St Patrick Wasn't Irish And He's Not A Saint

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  • St. Patrick isn’t Irish, and officially he’s not saint.
    Patrick was never formally canonized. He lived before current Catholic Church laws on naming saints.[1]
    Patrick was born in Britain to wealthy parents near the end of the 4th century as Roman rule was ending. His exact birthplace is uncertain.
    The dates of Patrick's life are also uncertain. It is generally accepted he died March 17. This date is Patrick’s feast day and is celebrated worldwide as St. Patrick’s Day.
    There is general agreement among historians he was active as a missionary in Ireland in the fifth century.
    Two works in Latin generally accepted as written by Patrick have survived. These are the autobiographical Declaration (Confessio) and the Letter to the soldiers of Coroticus (Epistola).[2]
    These works provide the only generally accepted details of his life.[3]
    According to the Confession of Saint Patrick, at the age of sixteen he was captured by a group of Irish pirates, from his family's Villa at “Bannavem Taburniae”.[9]
    Patrick escaped, returned to his family, and become a cleric. He returned to northern and western Ireland as a missionary, and later served as a bishop, but little is known about this time in his life.
    By the 7th century, Patrick was revered as the patron saint of Ireland.
    Two late 7th-century Patrick biographers documented the early exploits helping build his fame.[4][5]
    In 431, Palladius was made the first bishop of Ireland, preceding Patrick.[7]
    Palladius, from a prominent family in Gaul, was a deacon. Pope Celestine I made him a bishop and sent him to Ireland "to the Scotti believing in Christ".[6]
    Parts of both life stories may have been combined in Irish tradition.[10]
    Palladius ministered in Ireland until the 460s.[8]
    References and sources:
    [1] Flechner, Roy (2019). Saint Patrick Retold: The Legend and History of Ireland's Patron Saint. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, page 1. ISBN 978-0691184647. www.google.com...
    [2]Both texts in original Latin, various translations and with images of all extant manuscript testimonies on the "Saint Patrick's Confessio HyperStack website". Royal Irish Academy Dictionary of Medieval Latin from Celtic Sources.
    [3]Macthéni, Muirchú maccu; White, Newport John Davis (1920). St. Patrick, his writings and life. New York: The Macmillan Company. pp. 31-51, 54-60.
    books.google.co...
    [4]These are the writings of Tírechán and the Vita sancti Patricii of Muirchú moccu Machtheni.[58]
    [5]Byrne, pp. 78-79; Paor 1993, pp. 6-7, 88-89; Duffy 1997, pp. 16-17; Fletcher 1997, pp. 300-06; Yorke 2006, p. 112
    [6]"Christianity in Ireland before Patrick". The Irish News. 21 January 2021. Retrieved 6 February 2023.
    [7]Cusack, Margaret Anne, "Mission of St. Palladius", An Illustrated History of Ireland, Chapter VIII, 1868 Public Domain This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain.
    Entry for AD 431 Chronicle of Prosper of Aquitaine
    [8]Byrne, pp. 78-79; Paor 1993, pp. 6-7, 88-89; Duffy 1997, pp. 16-17; Fletcher 1997, pp. 300-06; Yorke 2006, p. 112
    [9]"Confession of St Patrick". Christian Classics Ethereal Library. 7 April 2013. Archived from the original on 22 February 2014.
    [10]O'Rahilly, T. F. (1942). The Two Patricks: A Lecture on the History of Christianity in Fifth-Century Ireland. Dublin: Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies.
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  • @allthenewsordeath5772
    @allthenewsordeath5772 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So the process for officially canonizing Saints didn’t solidify until the second millennium, so most of the saints in the first millennium were more or less proclaimed so by popular acclamation.
    Since sacred tradition calls Saint Patrick, a saint he is a saint.

  • @jimmcfarlane5611
    @jimmcfarlane5611 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He was neither Catholic or Protestant and didn't drink Guinness

    • @andym9571
      @andym9571 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ....and Guinness is actually British !

    • @BudDylan
      @BudDylan ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume you mean Roman Catholic. ?

    • @userJohnSmith
      @userJohnSmith 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was appointed a Bishop in the Catholic Church by his own word. What are you talking about?

    • @flaccidego4291
      @flaccidego4291 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "For centuries the day of Patrick's estimated death was only a simple holy day of obligation where Irish workers could have a day off from work. It's a day of solemnity similar to Thanksgiving in America where most businesses close down & people gather with family for a good meal but unfortunately Americans, (many of actual dubious true Irish heretige since many Irish have more genetic DNA from Britain & Scotland than from Ireland), have degraded this day into an embarrassing stereotype where they think that dressing up like a cartoon character straight out of a Doctor Seuss book or a clown carnival while drinking green beer and painting green shamrocks on their face makes them more Irish than anyone else. Anyone who knows what St Patrick is really about knows he was actually British and Scottish and his Templar color is Blue"
      Brian O'Sheah (St Patrick Society of Ireland)

  • @jeremygarst394
    @jeremygarst394 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You don't have to be canonized to be in heaven. To define Saint so restrictively in order to make a shocking statement is unhelpful. St. Patrick, the apostle to Ireland, has been venerated as a saint over centuries and is on the Roman calendar, so of course he is a saint.

    • @markmonaghan2309
      @markmonaghan2309 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's all made up, heaven, hell, god ,

    • @jeremygarst394
      @jeremygarst394 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Mark Monaghan no, they are real. You can deny it but that doesn't change reality. Seek and you shall find.

    • @markmonaghan2309
      @markmonaghan2309 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeremygarst394 who's "they" ?

    • @jeremygarst394
      @jeremygarst394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markmonaghan2309 God, heaven, and hell.

    • @ArchieFatcackie
      @ArchieFatcackie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My word the Irish even their saint wasn’t Irish.
      They’ve been following that tradition ever since!

  • @leescott1775
    @leescott1775 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    there is a local ledgend that Patrick was from ST Bees area of west cumbria

  • @RevoeLad
    @RevoeLad 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been to an old 6th century chapel in Lancashire England called st Patrick’s he was from near there apparently.

    • @susanpower-q5q
      @susanpower-q5q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please name the 6 Century Chapel as yesterday finished reading Monsignor Horace Mann now online
      Popes under Lombard Rule on Saint Gregory the Great 6 Century whose Feast 12 March
      San Frediano Cathedral in Lucca Italy named after Irish born Prince of Ulster mentioned in Dialogues that
      Papa Gregory wrote to convert Wild Lombards who devastated Italy in his lifetime
      so hope you can visit Lucca Italy one day and tell them of Chapel
      Catholic Family Podcast three hours ago on Saint Patrick day Today Sunday just made excellent video /
      Never knew Patrick mother was niece of Saint Martin of Tours

  • @mangiagatti85
    @mangiagatti85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you don't have any facts...create a fantasy! Irish lore!

  • @virgiljjacas1229
    @virgiljjacas1229 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick, the Anglicized "Padrig" from Cymric, become the Latin "Father" push by the Catholic Church. After that, knowledge in Ireland disappear.

  • @danielcraig5362
    @danielcraig5362 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    all Christian’s are saints according to the Bible

  • @johnnyjumpup859
    @johnnyjumpup859 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was an English football alcoholic peasant... makes sense

  • @frankmorton1920
    @frankmorton1920 ปีที่แล้ว

    When was Patrick Sanitised?

  • @StevieObieYT
    @StevieObieYT ปีที่แล้ว

    I suppose next you're going to tell me that his real name wasn't Patrick 🤨🤨🤨

    • @Granuaile1
      @Granuaile1 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to the ancient texts mentioned his name was Maewyn Succat but he took the name Patricius (meaning ‘noble’ in Latin so not very humble) when he converted to Christianity following his escape from Ireland. His actions when he returned to Ireland showed him to be politically astute and able to use his knowledge of how things worked in order to enable him to create a base from which to operate (Armagh). He knew the value of going straight to the top!

    • @StevieObieYT
      @StevieObieYT ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Granuaile1 You're wrong! Stop spreading lies! The Maewyn Succat theory is characterized by shoddy research and the repetition of unfounded assertions. As I searched, I found that every article or essay which held to the Maewyn Succat theory did not cite any source for their assertion; or, if they did, they cited a source which itself was a secondary source and offered no primary reference or did not assert what the authors assumed. For example, the Wikipedia page of St. Patrick says Patrick was originally named Maewyn Succat and offers a citation. The citation leads to the website Sacred Space, run by the Irish Jesuits. The Sacred Space page cited on Wikipedia gives several details about St. Patrick's life, but does not include any claim that his name was Maewyn Succat. And even if it did, the Sacred Space article is not a primary source; it's simply a contemporary article written by some Irish Jesuit. So the Wikipedia claim that Patrick was named Maewyn Succat is a dead end. Most of my other attempts to track this down were as well. People are just repeating things without knowing where they came from.
      So at least from primary sources, there is no justification for thinking Patrick's name was anything other than Patrick.

    • @Granuaile1
      @Granuaile1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StevieObieYT OK

  • @Olove629
    @Olove629 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who cares.