I feel I should mention that I am not in agreement with Dr. Blomberg on the implications of identifying Jesus as Yahweh, but these interviews are not about only showing scholars saying stuff I agree with. They are about allowing various scholars to share THEIR opinions after reviewing TPT. I do think the point about Yahweh is still relevant because it was an important point in Dr. Blomberg’s review and it has to do with Simmons’ unjustified selection of variant readings when it suits him. In all these interviews there are points where I would like to push back on something a scholar said but I didn’t for a couple reasons. 1. I am in substantial agreement with them and those points of pushback would be secondary to the overall evaluation of TPT. The elongated discussion of the implications of calling Jesus “Yahweh” would take us away from the focus on the translation. 2. These interviews serve as a check against not only the work of Brian Simmons but also against my own reviews of TPT. When the scholars say things differently than I would I think it’s a good thing overall because it allows for you to hear multiple opinions while you form your own opinion. If I were to edit out things I think differently on then it would decrease the overall value of the project. With all that in mind I decided to just let Dr. Blomberg share his view on this and to stow my own further questioning of it for the time being. If you, like me, don’t see the problem with calling Jesus “Yahweh” then you can, like me, still see the problem of randomly using unlikely variant readings while appealing to fictitious “Aramaic originals.” What I’m referring to is a point at 1:01:11. I absolutely agree that Jesus is not the Father but am not convinced that calling Jesus “Yahweh” is the same as calling Him “the Father” and thereby blurring the distinction between God the Father and God the Son. Further, I do think that in other places the Bible does say that Jesus is Yahweh. At least that’s my understanding of it.
Excellent video pastor Mike. No need to apologize about the extensive nature and in-depth study that you were taking. We need more thoughtfulness, more doctrine more seriousness about doctrine not less. May I recommend Peter Gentry? He is a world-class Hebrew and Greek scholar and would be a wonderful interview as well
At first it seems like a no-no to call Jesus Yahweh but as I think about the places where the term Yahweh is used.... doesn’t it more accurately describe the Godhead? Maybe? That’s what I’m getting from it. I may be missing something, but whenever I think of the Israelites and Yahweh, I understand that GOD was there with them (you know, not just the Father or not just the Spirit, and not even just Jesus), every person of the Godhead.
I am so glad I saw this comment Mike because that was the one point in the videos where I was like, "But I thought some of the Biblical authors intentionally blur the lines between Jesus and Yahweh."
I’m really glad you mentioned this, as a student in Bible college I keep running into the issue of just believing everything I hear from scholars, which I know is not always the wisest. It’s good to remember that biblical scholars may be intelligent and dedicated but they are not infallible, your comment reminded me of that.
Thanks for mentioning this. While I greatly respect Dr. Blomberg-and appreciate much of his excellent work-I think he misspoke or was confused about traditional language about the Trinity and Jesus being spoken of as kurios in the NT (cf. Romans 10:9-10, 13 among other passages and several significant studies on NT Christology in the last 10-20 years). Hopefully, he realizes this or a friend kindly brings it up to him! Also, I believe he is mistaken about 1 Corinthians 7:36-38. These are, in fact, some of the more difficult verses to translate in the New Testament due to a few ambiguities in the text that can lead to two quite different meanings. (Compare 4-5 translations from different eras and traditions and/or the NET Bible note at the end of 1 Cor 7:38.) This doesn't help the TPT's case here, though, since it doesn't really go with either legitimate option.
"what if the church has been robbed for 2000 years.." If people cannot see the absolute danger of that statement. The guy is literally saying "God has never empowered or used anyone properly yet in relation to translating and interpreting his word for 2000 years and only now is God finally empowering and using somebody for the first time - and that person is me"
I personaly do think some knowledge is lost for 2000 years. But it isn't necessary for salvation and it would make me very suspicious if I'm the only one who would get that revalation.
Brian Simmons story of a visit from Jesus sounds eerily similar to Joseph Smith! Joseph Smith also received a special revelation that lead to the Mormon Bible!
i wouldn't say God hides nothing. we know of several mysteries as told by the new testament authors. there's also the day and hour of Jesus's return which only the Father knows. however, i think we can be confident that God fully reveals who He is to believers through Scripture and the Holy Spirit. as for Biblical mysteries and difficult-to-understand passages, those certainly exist. i also don't agree to the notion of Biblical "secrets". a secret is something that is there but is intentionally hidden. i don't believe God has intentionally hidden any Biblical knowledge within Scripture from His church. rather, i think that it's our lack of ability to understand certain Biblical knowledge that cause them to be mysteries, not secrets.
Because God wouldn't contradict himself? A single person can't just come up with a translation that heavily caters to a certain sect of charismatic/pentacostal teaching
Actually that's a lousy point. God helps every one of us every day, and He uses other people to do it. Often that means criticism. Brian Simmons is on record that God told him the critics will make him a better translator.
@@JewandGreek but that also seems to be a lousy point. If I were to say, “God told me that critics were going to make me a better translator.” Then I translate “the sky is red” to “the sky is blue” does it make my statement that the sky is blue true? Just because someone says, “God told me” does not make it so. Sometimes it’s “my god told me.”
@@JewandGreek so, let me get this straight. Brian says God told him that everyone has gotten the translation wrong, beaths inspiration and directly downloads the information.... but then needs critics to make him better? I mean aside from the fact that brian did not say the critics would help him make a better translation... brian clearly said that God "warns" him that he will be criticized for his downloads from God.
It's so ironic that Mr. Simmons, claiming "special secret knowledge," would undertake this "translation" of scripture and overlook that, when it comes to Corinthians, one of the reasons Paul wrote 1 Corinthians was to combat the Corinthian culture of claiming special, secret knowledge and how it was creating chaos and division within church...
Yep, Paul was extremely well versed and knowledgeable and that was a great account of the Church’s first encounter with Gnosticism. Completely crazy how people are failing to see that, and just goes to show they are still thirsting more for the world and men than the bread of Christ.
Thank you dearly for this comment. All through the video series, I kept thinking that often times, when people claim special secret knowledge or revelation, they end up being heretics. History is full of them.
Show me where all the money trail leads and you have your answer. Run run run as fast as you can from mr S and his bible! And it is his bible . He tells a very tall tale of how it came to him. And that alone should make one question the entire thing!
Appreciate your work Mr Wing. It actually helps the newly saved. I am still a baby Christian at an old age and my new church is slowly promoting the passion version. I am starting to see the church also support Simmons and Johnson which my spirit is saying they are not the teachers to follow. Thank you.🙏
You need to correct his nonsense and misinformation regarding Yahweh since he will confuse folks on this matter. Jesus is Yahweh even though he is not the Father, since Yahweh is not only the Father's name. And he must have not read Hebrews 1:10-12 or Romans 10:9-13. Lord willing, I will be refuting his misinformation in my stream later today.
What was that one thing I read once? Something about "scripture is not up to personal interpretation..."? Oh? He's saying this isn't personal interpretation, it's from God eh? Yeah...ok....Bet God has a different opinion.
Once again, as I say every time, THANK YOU!!! This is so needed. I love how you and your guests are always balance, always careful not to slander or demean, but gently and humbly point out the obvious problems with this “translation”. Thank you again!
My question for Simmons: why would Paul write to the Corinthians in Aramaic over Greek, given that Corinth is in Greece? Maybe he has the erroneous idea that when people speak a second language they are always translating in their head
That’s the key. I don’t think he understands that. This is exactly why I can’t learn other languages. Simmons can’t imagine that if they spoke Aramaic as a native language, that they wouldn’t write in Aramaic.
@@benedictalmarines721 Islam started with a man who claimed to hear messages from God and every follower of his since believes he is a prophet from god. This man had his visions and messages written down in a new book because he said the Bible was not an accurate and complete message any longer. He said God was doing a new thing in his day, and only he had this secret revelation from God. The movement started small but grew and now is a major religion. The man's name was Mohammed. In order to win over acceptance from Christians, he had to acknowledge Jesus was a prophet, and Jews so Moses was a prophet, and the original Bible was accurate but through the years became corrupted and untrustworthy. So people needed a new prophet, himself, in order to know God. It's a repetitive strategy used over and over again for the devil to combat true faith and true religion. Cults and Islam share all this in common.
@@OlivusOrchards Maybe he would have been at least more believable if he was being persecuted or sawn in two like Isaiah or Elijah. More believable but still false.
I always wondered why he thinks he needs to rewrite the Bible and thinks it comes from God. That would imply God didn't do the job right the first time.
I'm so glad you will be appearing on Dr. Brown's show to discuss TPT. You will have so much great information to share with him and his audience after all these epic interviews!
Secrets of Hebrew and Greek sounds like Joseph Smith translating the Golden Plates. Does Simmons have a magic seer stone he uses in a hat? I wonder if Brian Simmons could translate the Book of Abraham?
An “angel called passion” 😳 that’s right there was all I needed to hear to know that this is very questionable. Thank you for this informative discussion
"[God] promised to give me new understanding and a new, fresh revelation of his word." ~ Brian Simmons “Be assured, there is nothing new in theology except that which is false.” ~ Charles H. Spurgeon
As a non native English speaker I don't care about this translation. And my church and friends won't use it. But I like this series because I learn about general bible translation.
@@kelvyquayo agreed! He’ll make a fortune from the sales. It’s sad... As I would desire prayer for my soul, I pray for his. God desires no one to perish.
I don't personally need more convincing not to read the passion translation, but I've listened to each of these interviews with great interest and will continue to do so. I've learned a lot about Bible translation and the scholars behind it. I've been so impressed with their humility and the amount of grace they put into critiquing Simmons, as well as their genuine love for God's word. It's given me an even greater appreciation for our English translations and has even made me rethink my total rejection of "The Message".
I'm looking forward to Mike's evaluation of The Message after all this, as I'm same position as Mike in that I don't like it, but may need to review my stance following all these scholars' interviews... I still can't get over the Lord's prayer in it though... eurgh.
I have a FAQ book written by R. C. Sproul and in the section where he discusses “The Book of Books” and answering questions regarding the differences in translations he says something that struck a cord with me...”The person who loves God with all of his mind is not casual in how he handles the Scriptures.” ❤️
I might’ve commented this on another one of your videos, but I think it’s crazy how Simmons is talking about the number of footnotes in the text, but the guys doing the Legacy Standard Bible talked about translating certain texts in particular ways to limit and reduce the need for footnotes. I just find that interesting.
YES!!! YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! So what of the pastors and seminar leaders allowing this tripe into the church? Remember Jezebel supported the prophets of Baal.
I just want to say, the point about Communion was amazing. I don’t like saying it because it sounds terrible but I hated Communion growing up because of those reasons, that it was always presented as make sure your heart is right or something bad might happen, and it’s scary because what if I forgot something to confess and repent of and I take Communion, will I be struck dead?! So thank you for even doing a minor teaching on this topic
@@arthurbrugge2457 Are you asking me? I don't actually know at the moment. I grew up Southern Baptist, but have been attending an online church that the pastor was ordained at a Southern Baptist seminary, the church was launched from a United Methodist church and this particular church is a part of the Acts 29 network, and in person I attend an inner-denominational
@@-BekahJoy- Thank you. I was wondering what kind of denomination could lead to such a view on communion. Anyway, I'm glad to know that you got out of that mindset. The pastor/priest where I go always reminds the flock that communion is for sinners, and has a chat with those who feel they are unworthy.
Honestly, from the rhetoric Simmons' uses, he comes across to me like a con-artist trying to sell his version of the Bible. Worse, he comes across like the con-artists you see in tv shows, just watch a few episodes of the show "Leverage." Worse still, people don't seem to recognize that. I'm rather impressed Mike hasn't said as much even though so many of the clips he has played of Simmons' has Simmons outright saying people need to purchase his version of the Bible.
I think it's important so we can see that Brian is not being misquoted, but the language is coming straight from the horses mouth. Mike probably comes under a lot of attack for exposing this and I think he is wise to put the videos into his video so no one can claim he's lying or twisting anything.
But if it could be done without us having to listen to Brian's claptrap, that would be great! For me, I used to read the passion and be in this sort of deluded movement and the videos of brian along with the explanation of truth has helped deliver me and set me back into truth.
It is grating, but I think, super important when sharing this video. It would sound like Mike was just making some of these crazy statements up if he was not proving it with video.
Blomberg is wrong about YHWY not being equated with Jesus, it's in John. "Before Moses was I Am." YHWH is a term referring to the being of God not to one of the persons.
Saying that "Jesus isn't Yahweh" is heresy. The singular NAME that the Father, Son, and Spirit share (Matthew 28:19) is Yahweh. If Christ isn't Yahweh then you just screwed a huge part of the New Testament quoting OT passages about Yahweh and applying it to Christ. Smh
I came here to comment this. You are so right. I understand that the name "Yahweh" doesn't show up in that verse. Yet, would Blomberg said just shows he has not spent much time understanding the doctrine of the Trinity. He sounded more like a Tritheist
also, Simmons says repeatedly that he has studied the MANUSCRIPTS.... but he must mean the Greek and Aramaic texts in printed editions... but by saying "manuscripts", it sort of gives it a "specialist" ring... :)
I hear him say manuscripts and picture like Nicolas cage in national treasure with the light and magnifying glass wearing rubber gloves looking at the declaration of independence
Mr Simmons says "the homonymic language is the key to understanding the Book of Revelation". No! The key to understanding the Book of Revelation is the Holy Spirit.
very insightful! by brian simmons saying homonyms are the key, he gives himself latitude and justification to make this "translation" say anything he wants it to and call it a work coming straight from God...THAT is scary! i pray he indeed wakes up to the truth of God!
I used to think that The Message was the worst Bible version. I still regard it as terribly corrupted, for many of the same kinds of reasons that TPT is wrong. Then came other ‘Bibles’ that are even worse than Peterson’s paraphrase. Now we have The Passion Translation, which is on a par with the ‘Bible’ of the Jehovah’s Witnesses founder; Charles Taze Russell, or the ‘Bible’ of Joseph Smith, that he produced to go with his Book of Mormon. Simmons’ claim that he was personally commissioned by God to produce TPT, in an encounter where he talks about being tempted to steal something from this so-called Library of Heaven. The number of terribly unscriptural things in Simmons’ accounts of these trips tp Heaven become insurmountable to anyone with a reasonable knowledge of the scriptures. The idea that sin in any form can exist in Heaven is borderline blasphemy and impossible. The idea that God has allowed His word to be hidden away for the last two millennia and is only now bringing forth the REAL truth of His word, through some guy who talks about visits to Heaven, where he contemplated STEALING a book from this imaginary place in Heaven, is so preposterous that my vocabulary struggles to find the words to describe how appallingly bad it is.
I heard secret revelation multiple times in the first two minutes. That’s all I need to know about him. “Test the spirits to know that they are from God.” John 4:1
A good interview. However, one of the things I wish you had discussed is pertaining to the nature of the Greek itself. To be certain, the textual issues against an original Aramaic are quite compelling. However, more than this is the fact that the Greek of the New Testament does not read like a translation of something into Greek. We have the LXX, we know what it looks like when Hebrew and Aramaic are translated into Greek. The philosophy tends to be fairly literalistic, and the result is that the Greek is often fairly clumsy and wooden, and sometimes downright atrocious. The Greek of the New Testament varies widely in style and substance, and in some cases it is not at a literary quality, like what we find in Mark's Gospel, or John's Gospel or the Revelation. But you'd have to be on some pretty hardcore drugs to tell me that Hebrews, 1 Peter or the second half of Acts are translations, just to name the most obvious examples. Although it was admitted in the interview that it would be very strange if letters written to the diaspora were written in Aramaic. Just another angle that you guys could have criticized TPT, although let's face it, there as a wealth of materials available as far as that is concerned.
~46:45 min Simmons says something like 'I know languages, I'm a linguist', but an actual linguist/language scientist would never say that. We talk about 'Language' as a phenomena, not 'languages' (although Linguists, especially field linguists, might learn a language in their work) This suggests to me a lack of actual Linguistics training, which doesn't bode well for any defense of his manuscript. And I'll also point out that being a Linguist and being a Translator are two different jobs though they are related. I'm a Linguist, I don't pretend to be a Translator.
I admire Craig Blomberg. As an ex-Mormon, I am intrigued by his collaboration with Mormon Stephen Robinson. I look forward to his view of Brian Simmons' "translation" as reliable as Joseph Smith, in my view.
When I first saw Brian Simmon’s claims of his “process”, I pictured Joseph Smith right away. “Downloads” > visions, Angels visiting, etc. The parallels are crazy. (I am also an ex-Mormon.)
I’m so glad there are other former Mormons looking to the Bible! Here in Seattle most tend to jump so far off the deep end when they leave. Our family looked for a biblical only church.
This is just me and my opinion, but I wish that Dr. Bloomberg as a scholar, would take more of a stand against this paraphrase version and not be so wishy-washy on what I feel are important points and topics about scripture. I may be reading him wrong and if so then I am wrong. I appreciate his scholarship and knowledge, yet I wish he were more passionate about what I see as the undermining of God’s breathed word to us.
If Mr. Simmons was hearing from God, angels, etc., How did he "test the spirits"? If he didn't do anything, his "translation" is no better than the New Testament translation done by Johannes Greber, who said that he was "helped" by a "good spirit" to help him with difficult passages too. Because of the claims of being aided by so-called spirits, this book is spiritual poison in my opinion.
Hey, Idk if you have actually attempted that, but wouldn't it be very interesting if you actually managed to get Brian Simmons on and talk with him about his own translation on the basis of these reviews?
@@MikeWinger Well said, Mike. At least you are demonstrating a level of integrity that is utterly absent in Brian Simmons. There are some who would try to persuade you to reveal all, but please don't give in to any temptation to do that. Saying nothing speaks volumes.
I like this interview with Dr. Blomberg. He’s preternaturally analytical and calm…. I would absolutely present this to one of my friends who showed themselves willing to talk to me about this translation. This man is even-handed and toned - showing significant emotion only when Simmons made the “original Aramaic” claim. I pray I get the chance to discuss. I think I lost a friend, already, in my posts.
In the discussion of the use of Yehovah in 15;47. My understanding was that יהוה is the name of God, a able to be applied equally to any person of the trinity. That the reason Jesus didn't use this name for himself when being questioned is that the understanding of the Jewish leadership at the time was that יהוה referred only to the Father and thus to get the point across that he was God but distinct from the Father He refrained from using this name. Am I mistaken? If so can someone please detail why this is not the case.
Develop a personal fellowship with God through Christ daily following the leading of the Holy Spirit, so you’ll know truth from error and deception. 1 Corinthians 2:6-16 John 14:26🕊
Following Jesus the way the Bible says, and getting to know His Word is the only way to have personal fellowship with God through Jesus Christ. Otherwise you might get a deceiving spirit instead of the Holy Spirit, like Brian Simmonds.
I would suggest sending him the link to the video & paper (along with all the others) and ASKING him to share what HE thinks about it... I did it the wrong way before the project started (after I think the second video about the TPT) and so I'm having to try the long way round now by getting the elders to fight the battle instead, but they don't seem to share my hatred for it (I think anything that distorts God's word should be hated).
Say, "Hello Pastor, I am researching Bible versions and after watching this video (insert link to this video) not sure if TPT is the best. Is what they say accurate?"
Incredibly helpful... I had a check in my heart immediately and I totally was expecting to love it (so i was confused)... but kept thinking, ‘that’s not in my KJV’ Made my figurative hair stand on end. In places it sounds so good it really does tickle my ears Very helpful thank you - just found your channel Great speakers balanced analysis
Thank you for doing this project! The more I hear Simmons' statements I can't help but be reminded of Joseph Smith. It's so sad that many people in the church blindly trust anything with a Christian label on it 😔 Praying for your ministry and other ministries like yours that teach and equip people to think critically and actually search the scriptures 🙏
These interviews are helpful, and Dr Blomberg is a good scholar. However, I think dr Blomberg is wrong concerning Jesus not being Jahve (1:01:11). In the Old Testament, there is more than one person who is called Jahve. The angel of the Lord is also the Lord Himself. In the New Testament we have the text about being saved by confessing Jesus as Lord in Romans 10, where Paul proves his point by quoting Joel 2:32. If we look up Joel 2:32, we find that the Hebrew word that is translated by Lord (Greek "kyrios"), it is Jahve.
Oh, dear.... 😳😳 I'm not reformed, but my goodness.... 🤦♀️🤦♀️ The Word of God is perfect AS IT IS. It doesn't need any fancy, frou-frou, fresh "revelations" or "secrets" kind of rendering of the Scriptures. What's been good enough for the saints these last 2000 years, is good enough for us. Mr. Simmons, bless his soul, went "beyond what was written", something the Word says not to, AND he basically says that Jesus/Holy Spirit told him to.... NOT GOOD. NOT GOOD AT ALL. Very dangerous, to say the least....
A reliable scripture is the only way a Christian can grow in wisdom and knowledge. A faulty translation vacates the hope God conveys in His word. Sort of like a badly translated user manual.
Thank you Pastor Mike for giving us this information on TPT. I enjoyed Dr Bloomberg’s thoughtful responses today. He was trying to be balanced in what he said and not unnecessarily harsh and unkind. But he left no doubt in my mind that he thinks TPT is not a translation and a questionable paraphrase as well. I got Dr Bloomberg’s book ‘Can we still believe in God?’ on Kindle today and can’t put it down. Highly recommended to answer 10 questions your non-Christian friends frequently ask. Wish I’d read this book earlier! It is a gem.
1st thing you need to know is he created his own Bible version. Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. The same thing that’s wrong with this guys bible is the same with the Book of Mormon. The JV bible. The Koran. The NIV, ESV, NLT, CEV etc. read them all and compare them to the King James. If the Bibles have contradictions one of them must be wrong. Here’s a hint. They all (except the KJV) make it about works. If you love God but are working your way to heaven then what did Jesus die for?
After listening to the entire interview I need to make an apology. The direct questions that Mike asked Dr. Bloomberg at the end and his answers were the very encouraging. My bad for wrongly judging him before listening to the entirety of the podcast. Great interview Mike, thanks.
Releasing a Bible book by book... clever: multiply your potential sales by 66! (or 67 when you get everyone to buy the complete book) Same trick being played by the Alabaster Bible guys.
Thank you...once again, Mike! i’m still shaking my head-that this man continues to peddle his purposefully misleading claims. Hopefully, these vids will continue to expose these lies and effect the sales of these Joseph Smith-like-ego-driven fictional books!
Around 1:04:00 or 1:05:00 it sounds as if Bloomberg is saying Jesus is not YHWH! I know that is not what you believe Pastor Mike because of your explanation of “ego eimi”. I wish you had called on him to clarify.
I'm a bit disappointed that Dr. Blomberg didn't mention that Joseph Smith also was inspired to make his own "translation" of the Bible (parts of it, anyway) that is similar in embellishment to TPT, though worse from a doctrinal level. On the other hand, he gives the best response to the homonym nonsense of the various scholars so far, and he does deal very pointedly with the Aramaic primacy idea.
Even if it were a paraphrase , just LOOK at the man's claims and the trips to heaven and appearances of Jesus and angels. That's enough to declare Brian a false prophet and teacher.
Me too reading the Bible is confusing enough that’s why I love ❤️ mike Has taken the time to look into this nonsense most pastors will not I’m a simple man I run in to Christian’s all the time say they are lead by the holy spirt yet vote for a candidate that is pro abortion
For some reason I always thought homonyms and homophones were different. It turns out homophones are a type of homonym. Homonyms can be broken down into two groups: homophones which are each of two or more words having the SAME PRONUNCIATION but different meanings, origins, or spellings; and homographs which are each of two or more words SPELLED THE SAME but not necessarily pronounced the same and having different meanings and origins.
None of us are worthy of the body of Christ but we are justified by faith in Christ. he died for us. None us can make ourself worthy by keeping commandments. Jesus said he would merciful to our sins and faults we have. Jesus said I and my father are one. So that is good enough me. Jesus is the door.
I read "Can We Still Believe the Bible" in seminary. It is a fantastic book and presents a very approachable "revelation" to the insane amount of evidence we have for the Bible's veracity.
Hey Mike! Thank you so much for doing this. I have this same passion about this non-translation but not quite the same resources that you have at your disposal. It would be cool, once all is said and done, if these essays could be put together in a book!
I am so very glad or replay on this one. I kept being pulled away from the livestream. Shared this on FB as I am with all of these in hopes God will get the info to who needs to know and can be saved from the error or this book. Thank you again MIKE. Oh by the way, my old pastor is now watching your videos and promoted what he is watching on his FB page. That made me very happy to hear as I have spoken to him many times about the work you do here.
Brother, hopefully you do not agree with Dr. Blomberg that Yahweh is a name of the Father only. The Father is Yahweh, the Son is Yahweh and the Holy Spirit is Yahweh. The NT applies numerous Yahweh passages, or where Yahweh speaks, to the Son (Romans 10:9-13, Joel 2:32 for one example) and the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 3:7-11, Psalm 95:7-11).
How could something be useful for serious bible study (or anything) if it is written by somebody who lies? If it is produced by somebody who gives a false witness or testimony? Why be so careful to tip toe around regarding criticism of his works?
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I feel I should mention that I am not in agreement with Dr. Blomberg on the implications of identifying Jesus as Yahweh, but these interviews are not about only showing scholars saying stuff I agree with. They are about allowing various scholars to share THEIR opinions after reviewing TPT. I do think the point about Yahweh is still relevant because it was an important point in Dr. Blomberg’s review and it has to do with Simmons’ unjustified selection of variant readings when it suits him.
In all these interviews there are points where I would like to push back on something a scholar said but I didn’t for a couple reasons.
1. I am in substantial agreement with them and those points of pushback would be secondary to the overall evaluation of TPT. The elongated discussion of the implications of calling Jesus “Yahweh” would take us away from the focus on the translation.
2. These interviews serve as a check against not only the work of Brian Simmons but also against my own reviews of TPT. When the scholars say things differently than I would I think it’s a good thing overall because it allows for you to hear multiple opinions while you form your own opinion. If I were to edit out things I think differently on then it would decrease the overall value of the project.
With all that in mind I decided to just let Dr. Blomberg share his view on this and to stow my own further questioning of it for the time being. If you, like me, don’t see the problem with calling Jesus “Yahweh” then you can, like me, still see the problem of randomly using unlikely variant readings while appealing to fictitious “Aramaic originals.”
What I’m referring to is a point at 1:01:11. I absolutely agree that Jesus is not the Father but am not convinced that calling Jesus “Yahweh” is the same as calling Him “the Father” and thereby blurring the distinction between God the Father and God the Son.
Further, I do think that in other places the Bible does say that Jesus is Yahweh. At least that’s my understanding of it.
Excellent video pastor Mike. No need to apologize about the extensive nature and in-depth study that you were taking. We need more thoughtfulness, more doctrine more seriousness about doctrine not less. May I recommend Peter Gentry? He is a world-class Hebrew and Greek scholar and would be a wonderful interview as well
At first it seems like a no-no to call Jesus Yahweh but as I think about the places where the term Yahweh is used.... doesn’t it more accurately describe the Godhead? Maybe? That’s what I’m getting from it. I may be missing something, but whenever I think of the Israelites and Yahweh, I understand that GOD was there with them (you know, not just the Father or not just the Spirit, and not even just Jesus), every person of the Godhead.
I am so glad I saw this comment Mike because that was the one point in the videos where I was like, "But I thought some of the Biblical authors intentionally blur the lines between Jesus and Yahweh."
I’m really glad you mentioned this, as a student in Bible college I keep running into the issue of just believing everything I hear from scholars, which I know is not always the wisest. It’s good to remember that biblical scholars may be intelligent and dedicated but they are not infallible, your comment reminded me of that.
Thanks for mentioning this. While I greatly respect Dr. Blomberg-and appreciate much of his excellent work-I think he misspoke or was confused about traditional language about the Trinity and Jesus being spoken of as kurios in the NT (cf. Romans 10:9-10, 13 among other passages and several significant studies on NT Christology in the last 10-20 years). Hopefully, he realizes this or a friend kindly brings it up to him! Also, I believe he is mistaken about 1 Corinthians 7:36-38. These are, in fact, some of the more difficult verses to translate in the New Testament due to a few ambiguities in the text that can lead to two quite different meanings. (Compare 4-5 translations from different eras and traditions and/or the NET Bible note at the end of 1 Cor 7:38.) This doesn't help the TPT's case here, though, since it doesn't really go with either legitimate option.
"what if the church has been robbed for 2000 years.." If people cannot see the absolute danger of that statement. The guy is literally saying "God has never empowered or used anyone properly yet in relation to translating and interpreting his word for 2000 years and only now is God finally empowering and using somebody for the first time - and that person is me"
I personaly do think some knowledge is lost for 2000 years. But it isn't necessary for salvation and it would make me very suspicious if I'm the only one who would get that revalation.
@@philippbrogli779 Yeah
It sounds just like Joseph Smith's claims 190 years ago
YES. This! Thank you!!
@@richardthenryvideos It sounds just like all the cult leaders.....
Brian Simmons story of a visit from Jesus sounds eerily similar to Joseph Smith! Joseph Smith also received a special revelation that lead to the Mormon Bible!
I was thinking it was similar to the Mohammed account of the Koran.
Same source, one can guess.
I agree
As a former Mormon I concur.
As a former Mormon I noticed that too it can leed a young Christian astray Another Tool for satan
Mohammed as well
“Secrets” right there is an occult idea . God hides nothing from those seeking him .
i wouldn't say God hides nothing. we know of several mysteries as told by the new testament authors. there's also the day and hour of Jesus's return which only the Father knows. however, i think we can be confident that God fully reveals who He is to believers through Scripture and the Holy Spirit. as for Biblical mysteries and difficult-to-understand passages, those certainly exist.
i also don't agree to the notion of Biblical "secrets". a secret is something that is there but is intentionally hidden. i don't believe God has intentionally hidden any Biblical knowledge within Scripture from His church. rather, i think that it's our lack of ability to understand certain Biblical knowledge that cause them to be mysteries, not secrets.
If Simmons is getting help from God Himself, why would there need to be revisions at all?
That is such a great point!
Because God wouldn't contradict himself? A single person can't just come up with a translation that heavily caters to a certain sect of charismatic/pentacostal teaching
Actually that's a lousy point. God helps every one of us every day, and He uses other people to do it. Often that means criticism. Brian Simmons is on record that God told him the critics will make him a better translator.
@@JewandGreek but that also seems to be a lousy point. If I were to say, “God told me that critics were going to make me a better translator.” Then I translate “the sky is red” to “the sky is blue” does it make my statement that the sky is blue true? Just because someone says, “God told me” does not make it so. Sometimes it’s “my god told me.”
@@JewandGreek so, let me get this straight. Brian says God told him that everyone has gotten the translation wrong, beaths inspiration and directly downloads the information.... but then needs critics to make him better?
I mean aside from the fact that brian did not say the critics would help him make a better translation... brian clearly said that God "warns" him that he will be criticized for his downloads from God.
It's so ironic that Mr. Simmons, claiming "special secret knowledge," would undertake this "translation" of scripture and overlook that, when it comes to Corinthians, one of the reasons Paul wrote 1 Corinthians was to combat the Corinthian culture of claiming special, secret knowledge and how it was creating chaos and division within church...
Full on belly laugh.
Something that just flies over their heads.... literally their entire camp.
Oh my I need read/study 1 corinthians again!
Yep, Paul was extremely well versed and knowledgeable and that was a great account of the Church’s first encounter with Gnosticism. Completely crazy how people are failing to see that, and just goes to show they are still thirsting more for the world and men than the bread of Christ.
Thank you dearly for this comment. All through the video series, I kept thinking that often times, when people claim special secret knowledge or revelation, they end up being heretics. History is full of them.
Show me where all the money trail leads and you have your answer. Run run run as fast as you can from mr S and his bible! And it is his bible . He tells a very tall tale of how it came to him. And that alone should make one question the entire thing!
Why would God leaves us in the dark for over 2,000 years?📖📖
That's a pretty good point. Simmons makes God look like a jerk.
Yeah cos he hasn’t,
This is old, but He could, I mean before He came as a human, people were sorta in the dark..
Appreciate your work Mr Wing. It actually helps the newly saved. I am still a baby Christian at an old age and my new church is slowly promoting the passion version. I am starting to see the church also support Simmons and Johnson which my spirit is saying they are not the teachers to follow. Thank you.🙏
May God bless and keep you
I've seen all I need to know about this so-called "translation" by just watching your videos. Thank you brother!
You need to correct his nonsense and misinformation regarding Yahweh since he will confuse folks on this matter. Jesus is Yahweh even though he is not the Father, since Yahweh is not only the Father's name. And he must have not read Hebrews 1:10-12 or Romans 10:9-13. Lord willing, I will be refuting his misinformation in my stream later today.
What was that one thing I read once?
Something about "scripture is not up to personal interpretation..."?
Oh? He's saying this isn't personal interpretation, it's from God eh?
Yeah...ok....Bet God has a different opinion.
Once again, as I say every time, THANK YOU!!! This is so needed. I love how you and your guests are always balance, always careful not to slander or demean, but gently and humbly point out the obvious problems with this “translation”. Thank you again!
18:32 "I just want more people to be informed, so they can be offended."
That's both hilarious, and kind of profound. 👏
My question for Simmons: why would Paul write to the Corinthians in Aramaic over Greek, given that Corinth is in Greece? Maybe he has the erroneous idea that when people speak a second language they are always translating in their head
That’s the key. I don’t think he understands that. This is exactly why I can’t learn other languages. Simmons can’t imagine that if they spoke Aramaic as a native language, that they wouldn’t write in Aramaic.
Wow... incredible ... this is how cults start
and how Islam started.
@@OlivusOrchards Islam is a cult? I’m not Muslim though. Just asking.
@@benedictalmarines721 Islam started with a man who claimed to hear messages from God and every follower of his since believes he is a prophet from god. This man had his visions and messages written down in a new book because he said the Bible was not an accurate and complete message any longer. He said God was doing a new thing in his day, and only he had this secret revelation from God. The movement started small but grew and now is a major religion. The man's name was Mohammed. In order to win over acceptance from Christians, he had to acknowledge Jesus was a prophet, and Jews so Moses was a prophet, and the original Bible was accurate but through the years became corrupted and untrustworthy. So people needed a new prophet, himself, in order to know God. It's a repetitive strategy used over and over again for the devil to combat true faith and true religion. Cults and Islam share all this in common.
@@OlivusOrchards Maybe he would have been at least more believable if he was being persecuted or sawn in two like Isaiah or Elijah. More believable but still false.
Exactly. I predict we will see Simmonites within a decade or two
I always wondered why he thinks he needs to rewrite the Bible and thinks it comes from God. That would imply God didn't do the job right the first time.
I'm so glad you will be appearing on Dr. Brown's show to discuss TPT. You will have so much great information to share with him and his audience after all these epic interviews!
I’m going to comment till we get a video on it; Simmons is a heretic.
This is my first time seeing Blomberg after recently listening to Lee Strobel’s audible on “The Case for Christ” 😮😮 this is really interesting stuff
Secrets of Hebrew and Greek sounds like Joseph Smith translating the Golden Plates. Does Simmons have a magic seer stone he uses in a hat?
I wonder if Brian Simmons could translate the Book of Abraham?
An “angel called passion” 😳 that’s right there was all I needed to hear to know that this is very questionable. Thank you for this informative discussion
"[God] promised to give me new understanding and a new, fresh revelation of his word." ~ Brian Simmons
“Be assured, there is nothing new in theology except that which is false.” ~ Charles H. Spurgeon
Well put sir
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As a non native English speaker I don't care about this translation. And my church and friends won't use it. But I like this series because I learn about general bible translation.
Same! I'm Swedish, so the series maybe isn't directly relevant to me, but I'm really enjoying it anyway.
As with all paraphrases you will have to unlearn the misinformation, better to avoid it all together.
Did you notice how many times he used “I” and “me”. That was pretty telling in itself. We don’t get different translations.
Does Brian Simmons really believe that God gave him new, "special" revelation? How is it even possible for someone to be that deceived?
My opinion is this dude is just particular species of scam artist.. nothing more nothing less..
@@kelvyquayo agreed! He’ll make a fortune from the sales. It’s sad... As I would desire prayer for my soul, I pray for his. God desires no one to perish.
@@soundmind6477 amen to that, brother. No one is beyond Christ’s mercy. Let us pray for even these. All praise to The Lord of Glory.
When someone decieves often they can easily be deceived.
... He could just be bald facing lying for financial gain too
He's hung out with a LOT of bad apples for a LONG time now
I don't personally need more convincing not to read the passion translation, but I've listened to each of these interviews with great interest and will continue to do so. I've learned a lot about Bible translation and the scholars behind it. I've been so impressed with their humility and the amount of grace they put into critiquing Simmons, as well as their genuine love for God's word. It's given me an even greater appreciation for our English translations and has even made me rethink my total rejection of "The Message".
As a non English native speaker I didn't even care in the beginning. And I also am more open to "worse" Bible translations.
I'm looking forward to Mike's evaluation of The Message after all this, as I'm same position as Mike in that I don't like it, but may need to review my stance following all these scholars' interviews...
I still can't get over the Lord's prayer in it though... eurgh.
It’s great that you’re getting the word out about this “translation”!
I have a FAQ book written by R. C. Sproul and in the section where he discusses “The Book of Books” and answering questions regarding the differences in translations he says something that struck a cord with me...”The person who loves God with all of his mind is not casual in how he handles the Scriptures.” ❤️
I must strongly disagree with Blomberg at 1:01:11. Beloved, Jesus is nothing less than YHVH God!
Hearing Brian Simmons I can't help but scream "cult"!!!
I might’ve commented this on another one of your videos, but I think it’s crazy how Simmons is talking about the number of footnotes in the text, but the guys doing the Legacy Standard Bible talked about translating certain texts in particular ways to limit and reduce the need for footnotes. I just find that interesting.
The danger of purchasing a translation for the purpose of hearing what you want to hear versus what you need to know.
All the "secrets" and supernatural "knowledge" sounds like a neo-Gnosticism.
YES!!! YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! So what of the pastors and seminar leaders allowing this tripe into the church? Remember Jezebel supported the prophets of Baal.
I was just reading Jude again today - it reminded me that the letter is as relevant today as it ever has been, precisely because of what you said.
I just want to say, the point about Communion was amazing. I don’t like saying it because it sounds terrible but I hated Communion growing up because of those reasons, that it was always presented as make sure your heart is right or something bad might happen, and it’s scary because what if I forgot something to confess and repent of and I take Communion, will I be struck dead?! So thank you for even doing a minor teaching on this topic
😂 “Will I be stuck dead?!” 😂😂😂 I love your honesty, it’s ok to have those confusing and weird questions! Keep being real. And keep chasing God. ♥️
May I ask what denomination you belonged to?
@@arthurbrugge2457 Are you asking me? I don't actually know at the moment. I grew up Southern Baptist, but have been attending an online church that the pastor was ordained at a Southern Baptist seminary, the church was launched from a United Methodist church and this particular church is a part of the Acts 29 network, and in person I attend an inner-denominational
@@-BekahJoy- Thank you. I was wondering what kind of denomination could lead to such a view on communion. Anyway, I'm glad to know that you got out of that mindset. The pastor/priest where I go always reminds the flock that communion is for sinners, and has a chat with those who feel they are unworthy.
Honestly, from the rhetoric Simmons' uses, he comes across to me like a con-artist trying to sell his version of the Bible. Worse, he comes across like the con-artists you see in tv shows, just watch a few episodes of the show "Leverage." Worse still, people don't seem to recognize that. I'm rather impressed Mike hasn't said as much even though so many of the clips he has played of Simmons' has Simmons outright saying people need to purchase his version of the Bible.
0:55 So, Joseph Smith?
I love these videos, but I'd love them more with less footage of Brian Simmons. I just can't stand listening to the guy.
I think it's important so we can see that Brian is not being misquoted, but the language is coming straight from the horses mouth.
Mike probably comes under a lot of attack for exposing this and I think he is wise to put the videos into his video so no one can claim he's lying or twisting anything.
But if it could be done without us having to listen to Brian's claptrap, that would be great!
For me, I used to read the passion and be in this sort of deluded movement and the videos of brian along with the explanation of truth has helped deliver me and set me back into truth.
It is grating, but I think, super important when sharing this video. It would sound like Mike was just making some of these crazy statements up if he was not proving it with video.
me neither but i think its necessary so we could figure out what theyre saying.
Thank you Mike . God bless you! If I may say the work you do is important.
Blomberg is wrong about YHWY not being equated with Jesus, it's in John. "Before Moses was I Am." YHWH is a term referring to the being of God not to one of the persons.
Commenting for the TH-cam algorithm, thanks for the work you do Mike!
Saying that "Jesus isn't Yahweh" is heresy. The singular NAME that the Father, Son, and Spirit share (Matthew 28:19) is Yahweh. If Christ isn't Yahweh then you just screwed a huge part of the New Testament quoting OT passages about Yahweh and applying it to Christ. Smh
I came here to comment this. You are so right. I understand that the name "Yahweh" doesn't show up in that verse. Yet, would Blomberg said just shows he has not spent much time understanding the doctrine of the Trinity. He sounded more like a Tritheist
also, Simmons says repeatedly that he has studied the MANUSCRIPTS.... but he must mean the Greek and Aramaic texts in printed editions... but by saying "manuscripts", it sort of gives it a "specialist" ring... :)
I hear him say manuscripts and picture like Nicolas cage in national treasure with the light and magnifying glass wearing rubber gloves looking at the declaration of independence
Mr Simmons says "the homonymic language is the key to understanding the Book of Revelation". No! The key to understanding the Book of Revelation is the Holy Spirit.
very insightful! by brian simmons saying homonyms are the key, he gives himself latitude and justification to make this "translation" say anything he wants it to and call it a work coming straight from God...THAT is scary! i pray he indeed wakes up to the truth of God!
Yes, it's so deceptive.
This is dangerous. Could be witnessing the birth of another cult.
It's already been birthed. This is to give it credence and make it grow
Dude! It is -- called NAR
@@jarvisnelson4701 BETHEL HILLSONG JESUS CULTURE YES BASICLY N. A. R.
I used to think that The Message was the worst Bible version. I still regard it as terribly corrupted, for many of the same kinds of reasons that TPT is wrong. Then came other ‘Bibles’ that are even worse than Peterson’s paraphrase. Now we have The Passion Translation, which is on a par with the ‘Bible’ of the Jehovah’s Witnesses founder; Charles Taze Russell, or the ‘Bible’ of Joseph Smith, that he produced to go with his Book of Mormon. Simmons’ claim that he was personally commissioned by God to produce TPT, in an encounter where he talks about being tempted to steal something from this so-called Library of Heaven. The number of terribly unscriptural things in Simmons’ accounts of these trips tp Heaven become insurmountable to anyone with a reasonable knowledge of the scriptures. The idea that sin in any form can exist in Heaven is borderline blasphemy and impossible.
The idea that God has allowed His word to be hidden away for the last two millennia and is only now bringing forth the REAL truth of His word, through some guy who talks about visits to Heaven, where he contemplated STEALING a book from this imaginary place in Heaven, is so preposterous that my vocabulary struggles to find the words to describe how appallingly bad it is.
I heard secret revelation multiple times in the first two minutes. That’s all I need to know about him. “Test the spirits to know that they are from God.” John 4:1
Never never ever sacrifice accuracy for readability a dangerous pattern in the modern church culture!
A good interview. However, one of the things I wish you had discussed is pertaining to the nature of the Greek itself. To be certain, the textual issues against an original Aramaic are quite compelling. However, more than this is the fact that the Greek of the New Testament does not read like a translation of something into Greek. We have the LXX, we know what it looks like when Hebrew and Aramaic are translated into Greek. The philosophy tends to be fairly literalistic, and the result is that the Greek is often fairly clumsy and wooden, and sometimes downright atrocious. The Greek of the New Testament varies widely in style and substance, and in some cases it is not at a literary quality, like what we find in Mark's Gospel, or John's Gospel or the Revelation. But you'd have to be on some pretty hardcore drugs to tell me that Hebrews, 1 Peter or the second half of Acts are translations, just to name the most obvious examples. Although it was admitted in the interview that it would be very strange if letters written to the diaspora were written in Aramaic. Just another angle that you guys could have criticized TPT, although let's face it, there as a wealth of materials available as far as that is concerned.
~46:45 min Simmons says something like 'I know languages, I'm a linguist', but an actual linguist/language scientist would never say that. We talk about 'Language' as a phenomena, not 'languages' (although Linguists, especially field linguists, might learn a language in their work) This suggests to me a lack of actual Linguistics training, which doesn't bode well for any defense of his manuscript. And I'll also point out that being a Linguist and being a Translator are two different jobs though they are related. I'm a Linguist, I don't pretend to be a Translator.
Read the historical record of Joseph Smith and the translation of Egyptian hieroglyphs. See if you can see the similarities with Brian Simmons.
Thank you for exposing the Passion Pseudo translation.
I admire Craig Blomberg. As an ex-Mormon, I am intrigued by his collaboration with Mormon Stephen Robinson. I look forward to his view of Brian Simmons' "translation" as reliable as Joseph Smith, in my view.
When I first saw Brian Simmon’s claims of his “process”, I pictured Joseph Smith right away. “Downloads” > visions, Angels visiting, etc. The parallels are crazy. (I am also an ex-Mormon.)
I’m so glad there are other former Mormons looking to the Bible! Here in Seattle most tend to jump so far off the deep end when they leave. Our family looked for a biblical only church.
This is just me and my opinion, but I wish that Dr. Bloomberg as a scholar, would take more of a stand against this paraphrase version and not be so wishy-washy on what I feel are important points and topics about scripture. I may be reading him wrong and if so then I am wrong. I appreciate his scholarship and knowledge, yet I wish he were more passionate about what I see as the undermining of God’s breathed word to us.
I agree, the TPT makes me want to flip tables.
Would have been more faithful to write the whole thing in italics.
If Mr. Simmons was hearing from God, angels, etc., How did he "test the spirits"? If he didn't do anything, his "translation" is no better than the New Testament translation done by Johannes Greber, who said that he was "helped" by a "good spirit" to help him with difficult passages too. Because of the claims of being aided by so-called spirits, this book is spiritual poison in my opinion.
Hey, Idk if you have actually attempted that, but wouldn't it be very interesting if you actually managed to get Brian Simmons on and talk with him about his own translation on the basis of these reviews?
I did have a private talk with Brian months ago. He requested that I didn’t share the details of the conversation so I can’t. Sorry!
@@MikeWinger Well said, Mike. At least you are demonstrating a level of integrity that is utterly absent in Brian Simmons. There are some who would try to persuade you to reveal all, but please don't give in to any temptation to do that. Saying nothing speaks volumes.
I like this interview with Dr. Blomberg. He’s preternaturally analytical and calm…. I would absolutely present this to one of my friends who showed themselves willing to talk to me about this translation. This man is even-handed and toned - showing significant emotion only when Simmons made the “original Aramaic” claim. I pray I get the chance to discuss. I think I lost a friend, already, in my posts.
In the discussion of the use of Yehovah in 15;47. My understanding was that יהוה is the name of God, a able to be applied equally to any person of the trinity. That the reason Jesus didn't use this name for himself when being questioned is that the understanding of the Jewish leadership at the time was that יהוה referred only to the Father and thus to get the point across that he was God but distinct from the Father He refrained from using this name. Am I mistaken? If so can someone please detail why this is not the case.
Develop a personal fellowship with God through Christ daily following the leading of the Holy Spirit, so you’ll know truth from error and deception.
1 Corinthians 2:6-16
John 14:26🕊
Following Jesus the way the Bible says, and getting to know His Word is the only way to have personal fellowship with God through Jesus Christ. Otherwise you might get a deceiving spirit instead of the Holy Spirit, like Brian Simmonds.
@@jeannetteparry5587 exactly. He sounds a bit like one who had visions who was hit in the head by a rock..
I agree he is getting it from someone but not God.
Hi Mike, thanks for doing this. I've been wondering about it ever since my pastor started using it in the pulpit. Now... How to bring it up with him?
I would suggest sending him the link to the video & paper (along with all the others) and ASKING him to share what HE thinks about it...
I did it the wrong way before the project started (after I think the second video about the TPT) and so I'm having to try the long way round now by getting the elders to fight the battle instead, but they don't seem to share my hatred for it (I think anything that distorts God's word should be hated).
Say, "Hello Pastor, I am researching Bible versions and after watching this video (insert link to this video) not sure if TPT is the best. Is what they say accurate?"
Incredibly helpful... I had a check in my heart immediately and I totally was expecting to love it (so i was confused)... but kept thinking, ‘that’s not in my KJV’
Made my figurative hair stand on end. In places it sounds so good it really does tickle my ears
Very helpful thank you - just found your channel
Great speakers balanced analysis
Thank you for doing this project! The more I hear Simmons' statements I can't help but be reminded of Joseph Smith. It's so sad that many people in the church blindly trust anything with a Christian label on it 😔 Praying for your ministry and other ministries like yours that teach and equip people to think critically and actually search the scriptures 🙏
These interviews are helpful, and Dr Blomberg is a good scholar. However, I think dr Blomberg is wrong concerning Jesus not being Jahve (1:01:11).
In the Old Testament, there is more than one person who is called Jahve. The angel of the Lord is also the Lord Himself.
In the New Testament we have the text about being saved by confessing Jesus as Lord in Romans 10, where Paul proves his point by quoting Joel 2:32. If we look up Joel 2:32, we find that the Hebrew word that is translated by Lord (Greek "kyrios"), it is Jahve.
Oh, dear.... 😳😳 I'm not reformed, but my goodness.... 🤦♀️🤦♀️ The Word of God is perfect AS IT IS. It doesn't need any fancy, frou-frou, fresh "revelations" or "secrets" kind of rendering of the Scriptures. What's been good enough for the saints these last 2000 years, is good enough for us. Mr. Simmons, bless his soul, went "beyond what was written", something the Word says not to, AND he basically says that Jesus/Holy Spirit told him to.... NOT GOOD. NOT GOOD AT ALL. Very dangerous, to say the least....
A reliable scripture is the only way a Christian can grow in wisdom and knowledge. A faulty translation vacates the hope God conveys in His word. Sort of like a badly translated user manual.
Coming soon: the Vulcan Version.
Most illogical
@@medleysa BRILLIANT REACTION !! YOU'RE A GENIUS, SAM !
This scholar is WAY TOO LIGHT on Simmons! He needs to come right out and call the passion what it is!! MADE UP GARBAGE!!
Thank you Pastor Mike for giving us this information on TPT. I enjoyed Dr Bloomberg’s thoughtful responses today. He was trying to be balanced in what he said and not unnecessarily harsh and unkind. But he left no doubt in my mind that he thinks TPT is not a translation and a questionable paraphrase as well. I got Dr Bloomberg’s book ‘Can we still believe in God?’ on Kindle today and can’t put it down. Highly recommended to answer 10 questions your non-Christian friends frequently ask. Wish I’d read this book earlier! It is a gem.
1st thing you need to know is he created his own Bible version. Revelation 22:18-19
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
The same thing that’s wrong with this guys bible is the same with the Book of Mormon. The JV bible. The Koran. The NIV, ESV, NLT, CEV etc. read them all and compare them to the King James. If the Bibles have contradictions one of them must be wrong. Here’s a hint. They all (except the KJV) make it about works. If you love God but are working your way to heaven then what did Jesus die for?
1:32:22 "Lead" = Pb. > Lat. Plumbum. (Thanks, Mrs. Coleman, for two years of High School Latin.)
He’s one of my favorites. Can’t wait.
God bless you mike!
After listening to the entire interview I need to make an apology. The direct questions that Mike asked Dr. Bloomberg at the end and his answers were the very encouraging. My bad for wrongly judging him before listening to the entirety of the podcast. Great interview Mike, thanks.
Releasing a Bible book by book... clever: multiply your potential sales by 66! (or 67 when you get everyone to buy the complete book) Same trick being played by the Alabaster Bible guys.
Thank you...once again, Mike! i’m still shaking my head-that this man continues to peddle his purposefully misleading claims. Hopefully, these vids will continue to expose these lies and effect the sales of these Joseph Smith-like-ego-driven fictional books!
Around 1:04:00 or 1:05:00 it sounds as if Bloomberg is saying Jesus is not YHWH! I know that is not what you believe Pastor Mike because of your explanation of “ego eimi”. I wish you had called on him to clarify.
Yeah that's very strange since the Holy Spirit is called Yahweh...
Yeah Bloomberg makes a huge error there we Trinitarians believe all 3 persons are Yehovah. And its at 1:01:10
I'm a bit disappointed that Dr. Blomberg didn't mention that Joseph Smith also was inspired to make his own "translation" of the Bible (parts of it, anyway) that is similar in embellishment to TPT, though worse from a doctrinal level. On the other hand, he gives the best response to the homonym nonsense of the various scholars so far, and he does deal very pointedly with the Aramaic primacy idea.
Even if it were a paraphrase , just LOOK at the man's claims and the trips to heaven and appearances of Jesus and angels. That's enough to declare Brian a false prophet and teacher.
I'm so frustrated that I saw TPT in the YouVersion app and began using it because I assumed it was a good thing. I'm grateful for your diligence.
Me too reading the Bible is confusing enough that’s why I love ❤️ mike Has taken the time to look into this nonsense most pastors will not I’m a simple man I run in to Christian’s all the time say they are lead by the holy spirt yet vote for a candidate that is pro abortion
Dr. Blomberg on reggae communion cracked me up. Thanks for doing this Mike!
Thank you for putting clips of what he says in here so we can see it. Appreciate your videos.
For some reason I always thought homonyms and homophones were different. It turns out homophones are a type of homonym. Homonyms can be broken down into two groups: homophones which are each of two or more words having the SAME PRONUNCIATION but different meanings, origins, or spellings; and homographs which are each of two or more words SPELLED THE SAME but not necessarily pronounced the same and having different meanings and origins.
Thanks for that information.
God did not give Brian Simmons any secrets, or any special knowledge
Joseph Smith, is that you?
👁👄👁 another one
Lets go this is going to be good
Holy crap. This guy has no clue what he is doing to the Word.
I think he knows exactly what he's doing to the Word.
@@danbrown586 Yep, he knows he is making money off the Word no matter the ultimate cost.
If Bill Johnson likes a translation, it's almost for me a mark against it without further knowledge. The man teaches such terrible stuff.
If I never hear "homonym" or "homonymic" again, I can die a happy man... 😂🤣
None of us are worthy of the body of Christ but we are justified by faith in Christ. he died for us. None us can make ourself worthy by keeping commandments. Jesus said he would merciful to our sins and faults we have. Jesus said I and my father are one. So that is good enough me. Jesus is the door.
I read "Can We Still Believe the Bible" in seminary. It is a fantastic book and presents a very approachable "revelation" to the insane amount of evidence we have for the Bible's veracity.
Hey Mike! Thank you so much for doing this. I have this same passion about this non-translation but not quite the same resources that you have at your disposal. It would be cool, once all is said and done, if these essays could be put together in a book!
Another great one! 🙌🙌🙏🙏
I am so very glad or replay on this one. I kept being pulled away from the livestream. Shared this on FB as I am with all of these in hopes God will get the info to who needs to know and can be saved from the error or this book. Thank you again MIKE. Oh by the way, my old pastor is now watching your videos and promoted what he is watching on his FB page. That made me very happy to hear as I have spoken to him many times about the work you do here.
Brother, hopefully you do not agree with Dr. Blomberg that Yahweh is a name of the Father only. The Father is Yahweh, the Son is Yahweh and the Holy Spirit is Yahweh. The NT applies numerous Yahweh passages, or where Yahweh speaks, to the Son (Romans 10:9-13, Joel 2:32 for one example) and the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 3:7-11, Psalm 95:7-11).
I BELIEVE that the Holy Spirit is active & guides us...but listening to his “encounters” makes me feel a certain kind of way. Red flags 🚩
Homonym is a word of greek origin! Simmons has no good Intention but to make a buck off his "translation"
He mentions to straight out "buy it!"
How could something be useful for serious bible study (or anything) if it is written by somebody who lies? If it is produced by somebody who gives a false witness or testimony? Why be so careful to tip toe around regarding criticism of his works?