I saw this movie as a young kid, and was convinced that I'd imagined it for years. I noticed that when the band are supposedly watching their clones performing in their place, they're actually watching concert footage from before Paul Cattermole left the group, since there's an extra member.
I thought something seemed off in the “clone concert” footage but couldn’t figure out what exactly it was other than it had something to do with the group’s members. That’s one giant unexplained plot hole that no one in the movie or editing it saw.
Okay, I want a longer video of Diva doing a retrospect on Spice World as I can imagine after so many horrible musicals since, she'd be going "yeah, looking back, this wasn't as awful as I thought...."
Spice World is dumb, but it did seem like everyone involved was at least trying to have some fun with it. It's not as painful as From Justin to Kelly where you can tell absolutely no one wants to be there.
@@Anynom I feel bad for everyone involved in that. On of my mentors did a Facebook Live with Justin Guarini right at the beginning of the pandemic and he was a really cool guy. He deserved better.
I've thought that, too. I've came to the channel late, so I've watched Diva's early videos when she was finding her footing all scattershot, and she seemed to come down on Spice World oddly hard for something I've always filed under "stupid, but harmless." I wonder if there are musicals she'd like to do a mulligan on? Considering how many Glitters and Musics that have actively offended her sensibilities, she might think "OK, maybe I was a little harsh on the cheesy dumb fluff."
Speaking of the Monkees, I would **LOVE** to see Diva attempt to review "Head." Whether she loves it or hates it (and it does have its fans) that would be a very entertaining video.
I remember S Club 7. They really tried to make them a thing in the US with 3 different TV shows set here and one hit song (by way of TRL) that was a ballad which came out in the middle of summer 2001 that showed the group in a winter setting.
I used to watch the show all the time and would look forward to seeing it. I get a cozy feeling thinking about S Club 7 even if they were pretty vanilla musically. Ah there's nothing quite like the 90s.
This group deserves eternal punishment for the lyrics Ghetto boys make some noise Hoochie mamas show your nanas from their introductory song "S-Club Party." there is no excuse, not even in 2001, for having a gaggle of squeaky clean British teens sing THAT.
13:00 this map fascinates me more than it should. they cut eurasia in two so that ameriac can be centered, BUT they have meridian lines going to infinity, which gives the impression they believe there is an ocean between the two halves of eurasia. Also, the continents and islands have shadows. not an outline, not a black silhouette to give the suggestion of depth, a shadow which is often detached from the landmass, and makes it look like they flying above the ocean.
Lots of stylized maps have that kind of shadow, and America-centered projections like that aren't unheard of (at least in the USA). There is no excuse for the longitude/latitude lines going like that, though...
@@timothymclean I mean, if you gotta have a shadow under your continents, make sure the shadow doesn't go too far from the territory. otherwise it just looks sloppy, especially if different places have diferent distances with the shadow.
@@nanardeurlambda This is cinema criticism buffoon, not cinema itself. No one is going to long for better writing for your comment. Do not attempt to upstage my wit, especially when it is at a medium depth, or anyone elses.
Yeah to say 'Primeval' (ITV's second attempt to take on 'Doctor Who') was a step up for Hannah Spearritt after this is saying something. Also, if we lived in the 'Turning Red' timeline, imagine the sort of movie 4*Town would have been made to star in.
So the S Club members are condemned to spend eternity with their own clones, eh? I guess Paul dodged a bullet by ditching the group before they made the movie.
Not exactly. At the end of the film, they decided that the clones will take their place when they want a holiday, and the same vice versa (it is also mentioned that the clones are getting paid in boomerangs).
That's not a generic ballad for their clone song, it's essentially their #1 hit (at least internationally). It's also their charity single. What an odd place to put it.
7:30 Ya know, this whole subplot could have been better - and just a smidge subversive - if the gag was that the band is so overworked that they literally don't even notice the clones doing their gigs because it's all become a blur. "When did we do a concert in LA?" "Uh... last month?" "No, we were in New York last month." "Nah, New York was in July." "Yeah, last month!" "It's October, luv." "Since when??" Etc, and ultimately they decide they must have done the gig sometime and just forgotten about it.
Spice World was self aware and very fun and campy which is why it has a huge cult follows. This movie just feels dull and cliché and the plot is like a dollar store clearance knock off version of Saved By the Bell DVD. You can tell that the Spice Girls knew that their movie wasn’t going to be a masterpiece by any means but they are having fun and you can see how much they love being with each other. S Club looks like they don’t want to be near each other but have to because of contractual reasons.
Diva: talks about how TH-cam doesn’t need another nitpicking commentator ranting about film minoo-tee-ay Me: obsessing over the weird pronunciation of minutiae. I always thought it was pronounced minoo-shah
This group was EVERYWHERE during the early 2000s. Their shows were watched by 90 million viewers Every single one of their songs broke the Top 5 in the UK Charts (Never Had a Dream Come True is the only song that reached the US charts, peaking at Nº10) Won 2 Brit Awards for Best New Artist and Best Song for Don’t Stop Movin’ They had one of the biggest concert sales of 2001 They even had a pre-teen spinoff called S Club 8 (or S Club Juniors) that wasn’t very successful (although 2 of their members went on to be in The Saturdays) Only toddlers and little kids enjoy their songs They had a brief reunion in 2015 and almost had an another one in occasion for their 20th anniversary, but it ended up going nowhere (with Paul, the first one who left the group, calling one of the members a bully) P.S. If anyone is wondering what the S stands for, it stands for Simon (like Simon Fuller). Yep, he slapped his initials like a pair of Khakis because he likes milking everything. This was confirmed by the members
The "S stands for Simon (Fuller)" thing, and the fact that he helped produce this, makes that bit where the agent bluntly tells the group that they're disposable and that they'll vanish from the world's collective memory if they take a break for a second...really fucked up.
@@Talisguy Not quite. The S corresponds to Simon Fuller's media production company 19 Entertainment, with S being the 19th letter of the alphabet. Plus, their music was meant to be enjoyed by all ages.
At least there was chemistry between the Spice Girls in Spice World and you can tell they are having fun making the movie even if it wasn’t going to be good. Their so called personalities in the group are accurate to who they were and what they liked which is what made their characterization in Spice World work and not feel so flat.
As a child of the early 2000's when the Cheetah Girls and the Olsen Twins ran the show and "Barbie Girl" was the decade's anthem, the this movie kinda hurts. Speaking of which, how come Aqua didn't get a cheesy movie?
Oh, I remember seeing this show on the old ABC Family back in early 2000s. They were trying for a "modern Monkees" of them bouncing around various antics and such but still not even bad enough to be memorable unlike say, "Spice World."
I propose that the villain lair is actually Evil Eagle Peak. I like the notion of an evil scientist naming his den of doom after a devious bird of prey. Besides, if we can’t figure out which word precedes “Peak,” why can’t we have both?
Did the TV show rot your brain like it did to Todd in the Shadows? Poor S Club, the questionable shit in this movie was not their fault, I could think of something that takes the blame....... Fuck, I am blanking on whether I remember The Scarecrow.
It's a DTV animated musical from 2000 Warner Bros distributed. And according to Wikipedia. It has NOTHING to do with the Oz canon in any way. Instead. It's an adaptation of a short story & a stage musical.
@@Rabbitlord108 honestly, it would pretty fun seeing Diva rip apart The Scarecrow as that movie was a poor man's Beauty and the Beast and the most ill-fitting soundtrack I've heard as it is set some time in the 1700s and the soundtrack has a modern, poppy sound that you would hear in music from the early 00s. I guess they wanted it to be trendy or something
OK, I've come to expect a LOT of obscure references in Diva's recaps, but a shout out to the Armory was definitely NOT on my bingo card. Fun Fact: "Don't Stop Movin'" the song in the prison break montage, is often considered their best song. Make of that what you will.
@@pinkcupcake4717 A lot of the songs on their last album are catchy as hell. "Gangsta Love," "Let Me Sleep," and "Dance" are great, and "Hey Kitty Kitty" is a guilty pleasure of mine.
I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking, "Who?" although I'm less inclined to find out when one of them decides to piss on a public building in a foreign country within the first few minutes. No surprise his DNA was on eBay. [e] And actually, what is that on the villain's banners? Because it looks like Batman to me, and I doubt that's what he was going for.
I have a soft spot for S Club and other bands of the day like Steps - Have You Ever being one of my favourite songs for getting me into singing properly - but even I stayed away from the TV series. I had no idea there was a film - kind of wish I was still ignorant about it now.
I get more and more fond of them (S Club, Steps, The A-Teens, all the Post-Spice groups) as time goes on. As the world gets darker and even music goes into a phase of being incredibly intense and self-serious, I appreciate more and more that they had no pretense about what they were and were just plain fun and made happy pop songs. Listening to that relentless optimism has gotten me through some of the rougher patches in my life.
Speaking of From Justin to Kelly, Kelly Clarkson is in another movie musical, Ugly Dolls. Unlike From Justin to Kelly where even Kelly herself hated the movie, Kelly was proud of Ugly Dolls.
They actually play a song from that movie on the soundtrack at my work. It's not bad, but it's nothing special. Which probably could also be said of the movie.
I only had the vaguest notion what S Club 7 was about when I was a kid. Like, I remember having seen advertisements for the Miami edition of the show, but I had no idea that they were a pop group until they showed up on a Radio Disney compilation CD. And even then, I had no idea that they were supposed to be a big deal.
Honestly, after the hell that's been the last 10 years, I'd welcome the Spice Girls and *GOOD* movies of this genre back. They're fun. Cheesy, but fun. However, God - at least Spice World had a *personality!*
What was noticeable was that the movie wasn’t in the same canon as the TV series so there is a lack of consistency. Also the BBC has been holding onto the distribution rights to the 7 series and Viva S Club for years so it’s a lot of trouble for fans to find them (especially as the last series never came out on video or DVD)
You know this movie is made on the cheap when they have to use a cheap imitation of Christopher Lee. Because, like, Christopher Lee is not all that peckish about his roles. He's been in really cheap dreck. It's the British school of being an actor - acting is your job, so any paying gig is a good gig. So for a movie to be too cheap to get Christopher Lee, it has to have a budget of five schillings.
You know you have a problem when the only "name" cast member aside from S Club members themselves is Pop Idol runner-up Gareth Gates, who faded into obscurity within the year. At least the TV series had the child from The Exorcist (for some reason...)
Okay hear me out, but why didn’t they just make a movie that continued the plot of the tv show? I mean it wasn’t grown breaking but it was more or less realistic. A band from England gets a gig in America, turns out it’s at a grimy hotel where they have to clean the place as well and it gives them a much needed reality check. They finish their contract in Miami, decide to try their luck in L.A., eventually go to Spain where one of their members decides to move on. The movie seriously starts in Spain, so why the hell didn’t they just pick up from there and just tell the story of a band moving on after one of their founding members leaves? Again, nothing groundbreaking but it certainly would have been more believable and a lot easier to film than this.
Pretty much all I know of S Club 7 was that they had like one hit in the US and then years later Hannah Spearritt played a character on one of my favorite shows, Primeval.
You need to do an episode on The Monkees' Head next, in which the idea of exploring manufactured bands and images are discussed in a way that only Jack Nicholson (yes, that Jack Nicholson) on LSD could write it
I have fond memories of S Club 7's stuff from when I was a kid (including the TV show), and I still occasionally go back and listen to some of the early stuff even now but I was well and truly over them by the time this movie came out and it seems like I didn't miss out on anything
I barely have any nostalgia for S Club 7 but this movie makes Spice World look like The Room (bad but enjoyable so at times). Can’t wait to see you look at The Scarecrow, it’s such a strange little feature. If you weren’t reviewing it I’d say it’d make a good candidate for MHTV.
I don’t know what makes less sense, the general reasoning of the bad guy, or why he targeted S Club at all. Outside of Britain, who the hell knew who they were or would care about what they do? As much as this reeks of a Spice World-esque grab, at least the spice girls had name recognition to grab onto.
@@eatatjoes6751 sure, but at least they were insanely well known globally. But making a movie where this band is treated like a key to world domination when most of the world wouldn’t have heard of them (and frankly, even Britain was tired of them) stinks of “please love this manufactured band from the makers of the Spice Girls!” And that’s coming at the end of their career!
Never saw this film, but I do remember watching the S-Club 7 TV shows and some of their earlier films when they first came out, and... I actually have fond memories of them. The Miami show was a lot of fun (I think mainly because there was a more interesting conflict in the show's premise), and there was a film where they travel back to 1959 that, while noticeably cheap, was enjoyable. So, I do have a soft spot for them, but I also haven't seen or heard from them in so many years, so I wonder if I'd cringe watching any of their shows now. I also feel the personalices were much better defined in those earlier shows (Bradley was always more a goof, while Jon was somewhat more serious, for example).
You really need big personalities to pull off a bonkers plot like this movie had.. if this had been a spice Girls movie sequel, it would have been way over the top campy and would have worked better.
It would be much better because the Spice Girls actually are friends and enjoy each other’s company. They had a blast filming Spice World and it shows. A movie only feels believable if the leads can actually get along and have fun with the material they are given. You can have a truly horrendous adaptation of a Shakespeare play (just ask Kenneth Branagh) if the casting isn’t quite right and there isn’t chemistry within the cast. And you can have a “bad” movie that is actually pretty good if you ignore the flaws and don’t watch it and expect it to be Citizen Kane which is what Spice World was. Seeing Double is what you’d get if you took Spice World and took out all of its charm and charisma and had a chimp write the script.
4:35: Dang. I don't think I've ever heard Diva trash a real-world music group _that_ cruelly. 11:00: ...well, "the group splits up into one group infiltrating the clones and one group wardening the clones they haven't replaced" is a better explanation than I was expecting for having S-Club members share share as few scenes as possible with their own clones. 14:25: Dude, you've got them in your dungeon. Take a friggin' cheek swab.
Oh yeah.. I remember these kids! In Finland they used to show them during YLE's summertime children's block when I was about nine years old. Haven't heard of them since.
HELP! PLEASE! I’m a loyal follower with nowhere else to turn. Last week, I watched Give My Regards to Broad Street all the way through with no breaks. Ever since, I have been struggling to process this movie’s awfulness, with no success. Your wisdom helped me heal the childhood trauma that was the Sgt. Pepper’s movie, so I am hopeful that you can help me through this. Ironically, this movie also features Beatles’ covers, (performed by 0.5 of the group) as well as dialogue so dull that it almost makes one miss The Bee Gees’ silent mugging. Please, Diva, find the courage to take on the cold case of this musical. Justice is long overdue, and your judgement might just bring closure for us all.
I saw the trailer for this film after it was revealed at the end of your last episode, and my first thought was "This film wants so hard to be Spice World that it hurts". I like Spice World btw, and actually plan on reviewing it in a future video.
Spice World was campy self aware fun and you can tell everyone had a good time making it even if it wasn’t going to become the next Citizen Kane. The Girls had chemistry with each other and interesting personalities. This movie has the S Club feeling really really flat and the personalities of a piece of paper. This is nothing more than some music video that is running far too long.
Okay, I know this shouldn't be a point in this band's favor, but the sad reality is, considering some bands of this type I've seen, it kind of is; at least this band isn't only one gender or the other. Again, shouldn't be a point in its favor but, with how popular boy/girl bands are, and considering the other movie under this guy's belt is Spice World, it still took me a bit by surprise. Now if they could only make music that could keep me conscious, then we'd have something.
You've been short changed. Wyld Stallions were duplicated in "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey". And I think there were duplicate Beatles in one of their films.
*sees S-Club even being mentioned* (Putting a pipe in my mouth) "Ah, yes, back when I was but a wee lass, when the world was less complicated and we threw rocks and Spice Girls CDs at each other or fun..."
Will you ever cover 365 Days trilogy, Diva? Sure, it's not a musical in a traditional sense, but for about 80% of its runtime we hear pop music playing over the scenes, so it may technically count? Anyway, I'd love to hear you serve it with punishments. :)
Best version of the evil clone version of a band created to take over the world? An episode of Japanese Tokusatsu Spider-Man. And even then, it doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense. There's this band that performs this song about how great Spider-Man is, and they're replaced with robot duplicates so they can perform the exact same song, but with a high pitched distortion that only spiders can hear that causes Spider-Man to have convulsions every time he hears that version of the song. And it's like, what is the point of robot duplicates of a band if it's just the high pitched whine that gets him? But at least it's more entertaining than this thing is.
15:46 I can maybe give the Groucho Marx and Marilyn Monroe references a pass. Of course, it falls apart at the Tom Green reference, where Green HAS a music career yet his overall default is "jokey piss-take rap".
I know it's corny but, for the sake of hilarity, I really hope Doug Walker reviews this movie mainly to give Malcolm a fake backstory of him being the black guy, Bradley, in S Club 7. Seriously, don't they look alike?! At least in some angles...
The henchwoman scene should be a sin alone. Besides the bad name. ( Technically she could have said I have many names, or I won't give you my real name but you may call me...) She doesn't even hurt Alistar . Does a few martial arts moves in front of him including the high kick. Then pushes him down (Or what looks to be a push down.) And he's out cold. Come On. I used to do martial arts. No. If she punched him as hard as it looks like she did. He would be on the ground either (sorry for sounding disgusting) puking or grabbing his ribs, he would have a bloody nose, maybe a shiner. split lip. And he could be out cold. Diva Any thoughts of the upcoming Monster High Musical? I think that maybe a future court case for you.
I love Josie and the Pussycats as the feature-length movie from 2001, plus I kinda remember the Hanna-Barbera cartoon from Cartoon Network reruns, well the titular song that is.
I haven't watched this, but I'm surprised they had such a hard time giving them distinct personalities, because in the TV show they basically copy-pasted the archetypes from Friends.
Were S-Club-7 a big deal in their native UK? Here in the US, I think they only had that one hit, "Never Had a Dream Come True." Which I didn't even remember until I watched the Todd in the Shadows video on it!
@@Locke350 I always had the impression they had that "America churns out so many musical acts it's really damn hard for any foreign act regardless of international popularity to break through" problem. ABBA never really became the mega-hit they were elsewhere since Fleetwood Mac kind of cornered the market they could have reached, and Kylie Minogue never completely broke through in America since Madonna was already there. We had boy bands and pop groups being cranked out by the truckload, so why did we need to import?
"There is no greater hell than to be trapped for eternity in a room with your friends." -- Sayeth Sartre, to which we can now add one's own clones. And we learned THAT with Spider-Man. S Club was way below my age level, but it sounded so stupid - it sounds like it wanted to be The Monkees but didn't have anything close to their talent as actors or as singers. No wonder they broke up after the movie came out.
[drops a nickel in the jar] If we all chipped in these nickels, maybe we could fully bankroll a decent musical.
Hell, we could get S-Club for it. It's not like they have anything else going on, hfc.
I saw this movie as a young kid, and was convinced that I'd imagined it for years. I noticed that when the band are supposedly watching their clones performing in their place, they're actually watching concert footage from before Paul Cattermole left the group, since there's an extra member.
I thought something seemed off in the “clone concert” footage but couldn’t figure out what exactly it was other than it had something to do with the group’s members. That’s one giant unexplained plot hole that no one in the movie or editing it saw.
Same, it's been on my mind for so long - I finally figured out what it was again haha
Okay, I want a longer video of Diva doing a retrospect on Spice World as I can imagine after so many horrible musicals since, she'd be going "yeah, looking back, this wasn't as awful as I thought...."
It would be neat to see Diva make retrospectives of basically any of her old videos, I think.
Spice World is dumb, but it did seem like everyone involved was at least trying to have some fun with it. It's not as painful as From Justin to Kelly where you can tell absolutely no one wants to be there.
@@karrihart1 Kelly Clarkson openly winces when someone brings up that movie
@@Anynom I feel bad for everyone involved in that. On of my mentors did a Facebook Live with Justin Guarini right at the beginning of the pandemic and he was a really cool guy. He deserved better.
I've thought that, too. I've came to the channel late, so I've watched Diva's early videos when she was finding her footing all scattershot, and she seemed to come down on Spice World oddly hard for something I've always filed under "stupid, but harmless."
I wonder if there are musicals she'd like to do a mulligan on? Considering how many Glitters and Musics that have actively offended her sensibilities, she might think "OK, maybe I was a little harsh on the cheesy dumb fluff."
To quote Crow T. Robot: "You know a movie is bad-bad-bad when it makes the Monkees look good!"
Yeah, but with The Monkees everyone involved knew it was stupid and they had so much fun being as stupid as possible that it's charming and campy.
Speaking of the Monkees, I would **LOVE** to see Diva attempt to review "Head." Whether she loves it or hates it (and it does have its fans) that would be a very entertaining video.
@@jasonblalock4429 yes please.😎
I remember S Club 7. They really tried to make them a thing in the US with 3 different TV shows set here and one hit song (by way of TRL) that was a ballad which came out in the middle of summer 2001 that showed the group in a winter setting.
That music video *defined* fashion for early 2000's preteens in the UK.
I used to watch the show all the time and would look forward to seeing it. I get a cozy feeling thinking about S Club 7 even if they were pretty vanilla musically. Ah there's nothing quite like the 90s.
"Never Had A Dream Come True" was released in the UK in November 2000...
This group deserves eternal punishment for the lyrics
Ghetto boys make some noise
Hoochie mamas show your nanas
from their introductory song "S-Club Party." there is no excuse, not even in 2001, for having a gaggle of squeaky clean British teens sing THAT.
That lyric always reeked of "European songwriters trying to dabble in American slang without knowing what it REALLY means" to me.
@@Eviltwin531 As far as I know, the only one who did it extremely well was "Return of the Mack"
Slight correction: It was from 1999, and their debut single was "Bring It All Back" (which has similarly terrible lyrics about toxic positivity)
Fun fact, that song was written by Norwegian production team Stargate, the same people who gave So Sick by Ne-Yo and Irreplaceable by Beyonce
13:00 this map fascinates me more than it should.
they cut eurasia in two so that ameriac can be centered, BUT they have meridian lines going to infinity, which gives the impression they believe there is an ocean between the two halves of eurasia.
Also, the continents and islands have shadows. not an outline, not a black silhouette to give the suggestion of depth, a shadow which is often detached from the landmass, and makes it look like they flying above the ocean.
Lots of stylized maps have that kind of shadow, and America-centered projections like that aren't unheard of (at least in the USA). There is no excuse for the longitude/latitude lines going like that, though...
The red tethers indicate which half of Asia we are more likely to keep. Thanks Natalie.
@@timothymclean I mean, if you gotta have a shadow under your continents, make sure the shadow doesn't go too far from the territory. otherwise it just looks sloppy, especially if different places have diferent distances with the shadow.
@@nanardeurlambda This is cinema criticism buffoon, not cinema itself. No one is going to long for better writing for your comment. Do not attempt to upstage my wit, especially when it is at a medium depth, or anyone elses.
Yeah to say 'Primeval' (ITV's second attempt to take on 'Doctor Who') was a step up for Hannah Spearritt after this is saying something.
Also, if we lived in the 'Turning Red' timeline, imagine the sort of movie 4*Town would have been made to star in.
So the S Club members are condemned to spend eternity with their own clones, eh? I guess Paul dodged a bullet by ditching the group before they made the movie.
Not exactly. At the end of the film, they decided that the clones will take their place when they want a holiday, and the same vice versa (it is also mentioned that the clones are getting paid in boomerangs).
That's not a generic ballad for their clone song, it's essentially their #1 hit (at least internationally). It's also their charity single. What an odd place to put it.
Their ONLY American hit. It was still pretty generic tho.
Oh no, one of the writers of From Justin To Kelly is part of this. Let’s go…
Yep, that such have been our first clue that this would be a stinker.
“Boris, get my crossbow. We’re going hunting!”
@MovieFan19122 I’ll go get the net!
That writer's backstage politics must've been phenomenal to get work after that stinker.
every british millennial subbed to this channel screamed when they saw this on their youtube homepage
7:17 you know it's pre-2010 when a white women makes a comment about having a big butt. This """""joke"""" was funny all 3,567 times I heard it
Saw this popped up in my algorithm. I just got to say, wonderful review once again, Diva. And Rest in Peace to Paul Cattermole of S Club 7.
Who is the target demographic of this movie?
Why are there all these sex jokes when the plot seems geared towards children?!
A question I asked at least once every five minutes while watching this...
@@MusicalHell still better than cats at least.
@@frankieseward8667 You can say that again
Oh, the Nostalgia Critic diss!
7:30 Ya know, this whole subplot could have been better - and just a smidge subversive - if the gag was that the band is so overworked that they literally don't even notice the clones doing their gigs because it's all become a blur.
"When did we do a concert in LA?" "Uh... last month?" "No, we were in New York last month." "Nah, New York was in July." "Yeah, last month!" "It's October, luv." "Since when??" Etc, and ultimately they decide they must have done the gig sometime and just forgotten about it.
Spice World was self aware and very fun and campy which is why it has a huge cult follows. This movie just feels dull and cliché and the plot is like a dollar store clearance knock off version of Saved By the Bell DVD. You can tell that the Spice Girls knew that their movie wasn’t going to be a masterpiece by any means but they are having fun and you can see how much they love being with each other. S Club looks like they don’t want to be near each other but have to because of contractual reasons.
I mean.... Hannah Spearritt is a really good actress when she's not given garbage. She was great in Primeval (where I know her from).
There ain't no party like an S-Club party, cause an S-Club party don't START-
This movie might not be the worst out there, but it’s certainly no work of art-
Diva...the castle pic when you made the dungeon joke...I will never get over that. XD
If you know you know.
Diva: talks about how TH-cam doesn’t need another nitpicking commentator ranting about film minoo-tee-ay
Me: obsessing over the weird pronunciation of minutiae. I always thought it was pronounced minoo-shah
This group was EVERYWHERE during the early 2000s.
Their shows were watched by 90 million viewers
Every single one of their songs broke the Top 5 in the UK Charts (Never Had a Dream Come True is the only song that reached the US charts, peaking at Nº10)
Won 2 Brit Awards for Best New Artist and Best Song for Don’t Stop Movin’
They had one of the biggest concert sales of 2001
They even had a pre-teen spinoff called S Club 8 (or S Club Juniors) that wasn’t very successful (although 2 of their members went on to be in The Saturdays)
Only toddlers and little kids enjoy their songs
They had a brief reunion in 2015 and almost had an another one in occasion for their 20th anniversary, but it ended up going nowhere (with Paul, the first one who left the group, calling one of the members a bully)
P.S.
If anyone is wondering what the S stands for, it stands for Simon (like Simon Fuller).
Yep, he slapped his initials like a pair of Khakis because he likes milking everything.
This was confirmed by the members
Weird. I never heard of S-Club until now and I was a teenager back then and I paid attention to the music scene.
The "S stands for Simon (Fuller)" thing, and the fact that he helped produce this, makes that bit where the agent bluntly tells the group that they're disposable and that they'll vanish from the world's collective memory if they take a break for a second...really fucked up.
@@kenthuang436 I heard of them but the only song I remember is their "theme" song which often played on Radio Disney.
I guess they were bigger in the UK. As an American, I only remember seeing commercials for their show on ABC Family.
@@Talisguy Not quite. The S corresponds to Simon Fuller's media production company 19 Entertainment, with S being the 19th letter of the alphabet. Plus, their music was meant to be enjoyed by all ages.
"S-Club: Seeing Double" managed to be slightly better than "From Justin to Kelly" but so much worse than "Spice World". That says a lot! 😆
At least there was chemistry between the Spice Girls in Spice World and you can tell they are having fun making the movie even if it wasn’t going to be good. Their so called personalities in the group are accurate to who they were and what they liked which is what made their characterization in Spice World work and not feel so flat.
Seeing Double? More like seeing my own eyelids, it's sofa king dull
@@kenthuang436 Say what you want about Spice World, at least it wasn't emptier than the vaccum of space and a chore to watch
I remember watching S Club 7 back on Fox Family (then called ABC Family and now called Freeform), but I don't remember seeing this movie before!
As a child of the early 2000's when the Cheetah Girls and the Olsen Twins ran the show and "Barbie Girl" was the decade's anthem, the this movie kinda hurts. Speaking of which, how come Aqua didn't get a cheesy movie?
Oh, I remember seeing this show on the old ABC Family back in early 2000s. They were trying for a "modern Monkees" of them bouncing around various antics and such but still not even bad enough to be memorable unlike say, "Spice World."
I do too! I remember watching this show only because it was on. Never liked it very much.
08:40 and sweet Lucifer we’re literally copying the bad KISS movie
I propose that the villain lair is actually Evil Eagle Peak. I like the notion of an evil scientist naming his den of doom after a devious bird of prey. Besides, if we can’t figure out which word precedes “Peak,” why can’t we have both?
Did the TV show rot your brain like it did to Todd in the Shadows? Poor S Club, the questionable shit in this movie was not their fault, I could think of something that takes the blame.......
Fuck, I am blanking on whether I remember The Scarecrow.
It's a DTV animated musical from 2000 Warner Bros distributed. And according to Wikipedia. It has NOTHING to do with the Oz canon in any way. Instead. It's an adaptation of a short story & a stage musical.
@@Rabbitlord108 OK I'm looking at it right now. From the makers of the Swan Princess.......should be something.
@@litlblkhouse OH GOD! I didn't check what else the folks who made it did beforehand.
@@Rabbitlord108 honestly, it would pretty fun seeing Diva rip apart The Scarecrow as that movie was a poor man's Beauty and the Beast and the most ill-fitting soundtrack I've heard as it is set some time in the 1700s and the soundtrack has a modern, poppy sound that you would hear in music from the early 00s. I guess they wanted it to be trendy or something
@@saulthechicanootaku That reminds me of a certain sequel to another film made by Crest Animation........
OK, I've come to expect a LOT of obscure references in Diva's recaps, but a shout out to the Armory was definitely NOT on my bingo card.
Fun Fact: "Don't Stop Movin'" the song in the prison break montage, is often considered their best song. Make of that what you will.
20 years later, Don't Stop Moving is actually a bop.
@@pinkcupcake4717 A lot of the songs on their last album are catchy as hell. "Gangsta Love," "Let Me Sleep," and "Dance" are great, and "Hey Kitty Kitty" is a guilty pleasure of mine.
Don’t Stop Movin’ won a Brit Award for Best British Single in 2002
I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking, "Who?" although I'm less inclined to find out when one of them decides to piss on a public building in a foreign country within the first few minutes. No surprise his DNA was on eBay.
[e] And actually, what is that on the villain's banners? Because it looks like Batman to me, and I doubt that's what he was going for.
I have a soft spot for S Club and other bands of the day like Steps - Have You Ever being one of my favourite songs for getting me into singing properly - but even I stayed away from the TV series. I had no idea there was a film - kind of wish I was still ignorant about it now.
I get more and more fond of them (S Club, Steps, The A-Teens, all the Post-Spice groups) as time goes on. As the world gets darker and even music goes into a phase of being incredibly intense and self-serious, I appreciate more and more that they had no pretense about what they were and were just plain fun and made happy pop songs.
Listening to that relentless optimism has gotten me through some of the rougher patches in my life.
Speaking of From Justin to Kelly, Kelly Clarkson is in another movie musical, Ugly Dolls. Unlike From Justin to Kelly where even Kelly herself hated the movie, Kelly was proud of Ugly Dolls.
They actually play a song from that movie on the soundtrack at my work. It's not bad, but it's nothing special. Which probably could also be said of the movie.
Ugly Dolls isn't a bad movie, it's just unremarkable
I only had the vaguest notion what S Club 7 was about when I was a kid. Like, I remember having seen advertisements for the Miami edition of the show, but I had no idea that they were a pop group until they showed up on a Radio Disney compilation CD. And even then, I had no idea that they were supposed to be a big deal.
Honestly, after the hell that's been the last 10 years, I'd welcome the Spice Girls and *GOOD* movies of this genre back.
They're fun. Cheesy, but fun.
However, God - at least Spice World had a *personality!*
And the leads all enjoyed being with each other.
What was noticeable was that the movie wasn’t in the same canon as the TV series so there is a lack of consistency. Also the BBC has been holding onto the distribution rights to the 7 series and Viva S Club for years so it’s a lot of trouble for fans to find them (especially as the last series never came out on video or DVD)
S-Club. Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time...a long time.
You know this movie is made on the cheap when they have to use a cheap imitation of Christopher Lee. Because, like, Christopher Lee is not all that peckish about his roles. He's been in really cheap dreck. It's the British school of being an actor - acting is your job, so any paying gig is a good gig. So for a movie to be too cheap to get Christopher Lee, it has to have a budget of five schillings.
You know you have a problem when the only "name" cast member aside from S Club members themselves is Pop Idol runner-up Gareth Gates, who faded into obscurity within the year. At least the TV series had the child from The Exorcist (for some reason...)
Okay hear me out, but why didn’t they just make a movie that continued the plot of the tv show? I mean it wasn’t grown breaking but it was more or less realistic. A band from England gets a gig in America, turns out it’s at a grimy hotel where they have to clean the place as well and it gives them a much needed reality check. They finish their contract in Miami, decide to try their luck in L.A., eventually go to Spain where one of their members decides to move on. The movie seriously starts in Spain, so why the hell didn’t they just pick up from there and just tell the story of a band moving on after one of their founding members leaves? Again, nothing groundbreaking but it certainly would have been more believable and a lot easier to film than this.
Pretty much all I know of S Club 7 was that they had like one hit in the US and then years later Hannah Spearritt played a character on one of my favorite shows, Primeval.
You know, Diva, having a clone might make it easier for you to take a break every now and then. 🤣🤣
You need to do an episode on The Monkees' Head next, in which the idea of exploring manufactured bands and images are discussed in a way that only Jack Nicholson (yes, that Jack Nicholson) on LSD could write it
Yes it's that time of the month. LET'S GO MUSICAL HELL!
10 AM PST would be perfect for a Disney Channel concert for small kids.
I have fond memories of S Club 7's stuff from when I was a kid (including the TV show), and I still occasionally go back and listen to some of the early stuff even now but I was well and truly over them by the time this movie came out and it seems like I didn't miss out on anything
I barely have any nostalgia for S Club 7 but this movie makes Spice World look like The Room (bad but enjoyable so at times). Can’t wait to see you look at The Scarecrow, it’s such a strange little feature. If you weren’t reviewing it I’d say it’d make a good candidate for MHTV.
14:24 I was not expecting a reference to a prominent porn and bdsm studio. XD
Kudos for a brilliant use of the still picture at 14:25 to nail that joke.
Yeah all I'll say about that is it looks really familiar lol
14:24 - The first 5-10 minutes of any video that starts with this have more plot than the entire movie.
I don’t know what makes less sense, the general reasoning of the bad guy, or why he targeted S Club at all. Outside of Britain, who the hell knew who they were or would care about what they do? As much as this reeks of a Spice World-esque grab, at least the spice girls had name recognition to grab onto.
The Spice Girls had gimmicks too.
@@eatatjoes6751 sure, but at least they were insanely well known globally. But making a movie where this band is treated like a key to world domination when most of the world wouldn’t have heard of them (and frankly, even Britain was tired of them) stinks of “please love this manufactured band from the makers of the Spice Girls!” And that’s coming at the end of their career!
There is literally no party like an S Club party. The S is for "Sandwiches".
Not quite. The S corresponds to Simon Fuller's media production company 19 Entertainment, with S being the 19th letter of the alphabet.
@@andrewbloom7637 That's what my nemesis CARMICHAEL wants you to think!
I never had a dream come true was my favorite song and didn't know this group sang it.
I loved the S-Club TV-Series. The intro is still my goto song when I feel bad.
Actually, I’d describe the villain as the love child between Discount Christopher Lee and Bargain Basement Jonathan Pryce.
I remember dragging my mom to see this with me in the cinema when it came out, she complained that it was really bad when it finished
Never saw this film, but I do remember watching the S-Club 7 TV shows and some of their earlier films when they first came out, and... I actually have fond memories of them. The Miami show was a lot of fun (I think mainly because there was a more interesting conflict in the show's premise), and there was a film where they travel back to 1959 that, while noticeably cheap, was enjoyable. So, I do have a soft spot for them, but I also haven't seen or heard from them in so many years, so I wonder if I'd cringe watching any of their shows now. I also feel the personalices were much better defined in those earlier shows (Bradley was always more a goof, while Jon was somewhat more serious, for example).
Y'all know Copy Robot from Mega Man 1, and the subsequent holograms from 3 and Robot Masters? from Powered Up, right?
This movie is that.
Kamino Celebrity Edition🤣🤣🤣
Diva always has the great lines👍🏻
Every so often I write a line I'm shamelessly proud of, and that's one of them.
@@MusicalHell as you should be!
@@MusicalHell have you considered retrospective reviews. I would love to see how your view of Spice World has changed.
You really need big personalities to pull off a bonkers plot like this movie had.. if this had been a spice Girls movie sequel, it would have been way over the top campy and would have worked better.
It would be much better because the Spice Girls actually are friends and enjoy each other’s company. They had a blast filming Spice World and it shows. A movie only feels believable if the leads can actually get along and have fun with the material they are given. You can have a truly horrendous adaptation of a Shakespeare play (just ask Kenneth Branagh) if the casting isn’t quite right and there isn’t chemistry within the cast. And you can have a “bad” movie that is actually pretty good if you ignore the flaws and don’t watch it and expect it to be Citizen Kane which is what Spice World was. Seeing Double is what you’d get if you took Spice World and took out all of its charm and charisma and had a chimp write the script.
4:35: Dang. I don't think I've ever heard Diva trash a real-world music group _that_ cruelly.
11:00: ...well, "the group splits up into one group infiltrating the clones and one group wardening the clones they haven't replaced" is a better explanation than I was expecting for having S-Club members share share as few scenes as possible with their own clones.
14:25: Dude, you've got them in your dungeon. Take a friggin' cheek swab.
Oh yeah.. I remember these kids! In Finland they used to show them during YLE's summertime children's block when I was about nine years old. Haven't heard of them since.
HELP! PLEASE!
I’m a loyal follower with nowhere else to turn. Last week, I watched Give My Regards to Broad Street all the way through with no breaks. Ever since, I have been struggling to process this movie’s awfulness, with no success.
Your wisdom helped me heal the childhood trauma that was the Sgt. Pepper’s movie, so I am hopeful that you can help me through this. Ironically, this movie also features Beatles’ covers, (performed by 0.5 of the group) as well as dialogue so dull that it almost makes one miss The Bee Gees’ silent mugging.
Please, Diva, find the courage to take on the cold case of this musical. Justice is long overdue, and your judgement might just bring closure for us all.
Oh, S Club 7. That takes me back.
The way I would have ate this up as a kid...S Club 7 was one of my favorite shows
I never heard of this movie, though I have heard of S Club 7. I even have one of their songs.
I saw the trailer for this film after it was revealed at the end of your last episode, and my first thought was "This film wants so hard to be Spice World that it hurts". I like Spice World btw, and actually plan on reviewing it in a future video.
Spice World was campy self aware fun and you can tell everyone had a good time making it even if it wasn’t going to become the next Citizen Kane. The Girls had chemistry with each other and interesting personalities. This movie has the S Club feeling really really flat and the personalities of a piece of paper. This is nothing more than some music video that is running far too long.
Hmm, I'd go as far as to say that the Musical credits sequence in Paddington 2 is superior to the prison sequence in this.
I never had a dream come true...until Diva decided to rake this over the coals.
10:21-10:25 If only Jack Torrance was in that maze.
Okay, I know this shouldn't be a point in this band's favor, but the sad reality is, considering some bands of this type I've seen, it kind of is; at least this band isn't only one gender or the other. Again, shouldn't be a point in its favor but, with how popular boy/girl bands are, and considering the other movie under this guy's belt is Spice World, it still took me a bit by surprise. Now if they could only make music that could keep me conscious, then we'd have something.
You've been short changed. Wyld Stallions were duplicated in "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey". And I think there were duplicate Beatles in one of their films.
I’m seeing double here! Twenty four S Clubs!
I recognize that "castle" shot and was VERY amused that you knew it and included.
*sees S-Club even being mentioned*
(Putting a pipe in my mouth) "Ah, yes, back when I was but a wee lass, when the world was less complicated and we threw rocks and Spice Girls CDs at each other or fun..."
You wanna know why S Club were down one member at this stage?
Paul, the guy who left, went to form a nu metal group.
Will you ever cover 365 Days trilogy, Diva? Sure, it's not a musical in a traditional sense, but for about 80% of its runtime we hear pop music playing over the scenes, so it may technically count? Anyway, I'd love to hear you serve it with punishments. :)
Best version of the evil clone version of a band created to take over the world? An episode of Japanese Tokusatsu Spider-Man. And even then, it doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense. There's this band that performs this song about how great Spider-Man is, and they're replaced with robot duplicates so they can perform the exact same song, but with a high pitched distortion that only spiders can hear that causes Spider-Man to have convulsions every time he hears that version of the song. And it's like, what is the point of robot duplicates of a band if it's just the high pitched whine that gets him? But at least it's more entertaining than this thing is.
15:19-15:24 Okay, that’s mildly funny.
love the songs of s club 7
Well, since I never heard of this band of drips. Guess I'm not missing much.
Would love to hear Diva's thoughts on the Death Note musical and it's English concept album.
15:46 I can maybe give the Groucho Marx and Marilyn Monroe references a pass. Of course, it falls apart at the Tom Green reference, where Green HAS a music career yet his overall default is "jokey piss-take rap".
This is a joke. This is a total joke RIGHT? DIVA, SAY IT'S A JOKE!!!
I wish it were, but it's unfortunately 100% real!
@@trinaq Okay. Now I'm upset...
My sister used to make me and a group of other kids watch this movie every Christmas!
oh, the sf armory. *places hand over heart.* you had such sights to show us.
I'm watching this because of paul, last friday one of members of S club 7 past away
I know it's corny but, for the sake of hilarity, I really hope Doug Walker reviews this movie mainly to give Malcolm a fake backstory of him being the black guy, Bradley, in S Club 7. Seriously, don't they look alike?! At least in some angles...
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I understood that reference.
I think I need Jesus.
Yep, that one will either fly over your head or slap you in the face.
I've never heard of them, and my life is better for it.
Never heard of this movie, but I do have a vague recollection of an S Club movie where they go back in time?
The henchwoman scene should be a sin alone. Besides the bad name. ( Technically she could have said I have many names, or I won't give you my real name but you may call me...) She doesn't even hurt Alistar . Does a few martial arts moves in front of him including the high kick. Then pushes him down (Or what looks to be a push down.) And he's out cold. Come On. I used to do martial arts. No. If she punched him as hard as it looks like she did. He would be on the ground either (sorry for sounding disgusting) puking or grabbing his ribs, he would have a bloody nose, maybe a shiner. split lip. And he could be out cold. Diva Any thoughts of the upcoming Monster High Musical? I think that maybe a future court case for you.
I love Josie and the Pussycats as the feature-length movie from 2001, plus I kinda remember the Hanna-Barbera cartoon from Cartoon Network reruns, well the titular song that is.
Wait so the band were in a movie? whoa
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I haven't watched this, but I'm surprised they had such a hard time giving them distinct personalities, because in the TV show they basically copy-pasted the archetypes from Friends.
I watched a musical the other week that I really want to see you review now. The Monster of Phantom Lake: The Musical
I'm not sure I've heard of The Scarecrow before.
That's the Richard Rich animated film from 2000. That's something I've been wanting Diva to do for a while!
Were S-Club-7 a big deal in their native UK? Here in the US, I think they only had that one hit, "Never Had a Dream Come True." Which I didn't even remember until I watched the Todd in the Shadows video on it!
Yes, they were. Also they were known in Europe too.
@@Locke350 I figured they were more popular overseas than here in America.
@@Locke350 I always had the impression they had that "America churns out so many musical acts it's really damn hard for any foreign act regardless of international popularity to break through" problem. ABBA never really became the mega-hit they were elsewhere since Fleetwood Mac kind of cornered the market they could have reached, and Kylie Minogue never completely broke through in America since Madonna was already there.
We had boy bands and pop groups being cranked out by the truckload, so why did we need to import?
Yes, there was even a spin off kids band called S Club Juniors (latter called S Club 8)
@@Eviltwin531 Yeah, I think that's why S-Clubmania never hit the US.
"There is no greater hell than to be trapped for eternity in a room with your friends."
-- Sayeth Sartre, to which we can now add one's own clones. And we learned THAT with Spider-Man.
S Club was way below my age level, but it sounded so stupid - it sounds like it wanted to be The Monkees but didn't have anything close to their talent as actors or as singers. No wonder they broke up after the movie came out.
I don't think I ever saw this movie back in the 2000's Era... and I guess I was better off for it...