Christian hardcore bands never get any credit in the straight world. Mainstream even slightly gets the scent of Christianity and they get put in a box and can never break out of it, unfortunately.
@@drockhines That's not true at all. For starters, this is not even remotely hardcore. There's also the fact that in the hardcore/metalcore scene, some of the most popular bands are christian (Zao, Norma Jean, etc).
I hear you bro. I still remember when I first discovered this video and that's the only way I've ever heard this song. I used to be heavy in the rapcore scene around 2001, this song felt so at home.
The lyrics of this song are profound and are truly relevant today. Look at society and what they're trying to push on the masses. "Good will become evil, and evil good". Andrew was spot on with this tune. Still one of the best from P86. Was a pleasure to meet him.
+bouncingsoul818 Ikr? If only they could get back together. Alex, The Hatchet, was amazing. He was one of the driving elements and gave Project 86 their unique sound.
I remember watching and listening to these guys in the mid 90's. This song came out in 95 or 96 I think. IMO, this was their best album, which was their first. The big jeans "Jenco" was hot at the time.
P86 have owned since I saw this video on MTV when MTV played music videos...I've loved them ever since, I own all their albums....I'm waiting for more...they inspired the way I play music....the ONLY band that admits to being christian that I like...because they have an Un-Biased message.
You sure weren’t, ReneidKlein. I have their ‘Drawing Black Lines’ album. Still love it and it really means a lot to me coz it was one of the 1st CD ROMS I ever owned.
Downhill downtrodden left a slave New day on the verge to find the gray Floors swing and slope downhill to bring Middle grounds set on wavering Two sides to flip and coax a brink Laying on a face on the brink Dealt an empty hand Opposed to delete any bridge to stand Polarized this side Shades display this trade Off to buy halfway Games that bore my days End of my phase today I'm not willing to meet in the middle End tragedy solve the riddle And dissipate ideals of indecision pipe Pipe dreams like these will Cease and die unleashed Like my past removed replaced and now My phases die this time Gray fades to late Phases die this time Gray fades to late My phases die this time Gray fades to late Phases die this time Gray fades to late Unveiled my mask What's right not balanced You're tripped by intent to stretch Searches coerce a mesh But find no chance to clench against Facts still remain unbalanced If that equates to remaining stagnant I'm no longer the same as the halfway days No time delays Cease and die unleashed Like my past removed replaced and now This face removed replaced and now My phases die this time Gray fades to late Phases die this time Gray fades to late My phases die this time Gray fades to late Phases die this time Gray fades to late You wanted to know why I'm different Why I refuse to open my mind Cause that relative stance is inadequate To fulfill what i need inside Many souls on the brink of collapse Inside the midst of these so-called nightmares So willing to embrace those pipe dreams so lost And neglecting their only real chance So willing to hang in the balance Your state is so desperate, so blank, so empty And left with this notion that doesn't hold water or weight It's dark or it's light so decide and face Dark So decide and face Light So decide and face Dark So decide and face Light So decide
Their self titled album is still some of the best music they’ve ever put out AND one of the best Christian heavy records of all time. I wish they would’ve made a video for “when darkness reigns” instead of pipe dream though.
Another thing too, I have talked to several who consider Drawing Black Lines to be the band's best album, even if the lead singer himself disagrees. Before an unfortunate contract bust, Drawing Black Lines was what got Atlantic Records interested in P86 to begin with.
I saw this on MTV2 in 1998 - they reminded me of rage against the machine meets Deftones and east coast hardcore, surprised to find their sound change down the line but all bands change - miss this lineup and the drummer Alex is awesome ❤️
Project86 is like a Christian version of Rage against the machine and KoRn. Christian nu-metal/Post hardcore (tho they're pretty much their own- P86core)
"Pipe Dream" Downhill downtrodden left a slave New day on the verge to find the gray Floors swing and slope downhill to bring Middle grounds set on wavering Two sides to flip and coax a brink Laying on a face on the brink Dealt an empty hand Opposed to delete any bridge to stand Polarized this side Shades display this trade Off to buy halfway Games that bore my days End of my phase today I'm not willing to meet in the middle End tragedy solve the riddle And dissipate ideals of indecision pipe Pipe dreams like these will Cease and die unleashed Like my past removed replaced and now My phases die this time Gray fades to late Phases die this time Gray fades to late My phases die this time Gray fades to late Phases die this time Gray fades to late Unveiled my mask What's right not balanced You're tripped by intent to stretch Searches coerce a mesh But find no chance to clench against Facts still remain unbalanced If that equates to remaining stagnant I'm no longer the same as the halfway days No time delays Cease and die unleashed Like my past removed replaced and now This face removed replaced and now My phases die this time Gray fades to late Phases die this time Gray fades to late My phases die this time Gray fades to late Phases die this time Gray fades to late You wanted to know why I'm different Why I refuse to open my mind Cause that relative stance is inadequate To fulfill what i need inside Many souls on the brink of collapse Inside the midst of these so-called nightmares So willing to embrace those pipe dreams so lost And neglecting their only real chance So willing to hang in the balance Your state is so desperate, so blank, so empty And left with this notion that doesn't hold water or weight It's dark or it's light so decide and face Dark So decide and face Light So decide and face Dark So decide and face Light So decide
Linkin Park OPENED for Project 86?? Nice to have a Christian band be the main event!...Sure the 2 band's points of views might confuse the audience, but at least Project 86 is letting their light shine :D
Sam Shaw Truthless Heroes was pretty trippy and cool as fuck, everything after that felt kindda lame, but yeah, I'd say their first 3 albums were fucking awesome!
@peanutbuttercrunc100 Wish I could give ya more thumbs up. 100% agree with you! I remain their fan because of that album in hope one day they will regain the passion they once had then.
It annoys me when people will say things like "I am glad this band doesn't sound like that anymore" or "they were wannabes then." I assume they're scene kids who only stick to one form of music, and that is really sad.
Interesting how you call Project 86 Linkin Park wannabes based on this video because they released 2 full length albums before anyone even knew who the crap Linkin Park was. Same with people who used to call P.O.D. a rip off of Limp Bizkit. P.O.D. formed in 1992, Limp Bizkit weren't even around until at least 1996.
There was sooooooo much energy released on their first 2 albums, so intense. II love them, but I wish they had kept the in your face intensity of the first two releases throughout. I think there would have been far more album sells.
@Rawk4Life I agree, I hate it when people bash how a band used to sound. Tell them: "Hey, guess what? they wouldn't be the band they are today if they didn't play like they did back then." But at the same time I like it when bands change and refine their sound and style over the years. People would probably just move on if a band sounded exactly the same after 15 years. So I'm glad they don't sound like that anymore. Not because I don't like the sound, far from it.
Same with Skillet. Their sound has changed several times over the years, partially due to constant members changes. With Ben now out of the band, their next album will more than likely not be too much like Awake or Comatose.
@mroddydawg Can't agree. Truthless Heroes was a failed experiment of a "concept album", "And the rest will follow" was okay but not mindblowing, but the last two records have been great.
@Rawk4Life Ben has been with skillet since the release of "alien youth" (2000). So I highly doubt that the sound will change just because Ben is gone so I'm not sure that I understand your logic. Personally, I am hoping more for a "collide"-sound, but I really don't know what John has in mind for the next album
All of their songs sound different. In the album Drawing Black Lines, the majority of songs sound like this. Kinda reminds me of Deftones, except I actually like Project 86.
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Still hits hard in 2024🤘 this was my intro to Project 86, saw it on G-Rock lol.
G-Rock! dang that’s a flashback haha
@@midwest0pe lmao you know it's old when it's considered a flashback 🤣🤣
Same here, back in the mid 90's
@@MichealSanders-xb8ns yup, that's about when I heard it. Still an absolute banger🤘
good shit
One of the BEST concerts I have EVER been to! A truly great band that still, unbelieveably, remains so underated!
Christian hardcore bands never get any credit in the straight world. Mainstream even slightly gets the scent of Christianity and they get put in a box and can never break out of it, unfortunately.
@@drockhines Absolutely! I completely agree!
@@drockhines That's not true at all. For starters, this is not even remotely hardcore. There's also the fact that in the hardcore/metalcore scene, some of the most popular bands are christian (Zao, Norma Jean, etc).
It’s 2024 and this is currently my favorite song in the world. I enjoyed watching them live at Winterfest 99. Such an underrated band!
I hear you bro. I still remember when I first discovered this video and that's the only way I've ever heard this song. I used to be heavy in the rapcore scene around 2001, this song felt so at home.
The lyrics of this song are profound and are truly relevant today. Look at society and what they're trying to push on the masses. "Good will become evil, and evil good". Andrew was spot on with this tune. Still one of the best from P86. Was a pleasure to meet him.
oh the old lineup. I miss the OG lineup, especially the drummer, he was so sick.
+bouncingsoul818 Ikr? If only they could get back together. Alex, The Hatchet, was amazing. He was one of the driving elements and gave Project 86 their unique sound.
This was the first song I had ever heard by the band and still my all time favorite. I hope these guys tour again soon.
"i'm not willing to meet in the middle" but this is hands down one of the best P86 tracks
man i miss the baggy 90's-early00's pant's :(
well I got news for you
I remember watching and listening to these guys in the mid 90's. This song came out in 95 or 96 I think.
IMO, this was their best album, which was their first.
The big jeans "Jenco" was hot at the time.
This band rocked! Loved them
Still listening to this in 2018. Pure classic.
Taproot, Project 86, Pulse Ultra. That was an awesome tour.
this is absolutely my favorite project 86 song! i always say "the older the better!"
P86 have owned since I saw this video on MTV when MTV played music videos...I've loved them ever since, I own all their albums....I'm waiting for more...they inspired the way I play music....the ONLY band that admits to being christian that I like...because they have an Un-Biased message.
Awesome song especially the end. One of my favourite albums. First two albums were 🔥
Saw them live in 97. Very intense show. Like they wanted to get their message out seriously
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You sure weren’t, ReneidKlein. I have their ‘Drawing Black Lines’ album. Still love it and it really means a lot to me coz it was one of the 1st CD ROMS I ever owned.
Downhill downtrodden left a slave
New day on the verge to find the gray
Floors swing and slope downhill to bring
Middle grounds set on wavering
Two sides to flip and coax a brink
Laying on a face on the brink
Dealt an empty hand
Opposed to delete any bridge to stand
Polarized this side
Shades display this trade
Off to buy halfway
Games that bore my days
End of my phase today
I'm not willing to meet in the middle
End tragedy solve the riddle
And dissipate ideals of indecision pipe
Pipe dreams like these will
Cease and die unleashed
Like my past removed replaced and now
My phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Phases die this time
Gray fades to late
My phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Unveiled my mask
What's right not balanced
You're tripped by intent to stretch
Searches coerce a mesh
But find no chance to clench against
Facts still remain unbalanced
If that equates to remaining stagnant
I'm no longer the same as the halfway days
No time delays
Cease and die unleashed
Like my past removed replaced and now
This face removed replaced and now
My phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Phases die this time
Gray fades to late
My phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Phases die this time
Gray fades to late
You wanted to know why I'm different
Why I refuse to open my mind
Cause that relative stance is inadequate
To fulfill what i need inside
Many souls on the brink of collapse
Inside the midst of these so-called nightmares
So willing to embrace those pipe dreams so lost
And neglecting their only real chance
So willing to hang in the balance
Your state is so desperate, so blank, so empty
And left with this notion that doesn't hold water or weight
It's dark or it's light so decide and face
Dark
So decide and face
Light
So decide and face
Dark
So decide and face
Light
So decide
This stuff would get me pumped..long live the resistance!!!
I saw P86 when they were touring promoting this album. Awesome album.
Their self titled album is still some of the best music they’ve ever put out AND one of the best Christian heavy records of all time. I wish they would’ve made a video for “when darkness reigns” instead of pipe dream though.
BOTH!
One of my favorite videos from around '98. Good times. Random but nice to find it on here by accident all of a sudden.
You just OWNEDhim dude!!!
Bahahaha!
You ROCK, Rawk4Life!
geez, man. this song is _such a friggin banger_
Still listening
Another thing too, I have talked to several who consider Drawing Black Lines to be the band's best album, even if the lead singer himself disagrees. Before an unfortunate contract bust, Drawing Black Lines was what got Atlantic Records interested in P86 to begin with.
@Extremeteam10
I saw Linkin park, POD, Project 86, and Hed P.E. in Birmingham when they were all on tour
Obrigado por adicionar nosso Ep na playlist. muita boa por sinal. um forte do abraço do Brasil!
Ouvi essa música no filme a possuida venho procurando ela há anos e achei hj lml
Rockin the Jncos. So impractical. Ha!
Desmond Lake I love JNCOs and have recently begun wearing them again!!!
the very first song I heard by them.
underrated band. didnt know they were this good. First song i heard was Little Green Men
Big jeans... Those were the days
this song and video...just so good
Man, this song is still so good.
Project 86 Rules. Their first album is the best album...Love Project...Go back to your roots
I saw this on MTV2 in 1998 - they reminded me of rage against the machine meets Deftones and east coast hardcore, surprised to find their sound change down the line but all bands change - miss this lineup and the drummer Alex is awesome ❤️
So awesome! Keep rocking, Project 86!!!
Makes miss being a kid. JCHC
I love this band seen them twice very great shows!
Escutava essa banda quando eu tinha uns 14 anos. Depois de 8 anos vim relembrar os bons momentos... Era vício! hehehe
Project86 is like a Christian version of Rage against the machine and KoRn. Christian nu-metal/Post hardcore (tho they're pretty much their own- P86core)
Anyone else a part of the OC hardcore scene back in the mid, late 90s? These guys along with others like Overcome, Zao, etc..
This isnt hardcore.... neither are any of the bands you mentioned....
Zao is
"Pipe Dream"
Downhill downtrodden left a slave
New day on the verge to find the gray
Floors swing and slope downhill to bring
Middle grounds set on wavering
Two sides to flip and coax a brink
Laying on a face on the brink
Dealt an empty hand
Opposed to delete any bridge to stand
Polarized this side
Shades display this trade
Off to buy halfway
Games that bore my days
End of my phase today
I'm not willing to meet in the middle
End tragedy solve the riddle
And dissipate ideals of indecision pipe
Pipe dreams like these will
Cease and die unleashed
Like my past removed replaced and now
My phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Phases die this time
Gray fades to late
My phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Unveiled my mask
What's right not balanced
You're tripped by intent to stretch
Searches coerce a mesh
But find no chance to clench against
Facts still remain unbalanced
If that equates to remaining stagnant
I'm no longer the same as the halfway days
No time delays
Cease and die unleashed
Like my past removed replaced and now
This face removed replaced and now
My phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Phases die this time
Gray fades to late
My phases die this time
Gray fades to late
Phases die this time
Gray fades to late
You wanted to know why I'm different
Why I refuse to open my mind
Cause that relative stance is inadequate
To fulfill what i need inside
Many souls on the brink of collapse
Inside the midst of these so-called nightmares
So willing to embrace those pipe dreams so lost
And neglecting their only real chance
So willing to hang in the balance
Your state is so desperate, so blank, so empty
And left with this notion that doesn't hold water or weight
It's dark or it's light so decide and face
Dark
So decide and face
Light
So decide and face
Dark
So decide and face
Light
So decide
Awesome band, awesome song
I kind of miss Jnco jeans.
Still can't find something like Project 86 so it's still my #1 band
Deftones. Record, Adrenaline.
They actually played this song last night and it was awesome. They said it was the first time that they played it in 7 years
Linkin Park OPENED for Project 86?? Nice to have a Christian band be the main event!...Sure the 2 band's points of views might confuse the audience, but at least Project 86 is letting their light shine :D
(continued) But because I like that they are progressing as a band and are trying new things.
its cool got its own sounds like all band should have
Project 86 in the 90's...Project 86 in the 10's = exactly the same.
not even the same band my friend this album and drawing black lines are amazing everything after I cant stand. My opinion though
Sam Shaw Truthless Heroes was pretty trippy and cool as fuck, everything after that felt kindda lame, but yeah, I'd say their first 3 albums were fucking awesome!
Cookie Monsta I've liked all their albums personally.
Hey guys, he still just talk/yells the whole time.
***** Google ad hominem and learn to argue.
Good Lord I love this band.
I like it how every P86 album sounds different.
Let’s talk about how hard this shit still thumps
Who's listening in 2024?
That ending though.
@peanutbuttercrunc100 Wish I could give ya more thumbs up. 100% agree with you! I remain their fan because of that album in hope one day they will regain the passion they once had then.
It annoys me when people will say things like "I am glad this band doesn't sound like that anymore" or "they were wannabes then." I assume they're scene kids who only stick to one form of music, and that is really sad.
02:24 BEST PART
I love that part, buuuuut 4:11 DARRRRRKKKKKKK is great.
yes, 2023, i remember the song, same vibe
Brasov;Romania,4:05 AM
Sonzera 🤘🏻
i think that they should go on tour in Atlanta Georgia
Interesting how you call Project 86 Linkin Park wannabes based on this video because they released 2 full length albums before anyone even knew who the crap Linkin Park was. Same with people who used to call P.O.D. a rip off of Limp Bizkit. P.O.D. formed in 1992, Limp Bizkit weren't even around until at least 1996.
2023
@Extremeteam10 i bet that was a kickass show
Use to watch this on F.N.V. if ya know, ya know!
Good and evil, facing that fact and choosing to live one of those 2 ways
whoever directed this video doesn't think we like watching drummers
There was sooooooo much energy released on their first 2 albums, so intense. II love them, but I wish they had kept the in your face intensity of the first two releases throughout. I think there would have been far more album sells.
@C3Geltonz
Fellow Project 86 fan!
Holy crap that was ages ago...Linkin Park opened that show when I saw it at Cain's Ballroom in Tulsa. Flashback...
saw them in concert :)
@Cyperjanne Uh, Sincerely Ichabod? Doomsday Stomp? "...And The Rest Will Follow" is by far their best record.
Great band
Rapaz eu venho procurando essa música a anos
@squirrelfighterdvo Theres no way, they played it at Denver a couple months ago.... Thats odd that theyd say that....
@Rawk4Life I agree, I hate it when people bash how a band used to sound. Tell them: "Hey, guess what? they wouldn't be the band they are today if they didn't play like they did back then."
But at the same time I like it when bands change and refine their sound and style over the years. People would probably just move on if a band sounded exactly the same after 15 years. So I'm glad they don't sound like that anymore. Not because I don't like the sound, far from it.
Happy Friday the 13th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same with Skillet. Their sound has changed several times over the years, partially due to constant members changes. With Ben now out of the band, their next album will more than likely not be too much like Awake or Comatose.
@mroddydawg Can't agree. Truthless Heroes was a failed experiment of a "concept album", "And the rest will follow" was okay but not mindblowing, but the last two records have been great.
@Rawk4Life not to mention linkin park opened for project 86 on one of their tours
@Rawk4Life Ben has been with skillet since the release of "alien youth" (2000). So I highly doubt that the sound will change just because Ben is gone so I'm not sure that I understand your logic. Personally, I am hoping more for a "collide"-sound, but I really don't know what John has in mind for the next album
So? There are some bands that are great their entire career, it just takes some more than a few years to catch on.
I'm confused by the video. Is this the same band who did "My Will Be A Dead man"? Totally different ideas here.
Not inconsistent at all
Different eras, different albums......They make all kinds of different songs and sounds, while remaining in their over all same style.
Because this song was recorded ~15 years ago.
Where was this filmed?
All of their songs sound different. In the album Drawing Black Lines, the majority of songs sound like this. Kinda reminds me of Deftones, except I actually like Project 86.
I remember G-ROCK
going to their concet today
this song was on the movie extreme days, but not included in the soundtrack! wtf?
Remember when Project 86 was actually a good band?
the old school full
ginger snaps
@Rawk4Life Tell 'em like it is! They can't HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
He sings more these days, that's why.
2020?
My husband looks like the lead singer
Eh yo old school!
What is this song about?
fuck yaaaaaaaa!!!!!
first thought : BLACK GUY LIKES METAL?!!?! COOL!!!
Second thought: Oooh he's rapping nevermind....
(just a joke dont get all defensive)