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- Living with her snobby family on the brink of bankruptcy, Anne Elliot is an unconforming woman with modern sensibilities. When Frederick Wentworth-the dashing one she once sent away-crashes back into her life, Anne must choose between putting the past behind her or listening to her heart when it comes to second chances. Adapted from the Jane Austen novel.
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Eight years after Anne Elliot was persuaded not to marry a dashing man of humble origins, they meet again. Will she seize her second chance at true love?
Anne Elliott is such a unique character. She is humble, quiet, introverted. She does everything for others. Why is everyone taking these beloved female characters and trying to make them fiesty? Persuasion is my favourite novel. This doesn't fit the tone of the novel at all. It feels like they are trying to make it a comedy. Why can't they just leave a great story as it is. It is beloved for a reason. What is so wrong with being humble, sincere and quiet as a woman? Not every female alive has to be feisty.
Exactly 😭
Exactly! Miss Anne Elliot was a self-representation for me in this world of sassy and fiesty characters, I was waiting for this movie so much and then I got this. Feel a little dumbfounded.
This. Media is saturated with feisty characters. I'm sick of them.
I was so excited for this, but I have a feeling I'm not going to be happy when it finally comes out.
It always seems strange to me when writers decide "I think *I*, incredible writer that I am, can improve on this iconic character written by a highly respected and celebrated author, and the generations of people who have loved this story for years will surely like that I fundamentally changed everything about the character."
I know I shouldn't judge this before seeing it, but I agree with the other commenters. If screenwriters don't like Austen's quiet, reserved heroines like Anne and Fanny, why don't they just adapt P&P or Emma instead of turning them into those characters? Introverted women exist and deserve to be seen and loved for who they are, not forced to change into society's idea of what a strong woman should look like.
Looks like they made the same mistake as that 90s Mansfield Park.
Perfectly said!
true
This is one of my favourite Jane Austen heroines and they completely butchered her. She doesnt look like someone who could be persuaded of anything, she feels rebelious and nothing at all like in the book. I'll stick with Amanda Root's and Sally Hawkins wonderful Anne's interpretations
No! I’m tired of Lizzy being misrepresented. But, you absolutely may judge this before seeing it because we all know the title should be Persuadegerton.
I really didn't like what they did with Mansfield Park (though the film was a hit), but this? It sounds like a nice take, not everything has to be exactly like the book. And, Anne did have a sense of humour about the persons around her, she just didn't show it.
I guess the problem here is that there is a very faithful adaption of P&P and several at least halfway faithful adaptations of Emma, but not a single one of Persuasion.
I'm so glad someone got paid for: "Now we're worse than exes, we're friends" The biggest eye roll in the world doesn't do it justice! Why change something so beautiful and insightful. What Austen actually wrote is, "“There could have never been two hearts so open, no tastes so similar, no feelings so in unison, no countenances so beloved. Now they were as strangers; nay, worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted. It was a perpetual estrangement.”
It's basically what is wrong with this adaptation in a nutshell. It has a distinct quirky feel of 2020 Emma with a splash of Bridgerton and that's just not... it.
Right? The new line is absolutely terrible, and so far from the original that it's laughable
THAT PART!
I was confused by that line in the trailer too. I don't think an ex was a thing during that time. It sounds too modern and like lazy paraphrasing.
@@annemariestrehl exactly "an ex" didn't exist in that time. It sounds like a desperate modernisation of the piece.
Anne Elliot is a superior woman. She is thoughtful, kind, quiet yet observant, steadfast and of sound principles. She's represented all the introvert women for the past 200 years and shown the world their unimaginable worth. And then Netflix comes along and makes her a loud, sassy, flirt with a big mouth. As if she'd ever say "Wentworth" whilst thinking of him. As if she'd be as vulgar as Mrs. Elton from Emma. Ridiculous.
My own personality is closer to Lizzie, but one must admire an Anne Elliot!! She's one of the most amazing women in literature!
Oh my god, THAT is who she reminded me of in this! Mrs. Elton. No wonder I find her so damn annoying.
@@lovetolovefairytales dreadfully good point.
I agree. Having her cop a squat and pee by a tree while hiding from Louisa and Mr. Wentworth did nothing to move the story forward and was such a betrayal to the style and spirit of the novel. Why all the makeup and red lipstick? Dakota Johnson has beautiful skin and features. They really didn't understand the message of the story. Anne thought she did the wrong thing in "giving up" Wentworth but the audience is supposed to know better. He didn't deserve her until he made his fortune. That was part of the point of the visit to Mrs. Smith. That could have been Anne had she thrown her lot in with Wentworth at a young age and he got killed at sea. She would have been in trouble much like her friend. Wentworth had spent extravagantly and had not saved his money won in the Navy. At his age it didn't look good for him to win more but of course he did and by then he learned to save. Mrs. Russel was right to encourage Anne to give him up. Part of the reason he made so much money was daring and it is difficult to be daring if you know your death could leave your wife widowed with nothing. Mrs Russell wasn't wrong to encourage her to break off the engagement and Anne wasn't wrong to listen to her elders. To think Austen meant to ignore your elders they have no wisdom to offer, is just mad.
wait what. whats wrong w saying his name?
'Now we are worse than exes - We are friends' ????? When do Anne and Wentworth become friends after their separation?? They skirt around each other awkwardly for the entire book until the gravity of their feelings is too much and they collide back together in the most romantic scene I have ever read... They exist in the same room for months and barely acknowledge one another and THAT IS THE POINT. Their yearning is too intense for a simple friendship to exist!! Its agony for them to be in the same room together and THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE BOOK SO GOOD.
Also, the Regency Era didn’t have “exes”! 😖
@@ellenlittle6551 I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the characters pulled out an iPhone from their pocket in the movie
@@Seca95 haha this made me laugh out loud
It really cheapens the pain Anne feels when she’s around Wentworth. It’s agonizing. To me that line is the worse part of the trailer. It’s just so reductive to Anne’s heartbreak.
@@Seca95 it could be
The comment section absolutely passed the vibe check. I went there expecting to find people fawning over the Regency-era setting and Dakota Johnson. Instead, I find deep, thoughtful analyses and critiques, probably better than I could've found anywhere else. Jane Austen would've been proud :)
The media will probably call fans names for not gushing at this.
How do you know if Jane Austen would've been proud? Did you know her personally?
I feel like you would love the Jane Austen Reddit group then. So many amazing input.
@Z S - don't you? Obviously never read an Austin novel nor deigned to peruse her biography. Jane WOULD be tickled that she is still relevant and beloved by fans who defend her. NETFLIX SUCKS. Watch the BBC Sally Hawkins version. The vampires at Netflix deserve an Upper Decker.
@@anaisnin7983 to make such assumptions is beyond conceivable arrogance..... however, I will let you to jog on
I will never understand Netflix’s decision to make such a quiet, thoughtful, and kind protagonist make snarky remarks in a “Jim from the office” style.
Because it’s Netflix. Given enough time and money, Netflix could even ruin Shakespeare.
Jim from the office🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gold
I KNOW, how dare they insult precious Jimothy by stealing his signature move and including it in this farce!?
Good god this nails it completely!!!
Feels like they're trying to do the same thing as the 2020 version of Emma but it fits far better for that character than here
I agree with a lot of the comments here. Female empowerment is not about replacing every introverted female character with a “sassy” personality. I want to see more representation of quiet and sincere women that I can actually relate to😭
yes.
The irony is that Jane Austen's 'Persuasion' contains some fascinating and pertinent discussions about the perceptions of women back in her day. They could have had a field day exploring those. They didn't need this wishy-washy modernist travesty.
Yes. It gives the implication that you can't be a strong empowered woman unless your sassy eith everyone.
The thing that's ridiculous is that Anne actually was a strong and empowered woman. She knew she had made a mistake and when given a second chance she stepped out, took the opportunity, and embraced the life she wanted. That's empowering in any time, but especially during the age. She also learned to stand up to her family and for herself by the end of the story, and she did it her own way, without being sassy.
this comment and along with the replies. I’m really like really sick of seeing women being that sassy, quirky, and badass trope. Like, women can be strong with mind, knowledge, wise, and even if they are introverted, quiet, or a shy type, they can be strong and put you in your place when they want to. You don’t always have to be that mean or sassy girl to be strong.
Yup, women is consider strong if they are like teasing, outgoing, provocative, flirting, and have a tragic backstory lmao its funny
But what I love most about Anne is the fact that she isn't mischievous or always dabbling in the affairs of others. She isn't cheeky and always smirking at cameras. She's reserved, calm, and mature. That's not the vibe this is giving.
And that is an essential part of her character, she is older, washed-up and defeated to live a life of serving her family. The whole story is she is given a second chance.
The character you’re describing sounds more interesting to watch than this Jennifer-Lawrence-in-any-role-2010’s crap I’m looking at except with Dakota. I think they try to make women characters written a certain way have no meekness about them whatsoever and end up with these blobs of smirking nonsense
@@Dizzydollie7 Totally agree!
I think mature is one of the best words to describe her.
Victorian England is somehow more diverse than modern England hmmmmmmm
It warms the cockles of my heart to see how Austen lovers have risen as one and condemned this monstrosity.
It looks well produced with a good cast, but the whole feel does not fit the story at all. It seems the producers were just keeping up with our times, which detracts from the whole feeling of reading a Jane Austen novel - I want to be transported back in time. I’ll give it a shot, but I’m not expecting much.
@@Shaezilla101 I wish I could thumbs up this comment a zillion times. I want to be transported back in time as well, so I do want things in an Austen adaptation to be as accurate as possible with a tinge of relatability to make it understandable today. Don't bother to dress in Regency times if you are going to make this a modern take. Just make a modern Persuasion set in the present day and save us all the grief.
@@Shaezilla101 If you want to be transported back in time, you could watch the 2007 adaptation by ITV. It doesn't have to be remade.
Never underestimate the power of Austen fans we are loyal to that which should be preserved. There is no integrity to this.
@@somesuchx8912 I didn't know there was a 2007, I only ever see the older one. I will give that a look-see!
This is horrifying. The fleabag style camera looks, Dakota looking beautiful with make up, the way that you can't tell that she has spent the last 8 years miserable and sad and downtrodden while her family treated her as a maid. The longing she and Captain Wentworth had for eachother. Everything that made Persuasion is missing. The 1995 movie version is so good.
The 1995 Persuasion is the best Austen adaptation of any of her books, I think.
@@sandeesandwich2180 I respectfully dispute that assertion and would argue that the 2007 BBC adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones is the best adaptation to date. The 1995 version was severely lacking, especially in the chemistry between the main characters - there simply was none - despite a young Ciarán Hinds as Wentworth. The chemistry between Hawkins and Penry-Jones was palpable in every scene they shared, and their sorrow and heartache unmistakably evident in every look, movement, their speech and countenance.
@@sandeesandwich2180 Agree. It's the most authentic and naturalistic also. The kiss is so romantic.
Johnson looks like a time traveller. Wrong in every way.
@@meb1879 Honestly having watched the 1995 version like a million times, I feel that the Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds do have chemistry. Its more in the subtle looks they give each other. I feel Anne's pain when she looks at Frederick after coming back from the war, confronted with what she has lost and probably will never have again, trying to resolve herself to life as she knows it now. When Frederick gets upset at the opera (by the way, isn't that the most beautiful opera music you have ever heard?), I really feel his underlying passion towards her and jealously towards William Elliot and Anne. I'm not putting down the 2007 version at all, but in my opinion these two actors really captured the essence of their characters.
They turned Anne Elliott into Lydia Bennet according to this trailer.
Hello, how are you
That's a nice way to put it.
even worse in my opinion, they turnes Anne elliott into Bridget Jones in my opinion.
Persuasion is a quiet, intense novel about desperately wishing you could go back and fix the worst mistake of your life. It's meant to be overflowing with longing. It's a slow-build that turns into a pressure cooker as a plain, soft-spoken mouse of a woman tries to wrangle the courage to stand up for herself and what she wants despite enormous pressure from others. It should be moody and aesthetic and this...this is not the tone. They clearly wanted to turn Persuasion into the next Emma, but Emma and Anne have zero in common in the books, and the lessons they have to learn are completely opposite. I don't recognize Anne in this portrayal at all. Did these people even read the novel? I was so excited when I heard about this, but this looks like they don't understand the spirit of the novel or the heroine at all. Hopefully it's just a bad trailer, but this is disappointing.
Miriam you just described what I felt seeing the trailer. They changed the tone too much. It just doesn't feel like the same character!
They surely didn't understand!
The Fleabag-like breaking of 4th wall is trying hard and unnecessary.
Lastly, Dakota's accent is awful!!!!
Perfectly said! Exactly how I felt after watching.
Exactly! Anne was brainwashed by her narcissistic family into feeling like her purpose was to be invisible and accommodating. But the "Flea-bag" style monologues make her seem like just a more charming kind of narcissist. Bummer!
bravo
I read ALL of Jane Austen’s works and Persuasion is my absolute favourite. I am so excited but I must say this feels like a comedy a little too much. I hope it’s toned down in the movie. The book has a very nostalgic and introspective feel, and the characters were both heavily emotionally impacted by their painful separation years before (I’d say they are almost haunted by it). In the book you can really perceive his resentment and her sadness. She deeply regrets the past and continually wishes she could change it.
I would have expected this kind of vibe from a Northanger Abbey’s adaptation (which was written as an actual satire of gothic novels), not a Persuasion one
This ^^^^^^
The version with Ciaran Hinds as Wentworth is sublime.
My thoughts exactly!
Yeeesh
This would be such a good idea! They could definitely remake Northanger Abbey in this tone!
This book was important because it represented the quieter introverted girls who had there own things to offer
Agreed.
Yes!!!
Book name?
@@jashajain911 persuasion by Jane Austen
what is the piano music in the end?
Jane Austin would have been mortified If she had seen her book made into such torture to watch
I think she'd like it
@@flask223 Don't be so disrespectful.
She had a sense of humour, so I reckon she would have liked it
@@aps2712 you knew her well then?
@@jeannetteharrison4011 about as well as you I'd imagine
To all period dramas: stop taking Bridgerton as inspiration, especially in the humor. Jane Austen's original language was filled with subtle wit; the jokes here are so painfully obvious and unfunny. Stop modernizing everything. The beauty of Austen lies in the past.
Jealous much
@@littlesofiaisherefairly accurate but they are taking more from fleabag than Bridgerton.
I hate humor
Well people find different things funny we won’t laugh at the same jokes !! So if you didn’t like it just don’t watch it !! Go read the book
@@Lol98-wk18 Gladly. I realize that someone such as yourself probably thought that Persuasion was the fourth Fifty Shades of Grey movie, but pray don't assume your troglodytic ignorance to be true of everyone. Fix your grammar and learn how to read before trying to develop any semblance of literary understanding and appreciation. Baby steps, dear.
Nahh how could anyone replace the original beautiful words with “we’re worse than exes, we’re friends” and still sleep soundly at night 🥴 Jane’s rolling in her grave 😩
what were the original words?
@@TheMeesa "Now they were as strangers; worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted."
How could they call this appalling movie an adaptation? Poor Jane Austen, how could she rest in peace with all the things these people are doing
@@julia_btfl maybe she can rest in peace because the next life is more about who created her than what she created here.
One of the main points of the novel is that they are not even friends. They act like people who met briefly long ago and now only talk to each other because they socialise with the same people.
I think she is smiling that her story set in the Recency Era of England resonates with people globally in the 21st century. As a writer and an undercover cultural anthropologist she would accept that like social norms, language also evolves. Hence some changes were made by contemporizing the cast and the words, but the plot is no less the same.
being a jane austen fan, i read Persuasion quite recently and it's her best work in my opinion. just exquisite. please let this honor the novel ( wow look at us being collectively enraged. Yet, i won’t not watch it. will I be more enraged after? probably…)
The trailer suggests they won't be honouring the novel! A lot of box tickers in it!
@@thehound9638 hmmm sounds not so great but novel or movie everything has its merits.
@@thehound9638 agree with you entirely. It seems so far off from the novel. It doesn’t capture the Jane Austen heroine’s essence at all. From the trailer it seems no one can persuade the heroine other than herself
The movie looks like a far cry from the book...Anne's gentle, sad, introverted, and introspective spirit seems to have been replaced with something closer to Elizabeth Bennet's one and this Wentworth seems to wear his emotions much more openly (and with far less resentment) than book Wentworth-- that already strips the text from its strongest components
It just can't.. There's nothing about that Jane Austen atmosphere in this trailer, they just took the plot and messed everything up. I can't imagine a true Jane Austen fan actually agreeing that this is an accurate version..
Why on earth they try to modernize dialogue to appeal the audience when the real reason we want to watch period dramas is for things like: "you have bewitched me body and soul"
Has anyone written a better love letter than Wentworth's to Anne Elliot? The film establishment has no idea what it's ruining. Makes you ask whether they read the book they're butchering.
Although that line wasn't in the book, it certainly did a better job than these dialogues here 😂
hmm…that particular line reads pretty modern to me. not as bad as “hangry” though
I'm not convinced yet. I feel like Dakota is more playing Elizabeth or Emma than Anne. Anne is more reserved, mature and calm. I don't get the vibes of the novel yet. I feel they are trying to give it the same vibes as the last movie Emma, but I'm not sure it will work for Persuasion.
This is going to be shockingly bad. All the smirks to camera etc? This is not Anne at all.
Omg I was searching the comments for someone else who thought this. THANK YOU.
Agree
You re so right. Its not Anne, not at all
Plus, Dakota is a horrible actor. You're telling me they didn't have anyone else to take the role?
“We’re worse than exes… we’re friends.” I’m sure this will be a cute story, but it is mostly certainly not Jane Austen.
imagine gatekeeping the work of a woman who died like 200 years ago, just imagine....
@@antemiuenteri it's not gatekeeping, they're expressing dissatisfaction in the poor choice of writing in the script. all adaptions modernize the writing from JA's novels but the inclusion of the word ex takes you out of zone of suspension of disbelief. People are allowed their opinions, don't go throwing around buzzwords that don't even fit the situation. the line was irksome to a lot of people not just one.
I cringed so much at that line
Cringy
Yeah, that line makes me think they should’ve just made this a modern retelling.
Though from the trailer this Anne doesn’t really seem like the Anne from the novel or other adaptations, she seems more like Lizzie Bennet, as others have noted.
Pride and Prejudice: "You have bewitched me body and soul.”
Netflix: "See it's your booty, that's drivin' me crazy"
☠️☠️☠️☠️
Great take. Although Austen never wrote the "bewitched". It did fit the tone of the novel at least!
I did not like the "bewitched" line, but I could accept it for modern audiences sake. I won't say the same for Persuasion (at least according to this trailer).
😂 HA HA! TRUTH! That’s why I canceled my subscription
lmao
WHY?! WHY people want so bad to destroy Jane’s masterpiece? Couldn’t Netflix made movie with similar storyline and then turned it into comedy?? Persuasion is definitely the most realistic story that Jane wrote and you made a joke of it.
If someone wants to see good Persuasion movie, I recommend the adaptation from *1995* year.
That one is THE BEST- but also please read the book!👍🏽
1995 version is the best
With the Bath City Marathon sprint at the end🤔
@@Greenwillow bath city marathon 🤣 🤣
The 2007 adaptation does cut out a lot of scenes but I would say it captures the essence of the original book more accurately than the 1995 version
It just could have been a period romance in its own right it didn’t have to be a stain on a Jane Austen classic
Favorite line from the book: "Now they were as strangers; nay, worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted again"
No, they are worse than exes; they are friends!
Friends are underrated.
So they butchered the line?
@@ellie-tk4jy completely. Especially cause the term “exes” didn’t exist in the regency era. 🙄🙄🙄
what is the piano music in the end?
@@ellie-tk4jy They not only butchered the line, but they lost the quiet resolve and despair it was meant to convey.
WE DON’T WANT THIS! We don’t want a cheap chuckle at the expense of character! We want the yearning, dramatic, heart stopping romances from our childhood!
Thank you!!! Exactly my point!!!
I want it!!! You don't speak for everyone
I fell in love with this movie! AMAZING!
YOU don’t want it, don’t speak for everyone
Most of us DON'T WANT THIS!!! If you do, you never read the book.
Dakota Johnson basically plays herself in every role she takes on. You can modernize a classic without removing it's heart & soul. Unfortunately, Netflix didn't get the message.
Her acting leads me to sleep.
I liked her compared to Wentworth his acting just didn't convince me at all. He looked on drugs! Perhaps all the pressure!?
that smarmy smirk never leaves Dakota Johnson's face ....... hardly an Anne Elliot!
@@CatrionaRuadh that alone, if nothing else, would be enough to turn me off of this adaptation.
I wished Joe Wright wrote the screenplay. One of my favs has to be Pride and Prejudice. Kiera Knightly would have added so much depth and intrigue to Anne's character.
No and no. Persuasion is my favorite of Jane Austen's books because it had a gravitas the previous books lacked. Anne does not have hunks of jam on her face and has the chamber pot fall on her. Anne is dignified, she is strong for everyone else. Not everything needs to be Bridgerton, for the love of God.
I don't like Bridgerton.
They ruined Bridgerton with season 2, now it's time to ruin Pursuasion too 😮💨
@@shoujofanatic season 2 > season 1
I love Bridgerton but I get why people are mad at this adaptation
Exactly this was giving so much bridgerton haha
wasn't Anne supposed to be a bit insecure and reserved in the time leading up to and then seeing Wentworth again? Dakota comes of as too confident and wallowing, but not the quiet reserved Anne I'm thinking she should be. I prefer the Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Roote version, even if people think they look too old, the acting is a lot more subtle and you can feel the emotion better
Why the hell is her hair down!!?!!!!!! Her character is like 27 or something, not 12, their hair was never down even at home after like the age of 18, only maybe right before bed
did they just stick her in a beret like it was 1900!?!!!, I live in France, and NO ONE wears a beret except weird tourists, old men, and people that live in Marseille or in the Basque region, hahahhaha, and while the beret has an old history, I highly doubt an English woman in like 1818 would've been wearing it
Did the writers have her use the word "ex", hahahahhahahahhaahhahahahahhahaha, I know they are trying to piggyback off the success of Bridgerton, but Bridgerton is legit fantasy, while the work of Jane Austen even though fiction is definitely not. I mean, I understand why they did it thinking the language of Austen might be too complicated for speakers in our generation, but nah, man, we can still understand it, especially presented in context
And don't mention the blind casting, I have absolutely no problem with that, I'm only mentioning it in case people think I have a problem with it, I definitely don't have a problem with blind casting
@@aeolia80 Thanks for the more critical reaction. Good to hear a differing POV, and from a book reader at that.
And also, yeah, I too was slightly thrown off when they used the word "exes", I always felt like that was modern language, not something you'd hear from someone in the early 1800s.
@@aeolia80 This was me watching the first season of Sanditon. MC has her hair down for most of the movie and she's supposed to be 'out' in society. A regency woman would never.
I think they got the mood wrong. Persuassion it’s about longing about what Anne thought was lost when she left Wentworth.
I’ve read Austen and Persuassion remains her most introspective work, the less comedic one, and the most critical of all in terms how society and class can separate people apart.
Amen
please don't let this be a comedy, please don't let this be a comedy, please don't let this be a comedy, please this is the best Jane Austen book, please keep it as it is, please please please
I think it is going to be a comedy/parody 😭😭
There's a Vogue article about this adaptation.....all it seemed like they wanted to talk about is how quirky and silly this movie is going to be...NOOOOO 😭😭😭
@@EmilyJJaynes I WILL CRY
They're not going to keep it as it is because they have no creative integrity or world-building.
Netflix don't care about Jane Austen, they're just using her work as a platform to push "THE MESSAGE"...
@@MeliMant i missed the part where that's my problem
Sadly, this is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad adaptation. I wonder if the writers ever actually read Persuasion before because they completely misunderstood who Anne Elliot is and have turned her character into Bridget Jones. Completely ridiculous!
When you have to ask whether the director actually read the book, you know ow bad it's gotten in the film establishment.
Persuasion is one of Austen's best. This version seems to lose all of the tension from the story, by removing the social restraints that held Dakota Johnson's character back and instead making her seem too independent and world-wise to be persuaded by anyone. So there's no arc for this version of the character to follow, it's just a drawn out will-they-won't-they connecting the dots along a rom-com plot path - at least by the feel of the trailer. The book uses the love story to critique social issues of the time, especially the limitations on a woman's ability to choose anything for herself, which makes the ending uncertain until the lead character alters her previous pattern and breaks away from social pressures to choose the path she prefers but that society forbids for shallow and arbitrarily sexist reasons. It's satisfying not just because she gets her love, but because she's brave, she beats the odds stacked against her, and she puts society in its place instead. Otherwise, this version looks very pretty and Dakota is charming, as usual.
This exactly!
I wrote elsewhere in the comments that presenting Anne as fiestier doesn't work for this reason.
Lizzie Bennett's growth was to not jump so quickly to assumptions or be prejudiced against people based on minimal interaction. This is why Wickham is able to hoodwink her, even though there are hints in the text that he is not being honest from the jump.
Conversely Anne Elliot is more mature and wise, her instincts are sound and based on careful observation (she refuses to accept Mr Elliott's proposal, even though it would solve loads of her problems and everyone she loves is saying "Bitch, you better marry that guy!" because she knows something doesn't add up about him*). Her arc is the opposite of Lizzie's in that she need to learn to trust herself, stand up for herself and put herself first for once.
If you combine the best traits of both characters, as this trailer seems to show, Lizzie's wit and forthrightness, Anne's perceptiveness and generosity.... That's a perfect person! There's no nuance or room for growth!
*This is also why Persuasion does not work as a love triangle. Mr Elliot is up to no good and Anne never trusts him. If you make Anne more gullible you remove a key aspect of her character, but that's another issue
Well the trailer makes it seem like that for sure. I'll clearly watch it since I love Jane Austen, but this almost feels like maybe Netflix had their hands too far into it. It'll be interesting to see them take on Austen because the last adaption of Emma, which got theatre release was really enjoyable. I wonder if they picked this project because of Bridgerton, but at the same time Bridgerton can barely be compared to Austen or her works even if they set them both in the regency era.
@@sarahcox4292 I like your analysis of Lizzie and Anne but I don't think we know for sure that Anne is more guillable in this adaptation based on this trailer. To me, she seems charmed by him but still cautious, as if she knows she must be careful. I am keeping an open mind until I see it.
@@madisonestes9381 I agree with you there. I will definitely be watching so hopefully that is a misinterpretation on my part.
The tension... The slow burn was everything... Favorite Jane Austen novel
What Persuasion deserves is a drama series. Even the past movies doesn’t bring out the best of this novel and it’s characters.
Agreed. I think the best Austen adaptations are the ones which are a series. There's so many layers that condensing it to 2 hours max is impossible. See Emma 2020 for this one.
i thought 1995 persuasion was almost perfect
A mini-series would be great (if done right). There is so much to flesh out in the main characters during the engagement (I imagine a happy younger Anne and Wentworth) and then in the later years after the ending of the engagement and they meet again.
There is a mini series with the actress from the shape of water as Anne. I thought it was really good
I think Persuasion 1995 was VERY good, in my opinion all characters there were perfect and the movie was faithful to the book to the most part.
I'm so looking forward to the pining and another handsome hunk saying - "You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. Tell me not that I am too late, that such precious feelings are gone for ever. I offer myself to you again with a heart even more your own than when you almost broke it, eight years and a half ago. Dare not say that man forgets sooner than woman, that his love has an earlier death. I have loved none but you. Unjust I may have been, weak and resentful I have been, but never inconstant."
But this version seems to have made Anne quirky and adorable, but she is the most mature and calm of Austen's heroines. I guess they are going for the 2020 Emma version feel. This might be interesting and bring levity to an otherwise melancholy story.If they overdo the quirky ditzy thing it would take away from the deep love she had for Wentworth and the overall depth of her character. Anne is not Elizabeth Bennet, Persuasion is not an enemies to lovers story. It's a second chance, 8 years pining for your true love and all that. They are truly haunted by their long separation. She has such heart wrenching internal monologues about Friedrich in the book. I guess my rant is just saying I care about the book and I hope this movie doesn't make their love superficial.
I'm swooning just reading that.
@@tsjohnson5 I squeal every time I read it!
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Exactly my thoughts. As a movie this might be fun but as an adaptation it looks terrible lol
Yes this is what I felt too reg. 2020 Emma quirkiness. I love the Sally Hawkins version and I think this is going to be very different from that but I'm looking forward to it!
I usually love adaptations that do something new and interesting with the source material (I really enjoyed 'Fire Island' as a take on Pride and Prejudice'). But this really seems to miss what people love about Persuasion and turn Anne into a fiesty, Lizzie-Bennet-turned-up-to-11 character, instead of the somewhat ground down by her family, but still highly perceptive, intelligent and strong in her convictions character that so spoke to me.
Perhaps the sadness of Anne, feeling left on the shelf at 27 and living her life for others, cannot translate to a modern audience directly because we rightly don't identify with being single as a failing anymore. But surely there was some way of changing the circumstances while staying true to the sadness and longing of the book without turning the story into a farce and Anne into a typical fiesty herione. Not really hopeful about this one based on the trailer alone... hopefully this is misrepresentative.
OMG YES. I DEFO FEEL THE SAME.
IT'S LIKE THE TONE IS DIFFERENT
i agree
You articulate my misgivings this trailer gave me. Anne is Not Lizzie, she can’t be. I am a Austen fan and will probably watch this but this Anne just doesn’t feel like Anne to me.
I agree. They could change the tone without changing the character so much. She's the center of the story, it's nor Persuasion if they change her. I hate when they change the story SO much that they're really just trying to profit off the author's/book's name by calling it so.
Totally agree. Although Anne is a smart, beautiful, kind woman, there's this sense of feeling unworthy or how you described: being left in the shell that I don't quite feel being portrayed by Dakota (and I love Dakota). Let's hope that the movie prove us wrong.
I watched this yesterday evening and I've been SCREAMING all along. They butchered the story in a horrifying way, disrespecting each and every character, but mostly our dear Anne Eliott. They made her an alcoholic ffs !!! You wanna make Bridgerton shit, go write your own Bridgerton shit but leave Austen's work at peace. I am so angry right now. How could anyone jump into this shitshow is beyond me.
Has anyone seen the series Sanditon ? It was made with utter respect to Jane Austen's phylosophy and work. The actors are amazing, the costumes, everything. It is remarkable and was made by true Austen lovers. The person who wrote this version of Persuasion could really learn from it.
The only thing worth saving in this version of Persuasion is THE FREAKING RABBIT, that says a lot about the whole mess.
I didn’t read the novel but I think I will now I couldn’t keep watch the movie and yes I watched sadniton and you’re right it was amazing I enjoyed every episode
ATROCIOUS CASTING TO PUT THIS 50-Shades of Grey ''individual'' in the lead role who simply just cannot f****** ACT.!!!
I love Sanditon. Even though I consider myself an Austen fan I didn't know it was her work before I started watching the show. While I was watching the very first episode I thought, this feels like an Austen novel, could it be? So I paused the episode and googled it and confirmed it was. That's how good a job they did of staying true to Austen's style of storytelling. I could tell it was based on her works from half an episode without prior knowledge that it was.
it's one of the most awful romcoms/romances ive seen in years. netflix really butchered the story
Dakota Johnson just fits her role perfectly. I’m so stoked to see yet another Jane Austen novel being adapted into a movie in 2022. Quite surprising to see Henry Golding in this as well. Overall, based on the trailer alone, it’s gonna be an immense rollercoaster.
She's too pretty to be Anne Elliot imo.
No she doesn't
Her performance is same in all movies, no improvement, no voice change or accent
Someone else would have done better job than her
@@LMD11 yea i got so excited when i learned there was a new movie but i can't stand this actress :'( and it's my favorite jane austen novel
I love Dakota but she can’t do an English accent, I find it surprising because it’s quite easy to master if you hire a voice coach
henry golding has white father privilege that's why he easily got the role. Imagine if his mum was white and his dad wasn't white. He wouldn't be getting hollywood roles
What is this?! My favorite book and it is unrecognizable. Write your own stories! I pity the generation getting to know Jane Austen through Netflix.
Persuasion is my favorite Jane Austen book. As much as I love Dakota, making Anne a carbon copy character of a modern woman rather than respecting her honest struggles and strengths during the historical moment the character lives in is actually a disservice to her ability. I would have loved to see Dakota portray Anne as she really is. It would have been phenomenal.
Persuasion deserves better respect than this.
I really love Dakota
But i’m not quite sure she is a good actress enough to portray such a deep character.
The other problem is that those new productions always try to make stories more Modern.
That’s very sad. They did the same with Agatha Christie’s Poirot.
A total 😢
Getting an adaptation right is about understanding the tone of the story, more than anything. That's why people still love the 2005 P&P, even though there's a lot that was changed from the book - the tone is right and it evokes the same emotions. Emma 2020 worked so well because the book is already a comedy, so quirky characters and funny bits don't seem out of place. You'll notice, however, that where they modernized scenes and actions and dynamics, they made sure to have accurate costumes, hair and makeup, which means there's a balance there that keeps it realistically period. This seems to have neither. It doesn't seem like the right tone, the right personalities, the right clothes, the right hair or the right makeup. It feels like they looked at the novel and thought hm, let's make Anne a little bit more Not Like Other Girls™. It might've been better if they went the Clueless route and only claimed to be based on the book, it would've made the changes less jarring.
It clearly says “based on” at the start.
Agree. For me it's the getting the tone of the characters right. I can get on board with costumes, music and even storylines differing from the books or other adaptations or historical accuracy, but making characters more "modern" or "relatable" never works and yes, it reeks of Not Like Other Girls, which is tired and off putting to say the least.
@@thewildaly yes, but then calling it Persuasion seems kind of dishonest, doesn’t it? Of course, not having seen it yet, we’re all speculating, but the trailer shows a pretty superficial treatment if comparing to the original, or other more serious film versions.
@@zeearchers720 I think what the trailer is trying to show us is that there was artistic license taken with the main character. But the plot, other characters, the conflict, and setting looked like they were based on the novel Persuasion by Jane Austen.
I can't bear the 2005 P and P so there is that. I do love the BBC Colin Firth one. To me he understood Darcy in a way no other actor has.
I think this looks like it might be good? I'll give it chance. She is a good actress.
Why would anyone do this?! Why is Anne being quirky and kind of flirty? Why would Anne make herself a funny element? Anne is a heroine to so many calm, intelligent, introverted, reflective and witty female personalities (which is so rare form of representation) and being one such personalities I am a bit disappointed with this version. This film makes me appreciate and love the novel and Anne (from the book) even more than before...
Yes the 1995 and 2007 movie versions do have the right tone. But this one doesn't
what is the piano music in the end?
I adore the 2007 BBC movie version of Persuasion with Sally Hawkins. It's one of my mom's favorite movies and she made me watch it as a teen and I loved it. Sally truly captured the spirit of Anne Eliot.
Agreed. Love that adaptation it was a stunning portrayal
My wife ended up frustrated by it because they screwed up the ending of the story. It was otherwise well acted.
The 1995 version is much better! (The ending of the 2007 version is a travesty, and the casting atrocious.)
It wasn't perfect, but it's definitely my favorite Persuasion adaptation so far. I don't know why so many people love the '95 version, it's one of the most boring movies I've ever seen, right up there with Jeremiah Johnson.
First off, I'll come out and say it. I enjoyed the Bridgerton series. However, not every period piece needs to be modelled after it. Certainly not Jane Austen!
Jane Austen's works are a blend of romance and strong, bold characters emerging amidst societal restrictions. Perhaps the actual movie will reflect this, but the trailer does not give me much hope of that.
I'm feeling quite let down and I haven't even watched the movie yet :-(
Agree - must all movies now be so WOKE and politically correct, while sacrificing accuracy ?
Yes exactly! Bridgerton works so well because it was unique and one of its kind when it came out. Every other period drama that copies bridgerton is just not going to be very successful.
Bridgerton is fantasy type world, and it's by a modern day author. But Austen wrote during the Georgian era, the CB Casting doesn't work very well, it detracts from the plot and makes it unbelievable. Unless they want to take the universal themes of Austen books, and set them in modern times, where they're are less limitations.
Bridgerton worked because it was a fantasy.
I have no idea why they're cutting and pasting it onto Jane Austen.
Having black/bi racial/Asian people as aristocrats in regency England immediately rips the viewer out of the world Netflix are supposed to be building.
Agreed we don’t need all period pieces to fit into the 2022 style.
Well, this has nothing in common with the real Anne from the books. She was a great female character - gentle, but strong in her own way. She was uncertain and made mistake when she was 19, but instead of making it worse by marrying someone else without love, she stayed faithful to her feelings, built strength of character and became the person everyone relies on. She was the quiet power center for her family and friends, never complaining and always ready to give snd help. And in the end these were the qualities that Wentworth recognized. Strength of character and intelligence have many aspects - no need to be a funny and sassy at all costs.
I saw this trailer yesterday and was like... no. No no no no no no no.... they did NOT try to turn my favorite of Jane Austen's novels into the Regency version of Fleabag. Persuasion is not a rom-com, it's a poignant story of regret, maturity, and second chances. Definitely giving this a miss and rewatching the movie with Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root ASAP.
Thanks for the recommendation. 'Persuasion' is my favourite Jane Austen novel and the tone of this trailer is all WRONG.
So funny you mentioned that. It DID remind me of Fleabag. So strange.
I am an Austen fan, but have yet to read ‘Persuasion’. I am thoroughly pleased to see avid readers as myself who have read it, are NOT pleased with this adaptation based on this particular trailer. The thoughtful, sensible analyses in the comments section against this adaptation’s tone and mood have been a pleasure to read. Keep sounding the displeased alarm, fellow bibliophiles.
Let me save you the trouble. Watch the 1995 version of Persuasion with Amanda Root. It captures the deep mature introspection of Persuasion. Even from the trailer, you see this film and this character are completely dissonant from the book.
If you want a Bridgerton-esque romcom, by all means watch this new film and have fun. But if you want to experience Jane Austen's brilliant and most mature book, watch the 1995 version or better yet, give it a read.
Yes! It’s still my favorite adaptation and by the looks of this trailer, that’s not going to change any time soon.
I agree 100 percent. I even watched the 1970ish version and 1995 was the best. I did not mind the 2007 version either but the 1995 version felt more mature and there was more nonverbal tension that felt more realistic. The tender way they announced their feelings was hands down the best.
@@elainajoyce9040 Yes! And I loved the way they covered Wentworth’s letter in the 1995 version too.
@@elainajoyce9040 that 70s adaptations is also special in its own way. I believe it here on youtube. I enjoy that one and the 1995 one at least once a year. Prob my fav austin book after p&p
Persuasion deserves a good & faithful film adaptation, and the 1995 version is it for me. I won't need this new one. I don't know why they had to change Anne like that. There was nothing wrong with her in the first place.
There’s a bbc persuasion movie that I highly recommend. It’s one of the best period movies and romance movies ever. I love Dakota and am excited to see it being adapted still in 2022 but this looks a little too quirky. It’ll be interesting to see but I hope it doesn’t bastardise the og and just make her fun and quirky. Anne is unlike many if Austens leading women much more introspective and introverted than other leads while still being extremely strong.
whats a period movie
@@hiteshadari4790 a movie set during a specific historical period that isn’t modern or recent - so the regency period, Victorian period, gilded age, etc !
Why did they make her into a pale copy of Lizzie Bennett instead of leaning into who Anne Elliot actually was?
It’s such a great movie, especially the music. You can really feel all the emotions.
The bbc movie is one of my absolute favourites. The leads and the whole storytelling and armosphere was just perfect
Netflix wants you to forget that England was full of English people
Blame it on the O' Bama's influence on the media.
Lesson for Netflix: don't mess with the Jane Austen's fandom 😂
I don't think I've ever disliked a trailer more in my whole life. My fav Austen novel... still waiting for a decent adaptation...
The fact that a really good sounding one with Sarah Snook was also supposed to be coming out and got cancelled hurts me.
ITV’s adaptation with Sally Hawkins was pretty good apart from some of the creative decisions in the ending
@@LadyAhro my thoughts too. So disappointed.
@@beomgguks970 I agree the adaptation is alright, BUT... my main pet peeve regarding Persuasion is how nobody seems to portray Anne's personality accurately. She is not meek, she is not dumb and she is not traumatised... she is simply too rational, sensible and mature for her age. Sally Hawkin's portrayal was not good IMHO - it was too anxious, bordering on unhinged. I like Amanda Root's portrayal better, but still... it was too meek for Anne. She is amazing as a character, complex and nuanced and interesting, and the best thing about the novel, and I wish I could see it one day on the screen.
I thought the 1995 version was an excellent adaptation. Have you seen it?
Just watched it. WHAT WAS THAT!?! Everything wrong with the Netflix adaptation of one of Jane Austen's greatest novels: Persuasion- EVERYTHING. Anne Elliot is my favorite Austen heroine. They butchered a masterpiece...
It's just this arrogant, modern attitude, not only thinking that they know better than Austen, but assuming that we in the 21st century cannot understand a book written over 200 years ago. Yet from the comments' section, it's obvious that people understand Austen's message today just as wel as her audience did when she published Persuasion. (Maybe even more so, given the volumes of studies into her works which have been published.) Why can't these filmmakers respect history and even admit that people who lived hundreds of years ago can still teach us?
They ruined Anne. They ruined Persuasion. I love Dakota but the script was treacherous
Netflix butchered Anne Elliot for me. Anne Elliot is most unique introvert character. And this is not Austen's Miss Elliott. So much disappointed for ruining a beautiful character.
As Netflix always does...
Looks good but I think a considerable deviation from the book. Dakota here seems more like a Lizzie Bennet. The Anne in the book is a lot more of an introvert and considerably less self assured.
No, no, no... You cant do that to Persuasion. You simply cant. You cant do that to Anne. 🥺
what is the piano music in the end?
I have never seen a trailer that does a book/story so wrong in my life. If this movie ends up being bridgerton 2.0 instead of being the beautiful heartwrenching story that it is, I will be very very sad.
Well, it's PG...so hopefully not Bridgerton 2.0.
@@mrbojangles1391 s2 bridgerton was pg save for a few minutes. 🤣
Little correction: Timeless stories. All Jane Austen's work is a masterpiece.
Agreeeeeee
Asten's work is a timeless masterpiece, this is a piece of crap.
EXACTLY 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I've always found it sad that her talent was never fully recognized until many years after her death, and the fact that we still read her novels today is telling, when most other authors of that time are long forgotten (not surprisingly, having read a few of their works!). In 1817, the only public reference to Jane Austen by name is in the newspapers that reported her death in July. Northanger Abbey and Persuasion, which came out in the December of that year, were simply advertised as by the Author of Pride and Prejudice etc.
In my opinion, Persuasion is Jane Austen’s most mature novel and its protagonist’s struggles dwell upon that exact concept. If this movie is revealed to be little more than this trailer depicts-a sappy, gushy, fourth wall breaking soap drama tailored to the bored couch-sitters returning from their ninth binge of Bridgerton, my soul will be all agony, no hope.
Please for the love of God, Netflix, prove me wrong.
Persuasion is one of my favourite books.. I've read it countless number of times.. Mostly because Anne's character resonates with mine. Anne is calm, quiet and introverted. Not mischievous or fiesty. There's a sort of serenity and grace in the character Austen had written. And though I shouldn't be judging this before watching it, the trailer has let me down immensely. This comes nowhere close to the previous adaptation in the late 2000s. Which I would easily prefer over this new modern one.
It was terrible. Anne was not Anne at all.
@@oldfashionemily did you watch it already?
I watch it last night, excited of course. The opening scene was glorious but 5 minutes into the movie my heart was just broken to pieces, they murdered my Anne.
I agree. Don't rewrite Jane Austen just because audiences expect feisty heroines!
@@marcogaming2099 oh, that's horrible! :( It's obvious from the trailer that that's what happened, but you've confirmed this sad thing.
That awful modern, loose hair is more than just an aesthetic choice, it shows how they view the character. Anne as a character would never, never look so unkept in the company of others.
Also in comparison to everyone else it stands out, but not in a good way.
Exactly!!!
Even when it's properly done - side part with sweeping bangs? Excuse me? Honestly my first thought when I saw photos of the costumes was that I've seen more accurate school productions. I didn't even recognize them as regency era. Someone had to tell me it was an Austen film. I thought it was a modern movie that just had a dark academia/cottagecore aesthetic.
Boo hoo
This is so she stands out, heh, and the audience can relate to her. It's been done in many period and historical pieces. The main actress (probably sometimes the main actor, too) also wears more modern dresses and accessories. It does look off, indeed. I think they overdid it with the loose hair, but the bun with bangs was just enough.
It's been a while but this is nothing like what I remember from the book. The tone is completely off.
I have only read 'Persuasion' twice, and I am cringing and irritated with this 'adaptation'.
Funny thing is, i was so excited for this Netflix Persuasion. I was excited when i saw the first look of Anne Elliot (i believe it came out last year) and i installed Netflix and paid for my Netflix last month just because i was waiting for this. Persuasion is my most favorite Austen book and Anne Elliot is my most favorite Austen character/heroine because of her sensible, quiet, calm, kind, humble, non self-centric characteristic. This is not her and this doesn't feel like Persuasion at all. We'll see but i'm already disappointed big time.
Same. This feels much more like Emma. Did they even read the novel?!
It doesn't come out until next month so why would you have paid for Netflix last month in order to see it? Sounds like you probably should have just waited if that's true.
@@thetramp123 because i was afraid to miss it and i didn't hv the app before so i decided to install it and also to register it fully and see what is inside i needed to pay
This reminds me heavily of what they did to Fanny Price in the 1999 Mansfield Park…it’s like all the quiet or introverted characters in Austen wind up with a Lizzie Bennet treatment to make them more acceptable to mainstream audiences.
This is a parody, not a film about Anne of Jane Austen
[Update after watching it: This was *BAD* !!! If Miss Austen were alive, she would have sued whomever wrote the script and directed this. This is not just changing a few things for the adaptation's sake or improving certain aspects. They fundamentally altered the protagonist's character to the point of her being the opposite of what she was in the book. They added anachronistic elements that served no other purpose than to say "look, we have modern references about social media culture". There were several moments when I was cringing hard from the second-hand embarrassment. An atrocious adaptation and an awful film. This is up there with Lynch's Dune, except it will never become a cult classic. Don't waste your time unless you wish to learn what to avoid in your own filmmaking attempts.]
Um... First of all, Jane Austen doesn't need further introduction. "From the author of Emma and Pride & Prejudice"? Completely unnecessary and borderline offensive imo. Second, I could tolerate Anne breaking the fourth wall. But Anne being a clumsy idiot? Not on my watch! Anne can be shy and quiet to outsiders. But she's also a woman who's been in charge of her family's daily life for years. And of course, she takes extra care in front of Captain Wentworth. So I definitely can't accept this.
Absolutely!
Well, if it is a modern take on Anne Elliot I think I'll pass. "We are worse than exes"?? What is that? That is not Persuation, what is happening with all period dramas nowadays? If you change every single thing, how people talk, how they look, how they interact with each other - it is no longer a period drama. Why would you even put Jane's name in it??
Axe everything like "Jane Austen" and "Persuasion" and rebrand it as something like 0,000001% Regency ish rom-com NEW film then it might be better. For NEW it is. This has nothring to to with Anne's character arc.
It has pretty dresses, so it gets a pass from most viewers.
Why do they have to force different ethnicities in a period drama set at a time when there were virtually no people of colour in England and even less in the circles in which the protagonists lived - what is wrong with making an accurate drama - this is so jarring.
Ghettoization of Jane Austen. Tragic.
The racial aspect is the least of your concerns. And people deserve to see themselves in media. Maybe we just shouldn't keep adapting Jane austen if that bothers you
@@flask223 Agree. Stop adapting Jane Austen or other classics if you cannot do them properly. People do deserve to see themselves in media if don’t appropriately and not misrepresented to serve a political agenda.
This seems to have a completely different vibe than the book- not in a good way. Persuasion is my favorite Austen novel, because of its quieter tone, introspective, somewhat shy protagonist and deeply romantic in a quiet, mature way not so dramatic. This did not seem so, and did not seem like Ann!
Although i have never read the book, what i loved about the 2007 ITV version, featuring the brilliant Sally Hawkins, is the intensity of pain Anne goes through. So raw and so real. We feel her anguish and love her all the more for it. This new film seems to create the wrong tone for my favourite Jane Austen novel
Why can't they just leave these books alone? Why the constant lack of respect for history?
Yes, I love this version.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 Leftists only know how to destroy culture and cultural Icons. Expect it to continue when they occupy all the institutions.
The 2007 version was awesome. Why have they made Anne like Brigitte Jones?
The best version of all movies!!
It's tedious how characters of European descent from an English author have been replaced with actors of African descent. Must we have our history and culture erased?
The character of Anne is someone who was persuaded to not marry her beau, and her "bloom has been lost". She is a quiet but upstanding honorable soul. Anne is not quirky. I like Dakota ok, but am sure there is a British actress that should have gotten this role. Especially since all of the other actors are British to my knowledge - Finally, I have never seen someone's hair down in a period piece unless they were a child or going to bed. --- This all being said, I will watch and most likely enjoy this. I do hope the yearning love of the characters comes through.
I think colorblind casting is lame. If non-white people had the necessary funding to tell their own stories, they wouldn't need to be cast into European period pieces. As a Black person, this doesn't make me feel "included", it makes me feel annoyed. I like my historical narratives to be accurate, and putting races of people where they don't belong is aggravating. Notice this is only done with historically White stories. White people would clearly rather that stuff non-Whites into their stories than actually fund non-White stories. This actually looks like an intriguing film, but I really can't stand the random so-called "POC". I'd much rather watch an African, Asian, or Indigenous American period piece.
As many others mentioned, I also feel this is missing the tone of the book. I love that it focusses on an introverted, quiet character who's story arc is to finally stand up for what she really wants through the sea of people who tell her what to do. Further, and I know this has been done before ina persuasion adaptation (and it annoyed me in that one as well): But personally, the character breaking the 4th wall and talking to us through the camera really takes me out of enjoying the story.
When was it done before??
@@sararadley5702 In the 2007 adaptation the actress looked into the camera quite a lot. I assume the 2022 version might be paying homage to the stylistic choice.
Writer, producer, director : How much different than the book do you want this to be?
Netflix : YES
*Btw do you remember back then when they made Mansfield Park's Fanny Price as an extrovert, Lizzie Bennet kind of a girl? And how was the reception? Yes, this seems like a good idea, Netflix.
I am not feeling this Regency/Modern day setting (the diverse cast, modernized dialogue, those damn curtain bangs!). It worked for Bridgerton but I highly doubt it will work for a Jane Austen adaptation.
Apparently, they've decided to update this story by making Anne into a buffoon and her father into a narcissistic ninny. Also, Wentworth spent much of the novel ignoring Anne when he returned after eight years, actively pursuing other women in front of her. They barely had any conversations together. That provided much of the pathos of the original novel; they both had a great deal of unspoken pain from their separation that they were forced to repress. This is NOT a comedy and it distorts the novel to make it one.
Anne’s father IS a narcissistic ninny
@@srkh8966 I don't recall that. I remember him being house and class proud but not physically vain.
@@QueenBoadicea Oh, no-he has mirrors everywhere and shirked from being around unattractive men and women
The renters of the house were disturbed by the number of mirrors (and I think something about the placement too?). And physical appearance was a major source of conversation.
@@andurilcuivie Exactly. Much is made of the unattractive complexions of naval officers in particular.
Show me you didn't read Persuasion without telling me you've never read it
LOL
Why so many blacks in this movie??? We are talking about the English rural nobility in the regency period. There were no blacks among them. And in Jane Austen's books there are no blacks either. you put blacks in everything. That's not diversity.
It seems like the last few years any show/movie set in England hundreds of years ago has to have a multiracial cast. It really throws off the believability of the period it’s set in. If they made movies about ancient Chinese dynasties with other races playing nobles it would look ridiculous but now seems ok for England. What’s going on?
Relax
@@aurwood68 he is correct
I have seen this so many times I stopped beliveing slavery ever happened
It satisfies and relieves my poor heart quite a lot, seeing all the austen lovers unite as once to acknowledge what a monstrosity this film is.
This remake was a crime to literature. All cast must go to prison
I see Dakota Johnson, I click.
Same! 😉
Fr 🤍
Sameee🤌🏽
Ditto!
i see her and run away
They just had to ruin a Jane Austin classic. 😒
Is Netflix really confused why they're down hundreds of thousands of subscribers when the quality is like this? What can you really expect when quality suffers like this?
What did they do to Anne? Couldn't she be a kind-hearted, reserved and quiet person, like in the book? Why must she be audacious and flirty? I don't get what goes in the head of script writers, procucers and directors nowadays! If they insist on turning good books into movies, they could at least make it more faithful to the narrative. Characters are losing their personalities in order to fill the demands and expectations of society's agendas.
Now, woman must be strong and independent, so all female characters will be strong, independent, flirty, sassy and sarcastic.
Now, everybody must be represented, so let's put asian and colored people as wealthy and in high rank positions in 1700-1800 society, even though that's absolutely not a bit historic accurate. I mean, how would the Japanese feel if they put Benedict Cumberbatch to play a feudal lord from the Kamakura era? As a Brazilian, I assure you that I would be very offended if they put Chris Evans to play Machado de Assis (famous Brazilian writer), especially if they make dialogues in Spanish (because, for those ignorant of this fact, we speak as much Spanish in Brazil as they speak Welsh in China)
You hit the nail on the head about their absurd casting decisions. (Benedict Cumberbatch as a feudal lord from the Kamakura era, LOL!)
After seeing this trailer and reading all the critical comments a few days ago, I couldn't stop myself from reading the book to see what the fuss was all about. Rewatching the trailer now I couldn't believe my eyes. The story presented here has hardly anything to do with the actual characters and atmosphere of the book. Eventhough I still have the book fresh in my mind, I couldn't even figure out who most of the character were supposed to be. I have to wholeheartedly agree with all the comments before me and express how disappointed I am.
Well, at least this travesty brought you to what I consider to be one of Jane Austen's most beautiful books. Certainly my favourite.
The phrase “still waters run deep” could be a portrait of Anne Eliot. Her strength by the end of the novel is a result of her own silent recognition of her private feelings.
Why do people keep coming back to Jane Austen, 200 years later? Because the material is great. So, there’s really no point in making an adaptation, unless you want to actually bring Jane Austen’s story to life- yes, set in the regency era, because she wrote contemporary novels.
I sincerely hope that this trailer is nothing like the movie.
Well, this trailer is everything like the movie 😅
@@scarlettelee4287 hahaha thanks for the warning!
@@scarlettelee4287 LOL!
did you even look for history at school?What aristocrats among blacks in England of that era? 🤔
It’s like Bridgeton and Fleabag had a child but not in a good way
I watched it and if you love Jane Austen do her honor and don’t watch this.
I can’t believe they had the courage to put this out.
They had no shame. Stupid people and bad writers always think they are brilliant and modern.
'Courage'? More like the audacity.
This version seems to have made Anne quirky and adorable, but she is the most mature and calm of Austen's heroines. I guess they are going for the 2020 Emma version feel. This might be interesting and bring levity to an otherwise melancholy story.
Edit: If they overdo the quirky ditzy thing it would take away from the deep love she had for Wentworth and the overall depth of her character. Anne is not Elizabeth Bennet, Persuasion is not an enemies to lovers story. Its a second chance, 8 years pining for your true love and all that. They are truly haunted by their long separation. She has such heart wrenching internal monologues about Friedrich in the book. I guess my rant is just saying I care about the book and I hope this movie doesn't make their love superficial.
So I wasn't the only one who felt this Emmafication of the new adaptation. I'm okay with it, I loved the new Emma movie. I just hope they will keep this deep pining and love and understanding.
@@Natalyflyer I hope so too. Anne is amazing in the novel and her level-headedness is one of the reasons Wentworth loves her. I hope they don't make her too ditzy in an attempt to modernise.
@@SK28th - Anne does not seem ditzy at all, in the trailer. She just seems down to earth and relatable. Which is probably why they went for a 2020 “Emma” meets “Bridgerton” vibe. The quirkiness updates the source material, for modern audiences.
@@ChienaAvtzon I know, she doesn't seem ditzy in the trailer, just quirky and that's a far cry from the responsible and muted Anne Elliot of the book. But that's okay, it might even be fun. As long as they don't overdo it because that would take away from the deep love she had for Wentworth and the overall depth of her character. Anne is not Elizabeth Bennet, Persuasion is not an enemies to lovers story. Its a second chance, 8 years pining for your true love and all that. I guess my rant is just saying I care about the book and I hope this movie doesn't make their love superficial.
@@ChienaAvtzon She would never ever shout out of a window like this.
Woke checkmarks take priority over entertainment and story here.
As usual. These people need to admit that they have run out of ideas. And they are not willing to learn from the classics that they keep distorting.
Oh great. Netflix just managed to butcher my favorite Jane Austen book and even replaced all the characters with personalities that have nothing to do with the original.
Feels like bridgerton, eh
Agreed, it likely takes place around the same era, and the plot and costumes seem similar.
Bridgerton isn't nothing of new there are a lot of movies before that
@@trinaq and there is a diversity of ethnicity that make it absolutely not historically accurate
@@emmabarbot6964 its fiction nothing is accurate, its not supposed to be
@@winnie8285 It's not supposed to be completely ridiculous though, is it? I can't wait for this trend to pass. You are not doing POC any favors but creating a
backlash.
Persuasion is a very autumnal novel, mostly about regret. I can't, for the life of me, understand why would you turn Anne Elliot into Elizabeth Bennet?
Elizabeth Bennet is better than this, this is a movie about Bridget Jones
Elizabeth Bennet would never have behaved this stupidly. She valued proper behaviour.
Why is it becoming popular to apply modern sensibilities to classic European stories? This is just as weird as watching a story about ancient China and having Hispanic, white, and black people in traditional Chinese garb. It just doesn’t work because…history. Why not just write new compelling stories intended to be modern, feminist, and diverse?
One of my favorite things about Jane Austen's novels is that all of the women are very different. Emma is different from Lizzie, who is different from Fanny, who is different from Anne. And none of them are like Marianne. They really, really don't have to all be Lizzie. (Even the 2005 Lizzie is too "Lizzie" for the time period). Still, this isn't for me and it looks enjoyable as a romp only veeerrry loosely based on my favorite Austen novel. '95 still reigns supreme.
Talking about Lizzie - I like the 1995 version the best. They just captured the whole mood of the novel. The 2005 version is too modern.
The closest adaption to Persuasion by Jane Austen is the 2007 version starring Sally Hawkins. Anne Elliot isn’t your typical heroine. She isn’t necessarily brave or bold. That is why she is relatable. Feisty heroines are nice but sometimes one can relate only to a character who chooses to get persuaded by societal pressure. Anne is simple, smart, considerate and quiet. This trailer doesn’t portray any of Anne’s qualities or the slow brewing longing that the leads felt. Let masterpieces be. You don’t need to take creative liberties with everything in the name of modernness.
I fully agree with you. So much love the 2007 adaptation. I must say that Rupert Penry-Jones also played amazingly. He was so cold and distant with Ann, but at the same time, short glances, touches, addresses to her showed that he was also thrilled by meeting with her and still deeply in love. His confession at the end is heartbreaking. But what is shown in the trailer does not at all convey the tension between the characters and the depth of their feelings.
@@Анастасия-ч8ю7е Oh I absolutely loved Rupert Penry-Jones! The only reason I didn’t mention him in my comment was because we didn’t see much of Wentworth in this trailer for me to compare. Rupert was the best part of the movie for me and exactly how imagined Wentworth when I read the book!
Not brave or bold, but quietly, almost hopelessly, determined. It's a tolerably wonderful book, and this trailer gives me no hope that the film does it justice.
The 1995 BBC version starring Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds is excellent. They convey so much emotion and longing as Anne and Wentworth. When they finally come together again, it's beyond beautiful. Very true to the source material.
This feels like an adaptation made for people who are vaguely aware of Jane Austen but haven't actually read any of her novels.
The title and names are the same, but…… characters, plot, theme … not so much.
I agree. It's got a Bridgerton feeling.
A couple of days ago I watched the first 10 seconds of this trailer, and I was intrigued, excited. Tonight I watched the whole trailer, and I ended up shocked, and not in a good way. However, I will consider it worth watching, for it led me to this comments section, full with honest opinions from knowledgeable and thoughtful readers who definitely get Jane Austen and her dear Anne Elliot much better than Netflix ever will. I like Dakota, though. I think she could have been a good Anne; she has the physique, also her voice and eyes are so sweet. I do believe she would have been great at transmitting Anne's kind, passionate, silent heart. If only...
@Noemi I completely agree, the worst part about it is that she is SUCH a good choice for the role, her calm, quiet demeanor in interviews that I've seen make me think that she is a perfect choice...but the best actor in the world couldn't save a badly written adaptation, it is such a shame 😔
@@zionmommy Exactly 💯
If only.
African people in that year? Mmm
@@destynova693 I agree.....Not the best place to fuse bridgerton