Getting back into trials after 30 years on road rockets. Your channel is fantastic, sarcastic and a real inspiration to get stuck into the sport again. Many thanks for all your efforts and please keep it up.
One thing I found when injection first came to MX bikes is that when kicking them over, you might have better luck leaving the throttle alone as there is probably a start feature programed into it. The habbit of twisting the trottle while kicking is a hard one to break.
Test rode a 2023 Sherco last weekend. Loved the direct throttle response and injection worked like a charm (no bogging or delays). Bike feels even lighter than my 2023 TRS RR. We also had some issues with the starting, kick starting without giving gas worked better for us. And as always Danny, a great vid.
I have to say her lines and the back end just look amazing and the overall new look of that new baby ?? just to die for and also the levers and plastics are so cool nice one danny !!
Very interesting points , some bits I do like ! Be interesting to see how long it now takes for Beta to catch up with all the rest as I don’t think it will be long before gasgas change.
I've been told by a very good source HP that Beta have plans to upgrage the Evo in 2040 there's more colour schemes in the rainbow that can change the look so thats the route they sticking to
Thanks for another good review vid Danny. Interesting you would say the Sherco feels long. I did a little investigation - according to the Sherco website, the WB is 1310 mm. For a point of reference, the new Gas Gas you said that felt very similar to your Vert is 1320 mm. The feel is what matters. Keep up the great work.
@@TrialTube Danny, do you think the front tire would have felt more grippy in the turns if you had been able to move the bars forward to your preferred riding position? It would definitely put a higher weight percentage on the front axle and compress the forks more which would change the rake ever so slightly.
Good review how were the plastics and stickers. I had a sherco ten years ago and although the rest of the bike was shite the stickers held up well compared to my beta.
Think I was done with it as soon as she couldn't start it. Last thing I need at the end of a tough trial is to be spending all that time and energy trying to get the damn thing started. Reminded me of the first EFI OSSA.
Great video as always! Nice to see a test rider (who's way more looksome by the way) who actually rides like most of us mere mortals do. These new fandangled EFI bikes sure seem to finicky to start. Isn't that supposed to be easier than the carbed machines? Guys with the green bikes in our club are getting right side thighs like Tony Bou.
I have just bought the 2019 st250 and replaced the mudguard screws with plastic numberplate style screws so hopefully they will break instead of the mudguard 😊👍👍👍 And they're blue 😂👍
Hi Trial Tube, this bike has a completely new air box. In future can you please open up the airbox or show us the new filter. Huge part of regular maintenance and engine performance. Looks like a massive air cleaner as well which seems to be how it has to be with fuel injection.
@@TrialTube cheers. I've owned a couple of 05-06 gasgas bikes, an 11 and a 13 sherco and a beta evo (year doesnt matter haha). All have different airboxes with pros and cons. The 11 sherco being the easiest to work on and worst at keeping water out of the carb. The gasgas being impossible to work on. The beta somewhere in the middle.
@@TrialTube Agreed but the sherco was so much worse. 2010 and 2011 shercos had a flat filter that went to the very bottom of the airbox, no low point before the carb and no proper drain. Any water that got in went straight to the carb. At least the evo has a drain plug.
I like the looks of it. My last Sherco was crazy bad about bending right at the footpeg mounts, to the point that every 10 rides or so I would have to take it all apart and put a portapower in there to bend it all back into shape, otherwise the pegs were both pointed South. I would have liked to see them go with separate peg mounts, not welded on ones. Oh well, nothing could pry my Nitro 250 away from me anyway...
Hmmm I’ve not come away thinking I must have one, watching the vid though you both seemed incredibly balanced and in control. Ie a high level of confidence in a bike not personalized.
Thanks Danny for the review. It looks superb, can’t wait to see the 250 which hopefully will be more Clubman focused so less power and softer. I hope you get chance to test the 250 Sherco or Scorpa
Hi Danny, thanks again for a great review. You'll have to have Carrie help you some more I feel. I'm about her size and looking for my first trials bike. Looked exactly like Carrie trying to start a 250 beta. (well not exactly😉 doh) but couldn't start it. so am looking at 125's particularly st125 sherco due to the light weight, and ones available in my price range. Do you think it would be a good beginner to trials bike? 2012 model. I'm old and tiny. Cheers
Awesome review. Seems maybe a bit more revvy then the green bikes? If so and if good or bad probably depends on the rider. I'm glad to see they improved the airbox. The previous gen was a giant pain in the arse to change. Also the previous gen was pretty bad about killing the airbox when the fender was bent upwards. BTW how is the new gen Vertigo fender? Love the old bikes and how flexible they were, though I do prop mine after riding to keep upright lol. Oh also found out the hard way you can run over the old Vertigo with a large pickup truck and it will mostly survive.. at least mine did thankfully 🤣
@TrialTube just to clarify I didn't run it over. Someone visiting our club grounds ran it over with a RAM 2500 HD lol. I was clearing a section, heard a clank, and turned just in time to see the bed of his truck hike into the air and my bike getting smashed into the ground by his tire! . The only casualties were my Hebo Carbon helmet, the fork brace, kickstand mount, and bar pad. Scratched one of my forks, but between the clamps. Thankfully wheels and forks are still straight. Could of been way worse.... ofcoure it's insured, and the new 2023s are looking dang good. Maybe I should of told him to go back over it a few more times 😬😭🤪🤣
You stated that it's the lightest bike on the market maybe I got my kg to pounds wrong or google did but my 2023 beta is about a pound lighter I guess there is a question in there am I understanding something wrong
I'm just going according to the beta website the new beta weighs 146 and the weight he listed is a pound more I had to google kg to pounds so the conversion could be off p.s I'm not saying anything bad about the bike at all just looking for clarification thank you keep up the amazing videos
Great review as usual Danny! By the way, I am a bit surprised you didn't feel the clutch to be super snappy? Like on-off. I had the opportunity to try this bike, and it felt super light from the back-end as you said, fast revving as you said, but the clutch really felt extremely on-off
Yo Danny, nice review. I wont lie. In some parts of the vid you look MUCH better than usual. That tight overall ... wow! Also the long hair looks good!
Enjoyed that video , great 👍 . One of the big plus points seems to be the price ? Ok , 900 quid is a good wedge but how much is the bike ? Id wager that a lot of the "new bike buyers" , of whom I'm not one btw , wouldn't be swayed . I might be wrong and tbh I hope the new bike proves itself .
Yeah , well that's what I was wanting to say , but someone will say 900quid is a lot , which it is . Had it been a couple of thousand fair enough . I'd rather be on a green bike but that's maybe just me 👍
Hey another great video from danny and ohhhh just move over ? she is way better looking 🥰 soooo back to the video yes distracted there anyway brilliant ase always danny keep up with the info great to see another video !!!!
@@TrialTube I get why TRS failed - they didnt design the bike from the ground up as electric start. still has a manual kicker. I ride enduro and want a trials bike to practice skills - but after owning electric start enduro and MX bikes for 10 years there is no way I'm going back to kick. In a flame out stall situation, we are cranking on the electric start, and letting the clutch out before the motor has fully caught. the bike never stops
I think time will tell that the build quality and design is just as poor as past Shercos. What's the point of 2 Jubilee clips on the intake especially when one of them seems to be incorrectly fitted. I'd say you had to put a bit of effort in to start it Danny and appears unstartable for ladies or possibly even smaller blokes.
Well the jubilee clips (I have heard) are because of the compression. But when starting the kick start simply moves waaaaayyyyy too fast! As for starting it 100% requires practice and a technique. When I got used to it it was easy enough but for smaller (less experienced) bodies it may not be too easy.
makes sense to have guess presenters Danny. Lots of ladies and girls now ride, which we didn't see in the 80's and 90's which is awesome, why shouldn't you have Carrie or Kieghley helping out with review's, little Jack too of course :) With some of us old boys still riding we could do a review to, we all look for something different in a bike :) another great upload, thanks
The first thing I’d like to point out is your co presenter is a lot easier on the eye than your brother and dad 😂. Second that bike looked like a proper twat to start. Good review mate, you always make me wanna buy a sherco over all the other bikes you review.
The ossa has an unfair advantage the gearbox is made of ultra lightweight paper mache! Seriously though would love a trial tube ep on the I'll fated Ossa. If you can find one with a working gearbox..
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Getting back into trials after 30 years on road rockets. Your channel is fantastic, sarcastic and a real inspiration to get stuck into the sport again. Many thanks for all your efforts and please keep it up.
Welcome aboard! Thank you for the comments and glad you like my version of “the truth” will keep doing my best to please!
One thing I found when injection first came to MX bikes is that when kicking them over, you might have better luck leaving the throttle alone as there is probably a start feature programed into it. The habbit of twisting the trottle while kicking is a hard one to break.
Personally didn’t find it a problem, but young Carrie seemed to not get in with it too well…
My thoughts exactly
Test rode a 2023 Sherco last weekend. Loved the direct throttle response and injection worked like a charm (no bogging or delays). Bike feels even lighter than my 2023 TRS RR. We also had some issues with the starting, kick starting without giving gas worked better for us. And as always Danny, a great vid.
You are right! It’s a “no gas” starting procedure! Thank you for the support!
Carrie is a natural at this presenting stuff 👍
She did well
Great review of the bike. 👍.
Wow thank you!!!!
Wonder if they offer the seat kit for this yet?
They are doing a kit for it 100%
I have to say her lines and the back end just look amazing and the overall new look of that new baby ?? just to die for and also the levers and plastics are so cool nice one danny !!
8:29 is it linkage crack or it is moulding imperfection? Very nice bike i love it.
Not sure
those kickstands are like cheese.. the replacements are better.great vid, glad to see carrie on here, more of that dan! all the best, cheers
Thanks 👍
Very interesting points , some bits I do like ! Be interesting to see how long it now takes for Beta to catch up with all the rest as I don’t think it will be long before gasgas change.
Agreed!!!
I've been told by a very good source HP that Beta have plans to upgrage the Evo in 2040 there's more colour schemes in the rainbow that can change the look so thats the route they sticking to
@@stan9636 this is a class comment. Much appreciated and right on our level!
Thanks for another good review vid Danny. Interesting you would say the Sherco feels long. I did a little investigation - according to the Sherco website, the WB is 1310 mm. For a point of reference, the new Gas Gas you said that felt very similar to your Vert is 1320 mm. The feel is what matters. Keep up the great work.
That tells us that geometry is everything!
@@TrialTube Danny, do you think the front tire would have felt more grippy in the turns if you had been able to move the bars forward to your preferred riding position? It would definitely put a higher weight percentage on the front axle and compress the forks more which would change the rake ever so slightly.
Fantastic Carrie & Danny
Thanks and don’t forget, sharing is caring 😉
I'm curious, did that bike have a crack in the left side of the gold linkage?
No, perfect condition. 👍
Perfect timing for this review. But 🤫dont tell TRS!
That thing is gorgeous!
okay danny maybe you could give insights while we watch carrie the prophet...? great vid, thanks.
Starting to worry about how good my insights are..
Good review how were the plastics and stickers. I had a sherco ten years ago and although the rest of the bike was shite the stickers held up well compared to my beta.
They look great, super high quality. But only had it a day.
Think I was done with it as soon as she couldn't start it.
Last thing I need at the end of a tough trial is to be spending all that time and energy trying to get the damn thing started.
Reminded me of the first EFI OSSA.
I will be honest they have nak to get them going!
Great video as always! Nice to see a test rider (who's way more looksome by the way) who actually rides like most of us mere mortals do. These new fandangled EFI bikes sure seem to finicky to start. Isn't that supposed to be easier than the carbed machines? Guys with the green bikes in our club are getting right side thighs like Tony Bou.
It’s a technique, takes a bit of practice. I was fine.
I have just bought the 2019 st250 and replaced the mudguard screws with plastic numberplate style screws so hopefully they will break instead of the mudguard 😊👍👍👍
And they're blue 😂👍
Best way!!!
Hi Trial Tube, this bike has a completely new air box. In future can you please open up the airbox or show us the new filter. Huge part of regular maintenance and engine performance. Looks like a massive air cleaner as well which seems to be how it has to be with fuel injection.
Hi Tim, great comment and I will now make sure I include this in the next episodes!
@@TrialTube cheers. I've owned a couple of 05-06 gasgas bikes, an 11 and a 13 sherco and a beta evo (year doesnt matter haha). All have different airboxes with pros and cons. The 11 sherco being the easiest to work on and worst at keeping water out of the carb. The gasgas being impossible to work on. The beta somewhere in the middle.
@@timlewis5527 the Beta also terrible for water in the carb…
@@TrialTube Agreed but the sherco was so much worse. 2010 and 2011 shercos had a flat filter that went to the very bottom of the airbox, no low point before the carb and no proper drain. Any water that got in went straight to the carb. At least the evo has a drain plug.
I like the looks of it. My last Sherco was crazy bad about bending right at the footpeg mounts, to the point that every 10 rides or so I would have to take it all apart and put a portapower in there to bend it all back into shape, otherwise the pegs were both pointed South. I would have liked to see them go with separate peg mounts, not welded on ones. Oh well, nothing could pry my Nitro 250 away from me anyway...
It would be a hard change for me too now!
Hmmm I’ve not come away thinking I must have one, watching the vid though you both seemed incredibly balanced and in control. Ie a high level of confidence in a bike not personalized.
It felt great and I started to really get into it but I felt the same..I wasn’t like “I must have it!”
But I would t mind it either!
Thanks Danny for the review. It looks superb, can’t wait to see the 250 which hopefully will be more Clubman focused so less power and softer. I hope you get chance to test the 250 Sherco or Scorpa
Let’s hope so!
@@TrialTube I currently have. DL 250 and that has ample power which is manageable. Be great to hear your opinion on how the 250s compare
Great vid. All the goods and bads.
Try our best!
Well done Danny great video . Think you,re assistant needs longer legs to help starting
Absolutely, it’s not an easy thing to get used to the FI as we know 😅
Hi Danny, thanks again for a great review. You'll have to have Carrie help you some more I feel. I'm about her size and looking for my first trials bike. Looked exactly like Carrie trying to start a 250 beta. (well not exactly😉 doh) but couldn't start it.
so am looking at 125's particularly st125 sherco due to the light weight, and ones available in my price range. Do you think it would be a good beginner to trials bike? 2012 model. I'm old and tiny. Cheers
All the modern bikes are good and the Sherco head angle does lend itself to be friendly rolling off things,
Great review kids 👍 but for now I’ll stick with vertigo. We do have a Sherco too, both fantastic clubman bikes. Both 300cc
Fantastic rear end.
Game changing!
Awesome video, the new co-presenter is nice.
Glad you think so!
Awesome review. Seems maybe a bit more revvy then the green bikes? If so and if good or bad probably depends on the rider. I'm glad to see they improved the airbox. The previous gen was a giant pain in the arse to change. Also the previous gen was pretty bad about killing the airbox when the fender was bent upwards. BTW how is the new gen Vertigo fender? Love the old bikes and how flexible they were, though I do prop mine after riding to keep upright lol.
Oh also found out the hard way you can run over the old Vertigo with a large pickup truck and it will mostly survive.. at least mine did thankfully 🤣
Oh my god! You ran over it! Lol the new gen rear mudguard is good on the new Vertigo. Well I haven’t snapped one yet lol
@TrialTube just to clarify I didn't run it over. Someone visiting our club grounds ran it over with a RAM 2500 HD lol. I was clearing a section, heard a clank, and turned just in time to see the bed of his truck hike into the air and my bike getting smashed into the ground by his tire! .
The only casualties were my Hebo Carbon helmet, the fork brace, kickstand mount, and bar pad. Scratched one of my forks, but between the clamps. Thankfully wheels and forks are still straight. Could of been way worse.... ofcoure it's insured, and the new 2023s are looking dang good. Maybe I should of told him to go back over it a few more times 😬😭🤪🤣
You stated that it's the lightest bike on the market maybe I got my kg to pounds wrong or google did but my 2023 beta is about a pound lighter I guess there is a question in there am I understanding something wrong
I have a new beta and it’s defo heavier than that Sherco
Unfortunately we weighed every single new bike. In the real world.
The Sherco smashed the Beta out the water..
I'm just going according to the beta website the new beta weighs 146 and the weight he listed is a pound more I had to google kg to pounds so the conversion could be off p.s I'm not saying anything bad about the bike at all just looking for clarification thank you keep up the amazing videos
@@michaelmiskell no worries and we get you. Appreciate the support !!
@@michaelmiskell Is it an 80cc?🤣
Great review as usual Danny! By the way, I am a bit surprised you didn't feel the clutch to be super snappy? Like on-off. I had the opportunity to try this bike, and it felt super light from the back-end as you said, fast revving as you said, but the clutch really felt extremely on-off
It felt good to me with a high pressure, I guess it depends on the setting. Feeling light doesn’t mean it’s good.
@@TrialTube @PacoTrials I wonder if the soft clutch setting will make 2023 model's clutch response feel like 2022 model (not on-off)?
@@motocrivens4109 it’s not that bad…I suppose it’s each to their own like
Yo Danny, nice review. I wont lie. In some parts of the vid you look MUCH better than usual. That tight overall ... wow! Also the long hair looks good!
I appreciate that! Been working out haven’t I?
Yeah Danny can tell !
What is the cost of one?
It’s at the end.
Im sure these fuel injected bikes need a start button to prime the pump and start first kick!
The pump comes in fine. It’s practice that makes perfect
Even my pre-battery 2020 Vertigo 300 starts cold between 1-3 kicks. It's just a different beast and you gotta get used to it.
@@shawnmcginnis2508 indeed!
Enjoyed that video , great 👍 . One of the big plus points seems to be the price ? Ok , 900 quid is a good wedge but how much is the bike ? Id wager that a lot of the "new bike buyers" , of whom I'm not one btw , wouldn't be swayed . I might be wrong and tbh I hope the new bike proves itself .
Ya know I think you are right as people that are in the “new buying” bike rotation probably wouldn’t feel the difference in the cost jump
Yeah , well that's what I was wanting to say , but someone will say 900quid is a lot , which it is . Had it been a couple of thousand fair enough . I'd rather be on a green bike but that's maybe just me 👍
@@gordonshort4264 it’s horses for course
Karri is amazing,please tell me she's going to be in every future episode,
Haha, a lot of guys seem to say that…
Excellent
Thank you so much 😀 don’t forget to share the videos!!
Hey another great video from danny and ohhhh just move over ? she is way better looking 🥰 soooo back to the video yes distracted there anyway brilliant ase always danny keep up with the info great to see another video !!!!
Thanks 👍
when are trials bikes going to ditch the kickstart and get an electric starter, KTM enduro bikes got lighter when they did so
TRS already have this and the conversion is heavier believe it or not
@@TrialTube I get why TRS failed - they didnt design the bike from the ground up as electric start. still has a manual kicker. I ride enduro and want a trials bike to practice skills - but after owning electric start enduro and MX bikes for 10 years there is no way I'm going back to kick. In a flame out stall situation, we are cranking on the electric start, and letting the clutch out before the motor has fully caught. the bike never stops
did you hear that, all the green riders have left the chat.
Hahahaha maybe, maybe not!
I think time will tell that the build quality and design is just as poor as past Shercos. What's the point of 2 Jubilee clips on the intake especially when one of them seems to be incorrectly fitted. I'd say you had to put a bit of effort in to start it Danny and appears unstartable for ladies or possibly even smaller blokes.
Well the jubilee clips (I have heard) are because of the compression. But when starting the kick start simply moves waaaaayyyyy too fast!
As for starting it 100% requires practice and a technique. When I got used to it it was easy enough but for smaller (less experienced) bodies it may not be too easy.
Faut lui acheter un trial avec démarreur électrique ;)
makes sense to have guess presenters Danny. Lots of ladies and girls now ride, which we didn't see in the 80's and 90's which is awesome, why shouldn't you have Carrie or Kieghley helping out with review's, little Jack too of course :) With some of us old boys still riding we could do a review to, we all look for something different in a bike :) another great upload, thanks
That was a top comment mate and will take it into consideration!
@@TrialTube I would volunteer for the old boy test, but now I live in Canada it's a bit of a commute!! Cheers Danny, thanks for the videos
Naturally aspirated to fuel injection? Not really bothered to be honest about that mishap, I just liked liked what I saw.
I bet!
The first thing I’d like to point out is your co presenter is a lot easier on the eye than your brother and dad 😂.
Second that bike looked like a proper twat to start.
Good review mate, you always make me wanna buy a sherco over all the other bikes you review.
Haha well it was a bit of a pain but I didn’t struggle as much as Carrie coming from the Carb machine
Wow what a beautiful creature your co-tester is.
I must reminder to tell her!
woh !
Innit!
@@TrialTube your not answering from Scotland are you?, that's real commitment if you are ✊
@@badlarry172 nah I ain’t riding, but if I was I would still reply (didn’t get an entry this time or last time)
@@TrialTube 👍
Still heavier than a 12 year old Ossa lol
Haven’t weighed one? Would love too!
@@TrialTube 64.5kg
@@benspeedschannel888 wet or dry?
The ossa has an unfair advantage the gearbox is made of ultra lightweight paper mache! Seriously though would love a trial tube ep on the I'll fated Ossa. If you can find one with a working gearbox..
@@timlewis5527 I have one I could borrow…
66,9 kg ??? Heavier than 10 years old bikes….
I said lightest bike on the market. Are the bikes of ten years ago purchasable new?
@@TrialTube Of course not new, but purchaseable :-)
@@scannorse I all fairness I can only go off a comparative market item 👍
@@TrialTube Yep….just wondering why the bikes have become heavier over time.
2:39 Dsheesas Chryst, Danny! My eyes are bleeding! These boots dont fit at all. Unsubscribed!!! 🤣 Ok just kidding, but HOW DARE YOU!
You are right, but they go with my signature gear too well 🔥🔥🤘
Ettttttttt filer lui un 125 lec mecs ;) avec de la chance il va arriver a le démarrer ....next
Easy!