Typhoon Train Attack (IL-2 Sturmovik : Battle of Normandy)

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  • A straight-forward 24 km flight from Asch (in Holland) to attack a German train travelling between Vise and Tongeren (both in Belgium).
    The aircraft is a Hawker Typhoon Mk.1b.
    It was a relatively late entrant into the War and was powered with a very powerful engine - a Napier Sabre 2180 hp engine, which gave the aircraft a top speed of 663 km/hr (very fast for the 1940's!!).
    The aircraft was armed with 4 x 20cm cannon (very lethal/effective!) and was usually armed with bombs and/or rockets (usually 8 x high-explosive, or armour-piercing, rockets).
    In this video, I make three attacks on a train using my 4 x 20 cm cannon and 8 x high-explosive rockets.
    I achieved limited success - causing the locomotive to uncouple from its wagons - with light damage to the locomotive but destroying 2 -3 wagons.
    Although I get hit by flak coming up from the train, the damage to my aircraft is negligible.
    Aiming UNGUIDED rockets isn't easy and takes a lot of practice (one needs to aim high because the drop-off in the rockets' trajectories occurs rapidly).

ความคิดเห็น • 107

  • @campbellbrand8038
    @campbellbrand8038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With 8 x 60 pound rockets it was the same as a full broadside from a Leander class light cruiser with 8 x 6 inch guns.

  • @kwaka0211
    @kwaka0211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    My uncle flew Typhoons - he was shot down and killed as he attacked the marshalling yards at Osnabruck on 24/02/1945.
    He is buried at Reichswald cemetary on the Dutch / German border. he was 21 years old and had been flying for 4 years - virtually unheard of for a fighter pilot. He is buried next to a bomber gunner aged 17.
    War is not a game.

    • @BRITISHREPUBLICANuk
      @BRITISHREPUBLICANuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said. Nice though that your Uncle's exploits will never be forgotten because a new generation can see and fly simulations of the plane he once flew.

    • @Gwaithmir
      @Gwaithmir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A true hero.

    • @jamesbelmont3603
      @jamesbelmont3603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Gwaithmir the youth of today live their shallow lives on screen games and do not have the intellect to think beyond the little pixels which they use as brains. You make a sad point about real war. People die. RIP.

    • @stub6378
      @stub6378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesbelmont3603 absolute bollocks.

    • @Larsonaut
      @Larsonaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is such a shame, so many lifes lost. With the bomber crews who bombed cities I don't feel that sorry, even they fought on the right side.

  • @martyn6792
    @martyn6792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't wish to pick but they had 20mm canons, not 20cm

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was a careless error on my part - noted very soon after publishing the video - the only way to correct was to re-do the video from scratch and I decided that I wouldn’t be doing that.

  • @hoodoo2001
    @hoodoo2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One things computers don't do is create the actual reality. However the terrain and such is terrific .

  • @tahoma6889
    @tahoma6889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This needs a sound mod. Never understood why there was not more attention to sound in IL-2. Thankfully, there are some mods that make a great difference.

  • @ag2938
    @ag2938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was ist der Unterschied zwischen Hawker Typhoon und Tempest? Beide Typen sehen sehr ähnlich aus.

  • @nobbytart27
    @nobbytart27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What an absolute brute of a fighter and easily one of the best strike aircraft of WW2, if you want a good read on life as a Tiffy pilot get "Day of the Typhoon" brilliant book on strike missions in Normandy on very forward airfields that were that close to the front they came under mortar attack

    • @EagleOneM1953
      @EagleOneM1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the tip. If I can find it I can add it to my book 'From a Luftwaffe fighter pilot's perspective' about Luftwaffe Messerschmitt pilot Johannes Steinhoff trying to defend Sicily by the end of the war.... I loved their perspective and reading about their problems with supplies and incompetence at the highest level all the way up to Goering and Hitler himself.
      He later got badly burned in a crash with a Me 262, survived the war and became a general in the modern Luftwaffe... You must have seen a picture of him with his face badly disfigured..... fascinating read...
      And since the Typhoon is one of my favorite WWII aircraft I sure will look for this book... thanks again...

  • @jcnash493
    @jcnash493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to Rise from the East, 247 Squadron (letters ZY) was never based at Asch. (Eindhoven? Helmond?) The last Typhoon ZY-Y was hit by flak Aug 22, 1944, so before Holland bases. 247 was my father's squadron.

    • @toonertik
      @toonertik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My father's was 257/ Burma. Do you have your dad's log book.. I have mine.. ))

  • @EagleOneM1953
    @EagleOneM1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoever wrote the captions has to double check and correct it.
    It said the Typhoon has 4x 20 cm cannons in the wing. I'm sure that should be 2 cm/200 mm cannons (about 0.78")...
    20 cm is 200 mm = 7.8"...the wing in't that thick... or barely...

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it was a mistake on my part. I’d need to totally redo the video to correct it so have decided to leave it “as is”.

    • @tahoma6889
      @tahoma6889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mungee2 You could use Annotation to correct/retract it right on TH-cam. Just a thought.

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tahoma6889 Let me try that. Thanks.

    • @tahoma6889
      @tahoma6889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mungee2 it should work for you. Are you still active with il2? Interested in collaboration to create a great film? Let's talk..

    • @notbraindead7298
      @notbraindead7298 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mungee2 20mm auto cannons. Seems like everybody had them.

  • @BrianWMay
    @BrianWMay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both train and airfield '11 o'clock low' . . . scarcely be HIGH would it?

  • @soultraveller5027
    @soultraveller5027 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes it's a cannon a 20 mm Hispano-Suize HS MK .404 .V

  • @rattywoof5259
    @rattywoof5259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:45 - 20cm cannons? I don't think so - that would make the shells nearly as big as those of 8" naval guns. A Typhoon wouldn't be able to carry many of those!

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a careless mistake that I made and it was pointed out to me soon after I published the video - the only way to correct this would be for me to re-do the video from scratch and I decided that I wouldn’t do that.

  • @BDOutdoorsCanada
    @BDOutdoorsCanada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty cool... but a 24 cylinder Napier Sabre needs to sound more like a 2250 hp chain saw engine than a Tiger Moth...

    • @tahoma6889
      @tahoma6889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, sound mod is needed. Hope he gets one installed in future vids.

    • @amcken9316
      @amcken9316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Around 40+ years ago I found an LP at the library of WW2 engine sounds. The one for the Sabre is used in this video.
      th-cam.com/video/Fo0Lv1S3RfQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @am5p8
    @am5p8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best way to destroy the train - Hit the track immediately in front of the train. Travelling at speed it will spectacularly derail.
    - Hit the main part of the engine with the cannon i.e. the boiler. Steam pressure will do the damage.

    • @edreynolds3745
      @edreynolds3745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      obvious.

    • @am5p8
      @am5p8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edreynolds3745 Apparently not. This pilot didn't.

  • @bigred8438
    @bigred8438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 cm Cannon or 20 mm cannons

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It obviously should be 20mm - a careless mistake on my part!
      It was picked up soon after publishing the video - the only way that I could correct it was to re-do the whole video and I decided not to do that.

  • @waynethomas3638
    @waynethomas3638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20cm cannon? dont you mean 20mm or 2cm?

  • @DjankoDK
    @DjankoDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Its not 20cm cannons, but 20mm cannons.
    20cm are very large…😊
    But love your videos😊

    • @edwardcarberry1095
      @edwardcarberry1095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes which years did battleships start to come out with the 8" then moved up in size?
      Commented here because your comment is Correct.

    • @jamessalmon8128
      @jamessalmon8128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know that a Typhoon rocket attack would do about the same damage as a destroyer broadside (8 x 4" HE shells), but the thought of a Typhoon firing off a chain of roughly 8" shells (20cm) - that train, nor half the countryside surrounding it, wouldn't have stood a chance! I know - it was a typo - but it made me laugh!

    • @EagleOneM1953
      @EagleOneM1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As I just posted.... 20 cm is 200 mm, that is 7.8", thicker than the wing..... 20 mm is about 0.78", thick enough to do some serious damage. Most modern jets have 20mm guns while the A-10, a real tank buster has 30 mm bullets (±1.2")...

    • @baronvonfaust
      @baronvonfaust 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edwardcarberry1095 battleships moved past 8 inch guns a long time ago, pre-20th century. They were already armed with 12 inch guns in 1900, and by the time of a Typhoon engagement like this there were 14, 15 and 16 inch gun armed battleships in the European theatre. And in the Pacific there were a pair of Japanese behemoths armed with 18.1 inch guns, which I think were the largest battleship guns ever put to sea... didn't really help much when the endless waves of carrier aircraft came for them, but impressive nonetheless. :)

    • @edwardcarberry1095
      @edwardcarberry1095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@baronvonfaust YES I KNEW that! But eweou didn't answer my question. As what you stated was not asked.

  • @a.r.t.4611
    @a.r.t.4611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's 20mm cannons, not cm cannons.

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, a careless mistake on my part.

  • @huskieheart9340
    @huskieheart9340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    20MM cannons, not CM

  • @ToddHofer
    @ToddHofer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ummm. I think you meant 20 "mm" cannon. NOT 20 "cm".

  • @Gwaithmir
    @Gwaithmir 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why no wing man?

  • @lisahaler8013
    @lisahaler8013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @misolgit69
    @misolgit69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why only 180 mph ??

  • @philhodgkinson1460
    @philhodgkinson1460 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Animated?

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure what you mean?

  • @s.rmurray8161
    @s.rmurray8161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 times 20 cm cannon? don't think so! Try 2x 20 MM and I will believe you!

  • @wanyelewis9667
    @wanyelewis9667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not start your attack by taking out the tracks ahead of the train? At least stop forward motion & maybe cause a derailment. Then, with the train stopped, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. No matter what you do from that point on, the train's not going anywhere.

  • @janehill9764
    @janehill9764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 mm canon not 20 cm cannon

  • @jean-robertlombard1416
    @jean-robertlombard1416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wanted to tell you about the cannons but....some other already did.

  • @markgritt4876
    @markgritt4876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They meant 2cm

  • @peaceraybob
    @peaceraybob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I notice that you flew directly to your target straight, level and slow, rather than weaving. There was no sign that your checked your air-space prior, during or after each attack run on the train. At what point did Luftwaffe resistance completely disappear? Or this supposed to be post-War and you're shooting up an Allied train?
    The landing approach was steep but I do think you nailed the touch-down.

    • @BradBrassman
      @BradBrassman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a kid in th 60's one of my close neighbours had been a Hurricane pilot during BOB and later Typhoons and Tempest V's. He told me that after D Day their worst danger was enemy ground fire and how the Luftwaffe were mostly pulled back for home defence. He also told me that enemy armour was their main targets after D-Day.

    • @tahoma6889
      @tahoma6889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After the initial landings, there were little too no German aircraft around. They were all pulled back. Flying into France was suicide.

    • @thomasromano9321
      @thomasromano9321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, I assume you're taking off from England, so where was the North Sea??

    • @tahoma6889
      @tahoma6889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasromano9321 airfield in France after landings. The north sea is very far away from Normandy. Out of range far.

    • @samuelvarela8265
      @samuelvarela8265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At that point of war the Lufwaffe was focused on defending the home front by the allied bombers.

  • @themechanic5671
    @themechanic5671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing!

  • @Wally5716256
    @Wally5716256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20cm cannons??????? Ithink you mean 20mm or 2cm.

    • @prabhakariyer7319
      @prabhakariyer7319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine a railroad kind of cannon on this light weight aircraft.

  • @dank630
    @dank630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Multiple gun runs against a defended target … there are a few guys who took temporary residence in Hanoi who would advise against this

  • @garthbarrett6067
    @garthbarrett6067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20 mm cannons...not 20 cm = 7.87 inches

  • @kennethsewell4245
    @kennethsewell4245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a real film of that attack

  • @wdk535
    @wdk535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Multiple inaccuracies in this video. 20 CM cannon? That's about 8 inches. You mean 20 mm. Also, says 4 cannon but show eight.

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I realised that I'd made a mistake on the 20 cm after I published the video - it would require re-doing the whole video to correct and I don't feel like doing that!
      I can only see 4 x cannons.
      There were 8 x rockets!

  • @easttexan2933
    @easttexan2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what joy stick are you using?

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM2

    • @easttexan2933
      @easttexan2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mungee2 thanks

  • @Motumatai3
    @Motumatai3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20cm guns?????? Dude thats the size of battleship guns. Try 20mm cannons

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I realised soon after publishing this video that I should have said 20 mm and not 20 cm - a careless error on my part - the only way to correct this is to re-do the whole movie, and I'm not about to do that!

  • @narabdela
    @narabdela 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20cm cannons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really?

  • @edreynolds3745
    @edreynolds3745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    War's not a game. These simulatiions are.

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree.
      Your point being?

  • @c.morees9698
    @c.morees9698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not a pilot..but i should stay low as possible before and during the attack..trees in the area should avoid the flak gunners can see you!

  • @kentleytaggart5816
    @kentleytaggart5816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not bad

  • @stanbligh9217
    @stanbligh9217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Trusting your luck doing more than one pass on a Flack Train? Fast run in, Cannons and Rockets and get the hell home. Live to fight another Day.

    • @BrianWMay
      @BrianWMay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flak

    • @tahoma6889
      @tahoma6889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Decent started early. HE ran out of room too quickly. Better to start a bit higher, steeper dive at a later moment, and put those munitions spot on. ONE PASS ONLY. Might spot a target of op on the way home as well. But only one pass on the train. Starting higher will allow more aim time and better results. I don't mean 5000 feet. LOL. But 1500 perhaps. Hold level longer before decent starts.

  • @Brian-om2hh
    @Brian-om2hh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20cm canons? Wow, a flying battleship....... I think most were fitted with 20mm canons....

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I only became aware of this after publishing and to correct it would mean me re-doing the video from scratch.
      A very careless error on my part.

  • @kwakgreen
    @kwakgreen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry to say my friend you couldn't hit the side of a barn with a cannon from 10 FEET. Plus 20 cm is the size of guns you'd find on a old Destroyer or Frigate.

  • @dovidell
    @dovidell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:41- The Typhoon's standard armament is 4 X 20 CM cannons !!!!!!!!!

    • @lonzo61
      @lonzo61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's 20 millimeter cannons. If they were 20 centimeter cannons, they would be 200 millimeter. No aircraft has ever carried a 200 millimeter gun.

    • @stumpusMaximus
      @stumpusMaximus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol I clocked it too! Imagine the recoil!! He did say ‘cannon’ though 😂

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I made a bad error there!! Hehe!

  • @rascalferret
    @rascalferret 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starving the camps...

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    @bobbyvance4725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kooooool

  • @dirkusmaximus9268
    @dirkusmaximus9268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ASCH IS BELGIUM !!!!!!!

    • @mungee2
      @mungee2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that is a mistake on my part.
      I Googled the name “Asch” and the Asch that came up was the Asch in Holland (this Asch is ABOVE The Hague in latitude - I didn’t check that!).
      Thanks for pointing this out.

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    @MsXf95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @TimmieVD
    @TimmieVD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Asch (nowadays As) is in Belgium, not in Holland.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zutendaal_Air_Base