The existence of bot lobbies glitches create a better distribution of players in each game than the actual matchmaking that Respawn is using at the moment
You think bot lobby glitches are cool? Check out Hong Kong matchmaking where your trios game turns into a lobby of just duos, or even better, a full solo lobby! And if you’re super lucky like what happened to me in my first ranked match this season, you get placed in a trio, but when the game starts, there’s only 9 other players!… and they’re all SOLOS!!! I scanned the survey beacon and just see 9 little red arrows scattered across the map. So my trio just speedran the game - they were also all bots
Well, to have seen Merchant stream solo vs trios on multiple occasion, it is pretty clear how the matchmaking system works. I’ve watched Merchant get destroyed on drop for more than a hour straight on multiple occasions. Literally drop from ship, dead, lobby rinse repeat, to the point I question if he is sane. If you do so poorly for so long, eventually the game gives you an easier matchup to make you feel better. Even the worse players of the game gets a win from time to time. It keeps them engaged. If you do too great, then they throw you into a pro lobby with two trash teammates. Happens to me all the time. I lose several games painfully, then I get an easy one again.
Precisely. This is the EOMM (engagement optimised matchmaking) that they use in place of SBMM (skill based matchmaking). Respawn claims they use SBMM and not EOMM, but if that were the case then people wouldn't be matched up against preds way above their skill level AT ALL, LET ALONE then drop down to bot lobbies because the game wants to keep you interested on the off chance you spend money on something. It's predatory and manipulative and has made me stop playing Apex. They introduced it at the end of season 2. Anyone around from launch will remember all of the reddit posts and angry tweets about the ruined matchmaking, people saying "why am I being matched with preds?" Now that's the standard.
@@eyescrossedFTW Yep. When you look into it from the view of a publisher who manage and online store within the game, keeping players interest becomes key. They keep saying they understand our concerns on the system and that they are actively changing it, but it's all corporate talks. They already know since a long time how to do a proper SBMM, they just won't do it.
@@LtKregorov that's why I've stopped playing Apex and Overwatch 2. They're both skinner boxes with mechanics specifically engineered to make you addicted and more likely to spend money. Gone are the days of mainstream FPS games with actual SBMM. CoD even has EOMM now too.
Merchand definitely had that weird « oh no, I died again off drop 😊 » vibe, I’ve seen multiple streams where it seems like he just doesn’t care and almost purposely takes a gunfight that he knows he will lose, and at some point he locks in bc he knows he died enough to have bot lobby
@@Uvikeh Yep. He is not bad at the game by all means and his youtube content is good. But whenever he streams, it is pretty depressing. He is definitely not strong enough to solo Q and be entertaining to watch. People don't realize that the solo Q game we see on youtube are literally that 1 good game in 100. Just watch him stream and you will see.
The matchmaking for this season has been better for me than previous seasons. I like to play early in the morning and that's when I usually do my best, when the server population is low and the lobbies are really random and also filled with about 5 actual bots per match. This is pretty common knowledge if you played more than a few hundred hours in Apex. It's pretty easy to recognize that on the weekend the servers are full of everybody and no reg hits. But Monday morning at 3 am, it's a weird mix of high level players and absolute newbs. The server I play on is pretty low on population I think, because sometimes I will get these "bot" lobbies at 4 pm and then other times it's late night/early morning. Also, theoretically, if you are playing solo, you should be matched to a lower lobby. EDIT: if you want to find the real bots, some will join groups, but a large amount of them just fall solo from the end of the drop ship ~ sometimes you can find like 5 of them dancing around using their "q"
This has happened to me. Where me and my squad dont find any teams or players until the last circle. One time we were running around the map and we didnt fight until the last circle there were 4 teams left besides us.
I can’t confirm this, but I feel the matchmaking in the Mixtape modes carry on into your Trios matches. I find the lobbies incredibly easier after winning a few TDM/Control/GR matches. Try for yourself lol
People have to understand that pro players like itztimmy will only ever post games where they win and/or high damage/kills and not the dozens of other matches they played hours prior where they die right off the bat or didn't win. I actually respect @thegamingmerhchant b/c he never shied away from showing his deaths/blunders whether it's good for viewership or not and it one of the reason why I started watching in the first player, when I watch your videos/streams I feel like I see how matches go realistically, keep up the awesome work!
It always bothered me how some devs, even now say that they are against SBMM, even though nobody wants to genuinely play a game where they constantly get stomped by predators who get off on killing new players who are just trying to have fun in their free time
The issue with your very, very stupid statement is that, you know, predators make up like .3% of the population. You would generally be fighting other golds and diamonds and masters, which means only the worst players would be having a bad time.... Which they do in sbmm anyways since low level lobbies are mostly just stepping stools for smurfs and rising diamonds, masters, and preds
@@TheLongDon nice to see such a defeatist give such a self defeating response "it doesn't work so it's bad" "i have a karl marx profile picture and support horribly unequal lobbies" there's so much poetry in you
No. Because I don’t have a 20 and I’m significantly better than my friend who did drop a 20. You can drop a 20 and be bad, you just gotta be lucky. She’s got a below 1 kd so her lobbies when she doesn’t queue with me are a joke, and she stole a ton of kills. Ending up with 20 slims for 2060 something damage last season. My best games include examples such as a, 3600 for 16, 3800 for 15, 3800 for 18 and a 4560 game for 10. My Kd is like 2.81 this season and hers is not even a third of that. There is no reason for her to play in “sweat lobbies” when she’s precisely the person who’d get rolled in sweat lobbies. My point being is I willingly play with her, but she’s not great. I would not want to be the random actual sweat who gets her on my team in a random match and have to carry her against three stack sweats. It wouldn’t make sense.
I would actually personally like to see some of the crappier games put in the videos as well. That way i dont feel *as* bad as I’m getting steam rolled by sweats every. single. game.
I keep getting into the same matches as a Mirage with 102k kills and a Seer at about 105k kills. Most of my games i die to oneof them. They dont play together but i always die to one 9f them
Something i think some people need to realize is that maybe they just are good enough to be in the crazy hard lobbies even if u dont have the crazy badges try looking at the badges on the deathboxes of people you kill you might be surprised with how good some of them are
Apparently I'm top1% master because that and preds are all I play against. (And no I don't mean this season where you can sit in a corner and hit pred)
@@emerealm3779 well what I meant is just check the death boxes of the people u kill they might not be bad players you just dying to better people in the lobby and maybe u r top1 masters and just haven't hit the rank yet or had a team to play with
@tnytu3sday924 I have an overall .66 kd because I get games like this on a consistent basis. Literally just unfair matches constantly. My kd has been slowly improving but it's hard to do when 1/20 of my games go well
Just make it so anyone who has hit diamond or higher in the last 3 seasons are paired with each other in lobbies until they are demoted to gold or lower. If there aren't enough in a server pool them together, they already do that anyway. Easy fix, sorts out them whining about waiting for a long time for match, sorts out high rank players in low rank lobbies and skill disparity, sorts out problem with people saying oh I used to be diamond season 1 but now i'm more like silver player.
I play on the Frankfurt server almost 14 hours a day and my lobbys are always pred/master and I'm not really good my highest rank was gold2 I have real struggle in those kind of lobbys
i can relate to that 100%. Especially when it's night time the Frankfurt servers goes algs pubs. Unfortunately so many NA players are abusing some of the eu servers to get easier lobbies. I think that if we couldn't change servers the matchmaking would be more balanced honestly.
I play in the Dallas server and most of the time i play during the day but I will be playing solo and still have to face 3 stacks of preds or players that all have damage badges and even tho I play on Xbox one I get put in lobbies with PC players(this happens more in non br modes) but Im still having to play in lobbies where I dont feel like I have an equal chance of winning the game compared to other players and teams in the lobby.
It doesn't work like that, you will only be matched against Xbox or PS players. Only way to fight PC players is if you queue up with one in your party.
I wish there was a option to switch to 3rd person view while watching replays or old videos. I feel like I could work on my strafing if I could just see myself from a different view angle.
The problem isn't easy or harder lobbies, the problem is I play against good players while having level 40s on my team that just run in and get annihilated EVERY game...
i always play against really sweaty players XD when im chilling with friends or alone (which most likely is with friends) but even then, if we are playing well, we easily kill a lot, but also die fast sometimes, but playing alone is a different story, my teammates are usually bad/not so good/not good at that moment and die fast without doing almost nothing even if i knock or let one shot some of the enemy team. My lobbies are normally from 19 or 20 to 22 EU from spain, google says its UTC +1 but my pc tells me that it should be UTC +2 in case you want to know real time
For someone who's not a god at the game but is just above the average player is so too painful to play solo this season. Nobody is playing ranked(No Wonders) and pubs are so sweaty that I'm mainly playing mixtape this season after getting to master in a week by playing normally. Now even mixtape is super hard( pc player in console lobbies included) with tons of bots everywhere and bored masters and preds 3stacking in control like it's algs. This game want me to quit and matchmaking is always the reason I take long brake from apex. So sad that the most beautiful fps has the worst mm and rank system at the same time after 17seasons running.
I’m trying to break a 2k but guess what I’m going against pred bob & master friends who are calling out “bro watch out!” Like how the heck & am I supposed to compete with that!
I haven't been receiving RP equivalent to my games and kills. A win with 8 kills in ranked only gives me 250 RP whilst my friends are receiving over 600. I dropped into a solo ranked match (I'm in gold 2) and quickly realised that I was playing with masters players. We came 3rd in our match and tried to play again, but saw that they were in masters and I was in good. It's a nice laugh, but what is even this game at this point.
at 7:44 you said the correct thing its not them that are bad its you that are to good... they are probably callling you a cheater and a sweat good thing you cant get banned !
Matchmaking is indeed needed in pubs, to a degree. But I think strict matchmaking in pubs isn’t actually a good idea. Ranked should do a better job at matching players of equal skill together- pubs should offer variety. And YES, Masters and Preds can find themselves in “specifically low SBMM lobbies” (bot lobbies). But those high MMR lobbies absolutely exist (where like 95% of players are 4k 20bomb High Diamond to Pred). These lobbies exist! So that means that at any given time, the sweats are indeed being lumped together.
Ranked is arguably worse now than pubs with accuracy. I got diamond players queuing into my bronze team and now that I’m D4 I’m getting like one gold and one bronze player now. The fact that SBMM exists in a rank system where the only discerning factor should be rank is so bad. Pubs is honestly more accurate because it’s ONLY based on your match history. If you’re doing bad you’ll slowly get an easier lobby. If you’re doing good you’ll keep getting into harder lobbies until you die off rip over and over. Rinse and repeat.
That is true. Here in Brasil there's almost no players online for a game in the morning. And at night is insane lol. So to find games faster I'm playing on US servers with 150 ping. At least I play. :)
everytime they updated the ranked, it's us casuals that suffers the most, as a group of 3 with 0.75 kd average, meeting 3 stacks of masters and preds in pubs didn't really fulfilled our need of having fun after 10 hours of work, it's stressing if anything.
i’m not even joking, yesterday in a ranked game we found a 3 stack pred and the horizon on that team had 17 kills that game. he was prestige 3 level 89 with like 13000 kills
im glad you addressed this because ur YT videos are much different from ur streams as a content creator you have to cherry pick and pick ur best video's and that can lead people to believe you are consistently getting easy lobbies when ur streams reflect the opposite
Everyone expects games like this, but in reality the ones content creators show are usually after many many hours of dropping, dying and returning to lobby that just aren't shown on these social media platforms.
Barely keep a positive k/d, usually gold4/plat1 when I play ranked. I’ve spent all night playing solos, actively trying to tank my k/d. I have 8 kills and 43 deaths this season, still seeing nothing but masters and pred. Their matchmaking is horrendous. Legit the worst I’ve ever seen in any game by far
happens to me on xbox where ive played for 30 days and only have 2k elims total - and im in pred lobbies every single game and the weirdest fact is is that ive only ever made it to plat in rannked too so idk how im in those lobbies if ive never gotten close enough to be a master or pred anyways
I get killed by a 4k20 octane w no hitbox or aimbotting horizon 3 stacking literally every game as a solo queuer. Matchmaking is COMPLETELY and TOTALLY BROKEN.
I have like 3 hours of gameplay this season, i get home from work, want to play some nice relax games and i just get sweaty masters and preds every game -_-, the highest i ever got was diamond like 5 seasons ago
I’m a season 12 D4 peak and I get thrown in games with top 20 preds. Yes I do pretty well in my games getting around 5-10 kills each match but I’m not top 20 Apex Predator good
I wouldn’t worry about all the cry babies in the comments about your bot lobbies or whatever. You’ve constantly posted your lifetime stats and they are no where near your typical “apex TH-camr” who boasts their lifeline stats showing how much they actually leave as soon as they get knocked like every other cliche wraith teammate. You are absolutely most of the most genuine and most relatable apex player there is.
Something is wrong with mines, im rarely home playing im a trucks driver play twice a months hightest kill is 8 around 2600dmg. Getting ppl in predator, 20kills badge or have more kills with a new legend than my lifetime playing apex(I've been playing apex since day1). I've had ppl that i shoot at break their shields and they run towards me instead of hide & heal. And yeah they kill me 😖
these stacked lobbies have made all of my friends stop playing. it's just not fun to get whipped every game by 15000kill players when you play 4 hours a week.
Hey gm I've been playing apex for a year I'm a Nintendo switch player and i think I have improved I've gotten 2ks 2.5k and a 3k never 4k or a 20 bomb my highest kill record is a nice 14 but do you think me a Nintendo switch player will get a 20 or is it just not possible.
Man I wish I had these pc lobbies man😔😔ps5 man it’s just full of sweats and I never ever got a bot lobby just three stacking masters and pred one clipping everytime sadnesss
I teamed up with a player that has never played before we played 2 games I got 21 kills best game ever soon realized during the second match that everyone was being a bot is it bc they where level 1 and party leader?
I only get way too good lobbys, I do like 1 - 2 kills sometimes and then directly get stomped. Every fcking time. So I really think I want to end the Game because I dont have any fun to get killed all the damn time. I only get preds/masters the whole time. I play on a normal densed Server...Its really frustrating. I like the game but cant play it like this
It seems like respawn "rewards" you for doing bad🤣 they need a massive sbmm overhaul, or a mode strictly for casual playing. Of course those sweats will infect the casual game mode if that was to happen.
Wouldnt be so hard if i didnt get literal 9 year olds as teamates had an octane yesterday who was CLEARLY under the age of like 12 bro could barely form a proper sentence, dished out like 20 damage kept getting knocked. Hate me or not but i truly hate playing video games with kids
People don’t know they’re in a bot lobby, because they leave the second they get downed. So obviously they’ll be in the comments complaining. The trick I’ve learned is after they get knocked unmute your mic and say “let’s see how long it’ll take for them to leave ladies and gentlemen…” then they don’t, works every time🤣
If you can’t get it on your own do you really deserve it though? I don’t even care about that badge mainly just from lobbies like this so kills the prestige of it 😅
The existence of bot lobbies glitches create a better distribution of players in each game than the actual matchmaking that Respawn is using at the moment
You think bot lobby glitches are cool? Check out Hong Kong matchmaking where your trios game turns into a lobby of just duos, or even better, a full solo lobby! And if you’re super lucky like what happened to me in my first ranked match this season, you get placed in a trio, but when the game starts, there’s only 9 other players!… and they’re all SOLOS!!! I scanned the survey beacon and just see 9 little red arrows scattered across the map. So my trio just speedran the game - they were also all bots
i casually play with my friends yet I get thrown into predator/master games
Well, to have seen Merchant stream solo vs trios on multiple occasion, it is pretty clear how the matchmaking system works. I’ve watched Merchant get destroyed on drop for more than a hour straight on multiple occasions. Literally drop from ship, dead, lobby rinse repeat, to the point I question if he is sane. If you do so poorly for so long, eventually the game gives you an easier matchup to make you feel better. Even the worse players of the game gets a win from time to time. It keeps them engaged. If you do too great, then they throw you into a pro lobby with two trash teammates. Happens to me all the time. I lose several games painfully, then I get an easy one again.
Precisely. This is the EOMM (engagement optimised matchmaking) that they use in place of SBMM (skill based matchmaking).
Respawn claims they use SBMM and not EOMM, but if that were the case then people wouldn't be matched up against preds way above their skill level AT ALL, LET ALONE then drop down to bot lobbies because the game wants to keep you interested on the off chance you spend money on something.
It's predatory and manipulative and has made me stop playing Apex. They introduced it at the end of season 2. Anyone around from launch will remember all of the reddit posts and angry tweets about the ruined matchmaking, people saying "why am I being matched with preds?"
Now that's the standard.
@@eyescrossedFTW Yep. When you look into it from the view of a publisher who manage and online store within the game, keeping players interest becomes key. They keep saying they understand our concerns on the system and that they are actively changing it, but it's all corporate talks. They already know since a long time how to do a proper SBMM, they just won't do it.
@@LtKregorov that's why I've stopped playing Apex and Overwatch 2. They're both skinner boxes with mechanics specifically engineered to make you addicted and more likely to spend money. Gone are the days of mainstream FPS games with actual SBMM. CoD even has EOMM now too.
Merchand definitely had that weird « oh no, I died again off drop 😊 » vibe, I’ve seen multiple streams where it seems like he just doesn’t care and almost purposely takes a gunfight that he knows he will lose, and at some point he locks in bc he knows he died enough to have bot lobby
@@Uvikeh Yep. He is not bad at the game by all means and his youtube content is good. But whenever he streams, it is pretty depressing. He is definitely not strong enough to solo Q and be entertaining to watch. People don't realize that the solo Q game we see on youtube are literally that 1 good game in 100. Just watch him stream and you will see.
Merch later in the vid: This isn’t your average normal day noob lobby. This is… ADVANCED noob lobby
what?
huh, finally a word that describes me as a apex player :D advanced noob.
The matchmaking for this season has been better for me than previous seasons.
I like to play early in the morning and that's when I usually do my best, when the server population is low and the lobbies are really random and also filled with about 5 actual bots per match. This is pretty common knowledge if you played more than a few hundred hours in Apex.
It's pretty easy to recognize that on the weekend the servers are full of everybody and no reg hits. But Monday morning at 3 am, it's a weird mix of high level players and absolute newbs. The server I play on is pretty low on population I think, because sometimes I will get these "bot" lobbies at 4 pm and then other times it's late night/early morning. Also, theoretically, if you are playing solo, you should be matched to a lower lobby.
EDIT: if you want to find the real bots, some will join groups, but a large amount of them just fall solo from the end of the drop ship ~ sometimes you can find like 5 of them dancing around using their "q"
6:04 me to my sleep paralysis demons
Crazy
Deep
Wake Up!
This has happened to me. Where me and my squad dont find any teams or players until the last circle. One time we were running around the map and we didnt fight until the last circle there were 4 teams left besides us.
The matchmaking in this game makes me insane its so bad
Leave them simple
@@jasonadersonwedion9874no one ask for your opinion
I found that if you spend like a week without playing the game puts you into an easier lobby when you come back
Or if you keep dying with little to no kills
I can’t confirm this, but I feel the matchmaking in the Mixtape modes carry on into your Trios matches. I find the lobbies incredibly easier after winning a few TDM/Control/GR matches. Try for yourself lol
Didn’t play for 6 months and got dropped into sweat town my first 6 games 😂
@@fancyflowzyou should try losing them and see if they’re even easier.
People have to understand that pro players like itztimmy will only ever post games where they win and/or high damage/kills and not the dozens of other matches they played hours prior where they die right off the bat or didn't win. I actually respect @thegamingmerhchant b/c he never shied away from showing his deaths/blunders whether it's good for viewership or not and it one of the reason why I started watching in the first player, when I watch your videos/streams I feel like I see how matches go realistically, keep up the awesome work!
That would make sense if people like itzTimmy didn’t stream LIVE.. on Twitch.
@@MitchSosAFA he has a TH-cam you doofus
When even The Gaming Merchant is saying "I shouldn't be in this lobby", you know there's a problem
It always bothered me how some devs, even now say that they are against SBMM, even though nobody wants to genuinely play a game where they constantly get stomped by predators who get off on killing new players who are just trying to have fun in their free time
The issue with your very, very stupid statement is that, you know, predators make up like .3% of the population. You would generally be fighting other golds and diamonds and masters, which means only the worst players would be having a bad time.... Which they do in sbmm anyways since low level lobbies are mostly just stepping stools for smurfs and rising diamonds, masters, and preds
@@TheLongDon nice to see such a defeatist give such a self defeating response
"it doesn't work so it's bad"
"i have a karl marx profile picture and support horribly unequal lobbies" there's so much poetry in you
@@TheLongDonur cringe fr
@@quietisonline Prove me wrong soy man
@@unowno123 Ad hominins don't make you right. In fact, they prove the exact opposite.
I feel like if you dropped a 20 bomb then you should be playing against sweats regularly
No. Because I don’t have a 20 and I’m significantly better than my friend who did drop a 20. You can drop a 20 and be bad, you just gotta be lucky. She’s got a below 1 kd so her lobbies when she doesn’t queue with me are a joke, and she stole a ton of kills. Ending up with 20 slims for 2060 something damage last season.
My best games include examples such as a, 3600 for 16, 3800 for 15, 3800 for 18 and a 4560 game for 10.
My Kd is like 2.81 this season and hers is not even a third of that.
There is no reason for her to play in “sweat lobbies” when she’s precisely the person who’d get rolled in sweat lobbies.
My point being is I willingly play with her, but she’s not great. I would not want to be the random actual sweat who gets her on my team in a random match and have to carry her against three stack sweats. It wouldn’t make sense.
I would actually personally like to see some of the crappier games put in the videos as well. That way i dont feel *as* bad as I’m getting steam rolled by sweats every. single. game.
My normal apex play time puts me in eu streamer lobbies a lot. I see Stormen like 4 times a day.
I keep getting into the same matches as a Mirage with 102k kills and a Seer at about 105k kills.
Most of my games i die to oneof them.
They dont play together but i always die to one 9f them
Something i think some people need to realize is that maybe they just are good enough to be in the crazy hard lobbies even if u dont have the crazy badges try looking at the badges on the deathboxes of people you kill you might be surprised with how good some of them are
😊😊😊😊😊
There's a real silver lining
Apparently I'm top1% master because that and preds are all I play against. (And no I don't mean this season where you can sit in a corner and hit pred)
@@emerealm3779 well what I meant is just check the death boxes of the people u kill they might not be bad players you just dying to better people in the lobby and maybe u r top1 masters and just haven't hit the rank yet or had a team to play with
@tnytu3sday924 I have an overall .66 kd because I get games like this on a consistent basis. Literally just unfair matches constantly. My kd has been slowly improving but it's hard to do when 1/20 of my games go well
Just make it so anyone who has hit diamond or higher in the last 3 seasons are paired with each other in lobbies until they are demoted to gold or lower. If there aren't enough in a server pool them together, they already do that anyway. Easy fix, sorts out them whining about waiting for a long time for match, sorts out high rank players in low rank lobbies and skill disparity, sorts out problem with people saying oh I used to be diamond season 1 but now i'm more like silver player.
Sadly, I'd have died in that lobby 😂
But why do i never seem to get a break?😂
I play on the Frankfurt server almost 14 hours a day and my lobbys are always pred/master and I'm not really good my highest rank was gold2 I have real struggle in those kind of lobbys
If you play 14 hrs a day and you're gold 2 then maybe...not...play 14 hrs a day...?
Why not? I don't see your point.
i can relate to that 100%. Especially when it's night time the Frankfurt servers goes algs pubs. Unfortunately so many NA players are abusing some of the eu servers to get easier lobbies. I think that if we couldn't change servers the matchmaking would be more balanced honestly.
@@microwavedbanana4165 Are people not allowed to enjoy things?
You play 14 hours a day? How old are you?
I play in the Dallas server and most of the time i play during the day but I will be playing solo and still have to face 3 stacks of preds or players that all have damage badges and even tho I play on Xbox one I get put in lobbies with PC players(this happens more in non br modes) but Im still having to play in lobbies where I dont feel like I have an equal chance of winning the game compared to other players and teams in the lobby.
It doesn't work like that, you will only be matched against Xbox or PS players. Only way to fight PC players is if you queue up with one in your party.
@@lordtitan3651theres been a bug for awhile now that makes this not the case. It happens to me too
@@lordtitan3651 i played in pc lobbies without a pc friend and im on ps i wonder how that is.
@@lordtitan3651 happens a lot when I play gun run. I'm solo and finding myself in pc lobbies
@@lordtitan3651 not true, I solo queue into PC lobbies frequently. I'm on Switch..
That triple shield swap was cleeeeeeaaaaan!
I wish there was a option to switch to 3rd person view while watching replays or old videos. I feel like I could work on my strafing if I could just see myself from a different view angle.
The problem isn't easy or harder lobbies, the problem is I play against good players while having level 40s on my team that just run in and get annihilated EVERY game...
SBMM? NAHHHHH. Luck based matchmaking
Craziest bot lobby I have ever had. They all was running straight at me with out shooting.
i always play against really sweaty players XD when im chilling with friends or alone (which most likely is with friends) but even then, if we are playing well, we easily kill a lot, but also die fast sometimes, but playing alone is a different story, my teammates are usually bad/not so good/not good at that moment and die fast without doing almost nothing even if i knock or let one shot some of the enemy team. My lobbies are normally from 19 or 20 to 22 EU from spain, google says its UTC +1 but my pc tells me that it should be UTC +2 in case you want to know real time
I got killed by the rank 15, 157, 220 and 232 rank preds today. It ain't happening.
For someone who's not a god at the game but is just above the average player is so too painful to play solo this season. Nobody is playing ranked(No Wonders) and pubs are so sweaty that I'm mainly playing mixtape this season after getting to master in a week by playing normally. Now even mixtape is super hard( pc player in console lobbies included) with tons of bots everywhere and bored masters and preds 3stacking in control like it's algs. This game want me to quit and matchmaking is always the reason I take long brake from apex. So sad that the most beautiful fps has the worst mm and rank system at the same time after 17seasons running.
I’m trying to break a 2k but guess what I’m going against pred bob & master friends who are calling out “bro watch out!” Like how the heck & am I supposed to compete with that!
I haven't been receiving RP equivalent to my games and kills. A win with 8 kills in ranked only gives me 250 RP whilst my friends are receiving over 600. I dropped into a solo ranked match (I'm in gold 2) and quickly realised that I was playing with masters players. We came 3rd in our match and tried to play again, but saw that they were in masters and I was in good. It's a nice laugh, but what is even this game at this point.
tell me why im in master lobbies AS A ROOKIE?!?!?!
at 7:44 you said the correct thing its not them that are bad its you that are to good... they are probably callling you a cheater and a sweat good thing you cant get banned !
Matchmaking is indeed needed in pubs, to a degree. But I think strict matchmaking in pubs isn’t actually a good idea.
Ranked should do a better job at matching players of equal skill together- pubs should offer variety.
And YES, Masters and Preds can find themselves in “specifically low SBMM lobbies” (bot lobbies). But those high MMR lobbies absolutely exist (where like 95% of players are 4k 20bomb High Diamond to Pred). These lobbies exist! So that means that at any given time, the sweats are indeed being lumped together.
Ranked is arguably worse now than pubs with accuracy. I got diamond players queuing into my bronze team and now that I’m D4 I’m getting like one gold and one bronze player now.
The fact that SBMM exists in a rank system where the only discerning factor should be rank is so bad.
Pubs is honestly more accurate because it’s ONLY based on your match history. If you’re doing bad you’ll slowly get an easier lobby. If you’re doing good you’ll keep getting into harder lobbies until you die off rip over and over. Rinse and repeat.
Love how im about to try the game for the first time and see this when i search "Apex Legends"
RIP
@@KunguIl
Can confirm 1st real game, champ had 2k kills 🤮 i just got my first 2 😭
@@tuxk9040 It's a trial by fire, and somebody's gotta get burned 😔
Honestly your lobby looks like my randoms
U know its not a real game when theres 15 teams still alive in first ring
I’m level 4 and am getting in lobbies with people who have the 4k badge and are level 300
That is true. Here in Brasil there's almost no players online for a game in the morning. And at night is insane lol. So to find games faster I'm playing on US servers with 150 ping. At least I play. :)
everytime they updated the ranked, it's us casuals that suffers the most, as a group of 3 with 0.75 kd average, meeting 3 stacks of masters and preds in pubs didn't really fulfilled our need of having fun after 10 hours of work, it's stressing if anything.
I have kept my eye out for thegamingmerchant for a long time I hope I get a team up with him someday
The rarest time where i get a bot lobby, i'm not the only one non-bot so after 4/5kill i still get fucked
i’m not even joking, yesterday in a ranked game we found a 3 stack pred and the horizon on that team had 17 kills that game. he was prestige 3 level 89 with like 13000 kills
I got killed by the literal #3 current pred and then next game got killed by the #15 current pred.
Skill issue
@@tnytu3sday924 you right, my bad
I wonder why I get teammates worse than me
Too sweaty? Nope. Too many campers? Yes.
im glad you addressed this because ur YT videos are much different from ur streams as a content creator you have to cherry pick and pick ur best video's and that can lead people to believe you are consistently getting easy lobbies when ur streams reflect the opposite
Everyone expects games like this, but in reality the ones content creators show are usually after many many hours of dropping, dying and returning to lobby that just aren't shown on these social media platforms.
Barely keep a positive k/d, usually gold4/plat1 when I play ranked. I’ve spent all night playing solos, actively trying to tank my k/d. I have 8 kills and 43 deaths this season, still seeing nothing but masters and pred. Their matchmaking is horrendous. Legit the worst I’ve ever seen in any game by far
Does playing solo q unfilled put you in a lower skill lobby?
happens to me on xbox where ive played for 30 days and only have 2k elims total - and im in pred lobbies every single game and the weirdest fact is is that ive only ever made it to plat in rannked too so idk how im in those lobbies if ive never gotten close enough to be a master or pred anyways
Because where else are the preds to go? If they had to be in a pred only lobby matching them would take 40 plus minutes each game
I get killed by a 4k20 octane w no hitbox or aimbotting horizon 3 stacking literally every game as a solo queuer. Matchmaking is COMPLETELY and TOTALLY BROKEN.
Third option - you are the bot, so everyone farms you
So stupid all day im going into pubs like its ranked even tho I don't have nowhere as many hours as these 3 stacks
I haven’t ran pubs in months … Ranked is so much more fun, competing > running through mindless zombies
i started a PC account and during my orentation matches there was 50 people left at the end of round 1
I have like 3 hours of gameplay this season, i get home from work, want to play some nice relax games and i just get sweaty masters and preds every game -_-, the highest i ever got was diamond like 5 seasons ago
If you never get a bot lobby your the bot
I’m a season 12 D4 peak and I get thrown in games with top 20 preds. Yes I do pretty well in my games getting around 5-10 kills each match but I’m not top 20 Apex Predator good
5-10 kills is a loooot
i just had 30 games of people making careless mistakes
sweaty apex
last time i had a lobby like this was season 2
Bro what hurts is when you were doing bad and watch this video and see a solo queue was the one that killed you
I wouldn’t worry about all the cry babies in the comments about your bot lobbies or whatever. You’ve constantly posted your lifetime stats and they are no where near your typical “apex TH-camr” who boasts their lifeline stats showing how much they actually leave as soon as they get knocked like every other cliche wraith teammate.
You are absolutely most of the most genuine and most relatable apex player there is.
I think that horizon was me bro
some of those players did seem to be competent, they're just not sweating like their lives depended on it
My lobby’s ain’t hard, my teamates are so bad and just hotland or die immediately forcing teams just to push me with my white shield.
5:50 "what is going on" tbf the guy weren't to bad he made u double shield swap
im in rookie 2 play on london servers level 200 and get preds with 4k 20 bombs and idk what to do
Something is wrong with mines, im rarely home playing im a trucks driver play twice a months hightest kill is 8 around 2600dmg. Getting ppl in predator, 20kills badge or have more kills with a new legend than my lifetime playing apex(I've been playing apex since day1). I've had ppl that i shoot at break their shields and they run towards me instead of hide & heal. And yeah they kill me 😖
these stacked lobbies have made all of my friends stop playing. it's just not fun to get whipped every game by 15000kill players when you play 4 hours a week.
Hey gm I've been playing apex for a year I'm a Nintendo switch player and i think I have improved I've gotten 2ks 2.5k and a 3k never 4k or a 20 bomb my highest kill record is a nice 14 but do you think me a Nintendo switch player will get a 20 or is it just not possible.
Oh, that’s literally the number one reason why I deleted
I don’t think your lobbies are easier we just make them look like bots 😂
Ballistic is op and needs a major nerf
Died to the noob champion squad lol
What servers are you on
There was no video on the end screen 😢
Im level 5 and they put me with high levels and skilles players i start out the gamr because no fair matchmacking
Man I wish I had these pc lobbies man😔😔ps5 man it’s just full of sweats and I never ever got a bot lobby just three stacking masters and pred one clipping everytime sadnesss
Just play during school hours
I teamed up with a player that has never played before we played 2 games I got 21 kills best game ever soon realized during the second match that everyone was being a bot is it bc they where level 1 and party leader?
Playing ranked in Tokyo at night is sweat fest even in the gold rank.
Def could have had a 20 bomb with 5k if he didn’t spend so much time looting
What if I’m the bot in the lobby, what then?
I only get way too good lobbys, I do like 1 - 2 kills sometimes and then directly get stomped. Every fcking time. So I really think I want to end the Game because I dont have any fun to get killed all the damn time. I only get preds/masters the whole time. I play on a normal densed Server...Its really frustrating. I like the game but cant play it like this
What is your kd?
People looking for bot lobbies 😮
It seems like respawn "rewards" you for doing bad🤣 they need a massive sbmm overhaul, or a mode strictly for casual playing. Of course those sweats will infect the casual game mode if that was to happen.
Playing against people with 17mil damage with ONE legend while I have 2.5mil career damage. Nice.
3rd scenario why you might not be getting bot lobbies, because you are the bot. This is me.
I have a .68 kd .57 lifetime and my legend with the most kills is 400 keep ne out the diamond/master lobbies😭😭
it is actually cause you died 3 hours straight there is such a method to get "bot" lobbies
Wouldnt be so hard if i didnt get literal 9 year olds as teamates had an octane yesterday who was CLEARLY under the age of like 12 bro could barely form a proper sentence, dished out like 20 damage kept getting knocked. Hate me or not but i truly hate playing video games with kids
People don’t know they’re in a bot lobby, because they leave the second they get downed. So obviously they’ll be in the comments complaining. The trick I’ve learned is after they get knocked unmute your mic and say “let’s see how long it’ll take for them to leave ladies and gentlemen…” then they don’t, works every time🤣
That's a good tip lol
Love the honesty bro. But jeez… this is exactly why pc players should not be in console lobbies. The movement is just insane
Guess it wasn’t all bots lol
That never happens in SEA server
This does not make sense, because I just started playing Apex and I have people who have like 10000 kills
NO! Reality is that: I have 1 very nice game with 2000 damage = Next 5 games I gonzp against 15000 kills 20 bomb people
Pretty sure no fill makes it easier too
Idk I'm level 360ish and get put in diamond+ pubs lobbies when I no fill :/ and that's only the people who have their trails on lol
Can anyone help me to get the 20 bomb with newcastle ?
If you can’t get it on your own do you really deserve it though? I don’t even care about that badge mainly just from lobbies like this so kills the prestige of it 😅