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Lucrezia truly was beautiful, but the paintings of the time sometimes make people find it difficult to see the appeal until realism is applied. Many paintings of bygone ages reflect beauty ideals of the time that, sometimes, fabricate or exaggerate certain features and a bit of personal charm can be lost as a result. It doesn't surprise me that Lucrezia is very beautiful, the reports of dignitaries and the way she cleared a room upon entering it were profound in detail.
Definitely, painting styles change as time passes. I find MOST the artists of the time(Save for Leonardo DaVinci)tried to make her look almost angelic in the portraits.🎨 I really love learning about this family In any capacity.
@@lucretiamaggio6154 Lucretia is also the original Latin version! When I lived in the US no one could pronounce my name correctly. It was always butchered lol (to be fair I had the same problem in France). Is it a problem for you too?
Lucrezia was a good mother and really devoted to God in last decade of her life. She was very loved by Alfonso d'Este, her last husband and she found finally some peace, away from her father and her brother Cesare, that had in mind just prestigious power and money. She was very loved also by the people of Ferrara and you can find now her grave here in convent and Corpus Domini. She was buried with her last dead child, Isabella. As Ferrara is my bornplace, I'm very proud of her as the woman she was in an age of men.
@@hesavedawretchlikeme6902 i'm glad that someone is interest in history of my hometown. Sadly, most of the time Lucrezia is known by her legend and not by the woman (a real woman) she was in the hand of men. Amount of people prefer stopping to what people said and not going deep through an historical research of the person.
She was no pawn. She was a Borgia. She deserves better than to be seen as a witless victim. She wasn't the villainess so many claim her to be, but she was a definite and active part of the Borgia legend. Lucrezia had a knack for charming and befriending everyone who met her. A talent for reading the room and the flexibility to adapt to new roles as needed. She was the good wife and the stern ruler when called to be what she needs to be. Her family was a big part of her life story. But they weren't just domineering villains, we see from their contemporaries and their letters to each other that her father the Pope and her brother the Duke Valentino loved her dearly. And she loved them back. Pawn implies that she obeyed them out of fear and a sense of authority when it could very well be that she did their bidding out of genuine love for them. She was _especially_ intimate with Cesare. As apparently he was one of the few people in the world who could cheer her up and make her laugh when things got bad for her. Though remembered as a murderous fox, Cesare comes across as uncharacteristically tender in all their known interactions. Lucrezia on her part, doted after her older brother like a worried mother--and was inconsolable when he finally died in battle.
I think you underestimate how aristocratic women were treated then. They were viewed as practically property of their father, then their husband. Their only 'function' as far as society was concerned, was to make loveless marriages for status & wealth, then produce male heirs. Any education provided was purely to make them socially adept, not to endow them with skills they could utilise.
@@sarahholland2600 And I think you underestimate how some women managed to be regents and even rulers in their own right. How, through charm, intelligence or sheer strength of will many were able to take some control not only over their own lives but the lives of others. Were they entirely free to do as they pleased? No. But I have no idea why some people so deeply enjoy the idea of looking back in History and see women as mere slaves. Did you miss the part where Lucretzia took part in the negotiations of her last marriage? Especially as a widow she would have had quite a lot of autonomy and although her family might press her to remarry, they didn't have the authority to force her to do so. Life wasn't easy and people often had to choose between less than perfect options but that's entirely different from thinking all our female ancestors were poor little pawns, thrown around and completely controlled without a single saying about it. And the education they got was often because they were expected to manage their husbands' and sons' affairs when they were absent or still too young. Yes, they did so when the man wasn't present or couldn't do it, but for the most part that was expected of them, it was always something that might happen. So the most conscious parents were well aware of the value of educating their daughters.
@@sarahholland2600 Yes! Her father was arranging her first marriage before she was a tween... That is literally the epitome of a pawn. That being said... She probably learned the art of manipulation at her father's knee, which then transitioned into her adult life. We live what we learn. And considering the fact that her brother Cesare was the inspiration for much of Machiavelli's "The Prince", I would dare to venture that she learned from the best manipulators of her time.
@@XofHope I think you have a seriously romanticized idea of exactly how much control even aristocratic women possessed. They were absolutely the properties of their male relatives. But it's not fair to ignore the truly powerful women of that era. Caterina Sforza is a perfect example. She is often maligned for some of her actions (see: Riding into battle at 8 months pregnant) but at other times she is hailed as a hero. I suppose it depended on which family & which side one was on. Catherine Medici is another. Lucrezia as well. I think all of these women have fascinating stories, And like most real people... I think the truth falls somewhere in the middle.
And she may have "taken part in the negotiations of her final marriage"... If her family didn't agree then the new husband would have wound up dead. Just like husband number two & baby daddy #1
Her hair appears darker in some paintings but that was because the pigmentation in the paint used tended to get darker over time. She was, allegedly, very blonde.
The Borgia were not really any more corrupt , ruthless or brutal than any other powerful families of the Italian renaissance , if you were not you would not stay alive for very long , Italian propaganda condemned them because they were Spanish and not Italian .
I just love watching what you do with these. Love the smiling ones, too! Regarding your statement that she may have dyed her hair: Of course, that's possible - but I have also heard that, sometimes, the pigments used by artists back in those centuries would turn darker over the ages, making the subject look like they had dark hair when the original painting showed their true hair color. I'd love to go back in time and see what all of these characters actually DID look like, especially the Tudors!
Fun Fact: Her face and likeness are till this day used by the Catholic Church as the virgin Mary. And her brother was used as the New Christ for the church.
@@user-hg2kd1nz4l it’s actually an interesting part of art history. Cesare had his paintings done in a very specific way, and many of his portraits are mislabeled as depictions of Jesus. In fact most depictions of Jesus that came after him are modeled after his portraits. Feel free to look it up, it’s quite a ride.
Undoubtedly she had intelligence , personality, education and a close-knit rich family. Even an average face was enough in her times to turn heads and secure a formidable reputation; imagine the clothes, jewellery, and self-confidence of being an aristocrat in those times. I am sure she went from strength to strength with time.
In any situation, Lucrezia's beauty was a factor. Women were very jealous of her, an indication that all men's eyes must have turned to look at her when she entered a room. She may have been a little bit of a "Valley Girl" nut she was incapable of the murderous schemes attributed to her. The annulment of her first marriage was politically motivated. Her second marriage was happy. Her third marriage was tolerable.
The debate over her "beauty" may never be solved...however there are certain facts to consider...her family's wealth provided her with a higher quality of food,water,leisure and standard of living ,the ability to purchase elaborate and opulent clothing and adornments,she had means to live a life that did not require any strenuous physical stresses(except maybe childbirth) and access to servants adept at hairstyling and cosmetic applications and personal hygiene standards ..Money can buy a whole realm of beauty enhancements,whatever century yo live in.
Would recommend reading her letters, many are available on the internet and it gives a really great insight into her personality, she seems very sweet to the people she loved but also very strong and really quite scary
In re. Lucrezia's alleged beauty: let's not forget that standards of beauty have changed over these many centuries. There is no need for an argument that Renaissance painting was not capable of realism. Instead, research what was presented as beautiful only a century or two ago: the models have obviously changed. It is more useful to meet the standards of your own time than to be elevated to the standards of future times by spurious argument. Let's also remember that people seem to acquire greater beauty as they acquire more power.
I don't think they changed that much , fair white skin blonde straight hair and blue eyes are still the universal standards . Even in places where everyone are brown .
I LOVED the Canal+ series Borgia! Cesare was so dashing (as played by Mark Ryder). Totally engrossing story. In an age of schemers (Medici etc) they out-schemed the best of them!
Adding to what Sof Be said, rich men had, and have, the opportunity to obtain the most beautiful women, and those genes are passed down to their offspring. That said, there have been women of impoverished birth who were known to be beautiful; we know about it because they married rich men who were historically important. See how that works? Like the prostitute who married an Italian duke, around the time that Lucretia Borgia lived. Her portrait was in a history book that I used at Iowa State University when I was there.
because history/chronicles/journals were written by people that were of good social status (the others most likely couldn't even write), it's no wonder they only named people of their own social circle
@@edennis8578 I understand the points mentioned as to why they are remembered over other people who would have been more attractive but of low birth. I just think it's funny that a number of these rare beauties I've seen in Europe from the past are mostly all high society people from birth and often times aren't they arent perticularly attractive and it's more their status than actual raw beauty that carries them. I have seen a few women that are stunning but they are never the ones regarded in thus way. It's generally the women who were born into upper class that are acknowledged in such a way. More so from what I have seen then the low born women who married into wealth because they were legitimately beautiful.
@@dextersbeard3472 actually up until today i noticed usually highborns are not that beautiful. If they are, its because of an outsider lowborn beautiful genes gave them some nice genes. Because highborns marry for status and theyre not always nice looking so their kids will not look that nice looking. Not always tho but generally speaking
The other Pope's of the time were no different. The Borgias just dared to do so despite not being Italian. Plus their rivals, the Della Rovere family who ruled the Catholic Church after the Borgias created a very successful smear campaign afterwards.
@@christinerobbins9376 just never became a legend like the Borgia family. I think he was more discreet about his children and mistresses, and Lucrezia makes for a perfect femme fatale. Like mythological characters more than real people.
@@Yvonne2214 well said! I grew up in Catholic school, And there is a book with all of the listed popes...minus Alexander VI. I have always found this to be an odd omission, because they are all pretty much guilty of the same stuff. But I think you're right... The combination of the Borgias not being Italian + their lack of discretion may be a huge factor in the omission.
The Borgias being foreign were censored for behaving exactly like most Italian powerful families did. So they became byword for corruption, but all they were doing was: when in Rome, do as Romans do, I suspect.
The first painting is called 'Vanity', by Frank Cadogan Cowper and is more likely to have been posed by a model. I've never heard of it being linked to Lucrezia Borgia but am happy to be corrected. That said, this a great video with great graphics and storytelling.
You are correct. Cowper was one of the last adherents of the Pre-Raphaelite style in the late 19th century and worked from costumed models portraying romantic historical themes, the “Femme Fatale” being a popular subject.
@@haeuptlingaberja4927 Oh, shut it. If you aren't aware, that what we know about history (and especially know with some certainty), is only a fraction of what we would like to know, you clearly know a lot less then I do...
I just want to thank you for bringing these individuals to life and learning their back stories is very interesting. Lucrezia was very beautiful but it is sad how women in general were just political pawns in a man's world. I was glad she thrived when away from her domineering family but still like you said she did what she had to do to survive
Apparently Rodrigo also commissioned a portrait of Julia Farneze as the Virgin Mary... And Cesare is thought to be the model for the version of Christ we see on the cross today
What???.I was Watching The Sherman and Peabody cartoon awhile back ago and they went back in time to meet her.She looked NOTHING like this.😅😅..Fantastic Job.The animations are AMAZING.Great videos
Some say she dyed her hair. It would be easy to find out if this is true. The Biblioteca Ambrosiano in Milan has a large swatch of her hair on display (Lord Byron claimed he stole some of it but there’s a lot left). Getting permission to test it wouldn’t be easy, but some authority could probably do it.
Who cares if she dyed her hair??? What difference would that have made. If you are truly beautiful you can go bald as I once did. It doesn't change raw beauty. I have known some girls who were hailed as pretty girls no one was looking at their faces they were looking at teenage bodies and what do ya know long hair. Well when they no longer could care for it ie. pregnancy and work they cut it AND WOW. Now you could see these girls were no beauties in anyway leastly their personalities which they never worked on because they thought their looks( which they never really had) would carry them. Human beat itself is illusionary because even if someone has it it doesn't last Luke anything else except maybe love.
Coloring hair has been done throughout human history, so this is no big deal. In Lucrezia's case, it was probably done to restore it to a blonder blonde. It was nothing dramatic like going from dark hair to blonde.
@@rosedolch8637 none is saying there are not blond italians ,at least i m not we know that she inherited her blonde looks from k her mother who was purely italian,Vanozza But maybe thru the years her hair darkened like her father who was nnoy italian ,this borjas was from southern spain and he was dark haired and blck eyed man..
The OPERA, 'LUCRETIA BORGIA' is a master piece of Bel Canto of an intriguing 'synopsis of the question of her legendary ambitions mixed inside the following shadows of her posible poisonous deaths with abandoned birth hiers. The opera climax is she finds desperation to save her son but she is 'facing her own hand' in poisoning her son unintentionally. The son is without empathy to her, but of a pleased departure of his life knowing the harm of her role of heartless abandonment and of her hand who poisons. She is left to her own accountability of her ambitions. Thank you for the early histories! Fascinating!
Beauty is subjective. Not saying she's ugly. Just average. To those saying to stop comparing beauty then to today's standards, I just watched Nefertiti on this same channel, and I found her really beautiful.
Once, I read about the Borgias and the author believed that Lucrezia was a victim of her family's ambitions and that while she may have had an unwilling hand in the deaths of her victims, that question is really anyone's guess. She may very well have tried to just survive due to so many enemies of her father and brother. But I remembered reading that her father's death was really grotesque as he was really a serious psychopath. He certainly seems to have been one of the most murderous Popes ever. But I really wondered if Lucrezia herself was murdered by poison.
It is true she poisoned people and she also had red hair. I live and was born in Lucrezia’s town and the castle where she lived is stil here! The town is called Subiaco in the province of Rome :)
Yuk no! Gross, could not give three shits to know how that psychopath looked. She herself wherever she is now probably no longer wants anything to do with that life, so why would anyone want to bring that back to life is beyond me.
@@selmahare I'm just amazed at the length some people would go to just to stay young and beautiful. In that sense, I can relate except for the gross things she did. Besides, some of the featured people here are also more or less psychopathic IMO. I think Cleopatra and the Roman rulers are psychopaths considering that the choices they make affects mostly the civilians. I'm pretty sure they can give shits about what happened to civilians under their rule just so long as they can maintain their own family line and the pomp that came with it. They can pretend that they cared but I bet they never did.
Very interesting video and the face details. To me she's pretty average looking. I think Catherine of Aragon, her sister Juana and Isabel of Portugal were more beautiful
Spaniards were Celts before the Moors ( who make us currently think of them as dark ).. so her blond hair seems possible to me. I have read of a contemporary describing her with long blond hair and a wide beautiful mouth. But I don't know if any of the portraits/paintings are positively of her.
I think the fresco of St Catherine is most likely Lucrezia - it was commissioned by her father for the Borgia Apartments. And she got her blonde hair from her mother. There’s always that misconception people have that Spanish people have dark hair, like you said - the same happens with depictions of Catherine of Aragon in films/tv.
Your pronunciation is fantastic. Maybe a dumb question but how did the nobility dye their hair back then? Did they use bleach and process it like modern hair dressers or did they use another method?
Ash and lye. Cows kidneys also were used. It’s not pretty or easy. It was considered lavish and vain according to the Catholic church so it was frowned upon.
🤓LUCREZIA It derives from the name of Mount Lucretilis della Sabina and from the nickname Lucretius with which the inhabitants of that locality were designated. Lucrezia was the wife of Lucio Tarquinio Collatino, but she was kidnapped and raped by Sesto, son of the Etruscan king, Tarquinio the Superb. Distraught, the woman introduced her in front of her father and husband and after telling of her rape, she killed herself in their presence. And it was this fact, according to legend, that determined the expulsion of the Etruscan kings. Distribution: In Italy there are about 21,014 people named Lucrezia. Characteristics: person with an incredible femininity, she often appears seductive even without wanting it: her mysterious charm of her comes from a mix of determination and vulnerability, courage and shyness. Curiosities: An elegant name that throughout history has been worn by numerous noblewomen, such as Lucrezia Gonzaga, Lucrezia Donati, Lucrezia Borgia, Lucrezia Barberini who was Duchess of Modena, Lucrezia Ordelaffi, who was the second wife of Andrea Malatesta, and many others ; also in the literal field we remember many women so called as the poetess Lucrezia Tornabuooni, Lucrezia Marinelli and Lucrezia Lerro; always in the literal context then Lucrezia can be found among the characters of "La mandragola" by Niccolò Machiavelli. In the world of cinema and TV we remember the actresses Lucrezia Piaggio, Lucrezia Guidone, Lucrezia Lante della Rovere. Finally, please note that the bibliography and filmography, both Italian and non-Italian, are full of references to the character of Lucrezia Borgia as she is one of the best known and most talked about figures of the Italian Renaissance.
The portraits of rich people from that time and later are nearly always been refined and made more beautifull tha than the really were.Many future kings got a small picture their future Queen.When She arrived she was not that beautiful and some were sent back others stayed and they got married but after warfare Thy were sent to another place after they had secured an heir.A part of them got along well.
I read some time ago, that her father was the father of her first child. And that they lived in an I fest relationship throughout her life. This is well known and I don’t doubt it. I really love what you do with the images and we can clearly see how they were, and to be honest this crazy lady was a beauty.
I would love to hear and see what you can find on Beatrice d'este. I am a descendant of that line of d'este. Considering that Lucrezia Borgia married into that line. I truly appreciate the work you put into these videos.
"If you were to serve up one of your meals at Staff HQ, you'd be arrested for the greatest mass poisoning since Lucretia Borgia invited 500 of her close friends for a wine and anthrax party!" - Captain Edmund Blackadder to Private Baldrick regarding his cooking
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Lucrezia truly was beautiful, but the paintings of the time sometimes make people find it difficult to see the appeal until realism is applied. Many paintings of bygone ages reflect beauty ideals of the time that, sometimes, fabricate or exaggerate certain features and a bit of personal charm can be lost as a result. It doesn't surprise me that Lucrezia is very beautiful, the reports of dignitaries and the way she cleared a room upon entering it were profound in detail.
We don’t know what she looked like. The painter probably knew to paint her pretty or else! And none of this crap matters
@@ralphgesler5110 that’s a good point.
The digital artist here is doing the same basic thing. He is reimagining someone else's false imagine.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Definitely, painting styles change as time passes. I find MOST the artists of the time(Save for Leonardo DaVinci)tried to make her look almost angelic in the portraits.🎨
I really love learning about this family In any capacity.
As someone named Lucrezia, you nailed the pronunciation. It's the first time I hear a foreigner say my name correctly lol
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I have the Americanized version.
@@lucretiamaggio6154 Lucretia is also the original Latin version! When I lived in the US no one could pronounce my name correctly. It was always butchered lol (to be fair I had the same problem in France). Is it a problem for you too?
What a lovely name with this pronunciation!!!🤗🤗
Very beautiful name!
Lucrezia was a good mother and really devoted to God in last decade of her life. She was very loved by Alfonso d'Este, her last husband and she found finally some peace, away from her father and her brother Cesare, that had in mind just prestigious power and money. She was very loved also by the people of Ferrara and you can find now her grave here in convent and Corpus Domini. She was buried with her last dead child, Isabella. As Ferrara is my bornplace, I'm very proud of her as the woman she was in an age of men.
Glad you have mentioned this. Have studied Italian history and familiar with her life in Ferrara, and marriage into the duchy of d'Este.
@@hesavedawretchlikeme6902 i'm glad that someone is interest in history of my hometown. Sadly, most of the time Lucrezia is known by her legend and not by the woman (a real woman) she was in the hand of men. Amount of people prefer stopping to what people said and not going deep through an historical research of the person.
She was no pawn. She was a Borgia. She deserves better than to be seen as a witless victim. She wasn't the villainess so many claim her to be, but she was a definite and active part of the Borgia legend. Lucrezia had a knack for charming and befriending everyone who met her. A talent for reading the room and the flexibility to adapt to new roles as needed. She was the good wife and the stern ruler when called to be what she needs to be.
Her family was a big part of her life story. But they weren't just domineering villains, we see from their contemporaries and their letters to each other that her father the Pope and her brother the Duke Valentino loved her dearly. And she loved them back. Pawn implies that she obeyed them out of fear and a sense of authority when it could very well be that she did their bidding out of genuine love for them.
She was _especially_ intimate with Cesare. As apparently he was one of the few people in the world who could cheer her up and make her laugh when things got bad for her. Though remembered as a murderous fox, Cesare comes across as uncharacteristically tender in all their known interactions. Lucrezia on her part, doted after her older brother like a worried mother--and was inconsolable when he finally died in battle.
I think you underestimate how aristocratic women were treated then. They were viewed as practically property of their father, then their husband. Their only 'function' as far as society was concerned, was to make loveless marriages for status & wealth, then produce male heirs. Any education provided was purely to make them socially adept, not to endow them with skills they could utilise.
@@sarahholland2600 And I think you underestimate how some women managed to be regents and even rulers in their own right. How, through charm, intelligence or sheer strength of will many were able to take some control not only over their own lives but the lives of others. Were they entirely free to do as they pleased? No. But I have no idea why some people so deeply enjoy the idea of looking back in History and see women as mere slaves. Did you miss the part where Lucretzia took part in the negotiations of her last marriage? Especially as a widow she would have had quite a lot of autonomy and although her family might press her to remarry, they didn't have the authority to force her to do so. Life wasn't easy and people often had to choose between less than perfect options but that's entirely different from thinking all our female ancestors were poor little pawns, thrown around and completely controlled without a single saying about it.
And the education they got was often because they were expected to manage their husbands' and sons' affairs when they were absent or still too young. Yes, they did so when the man wasn't present or couldn't do it, but for the most part that was expected of them, it was always something that might happen. So the most conscious parents were well aware of the value of educating their daughters.
@@sarahholland2600 Yes! Her father was arranging her first marriage before she was a tween... That is literally the epitome of a pawn. That being said... She probably learned the art of manipulation at her father's knee, which then transitioned into her adult life. We live what we learn. And considering the fact that her brother Cesare was the inspiration for much of Machiavelli's "The Prince", I would dare to venture that she learned from the best manipulators of her time.
@@XofHope I think you have a seriously romanticized idea of exactly how much control even aristocratic women possessed. They were absolutely the properties of their male relatives. But it's not fair to ignore the truly powerful women of that era. Caterina Sforza is a perfect example. She is often maligned for some of her actions (see: Riding into battle at 8 months pregnant) but at other times she is hailed as a hero. I suppose it depended on which family & which side one was on. Catherine Medici is another. Lucrezia as well. I think all of these women have fascinating stories, And like most real people... I think the truth falls somewhere in the middle.
And she may have "taken part in the negotiations of her final marriage"... If her family didn't agree then the new husband would have wound up dead. Just like husband number two & baby daddy #1
Her hair appears darker in some paintings but that was because the pigmentation in the paint used tended to get darker over time. She was, allegedly, very blonde.
Italian ladies used lemon juice to make their hair appear more golden.
She was indeed beautiful, but her life was sad. She was forced to abandon two of her children for her family ambitions.
Yeah..
But atleast she got good education
The Borgia were not really any more corrupt , ruthless or brutal than any other powerful families of the Italian renaissance , if you were not you would not stay alive for very long , Italian propaganda condemned them because they were Spanish and not Italian .
I just love watching what you do with these. Love the smiling ones, too! Regarding your statement that she may have dyed her hair: Of course, that's possible - but I have also heard that, sometimes, the pigments used by artists back in those centuries would turn darker over the ages, making the subject look like they had dark hair when the original painting showed their true hair color. I'd love to go back in time and see what all of these characters actually DID look like, especially the Tudors!
Yes same here.. I would always wonder what they would look like including their real personalities.
Fun Fact: Her face and likeness are till this day used by the Catholic Church as the virgin Mary. And her brother was used as the New Christ for the church.
interesting fact where did you see it?
@@user-hg2kd1nz4l it’s actually an interesting part of art history.
Cesare had his paintings done in a very specific way, and many of his portraits are mislabeled as depictions of Jesus. In fact most depictions of Jesus that came after him are modeled after his portraits. Feel free to look it up, it’s quite a ride.
This is how you know catholicism is false docterine.
damn, that's why she looks familiar 🤯
Undoubtedly she had intelligence , personality, education and a close-knit rich family. Even an average face was enough in her times to turn heads and secure a formidable reputation; imagine the clothes, jewellery, and self-confidence of being an aristocrat in those times. I am sure she went from strength to strength with time.
In any situation, Lucrezia's beauty was a factor. Women were very jealous of her, an indication that all men's eyes must have turned to look at her when she entered a room. She may have been a little bit of a "Valley Girl" nut she was incapable of the murderous schemes attributed to her. The annulment of her first marriage was politically motivated. Her second marriage was happy. Her third marriage was tolerable.
The debate over her "beauty" may never be solved...however there are certain facts to consider...her family's wealth provided her with a higher quality of food,water,leisure and standard of living ,the ability to purchase elaborate and opulent clothing and adornments,she had means to live a life that did not require any strenuous physical stresses(except maybe childbirth) and access to servants adept at hairstyling and cosmetic applications and personal hygiene standards ..Money can buy a whole realm of beauty enhancements,whatever century yo live in.
Your voice is very soothing. Thank you for these portraits
She was so beautiful. Good narrative voice and effects. Good job!!!!!
She was definitely beautiful but like someone said before, her life was sad. This was such a good video and very interesting!
Well, through out history, a lot of famously beautiful women have a sad life.
You have a very relaxing voice ☺️ Amazing content - thank you!
Your channel is the best best best!🤩
Would recommend reading her letters, many are available on the internet and it gives a really great insight into her personality, she seems very sweet to the people she loved but also very strong and really quite scary
oof but they’re all in a different language 😭😭
@@SonodaSymphony they’re in old Italian but there are plenty of really great translations!
TY for this interesting, unique upload. I enjoy the history recap U provide along with the animated portrait. AWESOME♻
In re. Lucrezia's alleged beauty: let's not forget that standards of beauty have changed over these many centuries. There is no need for an argument that Renaissance painting was not capable of realism. Instead, research what was presented as beautiful only a century or two ago: the models have obviously changed. It is more useful to meet the standards of your own time than to be elevated to the standards of future times by spurious argument. Let's also remember that people seem to acquire greater beauty as they acquire more power.
I don't think they changed that much , fair white skin blonde straight hair and blue eyes are still the universal standards . Even in places where everyone are brown .
@@expectopatronummf yeah its pretty much the same nowadays as it was then
@@expectopatronummf in what world?.🤣😂😂. Not where i come from.
@Nafissa Mouloudi Wow you are a weirdo.
@@expectopatronummf unfortunate
Thanks for the video 🙏👍
Very interesting. I’m so glad I’ve found your channel. God bless from Rome Georgia ❤️
Wow … she was really beautiful. This was quite interesting and informative.
What great information! Bless you. So interesting!
She seems beautiful and haughty ... but on the inside she was also dark and cruel. 🤔Thank you for this brilliant work! So much fun to watch. 👍🤗♥️🇩🇪
I LOVED the Canal+ series Borgia! Cesare was so dashing (as played by Mark Ryder). Totally engrossing story. In an age of schemers (Medici etc) they out-schemed the best of them!
Notice it's never someone without serious social status that's revered for being the most beautiful.
wouldnt be known otherwise. Add to that the education that they got. the poorer people hardly had any chance to even wash themselves.
Adding to what Sof Be said, rich men had, and have, the opportunity to obtain the most beautiful women, and those genes are passed down to their offspring. That said, there have been women of impoverished birth who were known to be beautiful; we know about it because they married rich men who were historically important. See how that works? Like the prostitute who married an Italian duke, around the time that Lucretia Borgia lived. Her portrait was in a history book that I used at Iowa State University when I was there.
because history/chronicles/journals were written by people that were of good social status (the others most likely couldn't even write), it's no wonder they only named people of their own social circle
@@edennis8578 I understand the points mentioned as to why they are remembered over other people who would have been more attractive but of low birth. I just think it's funny that a number of these rare beauties I've seen in Europe from the past are mostly all high society people from birth and often times aren't they arent perticularly attractive and it's more their status than actual raw beauty that carries them. I have seen a few women that are stunning but they are never the ones regarded in thus way. It's generally the women who were born into upper class that are acknowledged in such a way. More so from what I have seen then the low born women who married into wealth because they were legitimately beautiful.
@@dextersbeard3472 actually up until today i noticed usually highborns are not that beautiful. If they are, its because of an outsider lowborn beautiful genes gave them some nice genes. Because highborns marry for status and theyre not always nice looking so their kids will not look that nice looking. Not always tho but generally speaking
The other Pope's of the time were no different. The Borgias just dared to do so despite not being Italian. Plus their rivals, the Della Rovere family who ruled the Catholic Church after the Borgias created a very successful smear campaign afterwards.
Amen. I don't know why Della rovere gets a pass... He was just as debauched as Rodrigo
@@christinerobbins9376 just never became a legend like the Borgia family. I think he was more discreet about his children and mistresses, and Lucrezia makes for a perfect femme fatale. Like mythological characters more than real people.
@@Yvonne2214 well said! I grew up in Catholic school, And there is a book with all of the listed popes...minus Alexander VI. I have always found this to be an odd omission, because they are all pretty much guilty of the same stuff. But I think you're right... The combination of the Borgias not being Italian + their lack of discretion may be a huge factor in the omission.
True. They were all dirtbags. The Borgias just seem to have had more flair and drama to their conniving than others.
A very slytherin type family...LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣
Thank you soo much for what you have done to bring these people to life. 😊
It's my pleasure
I saw 2 movies about the family. Your program was very interesting.
This was so interesting to watch. I love the study of historical personae. Congratulations. I've just subscribed the channel.
Bond hair in Renaissance paintings tend to turn brown with age.
Is it bad that I still remember a bunch of names in the video from the Horrible Histories song about the Borgias?
No
I remember it from watching my husband playing assassin’s creed lol
Really like this video!!! Thank you for sharing! Please a video of her brother or more family members????
Lucrezia was incredibly beautiful. l watched the series The Borgias. It was brilliant.
I watched both the Showtime series "The Borgias" and the Canal TV series. Both were excellent.
Great channel!!!
i kinda love that this famously treacherous woman literally looked like an angel. just golden and sweet.
Most do, lol.
Beautiful video
Thank you
The Borgias being foreign were censored for behaving exactly like most Italian powerful families did. So they became byword for corruption, but all they were doing was: when in Rome, do as Romans do, I suspect.
WONDERFUL VIDEO TY
The first painting is called 'Vanity', by Frank Cadogan Cowper and is more likely to have been posed by a model. I've never heard of it being linked to Lucrezia Borgia but am happy to be corrected. That said, this a great video with great graphics and storytelling.
You are correct. Cowper was one of the last adherents of the Pre-Raphaelite style in the late 19th century and worked from costumed models portraying romantic historical themes, the “Femme Fatale” being a popular subject.
Love your videos!
Excellent presentation!
All women are beautiful back in time and these times.thank you for this history always interesting.
Amazing video.
Very interesting. Wish, we could know more about these times and the people, who lived through it.
Brace yourself: there are these places called "libraries" and in them there are these amazing things called "books"...
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Oh, shut it. If you aren't aware, that what we know about history (and especially know with some certainty), is only a fraction of what we would like to know, you clearly know a lot less then I do...
I just want to thank you for bringing these individuals to life and learning their back stories is very interesting. Lucrezia was very beautiful but it is sad how women in general were just political pawns in a man's world. I was glad she thrived when away from her domineering family but still like you said she did what she had to do to survive
Please can you do the last Sicilian Bandit, Salvatore Giuliano, I love your work.
Great video!
GOT fans out there? I always thought the character Cersei was based on Lucrezia
Apparently Rodrigo also commissioned a portrait of Julia Farneze as the Virgin Mary... And Cesare is thought to be the model for the version of Christ we see on the cross today
Cesare was a very handsome young man. Unfortunately he contracted syphilis which led to his looks being ravaged before his death in his early 30s
What???.I was Watching The Sherman and Peabody cartoon awhile back ago and they went back in time to meet her.She looked NOTHING like this.😅😅..Fantastic Job.The animations are AMAZING.Great videos
I love the way you say her name 😁
Some say she dyed her hair. It would be easy to find out if this is true. The Biblioteca Ambrosiano in Milan has a large swatch of her hair on display (Lord Byron claimed he stole some of it but there’s a lot left). Getting permission to test it wouldn’t be easy, but some authority could probably do it.
Who cares if she dyed her hair??? What difference would that have made. If you are truly beautiful you can go bald as I once did. It doesn't change raw beauty. I have known some girls who were hailed as pretty girls no one was looking at their faces they were looking at teenage bodies and what do ya know long hair. Well when they no longer could care for it ie. pregnancy and work they cut it AND WOW. Now you could see these girls were no beauties in anyway leastly their personalities which they never worked on because they thought their looks( which they never really had) would carry them. Human beat itself is illusionary because even if someone has it it doesn't last Luke anything else except maybe love.
Coloring hair has been done throughout human history, so this is no big deal. In Lucrezia's case, it was probably done to restore it to a blonder blonde. It was nothing dramatic like going from dark hair to blonde.
A lot of Italians are blond, especially when we are younger and being outside.. I always had blond streaks..
@@rosedolch8637 none is saying there are not blond italians ,at least i m not
we know that she inherited her blonde looks from k her mother who was purely italian,Vanozza
But maybe thru the years her hair darkened like her father who was nnoy italian ,this borjas was from southern spain and he was dark haired and blck eyed man..
who cares?!
I love your vids
Absolutely beautiful.
A very good presentation.
The OPERA, 'LUCRETIA BORGIA' is a master piece of Bel Canto of an intriguing 'synopsis of the question of her legendary ambitions mixed inside the following shadows of her posible poisonous deaths with abandoned birth hiers. The opera climax is she finds desperation to save her son but she is 'facing her own hand' in poisoning her son unintentionally. The son is without empathy to her, but of a pleased departure of his life knowing the harm of her role of heartless abandonment and of her hand who poisons. She is left to her own accountability of her ambitions. Thank you for the early histories! Fascinating!
Beauty is subjective. Not saying she's ugly. Just average. To those saying to stop comparing beauty then to today's standards, I just watched Nefertiti on this same channel, and I found her really beautiful.
The painter was probably being to kind to her. Especially when her dad was the pope!
Once, I read about the Borgias and the author believed that Lucrezia was a victim of her family's ambitions and that while she may have had an unwilling hand in the deaths of her victims, that question is really anyone's guess. She may very well have tried to just survive due to so many enemies of her father and brother. But I remembered reading that her father's death was really grotesque as he was really a serious psychopath. He certainly seems to have been one of the most murderous Popes ever. But I really wondered if Lucrezia herself was murdered by poison.
Yes she truly was a beauty
It is true she poisoned people and she also had red hair. I live and was born in Lucrezia’s town and the castle where she lived is stil here! The town is called Subiaco in the province of Rome :)
"Borgia...no family name conjures up more images of depravity, cruelty, and immorality"
Me: Never heard of them before 🤦♀️😂
Awesome
Ah, yes, the standard American response to absolutely everything. Dah-yup, dah-yup...
If she wasn't beautiful her charm and money were attractive. Who knows how she really looked?
Please do Elizabeth Bathory next hopefully.
Yuk no! Gross, could not give three shits to know how that psychopath looked. She herself wherever she is now probably no longer wants anything to do with that life, so why would anyone want to bring that back to life is beyond me.
@@selmahare I'm just amazed at the length some people would go to just to stay young and beautiful. In that sense, I can relate except for the gross things she did. Besides, some of the featured people here are also more or less psychopathic IMO. I think Cleopatra and the Roman rulers are psychopaths considering that the choices they make affects mostly the civilians. I'm pretty sure they can give shits about what happened to civilians under their rule just so long as they can maintain their own family line and the pomp that came with it. They can pretend that they cared but I bet they never did.
I think she was definitely a pawn. Seems her last marriage was successful. Probably because he got her away from her family.
Have you made a vid like this for Cesare Borgia yet?
Very interesting video and the face details. To me she's pretty average looking. I think Catherine of Aragon, her sister Juana and Isabel of Portugal were more beautiful
You should do King Francis II, I feel like he's underrated.
We really have to think of Celebrity “beauty” as a completely different ball game during this period
Lucrecia was absolutely beautiful, also intelligent , educated and with kind heart.
Spaniards were Celts before the Moors ( who make us currently think of them as dark ).. so her blond hair seems possible to me. I have read of a contemporary describing her with long blond hair and a wide beautiful mouth. But I don't know if any of the portraits/paintings are positively of her.
I think the fresco of St Catherine is most likely Lucrezia - it was commissioned by her father for the Borgia Apartments. And she got her blonde hair from her mother. There’s always that misconception people have that Spanish people have dark hair, like you said - the same happens with depictions of Catherine of Aragon in films/tv.
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The mother was Roman
What about the supposed rumors with her brother?
Your pronunciation is fantastic. Maybe a dumb question but how did the nobility dye their hair back then? Did they use bleach and process it like modern hair dressers or did they use another method?
Ash and lye. Cows kidneys also were used. It’s not pretty or easy.
It was considered lavish and vain according to the Catholic church so it was frowned upon.
Could you do Anne of Cleves?
The series Pope Borgia was good, her brother was obsessed with her though🤢 One of the Borgia sons is the depiction of Jesus
I felt bad for her she never had any say so in her marriages.its truly was a mans world
Her third she did
One thing she was lucky to NOT inherit from her Father was his NOSE!!!
Yep!
🤓LUCREZIA
It derives from the name of Mount Lucretilis della Sabina and from the nickname Lucretius with which the inhabitants of that locality were designated. Lucrezia was the wife of Lucio Tarquinio Collatino, but she was kidnapped and raped by Sesto, son of the Etruscan king, Tarquinio the Superb. Distraught, the woman introduced her in front of her father and husband and after telling of her rape, she killed herself in their presence. And it was this fact, according to legend, that determined the expulsion of the Etruscan kings.
Distribution: In Italy there are about 21,014 people named Lucrezia.
Characteristics: person with an incredible femininity, she often appears seductive even without wanting it: her mysterious charm of her comes from a mix of determination and vulnerability, courage and shyness.
Curiosities: An elegant name that throughout history has been worn by numerous noblewomen, such as Lucrezia Gonzaga, Lucrezia Donati, Lucrezia Borgia, Lucrezia Barberini who was Duchess of Modena, Lucrezia Ordelaffi, who was the second wife of Andrea Malatesta, and many others ; also in the literal field we remember many women so called as the poetess Lucrezia Tornabuooni, Lucrezia Marinelli and Lucrezia Lerro; always in the literal context then Lucrezia can be found among the characters of "La mandragola" by Niccolò Machiavelli. In the world of cinema and TV we remember the actresses Lucrezia Piaggio, Lucrezia Guidone, Lucrezia Lante della Rovere. Finally, please note that the bibliography and filmography, both Italian and non-Italian, are full of references to the character of Lucrezia Borgia as she is one of the best known and most talked about figures of the Italian Renaissance.
She looks like Dante Gabriel Rossetti painted her?
Yeah, that’s a representation of the model Rossetti used not the real LB
This is amazing.
Cesar was not mentioned?
in Milano there is her fair hair exhibited in Biblioteca Ambrosiana. I must say it is quite a fetish!
J’aimerais bien que vos vidéos soit traduit en français. Merci à vous
The portraits of rich people from that time and later are nearly always been refined and made more beautifull tha than the really were.Many future kings got a small picture their future Queen.When She arrived she was not that beautiful and some were sent back others stayed and they got married but after warfare Thy were sent to another place after they had secured an heir.A part of them got along well.
The 3d pictures really frek me out xD
I think it's safe to say that narcissism was rampant among all of the clergy 😂
Would you plz do some work on ottomans
I read some time ago, that her father was the father of her first child. And that they lived in an I fest relationship throughout her life. This is well known and I don’t doubt it.
I really love what you do with the images and we can clearly see how they were, and to be honest this crazy lady was a beauty.
So Slytherin their last name might as well be the noble and ancient house of Black!
It feels like it is Britney Spears story in a kind of way.
Wow the real life snow white🥰
I can't even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday. My brain is a sieve. 🧠 😫
Maybe this story should be a movie
make this animation for queen Padmini of chittor
Omg my favourite.btw my cat is called lucrezia Borgia. she's from Rome
I would love to hear and see what you can find on Beatrice d'este. I am a descendant of that line of d'este. Considering that Lucrezia Borgia married into that line. I truly appreciate the work you put into these videos.
"If you were to serve up one of your meals at Staff HQ, you'd be arrested for the greatest mass poisoning since Lucretia Borgia invited 500 of her close friends for a wine and anthrax party!" - Captain Edmund Blackadder to Private Baldrick regarding his cooking
They should make a movie about her