I'm pretty sure that was merely a coincidence. There's still lots of high level tactics/strategies used in these games that are similar in difficulty, though.
@@calliph Yeah, because Stats wanted to attack right when he switched to his army. He pulled back when he saw the placement of the biles. Artosis just made a big deal about it because it's his job to hype up and engage the viewers. What he said was possible, but seemingly highly unlikely to me.
I wanted Stats to dive on swarm hosts whenever they were extended. And put a few cannons on the perimeter of the main for vision and to defend against nydus/burrow. Stats was totally contained in match 2 by these two things
That second match teached me that if I want to beat Nydus as protoss, I just need to play 5 times as good as Stats did and I will be ok :) Edit. Also the other matches teached me that I need to canon rush to reach nydus stage even instead of behind eventhough nothing happened, and that with the muta strat if you forget bane speed you are ded and Jimrising will whine protoss OP, that delusional dude LUL
smasher9007 not a word was spared on how well rogue played that 2nd game. Oh right, i forget unless your name is serral you cannot receive any praise as a zerg.
Or just use one of the myriad completely off balance overpowered things Protoss has. But who am I kidding? You will steal whine when being the worse player.
@@croec oof a zerg complaining about protoss with last 3 years almost zero protoss good results at high and medium high level. You must not be very good to do that, dumb or perhaps you are just memeing, etiher way funny comment :D
Good series, although it's kinda sad that basically the only way for Protoss to have any chance against Zerg is by cheesing them at the start of the game. Even with near perfect defense, Stats couldn't survive the attacks in game 2. Nydus is just way too unbalanced in the hands of a competent player.
"these storms are amazing" .... is a sentence that bothers me more than it should :D. I guess they are... but is it really that difficult to right click bunched up units ?
Caster is always more difficult to micro. You may need some extra hotkey for them. For Storm, it isn't hard to use but still not hard to avoid. Fight with Storm comes down to the enemy micro and you see Rogue not even try dodging it and take full damage. That is a bad micro from Rogue.
The same can be said for all one click casters. It's not a problem unique to protoss. The same argument could be made about the casters going crazy over nydus multitask. It is almost always harder to defend than it is to attack. They gave stats his dews here though
@@Whalery yeah most the time you get storms like these is because the other player miss microed. But at the same time 'poor micro by rogue' is not something the audience wants to hear in such a major moment
Dude, this games mechamisms have become "ahhhhhh look how I've slightly changed my gameplay since the last update!" Its become so fucken boring to watch. It used to be that Maru's quick dropping everywhere was the shit cuz he did it so well, and Rogue swarming his opponent with his crazy fucken macro was sick AF Cuz no one had ever played like that, and Classic abusing how good protoss was in the early and late game was the fucken shit man. Now, everytime I see these games I'm sarcastically thinking "wow, so he did the drop thing again huh? Nice..." or (sarcastically thinking again when rogue or dark is playing) "sick, hes macro-ing again to smash, nice..." or when classic is playing "sick, so you're telling me hes archon dropping or macro-ing huh? Siiiiick bro" this shit has become become so vanilla you can hear it In the castor's voice man. I get how difficult it is to perform at these levels, but this game has been out since 2008(?) And the only thing we get are "patch updates" and "oh well, now its free to play! What more do you want?!?!" I used to love this game because people always came up with ingenious ways to play it. It's all just a copy and paste now, with everyone (including myself)(besides the Chinese players((Has)) copying Maru and innovation, rogue and dark, and classic and whomever the other mother fucks plays protoss well (Zest? Harstem? ((Jk bout harstem))). I guess what I'm trying to say is that this game is broken/fixed/bullshit/frustrating cuz I have been seeing the same gameplay. "Oh shit bro, you didn't expect the proxy racks or the Oracle?!?!" FRIGG OFF BRUUUUTHER
rogue threw that so hard. maybe strategically but yeah i've never been so sure that someone threw a match. not cuz i think rogue is so much better than stats, but because his race is too strong to lose so badly.
Stats played very well here. Though, Rogue's play this series was very low level. Losing twice to cannon rush, and then forgetting baneling speed in a in a baneling all in. Ouch.
43:22 Some of the worst casting I've ever heard in my life. Not only does Tasteless not understand why those locusts needed to be micro'd, Artosis and him could not be less excited. Just straight up pathetic casting during an insane moment.
@@hhhhippo He moved them so they didn't get hit but the nexus wasn't gonna go down, it was alast ditch effort. Pretty much you and tasteless are making a big deal over nothing but funnily enough both making a big deal :/ fucking stupid.
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44:35 that is why I watch Starcraft II
Overreaction by Artosis
I'm pretty sure that was merely a coincidence. There's still lots of high level tactics/strategies used in these games that are similar in difficulty, though.
@@AuroraSymphony nah. Pushing archon bubbles is a thing. Toss will morph a few and then push them forward with their army for timings.
@@calliph Yeah, because Stats wanted to attack right when he switched to his army. He pulled back when he saw the placement of the biles. Artosis just made a big deal about it because it's his job to hype up and engage the viewers. What he said was possible, but seemingly highly unlikely to me.
@@calliph Actually, you could say I agree with you. You're arguing for something different.
Stats is the GSL champion killer. He defeated Maru before when Maru was still in prime form.
He can sometimes kill champions, but he’s never the champion when it counts ;)
Thank you Artosis and Tasteless, the best of the best of sc casting, sorry to the rest
As a zerg player, I have to admit....nydus is pretty goddamn OP, especially for how cheap it is.
Same price as nuke WTF
@@Trollingstone34 nuke = 100/100, nydus = 50/50 while nydus being way more effective and easy to use.
Tastosis banter is the best in the business.
25:18 that prism... QUOI?
What about those blinks + prism at 27:42 :O
I wanted Stats to dive on swarm hosts whenever they were extended. And put a few cannons on the perimeter of the main for vision and to defend against nydus/burrow. Stats was totally contained in match 2 by these two things
Game 2 is a perfect example of how op zerg is.
Health bars?
I still haven't learned my lesson from not thinking about storms as I march my army into a shit ton of fucking storms.
That second match teached me that if I want to beat Nydus as protoss, I just need to play 5 times as good as Stats did and I will be ok :)
Edit. Also the other matches teached me that I need to canon rush to reach nydus stage even instead of behind eventhough nothing happened, and that with the muta strat if you forget bane speed you are ded and Jimrising will whine protoss OP, that delusional dude LUL
Stats just won 3-1 and you still whine, jesus stop you child. also its taught not teached
smasher9007 not a word was spared on how well rogue played that 2nd game.
Oh right, i forget unless your name is serral you cannot receive any praise as a zerg.
lol
Or just use one of the myriad completely off balance overpowered things Protoss has. But who am I kidding? You will steal whine when being the worse player.
@@croec oof a zerg complaining about protoss with last 3 years almost zero protoss good results at high and medium high level. You must not be very good to do that, dumb or perhaps you are just memeing, etiher way funny comment :D
Good series, although it's kinda sad that basically the only way for Protoss to have any chance against Zerg is by cheesing them at the start of the game. Even with near perfect defense, Stats couldn't survive the attacks in game 2. Nydus is just way too unbalanced in the hands of a competent player.
They need to make the MS good for protoss and for heavens sake increase cost or longer time for zerg free units..
It's not the same guy who just won GSL 3....no way... Banes vs Air and archons.?
This is rogue, hes either next level or completely bombs
Damn Rogue why no control on locusts?? Every single locust wave wasted
Wow what a 1 match xd
damn stats playing dirty, exceptional strats and control
silly Rogue you forgot to make infestors =(
"these storms are amazing" .... is a sentence that bothers me more than it should :D.
I guess they are... but is it really that difficult to right click bunched up units ?
Caster is always more difficult to micro. You may need some extra hotkey for them. For Storm, it isn't hard to use but still not hard to avoid. Fight with Storm comes down to the enemy micro and you see Rogue not even try dodging it and take full damage. That is a bad micro from Rogue.
The same can be said for all one click casters. It's not a problem unique to protoss. The same argument could be made about the casters going crazy over nydus multitask. It is almost always harder to defend than it is to attack. They gave stats his dews here though
@@Whalery yeah most the time you get storms like these is because the other player miss microed. But at the same time 'poor micro by rogue' is not something the audience wants to hear in such a major moment
Yes it is. Templars are slow, squishy and have low range, basically you need good play from toss + sloppy opponent to get good storms.
stats mah boi switching it up.
Dude, this games mechamisms have become "ahhhhhh look how I've slightly changed my gameplay since the last update!" Its become so fucken boring to watch. It used to be that Maru's quick dropping everywhere was the shit cuz he did it so well, and Rogue swarming his opponent with his crazy fucken macro was sick AF Cuz no one had ever played like that, and Classic abusing how good protoss was in the early and late game was the fucken shit man. Now, everytime I see these games I'm sarcastically thinking "wow, so he did the drop thing again huh? Nice..." or (sarcastically thinking again when rogue or dark is playing) "sick, hes macro-ing again to smash, nice..." or when classic is playing "sick, so you're telling me hes archon dropping or macro-ing huh? Siiiiick bro" this shit has become become so vanilla you can hear it In the castor's voice man. I get how difficult it is to perform at these levels, but this game has been out since 2008(?) And the only thing we get are "patch updates" and "oh well, now its free to play! What more do you want?!?!" I used to love this game because people always came up with ingenious ways to play it. It's all just a copy and paste now, with everyone (including myself)(besides the Chinese players((Has)) copying Maru and innovation, rogue and dark, and classic and whomever the other mother fucks plays protoss well (Zest? Harstem? ((Jk bout harstem))). I guess what I'm trying to say is that this game is broken/fixed/bullshit/frustrating cuz I have been seeing the same gameplay. "Oh shit bro, you didn't expect the proxy racks or the Oracle?!?!" FRIGG OFF BRUUUUTHER
cringe
"Taste my sword" Dirty bastard
They must not have seen Rey’s saber in the new trailer. So lame.
Yeah, because LIGHTsabers totally need hand-guards!
Edit: as a retcon, like 40 years after the fact. (yes this is for irony, editing this in)
In game three Stats could have done stasis trap on the queens and killed the 3rd hatch @37:00
Yea, nice idea actually.
Quoi?!
Bring back the fucking Archon Toilet
rogue threw that so hard. maybe strategically but yeah i've never been so sure that someone threw a match. not cuz i think rogue is so much better than stats, but because his race is too strong to lose so badly.
@Λ only in your opinion. People here all saying rogue throw but yous bronze-gold level and dont know the game well.
Creep Tumors r OP!
Swarm host with nydus play is just ridiculous nerf plz
the best Protoss in the world vs Rogue...
Where the zerg op comment
Zerg is op rouge dont needs to win and didnt go lordfestor imba madness
Protoss up, bring back the planetcracker with blackhole
Stats played very well here. Though, Rogue's play this series was very low level. Losing twice to cannon rush, and then forgetting baneling speed in a in a baneling all in. Ouch.
QUOI ??!
It seemed like rogue didnt want to win.
In game 4, why did he go Brood Lord when Stats already had lots of Tempests? I wondered if he threw the match.
broken, op zerg lost , good
Yeah cause protoss is balanced, one of the best players in the world lose to retarded cannon rush cheese.
Zerg OP...
Stats reached GOD stats now, even beat a race with endless free units and cooldown-less teleportation of any units Ô_0
Teleportation takes delay and limited in army supply moved for both toss and terrains while nydus is near instant, all army moved.
땅굴 개사기네 졸라 계속 뚫는거봐라.
저그전은 김대엽이 조성호보다 훨씬 낫네.
JESUS CHRIST RETURNS , REPENT OF SIN AND CHANGE YOUR WAY OF LIVING
No
Nerf protoss
I can now thankfully zone out when these two start with their stupid jokes
You're stupid
43:22 Some of the worst casting I've ever heard in my life. Not only does Tasteless not understand why those locusts needed to be micro'd, Artosis and him could not be less excited. Just straight up pathetic casting during an insane moment.
You wrote all that, but you didn't bother to educate them or the rest of us? lol...
@@MikePhumanaut What, that a ranged unit in the locusts can be micro'd against Zealots? You really need me to figure that out?
@@hhhhippo He moved them so they didn't get hit but the nexus wasn't gonna go down, it was alast ditch effort. Pretty much you and tasteless are making a big deal over nothing but funnily enough both making a big deal :/ fucking stupid.
cringe
Stats 3 Rogue 1
Wait.....toss managed to beat zerg? No, this cant be right.
saying "QUOI?" is not very polite we prefer to say COMMENT? or PARDON?