If you want a traditional foreign wife, move to a traditional foreign country. Had an uncle who moved to the Philippines in his 60s. Married a woman in her early 30s. Never came back.
@Bombsquadcomedyshow My point is she likely married him cuz he had a bunch of money, and the fact that he has a 1st world citizenship was another thing. If things ever got bad they could both leave Philippines. I live in a 1st world country myself and seen this a lot, most of the women are loyal yes but they probably married cuz of the money and to escape poverty, most the filipino women I know are 10-20 years younger than their husbands, a few have lost their husbands, some are in nursing homes.
@olmostgudinaf8100 Thought never occured to him? Does the part where he rants about American women being golddiggers not make it clear that he's pretty aware of the possibility, but he just thought hoes on the other side of the world wouldn't be hoes?
In the Philippines, there's this thing that's mentioned in old 2000s comedies that is a joke but is also pretty real. M4, short for 'Matandang Mayaman Madaling Mamatay' literally translates to 'Old, Rich, and Close to Death' and is often the punchline to women saying they're dating an American. Given how life is here I cannot fully blame them.
I can blame them, exploiting men is women's only game and as men we need to stop it, protect ourselves and restrict their ability to exploit and manipulate men so horribly.
A couple of people I knew from school married to American men (Filipinas) and they seemed to do be doing well. One was married to a doctor, but she seemed genuinely in love with the guy even if he was 25+ years older. Another married an American soldier. Have a few kids. Seems happy, posts about their life a lot. 12 yrs now, still havent broken up.
Yeahhhh, I learn from second hand experience that the moment money is involved in the relationship, it is never a good sign. Girls indulging in accepting and spending their guys/BFs/Fiancee/Husbands money. And Guys over their head thinking by giving them money will make them happier, not thinking if they're simply using them or being the catalyst for their change to gold diggers. The role can be reversed too. The point is the moment money is introduced into the relationship, it will never be the same.
Right, especially those who want or can care about status and money. On top we do not know what drove the divorce between OP parents, if there were a bunch of smaller issues, on top of the change or perhaps long done, dude had no real chance.
@@tonym.8069 It pretty much, seems like the husband should have connected the dots "Why a young lady be with an old man" and "She's awfully asking for a lot of allowance" Honestly, he is delusional. He could have played a short or a long game by not abiding to her every wish for money
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"19! You monster, she's just a child!" I agree, women under 35 shouldn't be allowed to vote. They can't make decisions like adults...
I used to believe men weren't full adults til the age of 25 and thought this applied to women as well. After being on the internet for too long and reading your comment, I'm starting to agree with you on the women.
Both carry the same meaning honestly. Either way it could mean that he's only one year older than anon. Except for the fact that he's anon's dad obviously. Neither statement really emphasises the age difference on their own.
@ They don't carry the same meaning, because the story is about anon's dad. We know the dad is not 1 year older than his child. The first statement isn't as good because she could be 36, and it would still stand. The other one tells you that she's younger than her husband's child.
"Learned a hard lesson about trust and power imbalances" And yet, he is the one that was in love, blind and got taken advantage off. Age can be a power imbalance, however more often than not women's sexuality is far more powerful than a few years of no significant experience that a man may have.
You know in Singapore, foreign spouse cannot get the version of 'green card' aka citizenship/permanent resident until they give birth to children. And only if the children are usually become citizens. So technically they cannot really really get divorced. Even my own grandma who was here just shortly after WW2 didn't even got citizenship after having 8 children and many grandchildren and all males conscripted. This ensure foreign spouse like those from Philippines etc don't pull this sort scheming ideas
@@alidaraie i mean i can do what i want, when i want. i don't have anyone spending all my money and nagging me. if i get lonely i can always go to a massage parlor.
Funny enough I have similar story about my own father. Terrible guy. And when I was around 13 he had the same conversation with me, that American women are materialistic and selfish. I didn’t quite agree. Anyways he had 3 wives from the Philippines and got divorced from all of them lmao. Meanwhile I’m now 33, my only wife I’ve been with for 8 years now, have 3 kids, and a great life. My wife is exactly what he wishes a woman would be for him, except for he doesn’t understand how to reciprocate love so he will never find it. Sad story really. Bad guy.
I am still convinced that relying on other human beings (human beings are the same creature that managed to hunt mammoths despite those animals weighing tens of times more) to be happy is an incredibly bad mistake a person could make. Talking to people is fine, but happiness has to come from within, from hobbies, from culture, or any other form of interest really. My humble opinion, of course.
I agree, because even if it's perfect or imperfect relationships in your life, at the end of the day you are the maker of a lot of your anger, sorrow, and joy. The dude did not work on himself after the divorce, viewed relationships as a kinda status thing, and instead of trusting his kids gut he was rushing things and being questionable because was so desperate to be loved got hurt again. Hopefully this time he did learn his lesson, and nips things in the bud sooner. I get the dating market here can be quite bad, but from what it sounded like both how he carry himself and his relationships, something is off with him too.
Hobbies fade to dust just like everything else. People are the only thing that matters. Don't be afraid, don't despair. Grab that bull by the horns and hang on.
Say that out loud and you can expect all the "queens" and their simps to tell you that's incel mentality. Because apparently not putting someone else on a pedestal and making your whole life about them makes you heartless...
@@lithuaniaballNo offense, but I have plenty of hobbies that have outlasted most people's marriages, let alone other relationships. And even those that do fade, you can always pick them back up when you're in the mood. Try and do that with one of your exes and tell me how it goes, lmao.
@adamjutras7024 nothing wrong with an emotional reaction. If you were in any way in touch with your emotions you would feel the same way. Someone who doesn't have an emotional reaction to such an age gap are the people you should watch out for. Relationships like those are based on power and insecurity.
@@TheBontekraai no because it's none of my business what ADULTS do. It's the people that let there emotions control them that you have to watch out for. They're the ones that claim to know what's best for everyone else. They are wannabe dictators.
If (big if) you can afford it. A good rule of thumb is, if after the first divorce you end up with less savings than when you started, you can't afford it.
The thing about dating in the Philippines and Thailand is that it's not a secret cheat code. Women are definitely nicer and more traditional, but they're still human. You still need to be attractive. For a person to stay with you they need to feel proud that they're with you.
Yes and no. You can find much more feminine, loyal and traditional women outside the western hemisphere, but that is not a given. If you go to the large tourist hotspots and don't know the local language, and especially if you lead with money (show signs that you are willing to throw cash to impress women), you will only draw the attention of 'westernized' people in the first place, leading to the exact same issues that stem from that mentality and worldview - just in a different place.
@@baraka629 I went to a foreign country in the southern hemisphere and that's where I met my fiancee. There's some girly femininity, but she's pretty tomboyish, very independent, etc. Not at all like what passport bros claim women from poorer countries to be like. We have about the same amount of money, because she's been the primary money maker in her family for around 10 years following her dad's early death.
@someguy6968 This. Heard too many stories of westernized foreign women that then eventually do the things that western women do to guys like him. Hope it works out for the dad but I'll give it a few years before the same familiar problems rear it's head.
Naw fam. West or east, they’re all basically the same. Part of the reason is social media. The other part is the F movement, which I won’t say because for some inconceivable reason, Google keeps shadow-banning my comments mentioning that movement.
If you ever want to find a wife abroad, find one and stay there! Or, if you plan on coming back, don't tell them that! Act like you plan to stay over there for the rest of your life and wait a good 3-4 years to see if she really loves you (i think that's enough time). Then you'd be able to surprise her by moving back.
More traditional can just mean more focused on resources and exploiting those resources. So really women everywhere need to be vetted heavily, have no financial investment beyond taking care of the family you create together, and you should definitely get a paternity test with or without the woman's consent for any children you are being held responsible for.
if you decide to go the passport bro route, dont get into serious relationships with foreign chicks. It's hard enough for locals to navigate the minefield. Imagine you as a foreigner who has no clue about the culture and how to identify red flags, It'll end up as a disaster. it's best to just tap and gap as a passport bro or just dont do it at all and find girls in your own country.
If you get married and it doesnt work out, leave it at that. Keep dating apps for the occasional hook up, but for the most part, just enjoy your freedom. No woman will ever be worth your time or energy to try marriage a second time.
That advice is scientifically incorrect, freedom doesn't bring happiness but being married with kids does, get a ridiculous prenup, if you initiate divorce you lose the kids, if either party cheats there's a large financial burden etc. make divorce bad for both people and it likely won't happen.
@@testingmysoup5678You realise that divorce is highly likely and men who are divorced are 10 times more likely to end their own life, this can increase if children are involved and withheld by the mother due to their power in the family court system. So basically you're completely wrong, marriage has the capability to completely end a man's life through sheer emotional and financial trauma
Age wasnt the problem here. She despite being 3 decades younger used, manipulated and betrayed him for years to get countless “gifts”, half his money and citizenship in a first world country on his expense. She is not the victim, he is.
@@anidiot4243 Sure there's a problem with the age gap too, but what's even worse was that she KNOWS what she's doing. She knew that the dad was smitten with her and instead of rejecting him like any normal person would do because of the huuuge age gap, she decided to take advantage of his feelings. She knew what she was doing to the point she agreed to marry him and kept draining his bank account. She doesn't care about the age gap, she only cares about the money the moment she meets the dad.
@@minecraftgravityguy I see no victims. Just some guy with a midlife crisis who played stupid games and won stupid prizes and a hoe who got him with the oldest trick in the book.
In what world would a 19 year old date a man in his 50s other than for money? How did he not see this coming? He used her just as much as she used him.
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If you want a traditional foreign wife, move to a traditional foreign country. Had an uncle who moved to the Philippines in his 60s. Married a woman in her early 30s. Never came back.
It is still the same thing, she married him cuz hes from a first world country with a whole bunch of money.
@lawsen3719 but she didn't take his money and leave. He bought her family a bag of rice every month, and they all loved him.
@Bombsquadcomedyshow My point is she likely married him cuz he had a bunch of money, and the fact that he has a 1st world citizenship was another thing. If things ever got bad they could both leave Philippines.
I live in a 1st world country myself and seen this a lot, most of the women are loyal yes but they probably married cuz of the money and to escape poverty, most the filipino women I know are 10-20 years younger than their husbands, a few have lost their husbands, some are in nursing homes.
@lawsen3719 I don't see anything wrong with that. Thinking they love you for your personality is what naive Western women think.
@@lawsen3719 when he goes to her country he still has all the leverage though, so the story goes a whole different way.
Dude just went from being a domestic ATM to an international one and wondered why nothing changed? Must be hard being that dumb...
You call it dumb, but that's how good men are. They don't have it in them to use people like that. The thought never occurs to them.
@olmostgudinaf8100 Thought never occured to him? Does the part where he rants about American women being golddiggers not make it clear that he's pretty aware of the possibility, but he just thought hoes on the other side of the world wouldn't be hoes?
@@virgilthemob1242 Exactly. He misread the whole situation and put down his first bad experience to the wrong cause.
In the Philippines, there's this thing that's mentioned in old 2000s comedies that is a joke but is also pretty real. M4, short for 'Matandang Mayaman Madaling Mamatay' literally translates to 'Old, Rich, and Close to Death' and is often the punchline to women saying they're dating an American. Given how life is here I cannot fully blame them.
Poor people are not poor because some rich took their money they are poor because they deserve it because of who they are inside
@@Maximus-ke7cdokay buddy that's enough internet for you today
I can blame them, exploiting men is women's only game and as men we need to stop it, protect ourselves and restrict their ability to exploit and manipulate men so horribly.
A couple of people I knew from school married to American men (Filipinas) and they seemed to do be doing well. One was married to a doctor, but she seemed genuinely in love with the guy even if he was 25+ years older. Another married an American soldier. Have a few kids. Seems happy, posts about their life a lot. 12 yrs now, still havent broken up.
You Filipina?
Yea, op's father picked a bad one.
Probably from the main city and not from the provinces.
Yeah not nearly all of them do this. Gotta be careful for the ones that do though.
Yeahhhh,
I learn from second hand experience that the moment money is involved in the relationship, it is never a good sign.
Girls indulging in accepting and spending their guys/BFs/Fiancee/Husbands money.
And Guys over their head thinking by giving them money will make them happier, not thinking if they're simply using them or being the catalyst for their change to gold diggers.
The role can be reversed too. The point is the moment money is introduced into the relationship, it will never be the same.
Right, especially those who want or can care about status and money. On top we do not know what drove the divorce between OP parents, if there were a bunch of smaller issues, on top of the change or perhaps long done, dude had no real chance.
@@tonym.8069
It pretty much, seems like the husband should have connected the dots "Why a young lady be with an old man" and "She's awfully asking for a lot of allowance"
Honestly, he is delusional.
He could have played a short or a long game by not abiding to her every wish for money
"19! You monster, she's just a child!"
I agree, women under 35 shouldn't be allowed to vote. They can't make decisions like adults...
Women under 70 and over 65 shouldn't be allowed to vote.
I used to believe men weren't full adults til the age of 25 and thought this applied to women as well. After being on the internet for too long and reading your comment, I'm starting to agree with you on the women.
Women shouldn't be allowed to vote, period.
I doubt there is EVER an age where the average w can responsibly vote.
But when some 304 50yo celebrity dates a 23 yo dude it's empowering and you see the women cheering and clapping like seals.
"I'm 23 and closer to her age than he is"
A better version would be "I'm 23 and closer to his age than she is"
took me 15 seconds but you are correct lol
The daughter has daddy issues
Both carry the same meaning honestly. Either way it could mean that he's only one year older than anon. Except for the fact that he's anon's dad obviously. Neither statement really emphasises the age difference on their own.
I don’t get it
@ They don't carry the same meaning, because the story is about anon's dad. We know the dad is not 1 year older than his child.
The first statement isn't as good because she could be 36, and it would still stand. The other one tells you that she's younger than her husband's child.
"Learned a hard lesson about trust and power imbalances"
And yet, he is the one that was in love, blind and got taken advantage off. Age can be a power imbalance, however more often than not women's sexuality is far more powerful than a few years of no significant experience that a man may have.
Love is so useful to people without any.
That is true no matter how you read it. Deep.
Love isn't real everything is transactional
You know in Singapore, foreign spouse cannot get the version of 'green card' aka citizenship/permanent resident until they give birth to children.
And only if the children are usually become citizens.
So technically they cannot really really get divorced.
Even my own grandma who was here just shortly after WW2 didn't even got citizenship after having 8 children and many grandchildren and all males conscripted.
This ensure foreign spouse like those from Philippines etc don't pull this sort scheming ideas
the older i get, being single gets more preferable
I have seen old single men. It's not pretty at all
@@alidaraie i mean i can do what i want, when i want. i don't have anyone spending all my money and nagging me. if i get lonely i can always go to a massage parlor.
The son learning the wrong lessons, ready to stumble into the same traps his dad did.
As a man, I can tell you that, unless he meets a good woman around his own age, he's not recovering from this.
Women his own age are just as bad, women in general are kinda a lost cause
Funny enough I have similar story about my own father. Terrible guy. And when I was around 13 he had the same conversation with me, that American women are materialistic and selfish. I didn’t quite agree. Anyways he had 3 wives from the Philippines and got divorced from all of them lmao. Meanwhile I’m now 33, my only wife I’ve been with for 8 years now, have 3 kids, and a great life. My wife is exactly what he wishes a woman would be for him, except for he doesn’t understand how to reciprocate love so he will never find it. Sad story really. Bad guy.
He made the mistake of bringing her back to the first world
I am still convinced that relying on other human beings (human beings are the same creature that managed to hunt mammoths despite those animals weighing tens of times more) to be happy is an incredibly bad mistake a person could make.
Talking to people is fine, but happiness has to come from within, from hobbies, from culture, or any other form of interest really.
My humble opinion, of course.
I agree, because even if it's perfect or imperfect relationships in your life, at the end of the day you are the maker of a lot of your anger, sorrow, and joy. The dude did not work on himself after the divorce, viewed relationships as a kinda status thing, and instead of trusting his kids gut he was rushing things and being questionable because was so desperate to be loved got hurt again. Hopefully this time he did learn his lesson, and nips things in the bud sooner. I get the dating market here can be quite bad, but from what it sounded like both how he carry himself and his relationships, something is off with him too.
Hobbies fade to dust just like everything else. People are the only thing that matters. Don't be afraid, don't despair. Grab that bull by the horns and hang on.
Say that out loud and you can expect all the "queens" and their simps to tell you that's incel mentality. Because apparently not putting someone else on a pedestal and making your whole life about them makes you heartless...
@@lithuaniaballNo offense, but I have plenty of hobbies that have outlasted most people's marriages, let alone other relationships. And even those that do fade, you can always pick them back up when you're in the mood. Try and do that with one of your exes and tell me how it goes, lmao.
@@virgilthemob1242 people are social creatures for a reason. Living just to exist is sickness. It's not about you, it's about them. Always has been.
The Philippino gal be like: "Yeah I'm the one" (right now)
Age wasn't the issue.
19 and 50 definitely is an issue
@@TheBontekraai no it's not. You're just having a knee-jerk emotional reaction.
@adamjutras7024 nothing wrong with an emotional reaction. If you were in any way in touch with your emotions you would feel the same way.
Someone who doesn't have an emotional reaction to such an age gap are the people you should watch out for.
Relationships like those are based on power and insecurity.
@@TheBontekraai no because it's none of my business what ADULTS do.
It's the people that let there emotions control them that you have to watch out for. They're the ones that claim to know what's best for everyone else. They are wannabe dictators.
@@TheBontekraai the emotional types are also the ones that pew pew schools.
Happens all the time. And there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Trump seems to be trying...
Dad needs to just realize what it is and keep recycling the process. He can keep a 19 year old hole until the day he dies.
Dude you need to be locked up
@@GreenSpacebugdon't hate the player, hate the game
If (big if) you can afford it. A good rule of thumb is, if after the first divorce you end up with less savings than when you started, you can't afford it.
@@GreenSpacebug 19 year old is an adult what is up with all of you weirdo nowadays.
You see children everywhere
Can his wallet handle a third woman?
i mean, dad's plan was good on paper, just doesn't apply to girls 30 years younger
It can, but as a man you still need to be attractive. Women, regardless of age want to feel proud of the man they're with.
Sad to hear this.
All he wanted was to be loved.
It's awful. Hope he recovers from that.
Worth it
Honestly the primary mistake was just getting married.
This sounds like almost every such 'traditional Asian bride' that I actually know of...so much for the passport bros solution.
I mean... turned out his scepticism about women was true
The thing about dating in the Philippines and Thailand is that it's not a secret cheat code. Women are definitely nicer and more traditional, but they're still human. You still need to be attractive. For a person to stay with you they need to feel proud that they're with you.
Dad had correct idea
Yes and no. You can find much more feminine, loyal and traditional women outside the western hemisphere, but that is not a given. If you go to the large tourist hotspots and don't know the local language, and especially if you lead with money (show signs that you are willing to throw cash to impress women), you will only draw the attention of 'westernized' people in the first place, leading to the exact same issues that stem from that mentality and worldview - just in a different place.
@@baraka629 I went to a foreign country in the southern hemisphere and that's where I met my fiancee. There's some girly femininity, but she's pretty tomboyish, very independent, etc. Not at all like what passport bros claim women from poorer countries to be like. We have about the same amount of money, because she's been the primary money maker in her family for around 10 years following her dad's early death.
He was right to go overseas. He was wrong to bring her back.
@someguy6968 This. Heard too many stories of westernized foreign women that then eventually do the things that western women do to guys like him. Hope it works out for the dad but I'll give it a few years before the same familiar problems rear it's head.
Naw fam. West or east, they’re all basically the same. Part of the reason is social media. The other part is the F movement, which I won’t say because for some inconceivable reason, Google keeps shadow-banning my comments mentioning that movement.
If you ever want to find a wife abroad, find one and stay there! Or, if you plan on coming back, don't tell them that! Act like you plan to stay over there for the rest of your life and wait a good 3-4 years to see if she really loves you (i think that's enough time). Then you'd be able to surprise her by moving back.
This is fiction…. Prolly from an Passport Sis that came home empty handed. If this was a male it would have read like a warning.
"Women overseas are more traditional" there but not one the whom marry foreigners with 20 years age gap
More traditional can just mean more focused on resources and exploiting those resources. So really women everywhere need to be vetted heavily, have no financial investment beyond taking care of the family you create together, and you should definitely get a paternity test with or without the woman's consent for any children you are being held responsible for.
if you decide to go the passport bro route, dont get into serious relationships with foreign chicks. It's hard enough for locals to navigate the minefield. Imagine you as a foreigner who has no clue about the culture and how to identify red flags, It'll end up as a disaster. it's best to just tap and gap as a passport bro or just dont do it at all and find girls in your own country.
what did he expect? hes 50. shes 19.
Age is not the issue. Mentality is.
Poor guy got ruined by TWO women.
"be me" why ?
Dumb 4chan meme
God damn it, but really can't blame dad though
yeah he probably had good sex with a young hottie for a few years
Shit son still blames his dad
If you get married and it doesnt work out, leave it at that. Keep dating apps for the occasional hook up, but for the most part, just enjoy your freedom. No woman will ever be worth your time or energy to try marriage a second time.
Damn right
That advice is scientifically incorrect, freedom doesn't bring happiness but being married with kids does, get a ridiculous prenup, if you initiate divorce you lose the kids, if either party cheats there's a large financial burden etc. make divorce bad for both people and it likely won't happen.
@@testingmysoup5678 Prenups are ineffective, especially when she claims that she was “in distress” and was “forced to write it”.
@@testingmysoup5678You realise that divorce is highly likely and men who are divorced are 10 times more likely to end their own life, this can increase if children are involved and withheld by the mother due to their power in the family court system.
So basically you're completely wrong, marriage has the capability to completely end a man's life through sheer emotional and financial trauma
@@testingmysoup5678Prenups are largely known to be thrown out, especially if the judge decides that the woman deserves it to be thrown out.
You know this was written by some 30+ year old woman
Some of yall are unhinged to the point that if age of consent was 15 yall wouldnt mind a 50 year old dating a 15 year old.
I agree, 19 year old girls shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Age wasnt the problem here. She despite being 3 decades younger used, manipulated and betrayed him for years to get countless “gifts”, half his money and citizenship in a first world country on his expense. She is not the victim, he is.
@@minecraftgravityguy that doesnt make it right to date a literal child.
@@anidiot4243 Sure there's a problem with the age gap too, but what's even worse was that she KNOWS what she's doing. She knew that the dad was smitten with her and instead of rejecting him like any normal person would do because of the huuuge age gap, she decided to take advantage of his feelings. She knew what she was doing to the point she agreed to marry him and kept draining his bank account. She doesn't care about the age gap, she only cares about the money the moment she meets the dad.
@@minecraftgravityguy I see no victims. Just some guy with a midlife crisis who played stupid games and won stupid prizes and a hoe who got him with the oldest trick in the book.
Buddy, you used her too. She was 19.
It's a common problem.
Dad learning the hard way that women will be women regardless of the country.
In what world would a 19 year old date a man in his 50s other than for money? How did he not see this coming? He used her just as much as she used him.
@@hailey9117 My point exactly.
Send whatever they get to da Philippines
nice try to try to keep men in the country...
Trust no vvomen
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Fake. Because Filipino women left him and used him. No possible IRL