Is Indian Motorcycle Dying?
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- Is Indian Motorcycle dying?! We did some investigative journalism at Indian Riders Fest to see!
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Anybody who is a Harley fan should want a company like Indian to succeed. Having a competitor like Indian makes Harley stay competitive in their pricing.
100%
Competition breeds inovation, more competition please =D
@KorpenXIX The only thing people seem to want is more power even though we now they have sport bike motors around 1000cc that are pushing 200+hp 100+ftlbs of torque. While a 114, 1868ccs are rated at 100hp 119ftlbs.
@@Bigjohn2121 Sadly true in some cases, and I have owned those bikes, even own a 1000cc sport bike right now sitting around 180hp, I ride that one less then I do my 800cc 90hp bike though, just more comfy power for the road.
Did also have an 1800cc Harley not too long ago, just stupid size of an engine in my mind, but was also real comfy for long distance travel.
Wow so true! I will never talk shit about Indians and other competitors again!
Ran across some Victory owners a few days ago. They are still upset with Polaris and won't ever buy another product from them. They are a loyal bunch. Their bikes had over 100,000 miles on them.
Why are they upset with Polaris?
And still can't get no parts
@@absynthe9820, Polaris killed the Victory brand
It's not really Polaris's fault. Victory wasn't profitable for several years before they killed the brand.
As an Indian and H-D owner, I love both of them. I ride my Indian more than my H-D. If I had a bed in my garage, I’d sleep with my Indian.
I'm also a HD and indian owner, and for me it's vica versa. I prefer my HD over the Indian
Same. My Challenger is hands-down the best bike I've ever owned. I have to force myself to ride my Fatboy so it doesn't just rot in the garage.
@@ButterflyDragon9 damm let me have that fatboy then, I'd ride the heck out of it
Harley has but the ball back on Indian to come up with something good this next reveal. Gap has closed significantly. But Indian is far from dead. I say this being a Harley guy.
Justin, that was awesome.
Blockhead, it is absolutely crazy how, a few years ago, there was a decision made to film an 883. Now you have been able to travel the world that probably would have never happened. Congratulations, sir.
Thanks for the videos.
It really is crazy to think! The opportunities and places motorcycles can take you 🤘
Just bought my first motorcycle last week and it was a Indian scout rogue. I hope indian doesn't die. I finally got my dream bike and loving every minute of it.
How lucky I was to share thus all with you two.
Long live Indian Motorcycles for bringing people together!
We're glad we go to meet and experience IRF with you, TomBoyAboot! Looking forward to London, tickets booked! 🤘
Would love a Sport Chief to add to my stable of Harleys
Just traded in two Harley’s for an Indian challenger.
I just traded in a 2013 ultra classic and a 2005 Wide Glide for a new Roadmaster. I couldn’t be happier. I’ve been riding motorcycles for over 40 years and most of that 40 years was on HARLEY-DAVIDSON. Their sales department at my local shop really let me down and I made the decision to give another manufacture the opportunity that Harley refused.
Isn't the Challenger amazing? I've owned many HDs and love basically everything on 2-wheels, but man the Challenger is something else. I just can't get enough of mine.
Motorcycle sales have been down ever since the recession in 2008. Numbers have never recovered ever since then regardless of manufacturer. With most of them increasing their prices I don't see more people buying bikes unfortunately
That’s in the US because bikes are seeing as a weekend hobby and not also a daily commuter like in other countries. Also it doesn’t help that in most of the country you cannot lane split and have to ride as if you’re in a car in the city which is really dumb and take away one of the biggest advantages of riding over driving in big congested cities.
@@marcoantoniogarcia38 I ride my Chief to work almost every day. I hate lane splitters. It's dangerous and it makes auto drivers hate motorcyclists even more. I've had to use that space a couple of times to get our from behind a couple of morons riding each other's quarter panels, but straight up lane splitting? Never.
@@kschantz That’s something very US American to say. Driver’s hate you, why? It’s not as if you’re skipping the line in front of them, they won’t arrive any earlier if you don’t pass them, on the contrary, if you take the space of a car and stand behind them you’re going to make the traffic even worse. In Europe, Asia, Latin America… no auto driver is going to hate you for lane splitting because most two wheels riders do that and there’s a lot more two wheels on the road then in the US, so it’s just something normal. Besides, there’s nothing worse than sitting in traffic on a motorcycle, in the rain it’s even worse. About the danger part, yes, it can be kinda dangerous, but riding is dangerous anyway, just be careful.
I am a big fan of both Harley Davidson and Indian, I believe having the two brands exist in competition with each other is ultimately great for the consumer as it pushes the quality of both brands bikes to a new level, just look at the latest models, tech that would rival European bikes and more performance than ever before. I hope they are both around for a long time to come.
I agree. 👍🏻
Well said!
@@robertmckendry8670 I totally concur!
If Indian was dying, I don't think they could afford PRAGUE of all places FFS! DAMN! GREAT video A&J!
💀 Ola’s response “that was the dumbest question ever”
Best response, had me dying 😂
When I pay off my current bike, I'm trading in for a scout 101 or a sport chief.
What is your current bike?
I ride 2022 Roadmaster Limited I just finished a little 6000 mile ride from Toronto to Colorado via Kansas Missouri Nebraska Iowa Indiana Illinois so on and so . Just changed my oil and now doing another 2000 miles to Nova Scotia most reliable bike I’ve ever had !
Came through my neck of the woods, in Missouri.
I love this video. I never realized so many people around the world loved Indian as much as I do. My husband is a Harley guy, but I’m all about the Indians and the culture around it. Rock on!!! 🤘🏽😝
Well the analytics show pretty clearly indian isn't dying, quite the opposite. Pretty expensive looking event for a "dying" company.....harley is the company losing market share
I’m definitely not saying it’s happening, but you can’t judge a company’s viability on the amount of money spent on an event like this. I worked for a rail car manufacturer back in the 80’s. They sent a bunch of efficiency experts down to our plant for a couple of weeks. About a month later the company invested several millions of dollars upgrading the computer systems and many things on the production system. About 2 months after this was done they started laying people off which always seemed to happen around the presidential election time for some reason and had happened that way for 50 years. But this time was different, they laid everyone off and completely shut down operations at the plant permanently, and eventually the plant was sold. I asked a union rep why a company would come in and spend millions of $$ on a plant and then just shut it down. He said that’s been done many times by many companies and they do it for a tax write off. So you can never really tell. I learned from that to always buy at least one share of stock in a company I had an interest in. By owning one share of stock you get info as a shareholder that gives you the real insight into a company’s health. If shareholders aren’t making money , look out. It’s all about them being kept happy.
Loved this. You and Amanda, Harley and Indian, MAKING EACH OTHER BETTER!! Much love...
Thanks J3!
The Czech Republic! Home to CZ firearms and Acta Non Verba knives-both excellent.👍👍
Also Pilsner Urquell
@@Xlac Forgot about that!
Harley is woke as Hell. I’ll keep my Scout and my pride! 1901
I was hoping you’d wear at least one Indian shirt
Wore one the day after we got back! Got an IRF shirt 😁
Don't particularly care about this topic, but I still watched. So glad I did! This is a gorgeous video, from the landscapes, architecture, views, niche motorcycles, and sweet editing. This is cable TV caliber, I mean that as a compliment. Great video, glad you did this topic, too. Strong work!!!!
Thanks so much, we really appreciate the feedback! Glad you enjoyed it, thank you! 👊
Thanks for the video (from an Indian owner). I’d kill for that opportunity man. That’s awesome. Glad someone mainstream is making some Indian.
Dam it Squarehead your a luck fella Amanda seems as nice as she is pretty and a real rider to boot. She's getting better and more relaxed in the vlogs too, be replacing you soon. lol. Nice to see an event that wasn't Harley Harley Harley. You should do an Indian as a give away bike. Cool to see Deimante AKA Tomboy a Bit as well. On a different note do you have any plans to check out Saddlemans new Mini Fairing?
Lucky fella indeed! We did an Indian Scout "proper" Bobber build awhile back and gave it away. We should def have a new one soon! Haven't seen their new mini fairing, I'll have to check it out!
@@BlockheadMoto forgot about that one, will have to re watch it. Definately check out Saddlemans new fairing. Its made for Sportster as well as Dynas. It not made for the New NIghster Sportster but I reckon you could make it fit, would be a unique build, No ones done the Nighster yet though I believe Kruesi is just starting one. Thanks for your reply as well, been watching since the begining, keep up the good work
Indian will never die
😂 I'm sure those words have been spoken before
AINT NOTHNIG BETTRE THAN A HARLEY BORTHER, YOU AINT CRANKIN YER HAWG IF YER NOT ON A HARLEY BORTHER GOBBLESS
I have a 2018 Scout Bobber that I put a BBK big bore kit with Andrews 450 Cams and TBR exhaust. I also have a 2020 Challenger that's completely stock that I use for long distance road trips. I rebuilt a wrecked Chief with all Sport Chief parts.
It baffles me that there are not more people riding Indian Motorcycles, honestly. Indians are more comfortable than Harleys IMO.
I'm seeing them more and more every time I ride. And I'm in Canada.
Whoa you have the bbk with andrews cams?!?! Isnt that close to 140whp/120tq? How does it perform?
Has anyone ever seen any Indian Motorcycle company ads? They are the invisible Ameican company that makes some stunning products that NOBODY knows about. Appalling marketing.
They should make a sub 8000 dollar cruiser... huge hole in the market
They do! A used Scout. Hahaha
There are plenty of used bikes under that dollar amount.
Not with the inflation we have.
Facebook marketplace def got the best deals on used bikes 👍
I haven't enjoyed one of your videos this much in a minute! I enjoy them all, but this one.... Justin Burgundy was hilarious! Everyone gets a big ATTA BOY and ATTA GIRL!! Keep 'em coming!
Justin Burgundy did an amazing job, 10/10! 😂
With a history that dates back as far as Indian motorcycles and It being an American company I really want to see indian do well. Their dark horse bagger is a pretty good looking bike. Looks mean. The after market is almost non existent.
As an Indian owner...Long Live The Tribe! ✌🏼
🍻🤘🏻
After owning both, I like my 2020 Indian Chief Dark Horse better. 4 years only 18000 miles but runs perfectly.
18000 in 4 years?! That’s it?! 😂
This was pretty darn funny. A nice tongue and cheek about how ridiculous the thought is of them 'dying' haha. I was at an all female event with my wife recently, and there was at least 75% Indian bikes. Wish there were more female riders (who don't get hassled by insecure men) on the road. Glad I get to share the happiness of motorcycling with my wife.
The ladies seem to be much more serious about riding and their motorcycles. Just saying.
7:40 That's the biggest gathering of Indians I've seen in years.
Polaris-Fest
I love my scout bobber, coming from an Iron 883.
How did the helmet do in the cold. I start And end my season in 49°. During the summer it gets in the 100°. Been following you since the iron days and know the helmet has been your fav. I will be buying one this year and was thinking about Ruroc.
With vents closed, it did really well! Few times where it felt a little cold but I'd just breathe a bunch of hot air to warm it up, haha. Perk of the pinlock visor insert, no fogging!
Justin, uh, I mean Justin Burgandy man you look about 10 years old..haha Great documentary, brother.
Prague really is beautiful.
And, I don't think Indian has anything to worry about...😉
Who'd have thought putting a wig on Justin would make him look younger 😂
doesnt seem that indian is dying
This video makes it seem like most of your time was spend eating, drinking and sleeping LOL I am glad you got to enjoy it. It all looks so good.
In the Open market, everyone should want companies with competitive products to stay relevant … because it helps with competitive pricing … if Indian goes away.. then Harley can start pricing creeping because there is no competition to compare prices too and keep them in check. Take that for what you will.
PLUS, quality will drop
Oh I forgot to add. We NEED to change the channel name to SQUAREHEAD LOL⬛◼🔳◾▪🤕🤕🤕🤕 😅🤣😂😂🤣 I laughed out loud so hard on that one. probably harder than I should have lol
Well well... I'm subscribed to Tomboy_A_Bit too and just saw her vid on this get-together . Both vids are great and I really like the way those Czechs throw a party!
Such awesome bikes. Beautiful countryside. Love my Indian!
PRAGUE Is legit. DAMN.
Freakin' beautiful!
Theyre all dying as the world turns toward electrification and smaller engines…
Wish more people could appreciate and enjoy both. I think both make cool bikes, but we get so wrapped in rivalries and wanting to have a thing that’s “ours” so we can say our thing is better than others thing.
You came here & i didn't know it to meet you.
What was the name of the city, village you were ?
We arrived in Prague and went to České Budějovice. Hoping to make it back for next years IRF! 👍
They don't make anything that appeals to me.
Oh yeah, I forgot to call you SquareHead!
Justin.. dude... you're a comedic gem man. STAY YOU! Blessings!
wait ... heatwave and you're not DIWD ... mind blown :D
loved my FTR but indeed not for long range.
loved communicating with Amanda about the tune and the post on facebook ...
Indian will always be better than HD in my book and i will own one again one day too !!
I used to use his code all the time in videos, and then Heatwave got wind of that and gave me my own 😂
Happy owner of a Scout Bobber. Parts are limited, and that's why I make my own.
I love my Sport Chief! I am currently talking to 210 SpeedLab to get scheduled for a 131 BBK and 605 Cams. Can’t wait!
That's awesome, tell the Joshes we said hello, haha
Looks like a lot of fun. Safe travels!
Guys with indians compare to harley. Guys with Harleys ride harleys
The way that lady denied that hug was hilarious🤣🤣
To be frank, if it does die again, the trademark will just be bought by another manufacturer or venture capital group just like the last few times they went out of business.
The brand name has value based on the original history. Polaris bikes are just that with a private label.
The gregory 500 in Arkansas had over 600 indians for the world record a few years back
I adore my Chief DH… my only wish is that there were as many aftermarket parts for Indian than there are for HD.
exactly my reason for ending up on a Harley. SO many options vs not enough options
Aftermarket support and lack of dealer network is why I went with HD. Those things getting sorted could be a great benefit to that brand
@@JFROMM454 100% agree! I am all for competition
@@JFROMM454 completely agree. It’s their best option to be a serious competitor to HD
Man I saw you at the IRF and wasn’t quite sure it was you or just someone looking exactly like you, so I didn’t come for a chat… so sad. See you next year!
Lol we had a lot of people come up and say "are you from America" as the first question, and then after we'd say yes, they'd be like "Blockhead?" Apparently people didn't expect us to travel so far for the event, but it was so worth it, we had an incredible time! Def say hello next time around! 😁
@@BlockheadMoto That’s it! I got used to seeing you touring the US. So I could never expect you in the middle of the EU! will definitely be saying hello next time ✌🏻
Just my opinion but I think Indian tries to copy the bikes that Harley makes in style. Only a couple that I would consider buying but I can’t afford more than one at a time. I agree that it’s good to have competition to keep things evolving but prices don’t seem to stop.
@tomboy_a_Bit needs to visit Block in Orlando.
On my bucket list!
@@tomboyabit Ace Cafe Sanford grand opening would be appropriate.
You can save the hassle of going over seas and just go to the Indian Bike Week in New Richmond, Wisconsin USA!
Going over seas wasn't a hassle at all, it was amazing to experience the Czech Republic! We'll definitely be sure to check out Indian Bike Week as well!
@11:37 “Nothing like this in the United States” Block you should come check out Hearst Castle in San Simeon Ca.
We need something like this in America. The only one I know of is Indian Bike Week. They tend to invite Sons of Anarchy/Mayan actors, and models. That’s a little lame to me. We need something with industry leaders. It needs to be an event similar to H-D’s homecoming event. And yes, I knew the title was laughable clickbait when I started watching.
"It's a superior bike in my opinion " Carey Hart
Why is an American founded motorcycle company having a huge gathering like this outside of the United States.....I do ride harley but I'm saying
Had the same question! Apparently a large amount of Indian Motorcycle riders formed around this part of Europe b/c law enforcement in the area nearly a century ago decided to use Indian as part of their fleet bikes. Since law enforcement used it, the public started buying Indian Motorcycles as well, and the community just kind of started growing from there!
Probably in order to showcase their product and not die. For the sake of expanding the market on another continent. Japanese do it for decades, hence why they are so successful.
There's a whole world outside US 😊
Seemed like a wonderful trip . If I could I would add a week or two to motor around Europe. That’s a dream..
For Amanda if her health issues were digestive related I humbly suggest getting a bottle of Just Thrive probiotic.
It does not require refrigeration. Might seem a little pricey but it works .
Give it a try !
Not sponsored I just use it !
Also I really appreciate that as a mostly Harley channel you include other brands . I like many brands of motorcycles and Harley Davidson and Indian are two of my favorite brands.
Geraldo, you're looking so much younger theses days.. 😄 (-tomboy is a spy)
I'm still riding my collection of 70s and 80s harleys, had a 46 Chief I built from swap meet parts in the mid 80s with all original parts, sold it for way more then I had into it to a collector.
Part of the problem is you need to be in a stand alone building
Don't need to shuffle thru water craft and side by side
So i can get a bike out
hell yeah brother
came home from the bar,hanged out a bit,drank a few cuz i wasn't with the bike,is at the shop so i took the opportunity this time
Just got home,30 mins past midninght,enjoying a shaorma i got on the way home on one of those electric scooters
Look at that… they have Galaga, PAC Man and Mario Cart! 18:49
😂 real life Mario Kart, haha
I've been watching since before the first giveaway with the grom and also had the opportunity to meet yall at the "face reveal" open house event. It's unreal to see how far things have come and continue to grow....yall guys keep grinding and we'll keep supporting!
Justin Burgundy character is great as a commentator, lol.
I guess the 2025 Scouts haven't made it there yet .
Biggest gathering of Indian motorcycles in Europe since WWII!!
I love the new Indian 101 .. shit .. it's a beautiful bike. I one a street bob 2021.. And I love .. I want to try a Indian soon.. just blockhead and tomboyabit.. nice
Everywhere looks clean...no trash.
That's one of the things I noticed as well, everywhere was very clean!
The issue is Indian and Harley are only competing with each other. They have the same lineup, at similar price points, with no entry level motorcycles. The only difference is obviously the PanAm.
So if Indian is dying, then so is Harley.
I like and buy HDs…but it’s damn close. America needs both and they need each other for competitive advantage-builds of these two set the American market and represent the USA motorcycle genre to the world. Simple we need both
👌 beautiful 😍
They both need transparency in pricing.HD has a bad reputation for hosing people with bs up charges added to the sale.If Indian doesn't resort to those tactics,they will eclipse HD in sales.If greed takes over,they may very well die.
It was really cool to see you in places where I have been. Greetings from Slovakia! (Got to love Cesky Krumlov)
I’m gonna need a honest review of the ruroc 4.0. I see them in every video and they’ve come a long ways from the first release
Yeah they’re grabbing a bigger share of the market - in Europe. Not so in North America! 🤷🏼♂️
They've done great in just 10 years. The share will grow. Anyway nobody can outsell Harleys.
My take-away from this was "Oh shit. Amanda's bike is sick as fuck". I hadn't seen it before.
All manufacturers need cheaper bikes to attract younger riders and entice long time riders to buy something new. The current prices have more riders throwing in the towel on riding than luring new riders into buying bikes. There are less and less motorcyclists every year even though our population is steadily increasing.
i sadly think the whole industry is dying to be honest. new bikes coming out are near impossible to customise. aren't inspiring to do either. options are bleak. and models come and go faster than ever, and prices seem way to high.
My perfect bike would be a hd 48 (looks and sound) with the tech, power and quality of a new indian
You had me at Czech'ing out 😂❤🤘🏻
Had to 😂
Young people not interested in any kind of bikes any kind of older or even sports cars don't go to diners or restaurants don't hunt or fish worry about newer generation....
that looked like a great trip it looked beautiful there
Beautiful country, great weather, good food, and smooth roads!
It was good to see you two at the IMR fast, Indian Motorcycles are not dead🤗
Omg that’s funny the beginning of the video 😎🥃🥃🥃
It's tomboy_a_bit! Shes got awesome bike build content.
My wife has a cousin that is the watchman in a castle over in Minnesota so we do have stuff like that in the US
The only people saying Indian is on the way out are the woke ones that will want to change the name to "Guardian" like in Cleveland!
I love the scout.
The places motorcycles can take you. 👍🏽. Awesome video!
Crazy! Thanks Preston! 👊