I had to laugh when you mentioned about people touring on a BSO with a binbag bungeed to the rear rack. I got around Europe just fine thank you very much using this method, back in the days of extremely tight budgets. You also mentioned setting off with a vague compass direction pointing to Spain but ending up in Greece. Again, me. Almost literally; on one journey I set off from a fruit farm in Kent after the apple season and headed to Denmark to pick strawberries. I ended up in Crete picking olives, mainly due to wherever my host lorry driver was heading whilst I was hitchhiking 🤷♂️. That particular journey lasted four months, it wasn't bikepacking but that's just me saying yes, I agree that vehemently sticking to a set route can be somewhat of a fun-sponge. Great podcast Jethro 👍
Just listened to the podcast, while packing my panniers to go cycling / touring / bikepacking 😂. A great podcast, the perfect accompaniment to packing, Brittany here we come!
I've looked at those when my LD vaudes burst at the seams from carrying logs 😉 In the end I went down the cheaper route and bought a tube of shoogoo and some nylon thread and stitched them up. They look like hell but will do a few more years still 😉
@@JethroJessop i got mine second hand of market place for a really good price. As Panniers go they are well priced in comparison to a lot of other brands
That's great, I'm glad. I thought it might be a bit awkward but it was actually really good fun and I could happily have gone on waffling away for hours 😉
I'm a traditional Ortleib back roller classic guy here, back and front (front rollers).......but how can you define backpacking really....Bicycle touring has been doing it for decades, you whack some bags on and pack 'em up full of belongings and on yer way......The most recent form of Bikepacking is obviously the Minimist way, packing the bike as narrow as possible for singletrack trekking and camping usually only for a weekend. Touring on the other hand promotes a much longer duration. I think it's great that bikepacking bags such as the frame and top tube bags have been invented as it allows touring on a bicycle much more convenient.
I think it's weird that bikepacking has become associated with short term, lightweight trips. These are the absolute opposites of what I think of it as - carrying everything you need to survive, as deep in the wilderness as you get, for as long as possible 😉
@@JethroJessop yeah, trailers are pretty much maintained trails & tarmac but those single wheel trailers might work...??? but there's not much OFF-ROAD where I live so a two-wheel trailer works just fine
@@elizabeththompson4424 thats the secret. Find what works for you and go with it. I can get everything i need into my bags and panniers now so hopefully I won't have to buy any new gear for a good long time
Cant help there i'm afraid. If you go to the podbean link in the video description there is a link to Apple Podcasts that should work. If not, let me know and i'll ask Mike. I use Spotify so can't advise much more than that.
I really had to restrain myself from going off topic or we'd still be recording now, a day later ;) He was very accommodating and I hope I provided some good content.
@@Bikepacking Even if I thought you were serious I'd still be laughing. I'll defend my opinions in the very same breath as I defend other peoples counter opinions. We're all trail buddies in the end :)
I had to laugh when you mentioned about people touring on a BSO with a binbag bungeed to the rear rack.
I got around Europe just fine thank you very much using this method, back in the days of extremely tight budgets.
You also mentioned setting off with a vague compass direction pointing to Spain but ending up in Greece. Again, me. Almost literally; on one journey I set off from a fruit farm in Kent after the apple season and headed to Denmark to pick strawberries. I ended up in Crete picking olives, mainly due to wherever my host lorry driver was heading whilst I was hitchhiking 🤷♂️.
That particular journey lasted four months, it wasn't bikepacking but that's just me saying yes, I agree that vehemently sticking to a set route can be somewhat of a fun-sponge.
Great podcast Jethro 👍
Its the ultimate freedom, to travel like that. And to me bikepacking is about feeling free
Just listened to the podcast, while packing my panniers to go cycling / touring / bikepacking 😂. A great podcast, the perfect accompaniment to packing, Brittany here we come!
Thank you, I'm glad it came out ok.
Hope the trip is a good one!
Panniers all the way for me, Arkel Dry lites, love them. Enjoyed the Podcast Jethro, top job
I've looked at those when my LD vaudes burst at the seams from carrying logs 😉
In the end I went down the cheaper route and bought a tube of shoogoo and some nylon thread and stitched them up. They look like hell but will do a few more years still 😉
@@JethroJessop i got mine second hand of market place for a really good price. As Panniers go they are well priced in comparison to a lot of other brands
@@johnpagan2382 yeah they are definitely on my list for when these current ones finally can't be patched anymore 😉
I enjoyed that podcast very much!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
That's great, I'm glad. I thought it might be a bit awkward but it was actually really good fun and I could happily have gone on waffling away for hours 😉
I'm a traditional Ortleib back roller classic guy here, back and front (front rollers).......but how can you define backpacking really....Bicycle touring has been doing it for decades, you whack some bags on and pack 'em up full of belongings and on yer way......The most recent form of Bikepacking is obviously the Minimist way, packing the bike as narrow as possible for singletrack trekking and camping usually only for a weekend. Touring on the other hand promotes a much longer duration. I think it's great that bikepacking bags such as the frame and top tube bags have been invented as it allows touring on a bicycle much more convenient.
I think it's weird that bikepacking has become associated with short term, lightweight trips. These are the absolute opposites of what I think of it as - carrying everything you need to survive, as deep in the wilderness as you get, for as long as possible 😉
FYI last time I BIKE CAMPED I used a BIKE TRAILER to take the weight off the bicycle
I very nearly bought a trailer at one point but i figured it would be too difficult to manage off road so never pulled the trigger
@@JethroJessop
yeah, trailers are pretty much maintained trails & tarmac but those single wheel trailers might work...???
but there's not much OFF-ROAD where I live so a two-wheel trailer works just fine
@@elizabeththompson4424 thats the secret. Find what works for you and go with it. I can get everything i need into my bags and panniers now so hopefully I won't have to buy any new gear for a good long time
Hi Jethro. Don't seem to be able to find the podcast on Apple podcast App?!?
Cant help there i'm afraid. If you go to the podbean link in the video description there is a link to Apple Podcasts that should work. If not, let me know and i'll ask Mike.
I use Spotify so can't advise much more than that.
@@JethroJessop Tried it and it’s not working. I’m not sure if The Bikepacking podcast is on Apple.
@@j.r.newton2427 Hmmm, not sure then. I'll ask Mike and get back to you...
Seems like it has been flagged as unavailable for unknown reasons. Mike is looking into it so hopefully this will get resolved
Looks good Jethro. You gave Mike hell 😡😂
I really had to restrain myself from going off topic or we'd still be recording now, a day later ;)
He was very accommodating and I hope I provided some good content.
Bikepacking is just evolution of tradition cycle touring … thats all … Everything evolves
Absolutely. Its all multi-day cycling and its all good.
Your not bikepacking with panniers lol
Thank you for the final word Mr Bikepacking authority. All hail your wisdom
@@tobygreenwood5036 lol I couldn’t resist lol know jethro would find it funny
@@Bikepacking Even if I thought you were serious I'd still be laughing. I'll defend my opinions in the very same breath as I defend other peoples counter opinions. We're all trail buddies in the end :)
Pannier Peregrination?
@@mikelambrou4462 the title of my next book perhaps 😉