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In 1988 I hacked into a university just to get access to the internet and specifically IRC. 24hrs later I was working for the university and enrolled in degree programs. Since then I have not been without internet for more than a week.
I'm 19 and I've been an active user of different IRC servers for 7 years now. : ) It's an amazing place to be at. I've developed a few of my own too. The chatting experience you get in IRC is unmatched.
Oh man I remember IRC times when our part of town was so small the actual cool kids were those who attended special IT class and then taught all these things to other people and those other people in return accustomed "nerds" to tobacco and alcohol. Add in mopeds and gothic metal and emo-phase and damn weren't those the golden days!
IRC over ham radio via AREDN (mesh networking) is fun! Could also write something to pipe messages to and from HF radio via JS8Call (assuming all users of the IRC channel were verified licensed amateurs). One point from the video that's important to make: enabling TLS on an IRC server is *not* the same as end to end encryption. It's client-server encryption, meaning that the contents will exist in plaintext form in memory on the server at least temporarily (if not logged) between it being received, decrypted, re-encrypted for other clients, and sent out.
@@privateger ages ago, I used to use an add on to mIRC that implemented blowfish encryption. It supported channel and user encryption, even implementing diffie-hellman keyex for the user to user convos
I remember knowing which mp3 channels were good for more obscure artists but not a lot of sources, vs. the channels where you could find someone that could get you the new Britney Spears album in ONLY THREE HOURS. Good times.
@@shoraz they keep switching, so you must hunt them down, if away for a week I pretty much have to start over, being known by some helps as I get pointers but still annoying. I mean who but me and handfull of ohers are interested in obscure casette audiobook in Swedish from 70's turned to mp3s in 2003 by unknown enthusiast?
I'm fairly sure he meant a Raspberry pi as well. But, that got me thinking. The protocol itself is simple enough that an Arduino could in theory act as a main server. However that server would be quite limited as most of the user / channel info would have to be written to flash mem. Which would limit things to about 16k if you assume the server uses half of the flash ram. I was hoping that there was someone masochistic enough to have tried to do this. I started to look. I couldn't find anyone online that has done that quite yet. However, I did see a few projects that create IRC bots running on Arduinos to query the status of something.Which honestly makes a lot more sense.
@@soimless I looked myself. I'm sure someone tried and I think it's possible. I definitely wasn't going to dismiss the idea entirely! With them getting into the SBC market the lines are going to blur.
Watching this whole process reminded me of why it was so hard to find friends who I could share this part of my life with back then. Imagine trying to explain this whole process to someone who's never used a computer to do anything other than play Oregon Trail and has never even heard of "online."
This is about compiling and running your own server from source code, though; if all you're trying to do is connect to a friend's channel on a server that already exists it's _very_ simple for anybody that has ever actually used a PC. You download your client of choice, you type /server web-address-here then /join #channelname, and you're done. It's _arguably_ easier than joining a Discord server these days since you don't need an invite link you just need to know what the server and channel names are.
"it's like I half remember being a different person 20 years ago" "ship of Theseus" I felt this do much, lol. And love how Jason only has to mention the ship and doesn't need to explain further. Damn, I love you Rogues! While I love your builds and crazy antics, love when you venture into the tech too!
12:08 *Slaps with a large trout* Man that brings back some late 90s/early Y2K memories. Used to admin an irc server on mIRC back in the day. Glad there's a couple of guys with a TH-cam channel that are old enough to appreciate the same things I did.
IRC role play galore with mods that help guide "adventurers" (aka users) to clues and hints towards a never fully revealed but, must be deduced, internet scavenger hunt. Cicada 3301 style but modern rogue. Obviously the flag to capture is a picture of Brian with fries in his nose
Back when I was in highschool(graduated in 2002), we used to play Planetarion, and use bots on IRC to organize massive intergalactic alliances, and coordinate attacks. Some of the big alliances had hundreds of players that would go on massive raids against the smaller ones. The game was turn based, with one "tick" occurring every real world hour, and travel time depended on the types of ships you were sending and how far away the target was, so everything had to coordinated to make sure everybody hit the right targets at the right time. Apparently the game is still going strong, and still runs an IRC server lol
I was heavy in to IRC. I ran a pretty popular chat server and over time we learned how to connect to MSN chat w/ mIRC clients and raise hell/take channels. I hung out a bit on Dalnet as well. Those were fun times. We wrote super elaborate chat “scripts” to protect chats, take chats (split bots) etc. Met some crazy folks on IRC. I was around during the “Mafiaboy” stuff when he was DDoSing everyone! There are still quite a bit of us that still get on, in private servers. The large ones like Dalnet are dead :( .. I mean they have a couple hundred users but there used to be hundreds of thousands
kinda like the CB radio in my truck. Not many people use it anymore but I still find the dated technology fascinating. IRC could come back, just need to package it with a trendy UI and advertise like crazy.
I would love to join a modern rogue IRC channel. it'd be brilliant. I used it way too much back in the 90's. Theres a lot you can do with it. Scavenger hunts are good, you can do quiz matches, role playing. You can technically create bots for dice rolling. File transfer. I think most rogues here are fanbcying the idea of the scavenger hunts. cryptic quizes might be good too. I just wish I could join it! Nice reminder on the ole wayback machine guys. thank you!
Back in my misspent youth I wrote ircII while at CMU. Also ran an early ircd from there as well. We were amazed when we'd get 40 users on the network worldwide. A much simpler time.
Oh man, memories. Sorta. I still use IRC for D&D and general roleplay stuff. It lends itself well to text adventures, and you can set the bots up to roll dice, act as shop keeps, and all sorts of things.
Not sure how to feel when I find my self remembering and understanding all the old time references.. - "John slaps Modern Rogue around a bit with a large trout"
I used IRC as a teenager and young adult to download anime fansubs. As with all communities though, it seemed to die off 10-15 years ago. I think social media really put a few nails in that coffin.
Nah, IRC was actually still going pretty strong into the mid 2010s. The real thing that started killing it off was persistent chat apps with rich media like Slack and Discord taking off.
old man's still kicking! IRC is *THE BEST* place to chat for tech topics, and pretty great place for other stuff too depending on your client and server, it can actually be pretty modern-feeling, with link previews, chat history (to some extent), etc
I will come back when I can share photos and do voice calls and voice messages and even video calls. Until then I'm fine with the modern chat rooms like telegram or Discord etc etc
@@mbncd ... right. And in this case, MR is the seller. If you go to buy an F150 or a Sedona, Ford and Kia aren't going to tell you about all the recalls. Once you have it, they'll still meet their legal obligations to notify and correct, but it's not part of the sales platform. Thanks for ruining the joke, though.
True, but the situations in which your VPN are being unraveled are probably not ones that the average VPN user is going to be facing. In reality, regular VPN users are probably just using it to bypass Geo locked content and maybe avoiding some kid on Xbox Live getting his IP address. Anybody actually being investigated by government surveillance is probably going to need a hell of a lot more than a VPN
Suggestion for this kind of topic in future -- just have the Chuck Norris guy run the whole show, and waaaay in the background there's Murph and Shwood fighting with pugil sticks. For like the whole episode. I mean I get that the schtick is to be competence-adjacent but it'd be nice to have some useful info in the mix too.
Set up a bot that will reply with part of coordinates for the next modern rogue scavenger hunt if you say the right thing to it. The IP address would be the URL, and Murphy could setup a couple of challenges to find the full address.
I used IRC so much back in the day and it’s actually where I first dabbled with coding, leading up to creating a bot to run a game of Uno. Will just be creeping up on 20 years ago now =/
It's been a bit since the last time I watched Serenity, but I think Mal did technically say it as well, though it would have been in reference to what Mr. Universe said. But either way, Mr. Universe definitely would have been the original source there.
@@JemPatrick if he did, and I’m not saying you’re wrong because my memory could be faulty (wouldn’t be the first of the last time. LOL!) it would have been at the end of Mal’s fight when he’s sending out the report. But I think Mr. Universe directs the comment to Mal and says his name at the same time so our brains connect the two. Either way both Mr. Universe and other various Rogues have a point. Can’t stop the signal.
First used IRC in 1989 - there were no named channels, just numbers. IIRC, channels 1-10 allowed a large number of users (unlimited), higher channel numbers were limited to 10 people at a time, and negative numbers were 'private' in as much as they were hidden - but you couldn't keep random people out if they guessed the right number. Then +channels, which were replaced by #channels. The rise of EFNet, the later splits into Undernet, DALnet, etc. The first 'big event' was the first Gulf War, being on IRC real time with people chatting about missiles and bombs going off outside their homes was *intense*. It was an unreal experience. IRC got massive - 20 years ago. But the total number of users these days is a fraction of the heyday, as FB, Twitter, etc., are the big draws now. (And, before that, AIM, YIM, ICQ, Jabber, etc. all ate into IRC's popularity.)
Wait? When did IRC stop being a thing! I was on it last night lol! Man!! You guys keep making me feel older per episode! What's next... rabbit ears antennas on tv's ? OOOHHH do an episode on DTV! ...rabbit ears younger brother!
I've setup a scavenger hunt on discord before, but IRC may work a bit better for what you have in mind. I've had an idea to set up an IRC for a cyberpunk table top for some friends, but there's a lot of things you may be able to do.
Excellent episode! I was hoping you guys would eventually get around to more obscure internet communications and maybe something on open source OSes. I've been using Slackware Linux and FreeBSD for years but I rarely use IRC anymore. Might be time to dust off the ol' IRC client
Ah... good times! I was just thinking the other day that I should check up on my IRC channel I created... probably 4 years ago? Wow. Thanks for covering this, guys!
Man... I just checked, and all but one of the channels I used to regularly haunt no longer exist (my own included)... My nick has _long_ been deregistered for inactivity... I wonder if anyone on #blender is still around from the days I was? I wonder if anyone has any remembrance of me?
I have no idea if this is possible, but IRC seems like it could be used for ARGs or similar things, like a scavenger hunt, where a chatroom is set up with a bot in it that responds to certain keywords/-phrases with cryptic clues as to what to do next.
it could be done for sure. learn something like mIRC scripting and there are alot of things that can be done like that. mIRC scripting is a pretty simple language to learn too. Way back in the day I wrote over 50k lines of code without really realizing it when I got sucked in to mIRC scripting. I fully customized my own client and then created a bot client specifically to pair with the main client. mIRC scripting is easy enough to learn yet robust enough to be pretty dynamic in uses that it can get addicting lol
Loved the Firefly reference at 4:52, but not only was the quote from the wrong character. The information at the bottom of the screen was also incorrect as the quote happens in the movie and not the series. "Can't stop the signal" was, in fact, a quote frome Mr. Universe played by David Krumholtz in the 2005 movie Serenity.
Regarding Jason. I was at a hacker conference one. Every person there uses Thinkpads or some generic laptops - I've seen stack of laptops 15 Thinkpads high. There were two tables just *full* of macbooks, no other brands. Those were the ruby developers.
I know it was a joke, and said with a smile, but the "that band NIN", immediately had me doing the reaction Brian had. Also, it scares me that I really have that reaction someday like Brian says where you're old and ask the kids a question and only get more confused... 😬
I only like horror that makes me think like I love disturbing behavior but not the one which got bombed on rotten tomatoes the rottens tomateos ratio was set by people who watched the wrong version of the film. the one with the removed scenes is available on the pirate bay. I hate slashers though.
Actually, the best explanation i give to people who dont get it is this: "its just cool and different. you cant be overly pragmatic about things to the point of being annoying and boring. try something different. Its a hackery terminal on a linux computer with green screen matrix hackerman text and sht. its just cool"
I really miss mirc the good old days!!! this makes me want to use irc again. i miss all the scripting and chatting with all the cool people from around the world. i loved ircops and vhosts it was all so fun
Make an arg in irc? Like have certain users talking with their IP address visible, and if you look it up it’s connected to a website with some piece of the puzzle. Some Cthulhu Eldridge horror type stuff could be cool playing out over irc. Or like a zombie apocalypse style arg? Slowly uncover what happened and media behind it. I know you wouldn’t end up making a genuine game after the arg but it would still be fun to participate in
I remember using IRC and MIRC. We used for gangs with hackers, meet other hackers, and trade programs and bots and have battles. We used to take over rooms and mass kick and mass boot people out of rooms, take control and leave bots in charge. It was so much fun. I turned on my next door neighbor's daughter, who's mom was a nurse and her daughter was a juvenile delinquent, but very smart, to MIRC. It totally changed her life. She started flirting with hackers that taught her about computers and computing and she got so good at MIRC and made contacts that eventually she became an MIRC moderator and then got hired by them. I had heard that she ended up going to college and getting a programming degree. I lost touch with them. I always wonder what became of that young girl. I wonder if she ended up becoming someone big!
Download most any live linux and put on dvd, cd or USB-drive, I prefer 128G USB as you then can store stuff... there are dozens of flavours, Debian, Ubuntu, knoppix, CentOs... they all have directions how to make boot dvd/cd/USB-drive... you can then boot them from the media and evetything is run from that.
Oh, I Have Linux with mail client, FTP, Web-browser, text editor, disc cloning and other basics on one single floppy (text only, no graphics), and others on USB with full browser, office-suite, image-editing, sound editing... basically a fully functioning desktop install
I was introduced to linux around mid 90´s, before that I was on Commercial Unix like systems and DOS... yes, I am past 50, got introduced to computers mid to late 80s, so oooOoold school (like, built bootable system from booting floppy to compiling whole system from sourcecode downloaded via dialup, edited on VI...)
Over 18 minutes and you have missed one of the MOST important thing about IRC... NETWORK! Before 1996 there was really only ONE big IRC network, but because some issues that big network splitted to Ircnet and EFnet. I'm so old that I have used IRC from 80's to late 90's. After that, I just lost time to hang in IRC. But there is "our" channel that I know yet exists with 'old' friends, that I haven't "seen" in 20 years. But, I would say that IRC network is most important thing what makes IRC. History was made in IRC networks... Like OJ trial, there was quite chaos when people joined in one channel to see what final verdict would be. (oh, nostalgy memories) Before facebook (est. 2004), IRC-Galleria (est. 2000) (Finnish service) was made. Idea on it was that IRC people could upload their image and story about them so others would know who is behind nickname on IRC. But IRC was losing people quite fast, and IRC gallery started to live life of it's own (without IRC connectivity).
Well, the whole premise was to set up our own private server. Also, since some public networks are still like the Wild West of the internet, I didn't want to encourage people to connect if they're not familiar with the risks, etc. For instance, I wouldn't suggest to Brian or Jason to hop on EFnet and see what it's all about. Heh.
heres a fun one - IRC isnt just this little known backalley of internet chats twitch chat functionality essentially runs on IRC^^ its probably a highly modified version of it... but its still effectively IRC PS: i used IRC back in the day to chat with other listeners and the hosts of an internet radio channel... damn those were fun times^^
Oh hell yeah! Few years back I found out about IRC and used it for s while and it's just soooo cool. And yes there is literally a server for everything
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In 1988 I hacked into a university just to get access to the internet and specifically IRC. 24hrs later I was working for the university and enrolled in degree programs. Since then I have not been without internet for more than a week.
I'm 19 and I've been an active user of different IRC servers for 7 years now. : ) It's an amazing place to be at. I've developed a few of my own too. The chatting experience you get in IRC is unmatched.
Oh man I remember IRC times when our part of town was so small the actual cool kids were those who attended special IT class and then taught all these things to other people and those other people in return accustomed "nerds" to tobacco and alcohol. Add in mopeds and gothic metal and emo-phase and damn weren't those the golden days!
I still listen to Type O Negative to get a reminder of those times.
IRC over ham radio via AREDN (mesh networking) is fun!
Could also write something to pipe messages to and from HF radio via JS8Call (assuming all users of the IRC channel were verified licensed amateurs).
One point from the video that's important to make: enabling TLS on an IRC server is *not* the same as end to end encryption. It's client-server encryption, meaning that the contents will exist in plaintext form in memory on the server at least temporarily (if not logged) between it being received, decrypted, re-encrypted for other clients, and sent out.
To add onto this, the common E2EE solution is called "OTR". It only works for User->User communications however, not with groups.
@@privateger ages ago, I used to use an add on to mIRC that implemented blowfish encryption. It supported channel and user encryption, even implementing diffie-hellman keyex for the user to user convos
What is ‘licensed’ amateur? The radio waves belong to all of humanity, the same way oxygen is free for all to breathe.
@@ZiFrenZie unfortunately, the FCC would beg to differ
@@ZiFrenZie We don't live in fantasy land. If no regulation existed, it would be unusable.
I remember knowing which mp3 channels were good for more obscure artists but not a lot of sources, vs. the channels where you could find someone that could get you the new Britney Spears album in ONLY THREE HOURS. Good times.
Those IRC servers are still a thing, idk about music but for movies and shows you can still find IRC servers.
@@shoraz yup, audiobooks, movies...
@@najroe ohhh audiobooks, got any choice google search terms to get me to a good IRC channel for that?
@@shoraz they keep switching, so you must hunt them down, if away for a week I pretty much have to start over, being known by some helps as I get pointers but still annoying. I mean who but me and handfull of ohers are interested in obscure casette audiobook in Swedish from 70's turned to mp3s in 2003 by unknown enthusiast?
@@shoraz Yeah you can still get music. Mp3passion.
Dedicated server on Arduino?? Technically sure but I'm betting you meant a Raspberry pi. I used DCC A lot in the old days.
I'm fairly sure he meant a Raspberry pi as well.
But, that got me thinking. The protocol itself is simple enough that an Arduino could in theory act as a main server. However that server would be quite limited as most of the user / channel info would have to be written to flash mem. Which would limit things to about 16k if you assume the server uses half of the flash ram. I was hoping that there was someone masochistic enough to have tried to do this.
I started to look. I couldn't find anyone online that has done that quite yet. However, I did see a few projects that create IRC bots running on Arduinos to query the status of something.Which honestly makes a lot more sense.
@@soimless I looked myself. I'm sure someone tried and I think it's possible. I definitely wasn't going to dismiss the idea entirely! With them getting into the SBC market the lines are going to blur.
@@soimless it's super easy to wire up a micro SD card to an arduino
You can make a simple HTML webserver run on arduino using their ethernet shield. But that's about it :D
i'd go for an ESP8266. That would work.
Man, this brought back a lot of memories of downloading unofficial anime fansubs and manga translations from people on IRC... Those were the days.
Oh man, the fact that this is a video and it calls IRC "old-school" makes me feel so damn old.
Watching this whole process reminded me of why it was so hard to find friends who I could share this part of my life with back then. Imagine trying to explain this whole process to someone who's never used a computer to do anything other than play Oregon Trail and has never even heard of "online."
This is about compiling and running your own server from source code, though; if all you're trying to do is connect to a friend's channel on a server that already exists it's _very_ simple for anybody that has ever actually used a PC. You download your client of choice, you type /server web-address-here then /join #channelname, and you're done. It's _arguably_ easier than joining a Discord server these days since you don't need an invite link you just need to know what the server and channel names are.
I've been using IRC since 1994. Use it every day when i'm home.
"it's like I half remember being a different person 20 years ago" "ship of Theseus"
I felt this do much, lol. And love how Jason only has to mention the ship and doesn't need to explain further.
Damn, I love you Rogues!
While I love your builds and crazy antics, love when you venture into the tech too!
12:08 *Slaps with a large trout*
Man that brings back some late 90s/early Y2K memories. Used to admin an irc server on mIRC back in the day. Glad there's a couple of guys with a TH-cam channel that are old enough to appreciate the same things I did.
IRC role play galore with mods that help guide "adventurers" (aka users) to clues and hints towards a never fully revealed but, must be deduced, internet scavenger hunt. Cicada 3301 style but modern rogue.
Obviously the flag to capture is a picture of Brian with fries in his nose
Did we ever figure out who was behind Cicada 3301?
@@andie_pants Pretty sure we didn't. Probably the CIA or an equivalent.
What you are reffering to sir, is called a MUD. Knowing the terminology is the first step towards finding a guide to build it. Best of luck to you.
I’m rolling up a CoffeeLock!
IRC is such a great system. It's easy to set up and you can host it on anything without needing to rely on something like AWS, or Discord.
Back when I was in highschool(graduated in 2002), we used to play Planetarion, and use bots on IRC to organize massive intergalactic alliances, and coordinate attacks. Some of the big alliances had hundreds of players that would go on massive raids against the smaller ones. The game was turn based, with one "tick" occurring every real world hour, and travel time depended on the types of ships you were sending and how far away the target was, so everything had to coordinated to make sure everybody hit the right targets at the right time. Apparently the game is still going strong, and still runs an IRC server lol
I was heavy in to IRC. I ran a pretty popular chat server and over time we learned how to connect to MSN chat w/ mIRC clients and raise hell/take channels. I hung out a bit on Dalnet as well. Those were fun times. We wrote super elaborate chat “scripts” to protect chats, take chats (split bots) etc. Met some crazy folks on IRC. I was around during the “Mafiaboy” stuff when he was DDoSing everyone! There are still quite a bit of us that still get on, in private servers. The large ones like Dalnet are dead :( .. I mean they have a couple hundred users but there used to be hundreds of thousands
kinda like the CB radio in my truck. Not many people use it anymore but I still find the dated technology fascinating. IRC could come back, just need to package it with a trendy UI and advertise like crazy.
@@ayliniemi It already got repackaged as Twitch.
I would love to join a modern rogue IRC channel. it'd be brilliant. I used it way too much back in the 90's. Theres a lot you can do with it. Scavenger hunts are good, you can do quiz matches, role playing. You can technically create bots for dice rolling. File transfer. I think most rogues here are fanbcying the idea of the scavenger hunts. cryptic quizes might be good too. I just wish I could join it! Nice reminder on the ole wayback machine guys. thank you!
Ah yes, they join up and the trout slap gets used right away! Such memories...
Back in my misspent youth I wrote ircII while at CMU. Also ran an early ircd from there as well. We were amazed when we'd get 40 users on the network worldwide. A much simpler time.
Oh man, memories. Sorta. I still use IRC for D&D and general roleplay stuff. It lends itself well to text adventures, and you can set the bots up to roll dice, act as shop keeps, and all sorts of things.
Not sure how to feel when I find my self remembering and understanding all the old time references.. - "John slaps Modern Rogue around a bit with a large trout"
I used IRC as a teenager and young adult to download anime fansubs. As with all communities though, it seemed to die off 10-15 years ago. I think social media really put a few nails in that coffin.
I still use irc and its fantastic 😍
just start using it again. There are plenty of fairly active ones like KoshkaIRC, or the LainChan one.
Nah, IRC was actually still going pretty strong into the mid 2010s. The real thing that started killing it off was persistent chat apps with rich media like Slack and Discord taking off.
@@nafees_ur_rehman do you find people on there? i joind multiple times, probably found like 5 people max. i only tried dalnet tho.
@@Gh0_-st I use Rizon, Dalnet but I used meet 5-6 people daily on IRC.
I haven't even started watching yet and I know this video is going to make me feel ancient.
I actually miss the old days of staying up all night in college, chatting on Dalnet and Undernet... Good times.
I put on my robe and wizard hat.
Great quote callback! 🤣
IYKYK!
Okay, that pop-up about Mal is hilarious. "He does jobs and has a spaceship" -- technically completely accurate! 😂
old man's still kicking!
IRC is *THE BEST* place to chat for tech topics, and pretty great place for other stuff too
depending on your client and server, it can actually be pretty modern-feeling, with link previews, chat history (to some extent), etc
In before godwin's law!
[matrix] can do that and more
I will come back when I can share photos and do voice calls and voice messages and even video calls. Until then I'm fine with the modern chat rooms like telegram or Discord etc etc
Is Matrix/Element considered IRC?
@@RogueRen Matrix is a new protocol but you can set up bridges to IRC servers with it.
"Buy VPN"
"VPNs can be unraveled"
"Buy VPN!"
Welcome to Modern Rogue 😂
@@mbncd Sure, but if you're selling condoms you don't say "I still got the clap, but you should definitely use these".
@@mbncd ... right. And in this case, MR is the seller. If you go to buy an F150 or a Sedona, Ford and Kia aren't going to tell you about all the recalls. Once you have it, they'll still meet their legal obligations to notify and correct, but it's not part of the sales platform. Thanks for ruining the joke, though.
True, but the situations in which your VPN are being unraveled are probably not ones that the average VPN user is going to be facing.
In reality, regular VPN users are probably just using it to bypass Geo locked content and maybe avoiding some kid on Xbox Live getting his IP address. Anybody actually being investigated by government surveillance is probably going to need a hell of a lot more than a VPN
Wow. I feel old now. I remember using pretty much everything you guys are talking about. Lol
Hope everyone is staying safe and taking care.
I always kept an mIRC or similar client, love it. Especially when things get crazy. Need a modern rogue server or atleast a channel!
I do enjoy the more "rogue" elements of topics like this
Suggestion for this kind of topic in future -- just have the Chuck Norris guy run the whole show, and waaaay in the background there's Murph and Shwood fighting with pugil sticks. For like the whole episode. I mean I get that the schtick is to be competence-adjacent but it'd be nice to have some useful info in the mix too.
I love the editing/filming/audio of the modern rogue
Was a lot of fun being in the chat there!
Set up a bot that will reply with part of coordinates for the next modern rogue scavenger hunt if you say the right thing to it. The IP address would be the URL, and Murphy could setup a couple of challenges to find the full address.
mIRC chatrooms and FTP sites were the original places to download MP3s before Napster lol
I used IRC so much back in the day and it’s actually where I first dabbled with coding, leading up to creating a bot to run a game of Uno. Will just be creeping up on 20 years ago now =/
If you want to make a chat that just evaporates. You could do it as a holiday party. Every new year or like 4th of July.
Great video! I loved it, thanks for sharing!
You have failed all Browncoats Brian. It wasn’t Mal Reynolds. It was Mr. Universe! Having said that, awesome episode!
It's been a bit since the last time I watched Serenity, but I think Mal did technically say it as well, though it would have been in reference to what Mr. Universe said. But either way, Mr. Universe definitely would have been the original source there.
@@JemPatrick if he did, and I’m not saying you’re wrong because my memory could be faulty (wouldn’t be the first of the last time. LOL!) it would have been at the end of Mal’s fight when he’s sending out the report. But I think Mr. Universe directs the comment to Mal and says his name at the same time so our brains connect the two.
Either way both Mr. Universe and other various Rogues have a point. Can’t stop the signal.
Video: (Makes Firefly reference.)
Me: Goddammit... (Breaks out Firefly DVD collection.)
Gotta get that like on the video thanks for all the hard work MR crew
First used IRC in 1989 - there were no named channels, just numbers. IIRC, channels 1-10 allowed a large number of users (unlimited), higher channel numbers were limited to 10 people at a time, and negative numbers were 'private' in as much as they were hidden - but you couldn't keep random people out if they guessed the right number. Then +channels, which were replaced by #channels. The rise of EFNet, the later splits into Undernet, DALnet, etc.
The first 'big event' was the first Gulf War, being on IRC real time with people chatting about missiles and bombs going off outside their homes was *intense*. It was an unreal experience. IRC got massive - 20 years ago. But the total number of users these days is a fraction of the heyday, as FB, Twitter, etc., are the big draws now. (And, before that, AIM, YIM, ICQ, Jabber, etc. all ate into IRC's popularity.)
Wait? When did IRC stop being a thing! I was on it last night lol! Man!! You guys keep making me feel older per episode! What's next... rabbit ears antennas on tv's ? OOOHHH do an episode on DTV! ...rabbit ears younger brother!
Same, on almost daily 🤪
why does Finland gotta be so good at tech/software/computer science
Hearing Brian make a joke about Ruby on Rails and Jason agree makes my software dev rogue heart swell
I've setup a scavenger hunt on discord before, but IRC may work a bit better for what you have in mind. I've had an idea to set up an IRC for a cyberpunk table top for some friends, but there's a lot of things you may be able to do.
Excellent episode! I was hoping you guys would eventually get around to more obscure internet communications and maybe something on open source OSes. I've been using Slackware Linux and FreeBSD for years but I rarely use IRC anymore. Might be time to dust off the ol' IRC client
I met my wife of 20 years and some of my best friends on FreedomChat IRC server
Yeah if I only had a network to talk with. LOL :) Great bit I am subscribed.
I remember mIRC from middle school days
Excellent rundown of IRC and how to get it running!
This would be useful for certain world issues right now, this is cool!
Ah... good times! I was just thinking the other day that I should check up on my IRC channel I created... probably 4 years ago? Wow. Thanks for covering this, guys!
Man... I just checked, and all but one of the channels I used to regularly haunt no longer exist (my own included)... My nick has _long_ been deregistered for inactivity... I wonder if anyone on #blender is still around from the days I was? I wonder if anyone has any remembrance of me?
Somehow I simultaneously knew and didn't know you'd do this video.
15:37 "We got a pretty tech savvy audience here..." Yes, that's why we know you are talking nonsense about VPNs...
Efnet was my jam
I was using IRC before most people reading this were probably alive.
TLS stands for Transport Layer Security, It is the Modern version of SSL Secure Sockets Layer
I have no idea if this is possible, but IRC seems like it could be used for ARGs or similar things, like a scavenger hunt, where a chatroom is set up with a bot in it that responds to certain keywords/-phrases with cryptic clues as to what to do next.
it could be done for sure. learn something like mIRC scripting and there are alot of things that can be done like that. mIRC scripting is a pretty simple language to learn too. Way back in the day I wrote over 50k lines of code without really realizing it when I got sucked in to mIRC scripting. I fully customized my own client and then created a bot client specifically to pair with the main client. mIRC scripting is easy enough to learn yet robust enough to be pretty dynamic in uses that it can get addicting lol
This is the last thing I would expect to find on Modern Rogue, and I'm here for it!
Sharing Music on Dalnet in the good old days.
Great video! I'm currently researching on how to build my own IRC server in C++ from scratch.
I frequented a trivia channel on DALnet way, WAY back in the day. Those were good times, still maintain contact with some friends from there too.
My favorite quote is you can't stop the signal.
My money is mIRC joining this video at some point.
Every time I see a K-Line truck on the road, I get warm fuzzy memories of IRC.
th-cam.com/video/lZuUJBKePjE/w-d-xo.html They know whats up....
Loved the Firefly reference at 4:52, but not only was the quote from the wrong character. The information at the bottom of the screen was also incorrect as the quote happens in the movie and not the series. "Can't stop the signal" was, in fact, a quote frome Mr. Universe played by David Krumholtz in the 2005 movie Serenity.
I'm a computer programmer, but I must now know what the path and courses needed to become a double black diamond hacker! Brian point the way!
Best ad for VPN, yet
4:50 Anybody else miss that show? Just watched Serenity the other day and now I'm thinking about quite a bit about binging the whole thing.
Oh no! I missed the premier of a video about a topic I like. *Again.*
I remember IRC joined a few Linux groups back when I was younger
Psst Shwood, it was Mr Universe that said "You can't stop the signal."
a new protocol that's rising up in the Open Source is Matrix chat. It might be something to look into.
Regarding Jason. I was at a hacker conference one. Every person there uses Thinkpads or some generic laptops - I've seen stack of laptops 15 Thinkpads high.
There were two tables just *full* of macbooks, no other brands. Those were the ruby developers.
I know it was a joke, and said with a smile, but the "that band NIN", immediately had me doing the reaction Brian had.
Also, it scares me that I really have that reaction someday like Brian says where you're old and ask the kids a question and only get more confused... 😬
I only like horror that makes me think like I love disturbing behavior but not the one which got bombed on rotten tomatoes the rottens tomateos ratio was set by people who watched the wrong version of the film. the one with the removed scenes is available on the pirate bay. I hate slashers though.
Actually, the best explanation i give to people who dont get it is this: "its just cool and different. you cant be overly pragmatic about things to the point of being annoying and boring. try something different. Its a hackery terminal on a linux computer with green screen matrix hackerman text and sht. its just cool"
I really miss mirc the good old days!!! this makes me want to use irc again. i miss all the scripting and chatting with all the cool people from around the world. i loved ircops and vhosts it was all so fun
Military still uses IRC as a primary communications tool across all domains in joint and combined operations. It’s easy, and effective. Why upgrade?
Eli is the dedicated victim. Like that’s his jobdescription
This brings back memories
Make an arg in irc? Like have certain users talking with their IP address visible, and if you look it up it’s connected to a website with some piece of the puzzle. Some Cthulhu Eldridge horror type stuff could be cool playing out over irc. Or like a zombie apocalypse style arg? Slowly uncover what happened and media behind it. I know you wouldn’t end up making a genuine game after the arg but it would still be fun to participate in
not being tracked online is also a open source/foss/linux thing as a whole we don't like being tracked online
Ahhh, IRC... Where you can fight the system or download animal porn. The weird lost and found box of the innanet. Beautiful
I remember using IRC and MIRC. We used for gangs with hackers, meet other hackers, and trade programs and bots and have battles. We used to take over rooms and mass kick and mass boot people out of rooms, take control and leave bots in charge. It was so much fun. I turned on my next door neighbor's daughter, who's mom was a nurse and her daughter was a juvenile delinquent, but very smart, to MIRC. It totally changed her life. She started flirting with hackers that taught her about computers and computing and she got so good at MIRC and made contacts that eventually she became an MIRC moderator and then got hired by them. I had heard that she ended up going to college and getting a programming degree. I lost touch with them. I always wonder what became of that young girl. I wonder if she ended up becoming someone big!
Brings back old memories, from the 90's, or was that the 80's. Oh and I'm also a old time sysop a long time ago of bbses.
i used to be part of a movies IRC server, DCC was awesome :)
I had more experience with ICQ, but this was awesome. Makes me wanna learn more Linux/Cmd stuff. I'm a hardware head lol. Great content lately guys!
Download most any live linux and put on dvd, cd or USB-drive, I prefer 128G USB as you then can store stuff...
there are dozens of flavours, Debian, Ubuntu, knoppix, CentOs... they all have directions how to make boot dvd/cd/USB-drive... you can then boot them from the media and evetything is run from that.
Oh, I Have Linux with mail client, FTP, Web-browser, text editor, disc cloning and other basics on one single floppy (text only, no graphics), and others on USB with full browser, office-suite, image-editing, sound editing... basically a fully functioning desktop install
I was introduced to linux around mid 90´s, before that I was on Commercial Unix like systems and DOS... yes, I am past 50, got introduced to computers mid to late 80s, so oooOoold school (like, built bootable system from booting floppy to compiling whole system from sourcecode downloaded via dialup, edited on VI...)
>Modern rogue
>Talks about IRC
IRC :-) I have fond memories of early 2000s... I still @ people when I chat with them on Second Life, Discord and YT.
Over 18 minutes and you have missed one of the MOST important thing about IRC... NETWORK! Before 1996 there was really only ONE big IRC network, but because some issues that big network splitted to Ircnet and EFnet.
I'm so old that I have used IRC from 80's to late 90's. After that, I just lost time to hang in IRC. But there is "our" channel that I know yet exists with 'old' friends, that I haven't "seen" in 20 years.
But, I would say that IRC network is most important thing what makes IRC. History was made in IRC networks... Like OJ trial, there was quite chaos when people joined in one channel to see what final verdict would be. (oh, nostalgy memories)
Before facebook (est. 2004), IRC-Galleria (est. 2000) (Finnish service) was made. Idea on it was that IRC people could upload their image and story about them so others would know who is behind nickname on IRC. But IRC was losing people quite fast, and IRC gallery started to live life of it's own (without IRC connectivity).
Well, the whole premise was to set up our own private server. Also, since some public networks are still like the Wild West of the internet, I didn't want to encourage people to connect if they're not familiar with the risks, etc. For instance, I wouldn't suggest to Brian or Jason to hop on EFnet and see what it's all about. Heh.
honestly if you wanted a persistent irc presence for the modern rogue i'd just set up a few channels on one of the major networks
heres a fun one - IRC isnt just this little known backalley of internet chats
twitch chat functionality essentially runs on IRC^^
its probably a highly modified version of it... but its still effectively IRC
PS: i used IRC back in the day to chat with other listeners and the hosts of an internet radio channel... damn those were fun times^^
Hmm one wonders what interesting things you could do if you could get irc console access on twitch...
@@whtwolf100 i would presume thats why stuff like that is locked down tight XD
@@SharienGaming with the right user permissions...
Reminds me chilling on the wikihow irc editing articles
You guys should do an episode on Meshtastic and LoRa communication. Ham Radio Crash Course has a few good videos about it.
I can’t believe their chief editor is Chuck Norris
It was Mr Universe who said that "can't stop the signal Mal"
Oh hell yeah! Few years back I found out about IRC and used it for s while and it's just soooo cool. And yes there is literally a server for everything