Jim Jones Warns Against Running Away (Oct,1978) Side A
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- This tape consists of numerous segments, but they seem to center around two dates: a meeting, a series of announcements and the news of the day around October 13, 1978; and a Temple service in Los Angeles of an unknown date. As was often the case with the tapes in this collection, the people of Jonestown used previously-recorded tape that they no longer considered important.
In the older tape - which picks up for a few minutes after the first recorded conversation in Jonestown, and which returns intermittently throughout in brief snatches - Marceline Jones leads a Temple service in Los Angeles. Following the path of her husband, Marceline discloses personal information about several parishioners to prove that she speaks with the authority and spirit of Jim Jones, and offers prayer cloths to prevent heart attacks and dangerous accidents. After revealing that one older woman owns a green pantsuit, Marceline warns the woman not to wear it again until after a certain date to preclude a tragedy that would otherwise occur. Marceline also joins an unknown man in singing the hymn “Just a Closer Walk with Thee,” but they change the words of “God” and “Jesus” to “Father,” i.e., Jim Jones.
The balance of the tape was recorded in mid-October, 1978.
In Part 1, in a short conversation before a crowd of unknown size in Jonestown, Jim Jones confronts a young man who has apparently made a half-hearted attempt at suicide, and warns him about the generational consequences of such an act. “When you commit suicide, you’re in the worst kind of hell you ever were in…” he warns. “It don’t stop in no damn casket.”
Parts 3-5 consist of a series of announcements and warnings, most focusing on the problem caused by recent attempts to run away from Jonestown. Jones describes what awaits people who slip into the jungle - tigers, snakes, insects, and of course, the jungle itself - then adds that if they make it through to civilization, they are still not in the clear. The Jonestown leadership has made arrangements with the local police, the Guyana Defense Force, and even the U.S. Embassy to return anyone from Jonestown whom they find.
Jones is perplexed why anyone would want to return to the US - which he refers to as Babylon - but says he will grant passage to anyone who wishes to go home. The caveat is that they have to wait until everyone in the States who wishes to emigrate to Jonestown has arrived.
Part 6 takes up the entire second half of the tape. Jones begins by reading a long news analysis about the resurgence of racism in US education, as reflected in increasingly racially-segregated schools and growing disparities in funding between white and minority schools. The article then offers other proof of the “de facto apartheid” in the United States, including the substandard housing and rising crime in American ghettos. This leads into a discussion of labor and class struggle. The source of the article is unknown, but its rhetoric suggests that it came from a Soviet-bloc wire service or magazine, rather than from either Jones or his staff.
The specter of nuclear war is one which Jones himself raises twice near the end of the tape. The size of the NATO war games - described in his final news item - reflects the danger of imminent nuclear war. Then, as he signs off for the day, he reminds his people that they need to liberate everyone they can from the States because otherwise, “they’re doomed to nuclear annihilation,” since there’s no chance of survival in a country that will look “like a wasteland and a desert from East Coast to the West Coast.”
Damn Jim Jones was one sick man. Talking the way he did with those little kids listening.
@Toia Townes 😪
Drug-addled af.
Imagine if a few people had kicked over that juice vat and rushed the guards.
Imagine people rushed Pfizer HQ to find out what's in the jab.
That's pretty much it but they were terrified.
That wouldnt of mattered much. The other followers that were all about jim Jones would of rushed them and stuck them with needles containing cyanide. Cause that's what they did to those who fought against taking the drink, they were either stuck with a needle, or some even shot by the guards.
I agree. The idiots playing soldiers in the ' red brigade' were villains in this story. They are as to blame as ' Dad' for the murders. Eff them.
They would have been shot by Jones' goons
The singing is like listening to an EVP tape, very haunting.
OMG, I agree 100%
Sounds like some insidious stuff😭😂
it almost makes you wish you were there 😔
I was trying to find the right words to describe what I felt after carefully listening to the whole thing and you stated it perfectly.
It's the old electric organ, which is often uses in horror films. It's also the tremolo on the woman's voice, which is similar to a theramin, also often used in horror films. Yes, it sounds absolutely frightening.
6:24 Holy crap, that creepy singing freaked me out! Yikes!
OMG!!!! SHIT IS HORRIBLE
I did not know Yoko Ono was a Peoples Temple member.
Tiny Tim sings like that. I actually thought it was him.
What's the most fux*ked up is the killing of the children and those who didn't want to die. They must have been so so terrified. G*D Bless their souls.
Your kidding right ?
This is so interesting because I never knew people had tried to flee before that. I also imagine how much harder it made it for everyone else to get an opportunity with the constant roll calls and meeting plus security being up after that.
They ones who had tried to flee were buried in a box for a certain number of days. Can you imagine in the south American heat down there underground.
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Thanks for your comment my friend.
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Jones was obsessed with death as a child! Big red flag right there!
Facts 👍
that is heresay by a childhood bully.
How could these people even think that this man with the profane language is a man of God.
That's exactly what I'm thinking; what's with all the cursing??????
@@manofmanyinterests I think once he had them trapped in Guyana the profane language came out.
They didn't think he was a man of God, they thought he himself was God
He literally and figuratively threw the Bible out during a sermon. He told his church that religion and God are bullshit and that it was all merely a means to an end for him. As he blasphemed the congregation cheered, clapped, whooped, and shouted their support and agreement. They already could not think for themselves.
He had a professional therapist working alongside him (as stated in the actual suicide tape) and I suspect this had an impact on how he coerced his victims.
I like how he’s denouncing suicide here then he makes everyone commit suicide later.
When I was listening to this lunatic says that when push came to shove he had no problem with suicide with baby's and kids and older people intimidated and control and fear and humiliation of any members who was not the inner circle that's what Jim Jones and his inner used on these people sad part a lot of them was brainwashed to the very end
Icide
He convinced them that they weren't committing suicide but comitting "revolutionary suicide". 🙄 As if there's a true difference.
Yeah, his logic was bizarre. Commiting suicide is bad -- he often claimed in other tapes that people who commit suicide live in a virtual loop reincarnating in lost bodies of torment for eternity -- but the events of that final day were a stand against an unjust world. That's why they made the tapes and documented everything, too. On the off chance that someone, somewhere, in some distant future, would become inspired by them and pick up their gauntlet. Those who do not remember the past are fated to repeat it, indeed.
I suspect if Jones was right about suicide, then there are many poor, lost reincarnated souls from that fateful day in 1978, wandering around unaware that their bad luck in life comes from their past life following a madman to the grave.
It was not suicide. It was a revolutionary act.
As father said “So my opinion is that you be kind to children, and be kind to seniors, and take the potion like they used to take in Ancient Greece, and step over quietly; because we are not committing suicide - it's a revolutionary act.”
Henry, thank you for your videos. I'm on a deep dive doing research for a film . Your videos are priceless, filling in some gaps in my understanding of how this once-awesome community became a group suffering from mass psychosis.
Love your channel
Very historically interesting
Thank you for your kind comment and thanks for your support.
Henry Bemis
So creepy how he recorded all this stuff. Why? Who was he documenting all this rambling & torture for? Even the deaths were captured on record, which is highly odd. Who thinks of taping a mass murder/suicide in the middle of the jungle as all that chaos is going down? It's just very strange. So much of Jonestown's daily happenings were recorded on tape, video or paper. You'd think someone that paranoid wouldn't want any evidence of his abuse & law-breaking.
He was insane....
Hello. Thanks for commenting. I posted some more Jonestown Audio tapes on my channel. If you are interested check them out.
I know he used to play recordings of himself preaching constantly while they slept and during the day when he wasn't talking so I think that's why he recorded them.
Blew up in his face at the end and helped show us all how evil he really was.
MsNooneinparticular they were all orchestrated by Jim Jones. He wanted the whole world to know. You can hear him muffle the microphone when things don’t go the way he has scripted in his head. He was a progressive socialist and wanted to be remembered that way. These tapes are all a big middle finger to the West and capatalism. That is socialism for you. Never ends well.
I was saying this SAME thing to someone yesterday. Why the HELL was he recording this shit?!
Wow thank you for posting these! I have done so much research on the People's Temple from a psychological perspective, and have not heard many of these! So interesting and sad. I'm a new subscriber!
I am completely sickened and disgusted by these recordings. However, I can't stop listening because of my pity for the victims.
This guy loved to control people and have people believing in him. So much so that he found a way to live across the world and bring his desperate followers with him. He knew to control them better he had to put them in an area where they felt helpless. it's Truly remarkable how he did it and made this happen. It's disgusting what he did, but nonetheless, impressive.
@Mz. L. Saud True. Notice those who survived still lived horrible lives afterwards....(though to be fair it could have been due to the effects Jonestown had on them....nonetheless had they sought help I'm sure they could have overcome and move on to build healthy lives.) Commiting suicide...jail...crimes or early sickness.
Thus religion
Those people were absolutely dumb that’s it was how do you let a pastor slam a Bible an say I’m your god an you still listen then he already kept contradicting himself which proves he’s a manipulator once you say something an do the opposite your a hypocrite those are red flags
@@EmperorSheevPalpatine they lacked a brain that’s why
His singing and humming in that old hymn is so creepy… what an evil horrific man
Wow. I cant wrap my head around all this.god has their place in heaven
Great harmonizing ; a blessed choir❤😊
Wonderful man.
Sounder was a movie produced in 1972, about poverty and racism for a black family during the Great Depression starring Cicely Tyson, Paul Winfield and James Best.
Jim Jones loved the sound of his own voice! He was given way too much power by people desperate to believe in something then he dictated their life. Sorry state of affairs really
Excellent Choir
Racial antagonism was one of the diving boards
Between 20:00-22:00 he is on some serious downers,he is slurring his words badly.
He was higher than a hippie in a helicopter.....strung out on something
Henry Bemis hippie in a helicopter....hahahaha
Uppers & downers, a deadly mix for mental stability. Dude never slept & didn't let his followers sleep either, except THEY didn't have the luxury of taking stimulants to keep them alert. They should've slipped him some Thorazine & replaced his feel-good drugs with placebos.
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Henry Bemis are you a former member of the people's temple?
Like in an Ozzy Osbourne song, "Miracle Man, you're bullshit!"
0:49 what what what.... wow confusion huh. Just think if Jim Jones went 1st and all the men that Surrounded them with guns went 1st then 99% of the others would have just said F that and not done it.
This is Rich coming from him!😩
So this recording wasn't in Jonestown? He and his wife or mistress (on the tape) was in the states a month before the murder/suicide? This whole story is fascinating to me
Yeah you are hearing what the Cult members did way back in 1978....creepy huh?
Well considering he's screaming at everyone not to escape Jonestown I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that this tape was't made at Jonestown!
Very sick individual
Which place was this? Sounds like an indoor forum.
It’s the pavilion they had in Jonestown. Where they ended up dying later
Can you BELIEVE @ 0:50 he says, "Our mind goes BEYOND the casket, when you commit SUICIDE you're in the worst hell you've EVER been in". Like, whaaaat the f*ck!? Then turns around and DEMANDS that the whole congregation do JUST that the very next month (in November) after this recording. 😏
Just insane
@@angelakratky2844 I know, right. SMH...
I mean seriously, right. Wtf
That is just crazy!
Last resort.
He got backed up into a corner and he couldn't get out. And he knew damn well.
If I was in this situation I would have talked to the guards and say I'm not taking this bs until he does
I could have withstood the singing were it not for the shrill shrieking of the harpy
I see how people flocked to jim jones. He has a way of speaking. I myself do not believe a damn thing he says but I see why though. He seen no color and back then racism was huge as sadly it still is now.
Goes to show one has to think about what someone says, and - more importantly - about who someone is. Rhetoric means nothing: it’s who the person is and what that person does, their behavior, that’s important. For example, a militant vegetarian shouldn’t embrace Hitler merely because he was a vegetarian. Nor does his being a vegetarian invalidate that diet. But it doesn’t make him a good person any more than Jones’ professed anti-racism made him good. The guy swindled hundreds of black people out of their money, and eventually, their lives. That’s about as racist as someone can get in my book.
Everything he said on this tape was word salad and he contradicted himself 100 times in just 45 minutes.
Just like ANY evangelist con man
Is Anne Moore the person talking about Senior Citizens?
No, that's Mother Jones
@johnerickson4064 thank you
The second guessing clapping, the personal ramblings and rules making their own agendas and people going along with it is terrifying. Passive Chaos, no order.
Nice vibrato
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The woman singing sounds at times like yoko ono
sooo creepy
He was a prolific liar & master manipulator! Shameful.
Yep typical religious leader
Jones was obviously a drug addict ...this led to paranoia and irrationality...drugs killed those people as much as any sociopathic or psychotic tendancies. The same happened to Hitler, a mixture of uppers and then downers have nasty consequences. And the decline leads to a vicious circle.
No he had a crazy streak in him before all the drugs. Look at all the drugs rock-stars do. How many of them become cult leaders?
He had been planning mass suicide way before his addiction
Umm no he was a religious nut job
There's a tape where he used the n word like 5 or 6 times and the people were all cheering for him.
Because he did so much for the black community that they didn't think it was harmful and his church was the majority black. There were some survivors that said Jim was not white.
"Jim didn't come across as a white pastor. He was not white."
"He talked like he knew the black struggle and it was because of his upbringing that he knew what that was like."
"You didn't see Jim as white, he was just their pastor."
Thank you dad
blasphemous
Extremely blasphemous!!!
Damn his voice was creepy in his last days compared to his sermons early on
Don't forget to drink the flavored Kool-Aid!!
I wanted to after listening to that singing on here omg
Flavor aid
It was grape Flavor-aid.
Flavour Aid and potassium cyanide I think. Imagine how dangerous it must have been there afterwards.
Grape flavored! Yummm
Jones was completely mad by this point. The amphetamines and downers didn't help, but he was out of his fucking mind and just waiting for an.excuse to wipe his followers out.
That meth makes people extra paranoid.
14:01 thru 14:15 Off key and "out of sync" 😏...smh
charj67 - The entire duet was bad! 🤣
Me and my mate after a couple highballs.
He cussed some much with all those little children around.
He was a piece of work wasn't he?
@@henrybemis8913 he loved to hear himself talk.
@@tarialorehand MAGA
I would say yes call the police and turn me to the authorities then I will be out of here!!
What's disgusting to me is that they're singing "A Closer Walk With Thee" in reference to Jim. A song that's meant to be spiritual in the Christian walk and for our Lord and Savior Jesus, is being sung to worship this crazed cult leader. So creepy!
This was recorded in San Francisco, not Jonestown. It was before the big exodus. 1977, not 1978.
DUMB ASS.....part of this was recorded in Jonestown and the rest in LA....IDIOT...read the description above....
What s hypocrite! Talking about going against suicide!
Did anyone give birth while in Guyana?
More than 30 babies were born.
Please people just Read the Holy scriptures and learn from it God is love and our savior the savior of the world satan is a jealous a lier came to the world to steal kill and destroy 🙏
Jesus is a slave of Allaah and Allaah is all powerful lord of all worlds and most merciful and most forgiving and the one who established the law (sharia)... We must fear Allaah and obey him and bow our heads in submission to Almighty Alllaah but when we do this - we cannot bow down to any human man or fear him or obey him when he rejects the law of Allaah and chooses to oppress and abuse and victimize the innocent for his own wealth and power...when we fear Allaah - we fear no one but him... We gladly fight Jihad against any oppressor and criminal who humiliated the innocent and defenseless.
We bow down to no man and only bow down to Allaah the lord of All worlds. When we submit to Allaah as his slaves - we cannot be and refuse to be slaves of any man. When we fear only Allaah - we fear no one else. We hope for the support and help of Allaah and thus need not hope for the help of any human. We fear Gods punishment and hope for his mercy and have faith in his justice
@@sufimuslimlion4114 Fuck you, fuck your god and fuck your pedophile prophet
Silly religious people. Let's go for a drink. Grape flavored!
I just can’t figure out why he obsessed about the United States of America after he established himself in Guyana? He’s a liar
They wanted to arrest him for indecent behaviour in the gents toilets. He could never go back & was bitter about it. That's why he went crazy when ever anyone asked to leave. He was a complete nut job!
@@SantinaCrolla civilized compared to someone like you
@@johnnykurplutzo6789 civilized? Lol you sound just like one of his followers.
@@perezdavidangel only if he had fake B👀BS
@@SantinaCrolla I heard that he was bisexual, but never heard about that incident, but not doubting your statement.
My God.. that woman's horrid singing!!! Like something straight out of hell😂😂😂
Wow, the man was a preacher and uses God's name in vain.
Because he was a hypocrite, a lair, a manipulator, a con man, a down right human piece of garbage, damn there aren't enough words to describe what an asshat he was. There were a lot people who saw through his BS but couldn't leave due to fear that he instill in them. I honestly wish these people lived. They didn't deserve what happened. He was planning to kill these people since 1973. He had been talking about wanting to die for a very long time. What his wife is doing is telling them things that they dug into the trash to find so it would look like he had 'power' what a joke.
He was a self-described communist/socialist. He had contempt for Christianity
@@alisterthomson7923 you sound like you have a business.
@@johnnykurplutzo6789 mate what are you on about?
@@alisterthomson7923 on about? Aussie?
Make America GUYANA again
Does anyone else think that Jim Jones sounds like Donald Trump?
No - he is BLM all the way. This was a “progressive” movement.
I'am sad because this was a opportunity to try prove that the races could have worked and loved each other.
Yes, in many ways.
@@NewsHistorian You mean KKK?
Jones was a communist. If he were alive today, he might be Bernie Sanders' running mate.
It’s scary how much this guy sounds like most of the candidates running for the democrat nomination.
he was a trump supporter
What every abusive husband or boyfriend says to control their partners from leaving.