I Built a City Of Lawless Anarchy and This Happened - Citystate
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- I Built a City Of Lawless Anarchy and This Happened - Citystate
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ABOUT: Citystate
Citystate is a city-builder and a political sandbox in which you plan, build and rule a micro nation from scratch. Design your map, your flag, name your State and pass the first policies! Get ready to face an independent economic system, experiment with political orientations and city-planning strategies to make your Nation strive toward success!
This is a sandbox game with a sandbox-style game play: set your own goals, apply your own ideology, explore the mechanics.
+ Realistic urban growth patterns, land value based dynamics.
+ Low income, middle income and upper income residential buildings.
+ Industrial zones, evolving from basic factories to high tech industries.
+ Commercial zones, evolving from small stores to malls, and tall office towers.
+ Arcologies, government buildings, parks and special unlockable buildings.
+ Modern true skyscrapers with 50+ floors.
+ 3 road types, monorail, airport and seaport.
+ One demand bar per social class.
+ Trade capacity / Infrastructures.
+ GDP growth rate.
+ Credit rating / Bonds.
+ Tourism
+ Demographics (population growth, poverty rate, income inequality,...).
+ Freedom Index (free market) VS Civil Rights Index (progressive).
+ Education, Health-care and Justice budgets.
+ 26 forms of government, from communist dictatorship to libertarian anarchy.
+ Slums and urban decay.
+ Large maps up to 4x4 miles (6.4x6.4km).
+ Flag Creator.
+ Resource management / exhaustion.
+ Sandbox mod.
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I guess we know what government is best. I actually have a question thinking about a place where the people determine everything, if you could make one law, what would it be?
gray i was first i came here with no likes no dislikes no views im gonna be the first person to ever like this vid, but there is 7 comments...
“Best government ever👏👏👏”
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0:55 I lnow you'll never read this but you could have put it's free real estate there, maybe next time?
Everyone has to have a pot of coffee a day or they die
Traffic, beaches, little to no laws, hotels...
You built Florida
more like California
Joe Figueroa Cali and FL are the first and fourth highest GDP states in America
More like Miami
As a Citizen of Florida. Our laws are more like guidelines.
Isabel Kyle no he created Miami.
You can’t spell “Flawless” without “lawless”
Now THAT'S a great joke
True
And you can't spell Slaughter without Laughter.
That works on *1* level
this didn’t work and i’m sad.
"The people are all wealthy because the government doesn't make any money."
Say that again real slow...I'm almost there.
You're damn right. 20-25% of your own dollars doesn't seem like much being taken from you per check, but add that tax rate to every working American and then realize how much money the government takes AND without transparency, how do you REALLY know where your money is going? We let the government tax us more and more like they aren't corrupted like, comon people... don't trust the government, trust yourself.
Build a culture that teaches people how to pay for their own healthcare, their own retirement, their own police and fire department, their own highways, their own schools, NOT a culture that just RELIES on the government taking your money to do it for you. Desperate people do desperate things, and to survive without help? Well, they'll find a way in an anarcho-capitalist society.
"Just a couple people that totally got off, bro." -Dennis Reynolds
Coffee Sploosh totally agreed federal government is needed but should stay out of the way as long as capitalism is being preserved within the markets. We pay way too much into the fed through taxes, I hate these people who claim lowering taxes hurts the lower classes because “trickle down” doesn’t work. Trickle down is a strawman created to refute Raegan esque tax policies. But its proven lower taxes improves the pockets of american citizens, its funny when people say otherwise. Anyways good comment!
@@gamingsaint6238 Thanks for the reply. I got into school for 20 weeks and racked up over 6k in debt. Ridiculous. I started my own business and didn't even need 6 grand to see a profit. Give us more choice, give us choices where our taxes go where the individual as a collective decide what's most important in our communities and country.
@@spaulding304 THANK YOU
I can imagine the 'government' is just like three guys in a small office sipping coffee and playing flappy bird while their computers have auto clickers just hitting 'accept' on a thousand requests from the people asking to do stuff.
As it should be.
AMERICA!
Libertarians and Anarchists:
"I see this as an absolute win."
The Lintnerd :))
We do😂😂
@@kasedunn3895 I know we do.
Yeet
The AnCap army will rise
Nobody : “So should we-“
Upper class: “OH DEAR GOD YES”
Long as they make money from it, they don't care xD
😍
Rob Fowler ?
Athena Wild ummm you’re pretty?
Rob Fowler oh, thank you☺️
"They're waiting to be stabbed"
No, they aren't. They have a frickin pistol.
If anything they and the criminals are on equal terms of "don't point that thing at me and stay out of my sight"
The last criminal to openly try met a Glock 18. And was squeegeed off the pavement.
There's also private security.
You know, guys that want to protect your family and don't care how fast you drive because there's no ticketing incentive?
@@TheAttacker732 Based AF
“Welcome to Ancapistan where every man can be a king!”
yesss
@eyan sorad nah
@eyan sorad *BIOSHOCK INTENSIFIES*
@eyan sorad as it should be. And anyone who believes otherwise is weak. And no I’m being 100% genuine and earnest. Only children and pets are loved unconditionally (and then only by their parents & family). Why should we give time to anyone who isn’t
@eyan sorad *M I N A R C H I S T !!!*
I like how this was meant to be like destructive and evil but it turned out to be like one of the best places I've ever seen
For the rich and influential it sure is; for the ones who don't have much they are subject to every whim of those in power. There is a reason the rich want less and less power for the government because if it doesn't have any, the money the rich have will buy them power and influence from the power vacuum. This also holds true in our societies with governments.
Not necesarily Maximilian Kuhn, because the goverment, is so small and limited, there is no way the rich can influence and put laws that benefit and outlaw or limit competition, so they have to compete.
Also because the mayority of work is private, the private companies have to compete for the workers, these increase salaries and benefice.
Also these means that because the law can be private and the state run very limited wealthfare, you are responsable for your decicion, so you have to take a good decicion, and take a career that make you to the workforce inmidiatly, as education is private, the best education, and more merits, also because the the laws are so minimals and basics, it is very dificult that companies become the corporations of today that can influence the goverment to the point they can do wathever.
Finaly because the police is private, or finance by private entities, these mean police officers are well pay and they feel the incentive to actualy do their jobs.
Also with no wealthfare and limited goverment, there is no bloat and because the state is minimal, there is no bloat and no necesity to raise taxes, so mayority of winnings go to the people, these means, the companies and industries, have to compete for the workers means, better benefits and better salaries, no doubt there will be abuse, but because there is jobs for everione, you dont like the job, you leave somewhere that pays better.
Finaly, because nearly all services are private, run there is very few posibilities of the state hires workersjust for put because friends or family, wich avoidthe bloat
@@paradoxalJohn Your first point is the luddite fallacy. People will find ways to make money, with or without automation.
I don't how a "poor" family would struggle if jobs were more common and the prices of goods and services being low due to competition. This premise relies on things being expensive in a stateless society, which isn't true.
The environment would be better of privatized as individuals have a better incentive to preserve it for profit and recreation. Most pollutions are caused by governments or organizations in bed with the government. Take the Soviet Union for example.
Try living in it.
@@paradoxalJohn that would be cool
"Water has no capitalistic gains"
Bottled water - "Am i a joke to you?"
Birki gts Nestle would love this
You destroy your own water, and then make a business out of importing water.
Your own water has no capitalistic gains.
He found out the hard way that water does have capitalistic gains. Beaches, swimming pools, boating, etc.
Nestle be like
He said after his first good moneymaking building was a beach
"Sweet baby Jesus of the oil" is the most beautiful American sounding response I have ever heard
I broke down and bought this game cause of this video I have almost 80 hours played thanks a lot
Is the game any good? I like games in this genre.
I see this as an absolute win
11:57 “the only problem with anarchy is that there’s no way for the government to make any money” ... yeah
I see that as a solution, not a problem
On the upside, they also need less money. If you provide almost no services, you need almost no money to pay for them. About the only thing you have to provide is basic infrastructure and with just a little bit of sales tax you can pay for those easily enough.
This wouldn't be hard to do IRL to be honest (harder than the game, but not by much).
Anarchy means no government.. exactly which government is profiting?? Lol
well, anarchy is about no government, so there is no "government making money".
And I am pretty sure, with such system, there will definitely be having some super rich monopolies but poverty will be like 80% of the population.
@@1090Ideas Ah ok that makes more sense lol
Tried to create a lawless State...instead wound up creating Dubai lol
Yeah but with like freedom
And coffee 👌
@@thenlnlkn But it ended up a libertarian oligarchy so I think they lost their freedom when private entities could own their own police. Freedom out the window
@@eagle3676 now the police are either private armies or security guards
i live in dubai and laws here haunt you at midnight
@@Aadvait lol
I love how he just relaxes all the laws and accidentally builds Dubai.
Gray: *trys to create a city without rules*
Gray: *actually creates Florida*
The apple never falls too far from the tree huh.
More specifically he created Orlando. A city of nothing but high rises, hotels, beaches, and amusement parks you had to devastated the local wetlands to build.
Sounds like Los Santos
Where are the alligators
"we built the city up as an anarchy, and god we made a lot of money doing it" - Gray 2019
11:51
My favorite quote of 2019 I’d love for this to be used in the real world
That line could very well be in a movie. Brilliant!
He has my vote next election
Phantomsinferno CAPITALISM RULES
*"OMG there's a hotel down here? I didn't do this, this just happened"*
free market in a nutshell
yes, I keep coming back to watch this over and over again, because while this is not a completely accurate simulation, it does give me the warm fuzzies, free-market wise at least 😄
@@hyperlanceitex6149 accuracy of name employee in building:
loli as a lolita the is a from russian people
You know anarchy is anarchy. The only thing that separates anacho communism and anacho capitalism is voluntarism.
@@sujaykrishnanath82 anarcho communism doesn't exist and is a contradicting ideology.
@@sujaykrishnanath82 You can't have anarchistic communism. Communism goes against human nature, you need to force the people into it. Anarchy is the lack of governmental control, so communism can't exist in an anarchy.
Last video: "Everyone is poor and diseased but they're happy"
This video: "Everyone is rich and prosperous and happy"
When the happiest good ending is hidden behind the Evil route
(The intent to create the most chaotic lawless society ended up producing one of the free-est most prosperous society of all)
*"No additional tax, I want to see every single vehicle giving mother nature the middle finger..."*
As it should be.
Based af
*_"Introduce a little bit of... anarchy"_*
My god, the joker was right all along!
the joker doesnt know the first thing about anarchy.
@Antiope4 Anarchy in the non-political sense does mean total chaos, lawlessness. But for this video, it's about anarchy as a political system.
@@Shijaru64 Anarchy will always end up in turbo capitalism
@@frodehp43 Totally agreed.
Yes, the Joker is the god of the new world, he shall make the new Soviet Army.
"The problem with anarchy is that there's no way for the government to make any money."...yup. You hit the nail on the head.
Government should have as little power as possible.
@@frankcastle4715 government shouldn't even exist!
That's no problem
@@bitzelijoschaevci3444 careful what you wish for. The government is a pain until you need it.
@@bitzelijoschaevci3444 it should
“The problem of this anarchy is the government doesn’t make money” YES
That's a good thing
Gray: "oh no. The roads"
Ancaps: *nervous sweating*
Our only weakness
Ancaps: Tolls for everyone! You pay a toll! You pay a toll! Everyone pays a toll! Except that guy in the helicopter. He pays landing fees.
A soon to be richer Ancap: "I'll pay to fix the roads between my business partners so we can trade more easily, and enjoy going to see each other more. I'll also do it to make trucking and logistics easier so the cash flows more freely"
See photos of American cities before the income tax....
"I'm gonna create a lawless city"
*Creates the metropolis from Halo*
No he made florida
@@sparecreeper1580 florida metropolis from halo then
Love how he tire to destroy everything with anarchy, but all the people banded together and made everything work!
like it always has
Wish humanity was like! We all can’t agree on anything.
@Firelord Eliteast67 yeah, what you all aren't realizing is that, in this simulation, it's just the rich exploiting the poor without limits.
@Cradle of Chaos
“yeah, what you all aren't realizing is that, in this simulation, it's just the rich exploiting the poor without limits.“
This is based on…?
@@cradleofchaos4923 na it seems more like, that there is a trickle down effect, that unlike in the real world works.
Socialist: *SCREAMING IN CONFUSION*
This statement brings me great amusement and joy.
Not really. This game was made by a classical liberal who follows *PragerU* of all things. I'm not going to take a video game as a model on how to run society, lol.
@@matthewlinus4691 Now that's a hilarious thing to learn five seconds after learning this game exists.
@@matthewlinus4691 its a game dude, chill, this is like saying that the sims is bad simulator, because it allows you to kill your sims
Me :
This game is quite realistic if you think about it, upper class loves everything you are doing because it makes it accessible to start business without following certain laws in turn saving money in the long run.
Same applies to lower class
It also makes the status of upper class accessible by the lower class.
Tried to create capitalist hellscape, accidentally created utopia.
This sounds like a fascinating setting for a novel.
u right :O
It's been done already. Futuristic Violence and Fancy Suits. It's not a bad book but it's hard to get into at first because of the main character.
@@PenTheMighty Why?
In the novel, an nihilistic liberal decides to screw over the world by starting a anarcho-capitalist state expecting it to fail but his plans backfires and he inadvertently creates a utopian society.
Probably what would happen in real life, too
Drinking game: Take a shot whenever the Upper Class is okay with this
Nah man, i kinda like my liver
shut the up
😂😂😂
You gonna be drunk AF!
@@FBI-real shut the up
"The worst part about anarchy is there's no way for the government to make any money"
11:50
Ancaps: The -worst- best part about anarchy is that there's no way for the -government- tyrant's institution to -make- steal any money
@@Adri9570 that sounds more accurate.
@@Adri9570 so without government who would protect you from enemy army’s
@@darklord7479 privatized defense
> ''our people are starting to become a lot of middle and upper class, which leaves not enough people to work the regular jobs''
> capitalism: suffering from success
“The biggest problem with this friggin anarchy is there’s no way for the government to make any money.”
Um. I don’t think you know what anarchy is.
Is great.
anarchy good
The Shitstorm Starter
The government wouldn’t exist
The best would be libertarian because it has a free market but it still has funds to maintain rights because of course we can’t have no laws
Gray created anarchy goddammit
Suffering from Success: Government Edition
The fact this was so successful was so beautiful lol
"So the last time we made a city where the goverment owns everything"
Soviet Anthem: *starts playing*
> Talks about anarchy
"Oh cool this should be interesting"
> Capitalist oligarchy
"ohshitancaps"
Maybe it's an oligarchy because all the population are high class
To be fair every democracy is an oligarchy because large corporations run the government
@@whiteduck5563 True, at least are current representative democracies are run by politicians and their wealthy friends
@@whiteduck5563 I mean, yes.
I thought this was weird because how can there be an oligarchy without a government? It just sounds like an insanely wealthy and prosperous society
At 18 when I first registered to vote, I jokingly registered as an anarcho-capitalist. I'm sure I'm still on a watch list somewhere.
Dead Im dead
Anarcho-capitalists are not real anarchists
@@Protomanbeawsome correct they are not.
@@Protomanbeawsome they're anarcho-capitalists lol
Dead Im dead well at least we know, an caps are weird folks
Anarcho-capitalists are not even people
There is a confusion between the word Anarchy and Chaos..
No matter the confusion, as a civilian you're fucked ...
@@Spongebob0911 I mean, civilians would have the power. I think that's the exact opposite of what you're imagining.
gold-and-black-anarchy Anarchy is inherently left wing. Abolishing the state compatible with left wing values. More government doesn’t equal left wing. Ronald Reagan massively increased the state in most respects (military, war on drugs,etc.) and he definitely wasn’t on the left. Anarchy can not be capitalist or right wing because capitalism and right wing politics are about establishing hierarchies and it creates inequality. Left wing politics are about dismantling hierarchies and increasing equality. Communism is a moneyless, classless and yes STATELESS economic system. Capitalism is the definition of an unnecessary hierarchy and anarchy is inherently opposed to unnecessary hierarchies. Under so-called “capitalist anarchy” the most powerful corporations would effectively become the new state and therefore it can not be anarchist by definition. Being an anarchist (among other things) means opposing capitalism and the state simultaneously. Socialism (worker ownership of the means of production) and Communism (I already defined this) are meant to dismantle hierarchies, at least ideally, and are completely compatible with anarchism. And yes some self proclaimed communist countries had states (the USSR, Mao’s China) however, not all types of communism are completely anarchist (such as Marxism-Leninism) and the state is supposed to wither away by the time those societies transition to full communism, which would probably take decades, also those states tend to become corrupt and turn away from communism back to capitalism (China is the perfect example of this.) Anarchy can not be right wing by definition. Also capitalism is what really enslaves people and steals from them. If you don’t work under a capitalist system you won’t have money to buy food and you starve. This coercion is effectively slavery. Also in the third world it’s not at all uncommon for people to be literally enslaved at gunpoint, such as cobalt mining in the Congo. Capitalist anarchism, also known as fake anarchism only opposes the government and allows corporations to become an even worse government simply because it doesn’t call itself the government. And it will be worse because corporations make money of exploiting people so they have a financial incentive to make things worse. True anarchism opposes all unjustified hierarchies and no matter what, whether it’s capitalism, the state, or anything else. That is all.
gold-and-black-anarchy Maybe you should read it, everything in my comment is correct. Also I don’t support the Democratic Party, I’m not even American, and the Democratic Party definitely isn’t anarchist, so I have no idea why you brought it up like it’s a response to what I wrote. Anarchy opposes unjust hierarchies, such as capitalism and the state alike. I’m not trying to pull the wool over your eyes by secretly shilling for the state, I have no reason to do that. Also I don’t plan on dying anytime soon, so the world will have to deal with my correctly explaining anarchy for at least a little while longer.
Jean-Luc La Rue You ever hear of a little thing called “anarcho-capitalism”? It’s socially anarchist and economically, free markets rule. 0 government intervention. It’s beautiful.
Honestly whoever made this game did their research.
Of course, full anarchy isn’t good, but a free market, less regulations, and less taxation, can lead to more being done, as people have more to spend.
The less interference that exists the faster things improve only bad thing is exploitation improves too
Government is good at three things,
Stealing your money,
Taking away your liberty,
And killing people.
They suck ass at everything else.
@@errorcringyname4044 Government is exploitation
@@jamesdean4836 Well done
Free market always lead to oligarchy and wealth inequality
Who came here after Timcast IRL stream?
Me lol
Which episode was this?
I heard about this on timcast and immediately thought "I wonder if gray played that game" then I find out "oh he was talking about gray specifically"
@@thebigkbear9881 same!
This popped into my feed the day after i watched that episode of Tim's podcast.
Nice profile picture
Gray: sure anyone can be a taxi driver
Me: Thats what uber is
Just take away any required permits or background checks and you're all set
@@dusty2080 That's what Uber was before they got sued.
@@Briskrainbow0
Oh yeah, was that the thing related to kidnapping/assault?
@@dusty2080 Yup. Several cases of sexual assaults/kidnappings happened with Uber drivers taking home drunk or just simply lone women at night. In my opinion, it is like everyone forgot the reason why Taxi Drivers had a lot of regulations and licensing.
@@Briskrainbow0 That idea was backwards to begin with. Hitchhiking has had a bad reputation for being risky for decades, and for good reason. But getting into an unlicensed cab is effectively the same thing; only you get to pay for the privilege of being in danger.
Gray: literally gives everyone codes for nuclear bombs
The game: *the upper class liked that*
Me: i hear a nuke comeing WAIT I SEE A NUKE COMEING AHHHHHHHH RUN RUN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I have watched graystillplays for about two months and last night i was listening to a podcast that mentioned the time a game youtuber played this game and tried to break it by making no laws and going full anarchy, i thought to myself "that sound like something gray would do" and look what popped up in my feed today.
Michael Malice, is out there somewhere just like “Yeah, I told you.”
I can just imagine game developers feeling very depressed after watching gray as the game they made for normal play is being fucked up.
Seems normal to me.
As a dev myself I love seeing people play my games in ways I’ve never thought of
He's not really doing anything particularly crazy. The game just seems to be really easy.
He wasn't doing anything nearly as game breaking in this one as he does in other games. Gray is actually the best kind of tester for developers. The first thing I was taught by the person teaching me game design was: Try to think of every way a player can break your game, and how to stop them from doing it. You can never think of everything though, and people do strange things. Gray shows you just how he can break a game. He has a natural talent for it.
Silicon Valley is mostly Libertarian, despite our reputation. Conservatives hear we don't care about gay marriage, transgendered people and we're mostly atheists - therefore we must be liberuls. This game is showing the bias of the coders.
"Homelessness? No support. Deal with it."
Big oof lmbo
Also gets lower class support
+Skyler's Animations
don't wanna be homeless? either get a job or don't gamble your house away in the first place. no government intervention required.
@@voltagedrop5899 ahh I wish i was as young and naive as you :')
people who say lmbo instead of lmao are big gae
@@piggi5xtheawesome973 Actually I doubt their sexual orientation is determined by their level of swearing
Dude the second I heard Tim say the name greystillplays I got a huge smile and I knew exactly what video he was going to mention
I watched this video because of Tim.
same here
@@gsgunawan80 may i ask which video was it?
@@mizuki4002 th-cam.com/video/WlPPCAQzMSA/w-d-xo.html
🤣 11:51
"The biggest problem with this fricken anarchy is there's no way for the government to make any money."
He should of named it “It’s Free real-estate”
yes!
Should’ve or should have
No He should named it FLORIDA CITY
e *state*
It's costly real e
Simcity: Intense micro-management required
Citystate: Things just.... happen
They "happen" according to how the game programmers have decided that they will "happen". This is NOT REAL LIFE.
Anthony Davis calm ya tits. It is real life.
Anthony Davis not really the less regulated private property is and the less amount of taxes are charged the more successful the country is
@@andrespinilla8611 No its not thats lies the rich tell the poor so the poor accept horrible conditions and don't complain
@@pimp963 why do the poor need to rely on government? can't they take responsibility for themselves
This video: **Exists**
Every source of authority and law: “I’ll allow it.”
"animals? you can do whatever the hel you want with em" lmfao
"I want every single vehicle to give Mother Nature the middle finger" XDXD
"Gender Equality, you guys figure it out!"
My sides XD
bames jond Possible borderline enslavement of women ;u;
@@ScarrVett This kinda system would end up enslaving anyone who can't make enough money, are you saying women can't make money? Brawn would mean nothing here, brains would be everything, are you calling women stupid?
That government involvement in these kinda things creates gender equality is a myth. In my country which have lots of government involvement with this, studies have found that the genders self segregate despite the government trying to prevent it. The only field that naturally ended up with a 50/50 gender ratio was politics. Truth is, just because some women likes fishing it doesn't mean that there are tons of women that secretly want to fish. And just because some men like styling hair, it doesn't mean there are tons of men that secretly want to style hair. Men and women simply don't like working together that much either. What the study found was that when the government force more women into a certain field men will leave that field. That is because this kind of capitalist system works on exploiting our natural instinct to compete, and men aren't in competition with women, they compete for women. And in the same way, women are not in competition with men, they compete with each other for men. Work was never really about making money, money was always just the rating system that told other people if you're mating material. Capitalism is essentially just the modern way of hitting each other with sticks and rocks to see who gets to have babies. In this system you won't be enslaved for being a woman, you will be enslaved for being poor. You can argue that men will try to keep women poor out of self interest, but men are just half the population, so it's not like women couldn't try to do the same to men. The only real advantage men have over women is physical strength, while women have the advantage of being more socially aware, and I'd dare to say that being more socially aware is a better advantage in a modern society such as this. Very few men are scared of using their physical strength against women, they're scared that woman will use her social influence to make other men punish him for doing so. So it's possible that in such a society with no government interference both violence and manipulation would become illegal, or both would be legal, both of which would actually make it more equal than our standards. Today, it's illegal for men to use his advantage, but it's not illegal for women to use her advantage, so I'd argue that women already have far more power than men in modern western society and it's just taking some time for the full effect of this to show. All a woman has to do is act scared and innocent and helpless and most men will happily use violence against other men to defend and protect her without even knowing the story, when it becomes clear that women are not so innocent and have equal or more power than men, this will change and men will stop having the desire to use force against other men. When this happens not only will we become more peaceful and end all wars, but women won't be able to get away with manipulation anymore either, and then we'll have accomplished the goals of feminism. It'll be a much more boring world, but a much safer one too as sexual drives will basically have been rendered inert and with it will go things like greed, power, control, and so on, and then we can finally build our perfect utopia and focus on more important things like finding spiritual enlightenment, protecting nature and creating art, while most work will become a thing of the past. That's why I'm a feminist despite that I think that most of modern feminism currently is just being ridiculous.
Daniel I'm not calling women stupid, I'm just saying that it's *possible* for an anarchist society to go by an extreme patriarchal structure for something like that to happen.
There wouldn't be an institution to enforce "possible borderline enslavement of women", but maybe there's no institution to prevent that IF it's allowed and socially acceptable.
It's not definite, but it's possible
well considering that "gender equality" means equality of outcome you can't have an anarcho-capitalist system with socialistic policies
Here Bc it was mentioned by Tim Pool (of all people lol)
I was looking to see who else watches Tim lol. I saw the title and thought "Was he talking about Gray here? Cause this looks exactly like what Tim mentioned."
Aye me too!
Wait, he did? Which video did he mention it in?
Yeah same
me too
Wow. It’s almost like the government isn’t needed 😂
I think the most amazing part about this is that he could continue to anger the lower classes without any problems because the lower classes didn't exist in the city at all! Everyone was middle or upper class!
11:50
"The biggest problem with anarchy is there's no way for the government to make any money."
This statement is deeper than it has any right to be.
That's why everyone prospers!
"problem"
There's literally no government though.
@@RP-qe8mv lmfao did you really just use Switzerland to prove a point about government involvement? You mean one of the "European paradises" that give a plethora of free social programs to their citizens like college and healthcare?
The truth is that human success isn't primarily predicated on government vs private involvement. It's mostly based on competence and trust. A system that is run fairly and without corruption is the best option. It's a fact that corruption can happen in both government and in private industry to absolute absurd degrees. So it's kind of just fundamental human nature that's holding us back from a real paradise, not some silly ideologies about "big vs small govt".
What he did is he owned public places and had fees they paid that way
Every nation that has cut government beuracracy has generally seen their wealth increase.
Yet another Tim Pool shoutout of this video on IRL tonight. Had to give it another view. =D
lol thats why im here
Me too
Haha me too
Me 5
Same here
"This biggest problem with this friggin' anarchy is there's no way for the government to make any money."
That's the point. Anarchy means no government. It's rather self-evident that when there's no government, that non-existent government won't need any money.
@Tyler Reese I agree that anarchy means 'no rulers.' Another way of saying that is 'no government,' or perhaps a better way to say that is 'no state,' but we tend to use the terms 'the state' and 'the government' interchangeably.
Money is necessary for any economy with divisions of labor and divisions of labor are necessary for any economy to progress beyond a mere 'cave-man-like' economy.
Depends on what you mean by equality. Equality of opportunity is a laudable goal that is nearly achieved (though the progressives are fighting hard to against it.) Equality of outcome is an idiotic idea that cannot be achieved in a society more advanced than a 'cave-man-like' society ... and even in a cave-man-like society it's not really possible, it's just that the differences between become minimal.
@Tyler Reese First of all,
I said _laudable_ NOT _laughable._
I agree the 'the government' and 'the state' are not the same thing. They are, however, used interchangably in our society, which is what I said. The government is the apparatus. The state is the people who control that apparatus. At least that's how it was explained to me.
There's so much wrong with your second paragraph, I don't even know where to begin. First of all, 'money' is not the worthless pieces of paper we are now forced to use. 'Money' is simply a common commodity that is widely accepted which can be used as a means of exchange. The alternative to money is barter and barter CANNOT support a complex economy.
If being a doctor and being a ditch digger both paid exactly the same we'd have allot fewer doctors. A main problem with the utopian type societies like what you describe is the problem of incentives. We have TVs and cars and cell phones and cargo ships and so forth because someone invented them in an effort to make a profit. Without that incentive, who would take all the risks necessary to invent new products? Russia had exactly this problem.
There's a sickness going around our society right now which is the idea that rich people are rich because they're evil. No doubt some of them are, and no doubt, some of them use their riches in nefarious ways, but rich people get rich in the first place because they offer something to society that society wants, something that improves society. You say 'they need us, we don't need them' and you're right as long as you don't mind giving up cars, computers, grocery stores, and all the other things they invented/produced/etc.
I've started a business. I sacrificed to save up money then risked that money to start up a business. Then I hire someone to help out and your argument is that I should give them the same wages I make myself? Why? What did they sacrifice? What did they risk? Think it through, if my employees got an equal share of everything, why would I sacrifice to save and then risk that money in the first place?
The very first economy set up by European settlers in the new world was a communist economy. No one had any incentive to work. Consequently, 90% of them died the first winter because they had no stores of food, no stores of firewood, etc. There are 500 settlers and my job is to chop firewood. Because I have to share equally with everyone, for every 1000 pieces of wood I chop, I get to keep 2. How much wood am I going to chop? Not much.
The second governor of that colony changed it over to a capitalist economy and it thrived from then on.
The last thing I want to point out is that anarcho-communism (or anarcho-socialism) is an oxymoron. Whose going to force a school to take someone who can't afford to pay the tuition? All forms of socialism (like communism) require a totalitarian form of government to force people to give up (share equally) whatever they've produced. The only fair way is to let each one benefit from their own labors. This means those who work hard will have more than those who don't, and thus there will be people in different economic tiers (or classes if you prefer.) Those who produce/invent something that society wants they are rewarded, incentivizing others to produce/invent. When you don't benefit from your own labor, you have no incentive to labor.
@@Lord_Volkner Cool comment, I agree with you. But why anarcho-communism is not possible? There can be a anarcho-communism commune without government where people would enter voluntary. They would just kick out of that commune by its members if they don't agree with the rules. Despite I don't like communism and prefer capitalism as well, I think there are people for whom it is suitable. You're right about the problem of incentives, but I think there are people who can work productively in socialism society too.
@@danilpopkov8211 There are people who 'can' work productively in a socialist society, but what incentive do they have to do so? One of the major fallacies of all forms of socialism is it's fundamental assumption that people are all equal; we're not. Some people are deligent, some of not, some are hard working, some are lazy, some are clever, some are dim-witted and so on.
Let's imagine a socialist society for a moment. The hard-working people get paid the same as the lazy people. Before long, the hard working people are going to pack up and leave. Now we just lost the productive members in society. The only way to prevent this is to prevent them from leaving. There are two ways to do that: provide incentives (pay them more) or compulsion (force them to stay.) If we take the first route, that is, if we pay each one according to how much value they add then we're no longer a socialist society; we're back to capitalism. If we take the second route, we need an authoritarian state to force them to stay.
But let us imagine that we force them to stay, what incentive do they have to keep working hard? Again, we're back to incentives or compulsion. One is the antithesis of socialism and the other is authoritarianism. Thus anarcho-socialism is an oxymoron.
But now let us take the route you refered to, getting rid of anyone who doesn't measure up. Now we're Stalin with slave labor camps (or gulags as they were called in Russia,) or Hitler with concentration camps or Mao with death camps. And who gets to decide who measures up and who doesn't? Well, you have to have a centralized authority for that, which is the exact opposite of anarchy. Socialism requires an authoritarian/totalitarian centralized body (state) to function. Thus anarcho-socialism is an oxymoron.
For a good look into how these things actually worked in the real world, I highly recommend _The Gulag Archipelago_ by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. You can find a free audio version of Vol 1 here:
archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago
Vol 2 here:
archive.org/details/107GulagVolTwo
and Vol 3 here:
archive.org/details/103GulagVolThree
@@Lord_Volkner
"There are people who 'can' work productively in a socialist society, but what incentive do they have to do so? "
maybe respect, glory, curiousity(in case of inventions), whatever. I actually don't care about that, just wanted to mention that there are some people who are not motivated by money only, so if we actually had the freedom of association, I think it is possible that a couple of such communes would arise. In addition to that, there could be cooperative forms of business, where intial capital is provided equally by all of the workers and all of them have equal responsibility. As far as I know, there are forms of socialism which don't suppose having the strong government.
is this what Ron Swanson knew would happen all along?
He knew someone would play a videogame?
@@Ayelis nah, i meant this is why he hated the american government system
I was actually thinking exactly this😂
@Ludvig Lindén ahh interesting. Do you think it would really work?
@Ludvig Lindén will do!
9:44 Welcome to a ski sloaps next to a ski sloap next to a ski sloap...
This is how Switzerland works
“I guess the problem with this frickin’ anarchy is that there’s no way for the government to make any money.”
That’s the exact opposite of a problem.
No additional taxes on cars
Middle Class: *Absolutely Approves*
Upper Class: *Approves*
Lower Class: ...
I don't know why you think they wouldn't approve as well. Everyone like lower taxes. Most poorer people still have at least a car, and I'm sure they'd love to pay less on it as well.
Can't disapprove if there is no lower class 🤷♂️
Liz Price
This comment was poking fun at some of the logic fails of this game
Lower Class: what car??
Josny13
Since you failed to realize and/or read the reply to “Liz Price”..
This comment was poking fun at some of the “logic fails” and the fact that people find it funny that the upper class approves
"Welcome to Washington+More Coffee, here's your complimentary catgirl and AR-15. Now git off my property."
"hippity hoppity get out my private property"
LMAO
"Free stuff? Sounds like communism *shoots you dead*"
Your paying. Not my taxes :)
@@RainbowManification not free, *complimentary*.
Every time you implement a law that the low class doesn’t like, they move out.
They couldn't move out, though. He never completely connected up that stupid break in the stupid, sloppy highway he made at first.
No, they die. Most commenters seem to forget, or don’t care about that fact
@@waluigiisthebest2802 better than the shitholes in California and Baltimore
He got the mechanic of the game wrong. That's not the aproval rate, that's how much that class will grow or shrink in size because of the decision.
Basically everytime you see the lower class going down, and one of the others going up, it means people are becoming richier.
And that's how you solve poverty
you got mentioned on timcast
You should try one where you start with anarchy and change it all in a split second to strict as hell government
Kris Murrell Aka every Democracy 3 playthrough ever 😛
So Venezuela.
pretty much every democratic country right now.
Everybody leaves and now you have a concrete desert. Good job.
@@xiconp1993 That's why fascists love walls. They don't just keep people out.
If Ron Swanson was the mayor of a city.
Especially since he works for the government.
@pavo6503 No, because he does zero work lol. It's why he works for the government, to ensure that they don't do anything at all.
Not to worry everyone. Ron Swanson has a permit!
And it just says, "I can do what I want"!
Why does this style of government suddenly seem like a good idea right about now?
because you have seen the deleterious effects of government. more freedom is better. the government slaps their rules on top of what humans deem fair, so the laws would never be needed anyways. they only sabotage. mostly.
This video temporarily turned me into an ancap.
Temporarily?
@@crusaderking8277 in reality it’s different
@@NoName-mi7bd in reality we don't have anything close to anarchy. but the closest we have (switzerland, hong kong, australia, new zealand) are pretty much superior to every nation. and in general the weaker the government the freer the market, the more prosperous are the people.
@@DBV-iu1qw Australia’s government is incredibly over reaching what are you on about 😂
@@NoName-mi7bd if you could speak english i would probably be able to understand you
Don't know why I clicked but am glad I did.
Same.
I love how you expect it to be all crime and chaos, but instead the rich found their dream home.
I know its unbelievable, lol.
Sounds accurate. Give people the ability to do their own thing, and you would be surprised on what they can do.
You have to understand that once you realize the media always blows negative stories out of proportion because it gets more sales, that few people actually go on crime sprees relatively speaking. So why exactly would there suddenly be nothing but crime and chaos?
The rich is more heavily taxed and people still whine about these low-crime producers giving people too many jobs and salaries.
@@dragoneye6229 Pretty sure those employees working in this city are just slaves.
Team Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist for the win🥳💛🖤✊🏻
Isn't this pure capitalism? I would love to live there.
Don't fall in front of someone's lawn, you'll violate the NAP and get McNuked
@@Resident-of-Pluto smh if u violate private property do you even deserve life
@@Resident-of-Pluto and that’s a bad thing because…?
@@praxlandy I mean, if you like to be vapourised then you do you.
@@Resident-of-Pluto Why would you? and probably you aren't going to get killed if u fall into somebody's lawn, and a nuke would violate at least another people's NAP, so violating another NAP becouse another people violated NAP on you isn't the brightest idea.
"Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem!"
I think you win.
Limited goverment, limited and doing only the necesary for the existence of the nation, so a minimalistic aproach
Krysnha minarchy
@@Krysnha Which is unsustainable because governments always expand their influence
Indeed Albedo, indeed, but in the hipotetical case you have a minimum goverment with no intention to expand, of course again, imposible, human nature, those who have more want more, that is why is imposible to ever have a good goverment, human nature
Wait so when the government controls everything everyone is lower class but in an anarchy everyone is upper class?
Is this game trying to tell us something
They know free markets are always superior.
SonicMaster Sword - all heil capitalism
This game was clearly designed by Austro-libertarians, because who the hell else knows who Ludwig von Mises is
You know this is a game right?
FBI open up!!!
you are in possession of knowledge that shouldn't get out, you are under arrest.
"just because you can doesn't mean you should" would probably be the motto of an anarchy government
Game developers:Create nice game with good features
Gray: *Fucks it up*
*thAt's juSt ThE gRaY wAy brO*
Lel Memes why does this seem stolen
Gray is totally a better manager of the people. HE UNITED THE PEOPLE.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Gray, on the other hand, had no good intentions. In fact, he had no intentions for people at all.
@@MrJH101 True, even though his intention was to DESTROY make everything fall apart... in this case... instead of the world falling apart, breaking the game.... he did the exact opposite....
Otaku-chan Anime yep, this was a case of extreme irony. There have been countless leaders who always started off wanting to perform many great things, but ended up doing some real horrifying or brutal acts when they had power.
And then we have Gray here, the anarchist who just wanted to see the world destroy itself for a few selfish laughs, but ended up making it better somehow without even intending it to work out that way.
...I guess it’s true what they say, “Nobody in politics truly gets what they want.”
@@MrJH101 I... honestly don't know whether to be impressed that he managed to unite people despite the fact that he actually want to make them suffer or disappointed that he didn't get his way to make everyone suffer... what do you think?
@a fantasy I think it was technically a win-win for him no matter what. Good stratagems always seek out the best possible outcomes. Great stratagems have outcomes where it’s never a loss either way.
Let me guess, you're watching this video after Tim's podcast
Only because I watch Gray usually and never saw this video
Guilty
gray: lets people do whatever they want
people: builds a hotel
also gray: I diDnt mAke tHIs ThiS haPpEneD oN itS owN
Gray: what should we call a citystate with no laws?
Me: the purge
Gray: Washington + more coffee
Wellll a few MILLION dead in the middle East and tens of millions here because of the FDA is pretty much the Purge right? Pledge allegiance baby
This isn't Anarcho-capitalism, the roads are state funded!
The people wanted better roads. Went to the road construction crews worked out a deal and bam new roads built faster and better than anything current crews could do.
Sure, but it's close. The game designers realized you have to let the player do *something*, even if they chose as little government as possible.
Lol, yeah if the player plays as the state, then the player can't play an AnCap society.
Many interesting replies. I wonder what kind of results would arise from a pure anarcho-capitalist *simulation* in that case.
@@T--xo2uq sit at keyboard
watch game
Came here after tim pool mentioned it
Same
Same.
What?
Michael Malice would be very pleased
You got it all wrong, Anarchy/Voluntaryism does not mean no rules, it means no rulers.
It's a little of both, really. With no government to enforce laws, the only rules are those that society agrees on together. Namely, nonaggression towards others unless that person commits aggression against you first. Typically that's about the only thing all humans can agree on. Anything else would have to be a local case by case basis.
Except that as we saw in this video, companies become the rulers.
@@BandNerdcp except that with free trade and no regulations, there will be greater competition from within and from without. So power will remain fragmented. No need to ask the government for permission = no special interests granted
1queijocas No subsidies either, and since there’s no bailouts from the (non existent) government, there can’t be any monopolies.
None of you have played the Crackdown series, huh?
its amazing what happens when the government doesn't take a cut every step of the way 🤔
Who else is here bc Timcast mentioned him?
Yep
>Create Capitalist anarchy
>Everything goes pretty good
>Bernie Sanders has left the chat
Capitalism only works in a simulation.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Nah. If the banana republics in central america have shown us anything, Capitalism works really well. It just isn't very fun for most people in the end.
@@Audiodump So it sucks then
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I mean...it has less genocides than communism.
@@Audiodump This nonsense again?
Gray: In the anarchy, water is a secondary thing, it doesn't need to exist, it doesn't provide any sort of capitalistic gains
Minutes ago: let's make a beach!
And more beaches, and a marina.
And a Ski Slope... a lot of ski slopes.
Heard Tim Pool mention this video a few times and decided to finally check it out and i am not disappointed
All I learnt from this video is that you can create a utopia if you eliminate any and all government involvement.
I would vote for Gray if he ran for president.
Gray 2020!!!
2024
@@Bluesonofman Did you just assume -his gender- that he will run in America? 😂 🤣 🤣 😂
Imagine he ran for president, scary and nice.
ever heard of John McAfee? ;D
Running for president damn it.
Congratulations, you just invented Hong Kong in 1990 :)
@Garalithic Perez r/whoosh
@@nefer-trebeledfomp-4129 then your hookers have shitty ass implants
"The biggest problem with this anarchy is there's no way for the government to make any money."
Yes. And that's why anarchy is so derided by those in power.
"Homelessness? No support. Deal with it."
DaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
I would say crime would increase, but they probably enslave any homeless who turns to crime.
I wish there was a city building game where whenever you want you could go down, walk around, and interact with your city GTA sandbox style.
Me too
I would love that XD
I'm pretty sure there is but I cant for the life of me remember the name
There was Streets of Simcity and Simcopter, though no walking I'm afraid
It was called Metropolis 2 for the ps2. Was a dam good game when I was little