2016 Cadillac ATS-V FIRST DRIVE REVIEW @ Circuit of the Americas
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- MotoMan heads to COTA to drive the 464 HP 2016 Cadillac ATS-V. Old friend of the show & Chief Engineer of Cadillac takes over the tech talk leaving MotoMan to explore driving dynamics - both at Circuit of the Americas and on the back roads of Austin’s Hill Country, obscure bits of this Twin Turbo Cadillac ATS-V as well as A LOT of local Texas flavor . . .
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That BBQ section was amazing!
marc martine Literally, our pleasure . . . we 'ate' our work just after that:)
Looks amazing, genius turbo tech, genius clutch tech, sounds great!
What a choice.im starting to really like the Cadillac sports sedans these days they're getting together and making a nice ride.ya the interior need a little work but for now im liking the ATS.from USA Seattle Washington.
most underrated channel
I love this car, I'm a California native (los Angeles) now living in Alabama- all things being equal I buy American, however this car is exceptional, definitely buying this over the BMW or Mercedes
Love my ATS V. The interior is not as plush as my previous ATS but the attention Cadillac paid to the mechanical aspects more than makes up for it.
I really love how MotoMan points out random details about the interiors. GM infuriates me when it comes to their/Cadillac interiors. WHY would they launch the ATS-V with those terrible gauges? At least put the TFT gauges from the CTS/C7 as standard. It's details like that that make me say Cadillac is still another generation away from being serious competition (outside of performance of course) to it's respectful competitors. Driver's interact most with the interior so it shouldn't have ANY faults IMO. Are they not reverse engineering every car in the segment? The gauges should have been updated with the refresh. SMH
very cool car. I'm old school guy. been working on Hi tech airplanes for the past 40 years. retired now and having a lot of fun with my 58 vette with the OLD SCHOOL fuely system.
Best and most fun car I've ever owned, and I've been owning since I was 14 way back in the summer between 8th and 9th grade.
I've driven this car on the same track and I didn't want to get out. Would have loved to drive the 6pd man.
Great video! I'd pick the ATS-V, but wish they would update the dash to something more classy.
I'd take the caddy. I love the interior and exterior styling. I'm in SoCal.
I purchased this car, it is AMAZING! Blew out my clutch ankle so no manual. The automatic is amazing! The balance is soo incredible.
I plan on keeping my 2017 ATS-V sedan A8 until I die.
It's an awesome car that's so much fun to drive!!
That car is SOOOO SEXYYY in that red. Damn cadi, y'all got some skills.
In almost every other case, I would have turned off the review when it transitioned into a grill/BBQ review. Nope. Not with MotoMan. He made the grilling process interesting. There are many good auto journalists and even a few great ones but he is the best and most entertaining automotive journalist around!!!
I would have to go with the ATS-V. Out of all of the cars in the segment, I actually have driven the ATS with the 2.0 Turbo 4. I thought the ATS with the turbo 4 drove amazingly, so I know the V version must be great. I live in Detroit, Michigan.
I love the color. wows. I really want the ats-v
omg I'm so hungry now...that meat looks delicious.
definitely the ATS-V such a fresh design and its going back the the basics of 6 speed manual and light chassis.
Awesome car reviews and awesome BBQ lol, well done officially my new fav channel!
Totally agree Moto. Needs interior improvements to match the stellar engineering of the moving parts. And digitize the dash gauges, for the love of God, Cadillac!
I've always been a sports car guy (RX7s, RX8, M3, 911) and bought a 2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan in manual. My pick to replace my CTS-V is going to be the ATS-V. It's the perfect size, has such a detailed level of engineering, and a nice balance of design. I also like how the engine has titanium rods and a forged crank. It should be easy and safe to get some more power out of. I plan to go with the sedan in manual. The best thing about owning Cadillac is the repair bills are dirt cheap compared to the Germans. I order my brembo brakes off Amazon Prime via AC Delco for unheard of prices. Love what GM has been able to do for the driving enthusiast. I bought my wife an ATS and she loves it. I wish the interior went about 10% further with fit and finish but overall a very nice place to be with good technology.
jonswiftucf Back in the day I had a second gen RX-7.
the car looks sexy in red.
Absolutely correct with your comment on the quality of the interior. That's true with all American cars, and why the rest of the luxury world doesn't take our top-end cars as a serious threat to the likes of BMW, Mercedes, and the Italian exotics. We make Blue Collar cars that go fast in a straight line. IMO there is a genuine need for a bespoke, handmade american luxury/track car. A true Ferrari/Lambo competitor.
I'll choose the ATS-V because the engine has strong components, the car performance its OVER THE TOP and as Jay Leno said, "ITS A GM YOU CAN FIX IT WITH A HAMMER"
I'd get the C63 from your list of new stuff, but you didn't mention M3/M4. Which I would prefer.
When the new Audi comes out, I'd likely want that - I've been an Audi customer before and I'd like another one. I've driven the A6 with the 3.0T and it's amazing, but too big for me.
Southern CA!
You have some crazy hand gesturing
Dee Jay If MotoMan, like myself, has familial origins from a country in Europe shaped like a boot, it is physically impossible for him to talk without moving his hands.
This is a scientifically proven fact.
Mike V. THANK YOU MIKE V!!!!!!!!! Jeez . . . I was thinking all these people commenting about my talking with my hands has *never* met a person with origins from Southern Europe and/or the Mediterranean (or seen The Godfather) - and yes, it is scientifically proven:)
MotoManTV I used to work with a guy from Brooklyn - mom was Jewish, dad was Italian - and you literally could not stand near him within arms reach, or you would be smacked. :)
Mike V. Poor guy . . . didn't have a chance from birth . . . :)
It's 3am here and now I am starving at the 11:45 mark!!! :o
Cant disagree with MotoMan summary. That said I've been a Range Rover BMW and Audi owner over the last 6 Years. I chose the ATS V. What a great car...drivers car. This car is the bomb for the money and yes the interior needs work. But when your buying a car like this, road feel, looks, power that's what you buy so I did. If they figure out the interior my guess very few people would be able to afford it. MotoMan great job and kudos to Dave and his team of engineers.
I live in Cleveland Ohio. I would choose the Mercedes s63, not just for its performance which is mind blowing, but because I live in a climate that has very harsh winters, the high performance would not be as important as the very luxurious interior. While it would be great to be able to smoke others on the road in the summer, as nd use all of those 500 horses, it would not be a very healthy choice on the ice covered roads in Cleveland during the winter. P.S feel free to loan me either car or both so I can give a real world assessment haha!
As a Michigander, I think I'm legally obligated to go for the ATS, but I am also very tempted by the M4/M3. I think it would come down to whether I was getting a coupe or a sedan. ATS for the sedan, M4 for the coupe.
On a strange side note, my Mom has a 2007 CTS with the port package, and I think it's side profile looks very similar to the ATS V sedan. The lines running along the side of the car are very similar and the spoilers are nearly identical, even though the ATS V's is larger.
I like ur loyalties even if u do buy foreign
Handling A+; looks A (without the duck tail), B- (with the duck tail); Interior A+ (without the CUE), D- (with the CUE). Are you catching my drift?
Not sure if you mentioned it, but I would likely go with the BMW M3/M4. I would strongly consider the ATS first. I have owned BMWs before and like the material quality. That may be the only reason because I think Cadillac got it right. If they offered the 6.2 liter V8 with about the same HP it would win with me. I am in the Washington, DC area.
Dammit! I knew I shouldn't have watched your video at 1 a.m. , now I'm hungry :\ lol
even though, it was designed to deliver 18psi reliably regardless of the weather conditions.... I'm not sure I'd push it in a High Altitude places like in Colorado or during the summer here in Jeddah where's it almost 120F during the day ... Play it safe ... Guess I'll Die Another Day ;)
yea, the interior could use a little work ... Especially with the new C ... Hopefully they'll take care of it when the ATS gets the new 3.6 & transmission later this year.
The new Audi A/S4 will be revealed in Frankfurt later this year ... But if the new Q7 is any indication... I wouldn't hold my breath.
as much I like the ATS V, I still can't get over the hood & the vent above the grille ... I don't like them at all.
Cadillac took the Alpha platform & the Magnetic Ride into another level ... Makes you wonder what crazy stuff they pulled with the CTS V!
Now, regarding your question:
This is a really tough one, You know me, I'm a Cadillac guy, but at the same time... That AMG Monster!!! Its hard to choose man! In one hand, you got the Cadillac's Chassis & on the other you got AMG's monster V8 (Lawd have mercy!!! dat noise) & interior (the IWC, Burmesters & Open Pore Ash Wood ... Daymn!) ... I'll just flip a coin on this one!
but if I can have it my way ... It would be an ATS sedan body, with a HEMI 392 under the hood (I'd say V10, but that would an overkill), M3's flared Fenders & C63's interior, Panoramic roof & Active Exhaust!
as always, excellent video M!
IceDree LOVE you mythical car . . . That said, I think Bob, Dave and I need to make field trip to your hood with a couple of V Series cars to test out this intercooler/PSI thing . . .
hehehe thank you :) I daydream a lot & i got all kinds of mythical cars & combinations in my head.
you know you are always welcome here :)
Nice review MotoMan. I've been on the edge of my seat waiting for this car! I currently own a 09, G8. This ATS V is a much Better version of having the best of both worlds, Sports Sedan! Mine will be the Sedan in Metallic Blue w/8 Spd Auto! I live in Virginia. I also want the Z06 Vette! Nuff said.
great video! loved the bbq pit bit, as well. to answer your question, living in boston i should say the audi, for awd obviously, but honestly the c63 amg appears to be best in class at the moment. which is tough to say as a bmw fan, but the synthetic sounds of the m3/m4 really turn me off for whatever reason (rational or irrational). great job by caddy, nonetheless, and good points on the interior, it's almost there as a complete package.
that food looks so sloppy but so Texan. Nice review Motoman.PS I would go with the cadi, its all new and refreshing (North East)
In my country temps are very very hot and the weather is very humid too, talking about 75 degrees in Winter!
Some other car reviewer said if you live in places where it is hot this might not be the car for you since it still has a problem overheating when pushed hard, is that true?
So the no lift shift is replaced by the comp canceling or controlling the throttel. Because if you notice the digital rpm gauge the eng speed still drops in between shifts.
+David Teixeira Yes but since it does that with sensors it is better synchronized. Say it is like as if you lift your foot from the accelerator and push it again at the same exact moment each time.
Fussinated Yes I get it.. Someone designed a clutch cancellation for dirt bikes years ago. It basically turn the bike into full auto but no drops in revs.
Nice a VVT with turbos :D
14:42 "At the end of the day, it's all about the mini-coolers"?
I would choose the ATS-V. My reason being I have not personally saw the V in person but I have seen a standard ATS ; so therefore I would agree with your compliant of the interior . However, this generation ATS-V reminds me of the first generation BMW M3, in the relations of passionate driving with a Mechanical vs artificial feeling of sensation. I personally feel that new cars such as the BMW M4 or the Merc C63 would be no real enjoyment and would not put a smile on my face the ATS-V would. Now with that being said I Understand that the V does offer a lot of similar nanny systems, but I willing to bet you can turn everything off and still have the balance and composure as if they were on. I would take a 6 speed manual in black in coupe form. Oh btw I live in Pensacola Florida. However Road Atlanta is just 5 hour drive!
Motoman, any chance you could persuade savageese to review this car? 🙏🏻 Platform is about to age 10 years very soon.
I like every design of the exterior including the hood and spoiler, but the interior is just a drawback for me. if I compare the 3 cars you mentioned I would choose the C63 AMG (interior, engine wise) ATS-V aggressive exterior, M3/M4 handling.
I own a Cadillac XLR-V from Dubai.
I would definitely choose the ATS-V Sedan over the M3.
I truly prefer the ATS-V over even the M3/M4 BMW. The drive alone by far is superior; less hesitancy with Cadillac's newly designed 8 speed automatic transmission, where the BMW has a dual clutch which is not as responsive. The sound the the ATS-V would invite mostly any weekend spirited driver. And lets not forget there are more standard features on the ATS-V than there are on the M3 or M4. Cadillac provides 4yr/50k mile Premier Maintenance Package as well.
My choice? Wait for upcoming B9 S4 platform or M3 right now. Why? Interior although Caddy deserves much love for getting sooo close. Speaking of love, I have a ton for Salt Lick. Me gusta mucho.
Hey Motoman , Just some questions and things to think about 1) which engine has a lower curb weight ats-v V6 twin turbo or LT1 6.2 V8 ?? , 2) do u think in the future corvette would use this engine in let's say a cheaper entry level corvette ? Or even possibly in the next generation camaro ? 3) is the ats-v faster then a base C6 or C7 corvette ??
Slickpete83 Good points . . . Let's unpack each . . .
1.) That is a VERY good question - soooo good, I am going to run it past Dave and come back to you in an upcoming film on that one. That said, have a look at his DEEP tech dive film on this car coming up later this week and he covers some exotic materials used in the construction of this engine. As such, my *guess* would be the 3.6 V6.
2.) What I am about to type and US$2.50 will get you on the NYC Subway so take it for what it's worth: I don't see this engine turning up in a Corvette or an entry level Corvette all together. Maybe in a Camaro.
3.) Definitely faster than a base C6 but a base C7? I would say this car would give it one hell of a run for its money.
Good conversation . . .
I own ATS-V and one thing I hate is the dials on dashboard everything also is awesome
After all I paid 100K for it
I recognize the improvements on the Cadillac cars but I agree with you the interior sucks, the CUE system is the worst of the segment and reliability with all the GM recalls is always a questionmark. I would go for the C63 bi-turbo V8, the interior is S-class standard and the car looks awesome. If GM could position the ATS-V at a 50-55k range it would be a different game. But no way I would spend the same money on a Cadillac having a Benz, Lexus, and BMW in the same price range.
Man I wish they would have put this engine in the Camaro Gen 6
MotoMan after spending time with the ATS V and the prev 2008-2014 CTS V which would you prefer?
I've currently got a CTS V wagon with a manual but this ATS V is very interesting but not sure its worth giving up the extra power for.
aszrael1266 Put aside cars, I am about to give you financial advice: NEVER sell that wagon. NEVER. Was I unclear?
Between the Caddy, Beemer, Mercedes, Audi, and the Lexus, they are all pretty excellent cars. Concerning the Caddy, the new twin turbos and 18 lbs of boost would make me pause to see if the tech is "ironed out," so to speak. All the new racer bits remind me that you have to spend a princely sum for repairs. I don't know, I think of BMW and Mercedes are fun cars, handle well, good power, but aren't race cars; they are status symbols. "Come smell the rich leather and check out the advanced seat massagers, Colin." It's the interior, made for the "killer," that makes these cars desirable. And, the imputation of status for the new driver is a big deal.
I would wait a year before going for this new Caddy. This new model is a big leap. And, they went full cheese on the interior.... again. If I were buying today, it would be the M3.
A proper 6MT gearbox. MotoManTV approved!!!
BUT Cadillac wants awesome luxury and nice handling and speed... what i want to know though is how well does this car last compared to a Japanese care like Honda or Mazda?
I'm split between the M3 and the ATS-V... the Audi is out because of the all wheel drive, not a huge fan, the Merc is out because its just too damn tail happy, I've driven one and every time you think about touching the "go peddle" its just stepping way to far out. Also with that the TCS is always cutting in, now the motor is great, I will not take that away from the C-63 but its just too damn torque... Then you take the M3, its phenomenally balanced, and the engine is butter with your foot, it couldn't be more leaner and smooth just a blast of a car to play with... Now I haven't driven the ATS-V yet I'm still waiting on the local dealership to get one so once they do get one I'll be sure to make sure to update to see which one I'll buy. Macon Ga U.S.A...
He digresses at 5:03..
To answer your question, I will choose M3, which you forgot to mention for some odd reason!
That's a tough choice...I'm going to have to go with the BBQ...
Drooooool
I would get a BMW M4 and am from the UK.
Having owned an Audi and a BMW I found the rear wheel drive setup on the BMW more fun. I tried a mercedes and didn't like the gearbox as much and the new c class has a naff screen that spoils the interior of the car as it looks like a glued on afterthought.
I haven't driven the Cadillac so can't comment on how it drives but it doesn't look as good as the Merc or the BMW. American cars tend to be less refined than European cars with cheap plastic/fake interiors which puts a lot of people off in the UK where we would rather pay a bit more for higher quality materials.
andrew warner I'm from the UK too - I think I would have the Caddy in coupe form - it's something a different and would be rare on our roads and I commend them for the engineering they have put into this thing. In defence of the interior the ATS does have higher grade materials inside than they have used before - so everything that looks like metal or wood is - and they use a lot of soft touch plastics and good quality leather for the majority of the cabin from what I have heard and see in the reviews
I'm not going to lie its annoying that you can't get these type of cars in the UK. I would actually prefer this, and the sting ray can bmw, Audi merc. You just get more value for money. But the issue is once they add on tax and everything it works out about the same as them. Please bring RHD, low price and create a 2.0-2.5l twin turbo of these cars please. They should should follow ford like with the mustang. 2.5l turbo.
I think GM really limited the potential of this engine to make it more reliable and feel more like a naturally aspirated, just like Ferrari did with the Cali T I may say (that engine makes at least 700hp but they put a bunch of electronic limitations on it to make it feel like a naturally aspirated. My question is don't yall think that would be better if the manufacturers embraced the turbos and give the consumers the most power possible forgetting about that naturally aspirated nostalgia?
Ps: did motorman put it out there that he likes the ATSV over the old CTSV?
Daniel Maia NEVER said that . . . If I had the garage space, I would ABSOLUTELY get me a CTS-V Wagon with a Stick. But then again, knowing me, I would never drive it and just pull it out on nice days to clean it:)
Made me hungry...
i'd choose the new c63, but the ATS-V is my second choice
this car is a contender but needs to be significantly less expensive to the comparable M bmw which is not the case...so i doubt they will gain market share
I'M PROUD OF YOU% HI1 NUMBERLESS FLAP WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ABOUT THIS, GUYS 1!
ATS-V
Chicago
First off, comin' to you from the American Southeast. Atlanta Georgia to be Specific. Which car would I choose? I want to say ATS but I'm going to pick RC-F. Why? Because there are enough business dudes on a budget who will be convinced by Caddy's Don Draper ads to buy the ATS-V. RC-F to me is the BMW Z3 Coupe of our times, and if I have a choice I'd rather bang the hell out of my own drum than accidentally wind up in color guard with the flute section rejects! As for zee Germans, when is Merc gonna call that thing a 6.2 and who wants a fat BMW?
DH Bennett As a guy that owned both an Z3M . . . very cool analogy.
Ats and m3 I would take any of them. The others I won't.
I would take that red you're driving in the 4 door with the manual over the Germans! Because that's how we do in florida. Lol
did we see some hints of blepharoplasty XDD
Any modern car can no-lift shift.
Ats V because American cars run the streets and Michigan
it when from car to food. lol
that spoiler is absolutely disgusting.
lool. count dra-Coola.
l'll go w/ the Lexus RCF (the LFA's ugly stepsister) because why not...l live here in USA
Very good car and maybe better than m4 and rcf but the most important thing for me is the interior and the interior in this car is garbage..i will take m4 or rcf
2016 Camaro ss makes the same power for $20000 less.
It's a luxury car that competes with BMW what do you expect
I hate how Americans say tur-bin rather than tur-bine
wtf is sawsheege?
also for 2 doors in a class like this you cant beat american muscle, and the roar of a v8
To be honest i am in the market for a car
I did checked out the ATS not the V but just AWD version...i didn't even drove the car as soon as i got inside i instantly hated the interior..not just the cheap plastic shiny look but how it operates as well so called touch...I did test the touch bottom but you really need to pay attention to it and not only that every time i touch one it jumps like 2 or 3 times...so Cadillac though your car does got the looks but it lacks functionality the inside felt extremely small, cheap materials it even feels cheap horrible functionality so no point test driving, thought about the CTS to but its the same interior so no point as well...the fuck GM thinking...you still in the catching up phase with your competitors, a long fucking way to go
Its a good video that probably took a lot of work to make and only gets 27k views.