Bro, I never ever understood, why is an MG firing up against a tank ? To have a random chance of hitting someone looking trough the periscope ? Could you explain why ?
Btw the proper way to check if the tank is out of order and its crew dead, is to make sure that 1 buddy opens the hatch, second buddy throw a nade in there. hollywood...
I found a error that all historians amateurs do: On April 1945 it's pointless to say that the Allies have air superiority because the Lufftwaffe was still figthing them, but not like on 1939/1940
If you never knew, the troops that play as the SS in the movie, are actually British re-enactors who brought all their own kit, all the uniforms, weapons, vehicles that you saw the SS division use were their own. So understandably their German isn't the best, bearing in mind they are British.
That would justify bad accent, but not nonsensical shouting commands. Those lines were shot and apporoved by the director. It doesn't take much effort to google translate something more sensible like Platoon 1 Check the house. You three, check that tank."
the makers of the movie could have over-dubbed the reenactors, if they thought they didn't sound authentic enough and may have filled the scenes with bad German that sounded butch enough for their purposes.
But the problem is with what they say, "im Deckung" - take cover when the soldiers don't do anything like that, just run anywhere. "Schnell" - fast, it also makes no sense, because the soldiers do not even accelerate, even others do not accelerate and the Sturmoffizier itself does not. Cleaning the tank btw should look like the Germans should throw a grenade into the forehead, but that's by the way. Yes, I do not understand why give the British as Germans, if FURY had a large budget, where are the German extras? Where is the consultation with historians, veterans and military personnel in this film? Don't they know that tracers were expensive and were mainly used by aviation? And here everyone has them, Germans and Americans, Germans even have them in every machine gun, of course the Germans had them, every 5th bullet had this bullet, but not every machine gun had this ammunition. It looks like a Star Wars movie, not a WW2 movie
Or full of raw recuits that have little training and are just fueled by the will to fight for hitler. But motivation only goes so far with little training. I mean ss were elite but in April 1945 the most experienced were probably all dead or in Berlin at the time.
Sorry but they were too well equipped and had too many men that were 20 - 30 years of age to be raw recruits in 1945. If they were new they would've received less because soldiers with more experience would've received more due to the experience, and as pointed out in the movie when they bring more panzerfausts, and they say to take better aim cause those were the last ones they had. Why would they send that many panzerfausts with new recruits? And half of the other shit they did in the movie like running around and missing shots at a tank that's 10 feet away is not due to being new recruits, it's due to Hollywood betraying the best german units as dumb and easy to defeat for American propaganda.
Lets see, he was Sent with around 5 tanks well armored, the panzerfausts didnt hit important parts the SS we see lacked of training due to the experienced ones being in Berlin to defend it as soviets are there in no time, the last stand actually happend and it comes from a WW2 vet curious aint it. Made a mistake. Do not comment again. This was a year ago.
Make it specifically so Fury is just shooting at the SS pigs from far away, they all start running around like headless chickens and Fury finishes them off
Or a worse one. Making a film that is 1 to 1 historically accurate isn't really a best way. Like Fury was actually a pretty good film. Was it historically accurate. No. But I feel like if I wanted historical accuracy. I would have watched a documentary.
7:35 Just to mention, I read a couple of Panther's were equipped with night vision at the battle of the Seelow Heights in April '45. But was a new technology then, nobody else had it of course.
@@comradericefarmerhao2269 Yes, probably not that well known. But you find a lot of information by googling it. There was also a small night vision equipment for the StG 44. But it was so rare that it is safe to say it did "not existed". In any case, optics was quite advanced in Germany back then. The soviets took entire factories producing optical equipment and shipped it to Russia after the war for "technology transfer".
@@INSANESUICIDE Yes, it was actually quite bulky. Was not aware of the Soviet developments, but yes, they had night vision for their tankers. They even researched it before ww2.
its a hard pick for me to say wich scene was the worst cringe, the Panzerfausts who missed despite being so close that it was litteraly easier to hit than to miss are in my top 5
Using a machine gun or any lower caliber weapon against a tank isn't totally stupid and was a common tactic used to try and neutralize the optics, or at the very least blind the crew using them. Although, that mostly applied to forces without an abundance of anti-tank weaponry that, if they had some, would very much use them before losing half of their battalion. But Hollywood.
The use of tracers is entirely cinematic. Also those tracers still would contain steel cores. As was common for ammunition of the time. Given there basically standard ammunition, with an added magnesium pellet at it's base.
And considering it was night time, near pitch black out there, they wouldn't have the need to blind the tank anyway. On the contrary, shooting the tank with smallarms would make it difficult for the antitank soldiers to approach and neutralize the tank.
The tank would’ve been smashed almost immediately. A Sherman without Infantry support is basically a death wish, even against infantrymen, it’s a death wish.
Your right, I believe it was the Yom Kippur war where Israel lost a ludicrous amount of tanks that were at the front to Arab infantry because the Israeli armor had no infantry support.
@@Dbobcol the Arabs had newer tanks and they also had guided missile systems by this time I think. The Israeli only had Sherman's and Centurions which were older than the T-55/62 used by the Arabs.
@@Patrix299 The older Centurions will still far superior to anything the Arabs had, Their guns were accurate at a much greater range and the guns could depress much lower and elevate much higher which was a huge advantage in the Golan heights. Haven't you seen the vid where 7 or so centurions on the Heights held off 100's of Arab tanks
@@markbrandon7359 I didn't know that there was any extensive tank combat footage. But I would assume that training would also play a large part in their effectiveness.
@@Patrix299 The yon Kipper war, It's actually simulated tank battles (Greatest tank battles) but they have many of the commanders narrating what happened. I especially liked the commander who took on 100's of Arab tanks he told his tanks to move forward but nobody moved he asked if they were chickens and he moved forward soon all 7 of his tanks followed he said after he tried to count the destroyed Arab tanks but there were too many
3:55 the SS Commissioned Officer is a Obersturmführer equivalent to Oberleutnant to the regular army or 1st Lieutenant. He was just a more experienced platoon leader but it wasn’t too uncommon for 1st Lieutenant to lead a Company and this was very common in Stalingrad. The arm pumping is a German signal to move forward or move faster. It’s weird seeing both arms do it and I haven’t seen any manuals that show it. Oh and as you pointed out captains and Lieutenants looked almost the same as every one else wearing helmets and what not.
I honestly didn't watch this movie in theaters when it came out years ago and I'm glad I didn't... Your reaction and the actual information you pointed out in this video was really good and I laughed when you mentioned Nazi Zombies lol
The thing Is, they have panzerfausts and didnt use them guessing by the surprise attack planned by them they counted over a 100 men, they had no radio due to it being broken so Air support Is not an option, Also they was using tracer rounds but not AP or any kind of rounds That can damage the tank, by the start I can see no logic on the it's a SS battalion, SS was an elite MP/KGB looking dudes but most of the actually trained ones have to be in the Berlin, USSR and USAR/USMC Is pushing towards it so it makes no sense to think it was That simple for an SS battalion to be so far, the man explained well but I Saw no logic in the hate of the scene after all it Is a surprise attack and a movie.
@@supremealgo1 SS aren't really elite though, minus some units like LSSAH, Das Reich, Wiking etc. They're a paramilitary that got priority when it came to new kit like camouflage but generally the Heer had better quality troops than the SS.
Another Hollywood portrayal of WW2, just one in a long list... I'm so grateful my great grandad lived long enough to tell me a lot of his tales. Not a single one of them are how these movies portray. He bore his scars, shrapnel in his body and ghosts all the way until 1997. The most kindest and loving man I've ever known. I felt so safe and relaxed around him. Can't believe someone like him had to go through what he had. And yet he found love, understanding and compassion for others, never harmed a soul or lashed out despite what he went through that would break us regular and soft plebs. Films like this grind my gears on so many ways, it just disrespects the survivers and the fallen who fought for the rest to be able to make this sort of shit for "shock value"
Total US KIA of WW2 was 400k of which 300k were against the Germans on all fronts, north Africa, Italy, Atlantic, western front and of course the air campaign.
Largest land battle ever fought by the US. Huertgenforest, aka Huertgenwald. 45 000 Dead, Germany not clear but estimates are around 12 000 to 15 000. German troops were understaffed and low on ammo and everything. US troops were reserve at that point, but Germans were either combat hardenend vets or Volksgrenadier or Hitler Youth. Germans fought the battle of the Mekong Delta in Germany. To this day Hurtgenforest is off limits to visitors, only guided tours are allowed. The booby traps are still there. At least a movie was made in 1998 for HBO called "When Trumpets Fade". It is pretty brutal and graphic to be honest. But at least not rubbish like "Fury".
just discovered your channel and as a military history enthusiast I have to say I'm loving it. Great commentary, good explanations. Movie tropes like these have always been a pet peeve of mine as it makes many people believe that this is actually how ww2 went down. Also I like your idea for a better story here. I'd love to see your commentary on the classic Talvisota movie from 89, also maybe Land Of Mine could make for an interesting video. Have a good one
1. Very good German accent 2. You made many videos reacting to Hollywood movie scenes and I know that are looking forward to react to “Saving private Ryan” but may I suggest you do react to a European movie? Like the downfall, or the German “Stalingrad” movie (1993) 3. Do you have any good movie suggestions yourself?
1. Vielen Dank 😏 2. Stalingrad (1993) is up upon your request hehe 3. I will cover the good movies too but the rule of thumb is that if the screenwriter and or the movie director and or the actors actually fought, it is more likely to be a realistic movie
@@supremealgo1 I didn’t say the opposite. I just wanted to get a taste of more “unknown” movies (European mostly) that could be realistic. It’s just that SPR is a classic and I have seen it dozens of times in television.
it’s really nice to hear a non german speak out about this bs. If they filmed better there would have been a huge pile of dead germans all around the tank considering how many germans tried to melee the crew xd
OMG those Panzerfaust missed shots, they were at like 2 mts, is just point in the general direction and that's it. But, well, they missed because murica right?
This move is wasted potential. Wonderful costumes, props and vehicles , great cast wasted because of stupid screenplay made by guy who wrote equaly awful U-751.
Thats not the point of the movie The point of the movie is what war does to people. The scary soundtrack and the acting is what makes the movie uncomfortable, just like in reality. It supposes to tell the story of what US tankers go through when fighting through the German heartland, it gives a sense that the Germans will never give up and fight on till the very last man. I agree that there is some historical accuracy problems but you have to shed a little bit to properly tell a the story of war.
I hate this film which claims to show the horrors of war but it is actually glorifying violence in the most ridiculous way. You are right if the German soldiers were such idiots they had been stopped for good at the polish border and the mess of WW2 would have never happened. I hate nazism and we have to stick to the truth to prevent it. Nazi Germany was - thankfully - crushed by economical and material superiority AND the German Wehrmacht were very capable soldiers possibly the best army of WW2. Whenever the us army met an equal strength German unit the outcome was most likely a defeat … for the Americans. Any serious historian can confirm that (that excludes Stephen Ambrose who wrote band of brothers). Against this backdrop this scene is utter ridiculous. An experienced SS Unit would have made quick work of this sitting duck tank in less than 10 minutes … just surround it under cover and fire a couple anti tank weapons at it.
It felt like they were trying to make an Audie Murphy but only heard about what vaguely happened during his standoff and didn’t actually know how it went down
Btw after rewatching the movie after the tiger fight those two rounds the tiger got off busted the radio and busted either some mechanics that help reload the gun or mechanics that help rotate the turret ring they have to switch to manual and when he switches he goes for what I believe was the turret ring rotating crank
You know, im german myself and it makes me so mad they always act like the germans were noobs in fighting, its just not fair, because normal people acctully belive that crap. They think thats how it really was. If you make a war movie, than PLEASE in name of god make it only a little bit realistic. Oh and have you ever seen a war movie that shows realistic the german side in ww2? I dont think so, cuz i did not too!
They should really should just put at the beginning of the movie "it's not supposed to be historically accurate. It's purely a pure entertainment action movie" that way people won't rip into it for some historical inaccuracies. I enjoyed watching him rip into it though I actually learn alot from him then in a history class.
The movie had so much potential and has a lot of accurate scenes in it taken from footage or photos from WW2. Unfortunately its made for Hollywood and.the American market, has Brad Pitt as the main actor and everyone knows that Brad loves nothing better than killing Nazis. It like all the so called great American WW2 movies. Has potential, but then looses it to apease the masses.
One disabled Sherman, called not for nothing the Tomy Cooker, desyroyed a SS Batallion, probably part of Das Reich Division, one of the elite Waffen SS divisions, battle hardened from Eastern front, and particularly experts in dealing with attacking T34 Russian tanks by the thousands, for years.... what a pot of nonsence one man... one Pantzerfaust... Sherman is gone. Some of these movie directors from Hollywood must really do their hystorical homework for goodness sake!!
You ever noticed that in all movies, the bad guys are morons who rush into an ambush in close distance. In real life, targets are very far away. You lose your advantage at close range
Hollywood is useless at depicting fights and battles with any sense of realism. Pure shit. I don't know which scene was more laughable, this one or the Shermans vs the Tiger tank.
I love How HollyWood Portrays Germans As Dumb Fools Without Training,Meanwhile They are Feared During the War Because of Their Intelligence and tactics
I think the main reason to make the Germans here look like total idiots is to avoid glorifying them. Especially since the SS units were pretty well known for various indescrible actions. If people want to watch a good, authentic war movie I can only recommend Stalingrad(1993).
5:55 better question why didn't they just shoot there panzerfausts at the fkn tank each second guy has a panzerfaust there's only one tank why diddent they shoot the one tank thats out in the open with no cover!?!?
Hollywood thinks spouting anything in a foreign language is fine because they know even if it's wrong, one 80% of people aren't going to understand it anyway, and 2 they will just put subtitles even if what they are actually saying is completely different.
@@supremealgo1 Well yes but grandfather know how wars are fought nevertheless, he and I watched the very first battle in the film, and he just found it illogical and unrealistic, cause of how the germans constantly miss. Like at 200 yards with shermans moving up slow? Yeah he said that in reality they would of simply mark the targets and call in air support.
@@eugeneshin2852 Well, was there anyone with a radio in the first battle? It Is 1945 and in That time U.S had air taken over lufftwaffe was busy in bloody Berlin. They could not call air support in any way due to the situation.
@@supremealgo1 Ah, but in the end the film battle sequences are illogical for the most part. Germans kept missing even at 200 yards...there could of just simply been more tanks in the battle sequence to make the film more believable..
@@eugeneshin2852 But remember they lost the other tanks to a correctly shot panzerfaust and lost 2-3 to a Tiger and the battle vs the Tiger ended on damaging the tanks radio.
This film was otherwise good but this scene ruined it for me as well. One other scene that was bad was the first battle for the town. So the tank commander (Pitt) asks an elderly man with a cane "where the Germans are" and a German sniper then kills the old man instead of the exposed tank commander!! Made zero sense. With their position exposed, the Sherman blasts a hole in the building and kills dozens of Germans all concentrated there. Why didn't the Germans spread out among multiple buildings in their town to avoid that??? Another scene happened when a German machine gun hidden in a basement opened fire through the window killing several American soldiers but just waits there afterwards (instead of relocating fast after that) giving time for the Sherman to move its turret and kill them all with a tank round. And then this rambo/john wick scene, one vs 100 slaughter, at the end was awful for the reasons you described. Reminds me of the film 'Saving Private Ryan' when during the town battle at the end the Germans fought so badly. Slowly, out in the open, exposed, bad tank maneveurs. You should do a video on that. As an American as well, I can tell you the audience here doesn't like seeing Americans die at all. So in Hollywood movies it's always a slaughter of Germans with very minimal depiction of US deaths. The Pacific war with Japan is much different since it has a reputation of being more gruesome. But as you pointed out majority of US deaths were in Europe fighting the Germans, who were a far more intelligent and deligent foe, whereas the Japanese had suicide charges and were less conservative with attacks and weren't concerned about casualties.
1 Sherman vs 1 ss battalion the amount of Panzerfraust you see they can just lay down or get to cover and shoot the damn Sherman and when the fury crew get out the tank, they go into zombies' mode might Aswell make them zombies
This scene totally ruined the movie. The whole time in the theatre I was just laughing at how ridiculous it was. Not 1 guy could fire off a panzerfaust the time it goes from day to night. Such a joke of a scene.
Don't forget the Fury tank was disabled cause it ran over a mine. And don't they need the engine running to move the turret? That would have tipped off the Germans. Too bad Germans are portrayed as Sgt Shultz from Hogans Heroes
17:34 Actually...four tanks were tasked for that, three were lost in the batle against the Tiger and even the crew questions Brad Pitt`s orders of going on with the mission after Fury looses one of its tracks after hiting a mine
there was night vision in WW2 on tanks but just on the german side ( and ofc very very rare) ... on a Panther as "Uhu" ( and carried on a StG44 Vampire )
i think your story is way more compelling with one exception, i would have no survivors and the orders from battallion are just heard through the radio with a dying brad pit staring off in the distance
How many panzerfausts were being carried by that battalion earlier? Did they just lose them? Germans would’ve absolutely flanked the tank and annihilated it with those panzerfausts.
yes I have to agree with you in every way about most Hollywood movies. they German soldiers are acting as storm troopers and the tactics are all wrong. they always misfired, panicked. and I totally agree with you regard the German commander's outfit, that was bit strange without a helmet or a camouflage tunic or poncho . The movie Fury has some good firing affect and proper gears for both sides, but other than that the script is bad, they should have asked Ridley Scott to direct this film.
Dude it took me like a week to watch entire fury movie ... It litterally made me cryy... I love history and know alot about it but you dont need to know a lot to make a better movie
Your proposed ending makes more sense. It will still be action packed as there will still be engagements between the tank crew and the SS. We will be avoiding the unrealistic crap the movie gave us. Saw the movie before on DVD, I just fast forwarded to the battle scenes, the fight with the Tiger made me facepalm but the final battle was just cringey! Even if these were raw recruits (reenactors faces don’t look too young to me😊) they would have capable NCOs who know what to do in such a situation. Or being 1945, they’d just avoided the tank to live another day.
Fun fact to You, we are talking about a SS battalion outside of Berlin in 1945, hold up? Not possible as most of the experienced ones have to get to Berlin, have You realized USSR Is chasing the bloody nazis back to Berlin and U.S Is doing the same, the SS battalion lacked of training This dude Is a liar, he doesnt know Fury Is based of a tank That did a last stand, This makes sense they are surrounded by germans and they charged the tank with weapons he doesnt Even know how a tank works? They are armored extremely well and being a tank they may have a good amount of armor, doesnt make sense to call a movie unrealistic and not investigate the entire WW2 situation, 1945, Hitler died or escapes, and Saving Private Ryan was so close to D-DAY they had PTSD flashbacks, bloody guys knows Nothing apparently I AM sick man, investigate.
In my opinion I think this scene is loosely based on the lone KV-2 tank that actually blocked the entire railway line for 3 days during the Battle of Raseiniai in Lithuania on June 1941. Although not as exaggerated as you seen on this movie.
Nah, the stories are too different. Also come on Americans knowing anything other tham American history that's absurd!(sarcasm) It's feels more based off the story of Frey Bentos, an immobilised British Mk.V tank that held off German infantry attacks for 3 straight days
@@hansnoor9637 well... KV-2 had 75mm armor all around, while a M4A3E8 have up to 90-100 mm of effective thickness frontally, 38mm on the sides and 63mm on the turret sides
Brad pitt and his crew were protected by several layers of plot armor so i guess that makes sense. Also some Volksturm kids destroyed dozens of Soviet tanks.
This scene was ridiculous... a shame because the rest of the movie was good and tense! But this part was embarrassing and on top of that goes on forever!
@@historylegends awesome! Aldo I enjoyed your last reaction. I really enjoy non holwoodized films. April 9th was recommend to me and I really enjoyed it.
Panzerfaust's would have made short work of Fury. At this point of the war, the soldiers, even the SS, would have been pretty rag tag and not so squared with their uniforms.
Perhaps not one thing the Germans excelled at is ad hock units, Germans returning from leave from a dozen differant units, rested, refitted and fresh could be thrown together in a Kamph Gruppe and perform as a veteran unit
Enjoy your vids, you are a very knowledgeable guy. Can’t believe not one German could flank the tank or even get behind it to take it out with a panzerfaust, very far fetched. That’s Hollywood I guess.
This battle made me so mad... If somehow a battalion marched into this tank ambush, they would have fired and killed a few. Then been flanked and wiped out by panzerfausts a few minutes later.
well, it's not that stupid to use a MG to shoot a tank. 6:40 Let me explain myself: The soldiers often used to do that in way to worse the tank crew's efficiency. If you're the hull gunner and you're reciving mg fire and bullet tracers sparks on your visual, it would be harder to take down the enemy infantry. Good video btw! LIL "STAR WARS" EDIT!: And you may know it but: The coloured bullets, those are tracer bullets, made to see where are you shooting at. Very common in tanks and MG's
5:01 Why didn’t they just lock the hatch to prevent the German soldier from opening it like that? They put locks on the hatches to prevent that from happening.
I am not sure if anyone has said it but the real story that this scene is based on is even more unbelievable. Yes this scene is makes it unbelievable because of the proximity but read the story of Audie Murphy. He actually sent his men to the woods, he by himself held the germans off. From an on fire tank he stood on top of it firing the .50 caliber machine gun while also directing artillery fire from his radio. He inflicted about 50 German casualties. Audie Murphy's stories of heroism from the war are so amazing that I am sure most people wouldn't believe it if they made a movie from it. They did actually from this even called "To HEll and BAck" in the 50s. His memoirs and book go by the same name.
I think the whole story about this fight is not very sense filled, I can't imagine there's any intact SS Battalion in April 1945 with battle hardened Veterans and such good equipment as these guys are. The troops, or should I say children shown in the first parts of the movie are more realistic. I spoke with many German child soldier veterans from Volkssturm or HJ and they told much about the bad equipment, like french rifles with Italian ammo etc and many of them weren't older than 12 or 13. And they weren't many, I never heard about units larger than a company in platoon size, except in those famous pockets like Berlin or Breslau but in general that's what it must have been.
Also the Waffen SS saw a large number of redundant Luftwaffe and Kreigsmarine personnel pressganged into service. A unit of this caliber may have existed in the East but mainly from foriegn volunteers with nothing to lose.
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Bro, I never ever understood, why is an MG firing up against a tank ? To have a random chance of hitting someone looking trough the periscope ? Could you explain why ?
Btw the proper way to check if the tank is out of order and its crew dead, is to make sure that 1 buddy opens the hatch, second buddy throw a nade in there. hollywood...
I found a error that all historians amateurs do: On April 1945 it's pointless to say that the Allies have air superiority because the Lufftwaffe was still figthing them, but not like on 1939/1940
Hey what is the song that the German singing I can’t find it anywhere?
@@justusminor1589 It's a remix of a song of the SS
I lost brain cells watching this scene in theatre’s. Thanks for giving it a proper verbal beating.
My pleasure ;)
a true beat down
I gained braincells by watching this scene
I fuckin cringed watching that scene 😬
Same
If you never knew, the troops that play as the SS in the movie, are actually British re-enactors who brought all their own kit, all the uniforms, weapons, vehicles that you saw the SS division use were their own. So understandably their German isn't the best, bearing in mind they are British.
That would justify bad accent, but not nonsensical shouting commands. Those lines were shot and apporoved by the director. It doesn't take much effort to google translate something more sensible like Platoon 1 Check the house. You three, check that tank."
If you watch the full scene you can hear a random SS soldier in a English shout "what de fuk is going on" with a bad German accent lol
50 man vs 1 tank and no One was able to flank a tank that cannot move ?
the makers of the movie could have over-dubbed the reenactors, if they thought they didn't sound authentic enough and may have filled the scenes with bad German that sounded butch enough for their purposes.
But the problem is with what they say, "im Deckung" - take cover when the soldiers don't do anything like that, just run anywhere. "Schnell" - fast, it also makes no sense, because the soldiers do not even accelerate, even others do not accelerate and the Sturmoffizier itself does not. Cleaning the tank btw should look like the Germans should throw a grenade into the forehead, but that's by the way.
Yes, I do not understand why give the British as Germans, if FURY had a large budget, where are the German extras? Where is the consultation with historians, veterans and military personnel in this film? Don't they know that tracers were expensive and were mainly used by aviation? And here everyone has them, Germans and Americans, Germans even have them in every machine gun, of course the Germans had them, every 5th bullet had this bullet, but not every machine gun had this ammunition. It looks like a Star Wars movie, not a WW2 movie
considering that this is meant to be an SS battalion in APRIL 1945, theyd be battle hardened and shouldve been able to destroy the tank with ease
Or full of raw recuits that have little training and are just fueled by the will to fight for hitler. But motivation only goes so far with little training. I mean ss were elite but in April 1945 the most experienced were probably all dead or in Berlin at the time.
@@sgtspooktaylor9552 ^
@@sgtspooktaylor9552 exactly
Sorry but they were too well equipped and had too many men that were 20 - 30 years of age to be raw recruits in 1945. If they were new they would've received less because soldiers with more experience would've received more due to the experience, and as pointed out in the movie when they bring more panzerfausts, and they say to take better aim cause those were the last ones they had. Why would they send that many panzerfausts with new recruits? And half of the other shit they did in the movie like running around and missing shots at a tank that's 10 feet away is not due to being new recruits, it's due to Hollywood betraying the best german units as dumb and easy to defeat for American propaganda.
@@sgtspooktaylor9552 the last ss battalion made was in 1943 so they were all battle hardened.
Get this guy a 14 million dollar USD budget, and a role of a movie director to make a better version of fury.
Lets see, he was Sent with around 5 tanks well armored, the panzerfausts didnt hit important parts the SS we see lacked of training due to the experienced ones being in Berlin to defend it as soviets are there in no time, the last stand actually happend and it comes from a WW2 vet curious aint it.
Made a mistake.
Do not comment again.
This was a year ago.
Make it specifically so Fury is just shooting at the SS pigs from far away, they all start running around like headless chickens and Fury finishes them off
@@KillerT-Bone mimimi ?!
Or a worse one. Making a film that is 1 to 1 historically accurate isn't really a best way. Like Fury was actually a pretty good film. Was it historically accurate. No. But I feel like if I wanted historical accuracy. I would have watched a documentary.
I would love a movie based on the book the last panther
7:35 Just to mention, I read a couple of Panther's were equipped with night vision at the battle of the Seelow Heights in April '45. But was a new technology then, nobody else had it of course.
I didn’t know that thank you
@@comradericefarmerhao2269 Yes, probably not that well known. But you find a lot of information by googling it. There was also a small night vision equipment for the StG 44. But it was so rare that it is safe to say it did "not existed". In any case, optics was quite advanced in Germany back then. The soviets took entire factories producing optical equipment and shipped it to Russia after the war for "technology transfer".
There were soviet night vision devices, and even a "smaller" device for the STG44, small being relative, it was a giant backpack as a power unit.
@@INSANESUICIDE Yes, it was actually quite bulky. Was not aware of the Soviet developments, but yes, they had night vision for their tankers. They even researched it before ww2.
The continous humiliation of the German people is strong in this movie.
its a hard pick for me to say wich scene was the worst cringe, the Panzerfausts who missed despite being so close that it was litteraly easier to hit than to miss are in my top 5
the US Military was hoping for a new wave of fresh recruits with FURY
@@historylegends really, cause oof,
Yeah even hitleryouth with panzerfausts were hella efficient, many stories of them taking out tanks and fighting hard.
@@kaisetsualex3572 Fun fact, many germans disliked Adolfs idea but they had no choice traitors after all we're hanged.
@@supremealgo1 Fun fact: stop giving this scene the benefit of the doubt
Using a machine gun or any lower caliber weapon against a tank isn't totally stupid and was a common tactic used to try and neutralize the optics, or at the very least blind the crew using them.
Although, that mostly applied to forces without an abundance of anti-tank weaponry that, if they had some, would very much use them before losing half of their battalion. But Hollywood.
Well the MG42'S did no damage they was tracer rounds it was dark and hard to see, but Also what kind of rounds aside from tracers was in use?
The use of tracers is entirely cinematic. Also those tracers still would contain steel cores. As was common for ammunition of the time. Given there basically standard ammunition, with an added magnesium pellet at it's base.
Very well pointed out. 👍 It was also used to force the tank crew to "button up", closing their vision slits and become basically blind.
And considering it was night time, near pitch black out there, they wouldn't have the need to blind the tank anyway. On the contrary, shooting the tank with smallarms would make it difficult for the antitank soldiers to approach and neutralize the tank.
@@Hukkavei In that I can agree.
The tank would’ve been smashed almost immediately. A Sherman without Infantry support is basically a death wish, even against infantrymen, it’s a death wish.
Your right, I believe it was the Yom Kippur war where Israel lost a ludicrous amount of tanks that were at the front to Arab infantry because the Israeli armor had no infantry support.
@@Dbobcol the Arabs had newer tanks and they also had guided missile systems by this time I think. The Israeli only had Sherman's and Centurions which were older than the T-55/62 used by the Arabs.
@@Patrix299 The older Centurions will still far superior to anything the Arabs had, Their guns were accurate at a much greater range and the guns could depress much lower and elevate much higher which was a huge advantage in the Golan heights. Haven't you seen the vid where 7 or so centurions on the Heights held off 100's of Arab tanks
@@markbrandon7359 I didn't know that there was any extensive tank combat footage. But I would assume that training would also play a large part in their effectiveness.
@@Patrix299 The yon Kipper war, It's actually simulated tank battles (Greatest tank battles) but they have many of the commanders narrating what happened. I especially liked the commander who took on 100's of Arab tanks he told his tanks to move forward but nobody moved he asked if they were chickens and he moved forward soon all 7 of his tanks followed he said after he tried to count the destroyed Arab tanks but there were too many
The movie is not about historical accuracy but about how fancy Brad PITT's hairstyle is.
3:55 the SS Commissioned Officer is a Obersturmführer equivalent to Oberleutnant to the regular army or 1st Lieutenant. He was just a more experienced platoon leader but it wasn’t too uncommon for 1st Lieutenant to lead a Company and this was very common in Stalingrad. The arm pumping is a German signal to move forward or move faster. It’s weird seeing both arms do it and I haven’t seen any manuals that show it. Oh and as you pointed out captains and Lieutenants looked almost the same as every one else wearing helmets and what not.
That arm motion is universal to all soldiers, it means on the double.
@@genek8630 cool I guess but I said that already.
I honestly didn't watch this movie in theaters when it came out years ago and I'm glad I didn't... Your reaction and the actual information you pointed out in this video was really good and I laughed when you mentioned Nazi Zombies lol
The thing Is, they have panzerfausts and didnt use them guessing by the surprise attack planned by them they counted over a 100 men, they had no radio due to it being broken so Air support Is not an option, Also they was using tracer rounds but not AP or any kind of rounds That can damage the tank, by the start I can see no logic on the it's a SS battalion, SS was an elite MP/KGB looking dudes but most of the actually trained ones have to be in the Berlin, USSR and USAR/USMC Is pushing towards it so it makes no sense to think it was That simple for an SS battalion to be so far, the man explained well but I Saw no logic in the hate of the scene after all it Is a surprise attack and a movie.
The film is actually very good, but simly not historically accurate.
@@supremealgo1 SS aren't really elite though, minus some units like LSSAH, Das Reich, Wiking etc. They're a paramilitary that got priority when it came to new kit like camouflage but generally the Heer had better quality troops than the SS.
@@Patrix299 Well Yes, but the ones with experience still had to be in Berlin, what a call.
@@supremealgo1 Some units in Berlin were also units that took heavy losses at the front. And some were garrison units with little combat experience.
Hollywood shall NEVER touch on WW2 again
The German army in Hollywood movies are as easy to knock over as Imperial Storm Troopers in Star Wars.
Another Hollywood portrayal of WW2, just one in a long list...
I'm so grateful my great grandad lived long enough to tell me a lot of his tales. Not a single one of them are how these movies portray.
He bore his scars, shrapnel in his body and ghosts all the way until 1997. The most kindest and loving man I've ever known. I felt so safe and relaxed around him. Can't believe someone like him had to go through what he had.
And yet he found love, understanding and compassion for others, never harmed a soul or lashed out despite what he went through that would break us regular and soft plebs.
Films like this grind my gears on so many ways, it just disrespects the survivers and the fallen who fought for the rest to be able to make this sort of shit for "shock value"
Total US KIA of WW2 was 400k of which 300k were against the Germans on all fronts, north Africa, Italy, Atlantic, western front and of course the air campaign.
The best part for me in this scene was how brad was able to insult the SS as he was killing them all.
Largest land battle ever fought by the US. Huertgenforest, aka Huertgenwald. 45 000 Dead, Germany not clear but estimates are around 12 000 to 15 000. German troops were understaffed and low on ammo and everything. US troops were reserve at that point, but Germans were either combat hardenend vets or Volksgrenadier or Hitler Youth. Germans fought the battle of the Mekong Delta in Germany. To this day Hurtgenforest is off limits to visitors, only guided tours are allowed. The booby traps are still there. At least a movie was made in 1998 for HBO called "When Trumpets Fade". It is pretty brutal and graphic to be honest. But at least not rubbish like "Fury".
the problem with this movie,is that all the absurd inconsistencies end up distracting you from the overall visuals,that technically are not bad
just discovered your channel and as a military history enthusiast I have to say I'm loving it. Great commentary, good explanations. Movie tropes like these have always been a pet peeve of mine as it makes many people believe that this is actually how ww2 went down. Also I like your idea for a better story here.
I'd love to see your commentary on the classic Talvisota movie from 89, also maybe Land Of Mine could make for an interesting video. Have a good one
Nice been waiting for this
1. Very good German accent
2. You made many videos reacting to Hollywood movie scenes and I know that are looking forward to react to “Saving private Ryan” but may I suggest you do react to a European movie? Like the downfall, or the German “Stalingrad” movie (1993)
3. Do you have any good movie suggestions yourself?
1. Vielen Dank 😏
2. Stalingrad (1993) is up upon your request hehe
3. I will cover the good movies too but the rule of thumb is that if the screenwriter and or the movie director and or the actors actually fought, it is more likely to be a realistic movie
I just have to Say, many vets said Private Ryan D-DAY looked real.
@@supremealgo1 I didn’t say the opposite. I just wanted to get a taste of more “unknown” movies (European mostly) that could be realistic. It’s just that SPR is a classic and I have seen it dozens of times in television.
@@lutral.4789 Try unknown soldier finland film
I recommend watching some Norwiegen WW2 movies.
1. 12th man
2. The Kings Choice
3. Max Manus
4. Upcoming movie: battle of Narvik coming out this year.
it's extremely easy to ambush an immobilized tank. in fact, at close range, they're death traps
it’s really nice to hear a non german speak out about this bs. If they filmed better there would have been a huge pile of dead germans all around the tank considering how many germans tried to melee the crew xd
OMG those Panzerfaust missed shots, they were at like 2 mts, is just point in the general direction and that's it. But, well, they missed because murica right?
This move is wasted potential. Wonderful costumes, props and vehicles , great cast wasted because of stupid screenplay made by guy who wrote equaly awful U-751.
...and now he is planning to recreate the battle of El Alamein...
@@historylegends whaaaat
You nailed it. Some of the dialogue was contemporary not 1945
Thats not the point of the movie
The point of the movie is what war does to people. The scary soundtrack and the acting is what makes the movie uncomfortable, just like in reality. It supposes to tell the story of what US tankers go through when fighting through the German heartland, it gives a sense that the Germans will never give up and fight on till the very last man. I agree that there is some historical accuracy problems but you have to shed a little bit to properly tell a the story of war.
@@Fr1thar there are zero things accurate in this film godzilla killing hitler in the end wouldn’t even surprise me
Its propably too late to comment on this video, but the germans in this battle behave just as dumb as AI units in Gates of hell : Ostfront.
12:07
😭😂😭😂
Why you are my favorite TH-camr
This is a Soviet-level of propaganda film. Never thought I ever live to see something like this again. :'D
The thing is, my main favourite part of this battle is actually the German sniper with his full camo kit trying to finish off the crew
4:11 Hearts of Iron 3 in a nutshell
Lol
His anger expressed my own reaction when I first saw this film
I hate this film which claims to show the horrors of war but it is actually glorifying violence in the most ridiculous way. You are right if the German soldiers were such idiots they had been stopped for good at the polish border and the mess of WW2 would have never happened. I hate nazism and we have to stick to the truth to prevent it. Nazi Germany was - thankfully - crushed by economical and material superiority AND the German Wehrmacht were very capable soldiers possibly the best army of WW2. Whenever the us army met an equal strength German unit the outcome was most likely a defeat … for the Americans. Any serious historian can confirm that (that excludes Stephen Ambrose who wrote band of brothers). Against this backdrop this scene is utter ridiculous. An experienced SS Unit would have made quick work of this sitting duck tank in less than 10 minutes … just surround it under cover and fire a couple anti tank weapons at it.
If the Germans actually fought like that the war would have been over by Christmas...
in 1940
It felt like they were trying to make an Audie Murphy but only heard about what vaguely happened during his standoff and didn’t actually know how it went down
Btw after rewatching the movie after the tiger fight those two rounds the tiger got off busted the radio and busted either some mechanics that help reload the gun or mechanics that help rotate the turret ring they have to switch to manual and when he switches he goes for what I believe was the turret ring rotating crank
You know, im german myself and it makes me so mad they always act like the germans were noobs in fighting, its just not fair, because normal people acctully belive that crap. They think thats how it really was. If you make a war movie, than PLEASE in name of god make it only a little bit realistic. Oh and have you ever seen a war movie that shows realistic the german side in ww2? I dont think so, cuz i did not too!
They should really should just put at the beginning of the movie "it's not supposed to be historically accurate. It's purely a pure entertainment action movie" that way people won't rip into it for some historical inaccuracies. I enjoyed watching him rip into it though I actually learn alot from him then in a history class.
Yeah not like it comes from a WW2 vet. About a real last stand. Dumbkoffs didnt investigate it.
@@supremealgo1 wehraboo
@@sneakycactus8815 I apologize, me a year ago was the one wrong.
The movie had so much potential and has a lot of accurate scenes in it taken from footage or photos from WW2.
Unfortunately its made for Hollywood and.the American market, has Brad Pitt as the main actor and everyone knows that Brad loves nothing better than killing Nazis.
It like all the so called great American WW2 movies.
Has potential, but then looses it to apease the masses.
One disabled Sherman, called not for nothing the Tomy Cooker, desyroyed a SS Batallion, probably part of Das Reich Division, one of the elite Waffen SS divisions, battle hardened from Eastern front, and particularly experts in dealing with attacking T34 Russian tanks by the thousands, for years.... what a pot of nonsence
one man... one Pantzerfaust... Sherman is gone. Some of these movie directors from Hollywood must really do their hystorical homework for goodness sake!!
You ever noticed that in all movies, the bad guys are morons who rush into an ambush in close distance. In real life, targets are very far away. You lose your advantage at close range
The entire tank was shot with thousands of bullets , but the machine gun and ammobox on top are absolutely untouched and usable? What!?!?
What’s the movie with the Japanese at 8:50?
Hollywood is useless at depicting fights and battles with any sense of realism. Pure shit. I don't know which scene was more laughable, this one or the Shermans vs the Tiger tank.
I love How HollyWood Portrays Germans As Dumb Fools Without Training,Meanwhile They are Feared During the War Because of Their Intelligence and tactics
Never thought something could be so bad as this scene. Legit lost brain cells.
The US Fairy Tales. 50 Country vs Germany.
I think the main reason to make the Germans here look like total idiots is to avoid glorifying them. Especially since the SS units were pretty well known for various indescrible actions.
If people want to watch a good, authentic war movie I can only recommend Stalingrad(1993).
this film is so poor
a panzerfaust in the side of the sherman would have ended this battle in 3 secs
SS battalion with antitank weapons , panzerfaust and they lost 90% of the troops 😂😂😂
Whenever someone tells me Fury was a good warmovie 🙄
5:55 better question why didn't they just shoot there panzerfausts at the fkn tank each second guy has a panzerfaust there's only one tank why diddent they shoot the one tank thats out in the open with no cover!?!?
Hollywood thinks spouting anything in a foreign language is fine because they know even if it's wrong, one 80% of people aren't going to understand it anyway, and 2 they will just put subtitles even if what they are actually saying is completely different.
Even my grandfather laughed at how inaccurate the film was...and he was a veteran of the Korean War...
Hold up isnt That one around the 50's? Isnt Fury about armored division tank named Fury? In the 45?
@@supremealgo1 Well yes but grandfather know how wars are fought nevertheless, he and I watched the very first battle in the film, and he just found it illogical and unrealistic, cause of how the germans constantly miss. Like at 200 yards with shermans moving up slow? Yeah he said that in reality they would of simply mark the targets and call in air support.
@@eugeneshin2852 Well, was there anyone with a radio in the first battle? It Is 1945 and in That time U.S had air taken over lufftwaffe was busy in bloody Berlin. They could not call air support in any way due to the situation.
@@supremealgo1 Ah, but in the end the film battle sequences are illogical for the most part. Germans kept missing even at 200 yards...there could of just simply been more tanks in the battle sequence to make the film more believable..
@@eugeneshin2852 But remember they lost the other tanks to a correctly shot panzerfaust and lost 2-3 to a Tiger and the battle vs the Tiger ended on damaging the tanks radio.
The most rediculous unrealistic battle scene ever. It belongs in lord of the rings or some computer game.
On April 1945 most of the remaining SS divisions the leibstandarte,totenkopf,das Reich,hitlerjugend were in Hungary
This film was otherwise good but this scene ruined it for me as well.
One other scene that was bad was the first battle for the town. So the tank commander (Pitt) asks an elderly man with a cane "where the Germans are" and a German sniper then kills the old man instead of the exposed tank commander!! Made zero sense. With their position exposed, the Sherman blasts a hole in the building and kills dozens of Germans all concentrated there. Why didn't the Germans spread out among multiple buildings in their town to avoid that??? Another scene happened when a German machine gun hidden in a basement opened fire through the window killing several American soldiers but just waits there afterwards (instead of relocating fast after that) giving time for the Sherman to move its turret and kill them all with a tank round. And then this rambo/john wick scene, one vs 100 slaughter, at the end was awful for the reasons you described.
Reminds me of the film 'Saving Private Ryan' when during the town battle at the end the Germans fought so badly. Slowly, out in the open, exposed, bad tank maneveurs. You should do a video on that. As an American as well, I can tell you the audience here doesn't like seeing Americans die at all. So in Hollywood movies it's always a slaughter of Germans with very minimal depiction of US deaths. The Pacific war with Japan is much different since it has a reputation of being more gruesome. But as you pointed out majority of US deaths were in Europe fighting the Germans, who were a far more intelligent and deligent foe, whereas the Japanese had suicide charges and were less conservative with attacks and weren't concerned about casualties.
1 Sherman vs 1 ss battalion the amount of Panzerfraust you see they can just lay down or get to cover and shoot the damn Sherman and when the fury crew get out the tank, they go into zombies' mode might Aswell make them zombies
After watching this movie.. I couldn't wait for that damm tank to be blown sky high.. The movie was ridiculous..
Things like this only in Hollywood
This scene totally ruined the movie. The whole time in the theatre I was just laughing at how ridiculous it was. Not 1 guy could fire off a panzerfaust the time it goes from day to night. Such a joke of a scene.
😂 I watched 15 minutes and turned it off, you're 1000000 percent correct
Don't forget the Fury tank was disabled cause it ran over a mine. And don't they need the engine running to move the turret? That would have tipped off the Germans. Too bad Germans are portrayed as Sgt Shultz from Hogans Heroes
17:34 Actually...four tanks were tasked for that, three were lost in the batle against the Tiger and even the crew questions Brad Pitt`s orders of going on with the mission after Fury looses one of its tracks after hiting a mine
There were 5 actually, the first tank was destroyed in an ambush
@@ntrooper0619 Yes, but no, when the first tank got ambushed by the kid with the panzerfaust, they were in another mission/task
there was night vision in WW2 on tanks but just on the german side ( and ofc very very rare) ... on a Panther as "Uhu" ( and carried on a StG44 Vampire )
i think your story is way more compelling with one exception, i would have no survivors and the orders from battallion are just heard through the radio with a dying brad pit staring off in the distance
ur channel deserves more hype
Eventually hehe you will be among the OG crew
How many panzerfausts were being carried by that battalion earlier? Did they just lose them? Germans would’ve absolutely flanked the tank and annihilated it with those panzerfausts.
yes I have to agree with you in every way about most Hollywood movies. they German soldiers are acting as storm troopers and the tactics are all wrong. they always misfired, panicked. and I totally agree with you regard the German commander's outfit, that was bit strange without a helmet or a camouflage tunic or poncho . The movie Fury has some good firing affect and proper gears for both sides, but other than that the script is bad, they should have asked Ridley Scott to direct this film.
Dude it took me like a week to watch entire fury movie
... It litterally made me cryy... I love history and know alot about it but you dont need to know a lot to make a better movie
garbage movie... you need to get out more.
The entire movie is wrong about German tactics like the tiger tank battle I get frustrated when I watch
"are they trying to bite him?" , i fucking died like that german
Your proposed ending makes more sense. It will still be action packed as there will still be engagements between the tank crew and the SS. We will be avoiding the unrealistic crap the movie gave us. Saw the movie before on DVD, I just fast forwarded to the battle scenes, the fight with the Tiger made me facepalm but the final battle was just cringey! Even if these were raw recruits (reenactors faces don’t look too young to me😊) they would have capable NCOs who know what to do in such a situation. Or being 1945, they’d just avoided the tank to live another day.
Fun fact to You, we are talking about a SS battalion outside of Berlin in 1945, hold up? Not possible as most of the experienced ones have to get to Berlin, have You realized USSR Is chasing the bloody nazis back to Berlin and U.S Is doing the same, the SS battalion lacked of training This dude Is a liar, he doesnt know Fury Is based of a tank That did a last stand, This makes sense they are surrounded by germans and they charged the tank with weapons he doesnt Even know how a tank works? They are armored extremely well and being a tank they may have a good amount of armor, doesnt make sense to call a movie unrealistic and not investigate the entire WW2 situation, 1945, Hitler died or escapes, and Saving Private Ryan was so close to D-DAY they had PTSD flashbacks, bloody guys knows Nothing apparently
I AM sick man, investigate.
In my opinion I think this scene is loosely based on the lone KV-2 tank that actually blocked the entire railway line for 3 days during the Battle of Raseiniai in Lithuania on June 1941. Although not as exaggerated as you seen on this movie.
KV 2 is thick as hell. It is whole different class
Nah, the stories are too different. Also come on Americans knowing anything other tham American history that's absurd!(sarcasm)
It's feels more based off the story of Frey Bentos, an immobilised British Mk.V tank that held off German infantry attacks for 3 straight days
@@hansnoor9637 well... KV-2 had 75mm armor all around, while a M4A3E8 have up to 90-100 mm of effective thickness frontally, 38mm on the sides and 63mm on the turret sides
@@danko8983 but it also didn't have to fight panzerfausts/etc. in 1941 untill the germans bring 88s the KV-2 is going to be near invulnerable.
@@k-874 Agreed. I should really put loosely based on then for the lone KV-2
Like "Call of duty" single player on easy mode
you did an excellent job h.l.
Brad pitt and his crew were protected by several layers of plot armor so i guess that makes sense.
Also some Volksturm kids destroyed dozens of Soviet tanks.
This scene was ridiculous... a shame because the rest of the movie was good and tense! But this part was embarrassing and on top of that goes on forever!
Nice work. Can you react to the unknown soldier series or generation war.
Yes absolutely
@@historylegends awesome! Aldo I enjoyed your last reaction. I really enjoy non holwoodized films. April 9th was recommend to me and I really enjoyed it.
These guys would have fought on the Eastern Front. They would have made short work of one Sherman.
Fury show how American propaganda wants you to see the war. (Sorry for the English )
Panzerfaust's would have made short work of Fury. At this point of the war, the soldiers, even the SS, would have been pretty rag tag and not so squared with their uniforms.
Perhaps not one thing the Germans excelled at is ad hock units, Germans returning from leave from a dozen differant units, rested, refitted and fresh could be thrown together in a Kamph Gruppe and perform as a veteran unit
Enjoy your vids, you are a very knowledgeable guy. Can’t believe not one German could flank the tank or even get behind it to take it out with a panzerfaust, very far fetched. That’s Hollywood I guess.
This battle made me so mad... If somehow a battalion marched into this tank ambush, they would have fired and killed a few. Then been flanked and wiped out by panzerfausts a few minutes later.
well, it's not that stupid to use a MG to shoot a tank. 6:40
Let me explain myself: The soldiers often used to do that in way to worse the tank crew's efficiency. If you're the hull gunner and you're reciving mg fire and bullet tracers sparks on your visual, it would be harder to take down the enemy infantry.
Good video btw!
LIL "STAR WARS" EDIT!: And you may know it but: The coloured bullets, those are tracer bullets, made to see where are you shooting at. Very common in tanks and MG's
when he says star wars is because they are all firing to nothing in the background lol, just a lot of bullets flying all around
@@danko8983 that is absolutely not why
If this was real it would a short film
The reason why they did not fire is that they don't have much shells or ammo and the radio is destroyed
The ammo is from star wars vuz the colors
most Hollywood WW2 movies are absolut BS
I'm genuinely worried about his blood pressure going up while watching this
If this was real, 10 tanks would have conquered half of Germany in 1943
im losing multiple braincells for every second of that scene
5:01 Why didn’t they just lock the hatch to prevent the German soldier from opening it like that? They put locks on the hatches to prevent that from happening.
plot
Imagine there were 2 Fury tanks? The war would have ended 2 years earlier.
The reason there was no call for support if you rewind a bit is their comms we’re knocked out
I am not sure if anyone has said it but the real story that this scene is based on is even more unbelievable. Yes this scene is makes it unbelievable because of the proximity but read the story of Audie Murphy. He actually sent his men to the woods, he by himself held the germans off. From an on fire tank he stood on top of it firing the .50 caliber machine gun while also directing artillery fire from his radio. He inflicted about 50 German casualties. Audie Murphy's stories of heroism from the war are so amazing that I am sure most people wouldn't believe it if they made a movie from it. They did actually from this even called "To HEll and BAck" in the 50s. His memoirs and book go by the same name.
the audie murphy story is bs. he killed no more than half a dozen german troops. they played it up for propaganda purposes...
I think the whole story about this fight is not very sense filled, I can't imagine there's any intact SS Battalion in April 1945 with battle hardened Veterans and such good equipment as these guys are. The troops, or should I say children shown in the first parts of the movie are more realistic. I spoke with many German child soldier veterans from Volkssturm or HJ and they told much about the bad equipment, like french rifles with Italian ammo etc and many of them weren't older than 12 or 13. And they weren't many, I never heard about units larger than a company in platoon size, except in those famous pockets like Berlin or Breslau but in general that's what it must have been.
Also the Waffen SS saw a large number of redundant Luftwaffe and Kreigsmarine personnel pressganged into service. A unit of this caliber may have existed in the East but mainly from foriegn volunteers with nothing to lose.
this movie is pure garbage... like you said they had the budget.. makes me sad
Why were the clay pigeons wearing SS camouflage?