Probably true for many millennials, but I'm sure also that many like me didn't encounter the genre any further until years later. I think i was probably about 10 when PPG started airing, and i discovered this music through my regional rave scene 12 years later, after which it was a couple more years that i thought back and connected these dots 😅
@@sirfizz6518 i was talking about the drum breakbeat in particular. But true, I was also around that age when PPG aired. But back then i didn't even pay attention to the music. Years later when I started to learn more about music and learn terms like the famous 'Amen Break', I was like "hey this sounds like powepuff girls"😂
I happen to produce DnB, and I'd just like to point out that you've got your timeline mixed up a bit. Late 80s - Acid House utilised oldschool Drum Breaks from 70s funk records (the Lyn Collins "think" break and the Bobby Byrd "Hot Pants" break being just 2 of the mainstays). Early 1990s - Acid house turns into hardcore (e.g. the prodigy) after it made it's way over here to the UK. From there people started speeding up the hardcore records as you mentioned. However, where the discrepancy happens is the Reggae influence. Some of the British-Caribbean community take a shine to hardcore, and decide to mix the breaks of hardcore with Reggae samples. One of the most famous examples is SL2 - On a Ragga Tip which sampled multiple breaks along with Jah Screechy's "walk and skank" (released the same year). Again, this new fusion would be sped up, until this Reggae infused Hardcore became Jungle with tunes such as Rude Bwoy Monty's "Out in da streets" and Miami's flip of Buju Banton's "Champion" emerged over the next 2 years. To the end of 1994, there was an influx of gangsters infiltrating the jungle scene (family members of mine have told me stories about proper gangsters entering clubs and blowing Cr*ck smoke in people's faces), to the point that the samples became more Dancehall based rather than the more innocent Reggae tracks (singing sweet - when I see you smile is an example which can be heard in "Out in da streets" mentioned earlier. From there, Jungle started to become darker (think Renegade/Ray Keith - Terrorist) until artists like Goldie (under the alias Rufige Kru), Shy FX, DJ Monk and Remarc began to use less melodic samples, more chaotic beats, deeper and darker bass and experimental sound design. From 1994 onwards, Jungle morphed into what is now known as Techstep, which still utilised breaks, but had a much heavier emphasis on Sound design and processing, with artists such as Ed Rush and Optical, Andy C, and John B spearheading the movement. From here, Neurofunk emerged, using less breaks and samples etc. However, as DnB became darker and more technologically-focused, legends Fabio and Grooverider created a genre that took the soulful aspect of Jungle and further developed it, creating what we know as liquid DnB. Also please don't say that Dancehall MCs would make references to "the jungle" because it's actually related to a ghetto in Jamaica. See, Jamaica is split into different areas, much like Burroughs in New York. You have Spanish Town, Kingston, Riverton, May pen etc. Junglist referred to an area of Kingston known as Jungle. People used to use lyrics containing the word "Junglist" (which is the slang term used to refer to people from Jungle in Kingston) because it fit the name of the genre, which is said to have derived from the racial slur "jungle bunny" (referring to people of Afro-Caribbean heritage), as black music was referred to as (the aforementioned slur) music, which early jungle DJs and producers shortened to "Jungle", although the source for this may not be credible. As a person of mixed Caribbean heritage myself, I feel obliged to bring this to light, as the content is somewhat classed as misinformation. Sorry for the long comment. Apart from these bits of info, this is a pretty good video.
On that note, jungle morphed into tech step post 94 however, it really split into 2 sub genres with jump up being the other. Tech step morphed into neurofunk with the first track that leveraged Neuro bass with 1/16 note hi hats that really took off being “side effects” by the Kracken (aka stakka and Skynet) although it wouldn’t fully take hold as a force to be reckoned with until the monumental release of Konflicts “The Messiah”. Everyone was headed that direction but Konflict mastered it first, and Side Effects was likely an inspiration. Very under rated as I’m not sure neurofunk would exist without it. And jump up, in my opinion, basically spawned liquid funk even though they don’t really have too much in common. There’s always been a lighter side and a darker side where I always preferred the latter!
Not sure I would agree with some of that myself. Acid house 88 -89> belgian techno/rave (beltram etc) 90-91 > uk hardcore (break influenced (overlayed) but with 4/4 beat 91/92/93 > jungle tekno 92/93 (basement records type stuff still with 4/4 + break, but more techno influenced) > jungle (ragga influenced drop the 4/4, pure breaks, start of chopping) 93/94/95 > ‘intelligent’ drum and bass (jazz fusion, techno influenced, more break chopping and musicality) bukem/pfm/funky technicians/photek/source direct etc etc 95/96/97/98 > 2 step (alex reece type stuff programmed beats 96/97/98> drumfunk (digital etc) 98/99 >the rest of the shit variants like tech step, liquid and onto the even shitter variants that came after that. I would say his timeline is pretty good
I think it’s also important to note that drum and bass is engineered from the ground up to sound and feel good when heard on a big, loud sound system. Its not pop music (although it has found mainstream success at times) and can sound very sparse or even boring if played on a phone or laptop speaker. But when the the drums and sub bass are literally pummelling your chest and the rhythm takes over your body it becomes more than just music, it can be hypnotic and tribalistic.
Thanks, Jeremy! "Drum & Bass: The Movement - A D&B Documentary" is a good watch on TH-cam. Lots of interviews with the producers and DJs, tastes of different genres, discussion about how things evolved, etc.
I can’t agree with that. It skips (spends 5 minutes on) the formation of the music between 91-95 which really robs the viewer of the real story not to mention being pretty offensive to those tho built it.
I feel like you could teach a college course on electronic music if you wanted to, this is fantastic. Your enthusiasm and love for the topic is clear, which makes all us fanatics feel seen.
Woah Jeremy! That was fab and on point. I was around in the scene in the early 90s and concur with your timeline and observations. Your guide to the genres was a thing of wonderment and insight and I’m totally grateful for that!
Interesting Vid, As a Hardcore Jungle producer being there from the beginning, I never would of guessed that there would be so many people talking about the history. Big up
as someone whos been around too since a long ass time, i would say its bigger now than its ever been in america, i used to spend my summers in england growing up and everyone knew what jungle and hardcore was even in like 1995.. here in america i only think its getting known reslly now , finally discovered by the youth, the raves here in portland feel like it did in the nineties, labels like death by sheep and norm corps and dismiss yourself have really pushed it
Loved this. I was hoping to get a mention 😂. I used to be part of EZ Rollers, we had the 1st D&B hit in the UK with Walk This Land. Thanks to Lock stock and two smoking barrels. I will check out your new record 👏
That song is still one of my favs and it was really cemented when it appeared on Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Thank you for your contribution and waking the world up!
10:40 I love the whole video but this section is GOLD, i love how it has pretty much a tutorial underneath it and you're showing the theory at the same time and AAA. Good work man
A couple of YT recommendations from someone who is pretty new to Jungle / Drum & Bass history and production, but has recently been learning a lot very quickly: - Breakbeat Deconstruction: From hip hop to drum & bass and beyond - a talk by Dr. Jason Hockman at the 2016 Loop summit on Ableton's channel - A Beginner's Guide to Jungle Breakbeats - Tim Cant's channel, where he actually demonstrates slicing up breakbeats in Ableton - Goldie's April the 1st set on HÖR's channel. D&B has never been a genre I've focused on, but I ran across that at random, and knowing Goldie is a /huge/ name in UK D&B, decided to step outside my comfort zone and see if I liked it, then listened entranced for the whole set. I'm guessing that's why the others showed up in my feed (of course this showed up in my feed because I'm subscribed, because Jeremy is absolutely bloody lovely).
Oh no, liquid is what I thought it was. I thought I had seen 'liquid' used to refer to that sort of pop, neon, square, saturated, "obvious" (that's judgemental) sound like Sub Focus circa 2012-ish. I was misinformed. I'm almost 50, I'm getting used to not knowing what's going on. Thanks for this video!
@@timcosgrove Ehhhh, kind of. That's still that sort of that video gamey style sound. Easiest way to explain it, is that liquid DnB is just chill DnB, kind of a similar vibe to Jungle at times, but with the DnB structure. The SubFocus comparison isn't too far off, but it can differentiate. Here's some tracks to check out to get an idea: ALB - Breathing Space Seathasky - Feel Again Dawn Wall - Devil's Night Logistics - Lotus Flower
Cheers, Jeremy! I was a London teenager in the early 90s, so this was a nice trip down memory lane! For some more good breakbeat/hardcore stuff check out ACEN'S early stuff (Trip To The Moon, Close Your Eyes, etc.) and for some GREAT ragga-jungle, I love love love Soundmurderer's mix "Wired For Sound."
I'm so drooling over the M8. Tim has been on the scene for so long (always loved his Trash80 tracks posted to tracker community sites back in the day when I was messing around in Buzz a lot) and I'm super impressed that he put this thing out. Really cool to hear what you're doing with the M8, Jeremy.
I'm late to the party but this style of video from you is absolutely incredible! I'd love to see more long form genre history videos like this, maybe on IDM and Chicago House Music as two good contenders. Great work Jeremy!
the drum and bass genre has really outlived some of it's electronic music contemporaries, my first drum and bass experience was from an mtv compilation cd that featured goldie's inner city life, i've been hooked ever since.
Such a nice overview. I remember my friend DJ Soji (RIP, he taught me how to beat match on vinyl) handing me a silver cassette and saying something like "hey, check out this new music" I'm racking my brain as to whether he said jungle or drum and bass, but it was the very early days.
It’s probably worth mentioning Frankie Bones and Mr C were pivotal key figures on the origins of “Hardcore”. Mr C introduced Frankie and the NYC breakbeat sounds to the rave culture during the late 80s, fusing acid house with Frankie’s breakbeat sampling signature sounds and Mr C’s eclectic DJing style
The roots of this music is so important, and something people underappreciate because the brilliance of Jungle and Drum and Bass was it's ability to take the musical melting pot of the UK and turn it into a product, that was most of the time, greater than then sum of it's parts, which were already pretty amazing. Where I grew in London dance, hardcore, darkcore, jungle, and drum and bass were king. I lived between the record label Reinforced Records in one direction, The Production House studio in another, Chanel One Sound System in Notting Hill, Metalheads/Synthetic towards Camden, and they were all mixing together the tastes and influences of diverse groups of people that lived in those places. That is why it is almost impossible to pin down genres, and turning points. There was almost too much diversity, and change to make sense of it all. It's also why I feel dance music is so bad these days. There is a lot of regurgitation rather than adaptation going on. People learn the name of a genre, and recreate a fixed formula people have imagined for it. Which is weird because at the time they weren't producing to formulas that were fixed, but continuously evolving the sounds of music. Music now shouldn't aim to recreate imagined versions of past music, but should really be trying to build upon them, and adapt them. The real lesson to be learned from the evolution of Jungle to Jump-Up would be not to narrow the scope of your music, or limit it to simplified characteristics, but to do what was originally done, and add to the complexity, and diversity of music. As for terminology, I can say for certain as someone who lived through that era, spoke that dialect of English, and who still has the records and media like flyers and magazines lying around that most words used in this video are synonyms. I have records that literally reference the same track as Darkcore, Jungle Techno, and Drum and Bass. The distinctions at the time were mostly drawn on who you were talking to, which words were more common at the time, or what was written on the marketing. No one really paid attention to those labels until the very late 90s when the music had basically died creatively. So, I disagree when people say a jungle track has to have this, and a drum and bass track has to have that. Those terms were not talked about really at all until much later. I think the issue comes from the fact that word that may be common at a certain time becomes associated with tracks popular at that time. You get breaks on tracks referred to as drum and bass, synthesized drums on Jungle. Plus, a lot of things that don't follow any set definition that I hear now. I challenge you to put a label on a track like A Guy Called Gerald - Forever Changing. th-cam.com/video/gSVb9OeoN8Q/w-d-xo.html
A great source, to be sure. Just know that if you like UK Garage, Dubstep or any Dutch genre, you are Not going to like what Ishkur has to say about them.
Every few months I look up “history of” vids of dubstep, D&B, house to see if anyone’s got any fresh insights. Thanks for posting this dawg it was good!
Got a lot into jungle, breakcore, glitchcore, etc. a few months ago because of video game nostalgia from when I was a kid. Breakbeats, but mostly the amem break, always gives this such cool nostalgic feeling. Thank you for the video, loved every single bit of history you shared with us 🙏
feels like you gotta mention that back then we only had like, twenty pixels for our pictures, total, and sometimes we had to share them uphill both ways in the snow.
I don't think you can talk about jump-up without mentioning Aphrodite, Micky Finn and/or Urban Takeover. For some hip-hop fans of the 90s like me, their music was the fuel that drove the transition to drum n bass. Cheesy? Hell yes! But I still rock their remixes (Luniz, Rincing Quince, No Diggity, Fugees, etc.). I accidentally downloaded The Takeover Bid CD while looking for unreleased hip hop albums in the days before Napster and never looked back. Tech-step quickly took it's place in my mind but there is no denying that jump-up and Urban Takeover had a big influence on drum n bass.
This was absolutely insane overview to one of my favorite music! Thank you so much! More of this content please. It was very interesting to listen. And your album is great too!
It makes me so happy to see you add Kill Sound, Before Sound Kills You to the thumbnail. Such a wild bed of chaos lol especially “total recovery is possible”
This video was amazing. Watched it on a cross country train and as soon as I get home I want to watch it all again so I can open a tab for every new thing I want to look up (which is all of them)
Loved this video! This audiotorial deep dive of the genres helps me learn so much more about the music i love and one day want to create! Cant wait till your next one 😊
Great vid. I was heavy into the rave scene in the 90's here in Toronto, and to this day I still produce raggajungle, DnB, halftime, now fusing it with moderns stuff that is not even a genre yet. Still have a briefcase cassette library with all the tapes I collected back then, man this was nostalgic af thanks again.
@@chrishendricks4613 Yep I know them personally actually :) Freaky Flow was one of the first to incorporate turntablism/scratching/etc into his jungle sets, always amazing.
The shot of the three of you dancing and the bit with you in a window you're dragging around the desktop vaguely gave me Celery Man vibes and I'm here for it.
Thank you! I love Ishkur's but I can only stare at it and the opinions therein for so long. I look forward to more of this kind of video because this was great!
Listening to your album. Gotta say I’m very impressed. Coming from a 20 year background loving dnb. Makes me want to try a tracker again. Kudos Jeremy, I’m very picky about music too skip 95% of time but not on this release. Great work!
Oh wait that’s tech step! Okay time to do some digging. This video was unhinged in all the best ways. Scratches the surface in a way that makes me want to dig more.
the 2 minute bit you talked about your own album almost made me yeet the video out thinking it was clickbait. glad I didn't! This video's a goldmine of information!
Thanks a lot!! I've been listening to rock most of my life, but now I'm getting more and more interested in everything tronica, but I lack a lot of perspective and this kind of videos help me a lot to understand what I'm listening to.
What a great dive. Definitely going to go through the website to see all the subgenres in depth. Have been on the whole PS1/PS2 videogame (wipeout in particular too) train lately and its been such a fun time, with a lot of new niche producers popping up. Gonna explore the album on my M8 and can't wait for more videos like this
Honestly, I was in the same boat as you. I was completely oblivious to what Techstep and Darkstep was. (As well as Crossbreed and Skullstep, but i don't think that's considered Drum and Bass at that point.) Then I did a little digging and discovered some tracks thanks to Noisia and their Noisia Radio podcast. Because of them, I've been listening to these Drum and Bass subgenres for over several years now. For those reading this, I highly recommend listening to Phace, Current Value, Redpill, Black Sun Empire as well as Noisia's entire discography. Trust me, you won't regret it.
bro... your passion in this video is absolutely driving ... wicked... as a junglist who was there before we had a name (generally was just rave/tekno/hardcore (an lets not forget garage before UK garage dominated the name as did Psy Trance come to dominate the word Trance) .... that either felt funky, dark, uplifting or simply mesmerising ... and we were ALL there for it... united) ... i was already subscribed but THIS vid is one of your finest in my opinion... many thanks... :) x
Gott Dang... I haven't even thought about sliced sampler beats in a long time, drudging up some real nostalgia there! Also, have I seen that barn before... I swear I have seen that barn somewhere, idk. Informative video, and really brought me back.
I am so blessed to have been there for the beginnings of the infant stages of the NYC and L.A. rave scenes. Acid House, Garage, Hardcore, Jungle, Trip Hop...the first time I heard that I heard Charly, I couldn't believe my ears...after that, all I wanted was 'ardcore breaks..at the expense of all other the great bands of the 90s.
Super informative and highly entertaining, thank you so much Jeremy! Can't wait to dive into some of the subgenres now that I understand them more. Before I do that, I'm gonna jam to your new album while I drive.
Great video. Here's how I remember it as a 52 year old first generation raver. The term Jungle was coined in reference to the percussive nature of the music as opposed to traditional House music which was just four to the floor. It was the addition of breakbeats to house that was responsible for the jungle tag. The crossover track was Reel 2 Reel's 'We Are I.E' which came out in 1991 and is considered by many as the first ever Jungle track. The term jungle was also popular in the beginning because it put a positive spin on a word that used to have racist connotations here in the UK back in the 70's and 80's when black people's music was often referred to as 'jungle bunny' music. When Jungle Techno came along it turned the term on its head and it became a positive term but it wasn't all roses for long. By late 92 early 93 the scene would begin to attract a lot of gangsters due in part to the violent nature of some of the samples used in some Jungle tracks. Sounds of gunfire and references to murder were not uncommon in hardcore jungle tracks. It got to a point when venues refused to host any events with Jungle in the title because it often attracted a moody crowd. The term Drum n Bass was coined to try and disassociate the scene from the hardcore ragga influenced stuff that was attracting the wrong crowd and giving the scene a bad reputation. The music also moved away from the ragga influences and became more melodic as demonstrated in the video.
Love this video! Thank you for covering my all time favorite genre! I've always been into drum and bass, but the turning point was when I discovered the channel Ambiance on here and I listened to the peshay studio set back in 2021. There are also some things I wished you covered, like the influence dubplates and vinyl had on jungle and drum and bass releases in the 90s, but I understand why it was glossed over.
Man I really enjoyed this kind of content! I’m an everyday listener of both dnb and jungle so it was awesome to better understand them! Really looking forward to other genres of electronic music! You rock my man
This little insight to you makes sense why I like your music so much. I have always been drawn to D&B music. I just really like the sound and various styles. I do kind of call it all Drum and Bass. Enjoying the new album, but I absolutely love Yourself. Really I am enjoying most of the singles and little EPs you have been putting out. Thanks!
When you said Happy Hardcore you unlocked a deep memory lol I don't know much about electronic music, really only mostly from your videos. But I have really been inspired by your stuff and dipping my toe in! Getting familiar with VCV rack and how modular works, and now I really want to make a 90s inspired ambient jungle track using your recipe. Hope you make more videos like this!
When I think of liquid, my mind immediately goes to all the early 2010s minecraft building compilations on youtube with Feint and Phaeleh going in the background
I'll never forget the first time I heard The Nine at a rave, I thought a fucking airliner was coming through the wall. Can still see the expression on everybody's faces just looking at each other going 'WTF is happening' 😅Mad that it's nearly 25 years ago. Glad you've rediscovered dnb, everybody needs a bit of it in their lives
Also if you're deep into the Dirtywave folks you've gotta check out some of the old Trash80 (Icarus) and Sabrepulse (Exile) chipbreak stuff! Iirc they were a lot of the principal folks behind making LSDJ and all of that stuff still slaps!
Great video! It just so happens that ive been getting really into Dnb and the subgenres like Breakcore and even trying to make some myself recently so its such a nice treat to be able to learn about the history of the genre
In Toronto we kind of called Warhead the end of jungle. Jungle was considered part of drum and bass for a period like in the early 90s it was hardcore but in the late 90s drum and bass meant techstep. Jungle was mostly ragga but it was kind of like anything built with breaks and Techstep was like anything where the beat was kick rest snare rest rest kick snare. Warhead was like the nail in the coffin for jungle, that song was so big (hearing it many times a night) it just became the sound of drum and bass and then a couple of years later there was like jump up and such but by then dnb and jungle were split.
Thank you for this master piece, i have always loved DNB for as long as i can remember starting with the prodigy and discovering more and more every day after that!
Thank you for doing research. I often search for Jungle/DNB documentaries and I'm glad I found your video. Your video is such a treat and a food for the mind. I too love the genre that's why most of my art has dnb soundtracks in it. Long live raggajungle, drumfunk, and my very very very favorite; the rollers. Thank you again for making this content.
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My earliest exposure to breakbeat was the Powerpuff Girls intro theme song
Not me losing it off the Cinnamon Toast Crunch and PPG themesong
Memory unlocked
Probably true for many millennials, but I'm sure also that many like me didn't encounter the genre any further until years later. I think i was probably about 10 when PPG started airing, and i discovered this music through my regional rave scene 12 years later, after which it was a couple more years that i thought back and connected these dots 😅
@@sirfizz6518 i was talking about the drum breakbeat in particular. But true, I was also around that age when PPG aired. But back then i didn't even pay attention to the music. Years later when I started to learn more about music and learn terms like the famous 'Amen Break', I was like "hey this sounds like powepuff girls"😂
It slaps
I happen to produce DnB, and I'd just like to point out that you've got your timeline mixed up a bit.
Late 80s - Acid House utilised oldschool Drum Breaks from 70s funk records (the Lyn Collins "think" break and the Bobby Byrd "Hot Pants" break being just 2 of the mainstays).
Early 1990s - Acid house turns into hardcore (e.g. the prodigy) after it made it's way over here to the UK. From there people started speeding up the hardcore records as you mentioned. However, where the discrepancy happens is the Reggae influence. Some of the British-Caribbean community take a shine to hardcore, and decide to mix the breaks of hardcore with Reggae samples. One of the most famous examples is SL2 - On a Ragga Tip which sampled multiple breaks along with Jah Screechy's "walk and skank" (released the same year). Again, this new fusion would be sped up, until this Reggae infused Hardcore became Jungle with tunes such as Rude Bwoy Monty's "Out in da streets" and Miami's flip of Buju Banton's "Champion" emerged over the next 2 years. To the end of 1994, there was an influx of gangsters infiltrating the jungle scene (family members of mine have told me stories about proper gangsters entering clubs and blowing Cr*ck smoke in people's faces), to the point that the samples became more Dancehall based rather than the more innocent Reggae tracks (singing sweet - when I see you smile is an example which can be heard in "Out in da streets" mentioned earlier. From there, Jungle started to become darker (think Renegade/Ray Keith - Terrorist) until artists like Goldie (under the alias Rufige Kru), Shy FX, DJ Monk and Remarc began to use less melodic samples, more chaotic beats, deeper and darker bass and experimental sound design.
From 1994 onwards, Jungle morphed into what is now known as Techstep, which still utilised breaks, but had a much heavier emphasis on Sound design and processing, with artists such as Ed Rush and Optical, Andy C, and John B spearheading the movement. From here, Neurofunk emerged, using less breaks and samples etc. However, as DnB became darker and more technologically-focused, legends Fabio and Grooverider created a genre that took the soulful aspect of Jungle and further developed it, creating what we know as liquid DnB.
Also please don't say that Dancehall MCs would make references to "the jungle" because it's actually related to a ghetto in Jamaica. See, Jamaica is split into different areas, much like Burroughs in New York. You have Spanish Town, Kingston, Riverton, May pen etc. Junglist referred to an area of Kingston known as Jungle. People used to use lyrics containing the word "Junglist" (which is the slang term used to refer to people from Jungle in Kingston) because it fit the name of the genre, which is said to have derived from the racial slur "jungle bunny" (referring to people of Afro-Caribbean heritage), as black music was referred to as (the aforementioned slur) music, which early jungle DJs and producers shortened to "Jungle", although the source for this may not be credible.
As a person of mixed Caribbean heritage myself, I feel obliged to bring this to light, as the content is somewhat classed as misinformation.
Sorry for the long comment. Apart from these bits of info, this is a pretty good video.
On that note, jungle morphed into tech step post 94 however, it really split into 2 sub genres with jump up being the other. Tech step morphed into neurofunk with the first track that leveraged Neuro bass with 1/16 note hi hats that really took off being “side effects” by the Kracken (aka stakka and Skynet) although it wouldn’t fully take hold as a force to be reckoned with until the monumental release of Konflicts “The Messiah”. Everyone was headed that direction but Konflict mastered it first, and Side Effects was likely an inspiration. Very under rated as I’m not sure neurofunk would exist without it. And jump up, in my opinion, basically spawned liquid funk even though they don’t really have too much in common. There’s always been a lighter side and a darker side where I always preferred the latter!
Not sure I would agree with some of that myself. Acid house 88 -89> belgian techno/rave (beltram etc) 90-91 > uk hardcore (break influenced (overlayed) but with 4/4 beat 91/92/93 > jungle tekno 92/93 (basement records type stuff still with 4/4 + break, but more techno influenced) > jungle (ragga influenced drop the 4/4, pure breaks, start of chopping) 93/94/95 > ‘intelligent’ drum and bass (jazz fusion, techno influenced, more break chopping and musicality) bukem/pfm/funky technicians/photek/source direct etc etc 95/96/97/98 > 2 step (alex reece type stuff programmed beats 96/97/98> drumfunk (digital etc) 98/99 >the rest of the shit variants like tech step, liquid and onto the even shitter variants that came after that. I would say his timeline is pretty good
I think it’s also important to note that drum and bass is engineered from the ground up to sound and feel good when heard on a big, loud sound system. Its not pop music (although it has found mainstream success at times) and can sound very sparse or even boring if played on a phone or laptop speaker. But when the the drums and sub bass are literally pummelling your chest and the rhythm takes over your body it becomes more than just music, it can be hypnotic and tribalistic.
Absolutely
Exactly!
Thanks, Jeremy! "Drum & Bass: The Movement - A D&B Documentary" is a good watch on TH-cam. Lots of interviews with the producers and DJs, tastes of different genres, discussion about how things evolved, etc.
It is a fantastic documentary. Well worth the watch, at least once.
Hell Yeah. Watch that 11 times
I can’t agree with that. It skips (spends 5 minutes on) the formation of the music between 91-95 which really robs the viewer of the real story not to mention being pretty offensive to those tho built it.
@@dt5142 I appreciate the disagreement. I'd watch anything you suggest is better.
I feel like you could teach a college course on electronic music if you wanted to, this is fantastic. Your enthusiasm and love for the topic is clear, which makes all us fanatics feel seen.
I would love to
Woah Jeremy! That was fab and on point. I was around in the scene in the early 90s and concur with your timeline and observations. Your guide to the genres was a thing of wonderment and insight and I’m totally grateful for that!
Btw if u see this jeremy
Happy 420.000 sub count
Gon light one up for u
Interesting Vid, As a Hardcore Jungle producer being there from the beginning, I never would of guessed that there would be so many people talking about the history. Big up
"as a LEGENDARY Hardcore Jungle producer" - fixed that for you B! ;)
Bizzy you a living legend!
@@Positive_Tea Thanks , much appreciated
as someone whos been around too since a long ass time, i would say its bigger now than its ever been in america, i used to spend my summers in england growing up and everyone knew what jungle and hardcore was even in like 1995.. here in america i only think its getting known reslly now , finally discovered by the youth, the raves here in portland feel like it did in the nineties, labels like death by sheep and norm corps and dismiss yourself have really pushed it
It’s super interesting being an old guy now seeing where the sounds came from when I was just a kid at the club
Loved this. I was hoping to get a mention 😂. I used to be part of EZ Rollers, we had the 1st D&B hit in the UK with Walk This Land. Thanks to Lock stock and two smoking barrels. I will check out your new record 👏
Oh shit! My bad for the lack of mention. I had so much to go over but I fucking dig some ez rollers
DON'T TRY TO TEST UNLESS YOU COME PROPER
Loved Rolled Into 1. That was such a fantastic tune 👍
yeh and not forgetting The Plastic Clothes Mechanics and fkn voodoo magic mon 😉- don
That song is still one of my favs and it was really cemented when it appeared on Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Thank you for your contribution and waking the world up!
10:40 I love the whole video but this section is GOLD, i love how it has pretty much a tutorial underneath it and you're showing the theory at the same time and AAA.
Good work man
:3
A couple of YT recommendations from someone who is pretty new to Jungle / Drum & Bass history and production, but has recently been learning a lot very quickly:
- Breakbeat Deconstruction: From hip hop to drum & bass and beyond - a talk by Dr. Jason Hockman at the 2016 Loop summit on Ableton's channel
- A Beginner's Guide to Jungle Breakbeats - Tim Cant's channel, where he actually demonstrates slicing up breakbeats in Ableton
- Goldie's April the 1st set on HÖR's channel. D&B has never been a genre I've focused on, but I ran across that at random, and knowing Goldie is a /huge/ name in UK D&B, decided to step outside my comfort zone and see if I liked it, then listened entranced for the whole set. I'm guessing that's why the others showed up in my feed (of course this showed up in my feed because I'm subscribed, because Jeremy is absolutely bloody lovely).
Have not watched yet but my Jungle/DnB knowledge is mostly 1994-2003 so I'm looking forward to understanding what the kids call 'liquid' now.
Oh no, liquid is what I thought it was. I thought I had seen 'liquid' used to refer to that sort of pop, neon, square, saturated, "obvious" (that's judgemental) sound like Sub Focus circa 2012-ish.
I was misinformed. I'm almost 50, I'm getting used to not knowing what's going on.
Thanks for this video!
@@timcosgrove Ehhhh, kind of. That's still that sort of that video gamey style sound. Easiest way to explain it, is that liquid DnB is just chill DnB, kind of a similar vibe to Jungle at times, but with the DnB structure. The SubFocus comparison isn't too far off, but it can differentiate. Here's some tracks to check out to get an idea:
ALB - Breathing Space
Seathasky - Feel Again
Dawn Wall - Devil's Night
Logistics - Lotus Flower
Cheers, Jeremy! I was a London teenager in the early 90s, so this was a nice trip down memory lane! For some more good breakbeat/hardcore stuff check out ACEN'S early stuff (Trip To The Moon, Close Your Eyes, etc.) and for some GREAT ragga-jungle, I love love love Soundmurderer's mix "Wired For Sound."
Also @audiopilz will love this!
Thanks for releasing the bundles! Even if most of it is samples, it's a joy to dissect your arrangements.
I already learned so many new techniques for abusing samples on the M8 from these bundles
This was amazing! I’d love more of these genre walkthroughs! I laughed, I cried, I learned something, and I have a dozen new artists to check out
I'm so drooling over the M8. Tim has been on the scene for so long (always loved his Trash80 tracks posted to tracker community sites back in the day when I was messing around in Buzz a lot) and I'm super impressed that he put this thing out. Really cool to hear what you're doing with the M8, Jeremy.
GET ONE, it's incredible.
It is worth it! Believe me!!!
For me it was Photek, Scorn, Meat Beat Manifesto, and other early/mid 90's releases that I've long since forgotten about.
Don't forget Atari Teenage Riot!
@@Positive_Tea YASS!!! I liked some of the Alec Empire solo stuff as well.
For Us it was Our Childhoods, Nottinghill Carnival
I'm late to the party but this style of video from you is absolutely incredible! I'd love to see more long form genre history videos like this, maybe on IDM and Chicago House Music as two good contenders. Great work Jeremy!
Techno is next and then I want to do ambient
This video is really high quality despite the limited views.
Yeah :( thank you!
The PS1 got me into d'n'b, the WipeOut 2097 soundtrack absolutely rearranged my head
Such a fantastic game soundtrack.
the drum and bass genre has really outlived some of it's electronic music contemporaries, my first drum and bass experience was from an mtv compilation cd that featured goldie's inner city life, i've been hooked ever since.
Absolutely love the concept of making one’s own rules for jungle V DNB. Agree much so.
Such a nice overview. I remember my friend DJ Soji (RIP, he taught me how to beat match on vinyl) handing me a silver cassette and saying something like "hey, check out this new music" I'm racking my brain as to whether he said jungle or drum and bass, but it was the very early days.
Your last several videos have just been so good! Whatever is driving you on these days, keep at it 😍
I love hearing people talking about their obsession and how deep they can get into their interests.
Awesome work!
It’s probably worth mentioning Frankie Bones and Mr C were pivotal key figures on the origins of “Hardcore”. Mr C introduced Frankie and the NYC breakbeat sounds to the rave culture during the late 80s, fusing acid house with Frankie’s breakbeat sampling signature sounds and Mr C’s eclectic DJing style
The same Mr C who joined The Shamen?
@@sirfizz6518 yes. Mr C used to run a banging drum and bass night at his club The End back in the day also. Check out his drum and bass productions
The roots of this music is so important, and something people underappreciate because the brilliance of Jungle and Drum and Bass was it's ability to take the musical melting pot of the UK and turn it into a product, that was most of the time, greater than then sum of it's parts, which were already pretty amazing.
Where I grew in London dance, hardcore, darkcore, jungle, and drum and bass were king. I lived between the record label Reinforced Records in one direction, The Production House studio in another, Chanel One Sound System in Notting Hill, Metalheads/Synthetic towards Camden, and they were all mixing together the tastes and influences of diverse groups of people that lived in those places. That is why it is almost impossible to pin down genres, and turning points. There was almost too much diversity, and change to make sense of it all. It's also why I feel dance music is so bad these days. There is a lot of regurgitation rather than adaptation going on. People learn the name of a genre, and recreate a fixed formula people have imagined for it. Which is weird because at the time they weren't producing to formulas that were fixed, but continuously evolving the sounds of music.
Music now shouldn't aim to recreate imagined versions of past music, but should really be trying to build upon them, and adapt them. The real lesson to be learned from the evolution of Jungle to Jump-Up would be not to narrow the scope of your music, or limit it to simplified characteristics, but to do what was originally done, and add to the complexity, and diversity of music.
As for terminology, I can say for certain as someone who lived through that era, spoke that dialect of English, and who still has the records and media like flyers and magazines lying around that most words used in this video are synonyms. I have records that literally reference the same track as Darkcore, Jungle Techno, and Drum and Bass. The distinctions at the time were mostly drawn on who you were talking to, which words were more common at the time, or what was written on the marketing. No one really paid attention to those labels until the very late 90s when the music had basically died creatively. So, I disagree when people say a jungle track has to have this, and a drum and bass track has to have that. Those terms were not talked about really at all until much later. I think the issue comes from the fact that word that may be common at a certain time becomes associated with tracks popular at that time. You get breaks on tracks referred to as drum and bass, synthesized drums on Jungle. Plus, a lot of things that don't follow any set definition that I hear now.
I challenge you to put a label on a track like A Guy Called Gerald - Forever Changing. th-cam.com/video/gSVb9OeoN8Q/w-d-xo.html
This is awesome, Jeremy! I've been messing with break beats a lot lately and this is much appreciated!
Props for the Ishkur guide. Really cool project they made.
Cool and impressive project, but very biased.
Ish compared Sigma to Avril Lavigne for his brand of "Dancefloor" D&B, which is an insult.
Thank you for the refresher of some fine sounds. Ishkar is an underrated resource - I appreciate the reminder to go there too.
A great source, to be sure. Just know that if you like UK Garage, Dubstep or any Dutch genre, you are Not going to like what Ishkur has to say about them.
Every few months I look up “history of” vids of dubstep, D&B, house to see if anyone’s got any fresh insights. Thanks for posting this dawg it was good!
Jeremy you are amazing and I did not expect this from you. Love everything you make. It doesn't matter what it is, your community just likes you.
Got a lot into jungle, breakcore, glitchcore, etc. a few months ago because of video game nostalgia from when I was a kid. Breakbeats, but mostly the amem break, always gives this such cool nostalgic feeling. Thank you for the video, loved every single bit of history you shared with us 🙏
OMG Roni Size!! Brown Paper changed my life!
For real
I'm a hardcore/hard house head. Slowly learning jungle production. This video is the perfect education video thank you
This video has strong Dunkey vibes and I’m here for it.
Thank you so much for introducing us to this awesome music genre's history and for sharing ishkur's guide!
feels like you gotta mention that back then we only had like, twenty pixels for our pictures, total, and sometimes we had to share them uphill both ways in the snow.
That glorious 240p early .avi codec vibe that kids today only know as "shit my reception is going"
I don't think you can talk about jump-up without mentioning Aphrodite, Micky Finn and/or Urban Takeover. For some hip-hop fans of the 90s like me, their music was the fuel that drove the transition to drum n bass. Cheesy? Hell yes! But I still rock their remixes (Luniz, Rincing Quince, No Diggity, Fugees, etc.). I accidentally downloaded The Takeover Bid CD while looking for unreleased hip hop albums in the days before Napster and never looked back. Tech-step quickly took it's place in my mind but there is no denying that jump-up and Urban Takeover had a big influence on drum n bass.
Album is an instant buy! Thanks so much for your research and continuing to educate us all.
This was absolutely insane overview to one of my favorite music! Thank you so much! More of this content please. It was very interesting to listen. And your album is great too!
It makes me so happy to see you add Kill Sound, Before Sound Kills You to the thumbnail. Such a wild bed of chaos lol especially “total recovery is possible”
This video was amazing. Watched it on a cross country train and as soon as I get home I want to watch it all again so I can open a tab for every new thing I want to look up (which is all of them)
Sometimes I can't believe music this good exists!!! Thanks for a sweet overview of the genre!
Loved this video! This audiotorial deep dive of the genres helps me learn so much more about the music i love and one day want to create! Cant wait till your next one 😊
Great vid. I was heavy into the rave scene in the 90's here in Toronto, and to this day I still produce raggajungle, DnB, halftime, now fusing it with moderns stuff that is not even a genre yet. Still have a briefcase cassette library with all the tapes I collected back then, man this was nostalgic af thanks again.
Heard many times that Toronto had a great DnB scene back in the '90s... always hoped to make it up there to check it but sadly never did...
The Tdot...u ever see freaky flow..mc flipside. Sht is DOPE.
@@chrishendricks4613 Yep I know them personally actually :) Freaky Flow was one of the first to incorporate turntablism/scratching/etc into his jungle sets, always amazing.
@@NORBZMUSIC Nice!
I always believed Halftime and Jump-up were the same thing, the former an evolution of the latter. I dig it, either way.
The shot of the three of you dancing and the bit with you in a window you're dragging around the desktop vaguely gave me Celery Man vibes and I'm here for it.
Thanks man! I dove into drum n bass while studying it on the drums and i never managed to make this full tracking of the origins.. thanks!
Thanks for making a video about the genre that started it all for me. And thank you for making us old school DnB heads feel less alone lol
Thank you! I love Ishkur's but I can only stare at it and the opinions therein for so long. I look forward to more of this kind of video because this was great!
Just listened on Apple Music -- everything you touch turns into musical gold, thanks Jeremy
Listening to your album. Gotta say I’m very impressed. Coming from a 20 year background loving dnb. Makes me want to try a tracker again. Kudos Jeremy, I’m very picky about music too skip 95% of time but not on this release. Great work!
Damn thanks!!
My body wasn’t ready for rhino jump up
It's called a Reese bass
Oh wait that’s tech step! Okay time to do some digging. This video was unhinged in all the best ways. Scratches the surface in a way that makes me want to dig more.
the 2 minute bit you talked about your own album almost made me yeet the video out thinking it was clickbait. glad I didn't! This video's a goldmine of information!
Neurofunk & jump up are my absolute jam.
DnB ♥︎
New Forms was my first dnb album aswell :) Love the history.
I just learned a TON. Thank you for putting this together for us!
Thanks a lot!! I've been listening to rock most of my life, but now I'm getting more and more interested in everything tronica, but I lack a lot of perspective and this kind of videos help me a lot to understand what I'm listening to.
What a great dive. Definitely going to go through the website to see all the subgenres in depth. Have been on the whole PS1/PS2 videogame (wipeout in particular too) train lately and its been such a fun time, with a lot of new niche producers popping up. Gonna explore the album on my M8 and can't wait for more videos like this
What a great work you did here. So fun and interesting to watch. Thanks ❤
Really enjoyed this one, a trip down memory lane, a pieces of the puzzle put together and some new bits I'd missed as well. Excellent.
Thanks Ben!!!!
Honestly, I was in the same boat as you. I was completely oblivious to what Techstep and Darkstep was. (As well as Crossbreed and Skullstep, but i don't think that's considered Drum and Bass at that point.) Then I did a little digging and discovered some tracks thanks to Noisia and their Noisia Radio podcast. Because of them, I've been listening to these Drum and Bass subgenres for over several years now.
For those reading this, I highly recommend listening to Phace, Current Value, Redpill, Black Sun Empire as well as Noisia's entire discography. Trust me, you won't regret it.
bro... your passion in this video is absolutely driving ... wicked... as a junglist who was there before we had a name (generally was just rave/tekno/hardcore (an lets not forget garage before UK garage dominated the name as did Psy Trance come to dominate the word Trance) .... that either felt funky, dark, uplifting or simply mesmerising ... and we were ALL there for it... united) ... i was already subscribed but THIS vid is one of your finest in my opinion... many thanks... :) x
I love how you edited this, this is how I knew I was adhd.
Ah Ishkur’s guide, that takes me back. It’s changed a little since then, but it’s missing a whole bunch now. Especially vapourwave and Pilotredsun.
Thank you for introducing me to Ishkur's guide, I have not laughed this hard at a site in a while!
Gott Dang... I haven't even thought about sliced sampler beats in a long time, drudging up some real nostalgia there! Also, have I seen that barn before... I swear I have seen that barn somewhere, idk. Informative video, and really brought me back.
Inject this content directly into my soul thank you
I am so blessed to have been there for the beginnings of the infant stages of the NYC and L.A. rave scenes. Acid House, Garage, Hardcore, Jungle, Trip Hop...the first time I heard that I heard Charly, I couldn't believe my ears...after that, all I wanted was 'ardcore breaks..at the expense of all other the great bands of the 90s.
Super informative and highly entertaining, thank you so much Jeremy! Can't wait to dive into some of the subgenres now that I understand them more. Before I do that, I'm gonna jam to your new album while I drive.
Great video. Here's how I remember it as a 52 year old first generation raver.
The term Jungle was coined in reference to the percussive nature of the music as opposed to traditional House music which was just four to the floor. It was the addition of breakbeats to house that was responsible for the jungle tag.
The crossover track was Reel 2 Reel's 'We Are I.E' which came out in 1991 and is considered by many as the first ever Jungle track.
The term jungle was also popular in the beginning because it put a positive spin on a word that used to have racist connotations here in the UK back in the 70's and 80's when black people's music was often referred to as 'jungle bunny' music. When Jungle Techno came along it turned the term on its head and it became a positive term but it wasn't all roses for long.
By late 92 early 93 the scene would begin to attract a lot of gangsters due in part to the violent nature of some of the samples used in some Jungle tracks. Sounds of gunfire and references to murder were not uncommon in hardcore jungle tracks. It got to a point when venues refused to host any events with Jungle in the title because it often attracted a moody crowd.
The term Drum n Bass was coined to try and disassociate the scene from the hardcore ragga influenced stuff that was attracting the wrong crowd and giving the scene a bad reputation.
The music also moved away from the ragga influences and became more melodic as demonstrated in the video.
Love this video! Thank you for covering my all time favorite genre! I've always been into drum and bass, but the turning point was when I discovered the channel Ambiance on here and I listened to the peshay studio set back in 2021. There are also some things I wished you covered, like the influence dubplates and vinyl had on jungle and drum and bass releases in the 90s, but I understand why it was glossed over.
I love the old 90’s style. Seems impossible to find it in searches tho
TH-cam is not great for oldschool recommends, but if you search for tracks you know then you can find channels with uploads from that era
If you're looking for early 90s stuff then search for Breakbeat Hardcore playlists.
17:44 If you know, you know. (Hint, its the barn)
Also, Fantastic Video Red
It's more of a stable
@@RedMeansRecording This reply made my week!
That hit me like a freight train ngl
this video deserves more views. the real ones will find it.
4:46 late 80’s back in time 😮UK Rave music in 1993 I was using a Emax emu plus to play drum beats samples faster than their normal bpm
Man I really enjoyed this kind of content! I’m an everyday listener of both dnb and jungle so it was awesome to better understand them! Really looking forward to other genres of electronic music! You rock my man
This little insight to you makes sense why I like your music so much. I have always been drawn to D&B music. I just really like the sound and various styles. I do kind of call it all Drum and Bass.
Enjoying the new album, but I absolutely love Yourself. Really I am enjoying most of the singles and little EPs you have been putting out. Thanks!
Hi Jeremy, I love the new format of your vids, you are always moving things forward, thank you. just bought your album from Bandcamp. awesome stuff.
I rediscovered dnb recently, and started trying to make it on my modular, it's tricky! Thanks for this Jeremy.
When you said Happy Hardcore you unlocked a deep memory lol I don't know much about electronic music, really only mostly from your videos. But I have really been inspired by your stuff and dipping my toe in! Getting familiar with VCV rack and how modular works, and now I really want to make a 90s inspired ambient jungle track using your recipe. Hope you make more videos like this!
When I think of liquid, my mind immediately goes to all the early 2010s minecraft building compilations on youtube with Feint and Phaeleh going in the background
I'll never forget the first time I heard The Nine at a rave, I thought a fucking airliner was coming through the wall. Can still see the expression on everybody's faces just looking at each other going 'WTF is happening' 😅Mad that it's nearly 25 years ago. Glad you've rediscovered dnb, everybody needs a bit of it in their lives
Also if you're deep into the Dirtywave folks you've gotta check out some of the old Trash80 (Icarus) and Sabrepulse (Exile) chipbreak stuff! Iirc they were a lot of the principal folks behind making LSDJ and all of that stuff still slaps!
Great video! It just so happens that ive been getting really into Dnb and the subgenres like Breakcore and even trying to make some myself recently so its such a nice treat to be able to learn about the history of the genre
My favorite music TH-camr about my favorite music genre, thanks 🤝
Desperate for more meaningful conversations about electronic music history. Thank you.
Drum & Bass is one of my favorite music genres too.😃❤️
two minutes into this video and I just gotta say love your editing style and humor
In Toronto we kind of called Warhead the end of jungle. Jungle was considered part of drum and bass for a period like in the early 90s it was hardcore but in the late 90s drum and bass meant techstep. Jungle was mostly ragga but it was kind of like anything built with breaks and Techstep was like anything where the beat was kick rest snare rest rest kick snare. Warhead was like the nail in the coffin for jungle, that song was so big (hearing it many times a night) it just became the sound of drum and bass and then a couple of years later there was like jump up and such but by then dnb and jungle were split.
Thank you for this master piece, i have always loved DNB for as long as i can remember starting with the prodigy and discovering more and more every day after that!
Excellent vid on DnB. I make the music so it's been a huge part of my life. It's rare to see explorations of the genre through an American lense.
This is was a really educational video. Please keep making more of them.
I love this video!!! Very excited for more videos exploring genres or other aspects of musical history in this style :D
Thank you for doing research. I often search for Jungle/DNB documentaries and I'm glad I found your video. Your video is such a treat and a food for the mind. I too love the genre that's why most of my art has dnb soundtracks in it. Long live raggajungle, drumfunk, and my very very very favorite; the rollers. Thank you again for making this content.
When I see outro cat I am overwhelmed with a joy that I can only express by clicking that like button.❤
You are onto a new and, I have to say, quite a fun new way of making videos! Support!
Please do more vids like this! Ishkurs guide is awesome but it’s also kind of a nightmare to navigate, so this was very helpful 😎
I found your album yesterday while researching the m8 and I really like it.
Awesome video! I took a similar journey. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
How do you always put out the the perfect videos right as I’m getting into new genres!!!