26:56 It's not about what you can use as a person it's about compute to be able to do inference to Run robots and make money in other ways it's not about a large language model it's about building Artificial general intelligence and The amount of compute that you get for free is Significantly reduced in comparison to what they have at their fingertips it's all about processing power GPU
Farzad: Kudos for this podcast. Superb content. Larry has so much WISDOM! Wisdom fueled by intellect, curiosity, and decades of experience, tempered by a painfully learned conservatism. Larry has sprinkled so many gems through this dialogue. He is such a treasure to the Musk community. Keep up the fine work!
a 20% ownership position in an AI company that is likely to shoot to a trillion dollar valuation, is not going to hurt the book value or the stock price of Tesla at all and will improve both immeasurably.
Open a.i. and Tesla were learning lessons for Elon .. of you want things done your way you need to own it outright and keep absolute control of the business. 😊
Sorry, but, I am 2:38 into video and it is not clear what you are talking about, so, I will try next video. I like to know right away what you are discussing and don't have time to watch to see. Edit: liked because of past videos.
🎉😊❤ Thanks so much, Farzad, for your excellent discussions with all your guests, especially with Larry Goldberg. Larry is very articulate and intelligent and, in particular, Larry's skill set informs him to know when to zoom in and when to zoom out. The knowledge one obtains from well informed perspectives is paramount in decision making.😊🎉❤
GREAT EPISODE!!! Larry is brilliant. I agree with him in the way he looks at AGI. Just as different people have different types of intelligence, some artistic, some mathematical, some engineering, some chess players. AGI will evolve similarly. And then there are the applications, the stack that will be built on top of that by even more targeted efforts, like FSD!!!
@@FriscoFatseas odd. I must have had a reply as I got notice of a new reply. But it’s gone. So did TH-cam delete it or whoever runs this channel delete it? What gives.
I'd like to see Musk invest in novel nuclear plant designs to make them safe, low cost, and cookie cutter so they can be rolled out quickly. The traditional nuclear power plant builders are not innovators.
As usual, great discussion! It also brought up a great point about immortal laws and regulations. I was hit by a thought that never occurred to me before. I will stick my head out and suggest that AI should be applied to the massive mountains of these chains to identify those that have outlived their usefulness. These would have to be reviewed and if they are useless, some percentage of them need to be addressed by government and retired. That percentage would have to be high enough to get to the point where laws and regulations get worked down to the point where there are only a few that have to be addressed per year. Can you imagine putting the government and associated fiefdoms on a perpetual maintenance diet? Holy crap! How fast could the national debt be significantly reduced by the potential savings by putting these organizations on a monitored fitness regimen? 😊😊😊😊😊😊
He talked about never putting XAi yourself under the influence of a competitor like Meta than incapacitate you. Same principle BRICS is taking in their dedollarization.
As a Tesla shareholder I’m all for the investment into Xai it’s a venture capital play that could be another revenue stream for Tesla without Tesla having to work on another project.
29:00 What does he mean by "stack?"... The ensemble of models and data? 47:16 "But when we're talking about general intelligence, there are 8-9 billion of us who each have a unique kind of general intelligence, so my personal view is that there's not gonna be one AGI." A couple of other questions that keep getting ignored: [1] what everyday people will have next to those few wealthy ones; [2] what even is intelligence? - It's hubris to talk our way out of the mind-body problem as if artificial intelligence has already been created and will soon exist to such an extent as to surpass our collective intelligence.
Such a thoughtful discussion. I’m thinking that although we don’t know the prize for AGI yet - Tesla probably will benefit greatly with a language AI like chatgpt - so that we can speak to the cars and say where we need to go and what we need it to do. In a future of autonomous driving - people aren’t going to want to have to type in address anymore :) Ah so that’s what Larry is saying at 20mins in.
I understand both sides but disagree on Tesla only trying to solve vision. If you would have asked me before Optimus I would have agreed. I still see XAI and Tesla moving to an area where they are competitive in the future.
1) The prize for robotaxi = roughly 8-12 trillion dollars 2) The prize for Optimus humanoid robot = 30-50 trillion dollars 3) The prize for AGI = path to ASI = Money doesn't mean anything anymore.
I asked chat gpt "if space is expanding at the speed of light, what is it expanding into?" It replied that space is stretching, not expanding. It really doesn't know how to interact to questions it can not fathom.
Training an A.I. on data from X is a fools errand. We're just building a super meming troll that may be politically forward, that sometimes pushes for it's only fans page through a link aggregator like beacons. Overall, The data is unreliable and isn't as robust for real world physical operations/application. 😂 Here is a list of other data sets we need to train an AGI 1. Microsoft's Git 2. Amazon's Audible and ebooks 3. Google's Search 4. Library of Congress 5. Scientific Journals Essentially, Social Media should come last.
You three are my favorite Tesla/Elon experts. Elon is a long-term thinker, and people constantly try to interpret him using short-term thinking. You three seem to get it (Aspergers?). I do not see how Tesla will still be manufacturing and selling vehicles in 10 years. It makes much more sense for Tesla to partner with an OEM (Ford) and become an EV platform/FSD tier 1. I love my Model 3 and Model Y, but as an investor, I look forward to when Tesla stops selling vehicles and concentrates on the tech. Selling vehicles is a distraction for Elon. I had hoped that Tesla would split into a car company (run by another CEO) and a tech company (xAI) run by Elon (I would divest from Tesla and follow Elon) but this direction does not appear to be feasible. Tesla investing in xAI may be the only path for some of us retail investors to "follow Elon." I think AI will progress as follows: Chatbots (now), Intelligent assistants (Grok?), FSD/Robotaxi (2030), robot assistants (Optimus) (2035), AGI (this is xAI) (2040+). By 2035, the personal car market will look completely different than it does today.
I think you guys need to listen to Elon and Peterson's interview and he comments about why he's doing this because he just don't want to be on the sidelines he's figures he's better to be a participant
49:40 Hans, you answered your own question, Elon sees the future without the regulation, his input and participation serves two functions, providing regulation and protecting humanity.
What everyone has to remember is that Elon’s number one goal is to make humanity multi planetary. Everything he does including Xai is somehow connected to that goal.
FSD is an AI that operates on processors in Tesla vehicles, consuming only a few watt-hours of power. Current LLMs require significant amounts of power, often measured in gigawatt-hours, to function effectively. Elon Musk likely hoped that through OpenAI, similar levels of efficiency as FSD could be achieved. However, the current trend in achieving AGI relies heavily on brute force, requiring substantial investments in processors and energy. To compete in this field, significant funding is necessary. This, along with a shift from non-profit principles, likely influenced xAI's strategic change away from OpenAI's original mission.
A loose, possibly weak analogy: Xai work is to an operating system and Tesla’s FSD is the application that will eventually will sit on top of a general AI (Grok!).
Are we giving that right wing Trump supporter a free pass and not discussing his foray into politics. Tesla Fanboys are starting to resemble MAGA supporters, if we can make money we don't care. Pathetic. Actually Farzad is one of a very few who actually provides honest analysis.
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Access to large amounts of unique data may be the reason that Amazon owns one medical. What better way to provide medical solutions than to own a nationwide healthcare network?q
Можна зрозуміти людей, які в дуже складний час намагаються не тільки "пливти по течії", але і просувати новітні технології в реальній економіці. Трамп гарний бізнесмен, але не дуже гарний геополітик. Його вислови провокують деструктивні сили в світі до дій, бо ті розуміють, що він буде працювати на короткострокову популістську перспективу і буде втрачати імідж США за невелику вигоду.
We the investors should ask at least 30% not 25% of Xai for 5B. 25% will not cut it. 35% of Xai for 5B will make a meaningful investment in Xai. That will push tesla stock price to pop and help its valuations and make institutional investors to accept that tesl is a tech and in Ai sector. You tubers like Farzad should initiate the argument so Elon knows what us the retail investors expect from Elon.
As a small Tesla investor (under 1,000 shares) I need xAI to be included in Tesla. I couldn’t buy SpaceX and I would be angry if I were priced out of yet another Elon company!
Didn't suggest he should or would accept anything from the DE court. His choices since acquiring Twitter in the manner he did have been at odds with attention to Tesla's interests and performance. Concern over his lack of focus on Tesla is rational given its 4 quarters of declining performance. He spends his days tweeting about politics and insulting the consumers who are the majority of Teslas customers. If he wants to be a troll 90% of his time, maybe Tesla would benefit if he made it 100%. GL
Why is everyone so up tight about Elon’s indirect support of Trump?? Some may not agree with his position … but he is doing no more than exercising his democratic rights along with 70 million of his fellow Americans????? I think Elon has a dilemma … in that there are obvious advantages in some of Trump’s positions on industry/economy affairs … but Trump, as an individual is deeply unattractive???? It certainly doesn’t affect my attitude to my Tesla shareholdings and the choice of car I drive.
Physical world AI interaction offers very promising tools that are broad enough to devote multiple disciplines and think tanks to the effort. It is exciting to extrapolate from the results of the development of the flip flop where the current research will go. Think of Microsoft Office on steroids 😊
Tesla’s board should bargain with Elon and ask Elon for 30% for 5B. Elon should agree to it in my opinion. Retail investors and You tuber should push for 30% so the board has more bargaining chips to ask for 30% instead of 25%. 25% will not move the needle but 39% does.
Shareholders gave Musk $50B paycheck without claiming ownership in xAI. The whole point of giving Musk that money was to flatten his threat to pull startups out of Tesla, like xAI.
Political prosecution? That's a moronic comment. The people of the United States have a right to free and fair elections. Trump tried damned hard to get around that. Although not nearly as important, the people of New York have a right to preserve a business environment where business fraud is not tolerated. My state was one of those whom Trump intended to silence on January 6th.
Current models are getting better not because they are more "intelligent", but because they are more predictive. And that predictive power is the result of properly curated training. This technique will never result in general intelligence. A general intelligence needs to be more than trained with massive banks of data and compute, it needs to be able to learn on its own in its operating environment. Nothing, that I am aware that is out there, can do that, and as far as I can tell, nobody is actually working on it. AGI is a chimera and anybody selling it, is selling snake oil.
When you drive you use a part of your being to drive, vision, memory, motor memory, your hands ,feet, eyes and so on, Tesla FSD replaces those functions with the Vehicle , the FSB computer and soft wear. But critical thoughts and memories intersect with your actions, to produce work, art, relationships and power over your actions in the mental and physical worlds, that would be replaced by AGI...do you really want that? Co-existence in the past never worked out very well for the pig or the native. Demystification means what to the forced submissive? As I say let it be done or what? Everyone is fast to run to what to do, maybe we should be asking should we? Before it is to late to stop our straight line lives.
Agreed, all it would take is the built-in timestamps to make it way more watchable. Nobody sane wants to sift through an hour of crap to find the 5mins that interests them.
Does Tesla need Energy? Does Energy need AI? Does Robotics need AI? Does AI need Space X/ Starlink? Do they need Elon’s Chip? Does SpaceX need AI to get to Mars? Think people.. ☝🏽🧠🤗
Thanks, Farzad. Great content! Elon is the super hero of the 21st century. To support his political and social agenda, I even bought a Tesla M3. It is the worst car I've ever had, but definitely worth the pain to show my commitment to Elon's goals.
The value of X is the data - sure, so then who uses X? Not common people in most places on earth. So it is the mind of politicians, wealthy and lobbyist. Their thoughts has value and XAI could train on it.
The cash demand suggested was far too much. XAi could raise $10Bn additional pretty easy if needed. As its private, then no issues on stock price. the long term payback will be massive and that payback will become exponential. The limiting factor will be humanities attitude to the massive social and perhaps welfare change and governments long term attitude given the social/economic impact AI will bring.
If judge re-denies Musk's pay package despite the re-vote to grant it to him is Musk stable enough to accept this ruling or might he dump his shares, take the best employees and ideas and form a new company? After all, the 20x or so that he grew Tesla's mkt cap benefitted him handsomely as a large shareholder himself. Will he throw a tantrum over a re-denial?
Why would he accept a purely political ruling by an obvious activist? There's been plenty of CEOs that had similar pay packages (5% of mkt cap) and zero of them were ever blocked in this way. It's wildly unprecedented and they don't even have any proper justification for why they ruled that way. That's not how contracts work, you don't get to alter the deal 10 years later. Would you accept it if a judge said you have to work for the next 10 years without pay? Or have to pay back the last 10 years to your boss? Of course not, you'd fight it because it's clearly crooked as hell.
It's irresponsible for a public company CEO to be highly vocal for one side or the other. Hurts company and shareholders. BoD is not reining him in and they need to be replaced.
I agree but I think Elon should push more the idea that the government is fighting him so he can't support them. And I think Elon has to start new lawsuits against the government for the craziness just to occupy the government and protect his companies.
Sure, Elon should leave and take 95% of the companies valuation, engineers, Ai team, funding, and innovative drive with him, then Tesla stock can crash like hell and they can focus on being a Toyota with Gary Black and Ross Gerber as Co-CEO’s with more vehicle designed advertising in the Super Bowl. They can sell robotaxi, Optimus, and energy business to other companies and be valued at max 150 billion market cap. Good idea, unfortunately for you the Tesla community doesn’t agree with you as shown during the shareholder meeting.
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26:56 It's not about what you can use as a person it's about compute to be able to do inference to Run robots and make money in other ways it's not about a large language model it's about building Artificial general intelligence and The amount of compute that you get for free is Significantly reduced in comparison to what they have at their fingertips it's all about processing power GPU
Where are the timestamps, dude?
@@liquidsnakexif you click on the play bar the timestamp will come up
❤He is brilliant. Elon said they could plug high voltage directly into the megapack. This means that you do not need as many transformers. 😮
Thank all three of you for a great conversation. Wait and see is never easy but the wait is so worth it...go team!!!
Farzad: Kudos for this podcast. Superb content. Larry has so much WISDOM! Wisdom fueled by intellect, curiosity, and decades of experience, tempered by a painfully learned conservatism. Larry has sprinkled so many gems through this dialogue. He is such a treasure to the Musk community. Keep up the fine work!
Definitely!
a 20% ownership position in an AI company that is likely to shoot to a trillion dollar valuation, is not going to hurt the book value or the stock price of Tesla at all and will improve both immeasurably.
Again, I agree with Larry's analysis.
Tesla needs XAI and XAI needs Tesla
To me the wildest part of Elons Story is how openAI slipped through his fingers. Universe changing event that i wonder about
Open a.i. and Tesla were learning lessons for Elon .. of you want things done your way you need to own it outright and keep absolute control of the business. 😊
I think that the loss of OpenAI and the loss of his son to the Woke Mind Virus are the things that seem to generate a real emotional reaction in Musk.
To thine own self be true, Elon!!!
Your maths not been wrong yet!
Love ya!!
Sorry, but, I am 2:38 into video and it is not clear what you are talking about, so, I will try next video. I like to know right away what you are discussing and don't have time to watch to see. Edit: liked because of past videos.
same, i feel the video title is just click bait. Come to the point what this video is about!
🎉😊❤ Thanks so much, Farzad, for your excellent discussions with all your guests, especially with Larry Goldberg.
Larry is very articulate and intelligent and, in particular, Larry's skill set informs him to know when to zoom in and when to zoom out.
The knowledge one obtains from well informed perspectives is paramount in decision making.😊🎉❤
Elon's 'politics' seems to be centered on telling the truth to the public.
Something Society desperately needs.
GREAT EPISODE!!! Larry is brilliant. I agree with him in the way he looks at AGI. Just as different people have different types of intelligence, some artistic, some mathematical, some engineering, some chess players. AGI will evolve similarly. And then there are the applications, the stack that will be built on top of that by even more targeted efforts, like FSD!!!
Find someone who loves you like farzad loves Elon
I love you.
Elon has done more for humanity than anyone in the last 100 years.
You two scare me ..😂
@@FriscoFatseas odd. I must have had a reply as I got notice of a new reply. But it’s gone. So did TH-cam delete it or whoever runs this channel delete it?
What gives.
@@codycast not sure by hi :)
I'd like to see Musk invest in novel nuclear plant designs to make them safe, low cost, and cookie cutter so they can be rolled out quickly. The traditional nuclear power plant builders are not innovators.
you definitly do not want to be beholding to or at the mercy of Meta or anyone else.
*beholden to, but yeah I agree
will beholden to Nvidia .. no way to avoid that
Beholden to TSMC if not NVDA
NO! Wilbur Wright died in 1912 of Typhoid Fever! His brother, Orville, survived until 1948 when he died of a heart attack!
EXACTLY BRO
As usual, great discussion! It also brought up a great point about immortal laws and regulations. I was hit by a thought that never occurred to me before. I will stick my head out and suggest that AI should be applied to the massive mountains of these chains to identify those that have outlived their usefulness. These would have to be reviewed and if they are useless, some percentage of them need to be addressed by government and retired. That percentage would have to be high enough to get to the point where laws and regulations get worked down to the point where there are only a few that have to be addressed per year. Can you imagine putting the government and associated fiefdoms on a perpetual maintenance diet? Holy crap! How fast could the national debt be significantly reduced by the potential savings by putting these organizations on a monitored fitness regimen? 😊😊😊😊😊😊
He talked about never putting XAi yourself under the influence of a competitor like Meta than incapacitate you. Same principle BRICS is taking in their dedollarization.
Thank you guys so much! I learn so much from you. You have thoroughly squeezed my little-grey-cells! I feel like I’m on a 3rd cup of coffee😅
As a Tesla shareholder I’m all for the investment into Xai it’s a venture capital play that could be another revenue stream for Tesla without Tesla having to work on another project.
"I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING,BUT YES I'M OBVIOUSLY A "ELON MUSK SUPPORTER"!!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️👁️👁️👁️👁️ AND 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️👁️👁️👁️
29:00 What does he mean by "stack?"... The ensemble of models and data?
47:16 "But when we're talking about general intelligence, there are 8-9 billion of us who each have a unique kind of general intelligence, so my personal view is that there's not gonna be one AGI."
A couple of other questions that keep getting ignored:
[1] what everyday people will have next to those few wealthy ones;
[2] what even is intelligence? - It's hubris to talk our way out of the mind-body problem as if artificial intelligence has already been created and will soon exist to such an extent as to surpass our collective intelligence.
Such a thoughtful discussion. I’m thinking that although we don’t know the prize for AGI yet - Tesla probably will benefit greatly with a language AI like chatgpt - so that we can speak to the cars and say where we need to go and what we need it to do. In a future of autonomous driving - people aren’t going to want to have to type in address anymore :)
Ah so that’s what Larry is saying at 20mins in.
I understand both sides but disagree on Tesla only trying to solve vision. If you would have asked me before Optimus I would have agreed. I still see XAI and Tesla moving to an area where they are competitive in the future.
Han's suggestion is madness. The reason OEMs fail is they are vertically integrated. For this to work it must be be perfectly integrated.
Pretty much. I've seen some crazy vertical integration examples in practice and crazy management directives to try to make them work.
1) The prize for robotaxi = roughly 8-12 trillion dollars
2) The prize for Optimus humanoid robot = 30-50 trillion dollars
3) The prize for AGI = path to ASI = Money doesn't mean anything anymore.
Thank you as always for your insights Larry. You are the guru
X ai energy fluctuations easy to cure with ultra capacitors... very efficent (over 96%) and very durable (over a million cycles).
I asked chat gpt "if space is expanding at the speed of light, what is it expanding into?" It replied that space is stretching, not expanding. It really doesn't know how to interact to questions it can not fathom.
So Larry says it is OK to invest in a technology company which can't attract talent???
Training an A.I. on data from X is a fools errand. We're just building a super meming troll that may be politically forward, that sometimes pushes for it's only fans page through a link aggregator like beacons. Overall, The data is unreliable and isn't as robust for real world physical operations/application. 😂
Here is a list of other data sets we need to train an AGI
1. Microsoft's Git
2. Amazon's Audible and ebooks
3. Google's Search
4. Library of Congress
5. Scientific Journals
Essentially, Social Media should come last.
If Tesla future depends on AI (robotaxi/bot) and AI people don't want to work there (as suggested in the pod), then it is sunk without XAI.
Just like google turned a standard &habit, bing isn’t on par over 20 years later. It matters which agi is king.
Eye-opening, thanks. I feel like I've just taken a college course about the New Age!
First wins with AGI if they have the best data. Data quality is paramount.
Elon has more data inflow than anyone. Tesla cars, x, and gronk are all being fed to his ai
You three are my favorite Tesla/Elon experts. Elon is a long-term thinker, and people constantly try to interpret him using short-term thinking. You three seem to get it (Aspergers?).
I do not see how Tesla will still be manufacturing and selling vehicles in 10 years. It makes much more sense for Tesla to partner with an OEM (Ford) and become an EV platform/FSD tier 1. I love my Model 3 and Model Y, but as an investor, I look forward to when Tesla stops selling vehicles and concentrates on the tech. Selling vehicles is a distraction for Elon. I had hoped that Tesla would split into a car company (run by another CEO) and a tech company (xAI) run by Elon (I would divest from Tesla and follow Elon) but this direction does not appear to be feasible. Tesla investing in xAI may be the only path for some of us retail investors to "follow Elon."
I think AI will progress as follows: Chatbots (now), Intelligent assistants (Grok?), FSD/Robotaxi (2030), robot assistants (Optimus) (2035), AGI (this is xAI) (2040+). By 2035, the personal car market will look completely different than it does today.
You two are talking about genitive AI and AGI as if it's the same thing and it's not even close to being the same thing there is a huge difference
I think you guys need to listen to Elon and Peterson's interview and he comments about why he's doing this because he just don't want to be on the sidelines he's figures he's better to be a participant
49:40 Hans, you answered your own question, Elon sees the future without the regulation, his input and participation serves two functions, providing regulation and protecting humanity.
It's the theft of or eroneous use of what may come from others that's concerning, I believe.
I totally agree with u 👍
We shall see sir
I think Optimus will need reasoning to be extra valuable, thus xAI makes sense.
Optimus needs sort of AGI on Mars. Signals takes forever earth -mars, even with clever starlink in deep space.
What everyone has to remember is that Elon’s number one goal is to make humanity multi planetary. Everything he does including Xai is somehow connected to that goal.
What is the TLDR for this video
So this Larry Goldberg guy has an opinion...Farzad Interviewed him.
FSD is an AI that operates on processors in Tesla vehicles, consuming only a few watt-hours of power. Current LLMs require significant amounts of power, often measured in gigawatt-hours, to function effectively. Elon Musk likely hoped that through OpenAI, similar levels of efficiency as FSD could be achieved. However, the current trend in achieving AGI relies heavily on brute force, requiring substantial investments in processors and energy. To compete in this field, significant funding is necessary. This, along with a shift from non-profit principles, likely influenced xAI's strategic change away from OpenAI's original mission.
A loose, possibly weak analogy: Xai work is to an operating system and Tesla’s FSD is the application that will eventually will sit on top of a general AI (Grok!).
Are we giving that right wing Trump supporter a free pass and not discussing his foray into politics. Tesla Fanboys are starting to resemble MAGA supporters, if we can make money we don't care. Pathetic. Actually Farzad is one of a very few who actually provides honest analysis.
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Great conversation! Thanks
I was hoping tesla would invest 5B in invidia.
Access to large amounts of unique data may be the reason that Amazon owns one medical.
What better way to provide medical solutions than to own a nationwide healthcare network?q
Можна зрозуміти людей, які в дуже складний час намагаються не тільки "пливти по течії", але і просувати новітні технології в реальній економіці. Трамп гарний бізнесмен, але не дуже гарний геополітик. Його вислови провокують деструктивні сили в світі до дій, бо ті розуміють, що він буде працювати на короткострокову популістську перспективу і буде втрачати імідж США за невелику вигоду.
We the investors should ask at least 30% not 25% of Xai for 5B. 25% will not cut it. 35% of Xai for 5B will make a meaningful investment in Xai. That will push tesla stock price to pop and help its valuations and make institutional investors to accept that tesl is a tech and in Ai sector.
You tubers like Farzad should initiate the argument so Elon knows what us the retail investors expect from Elon.
So you’re in the know of xAI’s current valuation?
Congratulations!
In Elon We Trust
As a small Tesla investor (under 1,000 shares) I need xAI to be included in Tesla. I couldn’t buy SpaceX and I would be angry if I were priced out of yet another Elon company!
If we're talking about Optimus, Tesla can easily provide the electronics and mechanics easily but then the question is it only had a brain.
Larry wisdom. 👍
Elon didn’t say Grok 3 would be the greatest. Grok3 end of 2024 and Grok4 2025 might be greatest
Didn't suggest he should or would accept anything from the DE court. His choices since acquiring Twitter in the manner he did have been at odds with attention to Tesla's interests and performance. Concern over his lack of focus on Tesla is rational given its 4 quarters of declining performance. He spends his days tweeting about politics and insulting the consumers who are the majority of Teslas customers. If he wants to be a troll 90% of his time, maybe Tesla would benefit if he made it 100%. GL
Why is everyone so up tight about Elon’s indirect support of Trump?? Some may not agree with his position … but he is doing no more than exercising his democratic rights along with 70 million of his fellow Americans????? I think Elon has a dilemma … in that there are obvious advantages in some of Trump’s positions on industry/economy affairs … but Trump, as an individual is deeply unattractive???? It certainly doesn’t affect my attitude to my Tesla shareholdings and the choice of car I drive.
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Physical world AI interaction offers very promising tools that are broad enough to devote multiple disciplines and think tanks to the effort. It is exciting to extrapolate from the results of the development of the flip flop where the current research will go. Think of Microsoft Office on steroids 😊
Tesla’s board should bargain with Elon and ask Elon for 30% for 5B. Elon should agree to it in my opinion. Retail investors and You tuber should push for 30% so the board has more bargaining chips to ask for 30% instead of 25%. 25% will not move the needle but 39% does.
Shareholders gave Musk $50B paycheck without claiming ownership in xAI. The whole point of giving Musk that money was to flatten his threat to pull startups out of Tesla, like xAI.
So you’re telling us you know the current value of xAI?
Use stock as the money. Give them the five Billion
Yes more dilution! Anyway Elon M. smart enough not to accept Tesla shares for xAI share.
Political prosecution? That's a moronic comment. The people of the United States have a right to free and fair elections. Trump tried damned hard to get around that. Although not nearly as important, the people of New York have a right to preserve a business environment where business fraud is not tolerated. My state was one of those whom Trump intended to silence on January 6th.
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Current models are getting better not because they are more "intelligent", but because they are more predictive. And that predictive power is the result of properly curated training. This technique will never result in general intelligence. A general intelligence needs to be more than trained with massive banks of data and compute, it needs to be able to learn on its own in its operating environment. Nothing, that I am aware that is out there, can do that, and as far as I can tell, nobody is actually working on it. AGI is a chimera and anybody selling it, is selling snake oil.
When you drive you use a part of your being to drive, vision, memory, motor memory, your hands ,feet, eyes and so on, Tesla FSD replaces those functions with the Vehicle , the FSB computer and soft wear. But critical thoughts and memories intersect with your actions, to produce work, art, relationships and power over your actions in the mental and physical worlds, that would be replaced by AGI...do you really want that? Co-existence in the past never worked out very well for the pig or the native. Demystification means what to the forced submissive? As I say let it be done or what? Everyone is fast to run to what to do, maybe we should be asking should we? Before it is to late to stop our straight line lives.
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Artificial intelligence platform.... You mean AIP from Palantir?? 😏
KITT 2024
I'd love to watch but TLDW
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Agreed, all it would take is the built-in timestamps to make it way more watchable.
Nobody sane wants to sift through an hour of crap to find the 5mins that interests them.
xAI will earn more from the Optimus than Tesla.
meta's llama is not free for comercial use.
Too much verbal diarrhea is off-putting. The genius.
That guy doesn’t get it.
Does Tesla need Energy?
Does Energy need AI?
Does Robotics need AI?
Does AI need Space X/ Starlink?
Do they need Elon’s Chip?
Does SpaceX need AI to get to Mars?
Think people.. ☝🏽🧠🤗
Thanks, Farzad. Great content!
Elon is the super hero of the 21st century. To support his political and social agenda, I even bought a Tesla M3. It is the worst car I've ever had, but definitely worth the pain to show my commitment to Elon's goals.
Why is it the worst car you ever had?
I find it odd that you say that, Model S is by far the most comfortable driving experience I've ever had, with added excitement
@@MrScott_e Don't hold your breath for an honest answer, the OP a dishonest lefty concern troll.
@@MrScott_e Don't hold your breath for an honest answer, OP is clearly a concern troll.
The value of X is the data - sure, so then who uses X? Not common people in most places on earth. So it is the mind of politicians, wealthy and lobbyist. Their thoughts has value and XAI could train on it.
Please tell Elon not to
Charzad
@ 67 : 3 0 China is the proof of concept for Tesla ❤️tytyty
What?
Honey,
Keep doing what you're doing...
I'm very proud of you.
I love you. 💋
How many times must you show them before they understand that you know what you're doing in business, and, now, politics?
Does Tesla Robotics need X Data??? YES!
Use your brain people! 😐
Depends but if you want to build the meanest AI you surely need X.
Yay!
Grifting aint easy...
Tongethar
The cash demand suggested was far too much. XAi could raise $10Bn additional pretty easy if needed. As its private, then no issues on stock price. the long term payback will be massive and that payback will become exponential. The limiting factor will be humanities attitude to the massive social and perhaps welfare change and governments long term attitude given the social/economic impact AI will bring.
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If judge re-denies Musk's pay package despite the re-vote to grant it to him is Musk stable enough to accept this ruling or might he dump his shares, take the best employees and ideas and form a new company? After all, the 20x or so that he grew Tesla's mkt cap benefitted him handsomely as a large shareholder himself. Will he throw a tantrum over a re-denial?
Why would he accept a purely political ruling by an obvious activist?
There's been plenty of CEOs that had similar pay packages (5% of mkt cap) and zero of them were ever blocked in this way. It's wildly unprecedented and they don't even have any proper justification for why they ruled that way.
That's not how contracts work, you don't get to alter the deal 10 years later. Would you accept it if a judge said you have to work for the next 10 years without pay? Or have to pay back the last 10 years to your boss? Of course not, you'd fight it because it's clearly crooked as hell.
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Glad you had a guest that knew what he was talking about because you certainly don’t!
Elon is good when he talks Tesla but his politics will make life tough. His investment in Trump for a few bucks will really hurt him
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It's irresponsible for a public company CEO to be highly vocal for one side or the other. Hurts company and shareholders. BoD is not reining him in and they need to be replaced.
Yea, when I read the headline I feared 'Elon Musk's most ambitious investment yet' was going to be 'a second Trump presidency'!
I agree but I think Elon should push more the idea that the government is fighting him so he can't support them. And I think Elon has to start new lawsuits against the government for the craziness just to occupy the government and protect his companies.
But he needs to learn to support the people of the USA rather than one side of the political thinking than the other..
Trump 2024!
I'm really starting to lose respect for a lot of you..
Elon untethered shows the failure of the board of directors to perform their oversight duties.
How dare you criticize my work on the board!
Would you say the same about all the other politically biased CEOs?
How so?
Tesla, Tesla, Tesla should be the conversation and Elon should go sail off into the sunset. Larry should go with him!
Sure, Elon should leave and take 95% of the companies valuation, engineers, Ai team, funding, and innovative drive with him, then Tesla stock can crash like hell and they can focus on being a Toyota with Gary Black and Ross Gerber as Co-CEO’s with more vehicle designed advertising in the Super Bowl. They can sell robotaxi, Optimus, and energy business to other companies and be valued at max 150 billion market cap. Good idea, unfortunately for you the Tesla community doesn’t agree with you as shown during the shareholder meeting.