NHRL Might Become Bigger Than Battlebots. Here's How.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- This video is a collection of my thoughts on the future of combat robotics.
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In the last 2 months, NHRL has exploded in scale on social media and popularity to an extent I would never have thought possible. Now it seems we could be close to a new era in the world of combat robotics, where the popularity of this sport could actually break its way into the mainstream. On the cusp of these changes, I wanted to lay my thoughts out there for the NHRL team to see, and for all of you to understand what I see happening on the horizon. Do you agree? Comment below!
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00:00 - What is this video?
01:01 - Modern Combat Timeline
03:08 - What is NHRL?
03:59 - NHRL Early Days & TH-cam Growth
06:17 - Viewership Numbers
07:33 - Battlebots Features NHRL
08:53 - Your Thoughts?
09:43 - SPONSOR: PCBWay
11:06 - Scaling Up
13:02 - BB vs NHRL Priorities
15:44 - Media Formats
17:59 - Growing Competitor Numbers
19:37 - What Can be Done?
20:16 - Should NHRL have 250lb bots?
21:10 - More Locations?
21:48 - Could NHRL Replace Battlebots?
22:56 - Accessibility
24:24 - Level of Competition at NHRL
26:10 - Growing Pains
28:33 - A Brighter Future - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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at the end i was expecting a heartfelt message. i had to double take when i heard "dont fuck it up" XD
It was still heartfelt LOL
I wonder what their plans are. 200 bots have entered for the march 18th fight so the future is bright. Maybe in a few years NHRL will have regional (six or so) tournaments with the top finishers being invited to a national annual championship.
That's what I hope will happen! Maybe even a rookie league and a pro league? Who knows. But the future is looking good for this sport.
@@JustCuzRobotics I hope not, one big draw is to compete with "famous" people/bots, and work next to them in the pits. It's an awesome community and so far it has been easy to do this, but with so many bots your scenario may be unavoidable.
I know they are technically robots .but really they are remote control cars with extras. fighting😂😂😂😂
In 2021 my friends and I are playing Among Us. I start talking about my old Battlebots team in High School, and my friend Jess tells me her brother is doing Battlebots. Apparently, it's on the discovery channel. I ask if I could talk to him about it sometime and she says she'll ask him. Eventually he reaches out to me and I ask what it takes to get to where he is. How do I get onto Battlebots? Well, you need to start your own team or get recognized by one of the existing ones. Jon tells me that a lot of the competitors also go to this other competition in Connecticut, and that if I'm serious about this I need to make a bot and compete. It doesn't have to be NHRL, but that's the only big event on the east coast. Unfortunately, the pandemic is still in full swing and I don't feel comfortable going to a large event, so I forget about it for about a year when my parents give me a robotics kit for Christmas. I laugh and think to myself, "when am I going to use this?" But then I remember! Norwalk!?
"No", I say to myself. "The Pandemic isn't over. There isn't even a vaccine yet." And then suddenly, there is. I'm not eligible yet, but I watch the live stream for the next event. Low and behold, I hear a familiar name. Not Jon, but Anna...
Who is Anna you might ask? Well to most she's the maker of Riparoni, but to me she's a founding member of Rogue Robotics. The team I started back in high school when the teacher advising the old robotics club was suddenly replaced with a guy who hated combat robotics. This all comes rushing back to the forefront of my mind, and I think to myself, why not reach out? So, I do. As it turns out she's lives close by, as does the other member of Rogue, Austin. We decide to hang out. Both of them have already competed in Battlebots. WHAT!? How did I not know this? I'm flabbergasted, impressed, proud, and a little bit envious. Anna convinces me to come to the next event. I go & see how much cooler it is up close. I even got to meet Seth, though I don't think he remembers me. I'm hooked and by the next event I've got a bot of my own, Osiris, which promptly destroys its own weapon and I handily loose. But I'm having too much fun and sign up for the next one, and the next one, etc... That was last April & now I'm featured on the NHRL website (I'm in the skeleton mask) and am working with my friend in the Bronx to develop an after-school program with a curriculum focused around combat robots. Which, funnily enough, we got help with from Seth's brother.
Anyway, that's a long-winded way of saying Jonathan Shultz told me about it.
I think I first heard of NHRL from one of my friends who competed with a bot back in 2020 (PGF). I have only been to one NHRL event of course but seeing how the event has continued to evolve and grow dramatically recently is crazy. I recently had a similar discussion with a friend about a similar topic, and I think you hit the nail on the head with how Battlebots feels like it is getting somewhat outpaced compared to NHRL’s recent growth. I mean, last season of BB they literally spoiled the result of a tournament match in the title of a video, feels like they have sucked in that regard where NHRL is starting to succeed (Although Destruct a thon seems pretty popular so far). I would love the idea of NHRL expanding to multiple locations. When I was there last July there were only 80-ish bots from what I remember, and it felt like there was a lot of people there. I can’t imagine what it would be like if the growth continued at just one location, but NHRL has felt extremely well run throughout its existence and I trust that they will have a great solution.
My main introduction to NHRL is through your channel, I grew up around the ABC reboot. I like the competition, and they have a strong social media presence.
I probably found your channel through a Battlebots fight review.
I found out about NHRL at Open Sauce. It got us to build 150g robots to fight locally.
Incredible job, Seth. Language is important and I always call robot combat a SPORT not a hobby. I see you do that. 👍We started our family team in 2020 and have been to NHRL four times. It is exciting to see NHRL sending staff to other events now, providing the championship donations and test boxes etc to makerspaces as they move to scale up. As exciting as big robots are, the Beetleweights have all the drama and destruction anyone could hope for and a price point that allows more people access to enter the field. It is an exciting time. I do hope that the kind and supportive nature of the combat robotics community can be maintained as NHRL continues to grow. ❤
I can pinpoint the exact moment I rediscovered combat robotics. I was a huge fan of UK Robot Wars in the late 90s/early 00s, but lost touch with it when they moved from the BBC for series 7 and due to lack of internet or other information sources it kinda faded from memory.
On January 2nd 2021 I randomly searched youtube for "Robot wars soundtrack", no idea why, but that lead to me find out in the past 20 years Robot Wars was rebooted (and cancelled), Battlebots was rebooted and I missed a lot of both aired and unaired/online videos of robot combat. I initially stumbled on the Warhead v Complete Control fight from the reboot and was instantly hooked, started watching the current (5) season of Battlebots which in EP3 featured Copperhead v Gigabyte, found Robert Cowans channel which then lead down a rabbit hole of smaller weight competitions like NERC and other teams (auxiliary) channels like this one (most likely after the EP4 fight of End Game vs Bloodsport), until finally finding NHRL and enjoying it ever since.
I found NHRL while recovering from a COVID-19 vaccine and watching Battlebot fights on TH-cam near the end of 2021. It eventually recommended some NHRL videos. I liked what I saw, and was soon watching their tournaments. In fact, I like NHRL better than Battlebots.
I found out about NHRL because if your videos. Honestly, if it was any other robot that introduced me to Norwalk, I don't think I would have been as excited. Division's explosive nature is so entertaining that you really can't look away!
Aw Thank you!
I'm not even sure how I found out about NHRL, probably popped up in recommendations while watching old Battlebots clips or something. Then I reached out like last February asking if they needed any help with the stream* and then ended up driving out to work the March 2022 event. I had no idea what I was walking in to, some of the older streams showed more of the "behind the scenes" of what was going on (they were in a makerspace I believe) in between matches so I thought that was more or less it. It was overwhelming walking in and getting a quick tour and seeing all the people involved in just putting the event on. And then so much of the broadcast crew came from the world of TV whereas I came from the land of local government meetings and high school sports so that was pretty intimidating!
Even in the year I've been a small part of it, watching the growth and improvement has been pretty wild.
* Don't tell anyone but when I first reached out I was totally intending to work for free just to be a part of it 🤫
I love the combat robot community! I'm still a noob at just over a year under my belt but I say anything to help grow this hobby/sport is good in my eyes. I just hosted my fist event and there were so many families that came out and got to try fighting a match and most of them had never heard of small combat robotics. Hell, I had not heard of combat robotics until a years ago and I bet there are still a bunch more kids and adults out there that would love to get involved.
P.S. love your TH-cam vides, your doing the combat robotic lords work
That is amazing that you are hosting your own events! And thank you
I think I found NHRL when I was trying to find out what happened to BuggleBots and you from them.
It's no small challenge to figure out how to make NHRL profitable, I'm encouraged by their progress so far! But that's a Business major thing, I'm here to finish my bot and have some epic fights.
I watch the 10+ hour streams. When I went looking for bot stuff, NHRL and you came up in the same searches. I wouldn't say one led to the other, they both just happened simultaneously. Seems like the solution to a lot of bots is separate classes based on fight count and wins (of the bot) and break the classes up into different weekends.
As far as doing events nation wide; they could do a tour/road show. Design some boxes that can be loaded up into a trailer and go across the country doing events at venues like bands do. I know a lot of people who would go to a battle robot event if it came to town just to watch, and a few people that would want to compete. Rent out tables to vendors selling parts, kits, and merch. Plus I'm sure there would be a few intrepid teams that would follow the tour to fight in all the events.
My introduction to NHRL was from a TH-cam advertisement. I believe the fight they showed was Droopy vs Lynx
Paws... That was my introduction!
I will say it’s cool seein your channel and NHRL grow,hell I’ll say your channel is 1 of 2 sources that turned me to NHRL and to learnin beetles,you and evan arias were who turned me to it, I think I agree w a lot of what your sayin,we’re at this middle stage and they have some choices to make,I think havin events like this all over and creating a Norwalk havoc type league would be amazing and would help w the growin field cause as you said,more and more bots are showing up,especially the beetles are overflowing and they need to think of something at some point,will everyone even fit in the building,it’s gonna be very tight and cramped,hell I’m imagining safety and usin the test box is gonna be a nightmare early in the comp at March,I think making all events 2 day long w this kinda growth makes sense and could be a necessary move,it worked in July when they did it
norwalk havoc in a lot of ways feels like the comedy central era of battlebots where they would have 400 people show up for one weight class film all the fights then just put the best suff on television.and credit to norwalk havoc if you have 150 robots you're bound to have some hightlight worthy stuff to show on social media. maybe the one thing nhrl could do is an A league with relegation so where your top bots can fight it out with evenly matched opponents and a B league with promotionthat's where you would stick all the rookie bots or teams or even lower budget bots to fight it out
Yeah I agree separate leagues would really help given the ever growing level of competition.
I first heard of NHRL when a video about Division appeared in my TH-cam recommended. Thanks!
I just love how you talk with so much passion about combat robots and competitions, you definitely convinced me to start building my own combat bot! Well done!
That's amazing.
I found out about NRHL from searching battlebot competitions on TH-cam and I found out about your channel from a plug made while watching the competition. Now, watching your channel assisted me in gaining enough confidence to build my own 3lb robot. Amazing community and the future is definitely looking bright!
That's amazing. Always glad to hear I helped a few people into the sport!
You introduced me to NHRL when you posted a Bloodsport video to the BB subreddit. Then I checked out some of your other videos and saw Division and NHRL. Now NHRL is my favorite robot combat competition with BB being second.
That is really cool to hear!
I learned about NHRL from Witch Doctor's TH-cam content.
I'm 99% sure I found out about NHRL from this channel. I watched the NHRL 2022 live streams diligently and am looking forward to this year's stream. I like the format and fast pace.
I found out about from the Behind the Bots podcast. I was listening to BattleBots podcasts and they interviewed Austin in May of 2021. I attended as a spectator for about a year until I went to the new bot event in 2022.
Behind the Bots is a great podcast, although definitely also BB superfan content. I'm sure they have introduced many BB viewers to NHRL
I came to NHRL from Kilobots in Saskatoon and Calgary. I have watched combat robotics since the 1990s. I wanted to join a league since then. I just fulfilled that wish for the first time. I put a build video of the bot on my channel. My first competition is going to be in January at Kilobots 53 in Saskatoon. If one is judicious there is now a 'circuit' you can run if you're willing to pay up front for travel and lodging. I want to get to NHRL next year. BTW, I called our team 'Coalition of Independent Droids.' Looking forward to getting junked in the next little while.
I can't remember exactly when I first heard of NHRL, but at the very least, one of the earliest memories I have is when I came across a very unusual robot called Droopy on the Ask Aaron website in 2020. Then I learned about Billy, then Silent Spring, then others like Mondo Bizarro and Lynx. My love for NHRL solidified after seeing Pramheda eviscerate AC/RC and watching the July 2021 live stream.
It was you who I got NHRL from and I loved your bot division so I checked it out.
First found nhrl thru your videos, I've loved following it since and it's gotten better and better every competition they have. Can't wait to see where it all goes!
I first heard about NHRL from you when I was searching for 3lb battlebot videos to watch casually. I was disapointed to find that there wasn't to many videos out their until I found your channel that introduced NHRL, the 3lb battlebot hub, to me.
Now their Social media presence? It has grown epically especially with "this is Havoc". The now have professional grade videos that I check every month for to get insight.
Amazing channels to the both of you guys though🔥💯.
Thank you!
I think I found out about NHRL when I went looking for more competitions after having enjoyed Bugglebots. I wanted more, and that's how I happened upon NHRL.
Also, Battlebots mentioning NHRL must've helped a ton as well. They started the season in december, so it matches nicely.
I agree that focusing on media has propelled NHRL into an exponential popularity curve, but it took years of really hard work and iterations at each event to get there. They have tried to improve the experience every single event they put together, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse, but always striving to improve. Without that, focus on media would be just an empty hype. I am a little sad to see the event grow this much from a smaller, cozier crowd, but it is, what it is. We found out about it after watching battlebots, researching the application process and discovering local combat robotics events, NHRL being one of them.
I found Norwalk harvick trying to find more while trying to find more bugglebots
Easiest Way To Fix The Problem
Open more event locations.
Put one event in each spot on the US
Mid-West,South,North,East and West
Wonder if NHRL could have a 3lb only day, and maybe combine the 12/30lb to a single day as well to help reduce the number of fights per day. 2 day format would help as well. Would like to see a 1lb event too, but that would only make their current dilemma worse but maybe in the future.
I would not want NHRL to eclipse Battlebots. I see Battlebots as for 'the masses' and shows that appeal to everyone are almost always pretty skin deep, vapid, lacking detail. NHRL has been able to show us so much more about the sport, the robots, the builders, things that are very hard to do when a show is forced into the 'showbiz' formats.
I learned about NHRL about December 2020, after having built beetles from a kit from BotKits
I learned NHRL through your channel. Then I got hyped enough to build my own robot using your videos. I built a Ring Spinner that you made some parts of and will be fighting at NHRL 18th of March. Thank you again and will keep improving my stuff!
I didn't see much of their media outside of some tiktoks and being subscribed to them already. I don't watch Battlebots much so I couldnt tell from them either. You and Robert Cowen definitely are the go to in my opinion.
That is awesome, I look forward to seeing you there!
Thanks, subbed
I'm trying hard to remember really hard how I found NHRL
Pretty sure it happened around one of the BattleBots seasons 2 ago (maybe quarantine one?)
I was watching a ton BB content, like fight replays on YT after episodes aired. Came across a few teams channels including yours but I can't remember if NHRL hit my radar first or not
I came to Norwalk to compete from México because of your videos. And I think I will continue to participate at least try this year.
Awesome to hear!
First off, I really appreciate all the work you put into education and support in these videos for builders in the robot combat sport. Keep that up! While I can appreciate some of the points you made about “popularity growth”, there is a very large business strategy model behind both BB and NHRL that drives their actions and motives. A few key thoughts!
1) Who controls the future of the sport: NHRL sounds awesome and I hope to get to go soon. I want this sport to grow and they’re doing their part! The thing I disagree with is “the future of this sport is most likely in NHRL hands so… don’t ***k it up”. We (the builders) are the heart of this sport. No builders, no bots, no events. I’m not going to concede NHRL has it locked up.
2) No real competition for NHRL: If you look at events across the US, NHRL is popular, but only in the vacuum of virtually no other folks with $$$ to fund something of that scale regularly. All it will take is a tipping point of 2-3 more well funded event locations and we’re off to the races! BattleBots (big expensive bots) does their thing to promote awareness to folks whole may never be builders and some who will. That is amazing and, as you said, a different goal than NHRL (no idea but I assume smaller, more affordable bots).
3) NHRL Infomercial? I’ve seen a LOT of pitch presentations and this looks just like a subtle promo to hype NHRL. That’s fine, but it would be nice to just be up front about it. One graph showing TH-cam subscribers doesn’t prove NHRL is or will lead the charge for events. We’ve got to work together on this one (the whole bot community) so let’s encourage competition and more large events by anyone and not say, I’m paraphrasing what I took away from your video, the future control of this sport is NHRL’s to lose…
The future: We’re in an exciting time where this sport has momentum! May it keep evolving, growing, and maintain the love and support the bot community always brings to the pit and arena every single time! ❤️
To be clear NHRL had no idew I was making this video, no input, they didn't pay me to say anything or ask me to promote them. They clearly are much better at getting views than I am so that would not make much sense.
I do totally get where you are coming from though. 2-3 more big players would be awesome but almost nobody has that kind of money and none that do have invested it how NHRL has. I would happily welcome anyone else who does so. Hell if I had the money I would do it.
@@JustCuzRobotics Totally makes sense and the infomercial comment was just an observation on one video only. Overall, I LOVE all the work you’ve done to encourage expansion of the sport! And, this is an excellent topic for the community to consider. “How do we get more events accessible in key regions?” We’ll see how it plays out! (P.S.: Your PCB’s for power distribution are AWESOME sauce!) 😉
One thing NHRL promised at the start of the year though hasn't yet been delivered on is arena grants. Assuming they follow through with this, they are donating $1mil to nonprofit organizations like schools so they can build arenas and host events throughout the country. My guess is this is enough money for ~ 200 3lb capable arenas at $3000-5000 or maybe 20 30lb capable arenas at $35-50k each. As far as I know they will not require these arena to be used with NHRL's own rules set and they will provide some of the funds to buy other things needed to run events such as pit tables and chairs and such.
There are a lot of additional challenges to creating events everywhere such as finding good venues, arena storage, and event insurance being pricy, but I think this could be amazing for the sport if it pans out.
@@JustCuzRobotics that is amazing news! I had a feeling 2024 was going to be a good year. 😉 Keep building, competing, and doing your thang! 😎
I haven't watched that much NHRL, I'm just beginning to get involved in the robot space(leading a uni team to build an antweight), but I agree that scaling up the number of feeder events they run would be good, and then from there you qualify to their finals etc. If they really want to scale these up, they could probably tone down the production value some for the smaller events to keep costs more manageable. Or add a tier of competitions between the entry level events where anyone can enter and finals or something
I can definitely tell what you mean with the "best bots in the world" comment. I've competed in NHRL twice, and my first opponent was MUCH more dangerous than my second one.
This is pretty much my whole journey I think. Idk why but one day I searched up Battlebots and found Battlebots on YT. Then YT recommended your channel to me and I learned about smol robots. That was around 2 years ago I think.
Edit: I remember why I searched up Battlebots now. I remembered about these sumo fighting Lego Mindstorm Ev3 bot competitions that my Robotics CCA teacher had told me about and I wanted to find them but I didn't know what to search so I searched battlebots. Instead of finding robots shoving each other I found robots ripping each other apart, which is cool.
Get more arenas or open up more competitions is basically the only thing they can do to expand. They are outgrowing the current place and format. People want to fight robots and nhrl is eating this wave up with a spoon.
I heard about NHRL from your videos!
Another aspect for competitors, while there are other events, NHRL pretty much satisfies the thirst of the hobby by providing more than ample opportunity to fight. We have been competing at NHRL exclusively and in no time did we ever had a problem of not having enough events, i.e. we never looked elsewhere. With double elim going away, I hope there are enough fights per team. Two is OK. One may be too little.
I really hope they will expand to Europe sometime in the future. I love combat robotics, but here in the eu there is not really any chance to compete for any reasonable cost for a poor mechanical engineering student.
This a thousand times.
I found robot combat again at the start of the pandemic after not realizing it existed since about series 7 of Robot Wars (~2 decades ago lol) when that moved to a channel I couldn't receive on my tv. I did build some ultra-jank unsafe featherweights in the early 00s but never went to any competition, since there was basically none and at some point I just completely forgot robot combat was a thing.
Didn't even know about the battlebots/robot wars reboots or any of the "dark" competitions like robogames or NERC. So it kinda faded from memory until about 2 years ago when by accident I found a battlebots video on youtube and since then watching both heavyweight and beetle/ant weight videos, as well as channels like this with just a wealth of information that really made me want to build a new bot again.
Now I'm very interested in building a bot but since there were no competitions probably due to covid, I just put it on the backburner, but years later still almost all competitions are in the UK and maybe a couple in mainland europe, none of them within range where I can get to in a weekend and they are mostly invite-only "show" events with larger bots, not actual competitions where anyone with a bot can join which is kind of a problem when you're starting from zero.
At this point I'm either debating building an antweight box in my garage and trying to find local people to build bots with, or just wait until some regional competition appears. NHRL expanding to europe and setting up a regular competition in a "central" place like Germany would certainly help give the motivation to actually build something.
I'm sure that they will be looking to expand within the United States first but I have heard of some ideas to make it possible to start other events elsewhere more easily like for them to open source their 3 lb Arena design and sell test boxes made from old floor and wall panels. Hopefully they at least make it less painful to start up an event locally anywhere.
@@JustCuzRobotics I completely agree with this, overextension can be deadly to a growing startup and NHRL going down trying to achieve overambitious goals could be really terrible for the sport as a whole. Not just from popular attention standpoint, but also from sponsors who keep seeing these robot events be gigantic money pits.
There is also so much red tape trying to manage things across international borders, I'd rather see NHRL just get as big as it can possibly get in a sustainable way within the US instead of trying to globally blitzscale and burn a fiery death due to overhead.
I really hope that some european-based company sees the success of NHRL and smaller events like ARC or BBB events and start up similar events for the mainland. Maybe some kind of franchising?
The future is very bright for robot combat though, in no small part due to the success of NHRL.
Found out about NHRL from friends who had done it - I was in the robotics scene before it was a thing, so it was more like “oh one more place I could go to compete.” I’m not a social media expert and have heard mixed reviews on if they are or are not doing a good job at social media, so who knows.
I'd love to see NHRL become as big or bigger than battlebots. NHRL does such a great job at a lot of things, but the viewing experience for the fights themselves is still really lacking. It's probably because of the smaller size of the robots, but quite often the box itself gets in the way of seeing what's happening. NHRL has improved a lot just in the last few years so I'm sure they'll only get better.
They definitely have room for improvement though they are rapidly evolving. Still the livestream at NHRL already rivals Battlebots production quality.
Need to have competitions for flea and ant weight bots. My introduction to battlebots was 15 years ago at a middle school in Pennsylvania where they had monthly competitions for flea, ant, and bettle weight bots. I stopped going because of the 2 hour drive in each direction, and my grandsons lost interest.
"In August 2019, I built the first version of Division..."
*Holds up modern-day Division*
"...which looks nothing like this, but I'll show some clips of it in a minute."
I sold the original Division V1 frame a while back. I had two copies of Division V2 as well. One of them I sold to a builder in Australia along with the vast majority of my spare parts for it who has fought with it under the name Redback. The second is in the NHRL Bot Museum next to Bloodsport!
So many empty malls (or Sears type stores). Ready-made facilities for competitions that are often in centrally locations for the commuities they serve.
I’ve long been a fan of BB but was always frustrated with the format, so went to podcasts to get more in depth and then found NHRL this year. They both inspired me to build a bot (working on it) and also their short form video game is insanely on point. I’d love to see them pioneer a franchise model, so they can help stand up small combat divisions across the country. I feel like the next 3 years could see NHRL take over the sport and leave BB as a kind of top of the funnel. But it’s a hard business model. Events are expensive. Social view counts have to be insane to generate real revenue. Classes and sales to consumers (parts, kits, books) could all contribute. But large scale sponsorship is going to be the biggest pot of money… curious about how they expand, and it’s super exciting after years of loving BB but being unsure how to ever approach such an intimidating idea, to find NHRL
I hope they add a location in the middle of the US. Make the drives shorter for everyone
For most I mean
Same. Also. Selfishly Boston would be nice lol
@@JustCuzRobotics Agreed.
Regional leagues that have their champions face off against each other at the end of the season could be a good way to go.
@@datalich That would be interesting. The top 4 from every region, then country going against each other.
These are all good problems.
Hey Seth, idk If u ever heard of StrretBots competition here in Brazil (land of agvs bots, minotaur and Black dragon to). I think in terms of prize in cash It was one of the biggest. I dont have much info about It but It was a great show. They have scaled UP and filmed in Studio. Still waiting for the release..
I don't understand why Battlebots doesn't do a feature on NHRL. It's win-win for them and calls out the hard work being done.
100% depth charge breaching the inside wall. It's one of their biggest videos if not the biggest. I've had friends send me the video after they found it on Facebook.
That's cool. What platform did you first find it in?
@@JustCuzRobotics I've seen it on tiktok and Facebook. I was watching it live when it happened! Love NHRL!
I learned about NHRL is because of your videos. NHRL is growing on me besides being a huge fan of Battlebots.
TH-cam shorts showed me nhrl clips
I found out about Norwalk havoc because I joined my schools combat robotics club and that was just what we were going to do.
I think I found out through the robot rumble 2.0 discord server
hi, layperson who thinks robots are cool but who isnt actively pursuing it here !
i got recommended a youtube shorts video by nhrl. the nube toob vid. i liked it cuz it looks funny. a fukig tube going to a robo fight lol.
so i went to their channel and looked at their vid about the silly robots they have there. like the cat one. so silly. love it.
then it seems the algorithm has recommended me this video after i watched a few more nhrl vids
Dude you live in Framingham bro? So do I. Small world and I hope to see you around when I get done to Connecticut and good luck I will be rooting for you.😎👍
Actually I moved across the border to New Hampshire back in 2021 after a job change, but still not too far!
@@JustCuzRobotics yeah I use to drive up to the mountains one to two times a week when I use to race snowboards so I understand your dedication to your sport . Again wishing you a productive season buddy ☝️
Regarding the thumbnail question, do you believe NHRL could replace BB if they don't have 250lb tournaments?
I want to be clear about one thing first off - I don't think NHRL is actively trying to replace Battlebots. I think at worst they would try to make their own different show with a streaming network and coexist with Battlebots.
That said, I also don't agree that Battlebots is only exciting because it has 250lb robots and I think that with the correct arena and filming angles a casual viewer probably can't tell the difference between 30lbers and 250lbers honestly. It's only when the Battlebots are put next to humans that they have any real sense of scale at all. I think a much cheaper to produce and faster paced filming schedule could be maintained with 30lb bots rather than trying to scale to 250 pounds.
The heavyweight class exists as a relic from a time when the most power you could get from an electric motor under 20 pounds was like 6-8 horsepower, you needed 60 pounds of lead acid batteries to power those motors, and all of those were massive and heavy compared to modern ESCs, Lipos and brushless tech. Heavy hitting modern 30lb bots probably hit as hard as some comedy central era 120lb or 220lb bots. A brushless motor that's only 4 pounds can easily achieve 10+ horsepower. So I think if they play their cards right NHRL can make an exciting show without heavies at all.
30:56 Don't fuck it up!! Sheesh that was a bit aggressive.....
31:06 just under a minute later, I hope NHRL sees this video and didn't think I was too mean with one thing that I just said.... Um yeah I'm not with you on that one but at least you are passionate about this sport and it shows.
I did say it was unscripted LMAO. For real though I think overall the message was well received. Kelly herself said she appreciated it
Personally I don't like the weight classes under 30lb at all. Most of them are way to fast and completely out of control most of the time. Mostly just tiny things zipping around like a cat on crack and bouncing through the Arena like 5 times on a hit.
I just watch your Channel cause you're super cool and I like watching you ^^
most recent live stream is at 80+k views
I so want NHRL on the West Coast.
Definitely seems like a good location to expand to given Battlebots is west coast and a huge portion of competitors are from Nevada, California and Seattle.
@@JustCuzRobotics- Vegas is so accessible I kind of wonder if NHRL could coexist there with Battlebots.
How many of the hundred or so bots registered for March from brand new builders vs experienced builders?
According to the NHRL Event Robot Database (NERD), 22 human competitors have never competed in Combat Robotics ever before. Also ~50 of the robots themselves have never competed at any competition before (some from the new builders, others from established builders)
I can't wait for the day BattleBots is relegated to nothing but heavyweight show-fights. They're halfway there already.
Would be cool if NHRL would just buy Robogames.
I want to see massive robots like in uk robotwars 100kg or more if allowed.Not 30lb tippytappies..BIG IS ALWAYS BETTER IN FIGHTING ROBOTS😊🎉🎉
My introduction to NHRL was from my youtube recommended, then I went to january and now im hooked
EDIT: I really hope NHRL doesn't make registration caps, as that will stop alot of people from joining. I think a better system is 2 - 3 events replacing an event, and you can only apply to one of them.
EDIT EDIT: Also, I think having 2 streams that you could watch would be way better.
16k views for a channel with 90k subs is actually pretty decent, you should most of the time expect your view count to be roughly 10% of your subscribers count.
It varies wildly, but yeah that's not the best example. Most of my videos on my channel with 5500 subscribers average 1200-2000 views in the first 2 weeks
@@JustCuzRobotics I've had similar numbers too when I used to run a channel, but it really is above average
Easy, TH-cam has more eyes than TV ever will.
But will TH-cam sustain such growth? It's a cheaper event sure but still quite an expensive production. I think they are on the right path. But TV deals are worth millions of dollars whereas TH-cam sponsors are usually low thousands.
28:27 shamelessly self-promoting 🙂
2023 - 2015 = 8
Grad. from college at(presumably) 22
22 + 8 = 30
You're 30? Wow. You don't look it.
On wait... you said you graduated from HIGH SCHOOL in 2015. I'm stupid. Sooo... 30 - 4 = 26. That makes more sense.
LOL yeah 26
the youtube analytics recommended both you and NHRL after i streamed the Bugglebots tournament out of England.
and Nationwide Havoc has a better ring to it