Mercedes E55 AMG Honest Review - What I Love and Hate about this Super Sedan (W211)
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- In this video, I'm going to be giving an honest in-depth review of my 2003 W211 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG, and what its like to drive. The E55 AMG is definitely a well rounded car. With a 5.4L Supercharged V8, named the M113k, Mercedes enthusiasts regard it as one of the last true AMG's, while still offering the modern amenities you would expect in a luxurious Mercedes. Its definitely fast, and you will have no problem daily driving it, but you began to see its fall backs as you explore its more dynamic side. Corners may not be its strong suit, but the refinement and power definitely make up for it. Given its amazing tuning potential, its not uncommon to hear this cars pushing over 500 horsepower. Hope you guys enjoy this review, along with the other AMG content we have on this channel.
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Drove my 05 E55 for 5 years. Absolute sleeper sedan, devastated so many folks that didn't understand the AMG badge. I felt like the shape of the car was ageless, only the headlamps showed their age.
the funny thing is... as im looking outside my kitchen , i can see the amg-factory in the neighbour city where all those engines were built. and now i see them all over the internet in the whole world, greetings from leutenbach, next to affalterbach(amg-home) Germany :D
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How cool 🤩
Best place to live
One of the best looking Mercedes ever made. It’s effortless look just ages perfectly and the build quality is exceptional, love this Merc
In my opinion it’s gotta be the W204 C63 facelift
Wasim K yes that is also a very very nice Merc
Its*
This is the right type of car for when you're cruising around and you see some E60 530i guy with aftermarket "M" badge looking you in the eyes as he's trying to flex on you.
dudeinaforeign lol I’d leave you with my e55
@dudeinaforeign for sure ... an e55 stock easily beats out an m5 e60 - and light tuned e55 with 700hp will rip your little 335i ass off
@@patmosby_8330 depending on 335i tbh the n54 is unreliable but easy as hell to tune
Well my tuner 535D will rip your e55 and m5 apart tbh
@@pavanlalli5710 e55 is pretty easy to tune too but somehow not many people as the 335i tune it
What a great review, such a gem 💎 of a car, absolutely one of a kind and timeless as ever
Nice video. Nice car. For the W211 to be 16 years old it still looks modern on the exterior and interior.
thanks for the review mate
Cool review bro💯🤟🏽
Great Review! 😎😎💪💪
I love my CLS55 AMG, these cars are and will forever be legendary!
You've got my BIG BROTHER! I've got a W209 2005 CLK 55 AMG with the AMG Avantgarde Sport Pkg. and love it lol The M112/M113/M113k family of engines will go down in history as one of the best engines MB and AMG ever touched.
gangster car bro! would love to own one of these... cheers for the good review
thank you!
@@WestVanGarage what's the type and percentage of tint on this?
really enjoyed your video man. you're a good presenter
Thanks Ryan, really appreciate it!
Great Video
loooove my e55. got it this summer. blew up the engine doing absolutely nothing.. previous owner was doing something wrong. bt i changed the engine and now i know the car completely. love it its so amazing.. i love the m113 v8. such a good engine, (ironic i know).. i do miss the handling of my w202 c43 but the insane comfort and the raw power and torque is so adictive.. great video keep them up !
Sadeoo7 Blew up? Most likely ringland failure of cylinder #8 which this engine is known for.
Happened to me with my srt 😓 glad to hear it worked out one day will park the e55 next to the srt goals bro
@@alextorkelson6261 hella late reply. but from what we could gather taking the engine appart it seems like the supercharger rotors shatteered and the engine ate metal fragments and grenaded. its super weird buut thats what we understood from all the destructionl.
These cars at timeless period looks good sounds good and still by today standards it’s fast
"Flooring it becomes such an addiction, and you hear this wonderful noise"...Yes that noise is sirens!!
That's me in literally every sports car I've ever had. It got to the point where I said no more because I was born with a lead foot. I simply MUST drive insanely fast in a car that was meant to drive fast. Otherwise just give me a boring floating mattress.
The E55 was a nice car in its time. I had the opportunity to own a 2006 E55 for about a year a few years ago. I love the body style and the interior was nice too. Even though the car is powerful (mine was stock) the 5 speed transmission and its slow shifting really dated the car. Also the electronic brakes provided no pedal feed back at all. I really liked the bodystyle so much that I found a nice 2008 E63 with the performance package as a replacement for the E55. I was very impressed with it after the first drive. The engine is powerful, the power is not as immediate as on the E55 but it is there just a little higher in the rev range. The 7 speed transmission is much better than the 5 speed in every way. The brakes are powerful and have a great feel to them. The visual changes they made to the car (bumper, side skirts, mirrors, steering wheel, gauge cluster and shifter knob) make the car more modern feeling. Anyone looking at the E55 should take a E63 out for a drive also. And I know about the headbolt issue but not all of them are affected by that. As with any aging German car (AMG or M car) you need to have money in your budget for repairs and maintenance as these cars are not cheap to keep on the road.
Also don’t forget your bashing the 5 speed transmission but it’s absolutely bulletproof, the 7 speed has some problems
The 5 speed won’t break on you like the 7 speed will
I had a choice between a triple black, 2-owner, dealer maintained 2005 E55 and a 2008 E63 with equally impressive records. After some research and thanks to Tavarish, Alex at LegitStreetCars and AMG Meister, I ended up choosing the E55 after learning about the potential head bolt issues on the early M156 engines and premature failures of the 722.9 7-speed. I have had it almost 2 years and I have not regretted the choice and have done all the maintenance and services that you would expect after 100k miles including motor and trans mounts, conductor plate, giubos and front torque arms and have upgraded the cooling system and added a slightly smaller VRP pulley along with a mild tune (530hp) and I couldn’t be happier with the reliability of the older platform. It is my daily and I bought this car to eat up highway miles in comfort and it does that job very well but my favorite thing is the "WTF?" look I get when an old fart in a nearly 2 decade old (mostly) stock Mercedes runs off and leaves their new 5.0 or SS Camaro. I don’t plan on ever selling it and I’m actually looking for an SL55 or CL55 to add as a stablemate.
Excellent info Guys ! 2 Great AMG E55 and E63 Reviews.... Car mags talked about those lousy Brakes on the early E55s..... Mercedes made the mistake of going to that Drive by wire nonsense instead of regular hydraulics....
Just needed a tcu tune
The car is amazing bro.
Still a great looking car! Would prefer this over a BMW M5 v10
Watches Sneakers M5 still faster
inb4 engine explodes :D
M5 still faster tho
Ofc but reliable? No
@@saimk4239 alot easier to make the e55 faster cheaper too
For those who didn’t know the w211 chassis is almost the exact same as chargers of the same era as well as the trans.
Shift kits for hemi transmissions paired with this car make it a monster cuz the transition is so sloppy out the box
Interesting I think the e55 amg may just be my next car and right now driving a 2005 dodge magnum rt ( hatchback charger they made for 3 years) so funny to think that they basically share some parts
That makes me rethink so many things! The SLK was shared with the Chrysler Crossfire, the E-class eventually used the successful chassis that originally the 300C/Charger's "failed" chassis design was supposed to be before MB scrapped it and gave it to Chrysler, the S-Class was shared with Maybach. Any others?
So much bang for the buck!
This car is almost 20 years old and still a beast
I like the wheels on your E55. Need to get some wheels for mine. Also got to get headers to hear some noise and make a lot more power. The stock exhaust manifold is a joke.
I totally forgot about how cool these are,I saw one yesterday and reminded me! Love to have one.I’ve had a couple Mercs and beemers I’m looking for the E55 now, I live close to a retirement community hopefully can find one some cool old guy took great care of and didn’t beat. If you don’t mind what did you pay? What’s the price for a good one?
Good video, gonna buy this, the e500 w212 or the Volvo S80 V8 as my next car.
i have an xc90 v8, im looking at e55’s cause the s80 wouldnt be a big enough performance bump for me
Where did you get that big trunk carbon spoiler from looks amazing 👍🏻
Beautiful looking car
The track hawks got better exhaust note but I’m sure you can open up the Benz system and make it a bit deeper sounding.that’s the cool thing about the E55 AMG I think most people see a big sedan and it’s a bit of a sleeper that way if you strip the AMG and kompresser badge I’m sure you’d surprise people off the line big time!
I really want 1 !!
Imagine a straight pipe from the headers..
Too raspy...
@@yousefal-assaf2985 Never!
Mercedes exhausts have to have resonators/ resonated muffler or else it will sound horrible
@@yousefal-assaf2985 even a V8?
My cousin deleted his muffler about 5 years ago and its honestly not too bad. It's too quite from factory
Finally someone who doesn't call it's a 5.5l😂😂
A real torque monster and sleeper
Great video, also in the market for one but a lot have too much miles(120k+)where I’m at and they cost the same as one would cost with 80k miles elsewhere smh but I’ll will keep looking
Greetings from Germany! This thing is build for German High Ways without speedlimits!
Your blessed to have such great roads
i like the w211 AMG models because they aren't bulged out like RS6. Wagon looks as any other wagon, you never know its got 3x more power than the W211 next to it. Here in nordic countries this is specially the case because W211 was very popular taxi with 4cyl diesel. And they look almost exactly same. So there are plenty of them around.
An excellent sleeper car
I’m looking to pick up a job 45 minutes to an hour away and the commute is 95% highway and I think this would be a perfect car
we just got a 2005 w211 m113k e55 amg and HOLY SHIT DOES IT HAUL. Stock is 469 hp but we plan to put on weistec supercharger, bigger pulley, bigger throttle bodies, bigger injectors, new headers, and new digital tune - expected hp ~ 750
These M113k’s are capable to push 650+hp and 700tq with couple of light mods all w stock internals. Nuff said. 😎
Yes sir 💯
Did you removed its 3-pointed star from the hood :-(. I have an ‘05 E350 which I also enjoy at all times.
bro, i also own a E55 amg with 2 of the rear cats deleted and it sounds good, but i really liked the way you car poped on the shifts and can you reply what has been done so that it sounds that way?
Hmm last time I checked under there, everything looks stock to me.
thanks for the reply. loved your video ;)
Thanks for watching!
Pour a drink out for the AMG V12 biturbo (M279)...never to be seen again. Kubler made mine ... I guess I have to keep it forever.
Cheers to Kubler and his magnificent creation
Do you still have this car? How reliable was it and was it somewhat affordable to fix?
If I get one of these should I straight pipe it I’m just curious
Do you have any videos on a w124? If not I think that would be a cool car to cover
Unfortunately I don't, but would love to review one! (especially the 500E)
Mercedes w124 hammer amg was first sedan that reached 300kph in end of the 80s or begining of 90s.
Not a pagani
Not a lambo
Not a chiron
But this, this is my dream car!
Shame that i own the 2009 w211 E200 sport line, and it costs around 29$k because of the high customs in my country, while the E55 in the U.S costs around 15$k ! Am crying
I have an S55 same engine just a lot more options, great cars and great engines haha,
I have an 06 E55 AMG wagon, and while I agree with a lot of what the host says, there were some upgrades in later years of the E55. Specifically, the steering in the later years is much quicker ratio. I don't have any complaints about it, and my other car is an 07 Cayman. The SBC braking system also apparently wen through some calibration changes, because I honestly really like the brakes on my car. I am running Akebono pads, which are a touch less grabby than the stock pads, and that improved the overall feel of the system. I generally really prefer more aggressive pads, but the Akebonos really feel like a perfect match on this car. The stock suspension is not the greatest, but it isn't awful either. I do wish replacement options were more plentiful for the wagon though. Honestly the biggest let down about the car is the transmission. Mine has developed some weird tendencies lately, refusing to freewheel on coast, and giving a strange slip, then grab feeling on acceleration in lower gears, but it was always a bit sluggish. I've become somewhat obsessed with the idea of swapping it out for a more modern transmission like a ZF 8HP. :) I think that would take the car to truly great if you could properly integrate it.
Check out LegitStreetCars Cannel as he replaced a transmission coupling disc that apparently affects transmission shifting, and also he shows easy DIY change of gear modulator under car. I’m no expert here so please don’t shoot me down if I’m wrong here. Just trying to help. 👍🏼
@@georgemundy7611 Appreciate the effort, George! I've been following LegitStreetCars for a couple years now, so I'm familiar with the efforts he undertook. I think the route he went is a touch too extreme for a daily driver unfortunately, as even he noted that shifts are a bit harsh. I'm planning to do a fluid swap and transmission controller swap sometime soon. Hopefully that will get me closer to where I think this car should be. :)
I thought I read in one of your comments you had a W220. Was that a S55 AMG? I'm struggling between 2006 E55 AMG and 06 S55 AMG I really love thE classic look of the head lights on the E5 and by reading it looks like the E55 has a little more front leg room on paper anyways. How is the front comfort in the E55 vs the S55?
I don't have an W220. But I would love to film an S55 and see how it compares with an E55 :)
beautiful car just need to keep it maintained oil atf sensors vac etc...
u still got this car.. i want it
2011 CL 63! Next
What spoiler did you buy?
Thank You Will Smith this car beautiful
FYI there was a recall on that sun roof. They fly off on the freeway. Just was annoyed I’m late 2019
Lol trying to keep that straight face when you floor it
The brakes might not feel the best but the stopping power is insane, will make your face feel like its collapsing in on itself when you slam on them.
Yup, I love the brakes. If you've driven the for any decent time, for what it is, it's amazing. The combination of what it offers is very nice.
Love high performance Cars, specially Merceders Benz alway having electrical and electronics issues. A month ago, my friend called me at night @ 9:30PM regarding his 2018 GLA won't started. I came to see if battery need jumpstart, but it wasn't the case. So we all left for home. Since the car parked at public place, so we came back later at midnight with scanner to checked if any issues popup. No issues according to scanner. There are a series of electrical circuits and connections at battery terminal. While my friend tried to start, but its won't, so I told him keep pushed ignition/keyless while I am tapped on all the wires and connectors, the car started. Now I knew that somethings losses. Open battery cover, and shakes connectors one more time while restarted the car, it was started okay, without shakes the cables/connectors, the car won't started. This time one by one to see wich connector/cable caused the problem. GLA 350 have circuits board at battery terminals. There are screws loses, so I sockets tights all screws, then restarted without any problem.
Prefer the looks of the W211 over the CLS. The CLS may have some cool features like its coupe esque window styles but the E-Class just feels more pleasing to my eyes. Btw I just subscribed. Hardly could I find reviews of the E55 nowadays 😉.
I have an e55 stock and 2 weeks ago did a couple pulls against a m5 v10 manuel cars are pretty close but e55 is littebit faster bot not much
I brought my E55 AMG in back a few months ago, came with 600bhp 😁 straight through pipe (god of thunder) luckily enough the previous owner carbon the horrible wood, totally agree with the steering wheel definitely needs to be changed my least favourite part.
A 6 speed would’ve been nicer for motorway cruising speed than a 5
Is it worth the price? And how much u spend on it yearly?
@@requiem2074 not a great deal, normal servicing is no different than any other car. I guess you’ll spend more on engine oil 9 Litres & 16 spark plugs. I estimate around £140 ish on servicing materials as I always wait for the sales.
Where do you bring it too? And you're saying they fake carbon over the dark maple wood that comes on the car ?
@@ahemgee9542 I do the work myself it’s all easy work, the only thing that takes awhile is replacing the 16 spark plugs. The trim is was entirely replaced and looks so nice 👌 never really cared for wood trim.
Very nice car. Daimler is looking to squeeze every bit of money from the AMG badging, slapping it on every category of car that it makes. I see DB running the risk of diluting AMG, making it not so special in the long run.
I don't know if it makes sense, but the E55 AMG (which I recently bought, so now these videos are getting pushed left right and center to me) Is the most classicly modern looking car for mercedes.
these engines with the abc suspension are the best vehicles ever
The E55 doesn't have ABC suspension, it has Airmatic.
Active body control and airmatic same thing. I own an s55
@@camokiller56 LOL You better learn your own car then because the two systems are completely different. The fact that Mercedes trade marked two different names tells you that they are different. Active Body Control is hydraulic suspension. The car uses struts which are filled with hydraulic fluid pumped into them by a hydraulic pump and a computer which determines how much fluid to pump into them as you drive, hence "active suspension". Airmatic on the other hand, uses air springs which are obviously filled with air. They can raise and lower the vehicle to maintain a certain height level but suspension is not active, it is much simpler than ABC and completely different.
Yung Marco Not even close to the same thing. ABC has horrendous reliability and requires lots of maintenance and expensive and for the most part unavoidable repairs. I’m in several MB groups and quite a few people end up selling their cars because of ABC.
Preach boys preach
An E55 just sounds right, if it s really warm (like 50km on Autobahn with 160km/h plus and hard accelerations up to that speed) than it is really loud bangy and powerfull
this makes me miss vancouver lol
haha its nice during the summer, but its raining like 24/7 right now...
320 on the dash what year is it
Man, give me that car. I have the same exact w211 body style but just E500. I love this fricking car I can't imagine having that AMG version especially with the black interior I have the light gray. Car rides like a dream, mine is also 2003. They look better than the new bubble shape car. Timeless beauty
E500 is an excellent ride, glad to hear you're loving it!
Wait, is the E55 tuned lower than the S55? I thought all M113ks were roughly the same (with power variance due to being hand-built) but the official numbers for my S55 AMG are 495hp/505tq.
Thats right, not all M113k's are tuned the same. Depends on the car. For instance, the SL55 has roughly 495 hp/517 tq since it has a shorter exhaust.
Nice vehicle. Always liked this
Body style. The steering wheel is not my favorite. Otherwise I really want one.
777jones I’ve seen someone replace it with an slk63 amg black series steering wheel I’m assuming of the following years. Bigger paddles and better shape if I remember correctly. Idk how hard they are to find or if there’s other alternatives but when I pick my 2004 e55 AMG up soon, I’ll look more into it!
theres one near me with 76k miles and its only 14k.... im thinking of selling my c300 really soon for it
Im on the same boat lol i needa get rid of my c300
Those wheels are stunning! What wheels are those?
Never mind, watched the rest of the video and found out lol
@@AmilThaha what are they ?
I really want to get a 211 E55 but my facelift 07 E550 Non Amg is already fast af on the streets already and amazed on how serene this car is and I compare the build quality compared to my uncle 211 05 E320 night and day difference on the facelift and early years.
The non AMG V8 of the W211 series are the bang for the buck V8 sedans gotta love massive deprecation.
Very true. You can beat a Lamborghini Gallardo from 0-60, and pay a fraction of the cost!
Does it overheat in hot weather? like middle east hot days of summer
As long as the cooling system is in order, it shouldn't overheat, but it will definetly heat soak.
I agree with you on most things but I don’t think the W211 is that well built unlike say the W124 which is like driving a bank vault around, I have the updated 08 W211, you should buy the updated steering wheel off a E350 Sports model that has the paddle shifts as a standard updated wheel won’t take the paddle shifts also they are black not silver on the updated cars but you can buy the silver paddle shifts and add them so it looks exactly like the E55 or E63 update wheel. Greetings from Australia, enjoy. Btw, SBC is now warranted by Mercedes in the states for 25 years due to all the problems with it and a class action, so any issues with SBC call Benz.
The worst part about the w211 is when the air suspension fails😂 I have a black E500 with brabus wheels and kit, she’s just so sexy I think it looks better than my silver C63 w204
i wonder how cool you can get with CLS which came after iT .. its the right step up 😉
The CLS AMG's are gorgeous cars, you can't beat its speed and looks.
The thing is first CLS modals has the same engine as E55 witch get change in E63
(W219 CLS-Class was based in W211 E-Class)
Personally if i would have E55 for five years i'll flip it for the W219 CLS63 or CLS55
🙌 etcher way both sharply gougers
What mod in your opinion will make CLS55 nice and sharp looking as your car
hmm tough to say. It really depends on the colour of the CLS. You can add exterior mods to any CLS 55, but I think a black car makes it blend together the best. Adding something like a carbon fiber diffuser and a slight carbon fiber lip makes it sharper. Maybe some different wheels, front grill, exhaust tips etc. Truthfully, the CLS looks amazing in its stock form.
where i can buy this super car
btw this is my dream car.
I drive a e350 but ima get that soon fasho
jatin kumar its crazy bro its an e63 20 mins from me and i wanna trade it in but i kinda dont want too
Antonio Uzzle that shit clean af bro
Do you have the stock exhaust on?
as far as I know, it looks stock to me
Is this a reliable car? How’s the gas?
You are blessed with the chance to try and review this iconic piece of history and in the first 4 minutes of video there is no, and I mean zero, engine noise?? Then you proceed with revving it with no engine load and go on blabbering about the car. For what concerns me, you deserve to drive a soul-less 3 cylinder diesel modern care. Otherwise, Nice video quality and Peace man 👌
I'm sorry the exhaust clips weren't to your liking. The car has a rev limiter and the go pro exhaust footage didn't do a very good job either... If you want to see other V8 exhaust goodness, take a look at our P31 C63 AMG Review and exhaust videos, Jeep Trackhawk, Ford GT rev battle, and also Porsche vs C63 Rev battle. Thanks for watching.
Best 7 things you can do with this car are 1: fit a larger inter cooler for the supercharger, 2: Split the cooling system, 3: Upgrade the intercooler pump, 4: Fit a 77mm clutched pulley, 5: Fit 550cc injectors, 6: Get a tune (Eurocharged, VRP, German Muscle etc etc), 7: 1 step colder plugs. That will give you the best price to performance ratio - assuming you do the work yourself you'd be into it for about $2,000 to $2,500. I went a little further with short headers and a 92mm throttle body but really the cost of those and having them fitted was not worth the gain. Oh and get the supercharger serviced as well. Great fucking car.
How much power did you make after that?
@@jordynjackson1664 I don;t know, it has never been on a dyno but you have to think that with all those mods it's 100 or so over stock. Certainly feels way quicker.
You can get cls 63 amg for the same price you could get a nice e55 for in Finland.
63s are unreliable that’s why
Dude you gotta ditch those mufflers and straight pipe it. I miss mine ;((
yeah, she's a little quiet in stock form.
West Van Garage Great videos! Keep it up man! I’ll always watch w211 videos hahah
@Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch Straight piping ANY car is cool for the first 2 weeks and then you and the people around just get annoyed.
@Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch why ...
I am, going to buy one in 1 year but I am not sure about how often do I have du refill gas
If you drive it conservatively, you'll get about 20mpg. Its a supercharged v8 so your fuel economy won't be the best.
@@WestVanGarage I know but there way more up then down sides to buy this classic Mercedes. for an 2004 car an absolut Beaty :)
Still can’t find these wheels lol. Are these Mercedes wheels or aftermarket?
aftermarket, niche m113 I believe?
Do an SL65!!!!!!!
I think the W211 is the best looking E class
Omg where can I get those wheels?? I need them on my E63 😳😳
W211 E63 Wheels are really nice, I'd love a set :)
West Van Garage Where did you get the Mercedes star center caps for the Niche wheels?
Who started the bubble eye look benz or lexus
Lexus
Whats Better E55 Or E63
put the original rims back on it, it'll ride better.
beautiful car, and great review.
If you plan on adding a crankshaft pulley, don’t. I did and it sheered my key way on my crankshaft.... not cheap
sorry to hear about that, hopefully your E55 is still treating you well?
West Van Garage I love the car, just wish it wasn’t giving me so many problems
@@nathansong1 sounds like you'll be selling it soon
Add a pulley and a tune(;
Mr Sanchez805 And an upgraded coolant pump like the Bosch 010 or ideally the CWA100. These cars heatsoak BADLY even while stock. If I could do it over again I would’ve upgraded cooling long before pulley/tune/long tubes.
Also the exhaust tips are way better then the AMG tips that are squared off stupid how they put round tips on the watered down AMG models the 43s
Edit: There are 2 companies that offer a tune and or shift kit that sharpens and makes the shifts faster
Mr. TAMW I took out E55 from a dig two days ago in my GLC43 AMG SUV 😂. I had him by. 2 cars from dead stop to 75mph. He was really mad ... just don’t know why people get but hut when they lose a race.
John Paul that’s hard to believe
In the future
Amazing car, I am eyeing a well maintained 2004 for $18k. Prices are going up.
That's too high tbh bro look for 10k to 14k
Look at 07-09 facelift E550
@@iheartgs400 why
Mr. TAMW overall better build quality the best of 211’s quality control wise was facelifted versions of car, no sbc as well.
Rhanier Santiago I own both an E55 and E550 and agree with your statement. The M273 in the E550 makes PLENTY of power for the buck you can get one for. Not having SBC or the auxiliary/secondary battery is nice too. Part of me feels like selling the E55 and getting a W211 E63..
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for the car?
I don't want to give the exact figure out, but I paid pretty much market value given the mileage and condition.
@@WestVanGarage I hope you not saying cause you feel ashamed as guys we pay for what we want