So, I took the time out to learn how Ninja skills work, and it seems that they're impossible to beat if they can stun you with their rune skills, unless you one-hit them with FB, or you get lucky somehow. Since chains are pottable, they won't die, and meleeing them is out of the question, because the Ninja will just stun you with a rune skill, and STFB you at the same time. Even hitting FBs on them is tricky when they're trying to hide behind their cube skill, or their tornado skill; you'd have to both avoid jumping into those skills, and also have to try to keep them in range so that you can hit them. Is there something I'm missing here? The rune skills seem as easy to hit as zaps, so they seem to be unavoidable if the Ninja has a brain. If there's something I'm wrong about, please let me know. Right now, I only see two ways to kill them, and both are very difficult. One is to hit a double, which is to hit an FB while the Ninja is in air, and the second when he lands, since this is faster than chaining 2 hits, it may just work if your damage on the Ninja is close to killing it. The second is to try to melee them while their cube and tornado skills have just been used, and are in cooldown. Let me know if I'm overthinking this. Your advice is appreciated.
My char right now is strong enough to 1 shot most ninjas in qualifier so this isn't a big issue for me. But my best advice if you aren't able to 1 shot them with a fb you need to proc the rampage rune and try and go for a melee... i know this is a lot easier said then done but try and bait there stun skill then quickly go for a melee. other than that like you said maybe get lucky with a 2x. Everything you said is accurate and your not missing anything. I've recently been playing on a lower attack tro (about 50k attack) and I can say it is much much harder to kill ninja's then my main acc. Gl in your fights.
Man I'm an old school player, but I've seen that on my server many Trojans have an epic weapon and an arcane scepter equipped instead of two epic weapons. Can someone explain to me why they now use this type of comb??
Hello, I wanted a solution to this problem. The Trojan now cannot do anything with the payment monk. Its immunity is very high, and it cannot be overcome. What is the solution?
Only thing that can be done is melee if you're solo, which doesn't seem possible since the Monk has like 30 WWKs. So, the only plausible that can be done is that you get another player to hit the Monk at the same time; that seems to be the only way.
Why do you say Tro is weak? I play p-servers way more, so I'm not as familiar with retail? Wouldn't chaining FBs be the same as chaining with the Ninja attacks?
Tro in retail is only stronger than windwalker, thunderstriker, and dragon war. The reason they are weak is the weapon archives updates for other classes give way better stats and utility than trojans, also trojans best weapon archive gets completely countered by the violetsheild rune. You can even tell they are weak by how cheap you can get gears for trojan. And for chaining fbs it doesnt matter because people can outpot your chains even with 100% accuracy so the only way to kill them is to 1 shot them. other classes have a stun so they can stun you then melee you for huge damage and 1 shot you.
@@gamalsafwat6751 If you love trojan you should play trojan but you need to know that its a pretty weak class atm. personally i also love trojan and even know they are weak atm i will continue to play trojan
@@Dualmer for whatever reason, I can't get on the server, even though I am in NA. Super weird, every time I try to connect it just says there is an error, every other server works fine though lol
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So, I took the time out to learn how Ninja skills work, and it seems that they're impossible to beat if they can stun you with their rune skills, unless you one-hit them with FB, or you get lucky somehow. Since chains are pottable, they won't die, and meleeing them is out of the question, because the Ninja will just stun you with a rune skill, and STFB you at the same time. Even hitting FBs on them is tricky when they're trying to hide behind their cube skill, or their tornado skill; you'd have to both avoid jumping into those skills, and also have to try to keep them in range so that you can hit them.
Is there something I'm missing here? The rune skills seem as easy to hit as zaps, so they seem to be unavoidable if the Ninja has a brain. If there's something I'm wrong about, please let me know.
Right now, I only see two ways to kill them, and both are very difficult. One is to hit a double, which is to hit an FB while the Ninja is in air, and the second when he lands, since this is faster than chaining 2 hits, it may just work if your damage on the Ninja is close to killing it. The second is to try to melee them while their cube and tornado skills have just been used, and are in cooldown. Let me know if I'm overthinking this. Your advice is appreciated.
My char right now is strong enough to 1 shot most ninjas in qualifier so this isn't a big issue for me. But my best advice if you aren't able to 1 shot them with a fb you need to proc the rampage rune and try and go for a melee... i know this is a lot easier said then done but try and bait there stun skill then quickly go for a melee. other than that like you said maybe get lucky with a 2x. Everything you said is accurate and your not missing anything. I've recently been playing on a lower attack tro (about 50k attack) and I can say it is much much harder to kill ninja's then my main acc. Gl in your fights.
@@Dualmer Thanks for the answer, I'll try to figure something out. I was feeling a little discouraged in playing, but I'll figure something out.
Man I'm an old school player, but I've seen that on my server many Trojans have an epic weapon and an arcane scepter equipped instead of two epic weapons. Can someone explain to me why they now use this type of comb??
The melee skill of Scepter gives you 10 seconds of Cyclone each time it goes off. It does 7.5x damage on monsters, but 1.5x on players.
Hello, I wanted a solution to this problem. The Trojan now cannot do anything with the payment monk. Its immunity is very high, and it cannot be overcome. What is the solution?
Only thing that can be done is melee if you're solo, which doesn't seem possible since the Monk has like 30 WWKs. So, the only plausible that can be done is that you get another player to hit the Monk at the same time; that seems to be the only way.
@@War-Zone349 The pirate trio can defeat the monk right
@@gamalsafwat6751 If block doesn't go off, I'd say yeah
Why do you say Tro is weak? I play p-servers way more, so I'm not as familiar with retail? Wouldn't chaining FBs be the same as chaining with the Ninja attacks?
Tro in retail is only stronger than windwalker, thunderstriker, and dragon war. The reason they are weak is the weapon archives updates for other classes give way better stats and utility than trojans, also trojans best weapon archive gets completely countered by the violetsheild rune. You can even tell they are weak by how cheap you can get gears for trojan. And for chaining fbs it doesnt matter because people can outpot your chains even with 100% accuracy so the only way to kill them is to 1 shot them. other classes have a stun so they can stun you then melee you for huge damage and 1 shot you.
@@Dualmer Thanks for your answer
Hello man, do you think Triple Pirate is stronger or the Trojan dagger?

Pirate is because dagger just gets full canceled out by the VioletSheild rune
@@Dualmer Even if the dagger was 9 stars
@@gamalsafwat6751 yeah because violet shield gives immunity to dagger of the sigh which is the dagger archive
@@Dualmer Thank you, but I love the Trojan. Do you advise me to continue with this category, or change it, which is a pirate?
@@gamalsafwat6751 If you love trojan you should play trojan but you need to know that its a pretty weak class atm. personally i also love trojan and even know they are weak atm i will continue to play trojan
Hey man I wanna play again, it's been years though, are there any English servers?
The only one i know is the one i play on Columbus (NA ONLY), it is ip locked so only people in na can play it
@@Dualmer for whatever reason, I can't get on the server, even though I am in NA. Super weird, every time I try to connect it just says there is an error, every other server works fine though lol
@@whisperahobo thats weird you might have to try and make a ticket
u did not say if u going to straem soon or not ?
Probably not, theres not much to do atm
@@Dualmer is there any way to contact u directly ?
@@KareemQ81 you could dm me on twitter, its in the description of every video
@@Dualmer i did Dm u on twitter
but u did not c it yet
Hi, i want to come back to the game after 10 years, what class should i play? Pure war or ninja or anything else, idk what to choose.
Ninja is the best class in the game rn, but play whatever you like
trojan as always.
La única profesión que le puede ser frente los ninja guerro porque su runa pura denfeza y los físico pega rápido
i like how u play even with a high ping man
Bro show me you jiang hu pls
You can see my jiang in my full Dual Character Showcase Video