Both are legal, so instead of working over and beyond in one job dreaming about getting raise someday, just take another job and make the extra yourself. 😁
if employers are worried about employees having a 2nd job then they should start paying salaries that reflect that instead of trying to lowball employees and expecting them to only have the one job
@@kavishwarmokal124 Sure, my assistants do majority of the leg work. Contract bargaining is different to salaries. I set my own hours, but still kiss ass at times. Anyone can try to sell a book, point is who wants to read about you? Enough free info, you want to moonlight without using company property. That includes intellectual property, hard to stop you. Just do not tell. You steal i sue...........
That is the CEOs are the policy makers of the company. It is not from the Govt. but from the Employers these conditions of conflict of interest, Non Disclosure clauses comes. These CEOs are not doing any illegal thing in second income as they dont have any policies on them unlike employees.
A person has one life & limited number of years as a working adult. To invest it & restrict one's learning n earning to just one Company at a time doesn't seem right
The manufacturing mindset that reeked of feudal era belonged upto the 1980s. Since 1990s work places & work needs are changing . Covid just accelerated the process
@@dwadedunkedkobe employers will hire someone from outside with 1hr interview but won't hike existing employees who work hard. There is a reason why people choose to get 2nd job than waiting for hike. Bare minimum to keep the job.
Most of the employees in India are moonlighting only for their one and only employer with no extra benefit. No overtime wages on work done at home. The employers are overloading the existing workforce so that they take home part of their daily work. This is the ground reality. Most of the employees are left with literally no time for moonlighting for others.
Not entirely true. Many of my friends have taken up second job mostly as consultant. You got to grow spine to say NO to working overtime. IT in india is booming and companies are finding hard to hold on to their employees, employees have too many options thats why resignation rate is so high.
The HR was trying to take action on my colleague, who worked in his ancestral fields on the weekend, saying that it was against the moonlighting policy. After many arguments, HR said that if the income reflects in your income tax, it's moonlighting. To which he replied," I have been working in this company for 6 years and longer still in my fields. I am yet to reach the minimum bracket to pay income tax."
moon lighting is the result of imployers refusal to pay a living wage to employees in order to keep up with the cost of living, forcing them to hold down a second and sometimes a third job to get bye, those second and third jobs could have gone to more impoverished able bodies, if living wages were enforced.
True. As freelancer I sometimes take two jobs. Because my work is on computer I can get away. The main reason is because I have a lot of downtime and I need to get all the work I can handle. It’s not optimum but you do what you need to do.
Now, that is a curious case of selective burnouts. When employees were overworking without overtime pay for all these years, there were no burnout concerns from employers !
In India it is made compulsary by all companies to work extra hours. It is expected to do so. Though it is not written, but one who does not put extra hours, will be fired. Moonlighting should be done.
Indian school teachers have been moonlighting for years - job as a teacher and tuitions in the evening, although it's considered illegal in many countries.
*Indians literally INVENTED moonlighting* before it was even a word ! Every Indian Govt DOCTOR has a private practice; every TEACHER gives private tuition, every Public PROSECUTOR has own Law firms .... Hell even Indian MINISTERS moonlight (so many MPs do private businesses or legal or medical practice)... even BEGGARS in India moonlight: blind during the day - disabled at night!
@@taka-taktak 90% of teachers in india insists there students in school to join his/her tution for better marks or whatever is the case, School teacher= tution teacher.
It's India's employer mentality of considering employee as bonded labour, not providing overtime compensation which draft the rules and terms fit favourable for them. If per hour minimum wage concept applied in India , people don't need to think of moonlighting, but government/politicians don't let that happen since funding for their political parties from corporate will cease.
The question also exists as to whether it is ethical to underpay and employee. Employers want to hold their employees to ethics. What about employers being ethical?
To learn n earn & live a better life + ensure your next generation does better that's necessary . A person has just limited number of years as a working adult
IT service based companies are paying 3-4 lakhs CTC for juniors. How can these folks survive in cities with such low salary ??? Please rectify these kind of disparities first. Too much of exploitation in the name of giving opportunity.
That's correct to say why not go for evening job in India. My college professor was actually taking tuitions till 10 pm. I followed the same clue, to pay my kids education in Delhi.
I don’t even know why this is a problem? Foreign countries always had this it was never a problem. Under productive employee will always do so, if they have a second job or not.
Fascinating that people in any sector of India are prevented from having second jobs. I feel sorry for the factory workers if they're underpaid and can't afford to live from a single salary. Moonlighting absolutely shouldn't be prevented, unless there's some form of conflict of interest.
In most cases, low wages explain moonlighting. There is hardly any law to protect the employee. The corrupt government allows employers to make a mockery of remuneration.
In IT companies there will be deadline usually. No matter what you will do u should complete the work within the deadline. After that anyone can do anything, i think its not offence. Company laptops usually cant be used to such type of workings bcz of policies applied on the laptops
When companies have right to work with multiple clients at the same time then why not employees have the right to work with multiple clients at the same time. Anyway Indian IT companies, specially Indian IT companies have been exploiting people for a very very long time it’s time we tell them who is the boss. Employees need to make sure that they find a second job outside and should work because renumeration in India is so so low that you don’t save anything at the end of the month. But property prices are almost at par with Western countries, specially in cities like Mumbai Delhi Bangalore et cetera. But salaries are still one third or one fourth of what US employees get so what should we do, How do we as employee survive and at least save something? And this problem exist at the bottom of the employee pyramid higher level employees like CTO and CXO band people are almost equal to US level. So if companies can come forward and resolve this issue than moonlighting will not happen but if they just want to preach about it is being unethical and all that shit nobody is going to listen. Frankly speaking Palki has got it wrong again, she’s basically speaking from the side of the employer not employee. This was her second attempt and she again got it wrong. Many IT companies like EClerx do not offer nightshift allowance or late shift allowance so they have been exploiting people for a very long time.
Instead of policies for junior and mid level staff first they make policies for CEO, CTO etc who have multiple companies why don't they work for only one company, why don't they get same hike as their employees. Even conflict of interest shouldn't be an issue only data breach is valid reason and if you allow your employee to work he will never do any data breach, ow he or she may do. Also, most of the time developers work with dev environment not so very confidential data
What about working for the same employer for twice the hours and demand double salary ?? This also means treating the same employee as 2 workslot instead of 1. So double the benefits , double the hike. Problem is 1 day leave would be essentially 2 day leave etc...
Are the employers themselves sincere? In India is salary adjusted as per inflation as in US or Japan? Do companies not sacked people to safeguard their own future?
what makes you think USA adjust salary with inflation? they don't.. in India, govt employee get salary adjusted with inflation every 6 months, its called dearness allowance and in private sector raises are most times way higher than inflation except some sectors.
Well I really don't want to comment on Moonlighting but Indian law is vague when it comes to IT work force. This group of people is just ignored and few of them leave India for good.
World economic crisis and high inflation have left people with limited income but high expenses, hence people will try to earn more in as many ways as possible, corporates and govts must understand this, empathize with the employees and encourage it as well.
As long as you don't work for the competitors, not disclose confidential information, if you let your current employer know, if the employment contract does not expressly prohibit there is nothing wrong with it.
Even working for competitors should be allowed. Why would I go and sell snacks if I'm good with programming skills and I know it will provide me best income. Obviously if I'm doing second job I'll do something in which I'm best
Only thing is we shouldn't breach or leak any confidential information. Anyway we don't work on daily basis with confidential information if we are allowed to work part time no one will do such thing
I do not know why it is debatable. Employees work 2 jobs because they cannot secure a roof over their head and put food on their table with only 1 job!
So many MP's continue to work on other opportunities. For Ex. Gautam Gambhir is currently working as commentator in the Asia Cup and is also the coach for IPL team Lucknow super giants. There are many more besides him.
One man cannot serve two masters.. In India Government Doctors work in Government hospitals at the same time they run private clinics… neglecting works a government hospitals this should be banned
I work as an engineer but i feel we humans can do multiple things and thats why i also started youtube channel although i dont have enough subscribers but i have the hope to grow and every single person must have the same hope. I hope every indian brother and sisters must grow and never give up. Every single person reading my comment must grow... all the best
In America a lot of people pick up extra hours to make the extra income to pay their bills. If a company does not want it's employees to take up extra hours elsewhere, then that company should pay their employees more. I know people who work 8 hours a day in their permanent job and drive Uber as part-time. There shouldn't be any laws against it. People do it for survival.
Here civil engineer have to start with 10k salary as most of the company ask for experience. Even with experience salary is not good. Obviously he will do multiple jobs
As an Engineer that started working recently like 2 weeks ago and with so less salary its heart breaking to know that even if you want to work you can't
I'd rather live in a cardboard box then waste my entire life working two jobs. 40 hours/week is already wasting too much of my life. The standard should be 25-30hrs max for everyone.
Moonlighting/part-time working is for the smart employees who wish to "make hay while the sun shines" and invest financially for the Sunset years!! No rules c"n be formulated in discouraging it as long as the work done is not a challenge for the daytime job. The only way to discourage this trend is for the employer to keep increasing the pay package to retain and promote result-oriented employees. Otherwise, they will anyway seek "greener pastures" and could work in rival companies and be a threat to your business success. One thing you conveniently left out is regarding female employees resorting to prostitution after work hours and even earn much more than their daytime jobs. This is a very common sideline for women from the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, HongKong, etc.Isnt this also moonlighting/part-time?
good analysis with perspective from both sides, except following catches : 1) Factories Act 1948 is for workers safety and hence was applied on factory workers wherein the physical overwork at multiple places can jeopardize their life. This act also regulates strict working hours and safety standards. Factory job is well timed - infact in large factories still there is a siren regulating their strict hours including lunch hours. In law the intent of the law if primary and wording secondary. Anyhow, the Factories Act is now subsumed in Occupational Safety, Health and Working Conditions Code 2020. An IT job is not normally physically precarious, and IT job has also been kept out of the purview of the Factories Act - which has been mainly due to the efforts of the IT employers like Infosys, Wipro, TCS, tech Mahindra, Satyam Computers, etc so that they can be kept out of the strict regulations promulgated by the Fcatories Act. Now, when they (employers) vie support from Factories Act to defend their stance against moonlighting its double standards and hypocricy. 2) 2) Clause in the contract restricting the employement to only one employer and Non-Compete Clause, each of them individually violate Article 19(1)(g) of the Constitution and Section 27 of the Indian Contract Act, and are void ab-initio. What it means is that these clauses even if present in the contract are held to be non-existent, so cannot be breached at all since they are held not to exist at first place. Law strictly prohibits contracting out of law - section 24 of the Indian Contract Act. Hence, in each litigation between employer and employee they have been stuck down by the High Courts (HCs) and the Supreme Court (SC) of India. Note that the judgement of the SC forms teh common law in the country. In the “context of this debate”, the exception which SC has allowed is for high positions, where Non-Compete has been upheld but with restrictions liek duration of not more than 1-2 years, limit to very niche industry segment and so on. Moreover, during this period, the employer enforcing non-compete has to pay full-scale salary to the employee on whom it is being enforced. 3) Non-Solicitation clause has however been universally upheld to protect employer. 4) Now the ethical part: if the work assignment doesn't result in Conflict of Interest (CoI), does not hamper the productivity of the employee (in working hours - not w.r.t to "expected" 12-18 hours a day 6-7 days a week by the managers), and employee complies with Non-Disclosure (NDA) and Non-Solicitation (NSA), it is ethical. If employee's productivity comes down in routine work hours then its unethical, and for other CoI-NDA-NSA violation its illegal and employer can sue the employee to recover damages. Much of the debate resulted from ignorance of the law worsened by the arrogance, corruption and incompetence of the HR and Senior Mangers like Mr. Rishad Premji.
In India unemployment is largely a political debate & issue. Common people just get influenced by whoever ...whatever makes the most noise. What Unemployment truly is , is dependent on multiple factors which is overlooked in all the political noise. Baseline, massive reforms in the Educational system are needed to address unemployment at its root cause
@@aosaeanor correct.. I recently moved to india with my friend and we both got job in Vadodara in my home state… here people don’t want to learn practical things and wants high salary jobs
A company promoting moonlighting will be considered a better place to work. Can attract better potential employees. After all it's about being efficient and productive at the same time.
Moonlight jobs. It was earlier known as part time job. As per CCS conduct rules,1964, a govt employee is not allowed to run a private business neither he is allowed to work anywhere else as a part time or full time employee. Violation of these rules will attract punishment as per rules. Negative side: Conflict of interest, Chances of breach of confidentiality, skip his table and attend the second job, Doing works of the other manager in the office, And office work is distributed one or two colleagues and fix a pay to them and skip office for the entire day. Try to satisfy officers by many ways and means increase the trend of sychophancy. I don't aware of rules available in private organisation in this regard. Having said it, I must say that some employees are getting low remuneration can be allowed to this provision in order to mitigate their financial situation.
Some walk by night Some fly by day Nothing could change you Set and sure of the way There is the sun and moon They sing their own sweet tune Watch them when dawn is due Sharing one space We'll walk by night We'll fly by day Moonlighting strangers Who just met on the way
Once we done with the 8 hrs of work in company, after we can do whatever we want to do with our time, no-one here have a rights to rise a questions about it. 💯
Really? I am working almost 12-15 hrs in my full time job for past 2 years,so how is that ethical? These people are very ungrateful they never mentioned that the most of the people are working more hours for them. For 2 straight years nobody received any kind of appraisal. Was it fair? These people just need excuses create controversies.
So it is legal to make employees work for two people in a single salary, but illegal for one person to work two jobs? That sounds fair!
Both are legal, so instead of working over and beyond in one job dreaming about getting raise someday, just take another job and make the extra yourself. 😁
@@reeti5958 no you can't work 2 jobs not even freelancing
@@meghanarora4136 this video just said that you can...
meghan sounds like my hr!!
@@meghanarora4136 your from HR dept?
if employers are worried about employees having a 2nd job then they should start paying salaries that reflect that instead of trying to lowball employees and expecting them to only have the one job
no!🤦♂️🤭
Exactly 🔥
Do hell with ethics
Absolutely!
Exactly
Ethical or not i don't give a damn. Ethics will not pay my bills. I have 2 jobs. I am productive.
It has nothing to do with ethics
agree
😂😂😂
If companies won't have ethics, why should I?
Same here
CEOs write books, give speeches and act as board directors of multiple companies. When the highly CEOs can do it then why shouldn't employees.
Exactly ! It's million (or say billion) dollar question/slap 👋👋
Perfect question. Hope some CEO or director can answer it.
@@kavishwarmokal124 Sure, my assistants do majority of the leg work. Contract bargaining is different to salaries. I set my own hours, but still kiss ass at times. Anyone can try to sell a book, point is who wants to read about you?
Enough free info, you want to moonlight without using company property. That includes intellectual property, hard to stop you. Just do not tell. You steal i sue...........
That's CAPITALISM - Management Vs Employees : Management is always Right ..! ✅
Live it OR Leave it 😁
That is the CEOs are the policy makers of the company. It is not from the Govt. but from the Employers these conditions of conflict of interest, Non Disclosure clauses comes. These CEOs are not doing any illegal thing in second income as they dont have any policies on them unlike employees.
Its become a necessity to have a second job. Cost of living has significantly increased but wages have not.
A person has one life & limited number of years as a working adult. To invest it & restrict one's learning n earning to just one Company at a time doesn't seem right
Get out of the city
Employers can fire anyone at anytime so why not moonlight?
Micromanaging is a past. Assign the task and let person do his work.
The manufacturing mindset that reeked of feudal era belonged upto the 1980s. Since 1990s work places & work needs are changing . Covid just accelerated the process
Find a Union job !
@@aosaeanor manufacturing mindset sector always had good life balance. And social life without spending in pubs
Employers should just start embracing this to attract higher quality talent.
@@dwadedunkedkobe employers will hire someone from outside with 1hr interview but won't hike existing employees who work hard. There is a reason why people choose to get 2nd job than waiting for hike. Bare minimum to keep the job.
Here in India IT sector employees are treated as slaves 😡😡😡
it depends on where u work
Boss... IT people have huge salaries.... obviously they should be slog like dog 🐕.... they just enjoy without any work....
@@amitpadhye7509 what abt the govt employees. 🤔🤔🤔 Perhaps you should take a look at their salaries also....sab k sab kaamchor baithe hai
@@trexleo19 100 % agreed... I am angry about their pension like Rs 40000 a month....
Well, you ARE! That’s the life you chose and what your parents wanted you to be. Sad, but true.
Makes sense totally, considering the economic situation.
Most of the employees in India are moonlighting only for their one and only employer with no extra benefit. No overtime wages on work done at home.
The employers are overloading the existing workforce so that they take home part of their daily work. This is the ground reality. Most of the employees are left with literally no time for moonlighting for others.
🤔 That is so nice. The rich man loves us 🥲
True
Not entirely true. Many of my friends have taken up second job mostly as consultant. You got to grow spine to say NO to working overtime. IT in india is booming and companies are finding hard to hold on to their employees, employees have too many options thats why resignation rate is so high.
absolutely. if they could that's their choice who is anybody to talk about it .didn't we allowed part time jobs in colleges.
The HR was trying to take action on my colleague, who worked in his ancestral fields on the weekend, saying that it was against the moonlighting policy. After many arguments, HR said that if the income reflects in your income tax, it's moonlighting. To which he replied," I have been working in this company for 6 years and longer still in my fields. I am yet to reach the minimum bracket to pay income tax."
moon lighting is the result of imployers refusal to pay a living wage to employees in order to keep up with the cost of living, forcing them to hold down a second and sometimes a third job to get bye, those second and third jobs could have gone to more impoverished able bodies, if living wages were enforced.
Yes precisely! It will backfire eventually.
Hard agree!
It must be legalised, it’s absolutely fine if one can do both the jobs properly.
As long it is not illegal it is legal
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@@BharadwajMarri *Zero* enters the chat
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@@user-fp7ug6ye9f zero is even bruh!
It shouldn't matter. Your time is yours. They don't own your time unless they want to pay you for 24/7.
True. Employees opt for employment and not for the slavery.
This is so funny! We don't have moonlight in the USA, it's call surviving
Find a union job & support union companies in US! God bless!
@@Davido50 so true but those jobs are not so easy to get
True. As freelancer I sometimes take two jobs. Because my work is on computer I can get away.
The main reason is because I have a lot of downtime and I need to get all the work I can handle. It’s not optimum but you do what you need to do.
People are rich in the US... Moonlighing should not be there in US and Europe... They are bloody rich people...
Now, that is a curious case of selective burnouts. When employees were overworking without overtime pay for all these years, there were no burnout concerns from employers !
According to that each working women is doing moonlighting because they are handling house and earning money to
Today's world men & women share the responsibility of taking care of home & children. And both work & earn .
Then don't work. Simple
@@flexyourstyle9136 can’t say that, you need to earn money so you gotta work.
@@aosaeanor men and women can't never be equal until women also gets dick and same avg height as men.
@@flexyourstyle9136 and who will pay the bills then? Genie from Aladdin? 😂😂
In India it is made compulsary by all companies to work extra hours.
It is expected to do so. Though it is not written, but one who does not put extra hours, will be fired.
Moonlighting should be done.
Indian school teachers have been moonlighting for years - job as a teacher and tuitions in the evening, although it's considered illegal in many countries.
*Indians literally INVENTED moonlighting* before it was even a word !
Every Indian Govt DOCTOR has a private practice; every TEACHER gives private tuition, every Public PROSECUTOR has own Law firms ....
Hell even Indian MINISTERS moonlight (so many MPs do private businesses or legal or medical practice)... even BEGGARS in India moonlight: blind during the day - disabled at night!
It is not wrong as long as the teacher is teaching well in school and not manipulating school students to attend their tutions.
@@taka-taktak 90% of teachers in india insists there students in school to join his/her tution for better marks or whatever is the case, School teacher= tution teacher.
The employers, specially Indian IT companies should be explained by someone that slavery is a crime in most of the countries now.
My x-GF wanted many BFs, Only Loyal to Her Only 24x7 🤣😂.. L😇L Attitude ...😉
It's India's employer mentality of considering employee as bonded labour, not providing overtime compensation which draft the rules and terms fit favourable for them.
If per hour minimum wage concept applied in India , people don't need to think of moonlighting, but government/politicians don't let that happen since funding for their political parties from corporate will cease.
Perfect comment. Every single second spent after working hours is slavery. Coz, nowdays nobody sits without doing work during working hours.
And it starts, with the similar treatment of the maid who does chores at homes. Probably, this is the way Indian culture has been.
Correct it: *Bonded Labour* to 24x7 hr SLAVE ..!?
The question also exists as to whether it is ethical to underpay and employee. Employers want to hold their employees to ethics. What about employers being ethical?
True'
I have been moonlighting since 2019 after coming to Canada as a student.
IT paying peanut like salaries and hoping not to moonlight 🙂
We moonlighted for almost 4 years in order to learn and implement new tech, with no frill at all.
in a simple words a person is doing two jobs..... 9to5 then 5to2am ..... Many doing for extra income
To learn n earn & live a better life + ensure your next generation does better that's necessary . A person has just limited number of years as a working adult
IT service based companies are paying 3-4 lakhs CTC for juniors. How can these folks survive in cities with such low salary ??? Please rectify these kind of disparities first. Too much of exploitation in the name of giving opportunity.
That less when technology Jobs are based in larger cities where cost of living is high. Infact most better paying jobs are based in big cities
Build ur own company 🤣🤣🤣
@@amoghrajput4708 That's the best way. Whatever the struggles , it's worth it.
That's correct to say why not go for evening job in India. My college professor was actually taking tuitions till 10 pm. I followed the same clue, to pay my kids education in Delhi.
I don’t even know why this is a problem? Foreign countries always had this it was never a problem. Under productive employee will always do so, if they have a second job or not.
Companies having highest revenues and pays lowest salaries by industry standard and calls out "ethics". Ever heard of the term called "Hypocrisy"
Fascinating that people in any sector of India are prevented from having second jobs. I feel sorry for the factory workers if they're underpaid and can't afford to live from a single salary.
Moonlighting absolutely shouldn't be prevented, unless there's some form of conflict of interest.
In my company we hire medical under writers as moonlighters to tackle volume of business but we dont need them as full timers...
Michael Scott wasn't allowed to moonlight as telephone-salesman
What about moonlighting by politicians? Who regulates them?
In most cases, low wages explain moonlighting. There is hardly any law to protect the employee. The corrupt government allows employers to make a mockery of remuneration.
In IT companies there will be deadline usually. No matter what you will do u should complete the work within the deadline.
After that anyone can do anything, i think its not offence.
Company laptops usually cant be used to such type of workings bcz of policies applied on the laptops
Companies never love employees.
I support moonlighting ❤️
When companies have right to work with multiple clients at the same time then why not employees have the right to work with multiple clients at the same time. Anyway Indian IT companies, specially Indian IT companies have been exploiting people for a very very long time it’s time we tell them who is the boss. Employees need to make sure that they find a second job outside and should work because renumeration in India is so so low that you don’t save anything at the end of the month. But property prices are almost at par with Western countries, specially in cities like Mumbai Delhi Bangalore et cetera. But salaries are still one third or one fourth of what US employees get so what should we do, How do we as employee survive and at least save something? And this problem exist at the bottom of the employee pyramid higher level employees like CTO and CXO band people are almost equal to US level. So if companies can come forward and resolve this issue than moonlighting will not happen but if they just want to preach about it is being unethical and all that shit nobody is going to listen. Frankly speaking Palki has got it wrong again, she’s basically speaking from the side of the employer not employee. This was her second attempt and she again got it wrong. Many IT companies like EClerx do not offer nightshift allowance or late shift allowance so they have been exploiting people for a very long time.
Not generally, they are actually underpaid, so low that even a driver earns more than a qualified engineer!
If you're giving 💯 percent to your current employer and doing what you're supposed to do there's none of their business
Overtime without pay is also cheating and unethical
Instead of policies for junior and mid level staff first they make policies for CEO, CTO etc who have multiple companies why don't they work for only one company, why don't they get same hike as their employees. Even conflict of interest shouldn't be an issue only data breach is valid reason and if you allow your employee to work he will never do any data breach, ow he or she may do. Also, most of the time developers work with dev environment not so very confidential data
What about working for the same employer for twice the hours and demand double salary ??
This also means treating the same employee as 2 workslot instead of 1. So double the benefits , double the hike. Problem is 1 day leave would be essentially 2 day leave etc...
Are the employers themselves sincere? In India is salary adjusted as per inflation as in US or Japan? Do companies not sacked people to safeguard their own future?
what makes you think USA adjust salary with inflation? they don't.. in India, govt employee get salary adjusted with inflation every 6 months, its called dearness allowance and in private sector raises are most times way higher than inflation except some sectors.
@@riteshgupta4002 in present scenario there is no sector that can beat inflation buddy
@@psaimurlidhar115 then I believe you are not familiar with salaries in tech, finance and most other sectors.
You can't keep employees slaves.Change laws.When salary is low,and no ethics is in play. Only when employees are out to make money,all ethics come.
Or pay employee enough that they don't have to moonlight. Just kidding! Never going to happen.
Clarification: It is illegal to work ONLY 2 jobs in India. Mandatory 3 places of employment! So sad
Many people do more than one job in the US.
Well I really don't want to comment on Moonlighting but Indian law is vague when it comes to IT work force. This group of people is just ignored and few of them leave India for good.
In all sectors, that's why there is continuous brain drain in India.
I was searching for this topic. Thanks you brought this out 👍
Illegal in India, company will fire you for that.
World economic crisis and high inflation have left people with limited income but high expenses, hence people will try to earn more in as many ways as possible, corporates and govts must understand this, empathize with the employees and encourage it as well.
9 to 5 in India is only a name sake thing. Even if we leave by 6 they ask why leaving earlier in Big4s
@2:06 Fever 🤒
As long as you don't work for the competitors, not disclose confidential information, if you let your current employer know, if the employment contract does not expressly prohibit there is nothing wrong with it.
Even working for competitors should be allowed. Why would I go and sell snacks if I'm good with programming skills and I know it will provide me best income. Obviously if I'm doing second job I'll do something in which I'm best
Only thing is we shouldn't breach or leak any confidential information. Anyway we don't work on daily basis with confidential information if we are allowed to work part time no one will do such thing
I do not know why it is debatable. Employees work 2 jobs because they cannot secure a roof over their head and put food on their table with only 1 job!
So many MP's continue to work on other opportunities. For Ex. Gautam Gambhir is currently working as commentator in the Asia Cup and is also the coach for IPL team Lucknow super giants. There are many more besides him.
Moonlighting occurs due to helplessness due to major financial issues.. Passion is the last reason for working after your regular job
One man cannot serve two masters..
In India Government Doctors work in Government hospitals at the same time they run private clinics… neglecting works a government hospitals this should be banned
I work as an engineer but i feel we humans can do multiple things and thats why i also started youtube channel although i dont have enough subscribers but i have the hope to grow and every single person must have the same hope. I hope every indian brother and sisters must grow and never give up. Every single person reading my comment must grow... all the best
I still remember my school teacher was doing moonlight job😂😂😂 tution after school.
In America a lot of people pick up extra hours to make the extra income to pay their bills. If a company does not want it's employees to take up extra hours elsewhere, then that company should pay their employees more. I know people who work 8 hours a day in their permanent job and drive Uber as part-time. There shouldn't be any laws against it. People do it for survival.
Here civil engineer have to start with 10k salary as most of the company ask for experience. Even with experience salary is not good.
Obviously he will do multiple jobs
That's right ...moon lightening is not wrong..financial stability isbutmost important ,and also simultaneously learning new things 👏
As an Engineer that started working recently like 2 weeks ago and with so less salary its heart breaking to know that even if you want to work you can't
Moonlighting is definitely great!! Infact in same company, employees can take some projects and earn extra...
I'd rather live in a cardboard box then waste my entire life working two jobs. 40 hours/week is already wasting too much of my life. The standard should be 25-30hrs max for everyone.
2 jobs 🤣🤣.
People r not able to find 1. Many lost their 1 and only Job and we are debating about moonlighting 🤣🤣
Employer(founder) can be a board member of multiple companies, can be a guest lecturer in university but employees can not do anything outside
Moonlighting/part-time working is for the smart employees who wish to "make hay while the sun shines" and invest financially for the Sunset years!! No rules c"n be formulated in discouraging it as long as the work done is not a challenge for the daytime job.
The only way to discourage this trend is for the employer to keep increasing the pay package to retain and promote result-oriented employees. Otherwise, they will anyway seek "greener pastures" and could work in rival companies and be a threat to your business success.
One thing you conveniently left out is regarding female employees resorting to prostitution after work hours and even earn much more than their daytime jobs.
This is a very common sideline for women from the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, HongKong, etc.Isnt this also moonlighting/part-time?
If you are abel to do 10 jobs then do it but don’t ditch your primary job
good analysis with perspective from both sides, except following catches :
1) Factories Act 1948 is for workers safety and hence was applied on factory workers wherein the physical overwork at multiple places can jeopardize their life. This act also regulates strict working hours and safety standards. Factory job is well timed - infact in large factories still there is a siren regulating their strict hours including lunch hours. In law the intent of the law if primary and wording secondary. Anyhow, the Factories Act is now subsumed in Occupational Safety, Health and Working Conditions Code 2020.
An IT job is not normally physically precarious, and IT job has also been kept out of the purview of the Factories Act - which has been mainly due to the efforts of the IT employers like Infosys, Wipro, TCS, tech Mahindra, Satyam Computers, etc so that they can be kept out of the strict regulations promulgated by the Fcatories Act.
Now, when they (employers) vie support from Factories Act to defend their stance against moonlighting its double standards and hypocricy.
2) 2) Clause in the contract restricting the employement to only one employer and Non-Compete Clause, each of them individually violate Article 19(1)(g) of the Constitution and Section 27 of the Indian Contract Act, and are void ab-initio. What it means is that these clauses even if present in the contract are held to be non-existent, so cannot be breached at all since they are held not to exist at first place. Law strictly prohibits contracting out of law - section 24 of the Indian Contract Act.
Hence, in each litigation between employer and employee they have been stuck down by the High Courts (HCs) and the Supreme Court (SC) of India. Note that the judgement of the SC forms teh common law in the country. In the “context of this debate”, the exception which SC has allowed is for high positions, where Non-Compete has been upheld but with restrictions liek duration of not more than 1-2 years, limit to very niche industry segment and so on. Moreover, during this period, the employer enforcing non-compete has to pay full-scale salary to the employee on whom it is being enforced.
3) Non-Solicitation clause has however been universally upheld to protect employer.
4) Now the ethical part: if the work assignment doesn't result in Conflict of Interest (CoI), does not hamper the productivity of the employee (in working hours - not w.r.t to "expected" 12-18 hours a day 6-7 days a week by the managers), and employee complies with Non-Disclosure (NDA) and Non-Solicitation (NSA), it is ethical. If employee's productivity comes down in routine work hours then its unethical, and for other CoI-NDA-NSA violation its illegal and employer can sue the employee to recover damages.
Much of the debate resulted from ignorance of the law worsened by the arrogance, corruption and incompetence of the HR and Senior Mangers like Mr. Rishad Premji.
Why not discuss about unethical 90 days notice period??? Did they ever cared about low salaries, 90 days notice period, no payment for over time
If we give productions hours on quality work, also won't give any incentives and overtime
Good matter, thrown light upon! 👍🏼
Stagflation has led to moonlighting!!
Moonlighting should be legal....
Because these are uncertain times...and economy nowadays is very uncertain.....hence...we must be prepared....
This is huge in the US. Alot of people have what they call a "side hustle."
What's wrong working hard for extra money and learning new skills.
So are member of parliament having jobs as mayors or regional counsellors moonlighting too?
Indian law doesn’t say anything regarding moonlighting because there is nothing such law present
in one job i m already doing more then 2 jobs
Just a joke, Palki's Zomato Swiggy reference is the perfect plotline for a corporate Espionage thriller.
What we do during office hours is a company's job. What I do after that is my job.
Extra income is always the cause for me , do to so many bills and i live in the U.S
USA is expensive to live.
@@johnhoward5954 Yes it is especially with the rise of gas prices and inflation
@@fredrickprice2037 It was always expensive. Higher standard of living itself means more expenses.
@@johnhoward5954 Yes indeed but it's a big problem when the jobs don't want to give us a raise when they know the cost of living is getting higher....
@@fredrickprice2037 Taxation is bit high though. But that 's how it is.
I did 2 jobs at the same time. Domestic and International I was making 28k a month.
I did that too :)
People are planning for 2nd job & opposition is trying to make unemployment a election campaign 😝😝
In India unemployment is largely a political debate & issue. Common people just get influenced by whoever ...whatever makes the most noise. What Unemployment truly is , is dependent on multiple factors which is overlooked in all the political noise. Baseline, massive reforms in the Educational system are needed to address unemployment at its root cause
@@aosaeanor correct.. I recently moved to india with my friend and we both got job in Vadodara in my home state… here people don’t want to learn practical things and wants high salary jobs
Some people are just lazy .
Ppl who just want everything without any effort are cribbing and unfortunately these dumbs are in large quantity .
Many ppl around the world must survive!
A company promoting moonlighting will be considered a better place to work. Can attract better potential employees. After all it's about being efficient and productive at the same time.
how can it be "illegal"
to have greater ambitions.
How many senior people are working as directors in other company?
some people are moonlighting, and many people running jobless. contrasts, contrasts.
Our MPs and Politicians are working in different segments and no one bats an eye
Sometimes different parties too😂
Moonlight jobs.
It was earlier known as part time job. As per CCS conduct rules,1964, a govt employee is not allowed to run a private business neither he is allowed to work anywhere else as a part time or full time employee. Violation of these rules will attract punishment as per rules.
Negative side: Conflict of interest, Chances of breach of confidentiality, skip his table and attend the second job, Doing works of the other manager in the office, And office work is distributed one or two colleagues and fix a pay to them and skip office for the entire day. Try to satisfy officers by many ways and means increase the trend of sychophancy.
I don't aware of rules available in private organisation in this regard.
Having said it, I must say that some employees are getting low remuneration can be allowed to this provision in order to mitigate their financial situation.
If I do that, for me that would be sunlighting? as my job starts in evening shift
😂😂
I was searching for this term by some night worker😂
Some walk by night
Some fly by day
Nothing could change you
Set and sure of the way
There is the sun and moon
They sing their own sweet tune
Watch them when dawn is due
Sharing one space
We'll walk by night
We'll fly by day
Moonlighting strangers
Who just met on the way
Once we done with the 8 hrs of work in company, after we can do whatever we want to do with our time, no-one here have a rights to rise a questions about it. 💯
In covid these companies have forced us to reduce our working hours to cut down salary, was that legal?
Americans have 2, 3 jobs. There’s no issue “moonlighting “ you gotta do what you gotta do..
Legitimate call center by day and a scam call center by night. Even corporate businesses can do a bit of moonlighting.
Why do employers even have a say in what people do after work hours.
Underpaid can never be an argument
Only way is to increase the salary of workers
Really? I am working almost 12-15 hrs in my full time job for past 2 years,so how is that ethical? These people are very ungrateful they never mentioned that the most of the people are working more hours for them. For 2 straight years nobody received any kind of appraisal. Was it fair? These people just need excuses create controversies.