why she’s not)
Exactly! She is not meant to be a villain, just an abstract concept that takes on a physical form for humans to understand (both us the audience and the souls). There is no villain or big action sequence because there is no need for one.
I thought Terry was a male- 👁👄👁
I seriously thought that terry and the jerrys were genderless
@@Cam_Ayy that would make sense
@@Cam_Ayy I think they are but they go by male and female pronouns I believe
I know this is irrelevant, but I just had the best orange ever
Its more relevant than you think.
It actually fits with the message of the story.
Don't try too hard to live up to the best moment in life. Enjoy the moment what you're doing right now the best you can!
My cabbages!!
Xdd
I've been eating a lot of oranges lately and I tell you there is nothing better than having one straight out of the cooler after a tiring day.
I've not had an orange in forever, I totally want one now too.
I think that’s the point of the film you’re not supposed to know what happens next we don’t know if he’s gonna stay a teacher or is he going to still play with Dortha Williams all we know is that he’s going to live life to the fullest and I think that’s the magic of soul you just have to live life to the fullest if you didn’t like that ending that’s completely fine
But 22 is still unknown, what happened to her and what about the little girl? That's loose ends that Pixar is known for tying up
@@ninjanibba4259 that's the point, just like when joe got to the point he thought he wanted, he was like "that's it?". We will always want to find "that answer" and when we find it, we're gonna still have that feeling of longing.
@@ninjanibba4259 I would say that it carries on with the message that life is complex. We don't know what will happen in life. It's impossible to "tie" all that complexity up. We always want more and more, but now that both (22 and Joe) want to LIVE (meaning everything, not just their "purpose" etc), there is a sense of conclusion.
The only thing for me would be the "Lisa" part since it doesn't tie that up, but oh well.
EXACTLY. I get it, you see it fade and you're like "WHAT, THAT'S IT? STUPID ENDING" But... did anyone think that- that's the point? If we got what we wanted, would it make us think about the movie as much? One of the themes were dissatisfaction and that's what the viewers are also facing
I don't know, that's a good message to teach, but not interesting in the format of a film.
being too "realistic" leads to boredom or disinterest.
The movies ending was intended to have the viewer question life and ponder on its meaning. The ending wants you to feel like the story of joe gardener isn’t finished. It’s fine if you don’t like the idea of an unfinished story, but I personally feel like this is what makes the movie soul unique.
Tru dat
I sat for 2 minutes in deep thought after the movie was over
this movie is far from being the first to pull a "the ending is vague on purpose" card. i love it, but i fear the writers gave up or lots of footage was cut.
What about murderers and rapist !
@@ashknight6696 The creators said they played with ideas for wrapping up the movie but decided it was best left ambiguous.
I’ve gotta agree with the comments on this one. This whole video was just “i WaNt mUh aNsWeRs!!!11!!!,” when the point is to not have answers. The ambiguous ending is intentional. It’s supposed to be open to interpretation.
"Please, just do it quickly, and quietly." "And also quickly... and quietly as well." is comedic genius.
The trophy scene is also gold
I thought the last scene with terry being told to look away whilst they rig the count was hilarious
@@sebastian.victor7461 same haha
Jerry "This won't be a disaster, that's for sure...."
I can see why people want a set conclusion, but the point of the ending of the film is that it's okay if we don't KNOW if he'll be satisfied as a teacher or not, nor what kind of life 22 will lead. Life is ambiguous at BEST. So the ending NOT being definitive makes complete sense. Life is confusing, life can suck, life is HARD. I like that for ONCE in their god damn lives, Disney/Pixar did NOT wrap this up in a NICE little BOW of happiness at the end. Because news flash...that's life. It's complex. And that's what makes it WONDERFUL. This is one of those animations that SHOWS why animated movies are NOT just for children. They don't get why adults have existential crises, or why we have questions about why we're here-they're innocent to all of that. But that shouldn't be a fault of the movie if it's not kid friendly. Pixar's _Soul_ is ANOTHER BANGER of a film, and if you didn't see the point of the ending or the thematic behind it...maybe it's best you give it another go. I myself had to watch it twice to fully understand everything going on and since I have...it...really nails what it's going for. And for the demographic, I think it really speaks to generation z and the millennial generation I feel. We know what kind of world we live in, we see the world for the most part as 22 saw it, but...it isn't all bad. Maybe we just need to start living instead of complaining about it all.
Finally someone else who truly sees why the ending is truly beautiful
Same I felt as if I was missing something because I loved the ending
Yes! I was going to comment something similar, but you beat me to it. As for the demographic, my younger brother actually quite enjoyed Soul from what I saw. Either way, I *love* the moments that are up for interpretation.
Yes
@IG - IcicleGamer sup, did you like Soul?
This is probably Pixar’s most intellectual film yet
Totally agree
Also has the best animation of any Pixar film.
@@keyboardguru4212 I feel Coco had better animation imo
Ratatouille probably fits that description better, but this is definitely the most subtle.
They keep improving in every film in my opinion
I can see why the ending feels abrupt and believe me, I felt that the first time I watched it......Until I thought about it. Part of the film's message is that purpose means different things to different people. Was it the correct path for Joe to continue teaching? Was it the correct path for Joe to play live jazz more? Neither are a right answer, and neither are a wrong answer. The point of the film ended up being not what Joe chose to do with his life, but rather that he WAS alive and needed to appreciate it all a lot more, rather than setting it all around one specific goal and considering the rest of life "meaningless". If the film would have revealed what he ended up doing with the rest of his life, it would have hammered in a definitive answer as to what career path has more purpose. Nothing does, only the things we chose to be as such.
yep, very well put.
i found the unconventional story structure quite refreshing. i was getting sick of the idea that everything means something
YES, like, we don't need every character to be a shonen hero defeating everyone by the end to prove that life is worth it and friendship is everything and everyone is valid (except the protag kun who obviously has to be the best fighter/musician/wathever, f the rest i guess cuase that's the only way to prove that there is meaning to life; and media is only there to fulfill power fantasies of any kind am i right?) lol.
Like, if we were to see anything else after the ending, for it to be in line with the message it would have to be something fully chill and day to day like, like enjoying your morning coffe or wathever, saluting a stranger, failing in class but being happy you get to try, do we really need to see that? wasn't it clear already? and if they were to be like:
Oh yeah they became the two most famous and accomplished musicians ever and then continued to mentor *selected talented souls* who will go on to *become something something great heroes/musicians/scientists/etc*, there you go, like what a slap in the face would that be lol. What a way to undermine the whole point of the movie lol. It ended were it made sense for it to end honestly. Or do we needed him to become a mentor soul in his own way? but do we need to see that? didn't he already do it? come on we don't need everything spoonfed
I think that was the point of the Jerrys and Terry. They're literally 2d, which makes their characters 2d. They don't have souls, they just work in ways that humans can understand/comprehend. They're literally compounds of the universe if it was alive. I understand why people wouldn't like the counselors, but to me personally, they made the film great
I liked them too,I just like to build the world more
They're not really supposed to have souls so to me his point about terry didn't make sense. Unlike humans, they actually do have specific jobs such as counting or taking care of fresh souls so there'd be no point in giving terry an arc since he'd go right back to counting.
@@isiahblaise5245 exactly. They’re metaphysical manifestations of reality itself to perform specific vital tasks. Honestly, the fact Terry even has a personality is kind of surprising. They really just need to be a mindless computer running and automatically filling in the Excel Spreadsheet to End All Excel Spreadsheets. But I suppose that’s not as plot convenient. And this isn’t really the type of movie that works well with an omnipotent-AI supervillain.
I thought of the Jerry’s and Terry to be something akin to angels.
My favorite scene in the film (spoiler alert) is when Joe gets to live out his dream by playing at the local nightclub, but then goes “that’s it?” He got his dream, but he still wasn’t satisfied, and that felt real to me.
With that being said, I’m still not sure if I like this movie as a final product because I found the messaging to be confusing, but I would recommend it because I think that audiences will like it more than I do.
A message that explains it's self from every angle is temporary but the messages that stick are the one that you aren't going to get explained and that is and isn't the point
👍
“This is water I want to be in the ocean”
“This is the ocean”
“But this is water”
Life is meant to be enjoyed on all aspects and sometimes chasing your dreams too hard prevents you from that.
Yeah, that took me back to Bojack Horseman! I love the optimistic nihilism of it.
You get this big high, and then... What? You're gonna rely on that? No, until you realize that life is what drives you, you're gonna be miserable and obsessed with your fix. Y'know, like the lost souls. The dark dusty clouds. Fucking loved this movie.
I love how everyone is like “Soul didn’t have a terrible twist villian!” Or “this doesn’t follow the exact Pixar formula!”
None of you can ever be satisfied. You just want a bland kids movie. Everything you’ve griped about before is EXACTLY what you want. You LOVE the terrible twist villains. You LOVE all the bland cliches. You didn’t want anything different, you just wanted Toy Story.
i absolutely loved soul for this reason, it’s just not like other movies. it feels more complex and what I can only describe as artistic.
Ikr Its like when a smash character is revealed and everyones like NANI! WHY WASINT IT GENO
Seriously? People said that? Jeez then they really don't understand what this movie was made for.
Exactly. Personally I find writers who can rely on making an engaging, very mature film with no antagonist to be the best in the game. The movie didn’t need a villain, the conflict was good enough to stand on its own and helps establish the realistic theme of the movie. We need more kids films that show that life isn’t a battle of good vs evil. Movies like this require complexity.
Yeah, because even Terry is just doing the system.
Okay... first question: Why do you assume “animation” automatically translates to “kids movie”? That’s a small minded approach to the medium, akin to saying that “spray paint street murals” can’t ever be “art”, which I can attest to first hand is just not the case. After watching it, I don’t think they actually intended it as a movie primarily directed at kids at all...
Secondly, I kinda think that this movie shares a lot thematically with both “Inside Out” and “Coco”. Collectively, they all make a similar argument that there’s more to life than we really give thought to on a day to day basis. But they all also do it in very different ways, each tackling a different aspect of the three forms of argument (those being ethos, pathos, and logos, or the appeal to authority, emotion, and logic, respectively).
“Inside Out” hits you in the feels (pathos), quite literally, given that the entire story is told from the perspective of anthropomorphized emotions. It points out in very real ways that focusing on just one thing isn’t something that’s conducive to growth or adapting to change. We can see this particularly (and perhaps unsurprisingly) in the fact that Joy (the main protagonist) actually doesn’t realize the importance of anyone (or perhaps anything) except herself until she’s confronted with the self sacrifice of Bing Bong and the discovery that even those moments where happiness is most powerful are often born out of sadness. Even through all this though, you can still see the message that “it’s not about you”, at least not all of the time.
“Coco” makes a similar argument, insofar that pretty much everything Miguel does starts out with a selfish motivation, but ends up with him more focused on his whole family sharing in both joy and loss. (This is a callback to the end of “Inside Out” as well, with Riley’s new core memory being a bittersweet one centered around the loss of her old life and the continuing onward in the presence of family.) Coco takes a different approach though, and points out that just because someone might be “older” and/or “more experienced” doesn’t mean they are automatically worth listening to or admiring. (We’ll see this theme again in “Soul” through Joe’s mother. More on that in a bit.). Given that Ethos (the appeal to authority, remember) is the weakest and least effective of the forms of argument, this is probably a good tack. Miguel’s mother thinks she knows what is best but she’s proven wrong when we learn that she made judgements about her (late) grandfather based on incomplete information (namely, that he actually DID try to come home but was murdered before he got the chance). We also see that all the credit people gave Ernesto because of his (wrongly) “perceived” authority and talent was horribly misplaced.
“Soul” adds the final piece to this whole set of life lessons by teaching us that while thinking about what we do is important, it also doesn’t mean everything. If I had to sum this movie up in one go, it’d come out something like: “Don’t take life too seriously, because you’ll never get anything fun out of it. But you also better not be late for work tomorrow morning...” (or perhaps evening, in Joe’s case.) 22 learning to love the small things is a call back to the Pathos-based argument of acknowledging emotions and taking time to enjoy them, be they good or bad. Joe’s mother being so obsessed with her shop and Joe getting a “real” job is a callback to the Ethos-based fallacy pointed out in “Coco” where blind obedience is a bad idea, but Joe’s impact on Curly and Connie is proof that sometimes having a measure of authority CAN be a useful tool to help guide people in the right circumstances.
And the ending of “Soul” is that Logos-based (logic) reminder that we can and do tend to overthink far too many things. Thinking isn’t _bad_ for us, after all. It’s _THINKING_ about why 22 was so fascinated with life that pushes Joe to slow down a little and go back into the soul world after her. But the vague ending is also that reminder that we need to also pay attention to our own emotions and listen to what other people say, keeping everything in a healthy balance.
dude you spoke my mind
It's not like he pulls it out of thin air. He bases the idea that they aimed it at kids because of Pixar's track record of aiming all of their films at the children friendly family audience. There isn't a single one that isn't prior to this film that isn't. So he brings up children in the context of a Pixar film, not animation as a whole.
@@KlearChristal This movie is still family friendly though.
@@petalchild That it is. But just because it's SAFE for kids, that doesn't mean it was MADE for kids.
@@KlearChristal yeah it’s Pixar and Disney is behind it it’s not a Gritty Adult Anime with extremely Dark Themes and violence
The thing that I loved about the sand thing at the end with 22 is that all of her past mentors said the same things they said to her towards the beginning but the difference was the beginning portrayed it as comic relief which was funny but in the end it showed that all of those things really did hurt 22 and it embedded a lot of self hate in her as she tried to laugh it off and act like it didn’t bother her, and that HIT ME
Same!
I personally like the abrupt ending; it lets us wonder what he could be up to, "living every moment" without spelling it out for us. What I personally would have liked to see was a short shot of a baby just born in a mother's arms, implying 22 being just born.
Exactly!
I honestly feel kind of bad for 22, because if you look at what part of the globe she was going to, then you'll know that she's likely going to be born into poverty and be hungry and miserable for her whole life.
@@ParadoxPerson02 same, I noticed that too.
@@ParadoxPerson02 Where’s that? Also I hope despise all of that,she can live a better life anyways
@Akshay 786 the average person in China has a lower state of living than the average person in the US. There are rich people in every country, but they are the outliers.
That hippie spinning the arrow while meditating is wild.
Oh yeah hes the best
I feel like you're perceiving the "water" and not the "ocean" in this review.
And all you want is the water..
Its because its not that great of a film I tried to get into it but it was just too boring and I just ended up turning it off
@@domthasbigmuscles It’s more of an if you know, you know situation.
@a Distraction no
@a Distraction no you aren't my mum or dad I dont have to shut up because you tell me to. You have no authority over me
This movie is a instant classic for the next generation of viewers in my eyes
yup
ABSOLUTELY. This will be a film for my generation, gen Y aka millennials and generation Z. If you didn't relate to 22 at ALL with her shit outlook on life on Earth I kinda wonder why lol. I think a lot more people will relate to her rather than Joe actually. I found it odd he never mentioned people relating to 22 at ALL-Jeremy Jahns related to her a LOT lol
Thank you I feel very similar to that:)
Yep
@@TheRibottoStudios it was a little bit too fast paced in the beginning but yeah I say it's an instant classic
The colors, the characters, the ambient score, and the story.
I love the scene with Joe trying to save 22 from her thoughts with the sand around them. It feels like a take on depression or anxiety. 22 is stuck in her thoughts with all these people she looked up to telling her how terrible she is. It just felt so...real I guess. I don’t really know how to describe it.
It’s very real. I remember being in that same position, feeling useless and and interpreting things others said way more negatively in my head. All it took was just one person to reach out to me and remind me of the joy I have found on my own, outside of the voices that were weighing me down. I’ve never felt so seen and represented in a movie before.
@@LadyBug020411 I’m glad that you felt represented! And I hope you’re doing okay now
Yea I think it helped. Also have you and dipper worked it out yet?
This scene spoke to me! Like when 22 sees joe (projectile vomiting) down on him with discouraging words I was like woaaaah that’s deep!
I think about the same way When I watched it, it struck really close to home. My mind has been lost in those thought before
This video was like "bUT i wANt ANsWeRS"
exactly,he just don’t want to admit that he were completely wrong and said a lot of blunders in the other videos and now is trying to find fault, ashamed of people like that, clearly he didn't understand the message
Yeah this movie went over his head. It gave him every answer he needed to arrive a conclusion.
I completely disagree with the argument of the ending not being enough, for me it was the piano scene where the whole story clicked and less became more and before he told Jerry that he "would live his life to the fullest" my thoughts went to that conclusion and it felt much more satisfying to me because I understood that there was where the story was directing us towards.
Either way I do get somewhat that it needed a bit more fireworks for the kids.
And imo the theme was that it's not what u do for a living, it's wanting to live in the first place. I think Jerry in one instance called him out on that aspect. So the theme of him being a teacher or soul man is secondary.
I don’t agree with all of that “fireworks for the kids”,who said animations are just for them?i think the mainly public the movie was reaching for it was adults,he just don’t want to admit that he were completely wrong and said a lot of blunders in the other videos and now is trying to find fault, ashamed of people like that, clearly he didn't understand the message
I don't agree with your "for the kids" part, as I can see plenty of kids enjoying the movie and talking to their parents about it - assuming they're, like, 6 year olds and not toddlers.
Also, I wanted to learn more about the world Soul presents us - though I understand that that isn't the movie's focus.
I love all the Jerry’s and Terry’s designs
It seems familiar to me. Like a scribble. Its so unique, i can see the eyes and body with no detail. It just works really well
@@daniidanboy, Picasso like designs right?
@@averagedietcokeenjoyer3693 yea!
I think they're suppose to represent a more abstract version of old jazz band album covers.
@@solace6181 I think it’s just your own eyes
I actually really like Terry. I don’t really know why, I just thought they were very funny
Yep.
His voice maybe
You’re probably a Redditor
@@asheefaazmialifia3069 it's a her
Same! I also loved the music that played when they showed up!
Why does animation have to always be "for kids".
"Animation is a medium, not a genre"-Brad Bird, from the audio commentary from The Incredibles.
“ I guess child birth doesn’t belong in a kids movie.” Well someone didn’t watch the birth of Dill Pickles in the Rugrats first movie.
Also Hope's birth in ATLA
The cat has nine lives - Terry has accounted for that.
Terry probably hates cats because of this
T h e c a t i s t h e r e a l s o u l o f f c o u n t
@@edendettling7263 :O wait-
this was what bugged me only and the most from the movie, but now that you say it like that it doesnt bother me anymore that much hhhh
I like the ending like that because it's up to the audiences interpretation of what Joe does with his life and who 22 ends up becoming.
@Sean Elitz who’s Mia?
I'm pretty sure 22 became rhydon
@Sean Elitz who?
For 22, the fact that her "spark" seems to be living leaves her open to alot of options. Who knows what she'll become?
I really just don't think it's your kind of film. At the end of the day this is a different kind of movie from most Pixar ones and I feel like that aspect of it is what muddled your perception of it. I feel like it's very easy to relate to Joe, and the message of the movie I took away was moreso to be thankful for your life and live it how YOU want to. Having Joe die, I feel, would have been both more cliche and more of a "please cry NOW PLEAAASE" moment, and make little sense in the world the movie has created. His joke was played for a laigh from the start, and it'd be insanely awkward to see a montage of the people Joe has affected while also realizing in the back if your head that these people are gonna realize Joe died randomly in his house and be distraught over it. I really think you went in with the wrong kinds of expectations. Not every animated movie needs to appeal to children, or have some crazy climax. Somber moments are appreciated too. Saying that you specifically wouldn't like or get it as a kid doesn't mean that other kids won't. Honestly, it's kind of a shame that people rip on this movie for being "mature", because it implies the majority of kids will not take anything away from this. In a year as crappy as 2020, I think SOUL is a great movie with an optimistic outlook on life that will resonate with a lot of people.
Exactly! From what I gathered, my younger brother actually ADORES soul. He was super excited over a happy meal toy of the therapy cat. Personally I also love seeing more mature cartoons/movies. Cartoons don't have to be just for kids AND cartoons can still maintain a younger audience while being more mature.
It’s so irritating. I’m 15. And have experience troubles with my mental health. I am a child. The definition of a child does not mean only toddlers. And I hate how people assume that when you say something is a kids film it has to only appeal to 2-7 year olds. Teenagers are kids too. And I love this movie. Im an artist and I’ve always strived to try and be the best I can be. Which leaves me drained, and unmotivated in life because all I think about is that end goal of being a professional. And this movie really touches me saying that you don’t need to always work towards a goal, you can enjoy things in life. It isn’t always about the end. It’s what happens along the way.
@@onyxtheowl24 yes, i can empathize with that a lot, i'm artist too aswell.
The whole purpose of the ending is the fact that he wasn’t living before and at the end of it he’s finally going to start actually living which is why he’s got his “soul” back and that’s why the actual movie title comes at the end.
I can confirm that, New Yorkers would totally not pay much mind to the crazy person in a hospital gown with a cat on their shoulder... No one has time for that.
He wouldn't even have been the weirdest person they saw all day.
Very correct
I just finished it...I even let the credits play as I just think about what I just watched until the end...it made me cry.
I've pushed myself everyday to finish my art and I never do finish cause I fear it look so much worse then the sketch and for a full year I never made something. This movie just told me to chill and enjoy the staff you got in front of you the people and what you have... you know.
It made me cry, too. And I don't usually cry during or after movies.
exactly. i've been stress with school works and in creating artworks. this film made me reflect on what am i doing with my life.
I didn't feel like this movie was supposed to make you feel as much as it was supposed to make you think.
Isn’t that a Schaffrillas quote
I actually found the "famous souls" gags (Copernicus, Lincoln, etc.) hilarious. Those got the biggest laughs from me during the runtime
I wonder how they became mentors though. Arnt they dead and they would've just gone to the beyond?
Same
Damn this movie hit me harder than a truck would
Frl
It hit me harder than my drunk parents
Instead of truck-kun take you to Isekai world, it would take you to the Great Beyond instead.
It hit me harder than my body hit the ground when I fell down a manhole
@@ReReCoil GKYS.
I completely disagree with your opinion on the conclusion, I think it was next perfect and didn't need to be dragged on. Like I think a good example of ubruptly perfect endings are studio ghibili films. You don't know what happens to Chirico after she drives away from the abandonded park, you don't know how the people of iron town are going to rebuild the town and it doesn't need to.
Agreed 100%. And you don't need an explanation to what happened to all of the characters. We as audiences are used to being spoonfed every explanation, but sometimes it's best if we're not
Yes!
Yess! Soul and Studio Ghibli movies are about an experience that might not have changed a lot externally, but changed the main character internally.
The filmmakers cut/dropped a couple of alternate endings but they felt that the open ending was better. The open ending allows the audience to answer their own conclusion. Also just because a film is animated/PIXAR doesn't mean it's a kids movie.
I feel like showing Connie being a performer, Joe doing teacher/ being a performer, or tying up any of the character/loose ends defeats the purpose of one of the early characters. When Joe gets his hair cut by Dez (the barber), he mentions how he didn't set out the be a barber. He wanted to be a veterinarian when he was young but live came along and he changed his plans. He says that doesn't mean he is unhappy with his life now or looks down on being a barber. Doing any of the stuff previously mentioned might have implied that people are on a set path in life. You find happiness and fulfillment in life through just being present in the world around you. The movie can't tie up anything in happy bow because that's not how life works. The characters themselves have no clue whats in store for them, just like Dez had no clue what was in store for his life. Whether or not Joe teaches or plays again doesn't matter. He could never touch a piano again and it doesn't matter. Because he is going to be living his life, to the fullest most likely. And no one, not the movie, not us, not anyone from that world can tell him what will make him happy. He decides that for himself.
Beautifully said!!!
Hey, I know opinions are subjective and everything, but I think the reason why it doesn't have a nice wrapped up ending because that is what life is like.
I just want to say the part where he reaches out to 22's lost soul made me bawl. Perhaps its not something everything understood but for me, it was the perfect depiction of my anxiety. I never figured out a way to explain to my immigrant mom-who didn't grow up with knowledge of mental health issues-what anxiety is like. Like I can finally refer to something that might be easier to understand than my verbal explanation.
Yo
Yes! I watched with my parents and bawled when I told them that’s how I feel everyday. They finally understand and it was a beautiful moment
This movie personified that dark, lost/lonely/feeling like life has no meaning feeling better than I've ever seen any film or anything other than my own real feelings do. I loved that the film went to those dark places, it's a very honest place for the film to go for viewers of all ages.
Listen man, I like your videos. But you missed the mark completely here. I love this movie for the reasons you stated you’re conflicted on it. You don’t like that the movie didn’t have a nice bow-on-top ending. I love that. The movie’s message is saying it’s *okay* to not know for sure what is going to make you happy or not. The movie is saying you just have to live life, and that’s all.
Is it wrong to want an ending?
@@lancethefilmguy9392 if you want an ending you’re probably not getting the message of the film.
@@gezz5904 I got the message. Just wanted the ending to be better. Nothing wrong with that my friend
@@lancethefilmguy9392 if you still want another ending then you clearly don’t get it the message of the film
@@julia-vy9mw Again I understand the message. How many times do I have to repeat myself? No need to be pretentious
*Dazz, all the suggestions you're giving in this video is honestly CLICHES.* You constantly calls this movie cliche when you're also suggesting cliches, which is hypocritical to say the least.
Yep. Soul jazzing up the story structure (and art design) is very fresh compared to the stuff they've been putting out before it.
That ending was PERFECTION finally leaving us to use our imagination and it almost gave us permission to continue the story in our own lives rather than leave it on the screen.
when my mom died i realized that uncertainty is just a part of life. the ending of soul wasn't a mistake, it was meant to put emphasis on the events of the movie and the message of just living your life to the fullest all the time rather than passing it by looking for something better. it doesn't matter where he goes, what matters is he's gonna live in it.
that may go over some peoples heads but its the point and it was not a mistake.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I am sorry for your loss..........
Also when people die, they turn to dirt
This is the greatest comment I've seen yet
@@frgwyn3760yeah. your point?
The soul world did seem very bland, the earth scenery was so much more colorful and interesting
I feel like that was intentional considering the whole point of the soul world was to get the souls *SPOILERS*
To want to go to earth themselves
The movie is about the people of EARTH, not the souls of “soul world”. It’s fine that the soul world wasn’t built upon too heavily.
I think it's purpose is to appreciate every second of living in earth. I mean, it does show a scene of earth from space and the universe, and the beauty of the world we lives in.
I feel like the reason for that is because you have to enjoy EARTH during life and the great before is not detailed because it is not for remembering and actually LIVING.
The show was actually quite interesting to my siblings: age 2 and age 10. Children are smarter than we allow them to be
I've been on a Dazz binge in the last 24 hours and he has DEFINITELY said this before. I find it very ironic that he's being hypocritical lol
It doesnt take much for kids to be entertained,
The movie has pretty colors and nice looking character, decent visual gags and really cool looking visuals.
That's all there is to it, and i could easily see a small kid binge the SHIT out of Soul.
"The climax was too cliché", but also "I just wanted a 5 minute montage at the end" Interesting.
Yeah
Okay, so the ending didn't spoon-feed us a montage of Joe living his "best life"... thats the point of the story
Life is not perfect and we can't plan all before hand. We dont know if Joe went back to teaching or became a famous musicians or went after something else, and thats great cuz life is full of possibilities and it's okay not to be sure.
I personally disagreed with his points in the video
@Not-So-Smart yeah he seems to be missing a lot of the points of the movie and forcing it to be a bad film when it isn’t. I loved this movie it surprised me but he seems to be criticizing everything which I know he’s a reviewer but he seems to be milking it and not bringing up any actual valid points
@Not-So-Smart "People don't like what I like therefore its milking views!"
@Not-So-Smart Is he wrong for disagreeing with the popular opinions? I get where he is coming from. It would have been a better movie with an ending
Look I get this is his opinion and review but the way Daz talks about this movie makes me feel like
“Who hurt you?”
I think they took a bold ass risk with the ending to deliver the message - just LIVE. You don't have to constantly reach for the heights and do grand things - just live. Live every day and enjoy it. That what the ending was about. It didn't have to be a grand ending. The final words - I'm gonna live every minute of it - is the climax we needed to get to. Joe finally understands the beauty of life without having to chase after some made up higher goal.
It honestly makes me sad how many people aren't catching onto the message of Soul. Soul isn't a kid's movie. It follows some things from them sure, but even the comedy relief character, doesn't get that much screen time because that isn't the point.
Soul is one of the first films that really directs itself towards Gen Z... And in some ways, still focuses on Millenials as well.
Gen Z is a generation that struggles with the concept of living to work or working to live. We've heard our whole lives about what we need to do, and what is our purpose, but because of our big access to the entire world through the internet... there are so many more perspectives we see now than any other generation. We often get stuck trying to find what it is we're meant to do, as we're often big dreamers, but those "dreams" are not always what makes us tick... As is for anyone.
In a similar feat, there's millennial representation as well. 22, represents the concept of being "behind"... in Japan, their millennials came into adulthood when the economy collapsed, and to this day most of them still haven't moved out of their parent's homes. And similar things have happened even in other countries, the U.S. most certainly included. 22 represents the millennial generation as the generation that's "behind" on living... 22 struggled with finding their "spark". (I honestly refuse to reference 22 with any pronouns other than they/them because they were coded at the beginning of the film to have NO gender because it hasn't been forced upon them yet. They haven't lived yet, therefore they have no gender.)
22 mentions how they felt there was something wrong with them, even though all of their concerns about life are completely valid. 22 is behind, and they certainly feel that fact...
The main message of the film, at least from the perspective I am coming from and my personal struggles as an earlier gen z... this film made me cry and made me so comforted. We just... live. We don't need to have a purpose, we just live and work things out as we go... it's the biggest message that's super important to my generation because we have so much pressure on us to "fix" the economy that our parents refuse to believe is flawed (particularly here in the U.S.) We're expected to just go along with everything that the older generations just flowed with (or particularly our Gen X parents, who had some of the easiest time in the U.S. economy before it began to crash)
The idea of working has never been an issue with gen z... more living to work. Because previous generations have, there's the expectation for us to just pick one thing and follow through with it... but what if we don't want that one thing? Or the thing we want isn't supported by our family, which is very, very often the case for many of us. Our parents are more concerned about whether we succeed, rather than if we're happy. This has caused a huge strain on our brains, and especially with our growth with the internet, and our living through god knows how many "apocalypse's" at this point.
The film doesn't just "fade away" real quick. But this would have to come from your own experiences... if you personally haven't experienced these thoughts, then of course the film would fade off for you. I've watched this film nearly 10 times now, and it still hits me every time I watch it...
The point is to live... We don't have to concern ourselves with everything else. And that message alone is so important, especially for a generation that's been too scared to because of what we've had in our growing up lives...
The entire point of the movie was that life is about the LITTLE moments, not some BIG one that has all kinds of meaning and ties your entire life together with purpose. And then people are getting upset that there isn't a BIG conclusion with all kinds of meaning and purpose. Maybe the entire point of the movie is all the little moments. Honestly, I think a big fight sequence at the end would absolutely ruin it.
And I think the abrupt, vague ending is totally the point of the movie too. The entire point is that life is what you make it. If they told us exactly what Joe went on to do with his life... It would be sort of like they were saying that he really did have this ultimate purpose, this sort of perfect... point that just fits perfectly and everything works. And that wasn't what they were saying at all. This way you can imagine him doing... anything. He might focus more on being a teacher. Or he might follow Dorothea and be part of that band. He might reconnect with his mom. He might adopt a cat. Who knows? We can imagine whatever, because that's exactly what life is - whatever you make it.
"I thought 22's spark would be public speaking or something, but apparently that's just living in the moment?" Again, having her have a clear, defined THIS IS 22'S SPARK goes against the entire message of the movie. If her spark was public speaking, what would you be expecting of her? That she incarnates on Earth and has this super-strong urge to do public speaking, making her life revolve around it, the entire reason she came to Earth, her... purpose, maybe? She doesn't need a defined spark. It's better that she doesn't have one, in fact. As a culture, we've gotten so obsessed with "purpose" and "meaning" that we don't know how to stop looking at things like that, saying something is maybe a bad movie just because it left a lot nebulous.
As for it being not friendly for kids... I mean, one, give kids a little credit. I think it would depend on the kid, but I would have freaking loved this movie as a kid, just like I do now. Yes, a lot of it probably would have gone over my head and I probably wouldn't love it in the same way I do now. But two, just because it's animated does not mean it's just a kid's movie and that's it. I don't honestly know how they would have pulled off the effects and vibe of this movie if they'd opted for something like live-action. But just because it's animated that way doesn't mean that the intended audience can't be adults!
sadly the mentality of if it's animated it's for kids won't be going away for a while all we can do is call that flaw out i have said it again and again that i hate how people have that mentality and not only that it shits on kids that are more smarter then people think adults can enjoy cartoons same way with animated movies one good thing to take away from this is that most that are born somewhere between 2002 to 2020 will most likely not have it some might for sure but it's becoming more apparent that this mind set is just insulting to kids and adults that enjoy cartoons and animated movies its funny how anime is more accepted by adults when its just Japanese animation but oh well
It just would have been better with an ending
All of this! Having a ten minute montage at the end showing Joe finding his “passion” and “purpose” in teaching would have ruined the movie and message. WTF. I mean I know people interpret things differently but damn! Are people really not getting it?? The ending was absolutely perfect.
This needs, WAY MORE likes
One person dude with in a second.
Edit: how did this get so many likes?-
How dare he do that
@@bradycicchini6994 did you just assume the disliker's gender?
did you just assume the dislikers has a gender?
@@El-de6nj Hey, the comment itself that you’re replying in said “Dude.” Tell that to... *ahem* “Idiot Spaghetti.”
@@El-de6nj did you just assume that that the person was assuming and did not in fact already know the disliker in person.
oh...there again
ppl with too sophisticated mind trying to find flaws in a pure sweet and beautiful film...
What? Movies can be criticized even if they're made for kids. I don't share his opinions on this movie but come on, don't be like that
I REALLY disagree with your opinion. The ending was supposed to be abrupt and that’s what made it amazing. If we were shown what he did with the rest of his life, the story wouldn’t hit the same. It would just be more of his life measured in accomplishments.
With the way it ended, we’re left wondering how he spent the rest of his life. How he affected those around him.
It’s not meant to have “a happy ending.”
And with the “action” part, why does it need to have action scenes? My little sister and nephew seemed to pay attention just fine. They loved it and they’re 5.
Action moments would just ruin the intellectual aspect of the movie.
And as for the cliches, that’s such a petty critique. Yes cliches can be annoying but the movie uses these cliches to express their story better. The emotional dust scene was showing 22’s anxiety and depression.
In all, your review was too simplified and kind of idiotic.
Maybe put more thought into your reviews next time.
I watched this movie stoned out of my mind, let me tell ya, best thing ever.
the first time i watched it i was fatigued as fuck at 4 am bc i couldnt sleep while wrapping presents
I was thinking about getting stoned while watching it now I should 😂
The whole thing is an acid trip
I’m sure the aesthetic of the Jerries made it that much better
I completely disagree. The last act was the strongest part of the film
exactly he just don’t want to admit that he were completely wrong and said a lot of blunders in the other videos and now is trying to find fault, ashamed of people like that, clearly he didn't understand the message
@@julia-vy9mw I’m starting to think this guy is the Thunderf00t of film criticism.
It absolutely was. a real shame they cheapened it with Joe's second chance
@@alt8791 can I have an explanation for that
@@lancetheking7524 he don't give you an explanation for that
You missed the entire point of the movie. The reason we didn’t see Joe after he came back to earth because he doesn’t know what to do next, and that’s ok. He’s gonna live every minute of his life even though he may not know what to do. And him meeting 22 really wouldn’t mean that much if you think about it since 22 will not remember him at all.
No one being bothered by joe's hospital outfit in New York City is actually very accurate and believable to how it is. That's New York lol
it was a really well made movie, i enjoyed, very good, i loved the message, the detail, i mean everything about this movie was really well done
just not one of my favorites
Same
@@invalid-user3028 omg lol thats so funny
yeah this movie had really great detail
@@maurabewsmoviecorner6911 Is this a scam?
@@maurabewsmoviecorner6911 Nah I don't trust you
@@tracieburch2996 th-cam.com/video/aCrIaN8tLHM/w-d-xo.html what movie link called
Kids are smarter than you give them credit for. They don’t always need a car chase and a dance party at the end to keep them entertained. My little brother and little cousin were perfectly content to watch something more grownup, and more cerebral.
Seriously, I was quite young when Inside Out came out (I was about 8-10, I think?) and I was perfectly fine when it came to watching it!
Inside out:We all have feelings and its okay to show them :D
Soul:wHaT IS tHe MeAnInG oF LiFe!!!??? *hAs cRiSes aNd QueStIoNs ReAliTy*
(What im saying is soul is hella deep deeper than insideout)
My mom didn't like Inside Out because it was complex, even for adults. She also thought Soul was a little complex due to the message.
Cats have more than one life, it's why he losts his soul but got quickly a new one
I honestly think you missed the point of the film. The ending is supposed to be left vague and 22 isn’t supposed to have a purpose.
exactly,he just don’t want to admit that he were completely wrong and said a lot of blunders in the other videos and now is trying to find fault, ashamed of people like that, clearly he didn't understand the message
@@julia-vy9mw some people just like to hate unfortunately
Me and my family though they we were gonna “princess and the frog” him but they didn’t
They sort of did, though. It’d be great to have a Disney film with a black protagonist who isn’t stuck as an animal for a significant portion of the film.
@@RedCubUK ...does Black Panther count, since Disney owns Marvel?
Or does T'Challa's costume make him technically an animal for large parts of the film?
Well, it’s not an animated film. Disney’s animated films have a separate history of representation than live action stuff.
@@RedCubUK right. Since you didn't originally write animated, my brain jumped to the first example, although one could argue that Black Panther was animated, with how some of the CGI turned out...
...in all seriousness, though, I completely get what you're going for.
@@stevenbobbybills same with spies in disguies (although i'm not sure that's one's disney) it's always the black main character being transformed into the things
weird phenomenon for sure
I actually think the ending was a beautiful way to wrap the movie up. The movie doesn't end in some grand way with a celebration of his return or an epilogue showing us his success, it ends with a beginning. The ending is satisfying in the fact that there is no satisfying ending, because again life isnt about satisfying some greater purpose or ending but its about enjoying the experiences that life brings you. The movie's purpose was for you to experience it.
I truly believe Dazz was the one to sway so many people against this movie and dont understand why he's continuing it but to each their own
Yeah, I would hate it if this vid would make more people avoid the movie.
“I wasn’t satisfied at the end”
Neither was the main character
So
I mean
I feel like we’ve started to expect Pixar movies to make us cry at the end, so because Soul didn’t do that it didn’t feel as powerful to some people. But I don’t think that was Soul’s intention. It was a different type of Pixar movie, made to be more intellectual and thought-provoking than emotion. And open-ended, so the audience could apply the message to their own life.
@@localscissors4036 No offense but that is kinda lazy writing
I was neither satisfied or disappointed. I just didn’t care about any of it. At all. The music was the only highlight
@@lovelyrita64 dang really? Did the message not apply to you?
@@lancethefilmguy9392 wh-wha-ugh
I personally think the ending is perfect. In real life, we don’t have that “adventure is over so happily ever after” because life continues. I love that I don’t know what he does in the end, I love that he can do whatever and we as the audience know that he’ll be happy no matter what. I’m really satisfied with the way that plays out and I think it’s something we can all relate to- nobody knows how our life will play out just like Joe (him saying “I don’t know” when asked what he’ll do with his second chance) but the lingering message of hope makes me feel great.
My favorite joke in the film is when one of the New York Knicks player is in the moment then 22 said that she had been messing with them for decades as she throws the ball at the player and then the player loses his momentum and makes the Knicks lose again. My family and I are New York Knick fans and that moment was quite entertaining.
the reason why most people like it is because some people this year have had it rough in which this film helped them during this time
@FluffyNinja301 yeah it did
Although I did find funny how my parents thought it was only about Jazz kinda like Ratatouille’s theme is food
@FluffyNinja301 ah that’s ok it happens to all of us in one point of our lives, I confused a title for a film for another movie when I was little
Wow, a Pixar film that emotionally impacted me, haven't seen that since Coco.
**sad **_Onward_** noises**
I feel like we’re not really giving kids enough credit as to what they understand. I think that though kids may not get the entire message, I think they’ll still be able to watch this movie and understand what it’s saying to the audience, or at least this film could get kids thinking about these topics and have them be able to ask questions about it and learn more..
Yes thank you for saying this
ya i always get vary upset i am a kid and its like everyone think im stupid
@@eeveestars3668 vary
Personally, I think the end of the film fits perfectly with the message it's telling the viewer. There won't be a big moment where everything about life makes sense, or where you find the thing you are meant to do and that's it, just an easy road from then on.
The fact its open ended is great because that's truly how life is, if the film spent most of the time telling us that a "spark" isn't our purpose in living, that it isn't what we are *meant* to do, but then turn around at the end to be like "well music didn't work for Joe because it wasn't *truly* his spark or his purpose, teaching is what he's meant to do and that's what'll make him happy" it would just ruin everything that was set up previously. There isn't a big meaning to life, you don't just find the thing you are meant to do and then live happy ever after. Life is something you do moment to moment, the chance for change is always there when one feels lost or unhappy, we just have to decide to change, even if it's on little things like talking to your friends more or big things like changing careers.
Also, I think labeling Soul as a kid movie and based on that discrediting it on the lack of "fun" or "exciting" moments for children is unfair to the film, the studio and animation as a medium for storytelling. I fully believe Soul is a movie for adults, who can truly get what it's saying, it doesn't matter it's a Pixar film or that it's an animated film, that doesn't inherently mean it should appeal to younger audiences primarily.
I'm not as old as Joe, but the movie still resonated with me a lot because I do feel like if I don't have, or don't achieve a big goal then I won't find that happiness or a sense of "I know what I'm meant to do" and here's this movie telling me, that big moment might not come, and if it does, it might not do for me what I expect it to, so stop seeing life as one big predestined road and start living it moment to moment, truly see what makes you happy now.
sounds like somone just didnt get the point of the movie lmao
My main problem with this movie is how fast every conflict is solved, almost as soon as they are introduced, the little girl goes to Joe house to quit but after just a conversation, she decides to keep playing music, Joe mother being against Joe being a musician also gets solved after just a little argument with her, Joe gets another opportunity for the gig with Dorothea...again after just a little conversation with her. Is very difficult to find rewarding when our main protagonist overcome the conflicts that are present in his life when said conflicts doesn't really represent a struggle for our protagonist and are solved as easy as they are in this movie.
True, but a lot of these problems are solved by 22 in his body rather than just him. He questions how he views people and how to confront various scenarios (albeit briefly). Your opinion is still valid though, and I understand why you think it.
That little girl did not really had a conflict to begin with, Joe even said that. I think with the mother is mostly about talking and how he never really talked with her about how he really felt, only when he saw that his life was "nothing" if he did play
It’s b/c Joe isn’t the main character. 22 is. Joe is just there to progress 22’s story. Joes whole existence and what he wants is irrelevant. That’s why Joe easily discarded his own life to sacrifice it for 22.
Yeah for a movie that will tell a story about life it’s quite unrealistic in the case of conflicts
I think you're looking at this through the wrong lense. From a literal standpoint you may be correct, but from a literary perspective, the inclusion of those conflicts can be viewed as poetic irony. The little conflicts that quickly resolve themselves throughout the film are mere physical parts of the overall emotional and mental conflict experienced by both 22 and Joe. It is obviously true that problems in life are not so quickly resolved, and that one might be happier they were. However, everything goes Joe's way, and in the end he is left unsatisfied, unsure, and unhappy (I.e. the emotional climax of the film). It's not a representation of the physical realities of life, but rather of the mental and emotional ones. It also speaks to the overall message of the film and the lesson in which both 22 and Joe learn which is to be satisfied with the day-to-day and the unknown. This film was incredibly well structured and so much more to assess.
For what the incomplete ending was for many writed about it before me, so I will not do that, instead I want to give my personal thoughts: as a 16y old that everyday has an existencial crisis on my future etc. I was really pleased for the arguement beign treated as serious as possible, even if I would have licked it covered more in the barber shop scene, maybe with different characters talking about their experience and lifes, I found the message that the spark wasnt the objective of the person as something not many think about but of extreame importance, as we are continusly asked about what job we will do or what university we will take and it is really stressfull as we are always presented as there is only 1 path in life for us and if we cant keep walking in it bad things will happen.
Another message that the film gives us is that "Joe was born to play the piano" but in the end we are told that the spark isnt the objective, and this made me think about the initial statement arriving at the conclusion that we dont live for one thing but we do that one thing to live, as the real objective is to live life appriciating every single day, I still am not able to do that but just realizing this was a big step for me :)
Yess!! ❤️❤️
I feel the same about the ending! I watched the movie and was really invested but by then time they got captured, it started falling apart. It felt very lackluster, and I also noticed the music during the lost soul chase was like, peaceful. It really didn't feel like there were any stakes through the whole movie. And that's fine, but it's like they set up stakes but didn't give us a pay off, it just kind of resolved softly
I kinda disagree, one of my absolute favourite things about this movie was the ending. I absolutely adore that it leaves you with so many questions because the whole end is up to your own ideas, I personally took it as the fact you don’t need to know what happened to the characters, it’s fulfilling enough to know they are both going back into life grateful and are determined to live it to the fullest. What they do with their life doesn’t matter, what matters is they lived!
I really liked it but the pacing moved way too fast, I felt like many times it needed to let many scenes breathe, not just in the last 20 minutes, the prologue moved too fast as well, I felt like I barely knew who Joe was before he died
It was OK for me but I agree. My guess is that Pixar just wanted to stick to 1-hour format
@@maryamotion6398 the film is 1hr 50
Probably they got rushed by Disney to put the Movies out so they can work on the next one that probably get a Theatrical release and that means more money for Disney
@@tadghgibson4523 And that's honestly too short for the subject matter they're trying to tackle, they need more time to explain what's going on AND let scenes breathe. It seems like they chose explaining what's happening above all else to keep the movie under 2 hours.
But really a story like this I think needs more time
@@tubguinace I was replying to the other person who said it was 1hr, nothing was said about whether this was an optimal runtime, I just stated fact.
This was definitely my favorite movie of the year. Pixar definitely showed up for this story for me, and despite the lackluster ending, I thought the rest of the movie made up for it
Are we gunna talk about the Stardew Valley background music
This is the type of dude that listens to a new radiohead song and goes like: "where's the loud part??"
Yeah, this guy is annoying
OMFG you hit the nail on the head
I watched the movie, and loved it. It gave me an existential crisis but I still love it.
Saaameeee lmao 😭😭😭 lowkey gave me a mid life crisis and I’m *fifteen* years old pfffftt. Loved the movie to btw!
@@softfuzzydude6117 that's not mid life crisis, that's puberty
@@joelchrono hmmmm true dat, true lmao. It gave me some kinda crisis thats for sure-
"I'll go as far as I can" this movie was amazing and heartwarming
I love how Dazz shifts between calling Terry she and they. Made my little Demi heart swell!
The ending isn't really about what Joe is going to do next with his life; it's about what you the viewer will do next with your life.