The problem is the amount of granulation and desire to give promotions for every few months or years of service. At the time a soldier has finished even the most basic training after 12 months, they would already have been promoted 3 times! Compared to the former German militaries, a modern Hauptgefreiter is equivalent to an old Gefreiter (who used to be a skilled soldier good at his craft, but without leadership requirements, now it’s just someone straight out of basic training). In our army, a soldier is only considered an OR-1 after finishing the 12 months of required training to be a basic rifleman in the professional forces. In the Bundeswehr, the same person would be considered OR-3 - the same rank that our enlisted troops would reach after a total of 5 years in service. Just utter insanity, and I thought the Americans using Staff Sergeants as squad leaders was bad. You can go look at the NATO rank translations, and you’ll see the BW has 2-4 ranks for every actual rank level, but they just slap Unter, Ober, Stabs to everything to make it seem like more ranks.
Your pronunciation of German words is very good, especially with the tongue twisters that are Feldwebel-variations also, Division 2025 explanation next? I´d be very interested in that
this could also be located at the location at Soesterberg. one of the 43 repair units will be relocated there for that reason. but as far as we know that wont be for a while
This breakdown of the German Leopard units was engaging, well done Battle Order. Your pronunciation of the German ranks was pretty spot-on. It has to be said, the family tree of the Leopard 2 is quite hefty to say the least.
Could you do a similar video on the Austrian armored forces? They are similarly equipped, however due to the different terrain and environment they also use a variety of unique systems and produce their own vehicles such as the Pandur. They also still service the Kürassier light tanks as mobile direct fire support
Imagine adding all the other variants like the Leopard 2PL, SG, A4M, Strv 122, PSO, RI, NG, TR, 2A6EX, E. Don’t even get started on other non-tank variants like SPAA and engineering, and the Vickers Mk.7 which uses the Leopard 2’s hull.
Very nice organized overview of a complicated subject.
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I started trying to do a "short" Video about all Leo 2 Variants and then had to stop because I couldnt get Photos/Video definatly showing all the Minutely different Models :) Which was probably a good call for my sanity. Great Video. But dont try and see the german Tank Museum in Münster. It is in Munster :)
just wait until we send you your new panther kf51 and lynx kf41 tanks. We germans will make your tank forces interesting believe me. germans never let you down (like you italiens did 80 years ago.. just a little reminder xd). at least italy, norway, lithuania, tschechia and the dutch still know who their friends are. The god damn polish people on the other side bought their new tanks from south corea! i never will forgive that betrail. Never bring corean tanks into OUR european tank marked. 23 leopard nations, every tank cannon in the western world, even the american abraham tanks, the ariete tanks and the french leclerc tank cannon are german. We get rid of the french leclerc with knds and the msbt, the challenger 3 tank is build by a company owned 51% by rheinmetall and is developed by rheinmetall and of course with challenger 3 also got a german tank cannon. with the panther kf51 we also got rid of the italian ariete tanks and FINALLY finally the hole european tank marked of the western world is german, and EUROPEAN DOMINATION is finally entirely completed! yeeeah. do you see we germans are friendly now and totally god rid of the idea of world domination or something like that. buuut there is this one little country which betrayed us by buying corean main battle tanks.. its called poland. what do we do here to solve that problem..
There is an own careerline in the Bundeswehr which match the warrant officers of the US Army even better. Called Fachdienstoffiziere who rank typicly bettween Lt and Captain. They are very common in the German Army Aviation branch an fullfill simular tasks as the US Warrants( mainly pilot and maintanace rolls).
Not that precisely, as the German Army prouds itself to be founded on a well educated NCO corps that can lead men (and women) in battle. The Warrant Officers are the Fachdienstoffiziere that have more specialized tasks and are not trained that much to be leaders (at least like comparable officers, German officers learn to think one level above, so as a platoon leader you learn company tactics, etc).
@ The video stated that they were not common enlisted NCOs, but were instead career NCOs that were brought in initially at that higher rank, and initially trained and then managed that way.
@@AndrewClose-oi6ct medium forces would be a more accurate translation. I guess it would be nice to compare them to the American Stryker brigade combat team.
The Stabskorporal and Korporal is in contrast to Oberstabsgefreiter also linked to your duty position. For example every enlisted man will reach "Oberstabsgefreiter" after 4 years but he wount become a "Korporal" if his position in the unit structure doesnt support this pay grade. To become a Korporal and later Stabskorporal you habe to apply for a position which supports this rank. For example in Light Infantry Battalions (Jägertruppe) the Enlisted Sharpshooters are usualy Korporal/Stabskorporal as well as the driver for the Battalion Commander and the squadleader of Tow/Mels anti tank squads or similar Specialized enlisted squads.
Ok. I am German. I was a paratrooper back when it was still a division. I´m a long time follower of Battle Order. (In fact since the third video) This is the first video that broke my mind.
Love all the videos! I would be very interested in a compare and contrast video about armies with direct entry Nco programs and armys that dont. Pros/cons, Methodology, why and why not. Etc Thank you for being the best military organization Nerd on TH-cam!
Great video! I'm curious bout the officer ranks though, because I'm not used to seeing Captains (Hauptmänner) as platoon leaders and Majors as company COs. That must be a very reason development, as been Captains leading companies and Lieutenants (or NCOs) leading platoons was the norm a few years back. Rank inflation is definitely a thing though, so I can imagine, that this has changed recently.
These are the desired ranks at least in the army. COs in the Navy Infantry and the Air Force are supposed to be Hauptleute. Also, this might be diverted from due to availability, especially in places where specific qualification is required, for example the Fallschirmjäger EGB.
I'm also used to NCO's running the platoons, but I served during a time when conscription was still a thing and there were a lot more career NCO's in the Bundeswehr than there are today
has been said before but i have to really congratulate on the German pronunciation! Division 2025/2027 and the Neue Heeresstruktur overall would be very amazing to see a video on. Also maybe look at the Mittlere Kräfte wich will be the German interpretation of the Stryker based Forces. The concept, especially in combination with the Boxer vehicle is interesting and could be compared to other 8x8 based forces. Greetings from Hamburg
Apparently, the German battalions will eventually be joined by the first Lithuanian tank battalion made from the newest Leopard 2s and two additional new armored infantry battalions with the CV-90s. Along with existing forces, that's quite a lot for a small country like Lithuania.
@@norbi1411 despite other nations, Lithuanias issue os more paying for the gear to outkit their troops, less form getting the manpower. They dont have the money, but Lithuanians know what russian (or german) occupation means. They want to remin free this time.
There are two versions of the Leopard 2A4, the 1. batch and 2.nd batch. The Leopard 2A4 from the first batch can not be upgraded, those of the 2nd batch can be upgraded to 2A6/A7. Germany therefore sold early all Leopard 2A4 of the first batch for a cheap price, eg to Poland, Turkey, Singapore. They developed own upgrade programs for their 2A4´s, with more or less success. The difference between the two Leopard 2A4s is considerable, those of the second batch have multi-layer armor, those of the first batch only have steel armor, that cannot be changed or upgradet.
I think you switched up the locations of the PzLehrBtl 93 and PzBtl414 @13:55 ... the 93rd is in Munster near Celle and it kind of makes sense to have the 414 near the dutch border.
414 is indeed situated near Bergen, whereas L93 is in Munster, which is about 30 km to the north of it. Yes, we have two batallions on top of each other. Problem?
414 is in Bergen because thats a big training ground where lots of Brits and Holländers already trained for many decades. So its a "grinded in" location and the Dutch know they prefer to defend the Netherlandson German or Baltic ground anyway.
I know you did a short on the Australian infantry section, but I would love to see a full video on a battalion or even a brigade, as well as a Canadian one would be interesting
The newer variants of Leo2 are currently being offered with a RWS instead of a pintle-mounted MG, including the probability of fitting the RWS with a 12.7 mm heavy machine gun.
@@patta8388 Incorrect. You got numbers mixed up, all A6 will eventually be _upgraded_to A8, the 105 A8 order will not replace legacy systems. They are all additional units.
But to be fair thats probably the case for any modern army. Tanks being developed further are getting more complex in context of electronics, protection capabilities and similar things, which means they are also getting more expensive. That naturally leads to lower numbers and (without having done any deeper research) I am pretty sure that this phenomenon occurs on most modern armys nowadays.
I’ve often heard criticism about the promotion culture in the German army. It’s important to understand that German soldiers typically complete vocational training before joining the military. At least 60% of Bundeswehr personnel have undergone such training. For example, a combat engineer (Pionier) likely trained as a bricklayer, steelworker, or reinforced concrete constructor before enlisting. Someone responsible for vehicle maintenance might have been trained as an auto mechanic or automotive mechatronics technician. And so on. This means that these individuals often spend three years learning a civilian trade before joining the Bundeswehr. As a result, they already have the necessary technical knowledge and then receive specialized military training. This stands in stark contrast to someone in the U.S. who joins the army straight out of high school or perhaps worked at McDonald’s before enlisting.
@@Texo333 yes. As the European Divisions are supposed to fight under NATO Corps, having just a Brigade available might not make that much sense in terms of cooperation. If the Dutch wanted a Division they would have a Armored, Medium Armored and Airborne Brigade in their Division which might not make that much sense
I have been looking on your videos for a long time, and i think it would be great if you done a video about units (Army, Regiment, Battalion, etc. ) and their signings. I think this would be great for alot of people.
There are son many other Leopard 2 variants, but likely all will eventuall be replaced by the Leopard 2A-RC 3.0 (aka Leopard 3), which has an unmanned turret, a crew of only 3 and can use the 120mm L55, or a new 130mm gun from Rheinmetall, or even the 140mm Ascalon. I assume this will effectively be the new tank and there will be no further progression towards the MGCS.
I remember seeing a video a while back about a German tank unit moving to Lithuania as part of Steadfast Defender, in which one of the Leopard crewman explicitly stated that his units A7V was a newly produced tank when they received it. My memory could be wrong, but I think I also read something along the line that new production was cheaper than upgrading due to age and wear in some forum, thus only the first batch was of upgraded tanks. Does anyone know more?
As far as i know tank hulls suffer fatigue after decades in use (depending on how many hours and how rough they where driven) so they have to be replaced by new ones anyway. And the older turrets have a weak spot in the turretfront,where the optics where originaly positioned. So getting new ones might be necessary. Plus germanys 100bio "Sondervermögen" can only be spend on purchasing stuff, not Training recruitment etc.
The A7V program is born in 2017 and A7V means "verbessert" or enhanced. And the A7V is in reference to the A7V of 1917, only 20 pieces produced during the WWI...
German, in trying to create a system solely based on logic to reduce confusion, end up with something much more confusing....... Where have I seen this before?
There's a fitting xkcd for it (as everything). "SITUATION: There are 14 competing standards." "14?! Ridiculous! We need to develop one universal standard that covers everyone's use cases" "Yeah!" "SITUATION: There are 15 competing standards."
Now how many of those can actually do a road march to the East? It seems like they are short on tanks if they are going to have 5-6 tank battalions. Logistics in the field would be a problem as well. It would be interesting to see if they could manage to field a full brigade, it's been a probably been a while since a full Brigade was exercised in person by the Germans.
Keeping track of the German Army ranks is an even bigger headache than tracking all the Leo 2 variants in that family tree...
Leopard 2 is child's play. Try the Boxer and all the MAN trucks. It's so much worse
Its simpel. Expirance in your designatet field makes you leader and outrank any one. Very easy. Rank is symbolic. Knowledge is power.
I can't agree, while different from US one, German rank system makes sense
Those are two best rank systems in my opinion
The problem is the amount of granulation and desire to give promotions for every few months or years of service. At the time a soldier has finished even the most basic training after 12 months, they would already have been promoted 3 times! Compared to the former German militaries, a modern Hauptgefreiter is equivalent to an old Gefreiter (who used to be a skilled soldier good at his craft, but without leadership requirements, now it’s just someone straight out of basic training). In our army, a soldier is only considered an OR-1 after finishing the 12 months of required training to be a basic rifleman in the professional forces. In the Bundeswehr, the same person would be considered OR-3 - the same rank that our enlisted troops would reach after a total of 5 years in service. Just utter insanity, and I thought the Americans using Staff Sergeants as squad leaders was bad. You can go look at the NATO rank translations, and you’ll see the BW has 2-4 ranks for every actual rank level, but they just slap Unter, Ober, Stabs to everything to make it seem like more ranks.
@@LDZMarder Yeah it really isnt lmao
As a Kraut I can say that your pronaunciation of the German ranks/ vehicles is damn good. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for your extra confirmation Kraut 👌
Except for the Büffel - the ü always gets them! 😅
English is a Germanic language so it's not super difficult once you figure out the vowels.
I have the same thought. Other English speaker would shredded this words to pieces. 😅
Well, for an American
That chart of the Leo 2s development history is a thing of beauty!
And it doesn't even cover all the 2A4 variants for other countries!
@@MajinOthinusyea, it's about German service Leopards...
@derrickstorm6976 Utterly and entirely besides the point.
Love it. When's the video on German Panzergrenadiers coming?
Es ist kein Mensch, es ist kein Tier, es ist ein Panzergrenadier!
@@not-a-theist8251 Und Gott fragte die Steine, wollt ihr Panzergrenadiere werden? - und sie antworteten, Nein Herr, wir sind nicht hart genug.
Never Say NEVER 😎 Justin Bieber
@@not-a-theist8251 Mein Liebling ist für die Jäger.
Sie sind das Essen und wir sind die Jäger!
@@not-a-theist8251 Eisenschwein setzt kette ein und 1+1 ist 4 ich bin ein Panzergrenadier, darf man auch nicht vergessen
Awesome Video! One minor error: PzLehrBtl 93 is shown on the map at Münster. But it is located in Munster. The two dots are 300km apart 😂
shush! It is a deliberate deception to fool "the enemy"
Das ist eine Absichtliche Täuschung "Des Feindes"!!
Yeah thats an easy thing to miss.
@@ulrichkalber9039Was für Feinde!? Das rot -grune Deutschland hat nur Freunde 😊😊😊
I dont know how many people make this error....
Your pronunciation of German words is very good, especially with the tongue twisters that are Feldwebel-variations
also, Division 2025 explanation next? I´d be very interested in that
The Dutch army just ordered 46 of Leopard-2A8 which will undoubtably become part of the German army as the Dutch army is now fully integrated.
this could also be located at the location at Soesterberg. one of the 43 repair units will be relocated there for that reason. but as far as we know that wont be for a while
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@@YuccavdHeideif that is true. They will be right next to Amersfoort. Home of the Cavalry..
@rubensteenvoorden1923 exactly. Ain't no coincidence that there used to be a tank training grounds at the Leusder heide
fully integrated in what?
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Just seeing the different production variants and where they were sent shows that nothing ever changes.
This breakdown of the German Leopard units was engaging, well done Battle Order. Your pronunciation of the German ranks was pretty spot-on. It has to be said, the family tree of the Leopard 2 is quite hefty to say the least.
War Thunder devs looking at that Leo conversion chart:
*Write that down, write that down!*
Could you do a similar video on the Austrian armored forces? They are similarly equipped, however due to the different terrain and environment they also use a variety of unique systems and produce their own vehicles such as the Pandur. They also still service the Kürassier light tanks as mobile direct fire support
The last Kürassiers were decomissioned in 2014, with their last role having been recon tanks in the Artillery and Reconnaisance Bataillons (AAB)
PzLBtl 93 is stationed in Munster near Lüneburg not Münster
In Münster kann es nur ein Fahrrad Battalion geben
Very cool breakdown and visual presentation of the development of the Leopard 2!
Also the display of total numbers of different versions.
Great Job!
This family tree is as convoluted as that of the Hapsburg’s
its only half of it. He did start at the Leo2 base line.
Imagine adding all the other variants like the Leopard 2PL, SG, A4M, Strv 122, PSO, RI, NG, TR, 2A6EX, E.
Don’t even get started on other non-tank variants like SPAA and engineering, and the Vickers Mk.7 which uses the Leopard 2’s hull.
@@dannyzero692 or the Leotard or was it the le´pard?
They've already starting the inbreeding with the dutch and canadians!
@@dannyzero692 add the HU and DK, for the 2a7s
Didnt know about some of the specific Leo A7 and M variations, very nice video.
Very nice organized overview of a complicated subject.
I started trying to do a "short" Video about all Leo 2 Variants and then had to stop because I couldnt get Photos/Video definatly showing all the Minutely different Models :) Which was probably a good call for my sanity. Great Video. But dont try and see the german Tank Museum in Münster. It is in Munster :)
I know Italian tanks (right now) aren’t interesting to cover, but get me a video on Italian Centauro (Cavalry) units and my life is yours!
just wait until we send you your new panther kf51 and lynx kf41 tanks. We germans will make your tank forces interesting believe me. germans never let you down (like you italiens did 80 years ago.. just a little reminder xd). at least italy, norway, lithuania, tschechia and the dutch still know who their friends are. The god damn polish people on the other side bought their new tanks from south corea! i never will forgive that betrail. Never bring corean tanks into OUR european tank marked. 23 leopard nations, every tank cannon in the western world, even the american abraham tanks, the ariete tanks and the french leclerc tank cannon are german. We get rid of the french leclerc with knds and the msbt, the challenger 3 tank is build by a company owned 51% by rheinmetall and is developed by rheinmetall and of course with challenger 3 also got a german tank cannon. with the panther kf51 we also got rid of the italian ariete tanks and FINALLY finally the hole european tank marked of the western world is german, and EUROPEAN DOMINATION is finally entirely completed! yeeeah. do you see we germans are friendly now and totally god rid of the idea of world domination or something like that. buuut there is this one little country which betrayed us by buying corean main battle tanks.. its called poland. what do we do here to solve that problem..
Awesome video! Your quality keeps improving. Would love to see a video on the new NATO multi-national brigade in Latvia
The use of these career NCOs in these organizations reminds me very much of warrant officers in Army Aviation.
There is an own careerline in the Bundeswehr which match the warrant officers of the US Army even better. Called Fachdienstoffiziere who rank typicly bettween Lt and Captain. They are very common in the German Army Aviation branch an fullfill simular tasks as the US Warrants( mainly pilot and maintanace rolls).
Not that precisely, as the German Army prouds itself to be founded on a well educated NCO corps that can lead men (and women) in battle. The Warrant Officers are the Fachdienstoffiziere that have more specialized tasks and are not trained that much to be leaders (at least like comparable officers, German officers learn to think one level above, so as a platoon leader you learn company tactics, etc).
Not really they are common enlisted NCOs
@ The video stated that they were not common enlisted NCOs, but were instead career NCOs that were brought in initially at that higher rank, and initially trained and then managed that way.
JAAAAA! Finally a video about the (modern) Bundeswehr!!
12:19 The GTF cant be an armored kitchen, field kitchens are trailers and found in the staff and support company.
The kitchen would be a TFK 250 and it's a trailer. It's being replaced by a TFKC which is two containers. Both are produced by Kärcher.
Your diagrams showing both the Leopard 2 variants/Evolution aswell as the different ranks are very good!
Brilliant. Have been waiting for an overview of modern Heerstruktur. Panzergrenedier next? And then a review of the forthcoming 14:56 “Middleforces”?
@@AndrewClose-oi6ct medium forces would be a more accurate translation. I guess it would be nice to compare them to the American Stryker brigade combat team.
@ oh I agree, I was just relating to the strict deutsch translation. 🙌🏻
@@AndrewClose-oi6ct ah fair!
The Stabskorporal and Korporal is in contrast to Oberstabsgefreiter also linked to your duty position. For example every enlisted man will reach "Oberstabsgefreiter" after 4 years but he wount become a "Korporal" if his position in the unit structure doesnt support this pay grade. To become a Korporal and later Stabskorporal you habe to apply for a position which supports this rank. For example in Light Infantry Battalions (Jägertruppe) the Enlisted Sharpshooters are usualy Korporal/Stabskorporal as well as the driver for the Battalion Commander and the squadleader of Tow/Mels anti tank squads or similar Specialized enlisted squads.
And then comes the feared "Stellenwahrheit" ^^
Ok. I am German. I was a paratrooper back when it was still a division. I´m a long time follower of Battle Order. (In fact since the third video)
This is the first video that broke my mind.
I also second that the pronounciation of the German terms was very good!
Very good pronounciation! Good to see modern german units
Love all the videos!
I would be very interested in a compare and contrast video about armies with direct entry Nco programs and armys that dont.
Pros/cons, Methodology, why and why not. Etc
Thank you for being the best military organization Nerd on TH-cam!
Great video!
I'm curious bout the officer ranks though, because I'm not used to seeing Captains (Hauptmänner) as platoon leaders and Majors as company COs. That must be a very reason development, as been Captains leading companies and Lieutenants (or NCOs) leading platoons was the norm a few years back. Rank inflation is definitely a thing though, so I can imagine, that this has changed recently.
They're are still in the onfantry.
These are the desired ranks at least in the army. COs in the Navy Infantry and the Air Force are supposed to be Hauptleute.
Also, this might be diverted from due to availability, especially in places where specific qualification is required, for example the Fallschirmjäger EGB.
I'm also used to NCO's running the platoons, but I served during a time when conscription was still a thing and there were a lot more career NCO's in the Bundeswehr than there are today
They still have NCOs and Junior Officer like Lt. Leading Platoons only the 1st Platoon leader is meant to be more experienced.
Very well done and researched, and good pronounciation :) Thanks a lot, and greets from Germany :)
Slava SAUERKRAUT 🥙
has been said before but i have to really congratulate on the German pronunciation!
Division 2025/2027 and the Neue Heeresstruktur overall would be very amazing to see a video on.
Also maybe look at the Mittlere Kräfte wich will be the German interpretation of the Stryker based Forces. The concept, especially in combination with the Boxer vehicle is interesting and could be compared to other 8x8 based forces.
Greetings from Hamburg
You should do a video regarding Cypriot Armored Divisions + most suitable procurement for the National Guard.
Id love to see a Battle Order video on the Turkish forces.
Respect for not completely butchering German words, I couldn't have watched this video otherwise.
Never thought id see the GÜZ mentioned anywhere on youtube
Their urban training area is the largest on the continent. Shame no one except Germans can pronounce the name though.
Apparently, the German battalions will eventually be joined by the first Lithuanian tank battalion made from the newest Leopard 2s and two additional new armored infantry battalions with the CV-90s. Along with existing forces, that's quite a lot for a small country like Lithuania.
It's not that big of a step in terms of manpower from what they already got
@@norbi1411 despite other nations, Lithuanias issue os more paying for the gear to outkit their troops, less form getting the manpower. They dont have the money, but Lithuanians know what russian (or german) occupation means. They want to remin free this time.
@@Grimshak81 thats why they building a whole new permanent millitary base for germany
6:17 "erklimme die Karriereleiter unser Oberstabsgefreiter"
I would *love* to see one of these covering Chally units.
There are two versions of the Leopard 2A4, the 1. batch and 2.nd batch. The Leopard 2A4 from the first batch can not be upgraded, those of the 2nd batch can be upgraded to 2A6/A7. Germany therefore sold early all Leopard 2A4 of the first batch for a cheap price, eg to Poland, Turkey, Singapore. They developed own upgrade programs for their 2A4´s, with more or less success. The difference between the two Leopard 2A4s is considerable, those of the second batch have multi-layer armor, those of the first batch only have steel armor, that cannot be changed or upgradet.
Awesome video, thanks! I have been looking forward to see the German military in your videos.
*Thank you, Comrad!*
DIESE KOMMENTARSEKTION IST NUN EIGENTUM DER BUNDESREPUBLIK DEUTSCHLAND
Such a good video. I see tonks and I hit the like. Simple transaction.
9:46 that pudding is so delicious
Great video. Small mistake: u showed the Panzerlehrbataillon 93 as located in Münster on ur map. Its actually located in Munster.
is there gonna be a video about the organisation of the german paratroopers in the near future?
Well done! Thanks for posting.
I think you switched up the locations of the PzLehrBtl 93 and PzBtl414 @13:55 ... the 93rd is in Munster near Celle and it kind of makes sense to have the 414 near the dutch border.
No, just the location of PzLehrBtl 93 is an error because Münster and Munster are different cities.
414 is indeed situated near Bergen, whereas L93 is in Munster, which is about 30 km to the north of it. Yes, we have two batallions on top of each other. Problem?
414 is in Bergen because thats a big training ground where lots of Brits and Holländers already trained for many decades. So its a "grinded in" location and the Dutch know they prefer to defend the Netherlandson German or Baltic ground anyway.
LETS F**KING GOOOOOOOO!!!
_GERMAN ARMOR IS THE _*_FINEST IN THE WORLD!_*
God I love that 10th Panzer Division Insignia
I know you did a short on the Australian infantry section, but I would love to see a full video on a battalion or even a brigade, as well as a Canadian one would be interesting
Great video Battle Order, keep up the good work! I would like to see something related to Sweden, lots of new and exiting equipment to come!
"[...] so the MP7s go to the turret crew."
I, and I shit you not, unironically heard "the *turd* crew." and was somewhat confused for a sec xD
This is the video I was waiting for! Very very nice.
Great vid BO. Very informative.
This asks for an indept video on the Dutch army
The newer variants of Leo2 are currently being offered with a RWS instead of a pintle-mounted MG, including the probability of fitting the RWS with a 12.7 mm heavy machine gun.
Fun fact: With the 2A8 orders on the way Germany will have more MBTs and France and the UK combined in a few years.
The A8's will replace a bunch of the older A6's.
The total number of tanks won't change much, the Bundeswehr doesn't have the manpower.
@@patta8388 Incorrect. You got numbers mixed up, all A6 will eventually be _upgraded_to A8, the 105 A8 order will not replace legacy systems. They are all additional units.
Awesome Video, as a German I learned so much out of it and I always enjoy us pronounciation 😅
We used to have almost 3000 MBTs of which only about 300 remain. And not all of these are even ready for deployment.
I feel you, brother. A real disgrace from the Cold War days.
But to be fair thats probably the case for any modern army. Tanks being developed further are getting more complex in context of electronics, protection capabilities and similar things, which means they are also getting more expensive. That naturally leads to lower numbers and (without having done any deeper research) I am pretty sure that this phenomenon occurs on most modern armys nowadays.
Finaly! I looking for this video long time :)
I’ve often heard criticism about the promotion culture in the German army. It’s important to understand that German soldiers typically complete vocational training before joining the military. At least 60% of Bundeswehr personnel have undergone such training.
For example, a combat engineer (Pionier) likely trained as a bricklayer, steelworker, or reinforced concrete constructor before enlisting. Someone responsible for vehicle maintenance might have been trained as an auto mechanic or automotive mechatronics technician. And so on.
This means that these individuals often spend three years learning a civilian trade before joining the Bundeswehr. As a result, they already have the necessary technical knowledge and then receive specialized military training.
This stands in stark contrast to someone in the U.S. who joins the army straight out of high school or perhaps worked at McDonald’s before enlisting.
will you ever do video on cuban rifle squad? i can’t find very much documentation on them and it would be really cool, love ur videos always!
That reminds me back to school and the text questions. I was waiting for the question "how many A2A6M+ does Germany own?" XD
The Netherlands also bought 50 2A8 to create a new battalion, not a shared one with the Germans
The dutch army is completely implemented in the german army.
But integrated in to the bundeswehr
So its owned by the netherlands but they are still part of the German division?
@@Texo333 yes. As the European Divisions are supposed to fight under NATO Corps, having just a Brigade available might not make that much sense in terms of cooperation. If the Dutch wanted a Division they would have a Armored, Medium Armored and Airborne Brigade in their Division which might not make that much sense
@@Texo333 yes. All of the dutch Land forces are integrated into the structure of the Bundeswehr.
I have been looking on your videos for a long time, and i think it would be great if you done a video about units (Army, Regiment, Battalion, etc. ) and their signings. I think this would be great for alot of people.
Hey man can you do a video or more about an Italian brigade?
Like Sassari or ariete or Garibaldi, pls man do it for the sake of my beloved country
German Leopard 2 Units are equipped with german Leopard 2.
Shokking.
not as "shokking" as somebody using the world shokking instead of schockierend
There are son many other Leopard 2 variants, but likely all will eventuall be replaced by the Leopard 2A-RC 3.0 (aka Leopard 3), which has an unmanned turret, a crew of only 3 and can use the 120mm L55, or a new 130mm gun from Rheinmetall, or even the 140mm Ascalon.
I assume this will effectively be the new tank and there will be no further progression towards the MGCS.
They named one tank the A7V, i expected them to name the next major variant "K-Wagen"
Brillant, once again
Would be cool if you did this with all the Abrams variants between the Army and USMC
there is a hatch on the 2A7V to carry two G36Cs for the crew
Hey battle order can you make a video on the polish he grom
I remember seeing a video a while back about a German tank unit moving to Lithuania as part of Steadfast Defender, in which one of the Leopard crewman explicitly stated that his units A7V was a newly produced tank when they received it. My memory could be wrong, but I think I also read something along the line that new production was cheaper than upgrading due to age and wear in some forum, thus only the first batch was of upgraded tanks. Does anyone know more?
As far as i know tank hulls suffer fatigue after decades in use (depending on how many hours and how rough they where driven) so they have to be replaced by new ones anyway. And the older turrets have a weak spot in the turretfront,where the optics where originaly positioned. So getting new ones might be necessary.
Plus germanys 100bio "Sondervermögen" can only be spend on purchasing stuff, not Training recruitment etc.
@ This purchase would have predated to Sondervermögen.
They probably meant that they were newly received by them, not that they’re new builds. They just wrapped up delivering them last year
The moment a Company Sargent that i know, is shown at min. 9.44 in the video, LoL...
I like your channel profile picture!
Großkatzen im Anmarsch!
Grinding the leo2a6 in warthunder tales longer than an abmverage upgrade cycle lol
Any deeper info about organisation of staff and support company?
The A7V program is born in 2017 and A7V means "verbessert" or enhanced. And the A7V is in reference to the A7V of 1917, only 20 pieces produced during the WWI...
Could you do a video on the German mechanised puma infantry
Complicated - very complicated - German military organization
The American is worse.
id like to see a video on the Canadian Mechanized Brigade Groups
He did one on Canada I just can't remember if it's mech. But it's on there main lav 6 and leopard one.
Can you do a video on the Danish army or other Nordic militaries?
Great video
German, in trying to create a system solely based on logic to reduce confusion, end up with something much more confusing.......
Where have I seen this before?
There's a fitting xkcd for it (as everything).
"SITUATION: There are 14 competing standards."
"14?! Ridiculous! We need to develop one universal standard that covers everyone's use cases" "Yeah!"
"SITUATION: There are 15 competing standards."
Awesome 👍
astron rex for pennies on boosteroid is the stuff
Come on, its not music theory!
Musician: Come on, its not rocket science!
Rocket Scientist: Come on, its not the German Army Rank System!
artillery type of armor is more useful on the modern battlefield where indirect fire reign king, that or short barrel IFV for urban combat
Now how many of those can actually do a road march to the East? It seems like they are short on tanks if they are going to have 5-6 tank battalions. Logistics in the field would be a problem as well. It would be interesting to see if they could manage to field a full brigade, it's been a probably been a while since a full Brigade was exercised in person by the Germans.
Video about dismounted/mounted combat engineers/sappers?
Video on cuban btr 100? please
Nice video. But the 93th lehrBtl was placed wrongly on the map. Its garrison lies in Munster...you placed it in MÜnster, another town.
How does the Leopard 2 A7+ fit into all this? And how about the Leopard Revolutions 1 & 2?
btw, german batallions have cardinal numbers, not ordinal numbers, so it's tank batallion 203.
PzLehrBtl now only has A6, no A7V
No ambulance for the tank company?