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Why Many Hindus Support Israel - Abhijit Iyer-Mitra Explains | Reaction
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We support ISRAEL 🇮🇱 because we know what jews have faced in the past and ISRAEL 🇮🇱 supported us in the war of 1999 with their intelligence sharing. We as INDIANS respect jews for how resilient they have become whether it's the IT, DEFENSE, space or anything.
In the past, there was a time when Jewish community faced criticism in the entire world but not in India. Israel openly helped India in wars, and helped us in technological advancements. Moreover, both of us are fighting with a common threat of Islamic terrorism for several decades.
The above reasons bring us closer & we have nothing to hate, so our love for each other is natural
You said you have never heard anything related to what he said in the video irl. But using the same logic , i know for sure that the Brits aren't taught about the horrific crimes the British empire comitted in India and in other colonies , They also consider Winston Churchill a hero . But all the colonies know that he was a mass murderer who murdered millions and was almost equivalent to Hitler .
Just because they had never heard about it doesnt mean its untrue right .
(Not being disrespectful just giving my opinion )
I see what you are trying to get at.
I know what Christianity has done and what it was used for and I'm certainly not defending this. Although I'm not aware of what that meant for Jews.
I think my challenge is that what I observed before people are passing judgements and keeping something alive that's not there anymore (providing it was in the first place). I think the "Western world" is so Goldless these days that..
@@zuzanareactswell
Nordic Christian really believed jews ( judas ) betrayed the jesus and indirectly lead to death of Jesus
Hence the reason term judas in Germanic mean betrayal or anti Christ
@@zuzanareacts I'm pretty sure that he was talking about about the past not the present and may be christians are not represented hitler but he himself stood as the overlord of christianity and In Germany, many individuals who were not zealous Nazis nonetheless participated in varying degrees in the persecution and murder of Jews and other victims. Following German occupation, countless people in other countries also cooperated in the persecution of Jews. So it also was religious radicalism that got activated at that time even though it was a racial ethnic cleansing at its core total aim.And all these are facts.He didn't mean that It's still that case and if this offended you i will say sorry for him that he didn't specially mentioned that's not the case of present christians.
Let bygone be bygone n focus on how to bring heart n world closer even a little bit of effort in this regard is better than analysing non changeable past.
@@zuzanareactsNope it was not Christianity specifically. It were the businesses e.g :- East India Company. There is no religious aspect to it. That is forced into Christianity.
Zuzana need to hear truth even how brutal and rough it may seem. I was sightseeing York in England and the tourist guide showed me a square where the King had a night where he dreamt he needed to punish Jews of what happened to Jesus. All the Jews of the town were brought there and slaughtered. Jews have suffered a lot in Eurpoe. There is another set of people who have suffered as bad if not worse are Gypsies of Europe. Their treatment in Eastern Europe is so brutal and shocking.
Hey, hope you enjoyed York - I think it's one of the nicest little towns out there! :). I never heard of this. Thank you for sharing. Gypsies is a very different category that from what I can see you guys with all respect don't understand at all. Also, every country deals with them differently,.
@@zuzanareacts You mean the Romani's?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Romani_people#:~:text=The%20author%20Ralph%20Lilley%20Turner,sounds%20of%20Old%20Indo-Aryan.
@@zuzanareacts Clifford's Tower, where the Jews of York were killed in 1190. Isolated attacks on Jews also occurred at Colchester, Thetford, and Ospringe. A significant loss of life occurred at York on the night of 16 March (Shabbat HaGadol, the Shabbat before Passover) and 17 March 1190. Now on don't say you haven't heard about this. Nazis murdered a quarter of Europe’s Roma, but history still overlooks this genocide.The genocide of the Romani people during World War Two occurred throughout Europe and led to the death of approximately 220,000 Romani people, or around 25 per cent of a pre-war population of approximately 1 million.1 The persecution of various Romani groups varied widely throughout the European continent; in some places the UN definition of genocide, including the ‘intent to destroy, in whole or in part’, definitively applied
@@zuzanareactsit's actually not that difficult to understand just think about how much have u read about indian subcontinent's history and massacres
@@zuzanareactsjust a simple point that may help u with the frustration is that even when u acknowledge that u guys don't read about india Or know nothing about indians but somehow European and westren people always think they can lecture us and judge us, that's the problem
India is highly political. We have 1500 political parties. Unlike Europe where nationalism is looked down upon due to Hitler but in India Nationalism is what got us independence after 1000 years of colonialism from Muslims and European colonisers. We could have become highly developed like Japan or Korea if we just accepted USA to open up military bases in India and become their vassal state. But for us our freedom was of paramount importance even if we developed a little slow.
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Zuzanna ,
As someone who genuinely wants to understand your culture and also want you to understand our culture,
1. The internet is full of all sorts of people. There will be at least 1 comment that is going to upset you.
You should've accepted this reality the moment you put yourself online.
2. You are one running the channel with the intent of connecting with people. If you present resistance to people offering you their opinions and thoughts (however good or bad they may be), you're the one who stared this conversation.
3. I agree you can choose to be skeptical of certain people like Abhijit if you find his opinions contrasting.
However, for this particular topic, it comes off as someone who is finding it difficult to accept that there's a dark side to Christianity.
You don't seem to show the same skepticism when you asked Christians about this God killer story.
4. This will also be annoying to some people in India because our experience with Christianity for the past 500 years has been British, Dutch, French colonization, and Portugese Inquisitions.
We've experienced the dark side of Christianity that you refuse to believe exists.
5. No culture is perfect, but the people whom you're dealing with are not similar to you in thought, philosophy, education, or life experiences.
6. If you feel uncomfortable with any comments, it's best to discuss them with an open mind rather than being a snowflake.
Otherwise, it leaves a bad taste.
P.S.
I am just another random guy on the internet. If you find my comments hurtful somehow, just ignore it.
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Hey - so I see what you are saying.
One thing that's completely shocking is that how you'd even come to a conclusion that I'm defending Christianity is mind-blowing - I wish I could use 100s of emojis with exploded heads.
I'm spiritual - I studied history for my degree and when I did I thought to myself how can anyone belive in religion after knowing all of this - is beyond me - so again your assessment is largely inaccurate.
But in all honestly, I just wanted people to start seeing things are totally different than what the videos portray. That's the point. However, someone said that people are well aware it was in a historical context .....
And you are right about the internet - I perhaps will stop responding to comments - doesn't seem to be going anywhere :)
😂damn!
Fantastic 😂
They don't know about that history, collages are not willing to teach the colonization history. "I heard it from a UK student".
இந்திய மக்கள் எப்போதும் இஸ்ரேல் மக்களை உடன் பிறந்த சகோதரர் சகோதரியாக தான் இதுவரை பாவித்து வந்து இருக்கின்றனர் இனிவரும் காலமும் இஸ்ரேல் மக்களை இந்திய மக்கள் வரவேற்கத் தயாராக உள்ளனர் ஜெய்ஹிந்த் ஜெய் இஸ்ரேல்
When you are in india, you tend to forget religion. I think this is what dharma leads people to :- True consciousness.
He is speaking about it in a historical context. Not the present sentiment.
*Hey Zuzana,*
Millions of Indians are Christians and 3 states have 80%+ Christian Majority in India. So many Indians are generally well versed with sects in Christianity, Islam etc as their close friends are from among them.
Millions of Non-christian Indians have actually studied in Christian schools and colleges in India. And then there's recent British colonial past too.
So it's not like Indians aren't aware... *but for the rest of the Asia your statement generally holds true.*
And what Abhijeet said here in the podcast is both historically and textually true if we go by the book and the rulers... especially about massacre and anti-Semitism.
You can actually find it in Holy Bible, Chapter ISAIAH 9 - The Lord will Punish Israel.
But it's also equally true that some Christian Kings didn't practice the anti-semitism stuff and some Christian sects divulged from the Biblical texts and thus didn't practice it. Then there are multiple denominations in Christianity and some might reject the above quote from the Holy Bible. Regardless, jews were sadly massacred in the entire of Europe under most regimes.
Cheers 🥂
thank you for sharing this :)
I just wanted to mention no Christian would ever call the other Christian religion sect - this is very very bad. This is what I talk about when I say there is a lack of understanding of how the denominations operate. Sect = evil. Also, you have to understand that the same religion e.g. if I'm protestant is practised differently in Slovakia and in Germany for instance - I know that from experience. hence, the part that I don't appreciate is when Indian people throw all Christianity under one umbrella and to me this means they don't comprehend how it really works in reality. However, I decided that I'm done with this topic - people will only want to listen to what they want to and there are only few like you who I think get it.
@@zuzanareacts *Pardon me for being a keyboard warrior :)*
Well, sect is quite a positive term in the USA, Australia, India, Middle-east and East.
Indians, Aussies are generally well aware of the denominations apart from the far east and middle-eastern nations. You might find some in Korea or Japan but the knowledge is pretty low (10%) regardless.
People tend to have biases and opinions and it's nothing to get upset about.
In my travel experiences, it's indeed true that here in the west, the governments propagate lies and propaganda especially about India and even about China. On the other hand, Australia is treated incredibly well as it's the part of the Anglo-Saxon white race and also part of Five eyes intelligence.
Yes, the UK, USA etc funded wars over there, supported dictatorships and even terrorism as long as it didn't hurt the USA although after 9/11 it did. You can actually see that spanning out with India when the UK, USA etc funded an Islamic dictatorship of Pakistan which initiated 4 major wars with Democratic India. No wonder India remained neutral in Ukraine - Russia war. Germany and Britain In-fact went on record to say "Do more trade" after the war.... it's like saying Ukraine and Russia should do more trade now, lol. It's like the London library calling the Indian Ramayana a mythology or an epic but events from the Bible and Quran as realities. Same goes for the state reality of China which is trolled as communist but actually follows Confucianism, Buddhism(originated in India) and Taoism in it's majority.
So yes, there's a sociological and historical context to it and a deep rooted western racism and hypocrisy against the East(Asia Pacific). The far eastern nations like Japan and S.Korea are vassal states of the USA so like Australia, they get a good pat and a positive media narrative here in the west.
*And all of that trickles down in the opinion and narrative building of Indians and Chinese although both are vastlly different as India is extremely pluralistic.*
And we both know even here in the west, many Christians although aware of denominations, don't know the underlying differences and their historical significance. Many for eg. didn't know of how Jews were massacred, or slaves trade in Africa or colonization of India etc.
If you don't judge Indians, Chinese etc via the social media narratives or on platforms like tiktok, Omegle etc...you'll generally find they're highly intellectual, family oriented, kind and deep rooted. Multiple opinions, direct approach etc are kinda common amongst Indians considering their religious and ethnic diversity. *So you'll get many supporting you and many condemning you and that's absolutely alright.* The rest of the east is quite homogenous in that regard within their borders. So yeah, there are multiple factors to it and the contradictions start appearing cuz for long only the west was propagating a certain narrative which we've become accustomed too. China, India, Korea, South Africa etc now want to speak out more and they don't accept that singularity of thoughts, history etc we imposed. Indians mostly are factual about their narrative and you'll see the USA getting in bed with them to counter China...typical of our way. The Middle Eastern thoughts on Christianity are sadly negative and that's a different ball game altogether.
Hope that helps.
Cheers 🥂
So Icannot comment on this but the word sect: "It often has a negative connotation in English because it implies that the group departed from what was standard to believe something different or odd. If you are comparing two sects you might talk about their sectarian differences." (Feel free to google this)
@@zuzanareacts Thank you, before I read your comments, I had no idea that the word "sect" has a negative connotation. I'll use it more judiciously from now on. About the "putting all Christians under one umbrella" part, I'd just call these people ignorant. But then aren't we all? I'll give you my own example: I used to look at USA as a monolith. Every decision taken and every move made by the USA seemed to me to be something premeditated and done by a "deep state". Now, I have a slightly more nuanced opinion, where I can see that even USA is at war with itself. There are interest groups within in and as a result, much of what USA does is either the result of some kind of lobbying or just bureaucratic inertia. Ofcourse my study of USA is still under progress, so it might look very different by the end of it all. But I do agree that people who throw all Christians under one umbrella are just letting their cognitive biases get the better of them. The Internet has the power to both amplify and bust down echo chambers. Scratch that, not the internet, but we through the internet have that power. It is just a matter of choices. The average Indian is yet to realize this. But many of us do. It just takes a lot of effort to get closer to the truth, so people prefer to just form an opinion without proper analysis. Me included.
@@zuzanareactsHow is it our job to look at different sects and treat them differently? You want to look at all of the sects as Christianity, but you don't want us to comment on Christianity as a whole. When it comes to talking about Christianity, we want to look at individual issues and not attribute it to Christianity.. can you give me an example of How Rome became Christian? Was it peaceful? Was it wonderful for Romans who were pluralistic and proud of their original cultures!?
As a Hindu and an Indian and a human being I fully support Israel we are with them
When hindus , christians and jewish have united , you know something is up .❤🕉✡✝️
What about other religions, my favourite religion is Buddhism ❤
@@Naughty12229sure .
@@Naughty12229 We don`t mention Buddhism as foreign religion. We consider it as our brotherly religion. That`s why we don`t specifically mention it. We know even if Christan and Islam stand against Hinduism but Buddism will never go against us.
@@Naughty12229buddhism is a subset of buddhism , so calling them hindu is not new
@@Naughty12229 Religion is a foreign term for organised beliefs.
Buddhism is atheistic school of thought originating in India. Unlike religions originating in west asia, indian faith is much like Japanese Shinto (each region having its own culture & deities and festivals), Greek(again each city/kingdom having their own main deity/demi god), roman, indigenous faith of Norse people etc.
And every faith originating in India is dharmic faith and they are influenced from each other, or more accurately, each belief system in India is based on pre existing norms of society and arised out of needs for philosophical ideas. When some of these ideas were molded in form of sacred books, and west invaded India, they started addressing them as seprate religion. Many sects which aren't even considered mainstream faiths in India, are as old as other faiths which originated in India. They are limited to selected areas only and were not writing down in specific books otherwise we would have more religions arising out of India.
You're so brave to speak your heart out without fearing anything. Stay this way!
What do you mean? She doesn’t live in Afghanistan 😂
@@bucksman LOL! I mean, many youtubers and influencencers only speak what would resonate with their subscribers, and would never say that "I dont agree with you guys." At least that's what I feel.
@@shubhamsingh5434that's why she is being praised...she is so different from other youtubers...
AIM is very knowledgeable and extremely neutral. He knows what he is saying. Do not dismiss him. We need more of him.😊
Don't know man. I find AIM has very good knowledge when it comes to geopolitics, but he is an absolute clown when it comes to defence technology. But that is maybe just due to me having much more in-depth knowledge about defence tech than I have about geopolitics. So AIM could be equally clueless about geopolitics, but I don't have the ability to judge him on that.
He said truth that Jews and Christian fought ideological war from past thousands of years and then that fight transfer to Muslim Jews fight after world war 2 because 2 big winner are Christian state(USSR and USA) and I understand you don't know about it because mostly europian study material selected by USA and USSR verification
Only free nation's people can read real truth
Today's Christians or people in Europe are secular and do not hate jews for being jewish but anti-semitism was a thing in Europe back then, I've heard it from jews who traveled rishikesh. You may not agree.
Look - I never experience or heard anything about it - that's as much as I can say.
@@zuzanareactsFine then don't be pissed on everything when your goal is to learn and understand. Agree to disagree don't harp on those which you don't have experience off
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Zuzana, you may have not heard of many things that do exist, like you weren't aware of the term Abrahamic religion and you claimed it does not exist in Western society but America mediated Abrahamic Acord between Israel and Arab countries.
I totally agree with this - just because I don't know it does not mean it does not exist. This sheds light that many different countries and cultures are aware of and do things differently. I just share from my personal angle.
We are peace loving nation so we support humanity...we never endorse any war ,neither we are interested in any war...We are the only country existing in this planet where spirituality speaks volume above being religious. Now world slowly following our path.
About Indian culture….. trust me …. Even we Indians faces difficulties in understanding each others culture in India itself…. We have so much diversities…… to understand you need to travel different provinces of India……
Abhijit is right. Hard to contradict his analysis as he is narrating facts. Hope someone contradicts as well with facts or prove otherwise. Interesting interview.
Lagta hai Dil pe jaake lagi hai baat .
Ganje ne sahi aag laga di
Zuzana Ji, It's okay, If you don't know about it but abhijit sir is factually correct 💯, love from 🇮🇳
Dear Zuzana, he is talking about the past, not today's European society.
Europe need politician like GEERT WILDERS ...who know the true face of Islam
And he wins the election
watched this for iyer and he is right.
Mam there are 1.4 billion of us so every issue will have some negative opinions so please ignore it and just read the most appreciated or liked comments. Also, AIM is a geopolitical analyst who has his sarcastic way of looking at things but his intentions are always neutral. Thirdly what he is putting out is the historical context of pre industrial Europe & biases that have seeped through both Christian & Islamic world although the former has shredded much of it due to economic development. We always have loved your persona cause you are self educating yourselft which is much appreciated cause we all know how old media works. Just ignore negativity, keep on the journey & we are right behind you❤❤❤
thank you!❤
Everything Anhijit is saying in this interview is correct. I am from India and lived in US for several decades. I have read a lot of books about European history, American history etc etc. in the past Christians did indeed blame Jews for the death of Christ. At the present however Christians do not talk about it. Christians and Jews now face the common adversary.Abhijit is also right about jealousy against Jews in Europe because they were wealthier, more educated, professionals and generally very successful . It goes without saying that how much this world owes to Jewish people when it comes to progress in science and technology.
"What is she trying to say? I didn't even understand a single line."
There is nothing like good Hindu.... You are just Hindu... Your goodness define the person you are.. That's your " Karma ".😊
Well said👏🏽👏🏽
To understand bharat culture in simple terms is.. live with & within nature. If you try to understand in this way in understanding Bharat 🇮🇳 then you will see all rituals with transparent view
Jai Bharat 🇮🇳 Jai Hind 🚩
Whatever he said is absolutely harsh truth & hard to digest. India & Hinduism is older than history.
Indians support Israel because they admire this tiny country surrounded by hostile muslim countries, fought three or four wars and won every war. And how this tiny nation has progressed into a modern country. Also Jews have been living in India for a thousand years.
Here comes AIM the Great! You should have reacted to the entire podcast, Zuzana.
I support Israel, but not war & casualties. Thanks for a Excellent Video about Hindus & Jews.
A war without casualties 😂😂😂 are you living in a videogame 😂😂😂😂
Bhai bin hue na preet.
He put both in same basket.@@singhdeepak10
You may have not heard it because you live in a modern world. They don't talk about things that spread hate in the modern world.
He's talking about a pre-industrialised society.
I was about to comment the same thing. It's almost a taboo in Europe and North America to talk about things like that.
AIM is more European than 99.9 pc Europeans. He spent weeks in gaza in order to say a word about it. I eould always go with him. As i many times have been proven wrong against what AIM said. He GOOD.
Hello, I would like to suggest this book, here you would find answers regarding your disagreement(s); A Short History of the Jewish People From Legendary Times to Modern Statehood by Raymond P. Scheindlin. Hope it helps.
thanks for sharing!
@@zuzanareacts Hey, thanks for replying. Diversity of opinion is great, and I appreciate it. If possible, then go through Chapter: 5, 7, and 9 of the book.
History is sucks ; full of love ; hate ; blood.
Lets love ❤️
You can say whatever you want.. Just like we did. Everyone has opinion.
I m hindu I m support any platform Israel 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Abhijith Ayer Mitra is an example of why India is misunderstood by western media who see India only through western labels. This guy is considered as a "right wing Hindu" by foreign media and also some western wannabe Indian media. But guess what? He is a gay Brahmin (higher caste) who eats beef (strictly prohibited to even eat egg in Brahmin caste) and also an atheist! He probably criticizes Modi/BJP more than average left anchor. And 90% of his viewers are "right wing Hindus" who like him! Interesting perspective from your side as well, he is a smart guy but can get things incorrectly. I follow his podcasts, he is actually pretty funny but even I disagree with him on many things.
You forgot one thing. He is the biggest Christian missionary after Mother Teresa. The guy once tried to convert me to Christianity. 😂😂😂
I hear you - thanks for sharing!
@fusionx9593 No, I didn't. 😂 Btw, did you know Meenakshi Jain ji? She is no longer Jain. AIM has converted her in Christianity. He gave her the new name Sister Superior Griselda Theophilus. 😂😂
@@Nakul4552if it isn't sarcasm than please kill me😢😂
Indians support isreal beacuse whenever india needs isreal isreal stand with india without any condition.. thats why isreal india india isreal love eachother...❤
I stopped the video at 9 minute mark. Not sure about guest speakers background, 🙄 .
As per one Jewish scholar: India is the only country where they were always welcome , lived confortable, safe and never persecuted. Thus over years friendship grew. 👍🙏🕉✡️
Ignore those nasty comments we love what u bring to the table
Zuzana, I'm so glad you watched this. I was thinking about you while watching this podcast myself. 😃
OMG .... You got really upset with the comment section... No no no... Stop focusing on the bad comments... Anyways very good explanation of your opinion... And yes, Indian culture is complex but again even us Indians don't understand everything all the time 😂😂😂...
History is subjective and only winners wrote what is need to be taught in entire world
You should learn cruel history of Christian in goa India. This will eye opener for You. 🧐🧐
Interesting - I of course can only see things from here and I can tell you every religion's practices can vary from country to country that much I have observed. However, use the term Christianity I find inaccurately as there are many different branches and I want to know then which "branch" is "responsible" if that makes sense
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And I don't want to hurt your feelings 🥰
But you have to believe in some historical facts my Big Sister.
I am Admirer of your content keep it up ☺
@@zuzanareactsWhy do i have to distinguish between different sects of Christianity that's your internal theological disagreement. Fact is it was done in the name of Christ . Read Goa' s inquisition by St Xavier.
@@harshitsingh1600facts bro facts
All the shit happened (everywhere) on the name of fucking Christ
A self claimed son of God 😂
He was a mental patient in reality who visualise a lot😂
He was speaking in the historical context and people of india are not that stupid to believe that it's still the case we are not the so called western democracies we are open people we don't live by propaganda (i'm not generalizing the west)
Really like understanding your POV on different issues, and the way you put it.
I love Isarial and I am Hindu also but pls stop this war it hurt me when I see 8 year old children dei in fb 😢😢😢😢
This is demon from hell .
fb?? face book
@@Newsports384 yup
Who care if it's hurt your feeling. Your loved ones is not butchered or kidnapped, so your advice is irrelevant.
The decision to take any action is on the country and family.
Don't judge 1.4 billion people based on few 100 comments, Zuzanna. 😅😅 There are many people in India who are curious to learn your perspective without being judgmental. So focus on those people.
I appreciate that! thank you ❤
The word YHVH was first used in the Bible, when the Divine Voice identified itself as YHVH, at MT. Sinai, When Moses asks him, after seeing the fire in the bushes, who is he? According to scholars, there is a similarity between the pronunciation of the word Havyavah and YHVH.
Havyavahana ' meaning : " Carrier Of Sacrificial Offerings I.E. Butter/Fire " Havyavaha, Havyavāha, Havya-vaha:
In Hinduism
Purana and Itihasa (epic history)
[«previous (H) next»] - Havyavaha in Purana glossary
Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: The Purana Index
1a) Havyavāha (हव्यवाह).-A son of Suci Agni; the Agni of devas.*
1b) One of the ten kalas energising Agni.*
1c) Those charged with different directions.*
The Purana (पुराण, purāṇas) refers to Sanskrit literature preserving ancient India’s vast cultural history, including historical legends, religious ceremonies, and various arts and sciences. The eighteen mahapuranas total over 400,000 shlokas (metrical couplets) and date to at least several centuries BCE.
- Havyavaha in Sanskrit glossary
Source: DDSA: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary
Havyavāha (हव्यवाह).-m. 'the bearer of oblations', fire; तथा हि तोयौघविभिन्नसंहतिः स हव्यवाहः प्रययौ पराभवम् (tathā hi toyaughavibhinnasaṃhatiḥ sa havyavāhaḥ prayayau parābhavam) Ki.16.61; अथ संचिन्तयामास भगवान् हव्यवाहनः (atha saṃcintayāmāsa bhagavān havyavāhanaḥ) Mb.3.217.1.
Havyavāha is a Sanskrit compound consisting of the terms havya and vāha (वाह). See also (synonyms): havyalehin, havyavāh, havyavāhana.
Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Shabda-Sagara Sanskrit-English Dictionary
Havyavāha (हव्यवाह).-m.
(-haḥ) Fire. E. havya an oblation, and vāha who bears.
Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Benfey Sanskrit-English Dictionary
Havyavāha (हव्यवाह).-[havya-vāha], havyavāhana havya-vāhana, havyāśa havyāśa, i. e. havya-aś + a, and havyāśana havyāśana, i. e. havya-aśana, m. Fire, [Draupadīpramātha] 2, 10 (vāha); [Rāmāyaṇa] 3, 51, 29 (vāhana); [Rājataraṅgiṇī] 5, 416 (āśa).
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Havyavāha (हव्यवाह).-m. fire. Hastivāha, i. e.
Havyavāha is a Sanskrit compound consisting of the terms havya and vāha (वाह).
Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Cappeller Sanskrit-English Dictionary
Havyavāha (हव्यवाह).-[adjective] & [masculine] = [preceding]
Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Monier-Williams Sanskrit-English Dictionary
1) Havyavaha (हव्यवह):-[=havya-vaha] [from havya > hava] m. fire, [cf. Lexicographers, esp. such as amarasiṃha, halāyudha, hemacandra, etc.]
2) Havyavāha (हव्यवाह):-[=havya-vāha] [from havya > hava] mfn. (or -vāha) = -vah (also applied to the Aśvattha tree of whose wood the Araṇi is made), [Atharva-veda; Taittirīya-brāhmaṇa]
3) [v.s. ...] m. Agni or fire, [Mahābhārata; Mārkaṇḍeya-purāṇa]
Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Yates Sanskrit-English Dictionary
Havyavāha (हव्यवाह):-[havya-vāha] (haḥ) 1. m. Idem.
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Havyavaha in German
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Sanskrit also spelt संस्कृतम् (saṃskṛtam), is an ancient language of India commonly seen as the grandmother of the Indo-European language family (even English!). Closely allied with Prakrit and Pali, Sanskrit is more exhaustive in both grammar and terms and has the most extensive collection of literature in the world, greatly surpassing its sister languages Greek and Latin.
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Hello Zuzana, I do understand your concerns and tbh many people form their opinions based on what supports their worldview which really makes it difficult to make them understand due to their prejudices. Another thing to remember is that most Indians statistically don't know English that well and there are also 2nd language speakers which I think causes them and you to talk past each other. And honestly people on the internet are so spiteful and dismissive and I only wish they had some empathy and understanding especially in gaming my god. One way I handle this is I look at their conclusions and I think "what premises does this have to come up with such conclusions?" And I would realise there is nothing and just dismiss their claims (this sort of thinking arises when reading too much philosophy for me). So keep asking questions and continue seeking as it is essential on the spiritual path.
Some context to know about Abijit: He is not one mince words regarding anyone especially his own country. One thing I would say is that we and everyone like about him is that he is an extremely critical person against everyone and all government and parties haha. Idk if there is anyone he doesn't complain about. Regardless whether he's right or wrong I can say he is consistent. Like he did an almost 2 hour podcast talk on the end of Hinduism with the Carvaka Podcast haha. I do think he is better than Abhijit Chavda when it comes to politics because he works at The Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies along with defence economics and foreign policy and he was also put in jail once for false charges so he has more skin in the game. Ah he is also an atheist and that comes with secular view unlike both of us.
Sorry if I rambled too much or missed any points it's a habit of mine.
Btw, what do you find most confusing about India? Philosophy, culture etc?
I apprecaite the comment. I think it's the culture and how people think - I find it very different and I may start to form my theory on this. However, I do realise what I'm tihnking might be totally wrong so I just keep listening but then I think maybe also interenet comments may not be the best way to start to form my opinion anyways🙈
I understand where you come from about this topic and of course we are not as immersive and knowledgeable about the religion and history of the west. having said that, I suppose what was mentioned in the video was just one narrative he stumbled upon.
I would love for you to invite ABhijit to your channel and clear out once and for all!
I would suggest you to watch agora 2009 film 🎬 to know how Christianity entered Europe through its gateway Greece🇬🇷
Love the way you look at the man when u disagreed with him😂
haha
@@zuzanareacts @zuzana simple question: if u find the reason/origin/rationale of anti-semitism across europe in medieval times (not now)--> that will help u falsify or confirm the hypothesis 'hatred for jews started with god-killer sentiment' ....itz an easy/credible way to come to a conclusion...
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I don't know i am judging it correctly or not .....but what i felt was
He was talking about what people used to think in past .....and you are associating it with our present day scenario
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There is natural evolution in all cultures.......and every thing has +ve & -ve ......some thoughts might be considered okay for their duration and same thing might be considered problematic to present day and naturaly people avoid taking about it and eventually people forget about it or denies its self
Yes i am hindu and all indian hindu support Israel 🇮🇳🇮🇱🇮🇳🇮🇱🇮🇳🇮🇱
We Hindus always support Israel
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You are right but you're living in a time when religious radicalism is at all time low due to post-industrial modernisation. So in the past you could find references to ugly things, but today they might be non existent in the social life.
I appreciate you lady, to considering points. Its good for both of us, for our development, but as a hindu i know about the Holocaust, and this will not happen in the future again. We are with you people.
Zuzane never have a pre determined set concepts about religion.
Today is the 15th anniversary of 26/11 Mumbai attacks, which were carried out by Pakistani army sponsored terrorists (which was proven later by material as well as confessional evidence).
You'd be surprised to know that there were some people in India (you may guess their background and religious motivations), who published a book creating a narrative which said that Hindu organisations orchestrated the attack to pin the blame on Muslims and Pakistan.
When the results of investigation came out after a Supreme Court inquiry where Pakistani hand was proved, the author and promoters of the book refused to apologize and said it's their opinion and they have freedom of speech and expression.
So we have seen times and even today we see many times when crime against Hindus takes place and the Hindus themselves are blamed.
What is even more frustrating is that when there is no way to pin the blame on Hindus, some news portals like BBC, NYT, Al Jazeera would pick up a familiar narrative of "majoritarian Hindu India" where Muslims are a minority- hence they just aren't able to commit crime against Hindus. Therefore, any reports of a Muslim extremist committing a crime must either be misreported or manufactured news. And if he has actually committed a crime, it must be because he might be afraid of majority Hindus oppressing him or taking away his rights. So his crime is justified.
People who do comparative study of history of different countries and its demographics (religion wise) . You will understand why majority of Hindus resent muslims and islam .
Hindus have always been ahead in gaining knowledge and understanding things happening around the world .
The reason you feel this way because you trying too hard... with indian culture just see things as if its a movie.. dnt think deeply about things. the reason for that is like every culture there is a tons of context and nuances.. these videos touch upon 1% of the culture.. indian being so diverse even within india we have millions of interpretation of our own culture. No one expects you understand it jst from videos. We might have opinions that might be extremely toxic in your opinion but thats what makes us different. Its not about right or wrong. its more about which side of the coin you are looking at. I know some of the videos might have opinions and tone which is hard to react too but just see them without going deep into them. Once you have spend considerable time seeing things I promise you it will all come together. Also ignore the comments section, even we indians can't deal with other indians and their idiotic opinions so we dnt expect you to do it either..
awww - bless you - thank you for the comment - really appreciate it ❤
Yah man u r right.
AIM is kind of a guy who would like to discuss with you if you disagree with what he said , he is a well read and well learned person who had also travel across the globe and I am also sure even the podcaster ranveer or someone from his team must have seen this video , you have full right to disagree with him and it would be a nice thing if someone arrange a talk between two of you it will be healthy discussion and may be you both could clear doubts of each other , nothing wrong on your part to say what you feel or what your side of story is ..
As a hindu I apologise mam. Please don't take his words. We are peace loving people and we don't war mam.
But we have be enslaved for 1200 years. So please forgive our mistakes
What mistake?
His can you say that he is saying wrong things he might be correct also
I don't know about Indian syllabus, but today's kids knows most things, if not every, through Movies, Documentaries, Books, Indian really like to read books out of their syllabus, and you can trust me on this and am sure you are smart enough not take one person's opinion on everything, out of 1.4 Billions.
he told about previous Europe mentality he is not talking about now what people think
Bharat's Vedic civilization and Christian Europe and their social structure are polar opposites and it should remain that way. Btw, he was spitting facts and didn't made it up and he irks a lot of people including Hindus, Christians or Muslims who can't digest the ugly side of their own society. I being a Hindu respect his views because he doesn't have opinions but facts and figures.
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🔴 Verses reflect in believers... 😶
I love him he is also a gem Mr abhishek iyer mitra he also has been to North Korea watch that podcast too😂
Having no prior knowledge, after watching the video, I find myself with a few uncertainties.
Did the Jews have a hand in Jesus's death, and why were they persecuted if they aren't considered "God killers"?
As an engineering student, I've chosen psychology as my optional subject, so I've prepared for my test in that area.
These precise points were taught to us by our professor in class (She was from Germany. I received full marks for reproducing these.)
The notion that "Jews are the God killers" is a misconception; Jesus and his early followers were Jewish, and the circumstances of his crucifixion involved multiple political and religious factors of the time.
The narrative suggests Jesus was crucified by Romans at the behest of some Jewish authorities, but attributing blame solely to all Jewish people is historically inaccurate and has fueled harmful stereotypes and persecution.
Persecution of Jewish people across history has been fueled by prejudice, ignorance, and scapegoating rather than factual justifications.
Also don't care about the hate coments,Some peeps could be very harsh (because some of the things gets lost while writing english , I think Indians are not most very polite when we use english to convers maybe we don't understand the garvity of few words ,becase those words in our language will not hold such kinda garvity so we freely use them:)
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You have expressed your sincere views on this matter.The world after second world war is more or less becoming multi-ethnic societies/ countries. Pluralistic societies etc..And such such societies are successful like Singapore USA etc. However the threat of a war still looming the world basis of which is language religion or ethnicity.Therefore people become curious when they hear about a community being targeted continuously over several hundred years in Europe or elsewhere. They look for possible reasons. And you may be right in denying the basis of such analysis like Europe did not have any feeling like ''christ was crucified in the hands of jews ''. We dont have to be guilty or even apologetic about the mistakes in history. Whatever the past is a past. But then ... we can not state ''because of our affection/love we persecuted them ''.
I respect your opinion.....
I don't blame you the whole west has this problem they are so self satisfied they never tried to understand culture of the 3rd world countries as they called. ( love your videos ❤)
They are not 3rd world countries it is just one earth these people will also divide everything even nations by all means
You cant really deny the fact by skipping a video, facts are facts mam
i am a hindu not a christain so i wont judge you keep the video out of mind,you have so expressive eyes and you look so beautiful and i love your blonde hair,the t shirt you are wearing the color matches your hair ❤💯 i wish you could have uploaded the video in morning i really have a bad day
sending a lot of positivity your way!
@@zuzanareacts😂😂😂😂😂me too Zuzana to them from your side
Whatever Hindus❤ U
Abhijeet iyer sir is very knowledgeable person, just like abhijit chawda sir the gems of india, words r all true in previous times else why r jews less in number?
Your historians didn't taught you the history accurately.....they only taught you which were not true partially 😂😂....there was also a Hollywood film that Zeus killed Jesus
The war name as "Haifa" fought by Indian Army for Israel...
On the behalf of Britishers 🙄
@@harshrajpoot1 💯✅... But Lade toh Bhartiya hi the ...
Zuzana Ji. Relax. Your explanation of your reaction to the video amazing. Very clear strong chain of thought. I like that you did not loose your calm to the extent that you would go on extreme defensive position. Since I feel you have what it takes to better understand the situation with your experience as a professional counsellor yourself, I am putting forth this following points ( I am no expert so sorry in advance). 1) Its not like we have never encountered Jews in this part of the world. 2) The point point AIM is trying to make is explaining reason for Antisemitism "if any" found within the white Christian belt. 3) I dont know about Europe and especially non English speaking white Christian communities. I dont know about their kryptonite that trigger guilt and raise shield reactions in them. 4) What I know from watching American movies and media of the 70's thru 2010's is that there was "hate that Jew" narration and I never understood that where that was coming from. The explanation you get for it from Jewish friends we enquire and American friends is what AIM was trying to explain. 5) There would have been no need for term Antisemitism if such a thing never existed. No one is accusing you or generalizing all Christian communities think that but such a thing exists. 6) I dont know if you are aware of evangelical movement in India and amount of money and clout they have. I myself studied in one such catholic schools in my childhood. Most of the Bible stories (not from Bible but fictional stories which would follow explaining virtues explained in a certain verse from the Bible, These were called moral stories and in most of the moral stories it was the poor poise Christian against wealthy Jewish guy. May be they choose Jewish character as the other guy so as to not upset local non Christian Hindu or Muslim community children to whom these moral stories were thought). Trust me when I was around 8 or 9 after a year of moral science subject in my school a) I used to think all Jews would have converted to Christianity because that was the coolest thing to be. b) Every year our school would have white teenagers from UK and USA visiting our schools on special occasions they would sing carols distribute sweets show movies ( mostly kids cartoons based on moral stories ). b) Imagine at age of 8 or 9 being a brown kid seeing a white person aged around 17 to 20 wearing cool Jeans playing Guitar, Violin or Piano or singing songs, They looked like rock stars to us and as kid we though may be all former Jews after seeing how awesome the Christians were had already converted. c) We used to believe the term Moral or Good had to have come only because Christianity was around.
He meant a century ago, that may be the sentiment in some way or other.
By the way i have seen some Christian saying this and some critical things together.
Don't take all negative comments seriously 😂😂. Also don't read all comments, just read the top liked ones.
Even in something like a cooking vlog, you can't have without some percentage of people cussing at the video.
When the topic is something as sensitive as politics or religion There is bound to be conflict 😄
Madarsachaap???
Why not. Does other comments don't matter?
Its in historical context, how it played out when events occur in that manner, first the religious governing body clear hand and label them and then as time passess it, s for crediting, and sentiments would be carried more by those only who pay price for it, in this case the jews
That's the majority percentage of hindus
This fiery serpent whom Moses made Israelites worship was given the name Nahushtan. Interestingly the word Nahusha is also available in Mahabharata, where one of the ancestors of the Pandava brothers had the name Nahusha, he was a great king and he performed many great fire ceremonies and rituals known as Ashwamedha Yagna and because of that, he had been made king of Lord Indra's heaven. But because of his mistake, he received a curse from Sage Agastya, and because of that he fell on the earth and turned into a big Python. So we find here the similarity between the word Nehushtan - ( in Hindi the meaning of this Nahushtan is Nahusha - the name of the person and Tan - Sthan the place of residence, so Nehushtan means the place of residence of Nahusha.) -------
nice video as always .gud to hear about ur point. can understand not easy for u to grasp Indian culture just like me understanding europe culture lol. cultural difference take time to learn , always possible u and me diff. views , opinions etc. have a nice day . 12k waiting for u 😁😁😁
😂😂 simpp. There is data and there is bulshit. U can have 1-2 % hare and there but denying and telling we listen bulshit.
Yes, there is a long history of antisemitism in Germany, and the accusation that Jews killed Jesus is one of the oldest and most harmful antisemitic tropes. This accusation has been used to justify persecution against Jewish people for centuries, and it continues to be used today by antisemites and white supremacists.
The accusation that Jews killed Jesus is based on a misunderstanding of the Gospels, which are the four canonical books of the New Testament. In the Gospels, the Jewish leaders of the time are portrayed as being opposed to Jesus and his teachings. However, it is important to remember that the Gospels were written by early Christians, who were often hostile to Judaism. These writings should not be taken as an accurate historical record of what happened.
The truth is that the Roman authorities were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus. The Romans were the occupying power in Judea at the time, and they had a long history of crucifying criminals. There is no evidence that the Jewish people played any role in Jesus' death.
The accusation that Jews killed Jesus has been used to justify some of the worst atrocities in history, including the Holocaust. It is important to remember that this accusation is a lie, and that it has no basis in reality.
He wasn't talking about modern times he's talking about Christendom.. why do you think jews were targeted through thousands of riots and massacres? Whether it's the riots before crusades or the holocaust? What's the basis of such special hatred for Jews ? Its referred to as the "Jewish deicide" .. please look it up as you are not aware that it is an important part of Christian history and insightment of violence against the Jew.
I can personally tell you I never come across it. I will check it out, I know they were disliked but never understood what the problem was but I understood it was more because of their financial dealings they were not liked rather than anything else.
@@zuzanareacts financial dealings are definitely a part of it but the crusaders riots were definitely religiously motivated, so we're many of the pogroms. At the end of the day I think it's an amalgamation of political, religious, xenophobic and jealousy issues as well .. millions massacred goes beyond "disliked" don't you think? There are deeper motivations is my point.
I don't really know what any deep motivations are sadly
The end of the Ottoman caliphate corresponded with the period when almost the entire Muslim world came under Western colonial rule(Indonesia,Malaysia, India, Egypt, Libya, Morocco Tunisia Iraq Syria Transjordan etc) . The centers of Islamic powers Istanbul, Baghdad, Cairo,Damascus again all under control of Western powersThe British Foreign Minister Lord Curzon addressing the British Prime Minister shortly before the Second World War. He stated,
“We must put an end to anything which brings about any Islamic unity between the sons of the Muslims. As we have already succeeded in finishing off the Khilafah so we must endure that there will never arise again unity for the Muslims whether it be intellectual or cultural unity
Islam. But this was no coincidence. The abolishment of the Caliphate had been pre-mediated and was an imperialist agenda in the making. Strategies and secret meetings had been ongoing for years and a plan had been hatched to bring down the Ottoman Empire along with its leadership and role as the uniting beacon of all Islamic countries and communities around the globe.
So true 👍
If u have such a broadness in thoughts nd can understand nd can even make other understand ur thought, why do u hate the others perception or thoughts that dont agree to urs. He mentioned the books nd things from where he come to know nd by far in whole of this bla bla u never mentioned or given any things(texts/references) like he did to prove him wrong. This is simple that u got hurt listening something bad about ur religion nd start commenting nd giving lectures. I m not saying he is right or what ever he said is true no it might be not but so r u. No one asked u to make videos on India or Indians there is a whole world out there or ur pretty Europe, but u can not pass comments on our issues nd thoughts i.e. how india should deal or do or teach us ur European way. Now show ur maturity nd take it with ease, lets see how understanding ur. I m not saying u to stop watching nd learning about India, but if u really want to, than please learn to have patience first nd throw away ur European way of thinking nd judging things instead go with the flow, start with very basics, with no pre-emptive european thoughts, just take it till u get it. I usually dont watch ur videos but i have seen few(2or3) u were judging nd taking it all wrong in those. Its an advise do learn off the videos atleast some of our history nd try to get our perception. Dont make videos to teach us.
see this is exactly what I was trying to explain in the video - your comment is a pinnacle of an example of what I was trying to make you guys. But I think I'm losing in the perception game - your comments affirm that people simply don't listen or are willing to see other people's perspectives but I'm sorry to say - no disrespect - completely wrong. I'm trying to explain my point of view and make you see what you perceive and believe is not true - but hey - I think I have to let go of this - people will believe what they want to believe with conviction even if it's false. It's ok - it's a very valuable learning for me. Peace :)
@@zuzanareacts First its good to see ur response.
Second) ur an example too of those people who get easily mislead nd misjudge others.
Third) i m only listening to u nd thats why i m disagreeing of ur thoughts nd i respect ur thoughts u have all the rights to correct anyone who speaks wrong about ur religion.
And i m also saying the same thing listen to someone else's perspective. Nd dont mark my word dont think listening to just one person, that everyone follows or thinks the same way. He has his own perspective, of which u dont agree too(but u didnt give any facts to support ur thought), nd i dont agree to urs that every indian thinks the same way like he is. U can comment or judge but ur thoughts must have atleast some little insight/knowledge about our history. U just judge us through videos, that any random guy on youtube can make. I simply just asked u to give a little time to atleast know about us, about our culture before just jumping on to conclusion, i.e .based on some random guy video plus ur european thought. I think i have made myself clear, rest is on u,( people will believe what they want to believe with conviction even if it's false🤣). U could have taken my previous comment as a Valuable feed back bcos in that i just asked u to learn before judging, instead u try to portrary urself right saying that example thing. But open up, ur learning about something totally different culture, if u keep up with ur old thoughts nd perception, sorry to say, u'll find only problems nd not knowledge nd i dont know ur motive. So happy to have ur comment....peace with love.😀
Well ma'am, if you don't like my comment, you can ignore, but i have no ill intent while i am writing this comment so please take this comment in a very netural way. The guy abhjit here is a geopolitics expert and he also has a lot of knowledge about history. He is also an atheist so he looks at religion in a very secular way. We all need to accept that all religions were created by man , be it hindusim or Christianity and yes it is true in a pre industrial medevial Europe it did happen, and whatever Abhijit said is historically true , so please don't hate the true but it is the dark side of Christianity which was there in Europe in one point of time.
P.S keep up the good work of trying learn about different perspectives and being open to knowledge, wishing you all the best.
Just to be super clear, I'm well aware of what Christianity did this is why I'm spiritual.
@@zuzanareacts But how does it leads you to the conclusion that anti semitism is not real
Hinduism is not created by any man , challenging you proof this ,tell me the founder of Hinduism,the holy saraswati which was dried 9000 years ago that mentioned in rig veda,every religion has founder but Hinduism has no founder or exact date of origin then how can you say that it's man made
Then what was the controversy surrounding passion of the Christ movie? 😅 do your Google search. AIM is talking about the historical atitude of a lot of Christians before ww2. After ww2 there are strict laws preventing antisemitism in Europe and there is a general consensus in western society that such things are not nice to utter.
You can still hear it if you go to darker corners of internet or listen to people like Kanye west.
You born in 80s or 90s will obviously will never see any of those historical incidents in day to day life. You have read history books to learn about it.
that why i watch your video so that u can give your point of view according to christian european angle. (good or bad)
.. i hope best of Good❤