Traction control should have been turned off, I own one and it is even mentioned in the user manual that you need to turn TC off in difficult 4x4 situations. Car is great, if the driver knows how to operate it.
@@squidproquo2241 yes, because we all go in eco mode on a rocky trail, right? and we all push the pedal to the floor when the wheels are hanging on a trail full of sharp rocks, right? legitimate off road driver right there....not. we can also see that you're not an off roader yourself either :)) and don't get me wrong, i'm not a tucson fanboy, but this "offroad" review is terrible. there's a better comparison out there if you want to see off road that isn't done by people with no clue on how to do it....cheers.
@@slayer0390 "yes, because we all go in eco mode on a rocky trail, right?" We all, who? "and we all push the pedal to the floor when the wheels are hanging on a trail full of sharp rocks, right?" Do we? "legitimate off road driver right there....not." What are you smoking? "we can also see that you're not an off roader yourself either :))" Congratulations, you don't miss anything. "and don't get me wrong, i'm not a tucson fanboy, but this "offroad" review is terrible." You are an idiot, and this is not an off road review. This is a review about the AWD to have an idea about its off road capability. "there's a better comparison out there if you want to see off road that isn't done by people with no clue on how to do it" I don't need to, because, this review gives me idea about what a piece of crap this Kourean junk is. "cheers." LOL! Learn to read, listen and understand first, Ciao!
@@slayer0390 "wow, i've read through your reply and i can't stop wondering how hard it must be to be this stupid in 2021 xD" I am stupid, yet you are the one who wrote nothing, but a complete paragraph of ad hominem remarks. Can you even bring two ideas together, better yet, can you even write down one remark with content, at all?
I just picked up this beauty from dealer yesterday. After 100km i can to say it is perfect. I am very happy. Ventilated seat are awesome and very comfortable. I love this car. Many greetings from 🇸🇰
Agree, this looks like a review made by a very bias (corrected) person, what happened here?, try sport mode, snow mode, traction control off and diff lock. Very disappointed with this mediocre review!
@@EfraKrajo I don’t think we need to call him names. I normally enjoy his videos which is why I subscribed. I was just wondering why he didn’t try the different modes.
Maybe it was his first experience with offroad. It looks like. He didn't use basic options for this situation. Lock differential, set 1st gear and gently operate accelerator. Gently.
See his hand going to the control before the roof opens fully. He probably saw the Starbucks on the roof and stopped the sun roof from opening fully and closing it.
A more common scenario for people who will use this vehicle for vacations, getaways to the mountains, etc might be how it performs on "washboard" roads. We often have to go fairly long distances on these county or state maintained roads and the ride can make or break a trip. Something to consider in future reviews, maybe.
@@BoopSnoot Its not a DTC its a standard torque converter automatic so not mich to overheat there… i think its a issues with the traction control I own the PHEV which comes with three dedicated modes for mud, sand and snow (Not tested them yet because im in the break in period)
@@RiasatAbir I’ve mounted my Skidplates a few days ago snd then tested the car in a (light) off-road-environment and it did pretty well! The specs of my car for comparison; PHEV (265hp) Adaptive suspension Michelin pilot alpine 5 SUV in 235/55R19 103V Sheriff skid plates, 2mm steel coated with upol Raptor and much rust protection (they are a nightmare to install but fit really well… definitely a recommendation!) On non paved side roads this car is really quick without rattling itself to pieces. On gravel it performed equally as nice and even on wet (really wet) gras it kept on track quite well. The AWD works well, a bit FWD heavy but thats ok and the instantaneous torque from the electric motor is a big bonus in rough (ish) terrain! I’m a volunteer firefighter and needed a new car i can get on site with no matter what road (or non at all) there is… fast! This car isn’t a hardcore off road monster, no rock crawling or heavy off-road. But it’s comfy, versatile and remarkably fun to drive! As an addition; Ive formally owned a 300hp BMW e90 330XD with racing suspension and some work done so there’s some knowledge of how a car should feel when driving it hard. The Tucson isn’t a race car but if you know you rev-ranges and know how to handle it, this baby is not that slower on my handling course! And don’t listen to people wo say “that adaptative suspension isn’t worth its money”! Is changes the handling significantly if you driving aggressive and it reduces body roll to a degree ive only knew from my e90! Feel free to ask if you have further questions!
@@shivamarya5225 Yeah BUT! He did it with the Gasoline version. The Hybrid Version Has A Significant Amount More Engine Power So Its Not A True Comparison.
This has to be one of the best underrated channel's out here, and this cuv has to be one of the most underrated look I have ever seen looks so futuristic. Nice video and great job guys!!
@@squidproquo2241 look, i do not mean the car is like #1 I'm just saying is the design is to underrated compare against others out there nothing beats the look of this suv imo
Many positives. No CVT, 10/100 warranty, nice features, priced reasonably, stylish, nice infotainment. Instrument cluster is questionable. Poor off-road operation. Good review as always Ryan.
@@davidselin9860 by "pull away" if you mean drive in pure electric after startup then yes. However when the electric motor gets taxed (i.e. going up an incline too fast/fuller throttle or fast/quick acceleration) the gas motor kicks in to assist and stays on for a mile or so in case it's needed again in the short term
@@r.danielsejas215 I thought it was bias too. Seems to be against Korean cars. I mean this car went 0-60 in 7.2 seconds which is not too bad at all and he said it went a bit faster than he thought
Interesting. I've got one of these and never seen anything remotely like what you did on the rock trail (stuttering, power being cut, etc.) - granted the worst conditions mine has seen are muddy mountain dirt roads. I'm curious if this is something software related they'll be able to fix, or if it's something that changing drive modes or switching off traction control could have resolved. 99% of CUVs never even drive on dirt, let alone off-road, so I suppose it's also possible that the vehicle simply wasn't designed for it.
I'm thinking it's more software-related, or that a setting was not configured properly. I noticed in the review he failed to mention that the gauge cluster is customizable... perhaps because he didn't know that many of the vehicle's settings are in the Infotainment system and one lets you swap out the "Energy Gauge" for a traditional Tachometer and that it is configurable within each driving mode as well. There are probably many other settings he didn't attempt during this review that might have provided a different result.
@@jaginaz People were discussing this review on some car forums. From what I recall, the gist of it was that the hybrid uses a 6-speed version of the 8-speed auto found in the regular Tucson (which did quite well on this test). But unlike the 8-speed, the 6-speed doesn't have a torque converter. This means the hybrid is largely limited to the electric motor at extremely low speeds (0-5mph) where the combustion engine can't put all its power down. The guy who explained the mechanics behind why the hybrid failed this test also said the vehicle will still do very well driving in deep snow and ice, it's just that the transmission design is not suited (at all) for rock crawling.
@@normanfeliciano1089 That sounds counter-intuitive...to turn off TC in snow, since most folks would equate snow condition as where TC would be needed.
@@cpl8168 Normal snow driving you leave TC on. It’s when you need momentum or to allow wheels to spin that you turn TC off. Usually something like deep snow. This has been the case since the first application of TC. It’s job is to limit wheel spin but many severe conditions require some level of wheel spin. Understanding how your vehicles systems work can really prevent you from getting hung up when you otherwise wouldn’t be.
Ryan is one of the elite vehicle reviewers. I'm finding his off-road takes quite valuable as I look into a an SUV with decent or better off-road chops.
How not to drive uphill. All of your frustrations about cutting power, and you didn't think to turn off traction control? You didn't give the Tucson a fair run and it deserves another chance with clearer thinking and better driving. The Hyundai AWD system is much more capable than what you crippled and showed. Just look at the Santa Cruz, the Santa Fe, and the Palisade. Solid performers. Only problem was driver error testing the Tucson in this video. Sorry man, you want rave reviews then things are good, you're going to have to face the truth and be accountable when things were done poorly. Pete in AZ - KI7LIL
I bought the same vehicle 2 mo ago. Your review is excellent and gives me concern re winter driving. And like others have pointed out, it would have been helpful if you had tested: Snow Mode, Locking Differential, and Traction Control during your mountain climbing test. It would also be helpful if you did a review of a Tucson Hybrid with around 1200 mi on it. It appears several owners, including me, begin to experience engine distress when accelerating uphill while the 1.6T engine is providing power. This for me started at around 1,000 mi and it is quite noticeable. Of course, according to Hyundai, the vehicle is not throwing a fault code. This behavior was not evident at all when new. So, a long term (really a short term) review would be welcomed.
It’s really weird he didn’t try the different awd modes🤔. I mean there is a mode for snow and mud. Also why not just turn tracyion vontrol off and try it like that? Usually these are quite good reviews but that decission seems weird.
Honestly put some 17in wheels and better snow rated tires on it. The blue model has 235/65r17s. Put some falken wildpeaks on it and it will be fine under 5in of snow i think. If you need to drive in more than that you should probably look at a wilderness trim subaru, or a jeep grand cherokee. Nothing unfortunately in the price of a tucson has amazing awd to get through high snow. Usually you pay 45k or more for something that can easily get through it
@@Jay-ki7nx Yes, the issue persists. First Hyundai and the warranty is disappointing. Lifelong Toyota owner and rarely ever had to use the warranty and when I did, they always took care of their customer. Hyundai has come a long way, but just can't yet be trusted enough IMO to compete re reliability. Going to dealerships re warranty issues are painful, time-consuming, and expensive if you don't have another mode of transportation (Hyundai isn't providing a loaner).
@@bomatdaman Thanks for your response. I just put my order in for the Hybrid Limited Trim and now I am having second thoughts. Has Hyundai figured out the issue and have a solution? Not providing a loaner is unfair.
Well, I got one of these 6 weeks ago. Let's see how it does in winter when November hits. I live in Mass. So far, I've been quite pleased, especially with the mileage I've been getting.
@@tyllaevangelista1192 they’ve been out in the US for a few months now. But inventory is awful. I’ve been trying to get my hands on the hybrid SEL for a few weeks now but they get sold the same day they arrive at the dealers.
@@chikenarch I'm actually waiting for the new 2022 plug in hybrid. I have a feeling it's going to be hard to get my hands on one of those once they come out too
I’m planning on getting one, probably in the beginning of 22’ depending on supply and market conditions (in no rush). I will never be in the conditions shown and live in (mostly) dry So Calif to boot. I really want the Beige interior (better in our hot summers I think), but it is not shown as an option on Hyundai USA’s “build” site (every review I have seen with this top model “Limited” Hybrid has had the beige interior).
That AWD traction control problem exist for years for their system. I have the 2016 Tucson, when it is suffering some kind of traction issue that confuses it, it will cut off all the power control from your gas control for a sec to 3 depends. Many times I got stuck when I turn into small road with snow and the power for cut off when my rear end still on the main road. (Yes, people slam brakes behind me thinking I'm an idiot, why don't I push my car thru) Traction control off trick is kinda what fix it, but the traction control off will overhead the AWD system if you are in deeper snow that needs the power to push thru. Tucson is great car, but just their AWD is hella bad.
Always enjoy your reviews, but I will say, on the off road portion you said it mimics snow conditions yet you refused to try Snow Mode. I would say next time try it to be fair across the board.
Man, TH-cam is flooded with these car review channels that don't know what they're doing. Off roading with traction control turned on its a clear symbol of this person's inexperience; and hence, you shouldn't trust this review.
I own one and I went to test it in a very similar situation. I didn't even have to turn off traction control but just switch on the differential lock and it went up the entire trail flawlessly with scenarios where it did get stuck while having it turned off. Also didn't air down the tires or change them out. Had about 9500 miles driven on stock setup. Very poor representation of this vehicle when he doesn't operate it properly.
In other videos this car out performed the Toyota Rav-4 and other AWD vehicles in uphill climb, so i'm going to assume the issue is that you did something wrong. Like others have stated in the comments you didn't turn off Traction Control or try Snow mode. It was frustrating that you didn't try Snow mode when you specifically said this test would be similar to driving in snow and mud. Why say that and then not even try Snow mode?
Anyone at all concerned about how low the rear turn signals are located? Seems like that could become a safety issue. And why on earth did they do that ??
Questions: Was the traction control off when you went off road? Do you think the low battery had something to do with the studder? Not enough current available for the motor perhaps? Just a guess.
Traction control was left on. We leave it on for all vehicles. Hybrid should never have a battery completely go empty. I don’t think it’s related but if it is that still a problem.
@@anonymous00117 Mazda realized that was a stupid implementation and gave it a dedicated Trail button last year. Note that Mazda didn’t have other Drive modes. They only had a sport transmission mode. The Tucson has proper modes and any traction systems should be part of that. That said, We just booked a second Tucson to test out the traction off theory.
@@drivingsports I’d like to know how this compares to the Rav4 Hybrid. I know when you tested a 2019 rav4 hybrid you said that is your favorite crossover Hybrid at that time. Where are you now in you’re thinking?
This guy doesn't know what he's doing. That awd works great. While off road set it in sport, lock the awd, and turn off traction control.the htrac system works well. Guess hyundai didn't pay him enough. Cause I've driven a 2022 hybrid blue through all sorts of stuff.
Yea that really turns me off of the vehicle how it completely disregards your throttle input. If I was in deep snow, on a hill and trying to get out of the way of a truck coming or something, the last thing i’d want would my vehicle to just stop moving in the middle of the road
@@delerium2k I'm not saying you're wrong, but that just sounds so counter-intuitive. What's the technical explanation for that, since intuitively, one would think TC is for low traction situation.
@@cpl8168 in my experience TC is good for normal/high speed scenarios, and terrible in situation where you’re stuck - say for example where you need to rock the vehicle back and forth to get out of a rut. This might be because the TC computer never wants to lose traction, and if you’re stuck you sometimes need the tires to be able to spin to get out
Hybrid limited: Rear seats recline/adjust, you can change order of infotainment icons, passenger has memory seats, rear seats are also heated. You can customize the guage cluster, ventilated seats, the system will warn of red light cameras, you can disable apple/android car play, you can also set up the defogger to go on at certain conditions, the catgo space has a dual level (you can lower it and add few more inches).
@@anonymous00117 are you seriously trying to say that hyundai and Kia are just as reliable as toyota and honda??? bwahahahaha. I think you need to do better research. No one and i mean no one will agree with that statement.Toyota has been doing hybrid for years and its tried and true. Hyundai.......not so much. Fact is you don't know what you're getting with a first year model car with a new powertrain.
Problem is that I don't like the headligh location and rear turn signals,reliability, 1.6 l turbo engine, also not a fan of push button trans, seems like awd not to good and this is why I like your reviews, you give me what is important not the crap others go on and on about
I have the SEL model that has the slightly smaller screen but with some more physical switches which is nice. The one thing that I still don't understand is that the SEL and lower apparently only get wireless carplay, but the limited only gets wired. I understand if wireless is the premium optional feature, but why is wireless the only option??? Luckily I haven't had any issues with it in a while, but there were a few times where the system was completely unresponsive. Took a while to figure out that the small button on the dash could be pressed to reset the system in a few seconds, but the inconsistency of carplay integration is head scratching.
The two systems were likely designed by different teams at different times and were each affected differently by the chip shortage of the past ~2 years. This sort of oddity is becoming quite common in Ford’s tech packages too, for example.
Wonder if it would have done any differently with the throttle in sport mode? maybe not? that stinks though. My wife has a 2019 tuscon and love the thing.
Why didn’t you put the vehicle in snow mode? The AWD mapping may have allowed for more tire spin instead of no throttle/wheel spin. And you made no attempt to disengage traction control to allow for wheel spin. Amazing how when you try a Subaru you’ll try every possible setting combination but not the Hyundai. Subaru’s did the exact same thing before X mode. They would kill throttle to save the CVT from destruction.
Would have liked to have seen you try different AWD settings and disengagement of traction control. As you have done this a number of times with other vehicles doing this test.
I can't believe it's an AWD having in mind that video: th-cam.com/video/etluZrWfq-s/w-d-xo.html. Tucson hybrid won with RAV4, Ford Kuga and Seat Ateca. Best regards from Poland.
Great video! Thanks! However, no offense, your off-road driving “technique” was severely lacking. Momentum, and *never* pausing, is essential. Also, it should have been in “snow” mode.
We pause on purpose for all vehicles we test on this hill to challenge their AWD systems. With enough momentum a Camry can make it up. The point is to illustrate how and why the system works or fails. We explain this in most of the videos, but didn’t elaborate this one.
We did a follow-up video with Snow mode. Look for our Tucson GDI video. We didn’t think it would help since snow typically just cuts throttle. Should we have tried it? To be complete, yes. But I’m sure it wouldn’t have improvised the situation. The systems limitations were apparent. IIRC the MDX review the “point” of the test is elaborated on.
@@drivingsports I think the issue is that it’s just very difficult to reproduce the *exact* same scenario for each run at the hill. E.g., at 18:46 in this video, the tire clearly “hits” the “angled” edge of the large rock with the front right tire, so much so the back of the car practically lifts up in back as its forward motion is stopped by the rock. Contrast that with at 9:00 in the other “snow mode” video you mentioned above where the tire is clearly a few inches to the *right* on that same rock and where it meets less physical resistance. You seem to draw some pretty heavy conclusions, but they’re based on subtle, but significant, scenario differences. Maybe your new test track could somehow incorporate more consistency.
I guess it's cutting off power because of the hybrid system. With electric motors, the wheels can spin really fast. But should have done better with software to manage that. Really liked all the features and the looks though. Great review as always 🔥
till finally release an SUV without *that* DCT, its still meh offroad.. btw, hope you get to test the new Mitsubishi Outlander soon, cant find an offroad test for it anywhere :)
@@moonsapling No, no it doesn't. Every single video with a DCT off road is usually bad. They also overheat easily, and don't last as long as a normal auto. They were made and intended for sports cars, not normal vehicles, and it shows.
@@plainlybasic2300 it is very common here in Europe to offroad a manual high gear ratio car, and the same principles apply to DCTs. The fact that most americans including you are too used to torque converter doesnt mean DCTs are bad and only for sporty cars. If you know how to drive a manual you wont have issues with the DCT. Nobody here complains that the DCT overheats cause nobody lays on the clutch pack as if they are torque converters. DCTs require different driving habbits and its too hard for some "drivers" to aknowledge that..
And let me tell you it's fast, when you use the drive mode transfer during acceleration, it's basically instant and you feel the power hit. So satisfying ❤️❤️❤️
It’s really weird he didn’t try the different awd modes🤔. I mean there is a mode for snow and mud. Also why not just turn traction control off and try it like that? Usually these are quite good reviews but these decissions seem weird. Otherwise these are exellent reviews! One of my favourite channels👍
Ive got mine 10 day’s ago and tested it mildly because the break in period but im pretty excited to test the 0-60… the PHEV should be quite a bit spicier. The off road testing will be done soon after installing sone skid plates… i think it will perform much much better after switching off the TC and I’m curious how the dedicated off-road modes in the PHEV will perform
I love your reviews. You’re very thorough, you go through the features in detail and explain how they actually work unlike other car reviewers. You have serious quality content and you test real life situations! Big fan.
the stuttering was coming from the electric motor inbetween the internal combustion engine and the transmission, and the ICE being off at low speed. Hyundai's drivetrain layout for their hybrids is quite different from the more typical one that Toyota and Ford use, and _those_ systems are able to mix power/torque from multiple inputs more effectively. Is there a way to force the 1.6L to stay on even at low speeds? Perhaps Sport mode? Or maybe Snow/Ice or Winter (whatever they call it) for the sake of keeping the cabin heated?
That’s a four wheel drive function, these are AWD systems which do not lock (even if they say the lock the center, it’s not a real diff lock). The difference is in the differentials.
Surprised you didn’t mention the very annoying sound when the vehicle is in reverse. Is there also a review of the Lincoln Corsair Hybrid in the works?
@@drivingsports Would like to see you guys do this test with a Plug-in Hybrid Tuscon. The motors are beefed up just a bit, and the extra torque might just do enough.
If you own a 2022 Tucson Limited Hybrid, like I do, I recommend reading pages 6-27 through 6-54 of the hard copy manual in your glove compartment for a better understanding of how the ESC traction control system works. Honestly, I find it confusing and it would be great if Hyundai would put out something a little clearer in both written and video form for drivers. As another poster pointed out, if you want to do serious off-reading, get a vehicle designed for it. Most AWD vehicles that are comfortable on long road trips are not designed for anything other than very light off roading like driving on dirt roads or relatively clear of obstruction forest roads. The road bed in the video which the Tucson is having trouble with is likely to cause a flat tire and maybe even a cracked rim. Not recommended!
We got the Forester e-Boxer here in Europe. Its a mild hybrid and it barely has any power to move. 150hp from NA 2.0 Boxer with a 17hp electric motor...its barely selling here.
@@moonsapling Subaru has not released any details on it yet I think it is still model year or two away. But if you look at the turbo engine in the ascent and the outback it makes sense that you could put that in the Forester along with a hybrid powertrain
@@comiskeybum i dont think that would ever happen, its more likely that they use Toyota's power split device(with a stronger motor in it) combined with a 2.5/2.0 NA boxer. My 2 cents
Hyundai puts their more money in advertising and adding creature comforts. They are fine vehicles for the average folk that only keep it a few years. Beware there is a major recall for 2016 -2021 out... The Anti-lock Brake Hydraulic Electronic Control Unit (HECU) could corrode internally and cause an electrical short, possibly resulting in an engine compartment fire. Hyundai tell folks to park their car outside!Yikes if it took 4 years to catch that, what other things are going to pop up. That alone is a big nooope from me
The regular model (non-hybrid) has a dual-clutch transmission.. If the PHEV shares the same transmission, I'm wondering if the jerking over the rough terrain was down to the DC transmission? ... and the loss if power due to it cutting power to prevent overheating?
I bet you Hyundai has a TSB for that traction control software or at least will soon. It appears you found a couple programming issues that didn't pop up in R&D.
For consistency we keep traction control enabled on all vehicles going up that climb. Hyundai will see this review, but in the past we’ve reached out to them about issues - even holding a video for 2 weeks pending their reply - and we got nothing. Their PR department is excellent about answering questions but anything that has to go back to engineering ends up in a black hole.
We had a similar experience with the Hyundai Palisade earlier this year and the Kia Sorento a couple weeks ago. It's way too common on their latest generation vehicles to be "just this one."
@@drivingsports yeah but kia sorento felt like it was to prevent the gearbox from overheating, does this tucson have a dual clutch?? Because that may well have something to do🤔
@@drivingsports ... Its a shame about the Hyundai 😕... Was hoping it might have something similar to Mazda's CX5 - which has a feature where if the 'TCS OFF' button is selected it switches the system into a mode that simulates locking differentials via the brakes for off-road situation s..
Traction control should have been turned off, I own one and it is even mentioned in the user manual that you need to turn TC off in difficult 4x4 situations. Car is great, if the driver knows how to operate it.
The driver is car reviewer and he drives each and every car pretty much on equal terms to make a fair comparison. The car is junk on the other hand.
@@squidproquo2241 yes, because we all go in eco mode on a rocky trail, right?
and we all push the pedal to the floor when the wheels are hanging on a trail full of sharp rocks, right?
legitimate off road driver right there....not.
we can also see that you're not an off roader yourself either :))
and don't get me wrong, i'm not a tucson fanboy, but this "offroad" review is terrible.
there's a better comparison out there if you want to see off road that isn't done by people with no clue on how to do it....cheers.
@@slayer0390 "yes, because we all go in eco mode on a rocky trail, right?"
We all, who?
"and we all push the pedal to the floor when the wheels are hanging on a trail full of sharp rocks, right?"
Do we?
"legitimate off road driver right there....not."
What are you smoking?
"we can also see that you're not an off roader yourself either :))"
Congratulations, you don't miss anything.
"and don't get me wrong, i'm not a tucson fanboy, but this "offroad" review is terrible."
You are an idiot, and this is not an off road review. This is a review about the AWD to have an idea about its off road capability.
"there's a better comparison out there if you want to see off road that isn't done by people with no clue on how to do it"
I don't need to, because, this review gives me idea about what a piece of crap this Kourean junk is.
"cheers."
LOL! Learn to read, listen and understand first, Ciao!
@@slayer0390 "wow, i've read through your reply and i can't stop wondering how hard it must be to be this stupid in 2021 xD"
I am stupid, yet you are the one who wrote nothing, but a complete paragraph of ad hominem remarks. Can you even bring two ideas together, better yet, can you even write down one remark with content, at all?
@@squidproquo2241 Hyundai makes better cars than Americans. That is just bias.
I drove my 18’ AWD Tuscon in Yosemite in 3 ft of snow and it drove terrifically.
I just picked up this beauty from dealer yesterday. After 100km i can to say it is perfect. I am very happy. Ventilated seat are awesome and very comfortable. I love this car. Many greetings from 🇸🇰
Would it have made a difference if the traction control was off, snow mode engaged, and “diff lock” turned on?
Agree, this looks like a review made by a very bias (corrected) person, what happened here?, try sport mode, snow mode, traction control off and diff lock. Very disappointed with this mediocre review!
@@EfraKrajo I don’t think we need to call him names. I normally enjoy his videos which is why I subscribed. I was just wondering why he didn’t try the different modes.
@@SamuelJacob22 ok no names, bad review!
Maybe it was his first experience with offroad. It looks like. He didn't use basic options for this situation. Lock differential, set 1st gear and gently operate accelerator. Gently.
True, also the plug-in hybrid would be nice to compare :)
4:54
Am I the only one that worried about that Starbucks on the sun roof? 🤣
Me too glad you noticed, Ryan was smart not to slide it all the way to the end,we'd have messed the 2nd row😀
best place for it LOL
I’m sure it was there to show how smoothly the sunroof moves
See his hand going to the control before the roof opens fully. He probably saw the Starbucks on the roof and stopped the sun roof from opening fully and closing it.
No one’s gonna talk about how the Starbucks cup didn’t move when he checked the sunroof?!!
I don't know... But seems like we need more baby Bronco videos
I agree, another test with Bronco Sport in same place without snow
@@TheBabadush why not ? Thought Badlands was top of the line…
The Bronco is such an ugly vehicle though.
A more common scenario for people who will use this vehicle for vacations, getaways to the mountains, etc might be how it performs on "washboard" roads. We often have to go fairly long distances on these county or state maintained roads and the ride can make or break a trip. Something to consider in future reviews, maybe.
FYI - The rear seats can recline. Adds a bit more to the comfort.
wow
By how much?
I wonder if turning off traction control wouldve helped - and maybe snow mode instead of smart mode
Could be the DCT overheating too.
@@BoopSnoot
Its not a DTC its a standard torque converter automatic so not mich to overheat there… i think its a issues with the traction control
I own the PHEV which comes with three dedicated modes for mud, sand and snow
(Not tested them yet because im in the break in period)
@@Doellimann Let me know how your test goes. I have ordered a PHEV and the wait time is 8 months!
@@RiasatAbir
I’ve mounted my Skidplates a few days ago snd then tested the car in a (light) off-road-environment and it did pretty well!
The specs of my car for comparison;
PHEV (265hp)
Adaptive suspension
Michelin pilot alpine 5 SUV in 235/55R19 103V
Sheriff skid plates, 2mm steel coated with upol Raptor and much rust protection (they are a nightmare to install but fit really well… definitely a recommendation!)
On non paved side roads this car is really quick without rattling itself to pieces.
On gravel it performed equally as nice and even on wet (really wet) gras it kept on track quite well.
The AWD works well, a bit FWD heavy but thats ok and the instantaneous torque from the electric motor is a big bonus in rough (ish) terrain!
I’m a volunteer firefighter and needed a new car i can get on site with no matter what road (or non at all) there is… fast!
This car isn’t a hardcore off road monster, no rock crawling or heavy off-road. But it’s comfy, versatile and remarkably fun to drive!
As an addition;
Ive formally owned a 300hp BMW e90 330XD with racing suspension and some work done so there’s some knowledge of how a car should feel when driving it hard.
The Tucson isn’t a race car but if you know you rev-ranges and know how to handle it, this baby is not that slower on my handling course!
And don’t listen to people wo say “that adaptative suspension isn’t worth its money”!
Is changes the handling significantly if you driving aggressive and it reduces body roll to a degree ive only knew from my e90!
Feel free to ask if you have further questions!
I suggest you use snow mode instead of smart mode. That seems to be a more natural choice. Yet you never even try once.
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well he did in the next video and its still not that great.
@@shivamarya5225 Yeah BUT! He did it with the Gasoline version. The Hybrid Version Has A Significant Amount More Engine Power So Its Not A True Comparison.
for a proper review you should have presented all terrain drive modes! without all of them testing is not so relevant
Getting close to 200k subscribers. Congratulations.
This has to be one of the best underrated channel's out here, and this cuv has to be one of the most underrated look I have ever seen looks so futuristic. Nice video and great job guys!!
This is the best selling Hyundai. How It's underrated??
Underrated? He keeps on getting frustrated by the AWD performance and TC cutting power off .
You have an underrated life.
@@squidproquo2241 look, i do not mean the car is like #1 I'm just saying is the design is to underrated compare against others out there nothing beats the look of this suv imo
@@ostadfiha4225 I know but I mean underrated in other ways
Many positives. No CVT, 10/100 warranty, nice features, priced reasonably, stylish, nice infotainment. Instrument cluster is questionable. Poor off-road operation.
Good review as always Ryan.
Just purchased one last month after debating between the RAV4. Super happy with my choice so far. Thanks for the review!
Will the Plug-in Hybrid version,, start up and pull away in electric mode only? I ask because I had a sales rep tell me it will not.
@@davidselin9860 by "pull away" if you mean drive in pure electric after startup then yes. However when the electric motor gets taxed (i.e. going up an incline too fast/fuller throttle or fast/quick acceleration) the gas motor kicks in to assist and stays on for a mile or so in case it's needed again in the short term
are you still happy with the Tucson?
Are you still happy ????
operator error. read manual. tc has to be off if you want to apply power in loose condition like that
So, when you got stuck with full throttle applied, why didn't you just turn off traction control instead of backing up and "powering through" it?
because he has to make the car look bad at some point, since he's a Subaru guy
@@r.danielsejas215 Yes, I've noticed that. There's definitely some bias going on here.
@@r.danielsejas215 I thought it was bias too. Seems to be against Korean cars. I mean this car went 0-60 in 7.2 seconds which is not too bad at all and he said it went a bit faster than he thought
@@HDvids101
Most offerings in the compact segment do 8 second 0-60. RAV4 hybrid does it in 7.5 seconds. What's wrong with his comment?
@@Lucky8s It's how you say things. English has that element
Interesting. I've got one of these and never seen anything remotely like what you did on the rock trail (stuttering, power being cut, etc.) - granted the worst conditions mine has seen are muddy mountain dirt roads.
I'm curious if this is something software related they'll be able to fix, or if it's something that changing drive modes or switching off traction control could have resolved. 99% of CUVs never even drive on dirt, let alone off-road, so I suppose it's also possible that the vehicle simply wasn't designed for it.
I was wondering the same thing about the software / firmware.
True
I'm thinking it's more software-related, or that a setting was not configured properly. I noticed in the review he failed to mention that the gauge cluster is customizable... perhaps because he didn't know that many of the vehicle's settings are in the Infotainment system and one lets you swap out the "Energy Gauge" for a traditional Tachometer and that it is configurable within each driving mode as well. There are probably many other settings he didn't attempt during this review that might have provided a different result.
@@jaginaz People were discussing this review on some car forums.
From what I recall, the gist of it was that the hybrid uses a 6-speed version of the 8-speed auto found in the regular Tucson (which did quite well on this test). But unlike the 8-speed, the 6-speed doesn't have a torque converter.
This means the hybrid is largely limited to the electric motor at extremely low speeds (0-5mph) where the combustion engine can't put all its power down.
The guy who explained the mechanics behind why the hybrid failed this test also said the vehicle will still do very well driving in deep snow and ice, it's just that the transmission design is not suited (at all) for rock crawling.
I blame driver input of full throttle. Car in smart mode, driver in dumb mode.
What happens if you turn off traction control? Love your channel, and your tests are great. Surprised you didnt simply try it with TC off.
correct. Even in snow you turn off the TC. That’s how you do it
@@normanfeliciano1089 That sounds counter-intuitive...to turn off TC in snow, since most folks would equate snow condition as where TC would be needed.
@@cpl8168 Normal snow driving you leave TC on. It’s when you need momentum or to allow wheels to spin that you turn TC off. Usually something like deep snow. This has been the case since the first application of TC. It’s job is to limit wheel spin but many severe conditions require some level of wheel spin. Understanding how your vehicles systems work can really prevent you from getting hung up when you otherwise wouldn’t be.
So at the end of the day Subaru is still king of AWD for the middle class.
yup I love our crosstrek
Nah. Mazda has better AWD.
@@michaelp.3485 You are nuts of you think that.
@@michaelp.3485 Mazda is a nice looking vehicle but all wheel drive know how suburu all the way .
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Would turning off traction control make a difference?
Or using snow mode, stop full trottling to overheat the system?
Most likely it would have
Ryan is one of the elite vehicle reviewers. I'm finding his off-road takes quite valuable as I look into a an SUV with decent or better off-road chops.
How not to drive uphill. All of your frustrations about cutting power, and you didn't think to turn off traction control? You didn't give the Tucson a fair run and it deserves another chance with clearer thinking and better driving. The Hyundai AWD system is much more capable than what you crippled and showed. Just look at the Santa Cruz, the Santa Fe, and the Palisade. Solid performers. Only problem was driver error testing the Tucson in this video. Sorry man, you want rave reviews then things are good, you're going to have to face the truth and be accountable when things were done poorly. Pete in AZ - KI7LIL
I bought the same vehicle 2 mo ago. Your review is excellent and gives me concern re winter driving. And like others have pointed out, it would have been helpful if you had tested: Snow Mode, Locking Differential, and Traction Control during your mountain climbing test.
It would also be helpful if you did a review of a Tucson Hybrid with around 1200 mi on it. It appears several owners, including me, begin to experience engine distress when accelerating uphill while the 1.6T engine is providing power. This for me started at around 1,000 mi and it is quite noticeable. Of course, according to Hyundai, the vehicle is not throwing a fault code. This behavior was not evident at all when new. So, a long term (really a short term) review would be welcomed.
It’s really weird he didn’t try the different awd modes🤔. I mean there is a mode for snow and mud. Also why not just turn tracyion vontrol off and try it like that? Usually these are quite good reviews but that decission seems weird.
Honestly put some 17in wheels and better snow rated tires on it. The blue model has 235/65r17s. Put some falken wildpeaks on it and it will be fine under 5in of snow i think. If you need to drive in more than that you should probably look at a wilderness trim subaru, or a jeep grand cherokee. Nothing unfortunately in the price of a tucson has amazing awd to get through high snow. Usually you pay 45k or more for something that can easily get through it
@Bo, is the engine still having issues?
@@Jay-ki7nx Yes, the issue persists. First Hyundai and the warranty is disappointing. Lifelong Toyota owner and rarely ever had to use the warranty and when I did, they always took care of their customer. Hyundai has come a long way, but just can't yet be trusted enough IMO to compete re reliability. Going to dealerships re warranty issues are painful, time-consuming, and expensive if you don't have another mode of transportation (Hyundai isn't providing a loaner).
@@bomatdaman Thanks for your response. I just put my order in for the Hybrid Limited Trim and now I am having second thoughts. Has Hyundai figured out the issue and have a solution? Not providing a loaner is unfair.
Isn't the car play / android auto wireless?
Well, I got one of these 6 weeks ago. Let's see how it does in winter when November hits. I live in Mass. So far, I've been quite pleased, especially with the mileage I've been getting.
how did you get one already? thought they werent released yet? Cost?
@@tyllaevangelista1192 they’ve been out in the US for a few months now. But inventory is awful. I’ve been trying to get my hands on the hybrid SEL for a few weeks now but they get sold the same day they arrive at the dealers.
@@chikenarch I'm actually waiting for the new 2022 plug in hybrid. I have a feeling it's going to be hard to get my hands on one of those once they come out too
I’m planning on getting one, probably in the beginning of 22’ depending on supply and market conditions (in no rush).
I will never be in the conditions shown and live in (mostly) dry So Calif to boot. I really want the Beige interior (better in our hot summers I think), but it is not shown as an option on Hyundai USA’s “build” site (every review I have seen with this top model “Limited” Hybrid has had the beige interior).
I just put my deposit on mine ! It will be here on the 19th! I'm super excited!😍
People need to remember this car is not a Range Rover or indeed a tractor. It’s for tarmac roads with the odd bit of snow etc.
Super review!!! and the Starbucks coffee in the Roof
That AWD traction control problem exist for years for their system. I have the 2016 Tucson, when it is suffering some kind of traction issue that confuses it, it will cut off all the power control from your gas control for a sec to 3 depends. Many times I got stuck when I turn into small road with snow and the power for cut off when my rear end still on the main road. (Yes, people slam brakes behind me thinking I'm an idiot, why don't I push my car thru)
Traction control off trick is kinda what fix it, but the traction control off will overhead the AWD system if you are in deeper snow that needs the power to push thru. Tucson is great car, but just their AWD is hella bad.
Always enjoy your reviews, but I will say, on the off road portion you said it mimics snow conditions yet you refused to try Snow Mode. I would say next time try it to be fair across the board.
why is this similar to snow condition?
If it was a Subaru he would try every possible setting with and without traction control then he would jump out and push it and yell “Hey it made it”
Man, TH-cam is flooded with these car review channels that don't know what they're doing. Off roading with traction control turned on its a clear symbol of this person's inexperience; and hence, you shouldn't trust this review.
I own one and I went to test it in a very similar situation. I didn't even have to turn off traction control but just switch on the differential lock and it went up the entire trail flawlessly with scenarios where it did get stuck while having it turned off. Also didn't air down the tires or change them out. Had about 9500 miles driven on stock setup. Very poor representation of this vehicle when he doesn't operate it properly.
In other videos this car out performed the Toyota Rav-4 and other AWD vehicles in uphill climb, so i'm going to assume the issue is that you did something wrong. Like others have stated in the comments you didn't turn off Traction Control or try Snow mode. It was frustrating that you didn't try Snow mode when you specifically said this test would be similar to driving in snow and mud. Why say that and then not even try Snow mode?
Anyone at all concerned about how low the rear turn signals are located? Seems like that could become a safety issue. And why on earth did they do that ??
I love the interior so beautiful.
Questions:
Was the traction control off when you went off road?
Do you think the low battery had something to do with the studder? Not enough current available for the motor perhaps? Just a guess.
Traction control was left on. We leave it on for all vehicles. Hybrid should never have a battery completely go empty. I don’t think it’s related but if it is that still a problem.
@@anonymous00117 Mazda realized that was a stupid implementation and gave it a dedicated Trail button last year. Note that Mazda didn’t have other Drive modes. They only had a sport transmission mode. The Tucson has proper modes and any traction systems should be part of that. That said, We just booked a second Tucson to test out the traction off theory.
@@drivingsports Looks like the gas version had no problems with off roading! Would you try another hybrid with TC off and snow mode?
@@drivingsports I’d like to know how this compares to the Rav4 Hybrid. I know when you tested a 2019 rav4 hybrid you said that is your favorite crossover Hybrid at that time. Where are you now in you’re thinking?
So i guess he never did a test with tc off? I just looked through and saw nothing even though he said he scheduled another test
This guy doesn't know what he's doing. That awd works great. While off road set it in sport, lock the awd, and turn off traction control.the htrac system works well. Guess hyundai didn't pay him enough. Cause I've driven a 2022 hybrid blue through all sorts of stuff.
Yea that really turns me off of the vehicle how it completely disregards your throttle input. If I was in deep snow, on a hill and trying to get out of the way of a truck coming or something, the last thing i’d want would my vehicle to just stop moving in the middle of the road
It wouldn't
turn off TC in low speed low traction scenarios
@@delerium2k I'm not saying you're wrong, but that just sounds so counter-intuitive. What's the technical explanation for that, since intuitively, one would think TC is for low traction situation.
@@cpl8168 in my experience TC is good for normal/high speed scenarios, and terrible in situation where you’re stuck - say for example where you need to rock the vehicle back and forth to get out of a rut. This might be because the TC computer never wants to lose traction, and if you’re stuck you sometimes need the tires to be able to spin to get out
Hybrid limited: Rear seats recline/adjust, you can change order of infotainment icons, passenger has memory seats, rear seats are also heated. You can customize the guage cluster, ventilated seats, the system will warn of red light cameras, you can disable apple/android car play, you can also set up the defogger to go on at certain conditions, the catgo space has a dual level (you can lower it and add few more inches).
My 2020 Escape Hybrid never had any issues offroad.
What color is this?
Hyundai is the best when it is new......
A simple qustion which may have been posted already: Why would yu select ECO Mode while climbing a hill?
You should compare and rank this with Rav4, CRV and Escape hybrids
Definitely discuss the hybrid reliability. Is it even close to Toyota's hybrids????
@@skimonkey5855 no, not even close.
@@anonymous00117 are you seriously trying to say that hyundai and Kia are just as reliable as toyota and honda??? bwahahahaha. I think you need to do better research. No one and i mean no one will agree with that statement.Toyota has been doing hybrid for years and its tried and true. Hyundai.......not so much. Fact is you don't know what you're getting with a first year model car with a new powertrain.
@@ivalterbaptista2305 I get that Toyota is still better but you have to know that Hyundai is catching up.
@@kfx3907 I really hope so. Competition is good for the consumer. It really remains to be seen.
Problem is that I don't like the headligh location and rear turn signals,reliability, 1.6 l turbo engine, also not a fan of push button trans, seems like awd not to good and this is why I like your reviews, you give me what is important not the crap others go on and on about
I have the SEL model that has the slightly smaller screen but with some more physical switches which is nice. The one thing that I still don't understand is that the SEL and lower apparently only get wireless carplay, but the limited only gets wired. I understand if wireless is the premium optional feature, but why is wireless the only option??? Luckily I haven't had any issues with it in a while, but there were a few times where the system was completely unresponsive. Took a while to figure out that the small button on the dash could be pressed to reset the system in a few seconds, but the inconsistency of carplay integration is head scratching.
The two systems were likely designed by different teams at different times and were each affected differently by the chip shortage of the past ~2 years. This sort of oddity is becoming quite common in Ford’s tech packages too, for example.
"OH! I'm getting that Stickado motion!" LMAO
Wonder if it would have done any differently with the throttle in sport mode? maybe not? that stinks though. My wife has a 2019 tuscon and love the thing.
Why didn’t you put the vehicle in snow mode? The AWD mapping may have allowed for more tire spin instead of no throttle/wheel spin. And you made no attempt to disengage traction control to allow for wheel spin. Amazing how when you try a Subaru you’ll try every possible setting combination but not the Hyundai. Subaru’s did the exact same thing before X mode. They would kill throttle to save the CVT from destruction.
That’s not how Hyundai’s snow mode works. It cuts power.
Would have liked to have seen you try different AWD settings and disengagement of traction control. As you have done this a number of times with other vehicles doing this test.
@@drivingsports it’s called giving it the same fair shake that you give other vehicles. Your bias towards Subaru is amazing.
I can't believe it's an AWD having in mind that video: th-cam.com/video/etluZrWfq-s/w-d-xo.html. Tucson hybrid won with RAV4, Ford Kuga and Seat Ateca. Best regards from Poland.
Proves that driver is also important.
I guess, Driving Sports TV is to ashamed of replying lol.
Great video! Thanks!
However, no offense, your off-road driving “technique” was severely lacking. Momentum, and *never* pausing, is essential. Also, it should have been in “snow” mode.
We pause on purpose for all vehicles we test on this hill to challenge their AWD systems. With enough momentum a Camry can make it up. The point is to illustrate how and why the system works or fails. We explain this in most of the videos, but didn’t elaborate this one.
@@drivingsports Just doesn’t seem that realistic - what’s the video of yours that addresses the start/stop technique?
Why no “snow” mode?
We did a follow-up video with Snow mode. Look for our Tucson GDI video. We didn’t think it would help since snow typically just cuts throttle. Should we have tried it? To be complete, yes. But I’m sure it wouldn’t have improvised the situation. The systems limitations were apparent. IIRC the MDX review the “point” of the test is elaborated on.
@@drivingsports I think the issue is that it’s just very difficult to reproduce the *exact* same scenario for each run at the hill. E.g., at 18:46 in this video, the tire clearly “hits” the “angled” edge of the large rock with the front right tire, so much so the back of the car practically lifts up in back as its forward motion is stopped by the rock. Contrast that with at 9:00 in the other “snow mode” video you mentioned above where the tire is clearly a few inches to the *right* on that same rock and where it meets less physical resistance. You seem to draw some pretty heavy conclusions, but they’re based on subtle, but significant, scenario differences.
Maybe your new test track could somehow incorporate more consistency.
perhaps he had a bad day...
I guess it's cutting off power because of the hybrid system. With electric motors, the wheels can spin really fast. But should have done better with software to manage that.
Really liked all the features and the looks though. Great review as always 🔥
till finally release an SUV without *that* DCT, its still meh offroad..
btw, hope you get to test the new Mitsubishi Outlander soon, cant find an offroad test for it anywhere :)
The DCT does perfectly fine if you know how to drive it. Yes, even offroad :)
@@moonsapling No, no it doesn't. Every single video with a DCT off road is usually bad. They also overheat easily, and don't last as long as a normal auto. They were made and intended for sports cars, not normal vehicles, and it shows.
@@plainlybasic2300 it is very common here in Europe to offroad a manual high gear ratio car, and the same principles apply to DCTs. The fact that most americans including you are too used to torque converter doesnt mean DCTs are bad and only for sporty cars. If you know how to drive a manual you wont have issues with the DCT.
Nobody here complains that the DCT overheats cause nobody lays on the clutch pack as if they are torque converters.
DCTs require different driving habbits and its too hard for some "drivers" to aknowledge that..
@@moonsapling
I once heard that elephants in Europe can fly.....of course I believe it you know because an European told me so.
I think the transmission in this is a more conventional 6-speed auto, not a DCT.
More cars need to offer a light colored interior like that. With my 4runner offered something brighter inside.
And let me tell you it's fast, when you use the drive mode transfer during acceleration, it's basically instant and you feel the power hit. So satisfying ❤️❤️❤️
Nice video as usual. However, I don't think most owners will take this off road.
this mild soft roading.should not be any problem with 8.3" clearance.
It’s really weird he didn’t try the different awd modes🤔. I mean there is a mode for snow and mud. Also why not just turn traction control off and try it like that? Usually these are quite good reviews but these decissions seem weird. Otherwise these are exellent reviews! One of my favourite channels👍
No mud mode on the US model.
Ive got mine 10 day’s ago and tested it mildly because the break in period but im pretty excited to test the 0-60… the PHEV should be quite a bit spicier.
The off road testing will be done soon after installing sone skid plates… i think it will perform much much better after switching off the TC and I’m curious how the dedicated off-road modes in the PHEV will perform
The best channel for car tests
I love your reviews. You’re very thorough, you go through the features in detail and explain how they actually work unlike other car reviewers. You have serious quality content and you test real life situations! Big fan.
How do you feel about going off-road, driving over sharp rocks, but no spare tire.
Not ideal, that’s for sure. Note that the trail we are on has rocks with mostly rounded edges.
the stuttering was coming from the electric motor inbetween the internal combustion engine and the transmission, and the ICE being off at low speed. Hyundai's drivetrain layout for their hybrids is quite different from the more typical one that Toyota and Ford use, and _those_ systems are able to mix power/torque from multiple inputs more effectively. Is there a way to force the 1.6L to stay on even at low speeds? Perhaps Sport mode? Or maybe Snow/Ice or Winter (whatever they call it) for the sake of keeping the cabin heated?
Who the hell is going to go off roading in this car?
I am
Cmon man A test of all driving modes would be great with and without tc.
Does anyone else miss the days when you'd lock the hubs and know which tires were moving and not have a computer trying to figure it out?
That’s a four wheel drive function, these are AWD systems which do not lock (even if they say the lock the center, it’s not a real diff lock). The difference is in the differentials.
a Fun little car he said 😂😂😂 as an european I think that's funny 😁
Wonder if this has been resolved in the 2023 model?
Normally a great channel but this review misses the boat by not attempting to use the “Snow” driving mode off-road.
I like the look of the front end .
Nice review !
Surprised you didn’t mention the very annoying sound when the vehicle is in reverse. Is there also a review of the Lincoln Corsair Hybrid in the works?
Do you think the mid-trim non-hybrid would perform similarly up the trail?
Why are you cruising in the left lane on the 3 lane highway?
I'd love to see the new Rogue and Pathfinder on the off-road.
We’re definitely going to do Pathfinder as soon as we can get our hands on it.
Outlander pls.....
@@drivingsports Would like to see you guys do this test with a Plug-in Hybrid Tuscon. The motors are beefed up just a bit, and the extra torque might just do enough.
Having the infotainment mounted on top of dash is better for road safety as you are not looking down
A lot of comments as to why you didn't turn off traction control. I like the vehicle and all of your reviews!
Did climbing up the mountain drain the battery quick like on the CR-V hybrid?
I was thinking about getting this and the Kia Sportage that is coming out next year. Hopefully on Wednesday, Kia will provide more info.
Doesn't it have snow, mud, rocks ,etc setting? And I know that top of the line has adaptive suspension.
No, no, no and no. At least not here in the USA.
@@drivingsports It has snow mode in the USA. Canada gets the other terrein modes.
@@drivingsports You literally say/show there's a snow mode in this video...
@@jordanwyant3427 sorry yes, out of all those it does have snow.
Which one should I buy Jeep compass or tucson.i am in confusion
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Subaru is much much better than Hyundai when you are looking for off road...
Will you be doing a Hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid review?
If you own a 2022 Tucson Limited Hybrid, like I do, I recommend reading pages 6-27 through 6-54 of the hard copy manual in your glove compartment for a better understanding of how the ESC traction control system works. Honestly, I find it confusing and it would be great if Hyundai would put out something a little clearer in both written and video form for drivers. As another poster pointed out, if you want to do serious off-reading, get a vehicle designed for it. Most AWD vehicles that are comfortable on long road trips are not designed for anything other than very light off roading like driving on dirt roads or relatively clear of obstruction forest roads. The road bed in the video which the Tucson is having trouble with is likely to cause a flat tire and maybe even a cracked rim. Not recommended!
Picking mine up tomorrow, I'll do my best to replicate this issue and see if it was vehicle or user error.
Queue Frustrated Yoda 20:21 🤣. Jokes aside, great video as always.
lmao hahaha
why's he in ETC on a rocky incline?
The regular gas 2.5 liter engine does fine on this off-road test. Leave the hybrid at home for this stuff.
Can't wait for the Forester hybrid. It'll outperform this big time.
We got the Forester e-Boxer here in Europe. Its a mild hybrid and it barely has any power to move. 150hp from NA 2.0 Boxer with a 17hp electric motor...its barely selling here.
@@moonsapling yeah I'm talking about a new version of it where it would be more power with a turbo engine
@@comiskeybum Oh, excuse me for my comment then. Do you know when it is coming and where I can read about it?
@@moonsapling Subaru has not released any details on it yet I think it is still model year or two away. But if you look at the turbo engine in the ascent and the outback it makes sense that you could put that in the Forester along with a hybrid powertrain
@@comiskeybum i dont think that would ever happen, its more likely that they use Toyota's power split device(with a stronger motor in it) combined with a 2.5/2.0 NA boxer. My 2 cents
Nice review... Is it true that using ventilated cooling cause backpain?
Never heard or experienced that.
Thanks 👍
The problem with it is that the rear turning signals are placed very low and that prevent people behind you from seeing it in traffic
I totally agree, very poor placement!
Hyundai puts their more money in advertising and adding creature comforts. They are fine vehicles for the average folk that only keep it a few years. Beware there is a major recall for 2016 -2021 out... The Anti-lock Brake Hydraulic Electronic Control Unit (HECU) could corrode internally and cause an electrical short, possibly resulting in an engine compartment fire. Hyundai tell folks to park their car outside!Yikes if it took 4 years to catch that, what other things are going to pop up. That alone is a big nooope from me
My 2008 Tucson is running great and has had zero problems
The regular model (non-hybrid) has a dual-clutch transmission..
If the PHEV shares the same transmission, I'm wondering if the jerking over the rough terrain was down to the DC transmission? ... and the loss if power due to it cutting power to prevent overheating?
Thanks. I had been on the fence about this model but opted to go with the 2021 CX-5. Glad I passed.
As a fellow CX-5 owner, great choice!
I bet you Hyundai has a TSB for that traction control software or at least will soon. It appears you found a couple programming issues that didn't pop up in R&D.
I hope so.
@@drivingsports can you turn off traction control? Did you reach out to hyundai with this issue?
For consistency we keep traction control enabled on all vehicles going up that climb. Hyundai will see this review, but in the past we’ve reached out to them about issues - even holding a video for 2 weeks pending their reply - and we got nothing. Their PR department is excellent about answering questions but anything that has to go back to engineering ends up in a black hole.
I love your videos; they are really informative, fun to watch and with a very good quality. Keep up the good work!!
Not everyone knows how to drive off-road, including this reviewer.
Could do a do a review on the hyundai 1.6 petrol manual ultimate. Please
I own a 2022 Tucson limited and I feel like u devalued the Tucson however majority of Tucson owners will not be taking it off road
It looked a mild softroading trail, I wouldn't mind taking my SUV on a trail like this.
Definitely something going on with that precise car. A tc system cannot be that bad to just stop the car dead
We had a similar experience with the Hyundai Palisade earlier this year and the Kia Sorento a couple weeks ago. It's way too common on their latest generation vehicles to be "just this one."
@@drivingsports yeah but kia sorento felt like it was to prevent the gearbox from overheating, does this tucson have a dual clutch?? Because that may well have something to do🤔
@@pablomoreno1999 Tucson has a torque converter. 🤷🏻♂️
At the point it cut the power from the throttle.... Would turning off traction control help?
No. With open diffs it would just spin a wheel.
@@drivingsports ... Its a shame about the Hyundai 😕... Was hoping it might have something similar to Mazda's CX5 - which has a feature where if the 'TCS OFF' button is selected it switches the system into a mode that simulates locking differentials via the brakes for off-road situation s..
Even Mazda has finally moved that “feature” to a dedicated Trail button recently.