@@Quint_69 Don't worry it's a slow burner. Give it a week or two and you'll be laughing like somebody who read a comment on YT they thought was amusing.
stuff like this happens through binning. These are low quality chips that didn't pass QA, so they cut them down to ensure they work as a stable, low-price card rather than deal with rma requests. Corn (and other manufacturers) may not know the capabilities of each individual chip, they tend to be bought in bulk with the assumption that the are anywhere from 5%-25% less capable than higher binned chips.
This card probably doesn't deserve another video nor a revisit, but just to add, I unlocked my own VBIOS, it's fairly easy, and with the Polaris BIOS editor you can OC the card and increase the Current Limit and TDP Limit (mine takes around 85W purely from the PCI Express slot) and it works flawlessly. Instead of flashing other cards VBIOS which come with their own set of problems you could just unlock the stock VBIOS yourself. And btw, great video!
@@franklinventura954 did you try using the onboard or another GPU? If you can still see the GPU you might stand a chance of flashing it. Probably binned it by now though.
I have to give credit where credits due. That was pretty damn clever. My family thinks i'm some sort of computer guru because I fix and build computers but I keep telling them that their are people out there who know a hell of a lot more than I do and you are one of them
is it not possible that under-volting the card would help with the power issues by lowering the wattage require to hit higher clock speeds? Might be worth a punt.
If it is actually is a 560D, they are BIOS capped... but you should try a shader stress test to make sure all shaders are functional. To OC: undervolt the core until of crashes, step up voltage and try upping the core clock, do not touch mem. As far as i could see, mem isnt cooled so all mem should be dialed down ;) which gives you more powerbudget to feed the core
Good work unlocking the full potential of this card. Please try and fit a 6-pin socket to the card for more power and over-clocking potential in a future video.
for future reference, you dont actually need to use a bios editor, you can just open cmd in the amdvbflash directory and use the command amdvbflash -f -p pathtobios.rom
Dawid Does Tech Stuff if you look at the Wikipedia page it shows which PCIe pins are ground and 12v, you can either solder the 6 pin to the motherboard or to the card, preferably to the card so it has perfect contact (you can grind or sand down the coating to reveal the traces if needed, which is what you do with the Epower board typically after you chop the card in half, also the Epower V board isn’t very expensive and I got one on sale for like $100, so check EBay, lol!) Then you de-restrict the power limit with Polaris bios editor then run ATImdag patches and voila you’ve got it! Or use an X399 board, as they have a 6 pin for the GPUs on the board, the power limit should be like ~150w through the slot without any issue would be my guess. There are other ways as well (some x16 riser cables have a Molex assist for power, though I’ve found they need foil wrapping to prevent EMI interference on the cheap $5 cables leading to sporadic instability and system crashes).
Im a bit of a noob but couldnt you janky solder fit a 6/8 pin connection to it? To increase its power intake. I know this might be dangerous in a way but surely something can be done to see what this wierd cards capable of? Keep going im loving these odd videos you do 👍
Gotta say my thanks to you for teching me the art of vbios modding and vbios flashing. Being a bit serious now. Your demonstration of fixing that Corn RX560 was a great help for me to get my XFX RX560 4gb Double Dissipation to the right bios. Weirdly it had the bios of an RX560D (XFX RX560 4gb Wolf Warrior Edition) even though the pcb was for the Double Dissipation version (RX560 with 1024 shaders) which I noticed due to the pressence of the 6pin pcie power connector. I was able to flash it to what it is supposed to be with no problems and I didn't experience any weirdness with power limit being hit easily or frequencies not being right. Though in the first place I shouldn't have this RX560 as I ordered an RX550 4gb from a used seller from China but instead got this XFX RX560 4gb. Weird that I got the wrong card but not complaining since I got a better one. No idea if the seller ran out of RX550s and sent me this but they could have also confused them as they look pretty much the same being both XFX Double Dissipation version cards.
Sapphire bios versions are pretty much on the ragged edge for clock speeds already on the RX550/560 pulse variants, you really don't get much more performance attempting an overclock as they pretty much are out of the box.
I dont mean to spam but Do you think you could do a video on the intel core i3 3220 I know u probably get questions like this all the time, and for that I'm sorry. But I just got one and u haven't done a video yet. Ur my favorite channel to watch when it comes to older pc hardware, and thus this would be an amazing video for me to watch... Just an idea please do it... Happy holidays. XD P.S. good luck with the COPPA stuff
BIOS flashing is a godsend. I bought an ASUS R9 290 back in 2014. I buddy of mine told me that it is essentially an R9 290X with cut cores in the BIOS. I flashed an R9 290X BIOS onto my card and have been playing with an R9 290X BIOS on my R9 290 for close to 4 years now. the card had 0 issues. I used the ASUS R9 290X bios, not the stock or reference BIOS. There is an asus Directcu II R9 290 and 290X and for me the BIOS is interchangeable. At the time the 290X was selling for 500$ and I got the 290 for $314 from Newegg that year(2014). Saved me a PRETTY penny on that one.
So the Chinese characters on the cooler says "Jingying", which is a very interesting brand of graphics cards here in China. Their graphics cards are usually very cheap here, and you can only find them in one shop on Taobao (the domestic version of Ali-Express). I think their RX560 retails for about 50-55USD here, so the value is actually much better. Same for all their other graphics cards. They're usually significantly cheaper than other reputable brands, but there are just quirks and cheap-outs here and there, so they've really created a (sort-of) fan base following, with another group of people criticizing it. Basically, if you buy something that works, good for you. But if it breaks, I've heard that the tech support and RMA staff are pretty unresponsive and it could take a long time to get replacement. I've personally bought their "GTX460" back in the day, it was really weird with 384sp active, which isn't the GTX460 (336sp. 288sp for 460SE) but GTX560Ti specs. However, the GPU reads GF104, which indicates GTX400 series, not the GF114 found on GTX500 series. So it's really weird, and this was when the GTX600 series were on the horizon IIRC, so a "brand-new" GTX400 was unlikely. Also, no one seems to know for sure where they got there GPUs from. Obviously, not being an AIB/AIC, they can't get them directly from Nvidia/AMD. Word is that they get them from some other branded AIB/AICs, but no one knows for sure. Anyways, back in Kepler days, they sold a GTX670 that actually used GTX680M (mobile) GPUs from (allegedly) some laptop manufacturer. If you look it up, the GTX680M and the GTX670 have the exact core specs, but the 680M is clocked quite a bit lower (~700MHz base) than the GTX670 (900MHz), so there was quite a bit of debate whether this much factory OC was acceptable from a stability standpoint. So I guess is if you're looking into cheap, quirky GPUs, this seems like a good brand to start with.
Just a tip AMD graphics cards are only limited in power draw by the BIOS not by sensors on the connectors like Nvidia cards. So if you flash a 200W BIOS onto a 6-pin less RX 560 then it'll draw up to 200W from the PCIE connector.
could the onboard fans be taken off for a higher stable clock and using a 120/140mm fan using system power instead? it'll save the extra wattage like off with the shroud and fans and on with on with one big one and zip-ties. similar note: i chopped up the fan that came with my ryzen 5 3600x and it fits perfectly in replacement of the stock fan on my MSI r7 360 OC 2gb gddr5 and the cable from the new "GPU FAN" is long enough to get to a fan header. think most new motherboard bios's are capable of monitoring pcie temps. mine does
Dawid, FYI... that same windows app "can" run in command line mode and there is a force switch (you can get the switches from command line help). I used it all the time with the manual editor also when overclocking cards for mining years ago.
it works on any of those RX cards, just use the bios from the same company (usually) took my old sapphire rx480 and made it a 580 in maybe 2-3 minutes and it works perfect, but all u get is higher clocks.
You don't need to edit the VGABIOS. You can force it to flash anything to the card you want, you just need to use the command line tool instead of the GUI. Just open a (admin) command prompt, go to the ATIWinFlash folder and run "atiwinflash -f -p 0 file.ROM". This will ignore the mismatch and run anyway. You may need to run "atiwinflash -unlockrom 0" beforehand.
Interestingly enough GoPro did the same thing with the Hero 2018 and the Hero 5. (Limited the hero 2018 and made it a budget option even though it was the same as the hero 5 to keep the hero 5 relevant)
@@itstheweirdguy If you use the command prompt variant of ATIFlash64 (it comes in the same zip folder from techpowerup), you can set a flag ( I believe it is -f and -p if memory serves me right) to ignore mismatched subsystemIDs. This is about knowing what is possible with the tools at your disposal. Editing the GPU bios is a valid option, I am simply saying that an even easier option exists.
If it helps now, it doesn't really mean that the bios doesn't belong to the graphics, it has to do actually sometimes with the memory supplier. I had an issue with a 470 and I was trying to install a BIOS which the memory was from Samsung but mine was from Hynex. After checking the BIOS info and putting a new one in there, boom I was able to flash it without any problem.
It could be that the chip itself is set to run at a certain speed so you can't actually get it to run faster (ie. it's actually hard-coded into the chip or there is another chip on the board--not part of the BIOS--that limits its speed or controls the speed.
I'm not sure the bios succeeded in unlocking any extra cores. The performance gains were in line with the clock speed increases (17%), not the multiplicative performance boost of 14% more cores + 17% higher clocks.
I have an RX 470. I was trying to overclock it with MSI Afterburner at first but it didn't work. I ended up being able to overclock my RX 470 to 1400 Mhz on the core using the AMD Software that comes with the drivers. It ran stable up until I got new thermal paste. (The new thermal paste was of a lesser quality.)
@@ayuchanayuko no. I had one. At 85hz nausea is not an issue. With Trinitron flat eye strain is a non issue unless you game for 24hrs non stop. True blacks. Zero motion blur. 1000 nits luminance. Cheaper than OLED. Zero lag. Come on. Let's bring CRT back. 👍
@@johnathanpearson3203 I've played with CRTs since 2000s. Played on a syncmaster and photoshopped there like there's no tomorrow. True it feels better with 75Hz up, but I wouldn't go back for the eyestrain. It also looks "fluidly delayed" as if I'm on a boat. Not going back to that. I can still play a bit from time to time for some PS2 and retro games or watching my old DVDs. I even think I ruined my eyes because of looking at CRTs for too long. Then degaussing the damn thing from time to time made my brain feel like it got reset. IPS now has, for me, achieved a nice balance of space, power, color, and brightness. If we compared average TN LCDs I would agree with CRTs with color reproduction, but not with modern LCDs like IPS and OLED. Though have you tried plasma? If dark blacks is what you want, plasma marries CRT color and light advantages with LCD power and space advantages. OLEDs can also be comparable (see psvita gen1). Edit: I also grew tired of the high-pitched sound it makes. I can hear when someone turns on a CRT monitor or TV somewhere and it gives me migraines if exposed too long. Back then I didn't even know how I was able to bear it until CRTs went out of fashion and I was exposed to them again. But that's just me, most people I guess don't even hear or recognize the sound.
@@ayuchanayuko fair enough. My experience was different. I like OLED but right now the cheapest 24 inch 1080p OLED is £4000. I can't find a plasma with a VGA input or DVI. Worth a look. Thanks.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't shader cores (Stream Processors on the AMD platform) physical hardware-based cores? So by flashing 'more shader cores' isn't that like downloading RAM? Maybe the number looks bigger, but at the end of the day, it's literally impossible to add more cores. Unless of course, shader cores are logical cores (Like in hyperthreading on a CPU), or the RX560 has 'locked cores' on the chip.
I'd like to ask something. So, my brother has an RX 560 D (Sapphire Pulse 4GB) and I'd like to flash it's bios with the RX 560 bios from the same model (Sapphire Pulse 4GB). Will it work ?
Just one question is this decent for gaming i bought this for my pc and I have not tried this yet I just want to know if it’s good if your put your graphics to mid range in game
IDU why GPU card makers and MOBO makers get together and put the power supply pins on the MOBO in front of card slot, so when you plug video card in to slot, it also plugs in to power pins as many as it needs to take up. They would need to seperate the extra power slot from rest of mobo circuitry.
Dell does the same thing. The old Inspiron 5675 can come with a 560b, which is a cut down version, like the 560D. Of course they don't label it as such. In fact, Dell has a history of using underperforming GPUs
Hi there! You could have actually fixed that ID mismatch by using the DOS version of the BIOS flasher and running some commands to 'unlock' it. If anyone needs it and has trouble finding it on Google, I'll be happy to link it.
Usually, CPUs and GPUs that have locked processors are originally a higher product with defects, a quad core with 1 or 2 imperfect cores turned to a dual core, etc... It's always better to just buy a higher product than buying a lower one and expecting unlocking to make it better, it's more of a gamble and it's not made for that.
I had a card here a few yrs back that didn't have a power connector on it but it had the unpopulated spot for it so i just added one to it from a dead donor card, and was all set to over clock it..
Hi there. RX 560 Owner from the future. To anyone who owns this card or to Dawid who wanted to know why the overclock didn't go well, it's because MSI afterburner doesn't play nicely with it. You'd need to use the AMD Radeon criver software to raise the power limit and manually bump the clocks and voltage yourself. Got mine to 1469 on the core and 2000Mhz on the memory.......you're maybe getting between 11-23% of a performance increase depending on the game tho
@@alfredomorales9467 i dont know much about the graphics card and when i launch the cpuz app it tells me that it is a rx560 so i dont know if they have flashed the card or something or it is a normal rx560
I think it would be nice tu have a video where you compare the Msi GT730 2G ans the Msi GT730 4G and benchmark them to see if any difference and if the 4G version has more or less overclocking advantage 🤔
Kinda late and you might already know this, but AMD cards are better to overclock in WattMan, Afterburner isn't an ideal utility for this. I recently bought an rx5500 xt 8gb on sale to tinker with, first tried Afterburner for overclocking and had similar weird behavior, then tried the Tuning utility in Adrenalin and it actually worked way better. If you ever revisit this card, or want to overclock an AMD gpu in general, might wanna try using the AMD software first. Mileage may wary though.
1: VBIOS editing is the only surefire way to permanently push limits on Radeon cards as there are software/BIOS/PowerPlay limits in place. Try to OC with different tools. I found that using the built-in Radeon 2020 drivers and Sapphire's OC tool gives me proper OC clocks and voltage. Increase your limits by editing the BIOS accordingly. Its just limits, not the actual running clocks. 2: Polaris likes memclocks a LOT. Polaris is also so power-efficient you can undervolt it and it still works. Therefore you should try to lower gpu voltage for that anemic heatsink and increase memory clocks based on what chips it has (I remember samsung chips are the better ones). The new Radeon drivers even lets you control memory TIMINGS not just clocks too! Polaris responds a lot more positively in the FPS and frametime department with faster and tighter memclocks. 3: Make sure to put board power to its max +50%.
I got this card for my dad's pc recently. Although, I haven't been able to get any other bios onto it to unlock the additional shader cores. I've tried all available 4G RX 560 on techpowerup. It keeps giving me ID mismatch. Any suggestions?
Rewatch this video as this guy perfectly says what he done to bypass mismatched id In other cases just force flash but keep copy of original bios. I know it's probably 8 months too late lol
Have an idea how to See how much vram the card Haß:in Apex legends u can limit vram usage to this-1-2gb-2-4-6-8 gbs vram and then just See how much it uses
Duuuude, i bought an Rx 470d from china and I want to try to re flash the bios from it to get better performance and unlock all the cores, how can I properly do this and what are the risks(because this is my first graphics card and I spend all my money on it) please it will help me a lot :"D and ohh, greetings from Paraguay, here the graphics card are almost 5 times more expensive than in other countries and don't even talk about Argentina, that's another history xd
I bought the Corn Rx 580 For 100 bucks, Didn't even have to flash it because it had a dual bios switch on the PCB, a simple flick of the switch let me boot the card with the stock "un modified" bios. I highly reccommend it to any one trying to pick up a cheap card!! I bought it almost a year ago, took the card apart, verified it was an actual REAL 580, it overclocks very well (as good as my other 580 I bought at microcenter). Benchmarks were good, sorry that you were irritated with your card. But the reason that they modified the card was because it is a mining card that has been flashed for power efficiency. Thats why the clocks AND TDP are limited. Corn is well known in china for being a slightly shady company, chances are they bought and then resold these gpu's from a huge bitcoin/crypto currency mining farm/warehouse. Hope this answers some of your questions about the card. IF you would have splurged and got the Corn 580 like I did, all you would have had to do was flick the dual bios switch and you would've had a fully working RX 580... I bought mine when Rx 580's were still going for 180 up to 220 USD, while I only paid 100, and performance was great so all I can say is it was a hell of a good bargain. EDIT: I just checked my email for the reciept of my purchase, and I actually only Paid $89!!
Also, you can't really be that mad at Corn, at least they sold you a WORKING card that was actually what was promised on the Advertisement, Unlike scam sites like WISH.com ... Most normal consumers wouldn't even be looking at a card like this. I assume it would've taken too much labor/manhours for Corn to reflash the stock bios on these cards. They probably stuck it in a tester PC, made sure it booted, and moved onto the next card. Also, there ARE cards sold oversea's in China that are specifically underclocked and with lower TDP For the purpose of mining, and they come with that bios flashed when the card is brand new from the factory. Either you got one of these brand new cards that was meant to be a mining card, or Corn resold these from a crypto mining farm and the miners flashed the card to its current state. Either way, from what I remember when I bought mine, these cards are a great deal because they are 1. Cheap 2. Actually what they advertised them to be and 3. They WORK.
Actually I saw plenty of rx560 with 14CU while there are with 16 and you need to be very careful when you select one. Note according to wiki 560D has lover memory frequency. If you see 1750 than it is 560 with 14 cu instead of 16. I bought 16cu/4G one from MSI because I wanted one without external power connector and in very small form factor.
when life gives you corn graphics, make cornbread graphics.
😂
It was corny but it gets a pass for being punny.
hehe
when life gived you gpu make nu metal
Thats a god joke
You need to go full Chuck Norris and add an external power socket 😉
Strap a generator to it, now that's full Chuck Norris.
I should ask EVGA for one of those E-power things so I can make Chuck Norris proud. :D
@@DawidDoesTechStuff u should
@@ultrademigod not funny didn't laugh.
@@Quint_69 Don't worry it's a slow burner.
Give it a week or two and you'll be laughing like somebody who read a comment on YT they thought was amusing.
So, I just need to download the BIOS that says Kickass and skip the one that says Lame. Got it!
Exaclty! 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff thiddy
How have I not found this channel yet. Thus is fantastic
Thank you very much. 😃
stuff like this happens through binning. These are low quality chips that didn't pass QA, so they cut them down to ensure they work as a stable, low-price card rather than deal with rma requests. Corn (and other manufacturers) may not know the capabilities of each individual chip, they tend to be bought in bulk with the assumption that the are anywhere from 5%-25% less capable than higher binned chips.
Just wanted to let you know, this is my most favourite channel on YT atm.
Thank you! That it very nice if you to say. 😃
Dawid: "This video is going to be very s..."
My Mind: "Please say silly!"
Dawid: "serious"
Very serious. 😂
# cornybaby ?
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I like how in the first could seconds you already pounded the table and looked down nervously😂
That's the content i subbed for, having fun experimenting with computer stuff.
I'm glad you have been subbed for so long. 😃
This card probably doesn't deserve another video nor a revisit, but just to add, I unlocked my own VBIOS, it's fairly easy, and with the Polaris BIOS editor you can OC the card and increase the Current Limit and TDP Limit (mine takes around 85W purely from the PCI Express slot) and it works flawlessly. Instead of flashing other cards VBIOS which come with their own set of problems you could just unlock the stock VBIOS yourself.
And btw, great video!
yoo please read i neeed help a did what he did and now it wont display
@@franklinventura954 did you try using the onboard or another GPU?
If you can still see the GPU you might stand a chance of flashing it.
Probably binned it by now though.
I have to give credit where credits due. That was pretty damn clever. My family thinks i'm some sort of computer guru because I fix and build computers but I keep telling them that their are people out there who know a hell of a lot more than I do and you are one of them
is it not possible that under-volting the card would help with the power issues by lowering the wattage require to hit higher clock speeds?
Might be worth a punt.
Was the first thing I thought when he say it haven't aditional power conector
The conventional wisdom is to always undervolt polaris
@@smeezekitty The Chuck Norris wisdom is to overvolt the crap out of it and use LN2 with a custom bios.
Then what's going to give you stability at the higher clock speed smart guy
@@virtualtools_3021 Chuck Norris just wants to watch the world burn.
If it is actually is a 560D, they are BIOS capped... but you should try a shader stress test to make sure all shaders are functional.
To OC: undervolt the core until of crashes, step up voltage and try upping the core clock, do not touch mem. As far as i could see, mem isnt cooled so all mem should be dialed down ;) which gives you more powerbudget to feed the core
One would say Dawid has beef with Corn. Corned beef if you will.
MegaHellstrike this is genius.
Good work unlocking the full potential of this card. Please try and fit a 6-pin socket to the card for more power and over-clocking potential in a future video.
for future reference, you dont actually need to use a bios editor, you can just open cmd in the amdvbflash directory and use the command amdvbflash -f -p pathtobios.rom
It was interesting to watch.
I did know, that overclocking may drop stability frequency at which cores are locked oO
solder a 6pin on it
redo OCing tests with it
It doesn't have a pin out for a six pin, I'm not sure where I would solder on the connector.
I'm watching at the PCB in the previous video and it probably requires proper ePower to get it done properly
@@TheXlen Yeah I think so. Maybe I can get EVGA to send me one. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff if they don't ask people on r/overclocking discord to help you with it
Dawid Does Tech Stuff if you look at the Wikipedia page it shows which PCIe pins are ground and 12v, you can either solder the 6 pin to the motherboard or to the card, preferably to the card so it has perfect contact (you can grind or sand down the coating to reveal the traces if needed, which is what you do with the Epower board typically after you chop the card in half, also the Epower V board isn’t very expensive and I got one on sale for like $100, so check EBay, lol!)
Then you de-restrict the power limit with Polaris bios editor then run ATImdag patches and voila you’ve got it!
Or use an X399 board, as they have a 6 pin for the GPUs on the board, the power limit should be like ~150w through the slot without any issue would be my guess.
There are other ways as well (some x16 riser cables have a Molex assist for power, though I’ve found they need foil wrapping to prevent EMI interference on the cheap $5 cables leading to sporadic instability and system crashes).
Im a bit of a noob but couldnt you janky solder fit a 6/8 pin connection to it? To increase its power intake. I know this might be dangerous in a way but surely something can be done to see what this wierd cards capable of? Keep going im loving these odd videos you do 👍
Great series between those two videos. I always wondered what the heck those Corn cards were
Good to know! I didn't know it was common to unlock the extra cores in a 560D variant.
Have you tried undervolting it? It could free up some power for more clock.
why couldn't be just hot wire it so it has more power to go higher
Gotta say my thanks to you for teching me the art of vbios modding and vbios flashing.
Being a bit serious now. Your demonstration of fixing that Corn RX560 was a great help for me to get my XFX RX560 4gb Double Dissipation to the right bios. Weirdly it had the bios of an RX560D (XFX RX560 4gb Wolf Warrior Edition) even though the pcb was for the Double Dissipation version (RX560 with 1024 shaders) which I noticed due to the pressence of the 6pin pcie power connector.
I was able to flash it to what it is supposed to be with no problems and I didn't experience any weirdness with power limit being hit easily or frequencies not being right.
Though in the first place I shouldn't have this RX560 as I ordered an RX550 4gb from a used seller from China but instead got this XFX RX560 4gb. Weird that I got the wrong card but not complaining since I got a better one. No idea if the seller ran out of RX550s and sent me this but they could have also confused them as they look pretty much the same being both XFX Double Dissipation version cards.
You kinda remind me of linus a little bit, I like your channel, keep on that grind you deserve more subscribers ngl.
Sapphire bios versions are pretty much on the ragged edge for clock speeds already on the RX550/560 pulse variants, you really don't get much more performance attempting an overclock as they pretty much are out of the box.
You need to solder a connector on to this. I did it to a 9550 a long time ago and it worked wonders!
Great job man! I'm glad it worked out
Wouldn't undervolting the GPU give you a bit more thermal budget to push the clock a bit more?
I dont mean to spam but Do you think you could do a video on the intel core i3 3220
I know u probably get questions like this all the time, and for that I'm sorry. But I just got one and u haven't done a video yet. Ur my favorite channel to watch when it comes to older pc hardware, and thus this would be an amazing video for me to watch...
Just an idea please do it...
Happy holidays. XD
P.S. good luck with the COPPA stuff
BIOS flashing is a godsend. I bought an ASUS R9 290 back in 2014. I buddy of mine told me that it is essentially an R9 290X with cut cores in the BIOS. I flashed an R9 290X BIOS onto my card and have been playing with an R9 290X BIOS on my R9 290 for close to 4 years now. the card had 0 issues. I used the ASUS R9 290X bios, not the stock or reference BIOS. There is an asus Directcu II R9 290 and 290X and for me the BIOS is interchangeable. At the time the 290X was selling for 500$ and I got the 290 for $314 from Newegg that year(2014). Saved me a PRETTY penny on that one.
So the Chinese characters on the cooler says "Jingying", which is a very interesting brand of graphics cards here in China. Their graphics cards are usually very cheap here, and you can only find them in one shop on Taobao (the domestic version of Ali-Express).
I think their RX560 retails for about 50-55USD here, so the value is actually much better. Same for all their other graphics cards. They're usually significantly cheaper than other reputable brands, but there are just quirks and cheap-outs here and there, so they've really created a (sort-of) fan base following, with another group of people criticizing it. Basically, if you buy something that works, good for you. But if it breaks, I've heard that the tech support and RMA staff are pretty unresponsive and it could take a long time to get replacement.
I've personally bought their "GTX460" back in the day, it was really weird with 384sp active, which isn't the GTX460 (336sp. 288sp for 460SE) but GTX560Ti specs. However, the GPU reads GF104, which indicates GTX400 series, not the GF114 found on GTX500 series. So it's really weird, and this was when the GTX600 series were on the horizon IIRC, so a "brand-new" GTX400 was unlikely.
Also, no one seems to know for sure where they got there GPUs from. Obviously, not being an AIB/AIC, they can't get them directly from Nvidia/AMD. Word is that they get them from some other branded AIB/AICs, but no one knows for sure. Anyways, back in Kepler days, they sold a GTX670 that actually used GTX680M (mobile) GPUs from (allegedly) some laptop manufacturer. If you look it up, the GTX680M and the GTX670 have the exact core specs, but the 680M is clocked quite a bit lower (~700MHz base) than the GTX670 (900MHz), so there was quite a bit of debate whether this much factory OC was acceptable from a stability standpoint.
So I guess is if you're looking into cheap, quirky GPUs, this seems like a good brand to start with.
Did you try undervolting it and lowering the power limit to to free up more power and get more frequency?
Just a tip AMD graphics cards are only limited in power draw by the BIOS not by sensors on the connectors like Nvidia cards. So if you flash a 200W BIOS onto a 6-pin less RX 560 then it'll draw up to 200W from the PCIE connector.
Have you tried fixing the 3gb GTX 1050 to unlock the memory profiler?
South Africa. I finally realized where you're accent is from. Regardless, great video. 👍👍👍
I thought he was Dutch
Isn't he from Australia?
Thank you for lining the square on the wall ☺️
Haha!! I was waiting for this comment
instructions unclear tried flashing on an nvidia, now it's an GTRX
What I find very strange in the vendor description is the emphasize on pointing out it's better than a 460... Barely.
maybe they meant to put better than GTX460 instead of RX460 😁
could the onboard fans be taken off for a higher stable clock and using a 120/140mm fan using system power instead? it'll save the extra wattage like off with the shroud and fans and on with on with one big one and zip-ties. similar note: i chopped up the fan that came with my ryzen 5 3600x and it fits perfectly in replacement of the stock fan on my MSI r7 360 OC 2gb gddr5 and the cable from the new "GPU FAN" is long enough to get to a fan header. think most new motherboard bios's are capable of monitoring pcie temps. mine does
Using the DOS version of ATIflash you can actually flash any bios despite vendor with the -f switch
Dawid, FYI... that same windows app "can" run in command line mode and there is a force switch (you can get the switches from command line help). I used it all the time with the manual editor also when overclocking cards for mining years ago.
Maybe you could disconnect the fans from the board and power it externally. Might free up like 8 watts
does it taste like corn tho
No, it only smells like corn while gaming tho
Yeah it did smell like corn with the previous BIOS, now it smells a bit Geological.
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Great video 👍👍
it works on any of those RX cards, just use the bios from the same company (usually) took my old sapphire rx480 and made it a 580 in maybe 2-3 minutes and it works perfect, but all u get is higher clocks.
You don't need to edit the VGABIOS. You can force it to flash anything to the card you want, you just need to use the command line tool instead of the GUI.
Just open a (admin) command prompt, go to the ATIWinFlash folder and run "atiwinflash -f -p 0 file.ROM". This will ignore the mismatch and run anyway. You may need to run "atiwinflash -unlockrom 0" beforehand.
Interestingly enough GoPro did the same thing with the Hero 2018 and the Hero 5. (Limited the hero 2018 and made it a budget option even though it was the same as the hero 5 to keep the hero 5 relevant)
I didn't know that. Very interesting. 😁
Hey could you add a link to the page where you purchased the card?
FYI You could also just force bios flash with cmd atiflash version without editing working bios
What was the point of the D variant card if it still has the same amount of shaders but with them limited?
Probably to lower power consumption, since apparently they're used mostly in Chinese internet cafes.
It could be that the cores aren't reliable enough so they disable them.
Thx. I always wondered about the Corn video cards but didn’t have the guts to purchase one.
Editing the GPU BIOS was a little unnecessary. You can force flash it using the command prompt version of ATIFlash.
He couldn't because none of the BIOS'es matched hardware ID's in his card. That's why he had to edit the BIOS. Didn't you watch the video?
@@itstheweirdguy If you use the command prompt variant of ATIFlash64 (it comes in the same zip folder from techpowerup), you can set a flag ( I believe it is -f and -p if memory serves me right) to ignore mismatched subsystemIDs. This is about knowing what is possible with the tools at your disposal. Editing the GPU bios is a valid option, I am simply saying that an even easier option exists.
@@itstheweirdguy TYC released a video to demonstrate what I was talking about. th-cam.com/video/gYf_gh1myEs/w-d-xo.html
I know im late to the game here but what about undervolting the card and/or shunt modding?
Gpu in the philippines are like 700$ for the 1660ti super
If it helps now, it doesn't really mean that the bios doesn't belong to the graphics, it has to do actually sometimes with the memory supplier. I had an issue with a 470 and I was trying to install a BIOS which the memory was from Samsung but mine was from Hynex. After checking the BIOS info and putting a new one in there, boom I was able to flash it without any problem.
It could be that the chip itself is set to run at a certain speed so you can't actually get it to run faster (ie. it's actually hard-coded into the chip or there is another chip on the board--not part of the BIOS--that limits its speed or controls the speed.
I'm not sure the bios succeeded in unlocking any extra cores. The performance gains were in line with the clock speed increases (17%), not the multiplicative performance boost of 14% more cores + 17% higher clocks.
So... did the saphire bios require manipulating the bios info to get it to load?
I have an RX 470. I was trying to overclock it with MSI Afterburner at first but it didn't work. I ended up being able to overclock my RX 470 to 1400 Mhz on the core using the AMD Software that comes with the drivers. It ran stable up until I got new thermal paste. (The new thermal paste was of a lesser quality.)
Would an undervolt make much difference, in terms of it not going beyond the the new vbios' settings?
Interesting video for sure! This is what a budget gamer should do to get best price=performance out of his hardware.
What about gaming on a lower Res with high detail on a CRT?
Im sure it would work well for that. 👍
Comes with free nausea, headache, and eyestrain to boot!
@@ayuchanayuko no. I had one. At 85hz nausea is not an issue. With Trinitron flat eye strain is a non issue unless you game for 24hrs non stop.
True blacks. Zero motion blur. 1000 nits luminance. Cheaper than OLED. Zero lag.
Come on. Let's bring CRT back. 👍
@@johnathanpearson3203 I've played with CRTs since 2000s. Played on a syncmaster and photoshopped there like there's no tomorrow. True it feels better with 75Hz up, but I wouldn't go back for the eyestrain. It also looks "fluidly delayed" as if I'm on a boat. Not going back to that. I can still play a bit from time to time for some PS2 and retro games or watching my old DVDs. I even think I ruined my eyes because of looking at CRTs for too long. Then degaussing the damn thing from time to time made my brain feel like it got reset. IPS now has, for me, achieved a nice balance of space, power, color, and brightness. If we compared average TN LCDs I would agree with CRTs with color reproduction, but not with modern LCDs like IPS and OLED.
Though have you tried plasma? If dark blacks is what you want, plasma marries CRT color and light advantages with LCD power and space advantages. OLEDs can also be comparable (see psvita gen1).
Edit: I also grew tired of the high-pitched sound it makes. I can hear when someone turns on a CRT monitor or TV somewhere and it gives me migraines if exposed too long. Back then I didn't even know how I was able to bear it until CRTs went out of fashion and I was exposed to them again. But that's just me, most people I guess don't even hear or recognize the sound.
@@ayuchanayuko fair enough. My experience was different. I like OLED but right now the cheapest 24 inch 1080p OLED is £4000.
I can't find a plasma with a VGA input or DVI. Worth a look. Thanks.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't shader cores (Stream Processors on the AMD platform) physical hardware-based cores? So by flashing 'more shader cores' isn't that like downloading RAM? Maybe the number looks bigger, but at the end of the day, it's literally impossible to add more cores. Unless of course, shader cores are logical cores (Like in hyperthreading on a CPU), or the RX560 has 'locked cores' on the chip.
I'd like to ask something. So, my brother has an RX 560 D (Sapphire Pulse 4GB) and I'd like to flash it's bios with the RX 560 bios from the same model (Sapphire Pulse 4GB). Will it work ?
so.. that little piece of paper inside, did you give a review asking why they dont just give the 560? and why the 560d bios
how did you do it? im doing the same in bios editor and i get P/N mismatch all the time!
For the bios issue...they may not have licensing to use a different bios.
Just one question is this decent for gaming i bought this for my pc and I have not tried this yet I just want to know if it’s good if your put your graphics to mid range in game
IDU why GPU card makers and MOBO makers get together and put the power supply pins on the MOBO in front of card slot, so when you plug video card in to slot, it also plugs in to power pins as many as it needs to take up. They would need to seperate the extra power slot from rest of mobo circuitry.
Apple done it in it's new iMac pro, the PCI-E is longer so the extra power can be delivered via the slot
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That's means only custom cards made for that mac will work unless there's a work around.
amazing video but is there any software to edit nvidea bios ?
i have a p106 i want to mod it to gtx 1060
Have you tried, can you increase power limit percentage in MS afterburner? That should stabilize OC clocks if so.
Yeah I did try that. I also tried to edit it on a BIOS level.
Dell does the same thing. The old Inspiron 5675 can come with a 560b, which is a cut down version, like the 560D. Of course they don't label it as such. In fact, Dell has a history of using underperforming GPUs
Hi there! You could have actually fixed that ID mismatch by using the DOS version of the BIOS flasher and running some commands to 'unlock' it. If anyone needs it and has trouble finding it on Google, I'll be happy to link it.
Did you get any fan control with the new bios?
Do this work for my 1050 ti, so I can flash it to a 1080 ti ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)
I think it only works if you flash it to an RTX 2080 Ti. 👍
@@DawidDoesTechStuff You need to quantify that with "Use advice at your own risk". lol.
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@waffeltek why you say 1060 is better when this comment is joke?
Usually, CPUs and GPUs that have locked processors are originally a higher product with defects, a quad core with 1 or 2 imperfect cores turned to a dual core, etc... It's always better to just buy a higher product than buying a lower one and expecting unlocking to make it better, it's more of a gamble and it's not made for that.
I had a card here a few yrs back that didn't have a power connector on it but it had the unpopulated spot for it so i just added one to it from a dead donor card, and was all set to over clock it..
Hi there. RX 560 Owner from the future. To anyone who owns this card or to Dawid who wanted to know why the overclock didn't go well, it's because MSI afterburner doesn't play nicely with it. You'd need to use the AMD Radeon criver software to raise the power limit and manually bump the clocks and voltage yourself. Got mine to 1469 on the core and 2000Mhz on the memory.......you're maybe getting between 11-23% of a performance increase depending on the game tho
Dawid u should've replaced the heatsink as well
wow i dident even know that i had a corn GPU in my prebuilt
That is veey interesting. What prebuilt system do you have?
Sounds corny
@@DawidDoesTechStuff the system is dell omen and the gpu was corn rx560 should i get a refund or keep it?
@@yvscrddn78 Is the real RX560 or the rx560d? And it depends on how much you paid for it
@@alfredomorales9467 i dont know much about the graphics card and when i launch the cpuz app it tells me that it is a rx560 so i dont know if they have flashed the card or something or it is a normal rx560
I think it would be nice tu have a video where you compare the Msi GT730 2G ans the Msi GT730 4G and benchmark them to see if any difference and if the 4G version has more or less overclocking advantage 🤔
Kinda late and you might already know this, but AMD cards are better to overclock in WattMan, Afterburner isn't an ideal utility for this. I recently bought an rx5500 xt 8gb on sale to tinker with, first tried Afterburner for overclocking and had similar weird behavior, then tried the Tuning utility in Adrenalin and it actually worked way better. If you ever revisit this card, or want to overclock an AMD gpu in general, might wanna try using the AMD software first. Mileage may wary though.
So can i try it on my rx560 4gb asrock edition 🤔🤔
1: VBIOS editing is the only surefire way to permanently push limits on Radeon cards as there are software/BIOS/PowerPlay limits in place. Try to OC with different tools. I found that using the built-in Radeon 2020 drivers and Sapphire's OC tool gives me proper OC clocks and voltage. Increase your limits by editing the BIOS accordingly. Its just limits, not the actual running clocks.
2: Polaris likes memclocks a LOT. Polaris is also so power-efficient you can undervolt it and it still works. Therefore you should try to lower gpu voltage for that anemic heatsink and increase memory clocks based on what chips it has (I remember samsung chips are the better ones). The new Radeon drivers even lets you control memory TIMINGS not just clocks too! Polaris responds a lot more positively in the FPS and frametime department with faster and tighter memclocks.
3: Make sure to put board power to its max +50%.
Still waiting for the vega 56 video
I think I will do it the week after next. I just have a couple of other videos to get out of the way first. 👍
I got this card for my dad's pc recently. Although, I haven't been able to get any other bios onto it to unlock the additional shader cores. I've tried all available 4G RX 560 on techpowerup. It keeps giving me ID mismatch. Any suggestions?
Rewatch this video as this guy perfectly says what he done to bypass mismatched id
In other cases just force flash but keep copy of original bios.
I know it's probably 8 months too late lol
is the 460 and 560 chip the same? or is it acutally and 560 but downgraded too an 460? thats realy strange xD
Can't you jusr undervolt it and check how much you can still overclock it?
Should I crossfire 2 of these and watercool them?
Have an idea how to See how much vram the card Haß:in Apex legends u can limit vram usage to this-1-2gb-2-4-6-8 gbs vram and then just See how much it uses
Duuuude, i bought an Rx 470d from china and I want to try to re flash the bios from it to get better performance and unlock all the cores, how can I properly do this and what are the risks(because this is my first graphics card and I spend all my money on it) please it will help me a lot :"D and ohh, greetings from Paraguay, here the graphics card are almost 5 times more expensive than in other countries and don't even talk about Argentina, that's another history xd
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@@DawidDoesTechStuff no homo fella
but cheap GPUs are cheap GPUs :P
Where can I buy this?
I'm surprised the temps are still good.
considering the inefficient looking heatsink, yeah I agree.
Glad you fixed the STD card
Is that edible? I heard corn.....
I bought the Corn Rx 580 For 100 bucks, Didn't even have to flash it because it had a dual bios switch on the PCB, a simple flick of the switch let me boot the card with the stock "un modified" bios. I highly reccommend it to any one trying to pick up a cheap card!! I bought it almost a year ago, took the card apart, verified it was an actual REAL 580, it overclocks very well (as good as my other 580 I bought at microcenter). Benchmarks were good, sorry that you were irritated with your card. But the reason that they modified the card was because it is a mining card that has been flashed for power efficiency. Thats why the clocks AND TDP are limited. Corn is well known in china for being a slightly shady company, chances are they bought and then resold these gpu's from a huge bitcoin/crypto currency mining farm/warehouse. Hope this answers some of your questions about the card. IF you would have splurged and got the Corn 580 like I did, all you would have had to do was flick the dual bios switch and you would've had a fully working RX 580... I bought mine when Rx 580's were still going for 180 up to 220 USD, while I only paid 100, and performance was great so all I can say is it was a hell of a good bargain. EDIT: I just checked my email for the reciept of my purchase, and I actually only Paid $89!!
Also, you can't really be that mad at Corn, at least they sold you a WORKING card that was actually what was promised on the Advertisement, Unlike scam sites like WISH.com ... Most normal consumers wouldn't even be looking at a card like this. I assume it would've taken too much labor/manhours for Corn to reflash the stock bios on these cards. They probably stuck it in a tester PC, made sure it booted, and moved onto the next card. Also, there ARE cards sold oversea's in China that are specifically underclocked and with lower TDP For the purpose of mining, and they come with that bios flashed when the card is brand new from the factory. Either you got one of these brand new cards that was meant to be a mining card, or Corn resold these from a crypto mining farm and the miners flashed the card to its current state. Either way, from what I remember when I bought mine, these cards are a great deal because they are 1. Cheap 2. Actually what they advertised them to be and 3. They WORK.
Sorry for these long ass comments, I had alot to say :]
Under volt ?
Actually I saw plenty of rx560 with 14CU while there are with 16 and you need to be very careful when you select one. Note according to wiki 560D has lover memory frequency. If you see 1750 than it is 560 with 14 cu instead of 16. I bought 16cu/4G one from MSI because I wanted one without external power connector and in very small form factor.
He's just like i'm going to flash the wrong bios onto a graphics card
Try undervolting and overclocking you wont see a great improvement, but you should be able to grt something