From Jungle to Jump-Up: A History of Drum and Bass

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  • @afiefzaki6265
    @afiefzaki6265 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    My earliest exposure to breakbeat was the Powerpuff Girls intro theme song

    • @koalemos1679
      @koalemos1679 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not me losing it off the Cinnamon Toast Crunch and PPG themesong

    • @hakeemadam955
      @hakeemadam955 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Memory unlocked

    • @sirfizz6518
      @sirfizz6518 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably true for many millennials, but I'm sure also that many like me didn't encounter the genre any further until years later. I think i was probably about 10 when PPG started airing, and i discovered this music through my regional rave scene 12 years later, after which it was a couple more years that i thought back and connected these dots 😅

    • @afiefzaki6265
      @afiefzaki6265 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sirfizz6518 i was talking about the drum breakbeat in particular. But true, I was also around that age when PPG aired. But back then i didn't even pay attention to the music. Years later when I started to learn more about music and learn terms like the famous 'Amen Break', I was like "hey this sounds like powepuff girls"😂

    • @HakainoMegami
      @HakainoMegami ปีที่แล้ว

      It slaps

  • @TheBizzyBScience
    @TheBizzyBScience ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Interesting Vid, As a Hardcore Jungle producer being there from the beginning, I never would of guessed that there would be so many people talking about the history. Big up

    • @robm9339
      @robm9339 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "as a LEGENDARY Hardcore Jungle producer" - fixed that for you B! ;)

    • @Positive_Tea
      @Positive_Tea ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bizzy you a living legend!

    • @TheBizzyBScience
      @TheBizzyBScience ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Positive_Tea Thanks , much appreciated

    • @Dsowers777
      @Dsowers777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      as someone whos been around too since a long ass time, i would say its bigger now than its ever been in america, i used to spend my summers in england growing up and everyone knew what jungle and hardcore was even in like 1995.. here in america i only think its getting known reslly now , finally discovered by the youth, the raves here in portland feel like it did in the nineties, labels like death by sheep and norm corps and dismiss yourself have really pushed it

    • @BagofHoldingHTX
      @BagofHoldingHTX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s super interesting being an old guy now seeing where the sounds came from when I was just a kid at the club

  • @kidsonicofficial
    @kidsonicofficial 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    I happen to produce DnB, and I'd just like to point out that you've got your timeline mixed up a bit.
    Late 80s - Acid House utilised oldschool Drum Breaks from 70s funk records (the Lyn Collins "think" break and the Bobby Byrd "Hot Pants" break being just 2 of the mainstays).
    Early 1990s - Acid house turns into hardcore (e.g. the prodigy) after it made it's way over here to the UK. From there people started speeding up the hardcore records as you mentioned. However, where the discrepancy happens is the Reggae influence. Some of the British-Caribbean community take a shine to hardcore, and decide to mix the breaks of hardcore with Reggae samples. One of the most famous examples is SL2 - On a Ragga Tip which sampled multiple breaks along with Jah Screechy's "walk and skank" (released the same year). Again, this new fusion would be sped up, until this Reggae infused Hardcore became Jungle with tunes such as Rude Bwoy Monty's "Out in da streets" and Miami's flip of Buju Banton's "Champion" emerged over the next 2 years. To the end of 1994, there was an influx of gangsters infiltrating the jungle scene (family members of mine have told me stories about proper gangsters entering clubs and blowing Cr*ck smoke in people's faces), to the point that the samples became more Dancehall based rather than the more innocent Reggae tracks (singing sweet - when I see you smile is an example which can be heard in "Out in da streets" mentioned earlier. From there, Jungle started to become darker (think Renegade/Ray Keith - Terrorist) until artists like Goldie (under the alias Rufige Kru), Shy FX, DJ Monk and Remarc began to use less melodic samples, more chaotic beats, deeper and darker bass and experimental sound design.
    From 1994 onwards, Jungle morphed into what is now known as Techstep, which still utilised breaks, but had a much heavier emphasis on Sound design and processing, with artists such as Ed Rush and Optical, Andy C, and John B spearheading the movement. From here, Neurofunk emerged, using less breaks and samples etc. However, as DnB became darker and more technologically-focused, legends Fabio and Grooverider created a genre that took the soulful aspect of Jungle and further developed it, creating what we know as liquid DnB.
    Also please don't say that Dancehall MCs would make references to "the jungle" because it's actually related to a ghetto in Jamaica. See, Jamaica is split into different areas, much like Burroughs in New York. You have Spanish Town, Kingston, Riverton, May pen etc. Junglist referred to an area of Kingston known as Jungle. People used to use lyrics containing the word "Junglist" (which is the slang term used to refer to people from Jungle in Kingston) because it fit the name of the genre, which is said to have derived from the racial slur "jungle bunny" (referring to people of Afro-Caribbean heritage), as black music was referred to as (the aforementioned slur) music, which early jungle DJs and producers shortened to "Jungle", although the source for this may not be credible.
    As a person of mixed Caribbean heritage myself, I feel obliged to bring this to light, as the content is somewhat classed as misinformation.
    Sorry for the long comment. Apart from these bits of info, this is a pretty good video.

    • @JeffPetaja
      @JeffPetaja 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      On that note, jungle morphed into tech step post 94 however, it really split into 2 sub genres with jump up being the other. Tech step morphed into neurofunk with the first track that leveraged Neuro bass with 1/16 note hi hats that really took off being “side effects” by the Kracken (aka stakka and Skynet) although it wouldn’t fully take hold as a force to be reckoned with until the monumental release of Konflicts “The Messiah”. Everyone was headed that direction but Konflict mastered it first, and Side Effects was likely an inspiration. Very under rated as I’m not sure neurofunk would exist without it. And jump up, in my opinion, basically spawned liquid funk even though they don’t really have too much in common. There’s always been a lighter side and a darker side where I always preferred the latter!

  • @jamesscullion3034
    @jamesscullion3034 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I feel like you could teach a college course on electronic music if you wanted to, this is fantastic. Your enthusiasm and love for the topic is clear, which makes all us fanatics feel seen.

  • @JeffBlaine
    @JeffBlaine ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Thanks, Jeremy! "Drum & Bass: The Movement - A D&B Documentary" is a good watch on TH-cam. Lots of interviews with the producers and DJs, tastes of different genres, discussion about how things evolved, etc.

    • @jamesbarels469
      @jamesbarels469 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a fantastic documentary. Well worth the watch, at least once.

    • @mateuszizydorek3701
      @mateuszizydorek3701 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hell Yeah. Watch that 11 times

  • @raisontheroof
    @raisontheroof ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Loved this. I was hoping to get a mention 😂. I used to be part of EZ Rollers, we had the 1st D&B hit in the UK with Walk This Land. Thanks to Lock stock and two smoking barrels. I will check out your new record 👏

    • @RedMeansRecording
      @RedMeansRecording  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh shit! My bad for the lack of mention. I had so much to go over but I fucking dig some ez rollers

    • @pkpckls
      @pkpckls ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DON'T TRY TO TEST UNLESS YOU COME PROPER

    • @tbaproductions123
      @tbaproductions123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Loved Rolled Into 1. That was such a fantastic tune 👍

    • @tetnology
      @tetnology 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeh and not forgetting The Plastic Clothes Mechanics and fkn voodoo magic mon 😉- don

    • @davidtopoleski5935
      @davidtopoleski5935 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That song is still one of my favs and it was really cemented when it appeared on Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Thank you for your contribution and waking the world up!

  • @GazWilliams
    @GazWilliams ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Woah Jeremy! That was fab and on point. I was around in the scene in the early 90s and concur with your timeline and observations. Your guide to the genres was a thing of wonderment and insight and I’m totally grateful for that!

    • @360boost9
      @360boost9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Btw if u see this jeremy
      Happy 420.000 sub count
      Gon light one up for u

  • @alexwild1435
    @alexwild1435 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think it’s also important to note that drum and bass is engineered from the ground up to sound and feel good when heard on a big, loud sound system. Its not pop music (although it has found mainstream success at times) and can sound very sparse or even boring if played on a phone or laptop speaker. But when the the drums and sub bass are literally pummelling your chest and the rhythm takes over your body it becomes more than just music, it can be hypnotic and tribalistic.

  • @bryangrunauer
    @bryangrunauer ปีที่แล้ว +22

    10:40 I love the whole video but this section is GOLD, i love how it has pretty much a tutorial underneath it and you're showing the theory at the same time and AAA.
    Good work man

  • @MilesAwayOfficial
    @MilesAwayOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I'm late to the party but this style of video from you is absolutely incredible! I'd love to see more long form genre history videos like this, maybe on IDM and Chicago House Music as two good contenders. Great work Jeremy!

    • @RedMeansRecording
      @RedMeansRecording  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Techno is next and then I want to do ambient

  • @NORBZMUSIC
    @NORBZMUSIC ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great vid. I was heavy into the rave scene in the 90's here in Toronto, and to this day I still produce raggajungle, DnB, halftime, now fusing it with moderns stuff that is not even a genre yet. Still have a briefcase cassette library with all the tapes I collected back then, man this was nostalgic af thanks again.

    • @NoMe-Arts
      @NoMe-Arts ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heard many times that Toronto had a great DnB scene back in the '90s... always hoped to make it up there to check it but sadly never did...

    • @chrishendricks4613
      @chrishendricks4613 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Tdot...u ever see freaky flow..mc flipside. Sht is DOPE.

    • @NORBZMUSIC
      @NORBZMUSIC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chrishendricks4613 Yep I know them personally actually :) Freaky Flow was one of the first to incorporate turntablism/scratching/etc into his jungle sets, always amazing.

    • @chrishendricks4613
      @chrishendricks4613 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NORBZMUSIC Nice!

    • @optiquemusic6204
      @optiquemusic6204 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always believed Halftime and Jump-up were the same thing, the former an evolution of the latter. I dig it, either way.

  • @RastaLlama
    @RastaLlama หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how you edited this, this is how I knew I was adhd.

  • @wda_digital
    @wda_digital 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I Love Drum and Bass, I don't really know much about it but im going to make a documentary on the HISTORY of it. Im hooked

  • @matthewsmith1629
    @matthewsmith1629 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Growing up in London drum and bass, jungle and two step garage is a rite of passage. I think you covered the different aspects of the genre really well and particularly enjoyed the humour. Cheers Jeremy.

  • @timcosgrove
    @timcosgrove ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Have not watched yet but my Jungle/DnB knowledge is mostly 1994-2003 so I'm looking forward to understanding what the kids call 'liquid' now.

    • @timcosgrove
      @timcosgrove ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh no, liquid is what I thought it was. I thought I had seen 'liquid' used to refer to that sort of pop, neon, square, saturated, "obvious" (that's judgemental) sound like Sub Focus circa 2012-ish.
      I was misinformed. I'm almost 50, I'm getting used to not knowing what's going on.
      Thanks for this video!

    • @NuudleEXE
      @NuudleEXE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timcosgrove Ehhhh, kind of. That's still that sort of that video gamey style sound. Easiest way to explain it, is that liquid DnB is just chill DnB, kind of a similar vibe to Jungle at times, but with the DnB structure. The SubFocus comparison isn't too far off, but it can differentiate. Here's some tracks to check out to get an idea:
      ALB - Breathing Space
      Seathasky - Feel Again
      Dawn Wall - Devil's Night
      Logistics - Lotus Flower

  • @poplaysgames6540
    @poplaysgames6540 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A couple of YT recommendations from someone who is pretty new to Jungle / Drum & Bass history and production, but has recently been learning a lot very quickly:
    - Breakbeat Deconstruction: From hip hop to drum & bass and beyond - a talk by Dr. Jason Hockman at the 2016 Loop summit on Ableton's channel
    - A Beginner's Guide to Jungle Breakbeats - Tim Cant's channel, where he actually demonstrates slicing up breakbeats in Ableton
    - Goldie's April the 1st set on HÖR's channel. D&B has never been a genre I've focused on, but I ran across that at random, and knowing Goldie is a /huge/ name in UK D&B, decided to step outside my comfort zone and see if I liked it, then listened entranced for the whole set. I'm guessing that's why the others showed up in my feed (of course this showed up in my feed because I'm subscribed, because Jeremy is absolutely bloody lovely).

  • @jimmac
    @jimmac ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thanks for releasing the bundles! Even if most of it is samples, it's a joy to dissect your arrangements.

    • @SimonWollwage
      @SimonWollwage ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I already learned so many new techniques for abusing samples on the M8 from these bundles

  • @jaguarvssnake
    @jaguarvssnake ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Cheers, Jeremy! I was a London teenager in the early 90s, so this was a nice trip down memory lane! For some more good breakbeat/hardcore stuff check out ACEN'S early stuff (Trip To The Moon, Close Your Eyes, etc.) and for some GREAT ragga-jungle, I love love love Soundmurderer's mix "Wired For Sound."

    • @jaguarvssnake
      @jaguarvssnake ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also @audiopilz will love this!

  • @intuitive_understanding
    @intuitive_understanding ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was amazing! I’d love more of these genre walkthroughs! I laughed, I cried, I learned something, and I have a dozen new artists to check out

  • @wp6007
    @wp6007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video is really high quality despite the limited views.

  • @lineplanevolume
    @lineplanevolume ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm so drooling over the M8. Tim has been on the scene for so long (always loved his Trash80 tracks posted to tracker community sites back in the day when I was messing around in Buzz a lot) and I'm super impressed that he put this thing out. Really cool to hear what you're doing with the M8, Jeremy.

    • @solmare_
      @solmare_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GET ONE, it's incredible.

    • @cepheid4288
      @cepheid4288 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is worth it! Believe me!!!

  • @neilomac
    @neilomac ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video has strong Dunkey vibes and I’m here for it.

  • @kalmarnagyandras
    @kalmarnagyandras ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The PS1 got me into d'n'b, the WipeOut 2097 soundtrack absolutely rearranged my head

    • @lineplanevolume
      @lineplanevolume ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Such a fantastic game soundtrack.

  • @christophervincent77
    @christophervincent77 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For me it was Photek, Scorn, Meat Beat Manifesto, and other early/mid 90's releases that I've long since forgotten about.

    • @Positive_Tea
      @Positive_Tea ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget Atari Teenage Riot!

    • @christophervincent77
      @christophervincent77 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Positive_Tea YASS!!! I liked some of the Alec Empire solo stuff as well.

  • @g-dcomplex1609
    @g-dcomplex1609 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the drum and bass genre has really outlived some of it's electronic music contemporaries, my first drum and bass experience was from an mtv compilation cd that featured goldie's inner city life, i've been hooked ever since.

  • @SteveEngledow
    @SteveEngledow ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your last several videos have just been so good! Whatever is driving you on these days, keep at it 😍

  • @collindoucet2893
    @collindoucet2893 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Props for the Ishkur guide. Really cool project they made.

    • @optiquemusic6204
      @optiquemusic6204 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool and impressive project, but very biased.
      Ish compared Sigma to Avril Lavigne for his brand of "Dancefloor" D&B, which is an insult.

  • @Matt-Hazel
    @Matt-Hazel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    17:44 If you know, you know. (Hint, its the barn)
    Also, Fantastic Video Red

    • @RedMeansRecording
      @RedMeansRecording  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's more of a stable

    • @Matt-Hazel
      @Matt-Hazel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RedMeansRecording This reply made my week!

    • @algorithmae
      @algorithmae 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That hit me like a freight train ngl

  • @tnightwolf
    @tnightwolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From Portugal here. How much do i like Drum n Bass (and i do think that Jungle and Dnb at this point is almost the same)? YES!

  • @dirkvoltaar
    @dirkvoltaar ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video Jeremy! As an old dude 😂 it’s amazing to see the resurgence of Jungle / D&B.

  • @soysos.tuffsound
    @soysos.tuffsound ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a nice overview. I remember my friend DJ Soji (RIP, he taught me how to beat match on vinyl) handing me a silver cassette and saying something like "hey, check out this new music" I'm racking my brain as to whether he said jungle or drum and bass, but it was the very early days.

  • @Artersa
    @Artersa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely love the concept of making one’s own rules for jungle V DNB. Agree much so.

  • @DionDeGennaro
    @DionDeGennaro ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My body wasn’t ready for rhino jump up

    • @RedMeansRecording
      @RedMeansRecording  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's called a Reese bass

    • @DionDeGennaro
      @DionDeGennaro ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh wait that’s tech step! Okay time to do some digging. This video was unhinged in all the best ways. Scratches the surface in a way that makes me want to dig more.

  • @TheTux
    @TheTux ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video. Here's how I remember it as a 52 year old first generation raver.
    The term Jungle was coined in reference to the percussive nature of the music as opposed to traditional House music which was just four to the floor. It was the addition of breakbeats to house that was responsible for the jungle tag.
    The crossover track was Reel 2 Reel's 'We Are I.E' which came out in 1991 and is considered by many as the first ever Jungle track.
    The term jungle was also popular in the beginning because it put a positive spin on a word that used to have racist connotations here in the UK back in the 70's and 80's when black people's music was often referred to as 'jungle bunny' music. When Jungle Techno came along it turned the term on its head and it became a positive term but it wasn't all roses for long.
    By late 92 early 93 the scene would begin to attract a lot of gangsters due in part to the violent nature of some of the samples used in some Jungle tracks. Sounds of gunfire and references to murder were not uncommon in hardcore jungle tracks. It got to a point when venues refused to host any events with Jungle in the title because it often attracted a moody crowd.
    The term Drum n Bass was coined to try and disassociate the scene from the hardcore ragga influenced stuff that was attracting the wrong crowd and giving the scene a bad reputation.
    The music also moved away from the ragga influences and became more melodic as demonstrated in the video.

  • @squidseq
    @squidseq ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for making these videos. I was revisiting some albums recently and came to the thought that I have no idea where a lot of the musical elements came from, and searching didn't really give me anything conclusive. This fills in the gaps so much, and gives me a deeper appreciation than just "it sounds good". Also, the video overlay that lines up with the sound examples is an awesome thing I wish more videos did! Thoroughly enjoyed this one.

  • @keso.mp3
    @keso.mp3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love hearing people talking about their obsession and how deep they can get into their interests.
    Awesome work!

  • @_fora
    @_fora ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s probably worth mentioning Frankie Bones and Mr C were pivotal key figures on the origins of “Hardcore”. Mr C introduced Frankie and the NYC breakbeat sounds to the rave culture during the late 80s, fusing acid house with Frankie’s breakbeat sampling signature sounds and Mr C’s eclectic DJing style

    • @sirfizz6518
      @sirfizz6518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The same Mr C who joined The Shamen?

    • @_fora
      @_fora ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sirfizz6518 yes. Mr C used to run a banging drum and bass night at his club The End back in the day also. Check out his drum and bass productions

  • @joevargo922
    @joevargo922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Listening to your album. Gotta say I’m very impressed. Coming from a 20 year background loving dnb. Makes me want to try a tracker again. Kudos Jeremy, I’m very picky about music too skip 95% of time but not on this release. Great work!

  • @mcolville
    @mcolville ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG Roni Size!! Brown Paper changed my life!

  • @Metrosoda
    @Metrosoda ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for talking about this. I got exposed to the music thanks to videogames in the late 90s, but I was never fully aware of the roots of it beyond Jamaican influence and jungle.
    I honestly thought you didn't care for the genre, but then your Hollow Knight track came out and it was just awesome, still listen to it regularly.

  • @drumnbassaddictt
    @drumnbassaddictt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Neurofunk & jump up are my absolute jam.
    DnB ♥︎

  • @Agrav64
    @Agrav64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite music TH-camr about my favorite music genre, thanks 🤝

  • @Fritztafer
    @Fritztafer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this video deserves more views. the real ones will find it.

  • @arismakesmusic1698
    @arismakesmusic1698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for making a video about the genre that started it all for me. And thank you for making us old school DnB heads feel less alone lol

  • @hi-fihumanoid8696
    @hi-fihumanoid8696 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is awesome, Jeremy! I've been messing with break beats a lot lately and this is much appreciated!

  • @ednasdiscomachine6049
    @ednasdiscomachine6049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neurofunk! I'm all over this. Never heard of it... see you on the other side.

  • @ES-qm5hr
    @ES-qm5hr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The roots of this music is so important, and something people underappreciate because the brilliance of Jungle and Drum and Bass was it's ability to take the musical melting pot of the UK and turn it into a product, that was most of the time, greater than then sum of it's parts, which were already pretty amazing.
    Where I grew in London dance, hardcore, darkcore, jungle, and drum and bass were king. I lived between the record label Reinforced Records in one direction, The Production House studio in another, Chanel One Sound System in Notting Hill, Metalheads/Synthetic towards Camden, and they were all mixing together the tastes and influences of diverse groups of people that lived in those places. That is why it is almost impossible to pin down genres, and turning points. There was almost too much diversity, and change to make sense of it all. It's also why I feel dance music is so bad these days. There is a lot of regurgitation rather than adaptation going on. People learn the name of a genre, and recreate a fixed formula people have imagined for it. Which is weird because at the time they weren't producing to formulas that were fixed, but continuously evolving the sounds of music.
    Music now shouldn't aim to recreate imagined versions of past music, but should really be trying to build upon them, and adapt them. The real lesson to be learned from the evolution of Jungle to Jump-Up would be not to narrow the scope of your music, or limit it to simplified characteristics, but to do what was originally done, and add to the complexity, and diversity of music.
    As for terminology, I can say for certain as someone who lived through that era, spoke that dialect of English, and who still has the records and media like flyers and magazines lying around that most words used in this video are synonyms. I have records that literally reference the same track as Darkcore, Jungle Techno, and Drum and Bass. The distinctions at the time were mostly drawn on who you were talking to, which words were more common at the time, or what was written on the marketing. No one really paid attention to those labels until the very late 90s when the music had basically died creatively. So, I disagree when people say a jungle track has to have this, and a drum and bass track has to have that. Those terms were not talked about really at all until much later. I think the issue comes from the fact that word that may be common at a certain time becomes associated with tracks popular at that time. You get breaks on tracks referred to as drum and bass, synthesized drums on Jungle. Plus, a lot of things that don't follow any set definition that I hear now.
    I challenge you to put a label on a track like A Guy Called Gerald - Forever Changing. th-cam.com/video/gSVb9OeoN8Q/w-d-xo.html

  • @ChrisMills-AmbientSpace
    @ChrisMills-AmbientSpace ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the refresher of some fine sounds. Ishkar is an underrated resource - I appreciate the reminder to go there too.

    • @optiquemusic6204
      @optiquemusic6204 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A great source, to be sure. Just know that if you like UK Garage, Dubstep or any Dutch genre, you are Not going to like what Ishkur has to say about them.

  • @tylerbaker1292
    @tylerbaker1292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I see outro cat I am overwhelmed with a joy that I can only express by clicking that like button.❤

  • @EZBOT_
    @EZBOT_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome video, humor + history + music. This is all I need ❤

  • @darthcheeseburger
    @darthcheeseburger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is cool as hell, man. I've been a huge Jungle/DNB head for 25 years and never knew some of these things. Thanks for all your work on this!

  • @geoff7894
    @geoff7894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every few months I look up “history of” vids of dubstep, D&B, house to see if anyone’s got any fresh insights. Thanks for posting this dawg it was good!

  • @mp3style
    @mp3style ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've done some extensive research on jungle over the years and for a 20 minute video covering not just jungle but all of its successors, this is probably the best introductory youtube explanation of it i've seen so far. when you talked about acknowledging the history behind the stuff contemporary culture associates with psx games i gave a smirk and nod. so many videos on art history in general seem to have minimal research and opinion poised as fact and end up feeling ignorant and harmful. you did your homework, if i was a teacher I'd give you like a 97%.

    • @RedMeansRecording
      @RedMeansRecording  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ❤️🦀❤️

    • @mp3style
      @mp3style ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RedMeansRecording if you haven't yet, try reading "it's a London thing" by Caspar Melville. it gets really in depth about the socioeconomic and cultural events that led up to jungle, with a heavy emphasis on Jamaican music throughout London. I never thought I'd be so interested in 20th century UK immigration policy

    • @RedMeansRecording
      @RedMeansRecording  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mp3style oh badass thanks

  • @tma78
    @tma78 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    darkcore and hardcore is what got me into electronic music when i was in grade 9 (1992) after that gabba, trance, drum n bass, breaks, uk garage, dubstep, grime and still listen to it all today.

  • @ena303
    @ena303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great jungle/dnb knowledge for a septic tank. 👌🏻✌🏻

  • @chrishendricks4613
    @chrishendricks4613 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative video good sir. I learned alot and Im an oldskool Jungle head who thought he knew everything about the genre.. I was wrong..lol Cheers

  • @theneonpact9496
    @theneonpact9496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeremy you are amazing and I did not expect this from you. Love everything you make. It doesn't matter what it is, your community just likes you.

  • @sauce_aux
    @sauce_aux ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It makes me so happy to see you add Kill Sound, Before Sound Kills You to the thumbnail. Such a wild bed of chaos lol especially “total recovery is possible”

  • @LittleMissDeeDee
    @LittleMissDeeDee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My love for Drum and Bass and Jungle started in the womb. It's all my dad would ever listen to when we were in the car, and I'm sure that was the case when he was driving my pregnant mother around. Drum and Bass/Jungle gives me an energy no other genre of music can provide. I've been brought to tears by the electricity I feel when hard hitting bass drops and the repetitive drumming intensifies. It's like an out of body experience.

  • @foodstampz
    @foodstampz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I happened to invent techno hardcore breakbeat jungle breakore in the early 60's , just letting people finally know !

  • @westoncox5983
    @westoncox5983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm gonna need a whole curriculum of the history of electronic music genres in this exact format by Monday, okay? Love this kind of video!

  • @asyourlipslounge
    @asyourlipslounge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On point, just searched for this a couple days ago on YT, and here you are.

  • @strangnet
    @strangnet ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, in essence, me ordering the m8 made Jeremy’s trip to Berlin possible. Awesome!

  • @traviedoodle
    @traviedoodle ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sometimes I can't believe music this good exists!!! Thanks for a sweet overview of the genre!

  • @insomnike
    @insomnike ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was amazing. Watched it on a cross country train and as soon as I get home I want to watch it all again so I can open a tab for every new thing I want to look up (which is all of them)

  • @TrotShuffle
    @TrotShuffle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, I listen to a lot of music but I love DNB so much and I'm a bit of an outsider to that scene as well. It's the most versatile genre to me where it feels natural for any style or mood to be at. Even more orchestral works from guys like Keeno works well! Not too long ago, it's the genre that got me back into music production (thanks Stranjah for piquing my interest again)!
    My favorite producer by far, even beyond DNB, is Calibre. He's such an inspiration, I'm not sure if any artist at all has done what he's done with his Shelflife albums. Those are just collections of stuff he's made and never released for the past 20 years and counting. I'm not talking about non-digital releases either, just straight up he never released them period. He's probably got thousands more that he hasn't ever shown to anybody (not even his closest friends) and I imagine they are of the same quality and vibe he's managed to create over the years. Crazy to think about but some of those songs are as old as I am, if not older.
    And that's not even getting into how many remixes he's made while all that's going down. Interesting fun fact, nobody's ever been able to do an official remix of a Calibre tune. Partly because nobody dares to even remix them.
    From what I remember from an interview, DJ Fabio said he wanted some songs from Calibre for the "Musique Concrete" album. But, Calibre went overboard and wouldn't stop making and sending songs, at one point he made and sent like 14 songs within a week or something insane like that. It got so overwhelming for Fabio that he actually asked him to stop sending songs so he can go through what he already had to prepare for release.
    And with the Mistical/Soul:R stuff, he would make something really quick, then Marcus Intalex would go in for some creative adjustments and arrangement, and then ST Files would do most of the engineering side of things. Those two could just grab a cup of tea and come back after like 10 minutes and the core idea of a few songs were already finished.
    He doesn't just make DNB either. He makes a lot of stuff including jazz, ambient, whatever he wants and nobody hates him for doing different things. That's super difficult for any artist it seems when they want to do something different under the same name. Even Pendulum got lots of flack for their shift between their older techsteppy stuff and their more mainstream works that they're now well known for. Meanwhile, Calibre can go from his usual style of DNB directly to some dubstep, ambient jazz, even a simple piano piece in a single album and people give him the thumbs up no matter what.
    He's also very clear about listening to and discovering every style and genre of music out there (both old and new) rather than be elitist over what is better than another. I think that's a great mindset. After all, it'd be very ironic to be closed-minded about genres like funk, soul, rock, swing, blues, and dub/reggae when you like DNB. Since, y'know... those are most of the backbone of DNB in the first place. Well, not just DNB but you get the picture.
    I also just finished listening to "Heartsing". That's awesome, they're all like a mix between Logistics, Pola & Bryson, and Lenzman. Enjoyed "We Come Alive" the most but all of them I enjoyed so much!

  • @moonboogien8908
    @moonboogien8908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dieselboy - dungeon master's guide; best DnB mix ♥

  • @douglaswaterson7107
    @douglaswaterson7107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trifecta achieved. Fab video. Fab album. Fab pants.

  • @Dickie.D.Dickens
    @Dickie.D.Dickens 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nfs3 hydrus 606
    Ssx3 wobble
    Great video!

  • @user-yv7ub7bf1e
    @user-yv7ub7bf1e ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got a lot into jungle, breakcore, glitchcore, etc. a few months ago because of video game nostalgia from when I was a kid. Breakbeats, but mostly the amem break, always gives this such cool nostalgic feeling. Thank you for the video, loved every single bit of history you shared with us 🙏

  • @forrestpatterson6053
    @forrestpatterson6053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been waiting for THIS EXACT MOMENT

  • @joecaple4552
    @joecaple4552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an English person, it fills me with joy that this music has made it so far around the world. This country sucks now and has sucked in the past for so so many reasons (I won’t go into it,
    I’m sure your’re all aware of that thing called the British empire 🤮)
    Anyway, immigration and the colliding of cultures is what makes this place amazing to me, and any other normal brained non bigoted Brit. And the perfect storm of all those cultures colliding and just dance music culture and innovation of dance music in general here over the years is one of the few things that always makes me feel some pride for this place. It’s fucking awesome that this genre it’s still going strong some 30 years after it’s creation and seeing you do a video like this fills me with joy. And all of it was spot on my guy! ❤

  • @chinidadian
    @chinidadian ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Album is an instant buy! Thanks so much for your research and continuing to educate us all.

  • @VAKinc
    @VAKinc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video. Deep dives into genres like this are really inspiring to me. Studying the history of music production can furnish you with so many skills, techniques, and points of reference, and really revitalize how you go about making music.

  • @Guus
    @Guus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the 2 minute bit you talked about your own album almost made me yeet the video out thinking it was clickbait. glad I didn't! This video's a goldmine of information!

  • @brainspoke
    @brainspoke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro... your passion in this video is absolutely driving ... wicked... as a junglist who was there before we had a name (generally was just rave/tekno/hardcore (an lets not forget garage before UK garage dominated the name as did Psy Trance come to dominate the word Trance) .... that either felt funky, dark, uplifting or simply mesmerising ... and we were ALL there for it... united) ... i was already subscribed but THIS vid is one of your finest in my opinion... many thanks... :) x

  • @jamesrichardsutton
    @jamesrichardsutton ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just learned a TON. Thank you for putting this together for us!

  • @harkahellhound562
    @harkahellhound562 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gott Dang... I haven't even thought about sliced sampler beats in a long time, drudging up some real nostalgia there! Also, have I seen that barn before... I swear I have seen that barn somewhere, idk. Informative video, and really brought me back.

  • @Arresk
    @Arresk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for introducing me to Ishkur's guide, I have not laughed this hard at a site in a while!

  • @deling_city
    @deling_city ปีที่แล้ว +1

    perfect time for this as im getting super into jungle and dnb

    • @deling_city
      @deling_city ปีที่แล้ว

      NOT THE FOX IN THE STABLE 😂

  • @andrewjackson5798
    @andrewjackson5798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    feels like you gotta mention that back then we only had like, twenty pixels for our pictures, total, and sometimes we had to share them uphill both ways in the snow.

    • @andrewjackson5798
      @andrewjackson5798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That glorious 240p early .avi codec vibe that kids today only know as "shit my reception is going"

  • @almightyEsquilax
    @almightyEsquilax ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The shot of the three of you dancing and the bit with you in a window you're dragging around the desktop vaguely gave me Celery Man vibes and I'm here for it.

  • @damiens_detransition
    @damiens_detransition 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cant believe I watched this whole thing! Nothing, absolutely nothing what I was expecting BUT ery entertaining.

  • @666DemonCleaner
    @666DemonCleaner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nin the perfect drug remix album lead me to dieselboy in middle school. So thankful.

  • @gonzo2049
    @gonzo2049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    please do a deep dive on garage! there is a current resurgence in the underground at the moment that i am absolutely loving that more people need to know about

  • @pkpckls
    @pkpckls ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll never forget the first time I heard The Nine at a rave, I thought a fucking airliner was coming through the wall. Can still see the expression on everybody's faces just looking at each other going 'WTF is happening' 😅Mad that it's nearly 25 years ago. Glad you've rediscovered dnb, everybody needs a bit of it in their lives

  • @BagofHoldingHTX
    @BagofHoldingHTX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was super entertaining and the memories. Lots of great information while still getting that T I double ger r fun and energy

  • @vinoxo
    @vinoxo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is absolutely what I need today

  • @kevinvacca1973
    @kevinvacca1973 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this video! This audiotorial deep dive of the genres helps me learn so much more about the music i love and one day want to create! Cant wait till your next one 😊

  • @davidemiozzi8589
    @davidemiozzi8589 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot!! I've been listening to rock most of my life, but now I'm getting more and more interested in everything tronica, but I lack a lot of perspective and this kind of videos help me a lot to understand what I'm listening to.

  • @dogmanzzzzzzzzzz3255
    @dogmanzzzzzzzzzz3255 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Big up to MSX FM from GTA III, absolutely classic jungle/drum and bass! I was about 10/11 yo and MSX just threw me in at the deep end with tunes like Omni Trio - Living For The Future (FBD Project Remix) to mention one. I’ve been fascinated and in love with Jungle/Drum and bass ever since! 33 years old now and fresh on the comedown after last nights jungle rave! Scene is still popping! Big up to Henry with the fleece and Tommy two hats, i’ll probably never see you lads again but I won’t forget ya’s! 🧙🏻‍♂️🫡

  • @Romaindeud
    @Romaindeud ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great work you did here. So fun and interesting to watch. Thanks ❤

  • @matthewallthetime218
    @matthewallthetime218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Desperate for more meaningful conversations about electronic music history. Thank you.

  • @Eztodraw_123
    @Eztodraw_123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is was a really educational video. Please keep making more of them.

  • @TheNeoAbsolution
    @TheNeoAbsolution ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so happy I watched this video! Love DnB and to see all the subgenres talked about, even on a high level, was very interesting.
    Can't wait to see other videos like this and the sheer madhouse that house music would be

  • @discophone_6214
    @discophone_6214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was absolutely insane overview to one of my favorite music! Thank you so much! More of this content please. It was very interesting to listen. And your album is great too!

  • @Whydyoucare
    @Whydyoucare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man! I dove into drum n bass while studying it on the drums and i never managed to make this full tracking of the origins.. thanks!

  • @ChildOfSaturnMusic
    @ChildOfSaturnMusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super informative and highly entertaining, thank you so much Jeremy! Can't wait to dive into some of the subgenres now that I understand them more. Before I do that, I'm gonna jam to your new album while I drive.

  • @Midekai
    @Midekai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent vid on DnB. I make the music so it's been a huge part of my life. It's rare to see explorations of the genre through an American lense.

  • @DriftMusiK
    @DriftMusiK ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy crap... you just took me on a walking tour of my teen years/twenties, from a punk/freak falling in love with the whole New Beat (Sherman/Morton/Belucci) series to where we are now! (Liquid is my fave too).

    • @DriftMusiK
      @DriftMusiK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Makes me want to dig out my old DVD of Human Traffic