Who was Carlos Kleiber? - BBC
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- On 26 September 2009, BBC Radio 3 transmitted a unique documentary, "Who Was Carlos Kleiber?" Produced by Paul Frankl, and presented by Ivan Hewett with research by Ruth Thomson, this feature was based on interviews with four who knew Kleiber well: tenor and conductor Plácido Domingo, music administrator and Intendant Sir Peter Jonas, music journalist and critic Christine Lemke-Matvey, and conductor--pianist Charles Barber. A transcription of the program is available at www.carlos-kleiber.com/resources
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I have played under the baton of this genius, nothing holds a candle to this Star.
Lionel Alberts You lucky dog, though being held in esteem by Carlos Kleiber would not be a matter of luck! I read he was pretty picky about his players?
I do so envy you!!
The greatest Thing about Kleiber is that even if you are a total noob about classical music you are hearing that there is something completely different to other conductors.
There's Jascha Heifetz, then there's everyone else. There's Glenn Gould, then there's everyone else. There is Carlos Kleiber, then there's everyone else. No comparisons need be made.
I find this story very sad, particularly the end of Carlos Kleiber’s life. He could
have given us much more but chose not to do so and appeared a supremely
gifted, humorous but troubled soul. I find his rehearsal with the Vienna
Phil for 1992 New Years Day in the waltz Tausend Nacht und Eine, quite
wonderful as he is relaxed with the sunny smile that transmits his joy to
me and others. This is how I will remember him. Rest in Peace.
One of the greatest, if not The greatest conductor...everything he does is making love through the music, period. I had always hoped that I could sing Isolde with him, but he died before I could approach him. And I will always mourn that. Not really improvising, as Domingo says, simply completely alive, and so, moves differently each time.
It should be added that Barber has written a book, CORRESPONDING WITH CARLOS, about his 15 years with the maestro.
It's fascinating, and the first bio in English.
What is, perhaps, most remarkable about this Kleiber documentary is that the four people interviewed actually knew him.
There are gossips in the music business who have invented nonsense about Kleiber, and are believed. These four knew him personally, and for many years, and have an earned credibility. That's what's so unusual about this project.
The BBC did a GREAT job here.
They usually do -
Wonderful program...that only a BBC can really do...with funding. What we lose when we depend solely on commercial money's for our artistic lives...
Kleiber was a wonder...saw his Chicago concerts and will never forget them.
It should not be forgotten that Kleiber was a great admirer of Karajan. He used to attend his performances and even regularly visited his grave.
If Carlos had ever conducted a British military band, he would have been proclaimed King of the Kleiber Rifles.
He's the best interpreter who ever lived.
Elam Richter He danced the music Stanka was his secret weapon; she held his heart in her hands; some things need no words! I am sure she improvised to pieces he was conducting & gave him new dimensions! She gave up her dance career for him; he would have been a full time job! Something to be said for marriage partners who become greater than the sum of the whole!
@@carolvogelman8216 k
Two new films of Carlos in rehearsal have just been found. Amazing. 1992, Vienna New Years' Day Concert. They appear to derive from a television rehearsal, and can be seen at the Corresponding With Carlos website. Don't miss.
Beautiful !
Thanks a lot
My first exposure to Maestro Kleiber and I feel so gifted that he existed for all of us. Thank you so much!
Fascinating documentary-thank you for uploading.
Very grateful for this. Thank you.
Fascinating and highly informative program, thanks for uploading. Every one of his performances is indeed pure gold.
His 1st movement of Beethovens 5th with the V.P.O. on D.G. is widely regarded as the definitive version ever recorded.
+arthur Deth Just listened to his, and I must say after listening to Karajan's and his, I choose Kleiber for Beethoven.
to me ... that is the greatest piece of music ever recorded !!!
I agree the 5th is one of my favourite symphony's ..............I have listen to many..............and always return to Klieber's it simple has not been surpassed in decades
@@paulhenner8914 its KLEIBER, doofus!
What is "doofus" it not in my dictionary
Fantastic documentary, worthy of the BBC!
Благодаря за споделянето!
Fantastic man🙏⚘️
His Beethoven's 7th recording is the definitive version.
It's very extraordinary but not definitive! Listen to Furtwängler and even the excellent version of Carlos Kleiber was surpassed! No one can match with Furtwängler when it comes to Beethoven, sorry.
MusikPiratCH furtwanglers 2nd movement lasts 12 minutes, a full 50% longer than beethoven wrote it.. kleiber is the best 7th.
Sir Egbert Nobacon No, recording is definitive. How do you know how long the second movement of the 7th should be? I like Furtwängler more than Kleiber (both Erich and Carlos)! Carlos is certainly well but Furtwängler is more convincing. It sounds better even with poor recording technique! :D
William Perry Have you ever heard the version by Christian Thielemann? Some say he might be the new Karajan.
crossbike Sorry, but Thielemann for me cannot match whether with Carlos Kleiber nor Wilhelm Furtwängler. Karajan had one excellent recording of Beethoven's 9th in the late 1940ies. Karajan made too less out of his talent. The most awful thing was his Karajan sound using for all composers.
I will too. Fascinating! Every musician should hear this. Thanks to you for posting, and the BBC for the program. The comments on the program explain why Kleiber earned such acclaim, and provide insights average listeners like me would never fathom on their own, even though we all were fascinated by his performances, especially at the Vienna Philharmoniker's New Years concerts, where much of the public saw him most.
omg he's so charismatic
Wondrous...
The best conductor EVER
Nobody wants to say how insightful and meaningful these commentaries are? Well, I will!
Many thanks @tommyvichev
His preconcert panic reminds me of Glenn Gould. Same anxiety.
Placido Domingo, is right.
Kleiber’s father probably understood what a sensitive soul inhabited his son and understood how cruel the business of making music can be , which may explain his attempts to discourage Carlos’ musical career. As for why an artist of his sensitivity could not be more like Domingo as he asks himself during his conversation with the tenor? Well, why would he want a career like that? Why would anyone?
It shold not be forgotten that Karajan did say to Kleiber Thank you so much! when Kleiber goes to him to learn Elektra.
Más de 460.000.000 hablan español. Es una pena que no puedan conocer la historia de Carlos Kleiber.
NOTES TO EDITORS
In November 2010 BBC Music Magazine asked 100 leading conductors to name the maestros they admire above all others. When the votes were added up, the following top 20 emerged: BBC Music Magazine's 20 greatest conductors of all time are:
1. Carlos Kleiber (1930-2004) Austrian
2. Leonard Bernstein (1918-1990) American
3. Claudio Abbado (b1933) Italian
4. Herbert von Karajan (1908-1989) Austrian
5. Nikolaus Harnoncourt (b1929) Austrian
6. Sir Simon Rattle (b 1955) British
7. Wilhelm Furtwängler (1896-1954)
8. Arturo Toscanini (1867-1957) Italian
9. Pierre Boulez (b1925) French
10. Carlo Maria Giulini (1914-2005) Italian
11. Sir John Eliot Gardiner (b1943) British
12. Sir John Barbirolli (1899-1970) British
13. Terenc Fricsay (1914-1963) Hungarian
14. George Szell (1897-1970) Hungarian
15. Bernard Haitink (b1929) Dutch
16. Pierre Monteux (1875-1964) French
17. Yevgeny Mravinsky (1903-1988) Russian
18. Sir Colin Davis (b1927) British
19. Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) British
20. Sir Charles Mackerras (1925-2010) Austrian
Mackerras was Australian.
Suprised Toscanini is so far down the list.
@@jefolson6989 I'm not. He was tyrannical and played a lot of repertoire very fast: I don't like his Beethoven symphonies much
All that is Kleiber is good.
is there some document with the text of this interview ??
I should be very happy if somebody has a txt file of this
uniqueness all the way ...
What a pity that Kleiber had such a small repertoire and made only a tiny handful of official commercial recordings .
Robert Berger You generally look a gift horse in the mouth?
he was ill and a sorcerer and beautiful
Oh sorry Oh sorry 1 do not saw the link above.I donwloaded the text already
41:10 what's the music? it doesn't come to my mind and i'm going crazy..
Its the prelude of act 3 La Traviata
thanks!
doing so, he were Karajan ;)
While this is absolutely terrific, it would have been that much greater if Kleiber himself could explain his taste and his methods.
SatchmoSings Then he would not have been Carlos Kleiber!
These letters, when will they appear in a book?
They are in our Artistic Director's book, 'Corresponding With Carlos', published by Rowman and Littlefield. It's cheapest in paperback.
Are there any recordings of Kleiber speaking in English?
You may have the answer by now. In the rehearsal film of 1992 Carlos K
wishes Dr Prawi a Happy Birthday in English and says “Have fun”. English
was the mother tongue for Carlos. This is on 1992 New Year Concert with
VPO Tristch Trastch Polka, please excuse spelling.
um. opera?
His hero was Mahler, but nobody knows that!
" Who was Carlos Kleiber? " is a stupidest title !!!
"His was charisma beyond any human definition of it". Meaningless drivel.
Agree. That sort of language is vapid and adds nothing.
Charles Barber's commentary is so pretentious and over the top that he does the memory of the great conductor a disservice.