I was around at that time. Let me put it into perspective: Pentium processors did not exist. To successfully write a song we combined several PC's hahaha. So you had a sampler and a 303 if you could spend the bucks. 16mb sample memory. Kick and bass were ONE channel a lot of times, you did this by sequencing envelopes in MIDI CC. It was kinda wild.
Young folks did really used only pc as I understand. But with money old second hand or even third hand synths wear used. So low pass filter was mostly only filter in goa trance. Also rack synths and pc as sequencer was very common way to make trance. Ones that didn't get TB 303 used novation bass station mk1 etc. Also with only Roland SH-101 was used to make full goa track. Thas what I have read about goa trance history.
I love how the younger generation considers the modern form of psy as 'regular' trance. :) Once upon a time there was only acid trance and then Goa was born. I'm 46, was here for it all the first time, and so glad to see the current resurgence of interest in the classic Goa style. I love both sides of the coin, but my heart will always be in Goa. Your tutorials are very well explained and easy to follow; much appreciated! Oh, and my personal taste requires a tambourine to be in the drum kit for it to be consider 'true' Goa trance. :) *runs and hides from the millennial stampede* :)
haha I'm 42 & I grew up in goa.. There is a magic with Goa Trance that I am so glad I was there at the beginning. From Acid trance to Goa Trance I am vey grateful for having been part of the movement & watching it change. Maybe we danced together in Goa partys?? Bom Shanker!
it is already making a comeback. goa trance is now more popular than ever before (if you discount the golden years 97 plus minus one year). the amount of goa releases is increasing every year since 2002 and there have been more newschool goa releases than oldschool ones for quite some time now. if you've missed it up to now you've got a treasure trove of good music to discover.
@@tru7hhimself So true man! In Israel where I'm from, new school Goa is booming with lots of parties playing specifically Goa trance (also retro sets) There are many new acts such as "Psykorhythm" for example, who are killing every dancefloor around the country this year (2021). There are so many good Goa music the past years. I highly recommend the album "Cosmic waves by Atlantis". U can find it on TH-cam. Absolutely brilliant!! 🕉️
Thanks for doing this! There are a billion tutorials for the typical psytrance bass but nothing for Goa. Would love for you to keep going with this series and do leads, arps, and so forth
Thank Gods.... I found my Tribe.. I just realized I have been making GOA / Psy Trance all along and never had been properly introduced. Thank you for making this series and diving into the technical intricacies.
Why did I just find it now. Goa Trance was brilliant and so beautiful psychedelic. These raves are some memories, like the real Love Parade. Nobody can take them from us! I think it’s time to revive that music
Goa baselines, and the genre itself, evolved from traditional EBM. In very early tracks to around '94 you can REALLY hear this, before the stabby/bouncy drone started to dominate. At some point this was simplified from running 16th note EBM style basslines to the simple one note rolling that's common now.
Nice idea to come back to the roots !!! It’s bring me back to my first « free parties » (i mean not allowed parties ), in agricultural fields ten years ago 🤩 ! Thanks to listened « astral projection » and « electric universe » i embraced this music way. Sweet souvenirs ! Thank You Dash !!
Goa is still alive! There are amazing new school Goa acts out there, and many specifically Goa trance parties. Look them up in your country 🕉️ If anyone would like recommendations I would be happy to give some 😊
I've only just discovered goa trance this week after being a long time trance and psytrance listener. inspired me to get back into production and try join the other wonderful people trying to bring this genre back to the main stage
Who were the os that were doing rural dance parties in SA in the 90s. I remember one was far out in the wilderness, fynbos, we drove for hours. They put up all those lumo stretch sails. So rad.
I started producing like a month ago and the only thing that I want is to make GOA trance :D These videos help enourmously! Im on FL studio but I got this pay to own shizzle on Sylenth and Serum.
interesting finding this video as I spent a lot of time working in studios making Goa back in the 90's... It's worth noting that the limitations of the time drove us into having to be innovative and creative and the lack of any internet meant that this knowledge was highly revered and just as sought after as the gear is today.. There were a number of techniques that were used to maximise the gear limitations and the biggest one of these was the hardware sampler which was an absolute games changer for many and was the source for drums on 90% of records of the time.. even then, 909s were too expensive so most people would put the money towards an Akai S1000 or similar. Outboard and mixers were another essential tool and were used in a far more dynamic way, rather like an instrument in itself... many of the sounds such as kicks and snares were layered up through the desk, then compressed and gated to achieve the tightness of sound and then resampled back for use in the track's final mix to DAT.. All of these techniques were based on what you heard, as visual feedback was obviously limited, but there is a lot to be said for this approach as it connects you in a more visceral way with the music you are creating.. There is a lot to be said for working within limitations... when problems have easy "one-click" solutions, you often miss the opportunity to find a more creative and musically appealing solution
I actually grew up and lived through the 90's, computers back then were pretty limited, most PCs were anything from an old 286 to a 486 running Windows 3.11, or Windows 95, or in the late 90's they were Pentium II, Pentium III, or Pentium IV, running Windows 98 or Windows XP, there were Macs running OS7, OS 8, and OS 9, the main Daws used in the 90's were early versions of Cubase, ProTracker, and Impulse Tracker, there was also an open source Daw called Jeskola Buzz too, which was a free download, most computers in the 90's were limited in how much memory they had too, maximum would be about 2Gb of DDR Ram, 286, 386, and 486 PCs used slower ram, also graphics cards were limited too.
I usually let the tail of my kick end sit 1 semitone lower than the key of the bass, that usually accentuates the roll of the bass and makes the kick and bass just sit better when played together :)
Hey, thank you for your tutorial. I need a precision for the bass, I don't understand the step of the modulation on the level and the cutoff, can you help me please?
Hi Dash.. New subscriber here.!! You are in a topic that information is very minor.. I always liked Goa Trance, my personal favorite, compared to Psy.. ( due to more melodic stuff ) There is a long time i 'm searching about any tutorials and ideas specific to this genre and i have to say that you are one of few persons that touched this topic, so far.. I think that this will be a great video series and will give all of us a point to start.. I admire all of these melodic lines in Goa Trance that work in parallel and contribute to each other, so the result is magical and mystic.. But this is my main problem, to combine some tracks so they will work together.. I think that if you could create a video dedicated to Goa melodies and give us some basic elements ( how to create them in terms of midi notes - i think Goa use Eastern Scales ) and arrangement, it would be great!!! I watched your video number 2 about Phoscyon acid lead lines, and i have to say that this was great ( especially the tip about midi export ) and i have my 1st Goa - ish midi track.. :) Are there any other easy tips about arpegiators, techniques and other stuff we can use to create melodic stuff? Thanks again for the time you spend here and give your knowledge to us!! :D
I'm late to the show as it seems :P. To get that boomi fat bass some guys probably used subharmonic synthesizers like the dbx 120XP. It's now emulated in the brainworxx subsynth :)
Please, can you make a video about Real good time - Loud & Burn In Noise, especifically th@t leads (I think they are this) from 2:15-3:40, this is just mind blowing, if you never heard to this track, you need to
Awesome tutorial as always! Really love those kick rolls as well. I wonder if the bass continues playing during these rolls, I can't really hear. I tried it myself but when I keep the bass playing, it seriously interferes with the kick.
Thank you! Correct, I think most of the time the bass falls away during the rolls, like you say it cleans it up, atleast I noticed this with almost every example I listened to 😃
Im making my first goa trance 😊 the bass has been the thing i had to really study to try and replicate. So i decided to throw myself into the deep end and screen record the project and post on my youtube channel so id thought i take a gander at how you made Goa. I may steal some ideas dude. Thou i seem to be more neo goa at the mo then old school goa. Why its called Neo Goa is beyond me just call it Goa haha
Hi Dash, excellent tutorial once again :) I'm very new to hardware synths so please bear with me. I just a couple of questions if you don't mind. I am trying to create a classic Goa bassline with a Behringer MS-1. You added a bit of unison to the saw wave in your bass, would adding a bit of pulse width to my bass have a similar effect? Also, you removed the high frequencies with an EQ, would you still remove the really low frequencies as you normally would? Appreciate your advice. Cheers!!
Yes! It is really very difficult to find tutorials on the subject nitzho, I am still interested, but there is not much in-depth information on the subject, if you have more information it would be very helpful friend! th-cam.com/video/Urwxd7q-_wM/w-d-xo.html
Hey Dash! Thanks for the video, just one thing. It's very very rare those Goa Music using the classic psytrance bassline, they in fact, use a lot of a melody bass, but not like full on, something more "agressive". Here some examples: Doof - Double Dragons Green Nuns of the revolution - Ring of Fire I think this is esencial to a real Goa trance track, the melody agressive bass. I would like to understand more about those basses, thank you and keep up the serie ❤️
Yep sure, I did definitely mention this factor in the video but i was trying to focus on the sound rather than the progression, it's important for sure - I did put in a melody on the bass that comes after the kick rolls and mentioned that the progression is important and I will cover it in a future episode :)
i think you're overdoing it with the kick. layering kicks wasn't that big of a thing as it is now. whenever in doubt and you want to go really oldschool use a 909 ;-). often when trying to emulate / analyse my favourite oldschool goa sounds (be it basslines or leads) i start out thinking too complicated and then realise that it's just one single layer with a clever patch and engaging midi pattern.
I might be wrong but the 909 in fact uses several layers in the schematic which then get mixed, one is generating the boom and the other the click, pretty much how I’ve explained here
You never bobbed your head at all as you were demoing the track, which was a great track btw. There's clearly something very wrong with you. Please see a doctor soon.
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2022, GOA Trance is life man, thank you for keeping this school alive
I was around at that time. Let me put it into perspective: Pentium processors did not exist. To successfully write a song we combined several PC's hahaha. So you had a sampler and a 303 if you could spend the bucks. 16mb sample memory. Kick and bass were ONE channel a lot of times, you did this by sequencing envelopes in MIDI CC. It was kinda wild.
Young folks did really used only pc as I understand. But with money old second hand or even third hand synths wear used. So low pass filter was mostly only filter in goa trance. Also rack synths and pc as sequencer was very common way to make trance. Ones that didn't get TB 303 used novation bass station mk1 etc. Also with only Roland SH-101 was used to make full goa track. Thas what I have read about goa trance history.
I love how the younger generation considers the modern form of psy as 'regular' trance. :) Once upon a time there was only acid trance and then Goa was born. I'm 46, was here for it all the first time, and so glad to see the current resurgence of interest in the classic Goa style. I love both sides of the coin, but my heart will always be in Goa. Your tutorials are very well explained and easy to follow; much appreciated! Oh, and my personal taste requires a tambourine to be in the drum kit for it to be consider 'true' Goa trance. :) *runs and hides from the millennial stampede* :)
im 28 but this.
I'm with you, man. 9 years younger, but I grew up with the progression of Astral Projection and that kind of Goa - forever in my heart, too.
haha I'm 42 & I grew up in goa..
There is a magic with Goa Trance that I am so glad I was there at the beginning.
From Acid trance to Goa Trance I am vey grateful for having been part of the movement & watching it change.
Maybe we danced together in Goa partys??
Bom Shanker!
Goatrance needs to make a comeback. It was good then, it will be good now.
Check ZNA Gathering lineup
it is already making a comeback. goa trance is now more popular than ever before (if you discount the golden years 97 plus minus one year). the amount of goa releases is increasing every year since 2002 and there have been more newschool goa releases than oldschool ones for quite some time now. if you've missed it up to now you've got a treasure trove of good music to discover.
Im trying my best on it, and that too, with triplet time signatures!!! It sounds good!!!
Goa will have a second golden age coming up, and we'll be the pioneers of the new wave. It's gonna happen.
@@tru7hhimself So true man!
In Israel where I'm from, new school Goa is booming with lots of parties playing specifically Goa trance (also retro sets)
There are many new acts such as "Psykorhythm" for example, who are killing every dancefloor around the country this year (2021).
There are so many good Goa music the past years.
I highly recommend the album "Cosmic waves by Atlantis". U can find it on TH-cam. Absolutely brilliant!! 🕉️
Thanks for doing this! There are a billion tutorials for the typical psytrance bass but nothing for Goa. Would love for you to keep going with this series and do leads, arps, and so forth
Exactly what I wanted to comment! 😀
Thank Gods.... I found my Tribe.. I just realized I have been making GOA / Psy Trance all along and never had been properly introduced. Thank you for making this series and diving into the technical intricacies.
Why did I just find it now. Goa Trance was brilliant and so beautiful psychedelic. These raves are some memories, like the real Love Parade. Nobody can take them from us! I think it’s time to revive that music
GOA IS LIFE! more videos with goa pleaseee
This one sounds much better then most fullons track nowadays.
Goa baselines, and the genre itself, evolved from traditional EBM. In very early tracks to around '94 you can REALLY hear this, before the stabby/bouncy drone started to dominate.
At some point this was simplified from running 16th note EBM style basslines to the simple one note rolling that's common now.
Nice idea to come back to the roots !!! It’s bring me back to my first « free parties » (i mean not allowed parties ), in agricultural fields ten years ago 🤩 ! Thanks to listened « astral projection » and « electric universe » i embraced this music way. Sweet souvenirs ! Thank You Dash !!
Lovely! More oldschool goa stuff please :D
Man, please keep doing this series!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH !!!! DEFINITELY DIGGING THIS NEW SERIES, I WAS WISHING FOR IT!!! THANK YOUUU !!
Goa is still alive!
There are amazing new school Goa acts out there, and many specifically Goa trance parties. Look them up in your country 🕉️
If anyone would like recommendations I would be happy to give some 😊
Goatrance is what got me into producing music, please continue friend
I've only just discovered goa trance this week after being a long time trance and psytrance listener. inspired me to get back into production and try join the other wonderful people trying to bring this genre back to the main stage
Straight up you're a hero for this series
awesome loving your tutorials !!! so hard to find good cubase and trance and techno tutorials ! thank you
So so happy that u started a series about goa trance very nice we’ve been waiting for this 🙏🏻
Let’s go into it astral projection style
Hell yeah, good stuff!
Nice video man, I can imagine a life without my family or friends, but i can't imagine a life without GOA trance, (goa must live forever)
Keep it up master Glitch!
Congrats to 1 Million Views. Keep that work up😊 You really teached me many things which i totally struggled with🎶🎶
Who were the os that were doing rural dance parties in SA in the 90s.
I remember one was far out in the wilderness, fynbos, we drove for hours.
They put up all those lumo stretch sails.
So rad.
Hey Dash big thanks :)
I started producing like a month ago and the only thing that I want is to make GOA trance :D These videos help enourmously!
Im on FL studio but I got this pay to own shizzle on Sylenth and Serum.
PsyTrance IsLife
this is some proper Goa trance tutorial
OMG please tell me that you're also gonna go into oldschool leads!
Danke!
you the first ih ave paqid on youtube! just because i couldnt givce you 2 thumbs up! after the first 15 seconds of your video
Loving your tutorials man. Keen to see the rest of the series.
goa trance expert_ khhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :D thx for the videos!
Good stuff man, gonna watch every minute of this series.
That's some nice tasty sounds! Really makes me want to play some 90s racing games. ;)
interesting finding this video as I spent a lot of time working in studios making Goa back in the 90's...
It's worth noting that the limitations of the time drove us into having to be innovative and creative and the lack of any internet meant that this knowledge was highly revered and just as sought after as the gear is today..
There were a number of techniques that were used to maximise the gear limitations and the biggest one of these was the hardware sampler which was an absolute games changer for many and was the source for drums on 90% of records of the time.. even then, 909s were too expensive so most people would put the money towards an Akai S1000 or similar.
Outboard and mixers were another essential tool and were used in a far more dynamic way, rather like an instrument in itself... many of the sounds such as kicks and snares were layered up through the desk, then compressed and gated to achieve the tightness of sound and then resampled back for use in the track's final mix to DAT..
All of these techniques were based on what you heard, as visual feedback was obviously limited, but there is a lot to be said for this approach as it connects you in a more visceral way with the music you are creating..
There is a lot to be said for working within limitations... when problems have easy "one-click" solutions, you often miss the opportunity to find a more creative and musically appealing solution
you made a great track keep on
i love uuu, greetings from BRASILLLLLLLLLLLL!
I actually grew up and lived through the 90's, computers back then were pretty limited, most PCs were anything from an old 286 to a 486 running Windows 3.11, or Windows 95, or in the late 90's they were Pentium II, Pentium III, or Pentium IV, running Windows 98 or Windows XP, there were Macs running OS7, OS 8, and OS 9, the main Daws used in the 90's were early versions of Cubase, ProTracker, and Impulse Tracker, there was also an open source Daw called Jeskola Buzz too, which was a free download, most computers in the 90's were limited in how much memory they had too, maximum would be about 2Gb of DDR Ram, 286, 386, and 486 PCs used slower ram, also graphics cards were limited too.
I usually let the tail of my kick end sit 1 semitone lower than the key of the bass, that usually accentuates the roll of the bass and makes the kick and bass just sit better when played together :)
Hey, thank you for your tutorial. I need a precision for the bass, I don't understand the step of the modulation on the level and the cutoff, can you help me please?
Best tut ever! :)
Hi Dash.. New subscriber here.!!
You are in a topic that information is very minor.. I always liked Goa Trance, my personal favorite, compared to Psy.. ( due to more melodic stuff )
There is a long time i 'm searching about any tutorials and ideas specific to this genre and i have to say that you are one of few persons that touched this topic, so far..
I think that this will be a great video series and will give all of us a point to start..
I admire all of these melodic lines in Goa Trance that work in parallel and contribute to each other, so the result is magical and mystic..
But this is my main problem, to combine some tracks so they will work together..
I think that if you could create a video dedicated to Goa melodies and give us some basic elements ( how to create them in terms of midi notes - i think Goa use Eastern Scales ) and arrangement, it would be great!!!
I watched your video number 2 about Phoscyon acid lead lines, and i have to say that this was great ( especially the tip about midi export ) and i have my 1st Goa - ish midi track.. :)
Are there any other easy tips about arpegiators, techniques and other stuff we can use to create melodic stuff?
Thanks again for the time you spend here and give your knowledge to us!! :D
I'm late to the show as it seems :P.
To get that boomi fat bass some guys probably used subharmonic synthesizers like the dbx 120XP. It's now emulated in the brainworxx subsynth :)
great tutorial ! keep it up
The track is litty lit
thanks bro, as always, but u can do something about idm or glitch clean beats (like mr.bill or solar fields) ? :)
Great Stuff!
From 3:00 u start feeling the vibe ;)
Please, can you make a video about Real good time - Loud & Burn In Noise, especifically th@t leads (I think they are this) from 2:15-3:40, this is just mind blowing, if you never heard to this track, you need to
Awesome tutorial as always!
Really love those kick rolls as well. I wonder if the bass continues playing during these rolls, I can't really hear. I tried it myself but when I keep the bass playing, it seriously interferes with the kick.
Thank you! Correct, I think most of the time the bass falls away during the rolls, like you say it cleans it up, atleast I noticed this with almost every example I listened to 😃
What is the Bass Midi pattern?
And can you make a kick tutorial for oldschool psytrance with another plugin please? Like Kick2 for example?
thanx a lot for this video:)can you show us how to create goa arps-sequences?you are amazing bro:)
Im making my first goa trance 😊 the bass has been the thing i had to really study to try and replicate. So i decided to throw myself into the deep end and screen record the project and post on my youtube channel so id thought i take a gander at how you made Goa. I may steal some ideas dude. Thou i seem to be more neo goa at the mo then old school goa. Why its called Neo Goa is beyond me just call it Goa haha
Hi Dash, excellent tutorial once again :) I'm very new to hardware synths so please bear with me. I just a couple of questions if you don't mind. I am trying to create a classic Goa bassline with a Behringer MS-1. You added a bit of unison to the saw wave in your bass, would adding a bit of pulse width to my bass have a similar effect? Also, you removed the high frequencies with an EQ, would you still remove the really low frequencies as you normally would? Appreciate your advice. Cheers!!
Can you make nitzhonot leads tutorial?)
Yes! It is really very difficult to find tutorials on the subject nitzho, I am still interested, but there is not much in-depth information on the subject, if you have more information it would be very helpful friend! th-cam.com/video/Urwxd7q-_wM/w-d-xo.html
Also bass is sometimes on all 16th notes and then eq carved to fit
love it though I'd feel much more entertained if you were doing it on an atari ST !
One day in the future maybe I’ll do a full hardware throwback session 😃
@@DashGlitch omg, do it!
Is there any way to create same kick as ableton but using only synth ?
Certainly
Hey Dash! Thanks for the video, just one thing. It's very very rare those Goa Music using the classic psytrance bassline, they in fact, use a lot of a melody bass, but not like full on, something more "agressive".
Here some examples:
Doof - Double Dragons
Green Nuns of the revolution - Ring of Fire
I think this is esencial to a real Goa trance track, the melody agressive bass.
I would like to understand more about those basses, thank you and keep up the serie ❤️
Yep sure, I did definitely mention this factor in the video but i was trying to focus on the sound rather than the progression, it's important for sure - I did put in a melody on the bass that comes after the kick rolls and mentioned that the progression is important and I will cover it in a future episode :)
Oh, Sorry, It's not my official language
Thank you for your time.
Question, does your "detuning" of the saw wave in the bass patch give some stereo width to the bass?
finaly, but please also do the arpeggio part in an other tutorial
Do you know how to create synth or tune like in this video? th-cam.com/video/JqQintwJ26A/w-d-xo.html
@ 0.53 part of the track.
fuccccckkk! great question!!!! ???
Mais um inscrito
Pleez some forest tutorials
Luv the vids btw :3
I have made loads of good tracks but don't know what to do with them, God bless you all ecstasy family 😊❤😊
kool
I love uuu
where's the rest? don't tell me you went to play somewhere and forgot this??!! :D
I release 1 video per week, every Friday :) they will come in time, next week's video is already available for my Patreons ;)
@@DashGlitch lame! :D
What in the actual fuck is this lmao- why is this the first time I’ve heard of Goa trance, and I’m from fucking Panaji.
it was more popular in the 90s/early 00s, were you into electronic music that time?
i think you're overdoing it with the kick. layering kicks wasn't that big of a thing as it is now. whenever in doubt and you want to go really oldschool use a 909 ;-). often when trying to emulate / analyse my favourite oldschool goa sounds (be it basslines or leads) i start out thinking too complicated and then realise that it's just one single layer with a clever patch and engaging midi pattern.
I might be wrong but the 909 in fact uses several layers in the schematic which then get mixed, one is generating the boom and the other the click, pretty much how I’ve explained here
@@DashGlitch Correct
Interestibgly, Goa is closer to what I actually make
Actually, if we all think about it, what we see as “progressive psy” NOW, is actually Goa, under a different name
i piss on software..harware is the only way...i piss on cd ,vinyls is the only way!
You never bobbed your head at all as you were demoing the track, which was a great track btw. There's clearly something very wrong with you. Please see a doctor soon.
I find your music nice, but impossible to learn from. You never show how you start and how it is done. So I only can listen to your music.
You realize this was like the first video i ever made 🤣 try something recent?
you look too often to the left and right top ;-)