I just got a Lumix LX5 and I really appreciate it. I know it's over 10 years old. I like collecting older ones that still take great pictures and were top in their day.
Thanks for always asking the questions I would ask-and providing answers. I was impressed with my GR IIIx, but I didn’t want to carry it in a pants pocket. I was nervous the thin little lens cover blades would get bent or broken, or dust would get in the camera. Then I realized if I was always going to put it in a bag I might as well carry my GX850 with another lens or two. The GX850 has better AF and a tilting screen. I like the LUMIX 20/1.7 and 14/2.5. So many good cameras, so little time. Thanks again. ✌️👏👍
Thanks for sharing. I seldom put the GR in my pocket, I hold it in my hand so it's ready all the time. Your are right, too many good cameras and too little time😀
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have the XF10 and its great point and shoot. Images are razor sharp in every aperture. You have the simulations, its tiny and the flash is great for the parties to have the 90s film look. I am never selling that camera. It even risen on price lately. I bought it for 330 eur second hand.
I love my GR3x, it’s the right tool for the right job when that job presents itself. And for those who say it’s only a snapshot camera is to downplay their art. Compositional considerations don’t even need a camera, just your eye, then you decide on the right tool to capture the image. Are there alternatives? Yup, I’ve tried and liked them all but the GR hangs with me without the baggage. Hey, if the camera becomes the end result, then the GR or any of its alternatives, just becomes another expensive paperweight. Thanks Matti, love your subject material. Very relevant.
Despite the zoom lens, you can set the LX100ii to a specific focal length which the camera remembers when you turn it off and back on again. In this way, you have something approximating a fixed focal length camera while retaining the option to zoom when you wish. I also like the manual controls on the LX100ii and the fact that you can see the camera settings without turning it on. That said, the GRIII has replaced my LX100ii as a street and small general purpose camera because the ergonomics and useability are better overall for me.
@@mattisulanto I agree that the zoom is frustrating. When shooting I keep mine on with the LCD off and EVF turned on. Not ideal but it helps to be ready to get the shot rather than waiting for the lens to emerge like a tortoise from his shell
For me, an articulating or at least a tilting screen is a must. There are countless occasions when I used the articulating screen on my old Canon G12 to take discreet pictures without being noticed. I like the Fujifilm X30, which takes good pictures, although it's somewhat heavy and bulky. I recently acquired a Lumix LX10, which I like, so far. It fits in my pocket and takes good pictures.
I am a M4/3 shooter that came from APS-C around 2011. I often use a GX85 with pancake lenses for street photography. When I need something pocketable, I turn to my LF1 and LX10. The LX10 can remember the last zoom position and in aperture priority at f/4.0 you can basically point and shoot with no fuss. The lack of EVF is no issue since I find that I only use the EVF on my larger M4/3 camers like the G95 and G9. An LX10 or RX100 VA would be all the camera that most people need.
very nice selection of cameras to have fun with! If i could give myself an advise (some decades ago) it would be: don't aim to find the perfect camera and get lost in a deficit view. it's a ride and you are "in progress". It's the challenge that forces you to grow and it's convenience that bores you and let's you loose interest... People like you and Robin helped me to realize this stuff! thank you Specs might help to identify the "best" camera, but i would not have ended up with three Pentax Q Cameras because of "technical wow data" true for jobs i still tend to take the bigger sensors but it's impressive how happy most clients are with the 12 MP pictures from a 1/1.7 inch sensor in between the big sensor pictures... now one cares if it's a "telling" picture
I have been using the Fuji X70 as my 'second' camera and it is full of Fuji goodness with an XTrans 2 sensor if that’s your thing. It is pricey used, but a great small pocketable camera with a flip up/down/forward screen that is very handy but no viewfinder.
Great video. I put together my own budget "GR3" by finding a used Olympus PEN EPL-6 (that only had only 900 shutter activations), with a M. Zuiko 17 mm 2.8 fixed lens. Together they were less than $300. One day I hope to buy the beautiful and extremely pricey Fujifilm X Pro 3 for my shutter therapy.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 The camera you bought was a good choice, but it's certainly not compact. You may want to just get a nice compact 50mm f1.8 lens for it as that would handle much better and is very versatile and fast enough for low light shooting. If you want to get a smaller body, you could downsize from full frame to APS-C. A Sony APS-C Alpha 6600 would be awesome, and you can still use e-mount full frame lenses (as your your Tamron 24-70 2.8 is a great lens!)
An option in place of the XF10 is the Fujifilm X70. I have been using it for years. It's about as good as the GRII. With 16mp it's got pretty good resolution at f4 and up, the f2.8 works best at 1-2m. Plus you get a flip up selfie screen for holiday selfies with the family, as well as saving your back on awkward shooting angles of children and pets, or for creative angles. You should immediately put a filter on the lens though. Mine got dirt on the sensor in the first week because I put in my pocket before I got the filter. With the filter, no more extra dirt.
I went a similar route: The Fuji X-M1. Xtrans 1 sensor (same as the Xpro1). Interchangeable lenses. I have a couple pancake lenses for it. And it's pretty tiny. Along the lines of the XF10, and smaller than the X70. Cool little camera. [edit... NM, it's a tiny bit bigger than the X-70]
@@-grey ya, I have a hunch this next go around they might do a small X-camera. They haven't released an Xpro in awhile. The X100v is a few years old now. I feel like they're working on something. They must be well aware of the X70 prices (and XM1 prices aren't cheap either). At least I hope. There's certainly a market for small X lens cameras.
Hi, I love to use the lumux gm1 with 14mm lens for street photography. The advantage vs the ricoh is that I can change to an other focal lenght if I'm going to shoit portraits for example and still have a very tiny package.
Thank you Matti for another entertaining and informative video!👍🏻 Looking at your video made me realise that I have too many small cameras: GRii, GRiii, XF10, Nikon Coolpix A (this lens renders soo beautifully!), LX100, LX100ii, x100F and X100V. Add to this bunch GX9+15 f1.7. I love them all! Regards!
The Ricoh GXR is also a great alternative, especially with the A12 (Leica M) or Ricoh 28mm modules. It has an accessory VF2 viewfinder but overall it’s a bit larger than the GR series.
Fixed focal length vs. zoom: I know what you mean. There is freedom in having just one fixed lens. It means you are forced to move more but I have found that most walk-around photos can be taken using a 35mm equiv. lens. My Lumix 12-32 (24-64) is nice but not essential. On one trip I took the Oly 17 f1.8 and Lumix 35-100 f4-5.6. That was a nice combo because for those times I needed some reach, I had the 35-100. Those plus my GX9 are little to carry. On another trip I had the 14-140 and, although I like that lens a lot, I didn't enjoy using it as much as a prime. Too many options and it was big. I was a tourist and I looked like one 🙂
A few holidays ago,.i thought about this and went for the Oly tg-6, just because it has some features i am familiar with. I know it has a smaller megapixel count, but i was not planning to print. I just wanted to gather memories. I accept.it has some limitations, but the combination of ruggedness and Oly features attracted me
I recently got a used LX100 mark 1 for only $150 Canadian. It's really fun to use. The image quality for both photos and video, the battery life and autofocus performance are all very good by today's standards. Definitely a good recommendation.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
My ultimate alternative: The Ricoh GX200! It's basically a Ricoh GR Digital 2 or 3 with a zoom lens and there's an optional electronic viewfinder. It's old tech by now but it has a 12 MP CCD sensor that shoots RAW and excellent SOOC monochrome images. And it features the same form factor and layout as the more expensive fixed lens Ricohs.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Matti, I recently purchased the GR111X and I agree it’s not cheap. HOWEVER, you’re getting a whole lot of camera for the money. It’s light, inconspicuous, takes incredibly sharp pictures and allows you to photograph in RAW or JPEG. So far, I’m very impressed with the GR111X. Thank you for this comparison video…coffee is on its way!
Wish for a view finder and weather sealing. However, I would buy a monochrome version anyway! You’ve helped me think about fixed prime instead of zoom and the simplicity.
I have shot with both the GR III and IIIx, as well as every Fuji X100 version, and they are all very capable cameras and produce wonderful images. However, I no longer have any of them, and instead recently purchased a gently used Leica Q2 Monochrom. I am blown away! Sure, the price is high (I would NOT pay full retail for it), but you definitely get what you pay for! If you have the financial means, I highly recommend checking one out (either the Monochrom or the color Q2, which costs less). On the other hand, if money is an issue, then you can't go wrong with either the Ricoh or Fuji offerings.
I've been using the GR3 for about 2 years now. Keep in mind that the GR3 is very specialized. It's designed to be a "snap shot" camera. The preferred way to use the GR3 is one handed, with snap focus. Just point the camera at the subject, and push the shutter. You don't even necessarily have to compose the shot. Point, shoot, and walk on. If necessary the picture can be tidied up in post. The goal is to capture a moment, an event, not to create a pleasing image. Snap focus is decisive here. The split second saved over auto focus is crucial. If you prefer to work this way, the GR series is unique. There is no alternative. The tiny, plain looking body with a fixed, wide angle lens simply completes the package.
The Fuji XF10 has a similar snap focus feature. I don’t own a GR, but to my understanding that feature is pretty customizable on them, whereas on the Fuji you only have two presets. But the option is there. I imagine you could do the same shooting in manual mode on any of the other cameras listed in this video as well.
Not entirely true. There are alternatives, but only the GR is unique in the fact that it has the option to choose snap via its shutter button. You can do almost exactly the same with an Olympus OM-D, but you need to program this change using a separate switch.
Hi, I have the Sony zv1 and rx100 IV . Also own a Canon g9x ll and used them in street photography. Although they have zoom lenses, you don't have to use them. I only use the widest angle and they respond quite fast.
Nice options thanks for your work! In a more affordable way, i'd say: _ Ricoh GXR+S10 and Ricoh CX5/6: killer options for street and candid (and i'd say also that CXs are f....n underrated) _ Sony RX100 mark I (i glued a cold shoe on mine, then a KMZ turret viewfinder as a companion...this combo in term of perf/price/compactness is unbeatable imo) _ Nikon P7xxx (love the 7100...CCD has that Thing) bigger, but outstanding optical performance _ Sigma DP1 slow, quircky, but man if you need archi stills or no motion atmosphere...that apsc foveon is...mmmhhhpphhh _ Fujifilm X-M1/X-E1: X-trans v1.0, lenses all over the place, rangefinder style, not too big, top notch picture quality and film simulations are really filmic when others are filmish 😅 Can't go wrong with those imo
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I use a compact Lumix LX-15 for a ‘carry anywhere’ camera. No need to ‘zoom’ if you don’t want to, but it has so many features if you need them. And I always also buy used from mpb or WEX in the UK. No need to spend £thousands!
I own that one LX10 for the last 5 years; it is a tiny cinematic beast. I have always mounted it on a zhiyun crame M ever since plus a ND8 or ND 16 filter and boom!
Thanks for the video! I have an Rx100VII, but I am shopping for a similar camera with a faster lens. I think the Leica D-Lux 7 is another alternative in this range.
An informative overview, pleasantly presented. The RX100 (v1) was my first non-phone camera. I'm still surprised and impressed by the image quality, and (unscientifically) feel that the video stabilization is better than my more "serious" Sonys. But it's true that the interface can be clunky, and the lack of viewfinder has me constantly pressing my eye up to the screen like an idiot. Great results from a highly pocketable camera, though!
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I had the xf10 and wish I had it back. Loved most things about it. Images wear wonderful and the size and price were perfect. It suffered badly from a slow processor and was missing some basic features. Auto focus was not very good. I use half pressed shutter button for focusing. Unfortunately after taking a photo I couldn't bring the button back to half pressed to maintain focus. Refocusing was frustrating because the age was bad. Fuji should update it to modern standard and make it more functional. I think they would really compete with the GR series.
The sharpness and resolving power of the lens, means you can crop in significantly before quality starts to drop off. More so than more expensive lens DSLR combinations.
I've owned and used most of the cameras you discuss, at the moment my favourite ultra-portable camera is the ZV-1 mainly because it's very capable for both and stills and video and it's CHEAP! I bought mine second-hand, in mint conditions, for a song. And its AF is just fantastic, it knows what I should focus on better than I...
Less than a year ago I managed to get a used Sony RX1R. I paid it less than what a brand new Ricoh GR 3 would cost. If you can find a used Sony RX1R used cheaper than a Ricoh GR 3, I would definitely recommend you should buy as an alternative to the Ricoh. It is a much older camera with a 24 megapixel full frame sensor and a fantastic fixed lens made by Zeiss. You can get extremely sharp photos with an image quality which is definitely superior to that of a Ricoh GR 3 or 3x.
Thanks. I'm familiar with the RX1R and it's a very nice camera indeed. Hard to find used though, so you were lucky. Also much bigger that the GR3/x, not a pocket camera by any means.
My alternative is the Canon G5X Mark II. Great for when I want to travel light but still have a quality camera that is good for a wide variety of situations. The flip out screen allows for waist level shooting to be less conspicuous on the street. It has a fast 1.8-2.8 lens, a wide focal length range of 24-120 equivalent, and a pop-up EVF. I do get the appeal of a lens with a single focal length, as I've often shot with a DSLR with a pancake lens. But that is certainly not compact compared to the GRIII. Thanks.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I love my GRIII, perfect for a stealth Camera, just plint and shoot. I still use my Panasonic GX9 with a 15mm (30mm FF) and 12-60 as a travel/street Camera, A Nikon Z6II with a prime 28, 35, 50 mm is another story, but work great for street-, lifestyle and city scape. Thanks for inspiration, having a photo walk tomorrow😊
Hello, I use (not at the same time) three cameras for street photography, the Fujifilm X70 with optical viewfinder accessory and the screen off (this setup is the closest thing to me to analog camera); the Fujifilm XE2s with 27mm or 18mm lenses, sometimes with pentax 110 lenses; and the Olympus Pen F with the Panasonic Leica 15mm 1.7 (gorgeous B&W). The most pocketable, X70; best autofocus, Pen F (and best B&W), at least for me. Saludos from Mexico City.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Sony ZV1F is fixed wide lens with digital zoom also if you set 1:1 and its experience is closer to a 35mm lens. Youll love the FN button to switch to manual focus once you set the focus distance similar to the gr
My street kit consists of an Olympus EM10 MKII with either a Panasonic 20mm 1.7 or Panasonic 14mm 1.7. The set up is small enough and versatile enough for my needs. Thanks for the video, a great subject to discuss.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
All good camera’s no remarks on that. I use now for several years the Olympus Pen F with the pancake 14-42mm with a superb quality and handy size. It can be said that is also a perfect camera for street photographers on my opinion.
I agree with what you said about the GR III and hope Ricoh doesn’t add a built-in non removable view finder in the next-gen. Your list covers all that I had in mind plus the Panasonic ZS200. I like the LX100 II but too bad the sensor area is not completely used.
Thanks. I also like the compact form factor and would not like extras that make the camera much bigger. The size is one of the best things in the GR and makes it unique.
@@mattisulanto absolutely my friend. Love the form factor of the GR III. Such a pleasure camera to use. I may get the IIIX eventually to complement the III 😃
I have a PEN E-PL1, and it's actually pretty big compared to an NEX3. An old NEX 3/5 would give you a bigger sensor, more MP, and more lens options than MFT, at least over older PENs.
If that's your jam, an a5100 is going to be a better option than the Nex. It added the 24mp sensor and hybrid autofocus of the a6000 into the a5000 body - which itself was based on the nex 5 body. That gives you the most feature packed and high spec option for a super compact APSC shooter at an approx. $100-200 pricepoint (depending on how lucky/patient you are). Pair it with a 20mm pancake lens (or the16mm, but I hear that has terrible image quality) for another $200 and you have an insanely compact, insanely cheap alternative to the Ricoh at a fraction of the cost that also has technological parity and a better autofocus for around $300.
@@JimIBobIJonesThe problem is with lenses. The Sigma 19, 30 and 60 are the smaller lenses for the e mount that are actually good in image quality. But then they become quite a bit bigger as compared to GR.
@@byhyew all compact lenses trade off sharpness and fidelity for portability. The Ricoh is no exception. The Sony 20mm f2.8 is pretty good though, much sharper than the 16mm
@@JimIBobIJones I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Tilting screen, EVF, interchangeable lenses, analogue controls are a must for me... No problem at 74 to walk a day long with my A7II or G9 and not shy in street photography. But there is a choice for all tastes I see that with the couples walking on the street. :-)
I've used the Canon EOS M for over 8 years and I like it, especially the touch screen shutter release. It can be set to manual focus and if you focus it to about 10 feet you can shoot a lot of things instantly, but I find it focuses fast enough most of the time. Quite often I shoot that with the 22mm (35mm equivalent) f2 lens but I like the kit zoom too. I still shoot the old Canon EOS 40d if I need speed and they can be had on the used market for less than $100. I picked up an S95 a couple of years ago and use that at the 28mm equivalent quite a bit {f/2) you can set the focus manually on that one too.
Nice video. I've been using various older cameras such as the Canon G11, M2, and even my older SD550. I also use other compact film cameras such as the Olympus mju and my Minolta Freedom Zoom. As much as I would like to find a GR III alternative, I can't and feel there's always a compromise somewhere. I will eventually invest in a GR III for simplicity, speed, and size.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I agree about the GRIII/X cameras and are now my street choice. Feather light, inconspicuous and great image quality. Price is always relative and I was happy to pay. I have the Urban Edition which seems less "plasticky" and feels more robust than the standard version so it feels like a tough cookie if I knock it on something. I also have a Fuji X-T3 for other types of photography where I don't necessarily need the small form factor. I love the Fuji film simulations which are just lovely so I also tried the X100T and later the X100V but the larger form factor for street meant that I sold them on to buy the GRs.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Perceptions are everything. People see a small fixed lens camera and think point and shoot then question the price. Your simple explanation of the GR being a quality sensor in compact body with an excellent prime lens is the best summary I've heard to explain the relative 'value' of the GR. Street photography lends itself to the use of a small fixed lens camera like the GR. In other situations we may need a different cam and lens. So choose the camera that best suits your personal needs. PS: I hate changing lenses. Excellent video, thanks.
Fuji XF10 is the greatest overlooked sleeper. I've had mine for a few years and I believe it is every bit as good as a GR. It's APS-C and produces amazing images. If it had a viewfinder it would be the best street camera. Even after a few years I still don't enjoy taking pictures with just a screen.
I have a rx100v and it's a fantastic camera, I agree the zoom is a problem sometimes in term of velocity , but I sometimes need it. I had a fuji x100t and that fixed lens and short battery capability always drove me mad, the rx100v for me is a big leap ahead
You can’t go wrong with the Lumix GX80 with a bright compact lens, even its kit lens is nice and sharp. A 15 to 20mm f1.8 prime would also be great. It has an EVF, a tilting touch sensitive LCD with a super menu system, lots of practical and fun features and functions, in-body stabilisation that works with some lens’s stabilisation. Also a superb soft shutter and 4K photo pre-burst and burst plus panning and zooming functions. What’s not to like? Personally, as the user of many cameras, including a Leica D-Lux 7 007 edition, the GX80 and an OMD E-M10 Mk2, the only advantage I see for the GR3 is its pocketability. It has a smooth compact case that means it slides out of smaller pockets than other cameras. My solution is to buy clothes with pockets which allow the GX80 if not the Leica [Lumix LX100 Mk2]. Of those two the GX80 has several advantages including compactness but all, including the Ricoh GR3 I’m sure, are a delight to use in their unique ways.
Lumix GX/GM not available in India. I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
GR and X100 have a unique feature... leaf shutter that eliminates any high-speed sync flash issues when you want to light up your subject in a bright scene. That and the internal ND filter make these two peerless. Street photography kings.
Fuji x-e4 is the most obvious alternative, and it’s even with interchangeable lenses… the new version of the pancake 27 mm lens, often bought with the camera as a bundle, is a nice compact solution.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
My choice is the Canon M200 with 22mm f2 lens. It has an 24 megapixel APS-C sensor with dual pixel autofocus. It is even smaller than my Lumix GX85 and takes brilliant images. Thanks for sharing.
I have been wondering to get M200. I have M50 but it would be nice sometimes to have something smaller. I do have the original M but that is so obsolete. M200 is basically same as M50 but in a different form factor.
Hi, I really do like your channel, that's why I have subscribed some time ago. But, and please don't get me wrong... at the end of the video you are saying that your Ricohs are the best for you, better than any of the alternatives you have described. How that if you have NEVER used the Fujifilm XF10??? As a photographer, I have to tell you that XF10 is by far superior for various reasons like flash, battery life, sturdiness and so on... But, no problem, just maybe in the future don't compare or give statements without using a certain camera prior to it, thank you 🤜🤛👍
I take my words back, maybe the XF10 could be better😀 I hope that makes you feel better. But I also said multiple times in the video, that it's only my opinion. I don't expect you or everyone else to share my opinions. Just like your opinion is yours and maybe I don't share the same opinion. If you think the XF10 is far superior camera, it's fine by me. I have nothing against your opinion even if you had no experience with any other camera. I'm happy for you because you have found a camera that you really like. I respect your opinion and I think it would be boring if we all agreed on everything. These are just cameras and everyone has a favorite one, but not necessarily the same one😀
@sulantoblog Thanks for the respond 🤩 well, to be honest, I do have an extensive experience with every camera mentioned in your video. You see, for us they are tools and I kept only the XF10. Give it a go, the camera deserves your qualified opinion since it's, from the photographers point of view the most serious and complete one, even for professional work as I can assure you! Keep up the good work 👏 😍🤜🤛
@@KarloFio thanks for sharing! I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Don't forget the Panasonic ZS series and Canon G5X II. Both are competitors to the RX100 series, with 1" sensors and zoom lenses. A niche choice would be a Nikon 1 J5 and 10/2.8, equivalent to 27mm. About the same size as an RX100, same excellent sensor from some of the RX100s, decent controls, and an ILC lens mount. The 10mm is also pretty slim. If you need a viewfinder, there's the Nikon 1 V3, which has an optional EVF (and grip with a dial, custom button, and shutter). Otherwise, it's a small camera close to LX100 size. About the RX100's zoom "issue", you can set a memory recall to also recall the focal length. So every time you turn the camera on, it will zoom to that one specific focal length from the start. Another option available on that camera is the ability to zoom directly to common focal lengths. So you can use the control dial around the lens, turn it, and it will go 24 -> 28 -> 35 -> 50 etc. Gets rid of those middle focal lengths, and "organizes" the number of focal lengths you have to choose from.
Thanks for the instuctive video. I like to take street photos with the rear screen up, a bit like using an old twin-lens reflex camera. So the GRiii's are not so good for me. I have the Canon M6 ii with an EF-M 22mm f2 lens, which gives a FF equivalent of a standard 35mm, somewhere between the GR iii and GR iiix. The body is a bit thicker and heavier than the GR iii's but you get a 32MP APSC sensor, fast auto focus, and when you need it you can add the excellent EVF. All for about the same price as a GR iii. The camera also supports interchangeable lenses which also makes this a good all-rounder.
When I was first considering the price of the GRIII, I thought about how having a built-for-purpose dedicated camera in my pocket would allow me to buy a phone that didn't need the flag ship camera hardware. I have a $200 phone and $1000 camera that I'm happy with. Rather than a $1000+ phone that just doesn't quite meet my expectations. I don't feel like I'm missing anything from either device, but I feel like I spent the money in the best place for each need. That said, not everyone is a good match for the GR, so it's possible you could achieve the same happy result for less money still. ✌️
this comment should go viral and everyone on the internet should see this. I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Is there a 1 inch sensor camera that is like the phased out but ahead of its time lumix cm-1? It had a fixed elmarit lens that was very sharp and full of contrast and character
Love this video 🙂I tend to think the compact set up is as good as what gets you out there to enjoy taking photos (whatever inspires you to shoot) 🙂 Currently I use the Fuji and Olympus Cameras as my compact set ups. For Fuji I use X-E1 with 27 F2.8 lens and Olympus I try to choose between my Olympus E-PM2 and E-PL8 with VF4 view finder and the Panasonic 20mm F1.7 lens or 12mm F1.4 lens 🙂
I've used many of the cameras you've mentioned here. Both GR and LX100 can be prone to dust which is a pain. I love the image quality of the GR and it is truly a pocket camera whereas the LX100 is more a coat pocket/small bag camera. I think the Sony RX100 is a good pocket camera but over-priced for what it is and Sony menus just don't make them enjoyable to use. An affordable alternative which is truly pocketable, 1" sensor and a viewfinder is TZ100 (ZS100). It produces way better images than my phone camera and is easy to have on me all the time even in a jeans pocket. Isn't always in stock but I recently picked one up for my daughter brand new for $400.
The Olympus PEN PL-8, with the feel of metal in hand, and a Lumix 14mm, or even the Olympus 25mm is one tiny, yet powerful combo. My favorite go to camera these days is the Lumix GX-9, with an Olympus 25mm, Lumix 30mm macro, Olympus 45mm, or even the little Lumix 14mm on it. Rare times the 12-60mm comes into the scene, but for say an outdoor music event, that zoom is handy. The Lumix GX-9 is so fast to focus and so accurate, with a great lock-in of focus for sharp, yet splint second action, I rank it tops. It will rarely miss. The Canon RP, which I have, using the low-end lenses, is great, but can miss the quick shots focus wise. Really, I do not see much of an advantage to Ricoh GR III or IIIx over the Lumix GX-9, other than size and weight. The Ricoh APS-C sensor I understand to be pretty darn good, but do we have any miss-focused shots? And the battery is even smaller than the Lumix. A super light camera does sound interesting however. And tiny enough to pocket, is interesting. My PEN PL-8 is pretty small as well. The Fujifilm XE-4 falls into the class of tiny rangefinder styled cameras -- priced like the Ricoh. Of course the biggest factor in photography is the human. We need not have yet another high quality image of nothing in our lives. Have fun, Loren
I want to second the Fuji XE body. I own the XE1 and recently purchased the 27 (40 full frame equivalent f2.8)mm pancake lens. A small and powerful combination. Also true of the XE2-4. About the same size as the GR. I also am a Panasonic GX9 shooter with the PL 15mm lens. Smaller than the GR. Better IBIS. Video is much better. Tilty screen. EVF is a giant plus for me. Both of these bodies I use and endorse. My opinion of the GRiiiX is pending. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
@@martingreenberg870 thanks for sharing I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 There are many choices for a compact camera system to learn photography. They are all good. You need to decide how much money you want to spend. What size sensor size? I like M43 because of the many small and lightweight bodies and lenses that are inexpensive. I just bought a GX85 & 9. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Another option is the X-M1 with X-Trans sensor, or the Bayer equivalent X-A1. If you don't mind a smaller sensor, there's the X10, older GR digital series, and Lumix LX 5, 7, etc.
I have (had) a few of the mentioned alternatives and never saw these as an alternative for my Ricoh GR. Some stand out features from the Ricoh GR line: Easy one handed operation, snap focus, small/light, discrete, customizability, APS-C sensor. Unless you stay within the GR line, there will be some compromises to the point that it's not really an alternative anymore. Still have the Ricoh GR from 2013 and love it and use it. Fast operation, images are sharp, even at f2.8. Only low light performance is a bit lacking, but there is a flash, which the GR III does not have. Still have a X100 (original) and don't use it that much. It's an inspiring camera, but definitely not a GR alternative. Recently bought the Lumix LX100 II and sold it again (it's ok, but I expected better/faster performance) I have had the Sony RX100 (original) and sold it (I really didn't like to use it, such a bad UI)
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I used to carry the GX85 or GX8 with the 20mm 1.7 lens before I bought my GR3x. Now the GR3x is always with me when I leave the house. That said, the lack of tilting or rotating screen, prevent a lot of angles to shoot from that would be more interesting if I would've brought one of the Lumix cameras. That's really my only complaint, and I couldn't be happier with my decision to purchase the Ricoh.
I am about to pick up the Nikon Coolpix A. 16mp apsc sensor and FF eq 28mm lens. Rugged metal build and weather protection. And perfect size to fit in a pocket.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 I really appreciated my small Olympus EM5 with the 17mm. Which in full frame is about like a 35mm lens. You learn how to compose by moving in or out from the subject. And just one focal length really in my mind was more fun. Just took the work out of it. And I feel I was more creative.
Hi Matti. I appreciate your channel; it's very informative. I'm intrigued by MFT Lumix GX880 / GF10. However, I don't see a control dial for Aperture/Shutter Speed. Can you please educate me on how you change Aperture/Shutter Speed on this camera. Thank you.
I still have the very first (!) Sony RX100 which i haven't used in years but I will try it on streetphotography for a while to see if I can deal with some things like size, 28mm and other things similar with the GRiii. The RX100 has the same size, no viewfinder, a fixed display, I can use it at only 28mm KB, I can use it MF (to fake the snapshot). I think its a good way to find out if spending 1000 € is worth it.
so what did you find out? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I chose Canon M200 with the F2.0 22mm (35mm equiv) pancake lens. You can get both new for $800... a bit less, actually. The lens is super sharp wide open, and the camera provides a 24MP APS-C sensor with great AF and Canon's beautiful color science. It's really hard to beat!
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I would say the best direct comparison would be an MFT with Panasonic's 20mm f/1.7 (40mm equivalent, and faster than the GRIII). With the older panasonic GF cameras, there is a hot shoe electronic viewfinder, and though it works, it's very low resolution, but good for sunny days. The Olympus Pen F is a great camera, but it's larger and heavier. The best thing about the Pen F, though, is that you can fold away the screen and force yourself to only use the EVF, which is very comfortable and good. It's much more like using an old rangefinder. Panasonic has two newer cameras with built in EVF that I'd check out for this too, the GX85 and the GX9, though both are about twice as heavy as the GRIII. There is another camera, fixed lens, but with manual zoom and not that slow zoom in back and forth on a rocker switch: The Fujifilm X20. Yes, it's old, but it has a cool optical viewfinder, and is very fast to use. And you twist the zoom ring to turn on the camera! I compared some cameras to the GRIII, and even the tiny battery in the X20 has a better battery life (CIPA) than the GRIII, which came last at 200, with the X20 at 270. Since it can shoot without screen, and just the optical viewfinder, I'm sure it can be extended quite a lot. It is a little heavier, though, but only slightly bigger. And it has a tiny pop up flash that reaches 7m (1m longer than any of the panasonics!). I've only had mine for a short time, and haven't really had time to try it out doing street, but I didn't realize it was this high spec compared to the others! I think I'll have to 3D print a ring I can put on the zoom ring with a lever like on compact rangefinders, so that when it points straight down, I'm at 40mm equivalent! (My favorite camera ever is the QL17 GIII).
thank you for this video. I have watched and aware of this Ricoh GR III since a few years ago when it came out. However, I cannot justify spending $ 1000 for it. I do own 2 canon SLRs (70D/100) and almost all STM lenses,canon S95, canon powershotpro1, LX 10, Lumix Zs220, GoPros, DJi drone, gimbals but recently have been resisting jumping to the IPhone of my wife for ease of use during travel. I am still holding out by contemplating going to fuji XS10 or its successor . Thank you for this video again. Anyway my old Canon 100D is APSC and I have a 24mm 2.8 STM lens. Im sure this is nowhere near an alternative.
so what do you use nowadays? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I recent times I've used my GX9 + Oly 17 f1.8, that is a nice small combo. The 12-32 f3.5-5.6 is also nice when you need to zoom. I also have the X100V, it is a work of art. It is a bit bigger than the GX9 but the viewfinder is amazing. The X100V has a nice crop feature too, the lens is fixed at 35mn equiv. but you can crop to 50 or 70mm. Somehow the image quality looks fantastic, at least to my eyes. I think the GR has something similar, right? You are right about the EVF for the GR, why don't they make one like the Panasonic one from years ago, they had one for the GF1 aand GX1, it would even tilt up. By the way, one reason I haven't got a GR is the dust and wobbly back dial issues. I hope the GR4 will overcome those.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I am very happy going out with a solitary prime lens of my choice. A problem for me with the GR3 and the like is that the lens is not my choice. If I want a fisheye lens, tough. If I want Live ND, can the Ricoh do that? I used it Friday, on the street.
I'm not really a "street photographer" but I've had a lot of luck with my RX100M6 for travel. If you want to simulate the fixed lens experience, you can set a focal length in a memory setting so that when you power on the camera it goes directly to that focal length.
Perhaps you've had them the whole time, but I've just noticed your spectacles - which make and model are they? I've been superkeen to get a IIIx, but the price and availability have kept it at bay. Now, I'm hoping for a GR IIImx (monochrome). They should bring Daido back for a promo launch for mono. The Sigma fp with Leica TL18, or ttArtisans 28mmF5.6, or i17mm could make for a verssatile alternative. Also, there are two (big) VF options, almost unlimited lenses, and ssd-raw video etc, so it can certainly serve other roles, too. The fp L's CROP-ZOOM feature gives the best of both worlds regarding prime/zoom approaches, too (and mitigates the rolling shutter complaints if you check the table at Cine D for optimal crops). The GM1 drew my attention to m4/3, and when the GM5 became cheaper it led me to buy the GM5, GX8, G9 and S1R -- pretty much accidently switching me to Lumix (now L-mount) from Fuji X-Pro (which I still use and love, but just don't tend to buy into now). So, even though the GM-line was considered a flop, it led me to spend a huge amount on Lumix, Sigma and Leica.
P.S. not to mention giving the old cameras to relatives who now use Lumix. Which reminds me, the 35-100mmF4-5.6 MINIATURE ZOOM gave me an appreciation for zooms that I'd never had - I lent it to a relative, and never got it back, so may have to get another one.
Thanks for your tips - but in the end, all these cameras have too bulky (with the exception of the XF10, which really has a terrible autofocus.). The only one that can really be carried around all the time without being intrusive is the Ricoh. That might not matter to some, but for me, it's the difference between having it with me very often or just occasionally.
So the alternatives are all significantly more expensive if new, or, you can buy much older versions of the recommended cameras. Hmmm...I think I will just take my chances on the Ricoh.
I just got a Lumix LX5 and I really appreciate it. I know it's over 10 years old. I like collecting older ones that still take great pictures and were top in their day.
Thanks.
I also got one very cheaply, surprisingly good and really so tiny that you can always take it with you.
Thanks for always asking the questions I would ask-and providing answers. I was impressed with my GR IIIx, but I didn’t want to carry it in a pants pocket. I was nervous the thin little lens cover blades would get bent or broken, or dust would get in the camera. Then I realized if I was always going to put it in a bag I might as well carry my GX850 with another lens or two. The GX850 has better AF and a tilting screen. I like the LUMIX 20/1.7 and 14/2.5. So many good cameras, so little time. Thanks again. ✌️👏👍
Thanks for sharing. I seldom put the GR in my pocket, I hold it in my hand so it's ready all the time. Your are right, too many good cameras and too little time😀
I like the Lumix 20/1.7 too, very sharp ( alas not allow in CF mode ).
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have the XF10 and its great point and shoot. Images are razor sharp in every aperture. You have the simulations, its tiny and the flash is great for the parties to have the 90s film look. I am never selling that camera. It even risen on price lately. I bought it for 330 eur second hand.
Thanks. Seems like a decent value for that price.
I love my GR3x, it’s the right tool for the right job when that job presents itself. And for those who say it’s only a snapshot camera is to downplay their art. Compositional considerations don’t even need a camera, just your eye, then you decide on the right tool to capture the image. Are there alternatives? Yup, I’ve tried and liked them all but the GR hangs with me without the baggage. Hey, if the camera becomes the end result, then the GR or any of its alternatives, just becomes another expensive paperweight. Thanks Matti, love your subject material. Very relevant.
loved your insight!
Despite the zoom lens, you can set the LX100ii to a specific focal length which the camera remembers when you turn it off and back on again. In this way, you have something approximating a fixed focal length camera while retaining the option to zoom when you wish. I also like the manual controls on the LX100ii and the fact that you can see the camera settings without turning it on. That said, the GRIII has replaced my LX100ii as a street and small general purpose camera because the ergonomics and useability are better overall for me.
Thanks for the tip. I'm aware of the features you mention, but still the zoom somehow tends to turn me off. I know, I'm difficult😀
@@mattisulanto I agree that the zoom is frustrating. When shooting I keep mine on with the LCD off and EVF turned on. Not ideal but it helps to be ready to get the shot rather than waiting for the lens to emerge like a tortoise from his shell
🙏 i miss info about flipscreen like fujifilm x70. Thanks
Thanks for your support.
For me, an articulating or at least a tilting screen is a must. There are countless occasions when I used the articulating screen on my old Canon G12 to take discreet pictures without being noticed. I like the Fujifilm X30, which takes good pictures, although it's somewhat heavy and bulky. I recently acquired a Lumix LX10, which I like, so far. It fits in my pocket and takes good pictures.
I am a M4/3 shooter that came from APS-C around 2011. I often use a GX85 with pancake lenses for street photography. When I need something pocketable, I turn to my LF1 and LX10. The LX10 can remember the last zoom position and in aperture priority at f/4.0 you can basically point and shoot with no fuss. The lack of EVF is no issue since I find that I only use the EVF on my larger M4/3 camers like the G95 and G9. An LX10 or RX100 VA would be all the camera that most people need.
I'm a recent convert to the Lumix GX85. I love it, but that doesn't stop me from also wanting a GRIII and/or Fuji XF10! 😄
Thanks. We all keep wanting something and there is no cure for that😀
I'm in love with Ricoh GRIII and Leica Q. Now with your channel too.
Thank you!
Ricoh GXR, still my favorite camera. Sharp prime lenses, small body, electronic viewfinder, fully featured and easy to use menus.
Thanks. I have never used the GXR, but would be nice to try it out one day.
very nice selection of cameras to have fun with!
If i could give myself an advise (some decades ago) it would be: don't aim to find the perfect camera and get lost in a deficit view. it's a ride and you are "in progress". It's the challenge that forces you to grow and it's convenience that bores you and let's you loose interest... People like you and Robin helped me to realize this stuff! thank you
Specs might help to identify the "best" camera, but i would not have ended up with three Pentax Q Cameras because of "technical wow data"
true for jobs i still tend to take the bigger sensors but it's impressive how happy most clients are with the 12 MP pictures from a 1/1.7 inch sensor in between the big sensor pictures... now one cares if it's a "telling" picture
Thanks so much for your kind words.
I have been using the Fuji X70 as my 'second' camera and it is full of Fuji goodness with an XTrans 2 sensor if that’s your thing. It is pricey used, but a great small pocketable camera with a flip up/down/forward screen that is very handy but no viewfinder.
yeah but 600 used is to much if I´m honest
Great video. I put together my own budget "GR3" by finding a used Olympus PEN EPL-6 (that only had only 900 shutter activations), with a M. Zuiko 17 mm 2.8 fixed lens. Together they were less than $300. One day I hope to buy the beautiful and extremely pricey Fujifilm X Pro 3 for my shutter therapy.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 The camera you bought was a good choice, but it's certainly not compact. You may want to just get a nice compact 50mm f1.8 lens for it as that would handle much better and is very versatile and fast enough for low light shooting.
If you want to get a smaller body, you could downsize from full frame to APS-C. A Sony APS-C Alpha 6600 would be awesome, and you can still use e-mount full frame lenses (as your your Tamron 24-70 2.8 is a great lens!)
An option in place of the XF10 is the Fujifilm X70. I have been using it for years. It's about as good as the GRII. With 16mp it's got pretty good resolution at f4 and up, the f2.8 works best at 1-2m. Plus you get a flip up selfie screen for holiday selfies with the family, as well as saving your back on awkward shooting angles of children and pets, or for creative angles.
You should immediately put a filter on the lens though. Mine got dirt on the sensor in the first week because I put in my pocket before I got the filter. With the filter, no more extra dirt.
I went a similar route: The Fuji X-M1. Xtrans 1 sensor (same as the Xpro1). Interchangeable lenses. I have a couple pancake lenses for it. And it's pretty tiny. Along the lines of the XF10, and smaller than the X70. Cool little camera. [edit... NM, it's a tiny bit bigger than the X-70]
@@-grey ya, I have a hunch this next go around they might do a small X-camera. They haven't released an Xpro in awhile. The X100v is a few years old now. I feel like they're working on something. They must be well aware of the X70 prices (and XM1 prices aren't cheap either). At least I hope. There's certainly a market for small X lens cameras.
Hi, I love to use the lumux gm1 with 14mm lens for street photography. The advantage vs the ricoh is that I can change to an other focal lenght if I'm going to shoit portraits for example and still have a very tiny package.
I use SONY RX1 for 8 years, and im very enjoyed. 24mp Fullframe, compact, palm size, 35mm f2 zeiss. 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you Matti for another entertaining and informative video!👍🏻 Looking at your video made me realise that I have too many small cameras: GRii, GRiii, XF10, Nikon Coolpix A (this lens renders soo beautifully!), LX100, LX100ii, x100F and X100V. Add to this bunch GX9+15 f1.7. I love them all! Regards!
Thanks. The Coolpix A is still a very nice camera.
The Ricoh GXR is also a great alternative, especially with the A12 (Leica M) or Ricoh 28mm modules. It has an accessory VF2 viewfinder but overall it’s a bit larger than the GR series.
Fixed focal length vs. zoom: I know what you mean. There is freedom in having just one fixed lens. It means you are forced to move more but I have found that most walk-around photos can be taken using a 35mm equiv. lens. My Lumix 12-32 (24-64) is nice but not essential. On one trip I took the Oly 17 f1.8 and Lumix 35-100 f4-5.6. That was a nice combo because for those times I needed some reach, I had the 35-100. Those plus my GX9 are little to carry. On another trip I had the 14-140 and, although I like that lens a lot, I didn't enjoy using it as much as a prime. Too many options and it was big. I was a tourist and I looked like one 🙂
A few holidays ago,.i thought about this and went for the Oly tg-6, just because it has some features i am familiar with. I know it has a smaller megapixel count, but i was not planning to print. I just wanted to gather memories. I accept.it has some limitations, but the combination of ruggedness and Oly features attracted me
I recently got a used LX100 mark 1 for only $150 Canadian. It's really fun to use. The image quality for both photos and video, the battery life and autofocus performance are all very good by today's standards. Definitely a good recommendation.
Thanks Seems like a great value for that price.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
My ultimate alternative: The Ricoh GX200!
It's basically a Ricoh GR Digital 2 or 3 with a zoom lens and there's an optional electronic viewfinder. It's old tech by now but it has a 12 MP CCD sensor that shoots RAW and excellent SOOC monochrome images. And it features the same form factor and layout as the more expensive fixed lens Ricohs.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Matti, I recently purchased the GR111X and I agree it’s not cheap. HOWEVER, you’re getting a whole lot of camera for the money. It’s light, inconspicuous, takes incredibly sharp pictures and allows you to photograph in RAW or JPEG. So far, I’m very impressed with the GR111X. Thank you for this comparison video…coffee is on its way!
Many thanks for the support.
All those cameras shoot raw
@@andreatilli6227 ABSOLUTELY! Have a major league day Andrea.
@@timothydalton8023 a major what ?
@@andreatilli6227 it just means have a good day my friend!
Wish for a view finder and weather sealing. However, I would buy a monochrome version anyway! You’ve helped me think about fixed prime instead of zoom and the simplicity.
Thanks! Happy to hear my tips have been helpful.
I have shot with both the GR III and IIIx, as well as every Fuji X100 version, and they are all very capable cameras and produce wonderful images. However, I no longer have any of them, and instead recently purchased a gently used Leica Q2 Monochrom. I am blown away! Sure, the price is high (I would NOT pay full retail for it), but you definitely get what you pay for! If you have the financial means, I highly recommend checking one out (either the Monochrom or the color Q2, which costs less). On the other hand, if money is an issue, then you can't go wrong with either the Ricoh or Fuji offerings.
Thanks. I have used the Q and I agree that it's a super nice camera, but right now a bit pricey for me.
Ei huonoo Matti. Oman kuvailujen alussa paljon sitä alkuperäistä blogiasi tuli seurailtua. Hienoa sisältöä!
Kiitos kehuista.
I've been using the GR3 for about 2 years now. Keep in mind that the GR3 is very specialized. It's designed to be a "snap shot" camera. The preferred way to use the GR3 is one handed, with snap focus. Just point the camera at the subject, and push the shutter. You don't even necessarily have to compose the shot. Point, shoot, and walk on. If necessary the picture can be tidied up in post. The goal is to capture a moment, an event, not to create a pleasing image. Snap focus is decisive here. The split second saved over auto focus is crucial. If you prefer to work this way, the GR series is unique. There is no alternative. The tiny, plain looking body with a fixed, wide angle lens simply completes the package.
Thanks for sharing your interesting opinion. I'd say, to each their own and whatever works for you.
I have had the GR for years… yes… snap focus but truly little skill needed. I get bored with it although the results are fascinating
The Fuji XF10 has a similar snap focus feature. I don’t own a GR, but to my understanding that feature is pretty customizable on them, whereas on the Fuji you only have two presets. But the option is there. I imagine you could do the same shooting in manual mode on any of the other cameras listed in this video as well.
Not entirely true. There are alternatives, but only the GR is unique in the fact that it has the option to choose snap via its shutter button. You can do almost exactly the same with an Olympus OM-D, but you need to program this change using a separate switch.
You can also just zone focus with any camera, and you'll have that same feature.
Hi, I have the Sony zv1 and rx100 IV . Also own a Canon g9x ll and used them in street photography. Although they have zoom lenses, you don't have to use them. I only use the widest angle and they respond quite fast.
Nice options thanks for your work! In a more affordable way, i'd say:
_ Ricoh GXR+S10 and Ricoh CX5/6: killer options for street and candid (and i'd say also that CXs are f....n underrated)
_ Sony RX100 mark I (i glued a cold shoe on mine, then a KMZ turret viewfinder as a companion...this combo in term of perf/price/compactness is unbeatable imo)
_ Nikon P7xxx (love the 7100...CCD has that Thing) bigger, but outstanding optical performance
_ Sigma DP1 slow, quircky, but man if you need archi stills or no motion atmosphere...that apsc foveon is...mmmhhhpphhh
_ Fujifilm X-M1/X-E1: X-trans v1.0, lenses all over the place, rangefinder style, not too big, top notch picture quality and film simulations are really filmic when others are filmish 😅
Can't go wrong with those imo
Thanks for sharing your options, all valid and can't go much wrong with any of those.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I use a compact Lumix LX-15 for a ‘carry anywhere’ camera. No need to ‘zoom’ if you don’t want to, but it has so many features if you need them. And I always also buy used from mpb or WEX in the UK. No need to spend £thousands!
I own that one LX10 for the last 5 years; it is a tiny cinematic beast. I have always mounted it on a zhiyun crame M ever since plus a ND8 or ND 16 filter and boom!
Thanks for the video! I have an Rx100VII, but I am shopping for a similar camera with a faster lens. I think the Leica D-Lux 7 is another alternative in this range.
An informative overview, pleasantly presented. The RX100 (v1) was my first non-phone camera. I'm still surprised and impressed by the image quality, and (unscientifically) feel that the video stabilization is better than my more "serious" Sonys. But it's true that the interface can be clunky, and the lack of viewfinder has me constantly pressing my eye up to the screen like an idiot. Great results from a highly pocketable camera, though!
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I had the xf10 and wish I had it back. Loved most things about it. Images wear wonderful and the size and price were perfect. It suffered badly from a slow processor and was missing some basic features. Auto focus was not very good. I use half pressed shutter button for focusing. Unfortunately after taking a photo I couldn't bring the button back to half pressed to maintain focus. Refocusing was frustrating because the age was bad.
Fuji should update it to modern standard and make it more functional. I think they would really compete with the GR series.
I just got the zv1 and am enjoying it, but someday may get a next gen apsc compact for lower light.
The sharpness and resolving power of the lens, means you can crop in significantly before quality starts to drop off. More so than more expensive lens DSLR combinations.
I've owned and used most of the cameras you discuss, at the moment my favourite ultra-portable camera is the ZV-1 mainly because it's very capable for both and stills and video and it's CHEAP! I bought mine second-hand, in mint conditions, for a song. And its AF is just fantastic, it knows what I should focus on better than I...
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Less than a year ago I managed to get a used Sony RX1R. I paid it less than what a brand new Ricoh GR 3 would cost. If you can find a used Sony RX1R used cheaper than a Ricoh GR 3, I would definitely recommend you should buy as an alternative to the Ricoh. It is a much older camera with a 24 megapixel full frame sensor and a fantastic fixed lens made by Zeiss. You can get extremely sharp photos with an image quality which is definitely superior to that of a Ricoh GR 3 or 3x.
Thanks. I'm familiar with the RX1R and it's a very nice camera indeed. Hard to find used though, so you were lucky. Also much bigger that the GR3/x, not a pocket camera by any means.
An excellent alternative is also the original GR, had mine since it came out, love it.
A used Ricoh Gr 1 or 2 would also be a great alternative.
Thanks. Yeah, I forgot all previous GRs.
I have the GR I and can't justify about 3x the price to get the III. It even has the inbuilt flash, although I rarely use it.
Yeah, I have the gr and I love it!
I strongly agree. GR ii’s positive film color science is leagues better.
My alternative is the Canon G5X Mark II. Great for when I want to travel light but still have a quality camera that is good for a wide variety of situations. The flip out screen allows for waist level shooting to be less conspicuous on the street. It has a fast 1.8-2.8 lens, a wide focal length range of 24-120 equivalent, and a pop-up EVF. I do get the appeal of a lens with a single focal length, as I've often shot with a DSLR with a pancake lens. But that is certainly not compact compared to the GRIII. Thanks.
Thanks.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I love my GRIII, perfect for a stealth Camera, just plint and shoot. I still use my Panasonic GX9 with a 15mm (30mm FF) and 12-60 as a travel/street Camera, A Nikon Z6II with a prime 28, 35, 50 mm is another story, but work great for street-, lifestyle and city scape. Thanks for inspiration, having a photo walk tomorrow😊
Thanks for sharing.
Hi there. How do you like your Nikon Z6II with 35mm for street photography ? I am thinking of getting that combo
Hello, I use (not at the same time) three cameras for street photography, the Fujifilm X70 with optical viewfinder accessory and the screen off (this setup is the closest thing to me to analog camera); the Fujifilm XE2s with 27mm or 18mm lenses, sometimes with pentax 110 lenses; and the Olympus Pen F with the Panasonic Leica 15mm 1.7 (gorgeous B&W). The most pocketable, X70; best autofocus, Pen F (and best B&W), at least for me. Saludos from Mexico City.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I’ve enjoyed combo-ing my GM1 with the Lumix 42.5mm f/1.7. Way more reach than you’d expect from a tiny camera and good shallow DOF even for M43rds.
I bought a GX1 and 18mm pancake. Around $400…I think. Used. Found the hot shoe VF.
I'm doing the same with the Oly 45mm f/1.8 (cos it was much easier to find used ones than the Lumix). Miss having the OIS though...
@@OKuusava yeah the GM1 controls are actively hostile to use-ability. Terrible dial that makes it too easy to hit into a menu.
Sony ZV1F is fixed wide lens with digital zoom also if you set 1:1 and its experience is closer to a 35mm lens. Youll love the FN button to switch to manual focus once you set the focus distance similar to the gr
My street kit consists of an Olympus EM10 MKII with either a Panasonic 20mm 1.7 or Panasonic 14mm 1.7. The set up is small enough and versatile enough for my needs. Thanks for the video, a great subject to discuss.
Thanks.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I like the Canon EOS M series with the EF-M 22mm f/2.0 lens.
I'm still fascinated by how Canon managed to create such a small APS-C lens with an f2 aperture
All good camera’s no remarks on that.
I use now for several years the Olympus Pen F with the pancake 14-42mm with a superb quality and handy size.
It can be said that is also a perfect camera for street photographers on my opinion.
I agree with what you said about the GR III and hope Ricoh doesn’t add a built-in non removable view finder in the next-gen. Your list covers all that I had in mind plus the Panasonic ZS200. I like the LX100 II but too bad the sensor area is not completely used.
Thanks. I also like the compact form factor and would not like extras that make the camera much bigger. The size is one of the best things in the GR and makes it unique.
@@mattisulanto absolutely my friend. Love the form factor of the GR III. Such a pleasure camera to use. I may get the IIIX eventually to complement the III 😃
I have a PEN E-PL1, and it's actually pretty big compared to an NEX3. An old NEX 3/5 would give you a bigger sensor, more MP, and more lens options than MFT, at least over older PENs.
If that's your jam, an a5100 is going to be a better option than the Nex. It added the 24mp sensor and hybrid autofocus of the a6000 into the a5000 body - which itself was based on the nex 5 body.
That gives you the most feature packed and high spec option for a super compact APSC shooter at an approx. $100-200 pricepoint (depending on how lucky/patient you are). Pair it with a 20mm pancake lens (or the16mm, but I hear that has terrible image quality) for another $200 and you have an insanely compact, insanely cheap alternative to the Ricoh at a fraction of the cost that also has technological parity and a better autofocus for around $300.
@@JimIBobIJonesThe problem is with lenses. The Sigma 19, 30 and 60 are the smaller lenses for the e mount that are actually good in image quality. But then they become quite a bit bigger as compared to GR.
@@byhyew all compact lenses trade off sharpness and fidelity for portability. The Ricoh is no exception.
The Sony 20mm f2.8 is pretty good though, much sharper than the 16mm
@@JimIBobIJones I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@JimIBobIJones the Sony 20mm f2.8 for APSC won't be good for low light right? because it will be f4.2 full frame equivalent.
I can't wait for the mark IV version of the GR with a few updates.
Tilting screen, EVF, interchangeable lenses, analogue controls are a must for me... No problem at 74 to walk a day long with my A7II or G9 and not shy in street photography. But there is a choice for all tastes I see that with the couples walking on the street. :-)
I've used the Canon EOS M for over 8 years and I like it, especially the touch screen shutter release. It can be set to manual focus and if you focus it to about 10 feet you can shoot a lot of things instantly, but I find it focuses fast enough most of the time. Quite often I shoot that with the 22mm (35mm equivalent) f2 lens but I like the kit zoom too. I still shoot the old Canon EOS 40d if I need speed and they can be had on the used market for less than $100. I picked up an S95 a couple of years ago and use that at the 28mm equivalent quite a bit {f/2) you can set the focus manually on that one too.
Thanks for sharing. Canon Ms are nice cameras too.
I love my Canon M50 II. I can't decide if I wanna buy the lens you mentioned or the 32mm f1.4
Nice video. I've been using various older cameras such as the Canon G11, M2, and even my older SD550. I also use other compact film cameras such as the Olympus mju and my Minolta Freedom Zoom. As much as I would like to find a GR III alternative, I can't and feel there's always a compromise somewhere. I will eventually invest in a GR III for simplicity, speed, and size.
Thanks for sharing!
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I still enjoy my Pentax MX1. Compact, fixed lens, tilt screen, incredible macro capabilities as well.
I agree about the GRIII/X cameras and are now my street choice. Feather light, inconspicuous and great image quality. Price is always relative and I was happy to pay. I have the Urban Edition which seems less "plasticky" and feels more robust than the standard version so it feels like a tough cookie if I knock it on something. I also have a Fuji X-T3 for other types of photography where I don't necessarily need the small form factor. I love the Fuji film simulations which are just lovely so I also tried the X100T and later the X100V but the larger form factor for street meant that I sold them on to buy the GRs.
Thanks for sharing your take on this.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Perceptions are everything. People see a small fixed lens camera and think point and shoot then question the price. Your simple explanation of the GR being a quality sensor in compact body with an excellent prime lens is the best summary I've heard to explain the relative 'value' of the GR. Street photography lends itself to the use of a small fixed lens camera like the GR. In other situations we may need a different cam and lens. So choose the camera that best suits your personal needs. PS: I hate changing lenses. Excellent video, thanks.
Thank you.
more alternative, nice video, you can choose your gear according to your style needs.
Fuji XF10 is the greatest overlooked sleeper. I've had mine for a few years and I believe it is every bit as good as a GR. It's APS-C and produces amazing images. If it had a viewfinder it would be the best street camera. Even after a few years I still don't enjoy taking pictures with just a screen.
I have a rx100v and it's a fantastic camera, I agree the zoom is a problem sometimes in term of velocity , but I sometimes need it. I had a fuji x100t and that fixed lens and short battery capability always drove me mad, the rx100v for me is a big leap ahead
You can’t go wrong with the Lumix GX80 with a bright compact lens, even its kit lens is nice and sharp. A 15 to 20mm f1.8 prime would also be great. It has an EVF, a tilting touch sensitive LCD with a super menu system, lots of practical and fun features and functions, in-body stabilisation that works with some lens’s stabilisation. Also a superb soft shutter and 4K photo pre-burst and burst plus panning and zooming functions. What’s not to like? Personally, as the user of many cameras, including a Leica D-Lux 7 007 edition, the GX80 and an OMD E-M10 Mk2, the only advantage I see for the GR3 is its pocketability. It has a smooth compact case that means it slides out of smaller pockets than other cameras. My solution is to buy clothes with pockets which allow the GX80 if not the Leica [Lumix LX100 Mk2]. Of those two the GX80 has several advantages including compactness but all, including the Ricoh GR3 I’m sure, are a delight to use in their unique ways.
Lumix GX/GM not available in India.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
GR and X100 have a unique feature... leaf shutter that eliminates any high-speed sync flash issues when you want to light up your subject in a bright scene.
That and the internal ND filter make these two peerless. Street photography kings.
the ZS100 and LX100 have a leaf shutter too I believe
Have a look at lumix tz60 with view finder and is bargain here in london
Fuji x-e4 is the most obvious alternative, and it’s even with interchangeable lenses… the new version of the pancake 27 mm lens, often bought with the camera as a bundle, is a nice compact solution.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486X-E4 from Fuji, if you can find one … X-pro 2 or 3 otherwise - super awesome cameras that you can grow your skills with as well
My choice is the Canon M200 with 22mm f2 lens. It has an 24 megapixel APS-C sensor with dual pixel autofocus. It is even smaller than my Lumix GX85 and takes brilliant images. Thanks for sharing.
I have been wondering to get M200. I have M50 but it would be nice sometimes to have something smaller. I do have the original M but that is so obsolete. M200 is basically same as M50 but in a different form factor.
To me, the GRIII would be an alternative to my venerable Canon G1X Mark III. Great video.
Hi, I really do like your channel, that's why I have subscribed some time ago. But, and please don't get me wrong... at the end of the video you are saying that your Ricohs are the best for you, better than any of the alternatives you have described. How that if you have NEVER used the Fujifilm XF10??? As a photographer, I have to tell you that XF10 is by far superior for various reasons like flash, battery life, sturdiness and so on... But, no problem, just maybe in the future don't compare or give statements without using a certain camera prior to it, thank you 🤜🤛👍
I take my words back, maybe the XF10 could be better😀 I hope that makes you feel better. But I also said multiple times in the video, that it's only my opinion. I don't expect you or everyone else to share my opinions. Just like your opinion is yours and maybe I don't share the same opinion. If you think the XF10 is far superior camera, it's fine by me. I have nothing against your opinion even if you had no experience with any other camera. I'm happy for you because you have found a camera that you really like. I respect your opinion and I think it would be boring if we all agreed on everything. These are just cameras and everyone has a favorite one, but not necessarily the same one😀
@sulantoblog Thanks for the respond 🤩 well, to be honest, I do have an extensive experience with every camera mentioned in your video. You see, for us they are tools and I kept only the XF10. Give it a go, the camera deserves your qualified opinion since it's, from the photographers point of view the most serious and complete one, even for professional work as I can assure you! Keep up the good work 👏 😍🤜🤛
@@KarloFio thanks for sharing!
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Hi Matti, What camera was used for filming street movies used in this video?
The video gear list is at the end of the video.
Don't forget the Panasonic ZS series and Canon G5X II. Both are competitors to the RX100 series, with 1" sensors and zoom lenses.
A niche choice would be a Nikon 1 J5 and 10/2.8, equivalent to 27mm. About the same size as an RX100, same excellent sensor from some of the RX100s, decent controls, and an ILC lens mount. The 10mm is also pretty slim. If you need a viewfinder, there's the Nikon 1 V3, which has an optional EVF (and grip with a dial, custom button, and shutter). Otherwise, it's a small camera close to LX100 size.
About the RX100's zoom "issue", you can set a memory recall to also recall the focal length. So every time you turn the camera on, it will zoom to that one specific focal length from the start.
Another option available on that camera is the ability to zoom directly to common focal lengths. So you can use the control dial around the lens, turn it, and it will go 24 -> 28 -> 35 -> 50 etc. Gets rid of those middle focal lengths, and "organizes" the number of focal lengths you have to choose from.
Many thanks for sharing your tips.
Thanks for the instuctive video. I like to take street photos with the rear screen up, a bit like using an old twin-lens reflex camera. So the GRiii's are not so good for me. I have the Canon M6 ii with an EF-M 22mm f2 lens, which gives a FF equivalent of a standard 35mm, somewhere between the GR iii and GR iiix. The body is a bit thicker and heavier than the GR iii's but you get a 32MP APSC sensor, fast auto focus, and when you need it you can add the excellent EVF. All for about the same price as a GR iii. The camera also supports interchangeable lenses which also makes this a good all-rounder.
When I was first considering the price of the GRIII, I thought about how having a built-for-purpose dedicated camera in my pocket would allow me to buy a phone that didn't need the flag ship camera hardware.
I have a $200 phone and $1000 camera that I'm happy with. Rather than a $1000+ phone that just doesn't quite meet my expectations.
I don't feel like I'm missing anything from either device, but I feel like I spent the money in the best place for each need. That said, not everyone is a good match for the GR, so it's possible you could achieve the same happy result for less money still.
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I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Is there a 1 inch sensor camera that is like the phased out but ahead of its time lumix cm-1? It had a fixed elmarit lens that was very sharp and full of contrast and character
Love this video 🙂I tend to think the compact set up is as good as what gets you out there to enjoy taking photos (whatever inspires you to shoot) 🙂 Currently I use the Fuji and Olympus Cameras as my compact set ups. For Fuji I use X-E1 with 27 F2.8 lens and Olympus I try to choose between my Olympus E-PM2 and E-PL8 with VF4 view finder and the Panasonic 20mm F1.7 lens or 12mm F1.4 lens 🙂
I've used many of the cameras you've mentioned here. Both GR and LX100 can be prone to dust which is a pain. I love the image quality of the GR and it is truly a pocket camera whereas the LX100 is more a coat pocket/small bag camera. I think the Sony RX100 is a good pocket camera but over-priced for what it is and Sony menus just don't make them enjoyable to use. An affordable alternative which is truly pocketable, 1" sensor and a viewfinder is TZ100 (ZS100). It produces way better images than my phone camera and is easy to have on me all the time even in a jeans pocket. Isn't always in stock but I recently picked one up for my daughter brand new for $400.
Many thanks for sharing. There are many versions of the RX100 though and the early ones are not that expensive.
Now, if only Panasonic were to copy the snap feature on the GR...
The Olympus PEN PL-8, with the feel of metal in hand, and a Lumix 14mm, or even the Olympus 25mm is one tiny, yet powerful combo. My favorite go to camera these days is the Lumix GX-9, with an Olympus 25mm, Lumix 30mm macro, Olympus 45mm, or even the little Lumix 14mm on it. Rare times the 12-60mm comes into the scene, but for say an outdoor music event, that zoom is handy. The Lumix GX-9 is so fast to focus and so accurate, with a great lock-in of focus for sharp, yet splint second action, I rank it tops. It will rarely miss. The Canon RP, which I have, using the low-end lenses, is great, but can miss the quick shots focus wise. Really, I do not see much of an advantage to Ricoh GR III or IIIx over the Lumix GX-9, other than size and weight. The Ricoh APS-C sensor I understand to be pretty darn good, but do we have any miss-focused shots? And the battery is even smaller than the Lumix. A super light camera does sound interesting however. And tiny enough to pocket, is interesting. My PEN PL-8 is pretty small as well. The Fujifilm XE-4 falls into the class of tiny rangefinder styled cameras -- priced like the Ricoh. Of course the biggest factor in photography is the human. We need not have yet another high quality image of nothing in our lives. Have fun, Loren
Thanks for sharing your alternatives.
I want to second the Fuji XE body. I own the XE1 and recently purchased the 27 (40 full frame equivalent f2.8)mm pancake lens. A small and powerful combination. Also true of the XE2-4. About the same size as the GR.
I also am a Panasonic GX9 shooter with the PL 15mm lens. Smaller than the GR. Better IBIS. Video is much better. Tilty screen. EVF is a giant plus for me.
Both of these bodies I use and endorse. My opinion of the GRiiiX is pending.
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@@martingreenberg870 thanks for sharing
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 There are many choices for a compact camera system to learn photography. They are all good. You need to decide how much money you want to spend. What size sensor size? I like M43 because of the many small and lightweight bodies and lenses that are inexpensive. I just bought a GX85 & 9.
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Another option is the X-M1 with X-Trans sensor, or the Bayer equivalent X-A1. If you don't mind a smaller sensor, there's the X10, older GR digital series, and Lumix LX 5, 7, etc.
Thanks. All good options.
I have (had) a few of the mentioned alternatives and never saw these as an alternative for my Ricoh GR.
Some stand out features from the Ricoh GR line: Easy one handed operation, snap focus, small/light, discrete, customizability, APS-C sensor. Unless you stay within the GR line, there will be some compromises to the point that it's not really an alternative anymore.
Still have the Ricoh GR from 2013 and love it and use it. Fast operation, images are sharp, even at f2.8. Only low light performance is a bit lacking, but there is a flash, which the GR III does not have.
Still have a X100 (original) and don't use it that much. It's an inspiring camera, but definitely not a GR alternative.
Recently bought the Lumix LX100 II and sold it again (it's ok, but I expected better/faster performance)
I have had the Sony RX100 (original) and sold it (I really didn't like to use it, such a bad UI)
Hello, I'm actually in the MFT sector at home. But for a quick trip. I had the gr3 and eventually got an RX1. The GR3 had to go.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I used to carry the GX85 or GX8 with the 20mm 1.7 lens before I bought my GR3x. Now the GR3x is always with me when I leave the house. That said, the lack of tilting or rotating screen, prevent a lot of angles to shoot from that would be more interesting if I would've brought one of the Lumix cameras. That's really my only complaint, and I couldn't be happier with my decision to purchase the Ricoh.
Many thanks for sharing.
I am about to pick up the Nikon Coolpix A. 16mp apsc sensor and FF eq 28mm lens. Rugged metal build and weather protection. And perfect size to fit in a pocket.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 I really appreciated my small Olympus EM5 with the 17mm. Which in full frame is about like a 35mm lens. You learn how to compose by moving in or out from the subject. And just one focal length really in my mind was more fun. Just took the work out of it. And I feel I was more creative.
Last week, I just purchased a used Fujifilm X10 (CAD$140) as my great alternative.
I still use Nikon Coolpix A I love it. It's aps-c and it's very similar to GR I with sensor, picture and lens.
Thanks. I have used the Coolpix A quite a bit when it was new. Really nice camera and excellent IQ too.
Hi Matti. I appreciate your channel; it's very informative. I'm intrigued by MFT Lumix GX880 / GF10. However, I don't see a control dial for Aperture/Shutter Speed. Can you please educate me on how you change Aperture/Shutter Speed on this camera. Thank you.
You can control both the aperture and shutter with the rear dial.
Average people don’t bother to change lenses, I agree with that. Optical zoom such as 4x may be needed for traveling. I like your video.
I still have the very first (!) Sony RX100 which i haven't used in years but I will try it on streetphotography for a while to see if I can deal with some things like size, 28mm and other things similar with the GRiii.
The RX100 has the same size, no viewfinder, a fixed display, I can use it at only 28mm KB, I can use it MF (to fake the snapshot).
I think its a good way to find out if spending 1000 € is worth it.
so what did you find out?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Don't neglect the GRD4! This is my GR, and I love it!
Thanks. Yeah, I forgot all previous GRs.
I love my GM1 with the tiny 12-32 and the GX 85 with the 20 mm.
Thanks. That is one compact set up indeed. Or two actually.
I chose Canon M200 with the F2.0 22mm (35mm equiv) pancake lens. You can get both new for $800... a bit less, actually.
The lens is super sharp wide open, and the camera provides a 24MP APS-C sensor with great AF and Canon's beautiful color science. It's really hard to beat!
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I would say the best direct comparison would be an MFT with Panasonic's 20mm f/1.7 (40mm equivalent, and faster than the GRIII). With the older panasonic GF cameras, there is a hot shoe electronic viewfinder, and though it works, it's very low resolution, but good for sunny days. The Olympus Pen F is a great camera, but it's larger and heavier. The best thing about the Pen F, though, is that you can fold away the screen and force yourself to only use the EVF, which is very comfortable and good. It's much more like using an old rangefinder.
Panasonic has two newer cameras with built in EVF that I'd check out for this too, the GX85 and the GX9, though both are about twice as heavy as the GRIII.
There is another camera, fixed lens, but with manual zoom and not that slow zoom in back and forth on a rocker switch: The Fujifilm X20. Yes, it's old, but it has a cool optical viewfinder, and is very fast to use. And you twist the zoom ring to turn on the camera! I compared some cameras to the GRIII, and even the tiny battery in the X20 has a better battery life (CIPA) than the GRIII, which came last at 200, with the X20 at 270. Since it can shoot without screen, and just the optical viewfinder, I'm sure it can be extended quite a lot. It is a little heavier, though, but only slightly bigger. And it has a tiny pop up flash that reaches 7m (1m longer than any of the panasonics!). I've only had mine for a short time, and haven't really had time to try it out doing street, but I didn't realize it was this high spec compared to the others! I think I'll have to 3D print a ring I can put on the zoom ring with a lever like on compact rangefinders, so that when it points straight down, I'm at 40mm equivalent! (My favorite camera ever is the QL17 GIII).
Thank you. I may buy the GR III or IIIx. Which of the two do you recommend if only buying one?
I like the GR3x better, but that is a matter of taste. I like the 40mm EQV angle of view.
thank you for this video. I have watched and aware of this Ricoh GR III since a few years ago when it came out. However, I cannot justify spending $ 1000 for it. I do own 2 canon SLRs (70D/100) and almost all STM lenses,canon S95, canon powershotpro1, LX 10, Lumix Zs220, GoPros, DJi drone, gimbals but recently have been resisting jumping to the IPhone of my wife for ease of use during travel. I am still holding out by contemplating going to fuji XS10 or its successor . Thank you for this video again. Anyway my old Canon 100D is APSC and I have a 24mm 2.8 STM lens. Im sure this is nowhere near an alternative.
so what do you use nowadays?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I recent times I've used my GX9 + Oly 17 f1.8, that is a nice small combo. The 12-32 f3.5-5.6 is also nice when you need to zoom. I also have the X100V, it is a work of art. It is a bit bigger than the GX9 but the viewfinder is amazing. The X100V has a nice crop feature too, the lens is fixed at 35mn equiv. but you can crop to 50 or 70mm. Somehow the image quality looks fantastic, at least to my eyes. I think the GR has something similar, right?
You are right about the EVF for the GR, why don't they make one like the Panasonic one from years ago, they had one for the GF1 aand GX1, it would even tilt up. By the way, one reason I haven't got a GR is the dust and wobbly back dial issues. I hope the GR4 will overcome those.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I am very happy going out with a solitary prime lens of my choice. A problem for me with the GR3 and the like is that the lens is not my choice. If I want a fisheye lens, tough.
If I want Live ND, can the Ricoh do that? I used it Friday, on the street.
If you want fisheye and live ND the GR3 is not your camera🙂
I bought a mint Nikon Coolpix A for under £200 recently. It's very similar to the GR Mark 1.
I'm not really a "street photographer" but I've had a lot of luck with my RX100M6 for travel. If you want to simulate the fixed lens experience, you can set a focal length in a memory setting so that when you power on the camera it goes directly to that focal length.
the Fujifilm x70 is also a very good alternative, flipscreen, flash and manuel dials
Perhaps you've had them the whole time, but I've just noticed your spectacles - which make and model are they?
I've been superkeen to get a IIIx, but the price and availability have kept it at bay. Now, I'm hoping for a GR IIImx (monochrome). They should bring Daido back for a promo launch for mono.
The Sigma fp with Leica TL18, or ttArtisans 28mmF5.6, or i17mm could make for a verssatile alternative. Also, there are two (big) VF options, almost unlimited lenses, and ssd-raw video etc, so it can certainly serve other roles, too. The fp L's CROP-ZOOM feature gives the best of both worlds regarding prime/zoom approaches, too (and mitigates the rolling shutter complaints if you check the table at Cine D for optimal crops).
The GM1 drew my attention to m4/3, and when the GM5 became cheaper it led me to buy the GM5, GX8, G9 and S1R -- pretty much accidently switching me to Lumix (now L-mount) from Fuji X-Pro (which I still use and love, but just don't tend to buy into now).
So, even though the GM-line was considered a flop, it led me to spend a huge amount on Lumix, Sigma and Leica.
P.S. not to mention giving the old cameras to relatives who now use Lumix. Which reminds me, the 35-100mmF4-5.6 MINIATURE ZOOM gave me an appreciation for zooms that I'd never had - I lent it to a relative, and never got it back, so may have to get another one.
Thanks for sharing your alternatives. I've had these specs for about a year, but don't remember any more the make or model.
Thanks for your tips - but in the end, all these cameras have too bulky (with the exception of the XF10, which really has a terrible autofocus.). The only one that can really be carried around all the time without being intrusive is the Ricoh. That might not matter to some, but for me, it's the difference between having it with me very often or just occasionally.
Two things have held me back on buying the Ricoh. Lack of viewfinder option and lack of weather sealing (for a relatively expensive camera).
Thanks for sharing. I had similar thoughts, but I got over them and can really enjoy the GR now. No camera is perfect.
There is an OVF available from Ricoh.
So the alternatives are all significantly more expensive if new, or, you can buy much older versions of the recommended cameras. Hmmm...I think I will just take my chances on the Ricoh.