The RAF's Ferrari of the sky: The de Havilland Hornet

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  • **This is a remake of an old video. Enjoy **
    Following, the success of the Mosquito, de Havilland set off an providing the RAF with long-range, high performance fighter. From this the twin-engine De Havilland Hornet and Sea Hornet was born, an aircraft that test pilot Eric Brown believed could “even with one propeller feathered...loop with the best single-engine fighter.” This is the story of one of Britain’s best, but overlooked piston engine aircraft. Like and subscribe for more!
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    0:00 - 0:26 : Intro
    0:26 - 0:41 : Title
    0:41 - 1:51 : Design and Development
    1:51 - 2:52 : Prototypes
    2:52 - 3:36 : RAF Service
    3:36 - 3:44 : Hornet PR.2
    3:44 - 4:09 : Hornet F.Mk.3
    4:09 - 5:08 : Far East Air Force
    5:08 - 5:51 : Air Racing
    5:51 - 7:14 : Sea Hornet
    7:14 - 7:56 : Sea Hornet N.F.Mk.21
    7:56 - 8:05 : Sea Hornet PR.22
    8:05 - 8:35 : Royal Navy Service
    8:35 - 8:54 : Export and Survivors
    8:54 - 9:55 : Conclusion
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  • @AntiqueAirshow
    @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hi all,
    I would just like to address some feedback. Thanks to everyone that has given me feedback, as it helps me to improve the content of the channel.
    Firstly, apologies for pronouncing H as haitch instead of aitch. I didn't realize that there was a difference and was just pronouncing it as I normally would. I'll fix that for future videos.
    Secondly, the Hornet did have counter rotating propellors, NOT contra rotating propellor as stated in the video. Sorry for this mistake.
    Cheers,
    Jarryd 👍✈️

    • @davyf6582
      @davyf6582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for this video. My Dad flew the Hornet and I have a lovely photo of him sitting in the cockpit, engines running. It’s such a shame that it has largely been forgotten, hopefully the New Zealand build will rectify this.

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can pronounce H however you want. Don't change just because some people talk differently.

    • @mobiousenigma
      @mobiousenigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      cool images can you do an episode on the tse tse fly varient a 6lbs er in the nose has to be a sight. thanks for the video , like the pby catilina information on mosquitos is harder to come by

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Contra rotating is a perfectly ok term. Means exactly the same.

    • @sking3492
      @sking3492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@JohnyG29 Exactly!! As long as people can understand what you are saying, who cares?

  • @randallpinkfloyd7225
    @randallpinkfloyd7225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    One of my favorite late war designs! Would have been a great escort fighter in WW2. Great video!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you👍✈ It is a great aircraft. So sleek.

  • @markleadbeatter6196
    @markleadbeatter6196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Hornet is one of my all time favourite aircraft and it is such a shame that not one example of this beautiful bird survives today.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome, it is a great looking aircraft. It is a shame, but hopefully one day there will be one flying.

    • @TheMentalblockrock
      @TheMentalblockrock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's made of plywood, so lets go down B&Q, get the wood and make one!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMentalblockrock Haha, but in all seriousness it would be a great endeavor to do. If the original plans were available, while not easy would be possible. Most likely the biggest issue would be finding the correct engines as they are rare examples.

  • @alantunbridge8919
    @alantunbridge8919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I was working at B.A.C. Stevenage in the late 1960’s & from our office on most days a procession of Victor bombers could be seen climbing away from Radlett. Imagine my surprise one day ,when amongst them l saw a Hornet. Where it was coming from ,going to or doing l never knew, but it has always intrigued me.

    • @cosmoray9750
      @cosmoray9750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      SL owes vast majority to West,
      th-cam.com/video/U52tT5hgtSk/w-d-xo.html
      Share....

    • @MoparMissileDivision
      @MoparMissileDivision 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very cool! You are quite lucky to have seen such a rare aircraft actually fly, I have never even seen one in a static display in a museum, if there are any left!

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would presume De Havilland at Hatfield, only a few miles down the A1 from Stevenage. Although out of service by then, my father was an inspector at Hatfield during and after the war an was involved in the producton of Hornets and Vampires at that time. By the sixties, one or two Hornets did return to Hatfield for their annual open days, every June I think it was?

    • @alantunbridge8919
      @alantunbridge8919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnp8131 My father worked at DH from 1939 to 1951 ,on Mosquitos,Hornete & Vampires/venoms,thus I have a somewhat special connection. Additionally, I have a toolbox he made from various wood offcuts he obtained during those years. He worked at Percival Aircraft before 1939 & after leaving DH went back to Hunting Percival until his death in 1959. Percival also built Mosquitos in WW II,also I did my apprenticeship there (1960-65) attending Hatfield College to study Aeronautical Engineering only leaving the aircraft industry after its destruction by the Labour government. So as you can see I have some attachment to the area,living in Luton until emigrating in 1973.

  • @captainscarlett1
    @captainscarlett1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm not sure the Mosquito was ever overlooked, I get the impression it was quite well regarded then and now.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would agree with that. However the Hornet is a more hidden aircraft.

    • @tomterific390
      @tomterific390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He never said the Mosquito was overlooked. He was specifically referring to the Hornet.

  • @azzajames7661
    @azzajames7661 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Is it just me, or does the British give their aeroplanes and ships/boats the best names?! The mosquito, then the Hornet, and then the Vampire😆 I love the way they name their defence force equipment😜 Brilliant 👏

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is quite interesting. Some great ones out there. Another favourite of mine is the de Havilland Flamingo.

    • @christophercook723
      @christophercook723 ปีที่แล้ว

      In La Lal Land they have to keep it simple!
      If the Japanese called the Zero Max the outcome could have been different😂

    • @azzajames7661
      @azzajames7661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christophercook723 Is that the same la-la-land where you still make no sense?!

    • @christophercook723
      @christophercook723 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azzajames7661 l do not live in the United States of the Continent of America. Thankfully.

    • @BeardsleyMark
      @BeardsleyMark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hear you, but Wildcat, Hellcat, Bearcat and Tomcat are not bad.
      I missed a few but you get the gist of it.

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Merlin 130 was a late variant of the engine that wasn't available mush before the Hornet first flew. It would have been interesting ro see the type with older engine specs to camper with the Mossie.
    By the way, Eric Brown ws the first pilot to land a twin engine aircraft (Mosquito) on a carrier - done by hanging the plane on its props. He had to go around on first attempt with carrier crew saying his wing tip hit the waves. He put it down successfully the second time around.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "By the way, Eric Brown ws the first pilot to land a twin engine aircraft (Mosquito) on a carrier - done by hanging the plane on its props. He had to go around on first attempt with carrier crew saying his wing tip hit the waves. He put it down successfully the second time around."
      Let me ask you a question. What exactly motivated your inclusion of this "by the way" in your comment?
      I'm just wondering if the British bought a carrier just because they needed to one-up the American carrier armada with some weird "first" like this.
      And the embellishment, did you come up with that on your own or copy it from some other British fanboi?
      I wonder if either you or the original author of that embellishment know what "hanging on its props" actually means.
      It means to climb vertically. Forward speed almost zero, 90 deg aoa . I can't see landing an unmodified Mosquito that way, as it would mean somehow timing the approach so that a tailhook mounted on the plane would engage the arresting gear which then would require that the main gear (unmodified of course) would then have to absorb the bulk of the plane slamming down on the deck. So sure of course you could modify the main gear and add a tailhook for a carrier landing, not a real problem there, but that "hanging on its prop" bullshit is, well, bullshit. No less than with any other plane making a carrier landing, it either comes in just above stall-speed, or it comes in well above stall in case it misses the wires and doesn't have safety-netting to catch it before it rolls off the far end of the flight deck and falls into the ocean in front of the carrier (no angled deck on that class of carrier).
      Also I wnoder what the Mosquitos' tactical dive limit was:
      "As a result of Doolittle's request, early in 1944 the P-38H Lightning, a Packard Merlin-powered P-51B Mustang and P-47C Thunderbolt were dived for compressibility testing at the RAE by Brown and several other pilots. The results of the tests were that the tactical Mach numbers, i.e., the manoeuvring limits, were Mach 0.68 for the Lightning and Mach 0.71 for the Thunderbolt; the corresponding figure for both the Fw 190 and Messerschmitt Bf 109 was Mach 0.75, giving them the advantage in a dive. However the tests flown by Brown and his colleagues also gave a Mach number for the Mustang of 0.78, resulting in Doolittle being able to argue with his superiors for the Mustang to be chosen in preference to the P-38 and P-47 for all escort duties from then on,[21] which was available in growing numbers by very early 1944; for Doolittle's eventual move to air supremacy missions in leading the bomber combat boxes with the Mustangs by some 75-100 miles, instead of merely accompanying them nearby.[22][23]"
      Of course the Mosquito didn't really need carrier support though, did it, any more than the Mustang or the P-38 did. And it certainly wasn't of much use in a dogtfight especially with such a high stall-speed. So an interesting stunt but I really wonder just how often the Mosquito was flown off the flight deck of that carrier for actual combat missions. Like, for raids on Tokyo, for example. Which predated Eric Browns' stunt by almost 2 years.

    • @martentrudeau6948
      @martentrudeau6948 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a great video, the Eric Brown quote at the end sums up the greatness of the Hornet.

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This plane and the Grumman Tigercat are some of my favorites.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome, both are great aircraft👍✈

    • @flickingbollocks5542
      @flickingbollocks5542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never heard of the Tigercat at so I looked it up and yes it's a nice plane.

  • @richarddixon7276
    @richarddixon7276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It's a shame it hadn't been available a couple of years earlier , it would have made an excellent long range escort fighter . Thanks for the video.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah it is a shame. Have to believe it would been very effective in combat, but also ground attack. 👍✈

    • @gingernutpreacher
      @gingernutpreacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would it if still been susceptible to the 262?

    • @TheMentalblockrock
      @TheMentalblockrock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gingernutpreacher For that you need the Gloster Meteor!

    • @gingernutpreacher
      @gingernutpreacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMentalblockrock no that was no faster and all the speed record's were after the war with bigger engine's

    • @richarddixon7276
      @richarddixon7276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gingernutpreacher It's all about Speed guys and the altitude that any particular plane functions best at , My best guess is that the 262 would be more than a match an an equal fight at the optimum altitude for the 262 , but that the Hornet would have been able to put up a better fight than say a Mosquito (My Favourite WW2 aircraft ) , this isn't taking Any of the individual Pilot Skills & experience or lock off into account which can make a huge difference in any air combat . Happy New Year All ! 😃

  • @kyleworlitz4617
    @kyleworlitz4617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love seeing young people do history like this. Cheers!

  • @francoisprenot-guinard5997
    @francoisprenot-guinard5997 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my favourite aircraft

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, it is a very cool aircraft👍✈️

  • @oxcart4172
    @oxcart4172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I hope I live long enough to see that NZ project fly

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It will be a great sight to see. Hopefully its not too far away 👍

    • @oxcart4172
      @oxcart4172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bono4671
      Yeah, Pioneer Aero in NZ are collecting parts and information as we speak (unless they're in bed or something!) They bought the remains of a Hornet from Canada (TT193) A few years ago but unfortunately have other projects to finish first

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A link to the article about the Sea Hornet restoration. warbirdsnews.com/aircraft-restoration/de-havilland-sea-hornet-airworthy-restoration-project.html
      Also there is a group rebuilding a static example facebook.com/dehavilland.hornet.F1/

    • @oxcart4172
      @oxcart4172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AntiqueAirshow
      Yeah, nothing else for 4 years!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it has been awhile. It seems to be quite the undertaking. Hopefully an update soon 👍

  • @theflyingfool
    @theflyingfool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Haha, the pilot is wearing his best suit @ 56 seconds in! THanks, that was a very interesting video TE!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gotta wear your best suit when testing experimental aircraft. Imagine if you did it today, a test pilot rocking up to fly a prototype F-35 in a suit and tie😂 Thanks 👍✈️

  • @ianhindmarsh7373
    @ianhindmarsh7373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The remains of a sea Hornet where recovered in Saskatchewan Canada. It is being restored to flying condition in New Zealand.

  • @gregmccartney5780
    @gregmccartney5780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bit of shame jets ended some of these beauties too soon. The sound from these engines really vibrate through your body.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is a little. Although, I think another shame is that not one hornet exists today. Hopefully that changes soon.
      Agree, its a terrific sound and feeling. Personally, piston engine aircraft have always been my favourite.

  • @markrowland1366
    @markrowland1366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am so glad to come across such a wonderful presentation. Very little has been available. New Zealand leads the world in reproducing wooden framed WW1, and both the Hornet and Mosquito, you might be boggled by what can be found online.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 👍✈️ Indeed they do, and have some great exhibits for aviation enthusiasts. I would love to see the Hornet under restoration their fly one day

  • @HarborLockRoad
    @HarborLockRoad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Beautiful aircraft....i cant believe nobody had the forethought that tropical heat and humidity ( not to mention monsoon rains and insects) were detrimental to the wood/ glue construction. Perhaps with jets coming into service, it was a good way to pay them off...

    • @ross.venner
      @ross.venner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I recall seeing the remains of a Vampire rotting at a local field outside Sydney. That would have been in the 1990s. De Haviland did carry some of their wood technology into the jet age.

  • @eamonnclabby7067
    @eamonnclabby7067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A golden nugget of research...well done sir...

  • @markcamilleri2720
    @markcamilleri2720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    another informative effort thank you

  • @la_old_salt2241
    @la_old_salt2241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very cool aircraft that I was unaware of, thanks for sharing.

  • @icecoffee1361
    @icecoffee1361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Merry Christmas everyone nice to see your channel growing it’s doubled since I subbed 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for the positive comment and support👍✈️

  • @hautmedoc7382
    @hautmedoc7382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An absolute tragedy that none were preserved.

  • @deepsouthNZ
    @deepsouthNZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid mate really enjoyed it

  • @ross.venner
    @ross.venner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The propellers were "handed" rather than "contra-rotating".

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes correct, my mistake. Thank you for the pick up.

  • @kamran102
    @kamran102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stunning plane..

  • @ianbell5611
    @ianbell5611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You.
    Great video

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was so fast that when one landed at an American airbase in Britain, the staff were looking all over for the jetpipe nozzles.

    • @baselhammond3317
      @baselhammond3317 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Intrigued about this story!

  • @salvagedb2470
    @salvagedb2470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always wondered what the Moz could have been like as a single seat , the Hornet would have been excellent in WW2 ..its a pity that so many made there were none donated to Museums , great vid and good images.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would seem it would of been strong asset for the Allies if it had been available during WW2. I would of like to see how it competed against single engine fighters such as the Focke-Wulf FW.190. Hopefully one day there will be one restored. Thanks 👍✈️

  • @melmoore6885
    @melmoore6885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great stuff mate, i always thought the Hornet had a bit of a bad press, but with jets on the way it's not surprising, i am very pleased that one is being restored in NZ, if there Mossies are anything to go by Wow, love to see her in the air, again good job,

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you👍✈️ I can't wait either, it will be quite the sight to see.

    • @melmoore6885
      @melmoore6885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AntiqueAirshow I really can't wait Jarred, it's so nice to see these airplanes back where they are supposed to be, those guys do a fantastic job for all of us aircraft enthusiasts we can never repay them.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Couldn't agree more. It is such a great sight and sound to see a Spitfire or a Mustang or any warbird at an airshow. Even seeing them in museums is great, especially those rare examples. We do indeed 👍✈

  • @bridge_studio
    @bridge_studio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video!

  • @limyrob1383
    @limyrob1383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    05:25, I swear he's wearing a suit and tie! Excellent!!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most likely. It seems that this wasn't all too uncommon back then. Imagine doing that today with an F-35 😂

  • @markdavis2475
    @markdavis2475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are some surviving parts of a Hornet at the Mosquito Museum and I think some of the concrete plugs used for its construction are also there.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is really interesting. Hopefully there will also be one flying soon.

  • @MililaniJag
    @MililaniJag ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Impressive aircraft!! @03:19 #2s Feathered. Cheers!

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sure was. That is interesting, and I actually never picked that up. Thanks for pointing it out 👍✈️

  • @adamconroy2146
    @adamconroy2146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well done m8!!!.

  • @jimhunt4875
    @jimhunt4875 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyed that 😊

  • @matthoskin3572
    @matthoskin3572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your TH-cam name, I figured it out instantly from Battle of Britain. Great name mate!!!.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, awesome 👍✈️ Great to hear somebody recognizing where it is from. The Battle of Britain is my favourite movie, and has had a big influence on my passion for historic aircraft, so it only seemed right to acknowledge it in my name.👍✈️

  • @MoparMissileDivision
    @MoparMissileDivision 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a beautifully streamlined aircraft, it is easy to see why it was that era's British "Ferrari of the sky"! Just like the Grumman F8F Bearcat it would have been a world beater if it had entered service one year earlier. Good video, I even subscribed!👍

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is indeed. Very sleek lines and performance was supposedly very impressive. Indeed it would have been. Thank you, welcome aboard 👍✈️

  • @fredericksaxton3991
    @fredericksaxton3991 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought the RAF would have been aware of de-lamination out in the Far East. A squadron of Mosquitos had been sent out in WW2 and they just dissolved during the monsoon.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I agree, it does seem rather short sighted to have sent the Hornets to the Far East

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing that one is being restored to flying condition :)

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree it is. Very excited to see it fly some day 👍✈️

  • @brucelamberton8819
    @brucelamberton8819 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Delamination from heat and humidity in the tropics was also a problem for the Mosquito, which is why for the RAAF in PNG and Rabaul in WW2 the Bristol Beaufighter was a better option.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed. The Beaufighter was well suited to operations in PNG, and performed very well

    • @flickingbollocks5542
      @flickingbollocks5542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Japanese called the Beaufighter "Whispering Death".

  • @MililaniJag
    @MililaniJag ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @03:19 #2 Feathered. Cheers!

  • @marcusmoonstein242
    @marcusmoonstein242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since it was a fighter it would have been nice to also discuss the armament. It looks like 4x20mm cannons, which would have been massive in those days, and far outclassing the .303 armed Spitfires

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, and in my newer videos I tend to focus in on this area more. Even for bombers. Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it.
      By the end of the war most designs similar to the Hornet tended to be armed with cannons.

    • @paulbantick8266
      @paulbantick8266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By that time Spitfires were being fitted with 4x20mm cannons. The Spitfire was armed with 2x20mm + 4x .303 and 2x20mm + 2x .50 too. The cannons being standard from 1941

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video 📹
    Overshadowed by dad 👨

  • @obi-ron
    @obi-ron 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only criticism is that the Mossie and Hornet weren't just balsa, the balsa was sandwiched between birch to create and shape strong lightweight panels and spars were fir and spruce. The pilots were certainly more vulnerable than today's guys who at least have some protection from enemy fire.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ahh yes thanks for the pick up 👍✈️. Definitely a unique construction for that time period

  • @mtacoustic1
    @mtacoustic1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great comment and a rare and nearly unknown aircraft. Too bad none were preserved. I've always wondered if performance would have been improved if the engines rotated outward (like the P-38) rather than inward.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 👍✈️. It is a shame none were preserved, but there is one under restoration in New Zealand. Amazingly this one should be able to fly so will no doubt make a great display someday. I'm not too sure, although they were contra-rotating propellers, as this was believed to eliminate torque.

    • @baselhammond3317
      @baselhammond3317 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I read that they did try outwards, but it reduced the tail surfaces effectiveness at low speed.

  • @leonleese4919
    @leonleese4919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great!

  • @edfederoff2679
    @edfederoff2679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video - my first introduction to the type. Surprising - as I've been an active enthusiast and Mossie-lover for decades. Are any of these on display, or actually still flying, or at least, airworthy? Where? Thanks for any feedback.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you 👍✈️ It does often get hidden behind other late war types. Sadly none exist today in any condition, however there is one under restoration to flight in New Zealand. Still a long way off though. Will be great when it is finished.

    • @edfederoff2679
      @edfederoff2679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, TE, Geoffrey will be proud! I'll watch for it.

  • @leonleese4919
    @leonleese4919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great

  • @TheRpg1964
    @TheRpg1964 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cracks me up that the RAF ignored all technical information about hot/tropical issues relating to timber as solved by CAC/DAP/RAAF on the Mozzie.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it is really quite interesting that they didn't learn from past experience.

  • @oulupulu
    @oulupulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The OG Hornet :D

  • @ivanwain
    @ivanwain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The props weren't 'contra rotating'; they rotated inboard, which made the aircraft more uniformly controllable in the event of an engine failure.
    Great video, mate, but please spare us the 'haitch'; the correct pronunciation among educated English speakers is 'aitch'.

    • @owenshebbeare2999
      @owenshebbeare2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He 8s Australian, we have a large Catholic education system here, and "haitch" is sometimes called the "Catholic (or Irish) Aitch". Definitely sounds odd.

  • @davidpeters6536
    @davidpeters6536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The RAF flew Hornets out of Butterworth in north Malaya (as it was called then).
    Did it fly in Korea?
    How did it compare with the P38?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it did not serve in Korea. I'm not sure how it compared to the P38, but would imagine it would of been more powerful, faster and had a greater range.

  • @wirebrushofenlightenment1545
    @wirebrushofenlightenment1545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DeHavilland had this thing where they would take a bunch of plywood and some glue, and make any number of awesome aircraft out of it.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They really did have habit for that.

  • @jasons44
    @jasons44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you do a u.s interwar bomber design?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't have anything planned in that area currently, but I'll have a look and see what I can do. I do have a video about an American bomber from WW2 in the works though👍✈️

  • @SirGregory
    @SirGregory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 4:32, are pilots standing up to see over the nose?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. I hadn't really realized until you pointed it out. It would make sense, as the nose of the aircraft is angled quite high up when on the ground.

  • @JohnJohansen2
    @JohnJohansen2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Probably a good plane, but I'm fan of the Mosquito!
    And Hornets wasn't even available when it really mattered. 😜

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's fair, the mosquito was a very good plane. Yes that's very true. Needed to be around a few years earlier.

  • @user-xj6rr3yv8q
    @user-xj6rr3yv8q 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are counter-rotating props

  • @stevejaynehyde1683
    @stevejaynehyde1683 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    there is some parts of a hornet in the de Haviland musium

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice, that makes sense. Hopefully in the future we will have one fully restored

  • @johnprinos
    @johnprinos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry, how was the wood bonded to metal in the wings? Couldn’t understand what you said.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It utilized some type of adhesive redux that acted like a glue. Hope this helps

    • @WilhelmKarsten
      @WilhelmKarsten ปีที่แล้ว

      The wood was not bonded to metal, the wooden structure was covered in fabric and painted with dope containing Aluminum pigment.

  • @richardanthonygilbey
    @richardanthonygilbey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ⭐️⭐️🎩⭐️⭐️ Actually The Grand Slam Mosquito MK2 was the fastest piston plane ever, ever ever, they’ll never let us have that one again. Fullstop.

  • @jerrychase4177
    @jerrychase4177 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    De Havilland's Second Stealth Fighter

  • @jeremywilson4326
    @jeremywilson4326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ide really like to build something experimental based on this aircraft. Same design, just scaled down. And aluminum with some composite skin. Thanks man, I appreciate you. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Jeremy in Alabama.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be a great project. Would love to see how it would turn out. A guy built a 1/3 B-17 flying fortress that flies, so I'm sure something with the Hornet could be done. Thanks 👍✈️

    • @Nibby12
      @Nibby12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get a wiggle on then, make your dream come true, it's the only way, best of luck.

  • @johnking6252
    @johnking6252 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A baby mosquito on steroids..... fine looking aircraft. 👍

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep that sums it up really well 👍✈️

  • @terryfletcher6465
    @terryfletcher6465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We knew how to do it, ONCE !

  • @christopherkroussoratsky2014
    @christopherkroussoratsky2014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There was a design very similar to the Hornet produced in Argentina. It's performance was comparable to the Hornet but the major difference was that it was all metal, so it would not have had the same problems that the Hornet suffered with it's wooden airframe.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh interesting, I never knew.

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never had .erlin engines pratt whitely 1200hp. Underpowered slower. Need 1600hp merlin

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The argie version. Do your research ok

  • @Idahoguy10157
    @Idahoguy10157 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After the experience with the wooden Mosquito delaminating the RAF sent the wooden Hornet too the Far East?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it is interesting to consider, especially when they weren't used in Korea either. Ultimately though, while effective the Hornet was limited by the operating environment of the Far East

  • @Olleetheowl
    @Olleetheowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was overlooked because it came after the war, so wasn’t needed. And as jets arrived. So was out classed.
    Of course it was the best piston aircraft ever… it was the last. Same as the bear cat, tiger cat, fury/sea fury. If it wasn’t the best, it would have been pointless building it

    • @mikeholland1031
      @mikeholland1031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was built. Also piston engined planes had far better fuel efficiency so could loiter around areas much longer if needed. They were still using piston engined aircraft in Vietnam like the Skyraider.

    • @Olleetheowl
      @Olleetheowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikeholland1031 two different subjects for discussion. 1). Why didn’t it achieve the fame and respect it deserved? . See my answer.
      2). Under a totally different political background than actually existed at the time. Would it have been possible for a significant use to be found for it, which would have generated that level of respect. And for it to have been remembered as the thoroughbred that it undoubtedly was?

    • @mikeholland1031
      @mikeholland1031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Olleetheowl I do not know, nor had I ever heard about one until a cpl of years ago I guess they didn't make too many of them.

  • @Idahoguy10157
    @Idahoguy10157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m curious why no version was used in the Korean War

  • @gary24752
    @gary24752 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what is the difference between the mosquito and the Hornet?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The biggest is that the Mosquito had a crew of two and the Hornet was a single seat. There would be quite a few others, the hornet is smaller, but I can't think of them off the top of my head

  • @johnnyblade4351
    @johnnyblade4351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Best Fighter ever Built....................................... MOSQUITO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

  • @ozdavemcgee2079
    @ozdavemcgee2079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idle thought. Drone technology. The woulds push toward E cars..will we see ( for domestic fun rather than military use ) will planes like this come back as electric..fairly light, no petrol or payload need, I could see it

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree and can see it happening to. 👍✈️

  • @Watson1
    @Watson1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your video, very enjoyable, and yes your pronunciation of the H is very important when speaking on a video. Otherwise I loved it. Just subscribed. Thanks.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I'm working on it and trying to improve. Great, thanks 👍✈️

  • @jaywalker3087
    @jaywalker3087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would have flown circle's around the P51 , which was a brilliant plane too !

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would of been very interesting to see it go head to head with a P-51

    • @paulbantick8266
      @paulbantick8266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AntiqueAirshow The P51D was a very good fighter but not as good as it's contemporary Mk.XIV Spitfire or late production Mk.IX.

  • @MrGeeyess
    @MrGeeyess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, Thankyou. A silly pedantic point but, pronunciation of the letter "H" only has one 'h' in it at the (back) end. Pronounced "aitch'.

    • @stanleybuchan4610
      @stanleybuchan4610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, you beat me to it!

    • @englishisasillylanguage5240
      @englishisasillylanguage5240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So poor old letter 8 is the only one that doesn't have an
      onomatopoeic descriptor? Huh -aitch works for me and lots of other speakers of English. By the way, riddle me though / tough / cough / bough etc.............

    • @oboyles
      @oboyles ปีที่แล้ว

      Only in the "official British" pronunciation.
      Pronounced "haich" in lots of countries.

  • @simonchaddock4274
    @simonchaddock4274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why do people who should research better confuse contra rotating with counter rotating (2:08). The Hornet had counter rotating propellers. Contra rotating has two propellers on the same axis.

  • @superwout
    @superwout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If it looks good, it is good...

  • @dufus7396
    @dufus7396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine that made of carbonfibre with turboprops

    • @CailenCambeul
      @CailenCambeul ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just thinking the same thing.

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hearing the words ‘aircraft’ and ‘scrap yards’ coupled together makes me sad.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very much agree. It's a shame, particularly when not even on was preserved

  • @alancox1444
    @alancox1444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    De Haviland made wooden planes because they didn't Know how to make metal ones. They knew about tropical delamination issues from their experience with the Mosquito. The even made the Vampire out of wood. WTF!

    • @WilhelmKarsten
      @WilhelmKarsten ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent comment, absolutely true..
      de Haviland was years behind in aircraft construction technology, it was still building wood and fabric biplane when most manufacturers were building all metal monoplanes.. this failure to introduce new technologies led to the worst engineering failure in aviation history. (The Comet Disaster) and destroyed the company in 1958.

  • @richardcarr6493
    @richardcarr6493 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THIS MADE IT INTO THE WAR ?? IT COULD VE DONE EVERYTHING THE MOZZY DID POSIBLY BETTER

  • @touristguy87
    @touristguy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hm
    Pretty sure that the Mosquito as not the fastest piston-engined fighter the RAF had.
    I can think of several other candidates just with RR engines.
    but I wonder, what if you didn't think that it was the fastest that the RAF had?
    Would you still make a video about it?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Mosquito wasn't the fastest, but I am discussing the De Havilland Hornet which is considered the fastest piston engine fighter. Even if it wasn't the fastest, there would be a good chance I' still cover the Hornet, as it lesser known and has an interesting history.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntiqueAirshow faster than the twin engine Heinkel?...the Arrow?

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@touristguy87 Sorry my apologies, I was meaning the fastest piston fighter in RAF service. I forgot to write that though. Compared to things like Heinkel's design and the Arrow I am unsure.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntiqueAirshow you could make a simple table with the top speeds of the various candidates

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntiqueAirshow really there is an obvious irony here in that you're not even sure if it actually was the fastest piston fighter in RAF service, therefore there's a good chance that some other plane is, which you don't even know about. That is because you don't understand either irony or irrelevance.

  • @johnnyblade4351
    @johnnyblade4351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    F**k Wished I had Been in That SQD..............

  • @Jack-D-Ripper
    @Jack-D-Ripper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is no Hay in "H" (aitch).

  • @johnziegelbauer4999
    @johnziegelbauer4999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No , the Rolls Royce of the sky ......

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes that is a fair point 👍✈️

  • @jollyjohnthepirate3168
    @jollyjohnthepirate3168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Capt. Brown said it was the best piston engined fighter he ever flew. It was a rare fighter that was totally over powered. It could do anything a single engined fighter could do....on one engine.

    • @Charon58
      @Charon58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hyperbole
      The idea that the Mosquito at 14,000 lbs empty could compete with the 9,000 lbs Sea Fury or late war 9’000 lbs Corsairs, both with more powerful engines than the Mosquito while having an engine shut down is just foolish.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a superb fighter. He rated it very highly, supposedly even stating it was the Ferrari of the sky.

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it wasn't a Mosquito. Yes similar, but a new design.

  • @perrydowd9285
    @perrydowd9285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like a f@©€^ up Whirlwind. 🤔

  • @stevecallagher9973
    @stevecallagher9973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Delamination? Should have used Ados!

  • @louisavondart9178
    @louisavondart9178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    05:29 Pilots dressed well in those days ! There is no information, apart from speed, about the performance of this aircraft. It's hard to tell how it would have fared against an FW190 in the hands of a competant pilot. Would a laminated airframe have stood up to the G forces of a turning fight ? I can imagine this plane could boom and zoom but that would be about it. I'd like to hear more....

    • @AntiqueAirshow
      @AntiqueAirshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is hard to know how it would of compared. I think you would be correct in the boom and zoom tactic. Possibly also as a long range escort or in the ground attack role. Photo reconnaissance as well. I'm not sure though, just hypothesizing.

  • @robertmaceanruig6291
    @robertmaceanruig6291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To Young to know 1948 child….

  • @garyhooper1820
    @garyhooper1820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Britain's best planes were made of wood. Interesting

  • @samhunt9380
    @samhunt9380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All the armchair critics, from aviation to spoken English, on here. Do us all a favour......start your own sites....

  • @byronbailey9229
    @byronbailey9229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Supermarine Spiteful was faster - 494 mph.

  • @user-gk2uv4zu1n
    @user-gk2uv4zu1n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just subscribed to your channel, which I enjoyed very much, except for your insistance upon pronouncing the eighth letter of the alphabet. The letter is pronounced AITCH not “haitch” for we people who were taught to speak and pronounce correctly, It grates. I have retained my subscription, and trust that you will take this small criticism as a friendly reminder. I think that you may well be, or have lost some subscriptions because of this.

  • @MauriatOttolink
    @MauriatOttolink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not D Haitch... it's D Aitch.

  • @MP-zf7kg
    @MP-zf7kg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    IMO, the Mosquito was the best bomber of the war, and the US totally screwed the pooch by not using the design. A crew of 2 could deliver an accurate bomb drop AND live to come home. The B17 was a piece of crap, and to this day I believe it was chose to enrich the industrialists, not to be effective.
    I'd not heard of the Hornet, so I'll watch this.

    • @bpisler
      @bpisler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ask the germans if they though the B-17 was a piece of crap

    • @gort8203
      @gort8203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess the RAF also screwed the pooch by building all those piece of crap Lancasters instead of more Mosquitos. If only you'd been there to advise them.

    • @robw7676
      @robw7676 ปีที่แล้ว

      The USAAF had to lobby hard to get supplied with the latest pressurised cockpit high altitude Mosquito reconnaissance aircraft in 1944 - the RAF wanted every one they could get.... but with Packard building large numbers of Merlin engines for the P51D, and Canadians knocking out Mossies for the RAF, I also never understood why the US didn't just license the design and build Mosquitos in the US, especially given their desire to bomb by day.

  • @Gruntol5
    @Gruntol5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's AITCH not HAITCH.

  • @stephenhigginson5061
    @stephenhigginson5061 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your accent is hard to understand what country are you from ?

  • @bigyin2586
    @bigyin2586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “H” is pronounced “aitch”, not “haitch”. Great video otherwise.

    • @adrianmorrow9882
      @adrianmorrow9882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m so glad you made this comment. It saved me having to do it. The narrator’s speech is not as clear as I’m sure we’d all like it to be.

    • @oboyles
      @oboyles ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everywhere.

  • @paradiselost9946
    @paradiselost9946 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    na.... maybe its just me, but i find the mozzie and hornet to be ugly. the nose just seems too short.
    whereas the comet dh88 has a longer nose, and with its slight bulge always makes me think of a bull-terrier... sorta cute :)

  • @1258-Eckhart
    @1258-Eckhart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The aircraft looks like a copy of the Bristol Beaufighter.