World’s Most Dangerous Exercises! (UPRIGHT ROWS)
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Years back I threw the upright row exercise into my 5 worst exercises of all time, and buried it in my iron graveyard. Today, I’m revisiting the upright row and all its variations to see if it needs to be dug up or buried even deeper as I cover my “World’s Most Dangerous Exercises”, continuing right here at the shoulder joint.
When I included this originally, I gave my reasons for doing so. Remember, there is no personal axe to grind for me against any particular exercise or movement. I start out with a blank slate with them all and unless given a reason to dislike them…love them all! As a physical therapist, I am trained to look at an exercise on its own merit and determine whether it is something that is safe first and foremost and capable of producing results.
In the case of the upright row, this shoulder exercise is one that needs to remain six feet under. Here’s why.
The anatomy of the shoulder joint is such that there is a limited amount of space above the ball (in the ball and socket) for the bone itself as well as the other many important structures such as the rotator cuff tendons, bursa, and biceps tendon. When the shoulder joint is internally rotated (as you do with the upright row) you are rotating the greater tuberosity on the humerus directly into the joint, leaving less room for all of these structures.
If on the other hand you externally rotated your upper arm at the shoulder joint, you would do the exact opposite. External rotation at the shoulder joint creates extra room for the ball to move within the socket and still leave room for the other structures mentioned before.
When performing the upright row exercise however, you are forcing your shoulder joint not only into internal rotation but you are combining it with elevation. This simply does not anatomically sit well or rank as a safe motion (especially when you consider the repetitive nature in which you do it from set to set, workout to workout. Changing the hand position to be wider and using an ez curl bar, while slight improvements, do not come close to fixing the problem. The only way to overcome the inadequacy of the upright row is to stop using barbells and instead use dumbbells and perform something called the high pull.
The high pull allows you to get your hands up and back behind your body when you lift them. This is due to the external rotation that can be obtained at the shoulder joint rather than the negatively impacting internal rotation. Because the dumbbells are not fixed in place or connected via a bar that cannot pass through your body, you can maneuver them this way to get the relief the shoulder joint is looking for to make this exercise safe.
Mobility doesn’t solve the issue either. Increasing shoulder mobility at the expense of stability in a different part of the shoulder is not solving the problem. The bottom line is, this exercise is a bad exercise that deserves to stay buried in the iron graveyard. There are many other options for developing the delts and certainly the traps.
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I'm in my mid 40's...did so many bad excercises!!
You young bucks are so fortunate to have the interwebs
"Mid 40's"
"Young bucks"
"interwebs"
You're the first mid 40 year old to be in their 80's
Critical Thinker grow tf up
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Jeff, plz do a video on the natural limit. I want to know why Richard Piano and Kali Mussolini got that big naturally
this is the funniest shit i've read all day
Rich Piano's 5% Investment Analytics Company dude rich piano doesn't even claim natural, DISRESPECT. And idk about kali muscle but I think he did claim natty
Mario Peterson Rich doesn't need to claim natural, anyone with eyes can tell that he only consumes REAL FOOD and All day you may
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Gotta confuse Jeff's channel, right babe??
That exercise just caused me an injury, been out of the gym for 3 months, thanks athlean-x for warning people about this exercise
because you are doiing it wrong and you have weak shoulders
Red War Truth
@@SpartanHellas What's the right way of doing it, and how do you know?
@@GoyFromFinland don't carry more than you can chew this is a easy lift to get ahead of yourself with. feels alright with me.flex your traps at the bottom.
@@SpartanHellas not necessarily its very dependent on your anatomy
Some exercises just feel wrong instinctively, upright rows is one of them
For me it's the same for pulling/pushing something behind my head.
Flamer Damn you are dumb. Just because (for example) I luckily didn’t get hurt doing it does NOT mean everybody else will not. This exercise is just plain dumb. Get over it.
You are correct I am 65 and still lift ,upright rows are very good for your shoulders !!
Fuck you pretard there is nothing wrong with upright rows , you youboob moron ,Go lay by your dish dumb ass !!
Try on cable
My shoulders were always making cracking sounds when I was doing this exercise. Now I know why.
Same! Both my elbows click a lot. If I put my arm up, like I'm raising my hand to get the teacher's attention lol, but then bend at my elbow, I get maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad clicking.
Athill Sivapatham I'm the same. my elbows and shoulder crack and click all the time. worries me sometimes
More like cracking in my wrists lol.
Alexandru Marcu it happens even with a side lateral raise bro..
i get the burning sensation in my shoulder muscles while doing the upright row and side lateral raise
mine still do because of this exercise and I don't do it anymore
"So you got elevation with internal rotation. That is a bad combination." Jeff is a Rap God, I'm waiting for an album.
Thats BARS lol
D P Baahs
lol
I’ve never had any bad experiences with this workout, I enjoy it.
I was a power lifter. I completely agree. I screwed up both my shoulders and my elbows with this piece of crap exercise. Good riddance.
Doing some research - I aggravated my right elbow between using a mouse at a computer all day, fishing a bunch last year, and lifting... I thought pull-ups were doing it but maybe it was the upright rows? What do you think, Francis?
Jeff deserves every one of his 3 million subscribers
Dale Jackson Every one of his subscribers doesn't deserve Jeff
Well. They kinda do. Because without subscribers he wouldn't be anything. I know Jeff is your "god" and all, but at least make a comment that is truthful.
I think he was kidding...
Athill Sivapatham I was joking, but he would still be something without his subscribers. He trains pro athletes and others. He started TH-cam years ago as a way to give his clients additional info and stuff. You should "at least make a comment that is truthful".
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Thank you, Raymond, for being so selfless and allowing Jeff to dislocate your shoulder like that to show all of us what is really going on in our arms.
I literally just started doing these... rip
use dumbells
try going wider than shoulder width and stop ROM at nipples. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised
@@mltonsorangestapler Did you even watch the video?
I was a competitive power lifter from 1977 to 1982 in the New England region. I was able to bench press over 2 1/3 times my body weight without any shoulder pain or injury. I credit the use of upright rows and close grip bench presses for keeping my shoulder joints strong and tight and preventing rotator cuff injury. I was always careful with my form and did them as support movements for my bench press. The only time I stopped doing upright rows was a few years ago when I tweaked my lower back and for the first time experienced internal shoulder pain. The pain when away as soon as I resumed upright rows.
How did you perform them? Close or wide grip?
It's hotly debated. There are tons of videos claiming it's totally fine too. Personally I think the way to go is to do it with the rope on a cable machine so that you can perform the full movement without the ball rotating inside the socket and the wrists bending at a near ninety degrees.
Let me take a guess here... you use lighter weights and focus on perfect form, mind-muscle connection, and making sure you're working the muscles hard. Most people use weight that's way to heavy for them. So their form isn't good, and they put strain on the joints instead of working the muscle properly. Steve Reeves did these all through his career - really gave him broad shoulders (along with the other stuff he did).
I believe it's bc your body/shoulder might have very special physic to allow that. Like everyone thinks - not everybody can manage to have a full split exactly bc this kind of bond bumps.
Upright rows are the only exercise that doesn't hurt my shoulders, and it feels absolutely amazing on my delts. can you give some more information on sets and reps that you used?
so you got elevation with internal rotation, that's a bad combination. Jeff's droping some bomb rhymes there!
Athlean raps
An' he's droppin' science.
Bars g now in a pandemic
Jeff could single-handedly be responsible for a future generation of men who do not have rotator cuff / shoulder problems which resulted from improper lifting during their teens and 20's.
Someone told me this 20 years ago. People still do it!!!! Unreal.
because this exercise gives you massive traps and shoulders
Lol, tell that to judo and wrestling guys...
@@Contagious93812 in the long run if you keep doi n this you might lose alot
@@S2Xbit I actually fixed a lot of trap and neck issues by doing upright rows. I use the cable, only come up to my sternum, and stay in high rep ranges. I have never had shoulder issues period. I'm in my 30's now and have done upright rows for over 15 years. Same thing when people say heavy weighted dips hurt their shoulders and elbows, I've never had issues with 4 plates weighted dips for reps. I watch these videos and experiment on my own. Another thing is you could do the dumbbell upright row which should give you more room.
Stopping right after this video
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He used to pump up with those
Khabib Nurmagomedov
@@asgharafghan5053 bro what does khabib have to do with this
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The upright wrongs are a terrible exercise anyway, anything that promotes internal rotation of the shoulder should be avoided.
nvmffs It's not just about rotating while performing the exercise, but keeping your shoulders in a internally rotated position while lift up is just not a good position for your shoulder no matter what. there doesn't necessarily have to be tension in terms of internally rotating for there to be harm, the position itself is bad. Pretend you're doing an Upright Row, then drop your shoulder while keeping the degree of shoulder rotation, you'll see your arm is obviously internally rotated at the end and basically through out the whole exercise.
Jeff said to use the dumbells instead. If you want to keep doing it with the barbell, go right ahead buddy, just don't complain when you get hurt and are out of the gym. Apparently you know more about the shoulders than a Physical Therapist.
nvmffs I will disagree, i dont care how wide your grip is, if the bar is heavy enough (like u said with the purpouse of overload) the weight is going to try to pull your shoulder down. I dont understand why you would take the risk when you can do exercises that are much safer and can make great results(db high pull, db side rise,or bb OHP).
By the way, the diamond push up isn't a bad exercise because you dont have that shoulder elevation.
I just started doing this yesterday it was my first time and it feels great and I don't feel any pain. Also I think it's making my arms look better. I started doing this because I saw the actor that plays superman do this exercise.
quagmire444 A dude who's shredded af at 40 and who's been a Physical Therapist for over 2 decades has no fucking clue what he's talking about? He's been studying for longer than people who are legally adults have been alive. Even then, it doesn't take a genius to know this exercise is terrible for everyone and anyone, it's basic anatomy. Also, yeah his exercises aren't traditional at all, but that's only because a lot of bodybuilding today is built off a very concrete base of broscience, not something to boast about now that we have a better understanding of things.
Thanks Jeff! I always view one or two of your videos before going to the gym!
Thomas Q yeah boiiiii
Crazy thing is I just got done doing these and I noticed slight strain in my shoulders. Once he broke down the science of the movement it all makes sense. Jeff strikes again
Most people don't really know how to perform a proper upright row, I've been doing them for years and I don't feel any pain, twinging or discomfort. When I started I did but overtime i perfected my technique. The demonstration in this video is actually wrong.
@@de-b1221 agree, even though I've never done this exercise
@@de-b1221 same... I've never felt any pains in my joints or anything which hurts but it also hits my traps pretty good
@@de-b1221 Bruh is there any way you can send a demonstration of the movement. Email maybe?
Lmao same
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Robert Steinberger
Elevation, internal rotation that a bad combination. Bars
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Guys get this comment likes. I want him to read this .
Jeff I am so confused by watching all your shoulder videos that I dont think any exercise will be good for my shoulders . Now i feel that even moving my shoulder in any direction while holding a weight makes me feel like Im injuring my self.
So please make the next video on what shoulder workout i should that dont wreck my shoulder. I saw your older shoulder workout video but you contradict yourself in that by doing exercises that you criticise later... So just clear it up once and for all.
Here you say moving your shoulder in front and lifting it causes injury.
Once you told us not to put our shulder behind our chest and lift bcz that causes injury. So what am i supposed to do?
You need to go back and watch his videos again, because the only contradiction is in your head. Overhead pressing behind the head causes injury. Where did he tell you to overhead press behind your back?
Vitamin B So we cant lift in back plane, middle plane or front plane, so are we supposed to levitate it cuz bitch i aint a wizard
It is possible to get away with behind the head press but like a good morning the form is really hard to master.
It's really not that tricky this video explains everything you need to understand. Just do landmine press and don't worry about it.
"No one knows how to do this exercise properly. They ain't called, Upwrong Rows." - Dom Mazzetti
I just watched this during my upright row workout with dumbbells and changed up my last 2 sets to the outward rotation as you showed. It was so much more comfortable and my should felt like it was working better overall.
Thanks for the video.
I've learnt something. I'm a little obsessed with building shoulders and traps and subsequently found myself doing upright rows a lot. I don't feel like doing them anymore after watching this video. A MASSIVE thank you to Jeff!
What did you substitute upright rows for?
@victorsirkoi3588 Hey there. I couldn't really find an exercise that quite hit the same way as upright rows, but I still let them go. I mostly did heavier shrugs with as slow a motion as possible, really focusing on the range of motion and the hold at the top, with a strong focus on the eccentric part of the lift. I also started implementing more T-bar rows at the time, focusing on proper form and range of motion. I hope this helps!
Jeff can you talk about cracking your joints and the possible effects. not knuckles but back, hips, neck, shoulders, elbows, wrists
Gus Bus yess
Gus Bus yes definitely
There have been many studies that show it has no affect on your bones or joints. But people continue to do it because it gives a sense of relief and mobility increase.
It's literally just gas bubbles popping out from between joints and sockets.
Gelynn Yes. You just described another method that makes the crack sound.
I'm 58 been doing these rows since I was ,19, never had any pain or problems and my traps are fire!!
Keep doing it
I've been doing upright rows for years and never hurt my shoulders. However, having studied osteopathy, I must admit your explanations make perfect sense Jeff, and you convinced me to stop doing these. Thanks for your insights and wisdom! I'd like to see more videos containing alternative exercises to replace all those bad ones we've been taught for years. Thank you.
There are no inherently bad exercises. His explanation is reductionist and fallible.
This workout NEVER felt right to me. Now I know exactly why, thanks Jeff!
just dont lift them heavy. The main reason it can hurt your shoulder is if you put too much weight. Just imagine trying to do hammer curls with extremely heavy weights. Your wrist would pop out.
@@deedee1533 Maybe just don't lift them period? As seen on video, there are plenty of alternatives out there...
@@deedee1533sorry, but this is bs. With the right preparation aka TRAINING any structure can be built up to withstand lots of weight without “popping out”
Thank you Jeff. I had horrible shoulder pain from doing this exercise 3 total times in my life. I switched to the external rotation version with dumbbells and my joints feel great. Thank you so much!
Thank you I appreciate this. I love how you break it down anatomically.
Sorry Jeff but the acromion bursa exists specifically to allow these movements to happen without causing injury in people with healthy shoulders. There are many other common movements done in other joints in equal tendon against bone conditions that nobody thinks anything of that are "fine". I've gone from extreme rotator cuff tendonitis and shoulder impingement to being able to do these without any problem whatsoever! Our body is designed to allow nearly every movement with resistance if properly trained and gradually adapted to, upright rows are no different. Also olympic weightlifters all around the world with perfect shoulder health are doing high pulls with heavy weights and equally aggrevating shoulder position without any problems! When this exercise causes a problem often its because people ALREADY have some degree of shoulder impingement and rotator cuff tendonitis and muscle imbalances that only rears their head when doing compromising movements like Upright Rows, like it was in my case.
Keep doing Upright Row, don't let anyone else stops you, even yourself
For all the people out there saying you have done them for years and never had any issues. Watch the video again and then look at all the comments of people saying how bad it feels for them. Some peoples body genetics allow for it, some dont. However the only way you’ll know is gambling and hoping you dont get an injury over time. Considering all the alternatives out there, it seems obvious its not worth it.
Man Arnold really had me enjoy my upright rows for a bit. Thanks for saving my shoulders tho Jeff I can always count on you for the truth !
more iron graveyard please
soon we'll be left with nothing. Almost Every exercise carries some hidden stabilisation, fraying, impinging, inflamation risks. Laying in bed ist the safest option.
This is bullshit I removed the bad elements from my workout after watching his many vids and all my pains and aches went away. Also better gains on all fronts and no I am not laying in bed right now.
This move has caused me a shoulder injury in the past, and now that shoulder always plays up and I have to be very careful with it. Good job for warning people away from it. It's simply not worth the risk.
Jeff, you are much in a class by yourself. I am 65 and self employed for 40 years. Love to see someone succeed through sheer excellence of their product or service. This video demonstrates why you are the best. You offer the most complete service in your field.
Please keep up this level. I know that it s not easy either!
Congrats, my friend.
I have been doing this exercise for some 40 years, off and on, with I admit more moderate weights, and have never had any issues. In fact I can easily lift my grandchildren without leaning forward, and I attribute this exercise as the one that enables that the most.
How to make sure your wrist/forearm don't get tired before your lats during pull exercices?
Great question ^^^
straps ;)
Stfu & Enjoy you could use wrist wraps like you would during a deadlift. I would recommend going as long as you can during your sets without them so that your grip does get stronger.
you're obviously not pulling heavy enough then. If you are, then just improve your grip strength.
straps.
Fearmongering
That's why you're afraid of the belt so bad, lil kid
I hate this exercise. So much shoulder pain from doing them. Can't even do them anymore
Jeff is the human cheat code
Jeff you have always emphasized the importance of recovery and 8hrs of sleep after a workout, maybe you can make a short 4min video on the proper resting position when resting and sleeping... Like what positions to avoid that impedes blood circulation or that's harming the joints when sleeping in the wrong form... Sure we have all heard from people that you should and not do this but it would be great to hear it from you an actual physical therapist and what are your thoughts for sure you have something to add...
Thanks for you videos Jeff...
I go wide, lean forward and hit my traps by pulling high on my chest. Makes my traps better.
Been doing this exercise for years no problems just gains
As a med school student, also interested in the anatomy and the range of motion of the shoulder, I gotta say Jeff is doing an amazing job explaining the motion and the issue with the joint. Awesome video, thank you very much for your work!!!
Nobody cares what you are. Iam an astronaut.
@@hellodolly6439I’m Mike Tyson bitch.
Wish i had Jeff and You tube 15 years ago when i started lifting and doing the exercises incorrectly and doing the wrong exercises. Thanks for all the great info Jeff!
Life saver this guy is
nah, this is clickbait. nothing wrong with upright rows.
@@JohnDoe-yq9rt people get impingement from it. Jeff explained it well.
@@nightuniverse8314 no
Jeff, I screwed up my right shoulder in that exact position you showed on the skeleton by doing upright rows about 40 years ago. Doing the movement with a sudden burning and stinging feeling and it has been a bitch to have to work around. I later had a PT tell me I should have never been doing that exercise. I told him I had broken my right collarbone in HS football and I told him I didn't think the collarbone had really seated itself right. He then said I also needed to stay away from pushups. Now at 73 still going to the gym with work arounds. I have to for posture and flexibility. Thanks for giving the information to a bigger platform.💪
Jeff, could you make videos on
- behind the neck pull ups
- Leg extensions
- Leg curls
- Leg press
and what you think about them please. I know you have covered them before, but a new, good video with an in depth explanation would be great!
PS: A sore in six minutes: Calves video would also be fantastic!
My football coaches always have us doing this in the weight room however every time I did it, it just didn’t feel right. And overtime the more we did it the more pain I felt in my shoulders. After discovering this video I will refuse to do this dumb ass exercise. I always insisted that this exercise wasn’t right and this video confirms it.
I know what u mean. My football coaches always be making us do behind the neck press. Fortunately i saw an iron graveyard video before doing the lifting program.
@@slatermauro2092 A lot of old school coaches out there. Please express your concern with the lift, then forward the appropriate video. Educate instead of just telling them you don't want to do it because it's dangerous for your joints.
Did you say it to your coach or showed him this video?
@@slatermauro2092 Stop doing that press exercise! Press in front of your neck, Grape! I got injured a long time ago from this exercise performing the press behind the neck! My right shoulder is never going to function the same; I have to contract my arm for the slight dislocation not to happen. I've been to several doctors, most cannot do anything about it, could be subluxation says one doctor; I slightly injured my LEFT shoulder too from doing that torture rack exercise of UPRIGHT ROW! You are very fortunate that you stopped performing these dangerous exercises.
@@georgeanastasopoulos5865 i dont. I just let coach know that it irritates my shoulders. Man, that sucks. Are you still able to do any pressing movements?
Jeff i hope you read this. Thank you for the best physical body i can have. Thank you for letting the public know what works. I am a former Marine and in my mid 30s in by far in the best shape of my life thanks to you. You are the HERO of people who are fed up with bs workouts!
This exercise made me cry, this is really the worst exercise in the world. My bones were striking like crazy.
Imagine never combining internal rotation and elevation. Oh wait, I do that every time I pick up anything heavy that’s wider then me in real life.
It’s almost like our muscles exist for practical reasons
If it's wider than you and you pick it up like hugging it (like Hammer Curl), which is not internal rotation.
Ain't nobody picks things up like doing upright row, they always have theirs arms like doing Curl with Shoulder Flexion.
Imagine picking "anything heavy" using upright row instead of deadlift or hammer curl.
This is what happens when you tryna sound smarter than you are.
This video saved me from so much trouble. Thank s Jeff for educating us on serious matters like impingement, there s so much bs content out there that could lead any lifter to this sort of problems. Your channel is a life saver on stuff like this.
Well the scientific consensus is that “impingement” as it used to be taught doesn’t exist, so his explanation is built on a myth, hence it’s just plain wrong and nocebo inducing
I did a program that recommended this a few days ago I did a couple reps and decided not to do it, seeing thing I'm glad I didn't follow through Jeff out here saving lives my dude
By far the best trainer on TH-cam
"...our skeleton here." He has a name! His name is RAYMOND! SAY MY NAME!!! He figured out his mistake by the end, though. Dodged a bullet, Jeff!
Upright row is a silly exercise - Dorian Yates
that says it all
he also stated that decline works the whole pec.. He had it right there as well
Vivat Yates !
I love the upright row for traps. You have to do it right just like any other exercise. I use an easy curl bar. Nothing makes my traps grow like upright rows but everyone is different
Just waiting for the Jeff Nippard video commentors
Wow, I had pain over time from this movement and now I know why! Thanks for the info Jeff
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eddy wally wally Hahahaha.
Douglas MH il it work for him. Who cares lol
Douglas MH even Arnold said even if you are doing it to get women and it motivates you then do it as long as it works for you so fuck off
Kfc Gang That's right brotha.
The dumbell high pull is an awesome replacement. It also allows you to continue the exerccise through the burn for a lot longer cause there are no other discomforts to deter you.
Following a new programme hadn’t done upright rows in years, after the session yesterday I have killer pain in my right frontal shoulder so I’m happy I looked this up and realised the strain I was putting it under and caught it early! Thanks for the vid
I hurt my shoulder when doing this and always thought it was a great shoulder excercise.. now i know the reason why i hurt it.. could you please show me another way to build shoulder muscle?
"Elevation with internal rotation is a bad combination" - Mc Jeff C
Wanted to do this last night. Felt wrong after 3 reps.
Fucked it off and return to dumbbell high pull like Jeff mentioned. Thank you!
The problem with this exercise is exactly what Jeff is doing, keeping the hands to close together.
Further apart, straight bar and lift with the shoulders, not with the forearm and not to the chin. Fantastic, works for me and Im doing bodybuilding and strongman. Love it. Doing it for years, no pain.
I’ve no bias. Jeff:DO THE GODAMN FACE PULLSS
Yup did two sets and said fuck that, shoulders started clicking 👎🏼
This exercise feels amazing and pumps my traps up. Doesn't hurt in any way. I have flexible shoulders and wrists though
Having a strong foundational knowledge of anatomy and body mechanics > your opinion because you've been doing an exercise and it hasn't injured you yet.
@@nomnomyourmom Ok
@@nomnomyourmom Ironic comment
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@@drno62another twig linking a video but only reading the title without knowing what it's about
WHOs back from jeff nippards video🤔
Me lol 😂😂😂
Me
Bro I saw a comment on his video that said “waiting for Jeff calvalier to stop the video”
Bernard
Jeff nippard’s video is actually correct only if u follow his steps. Upright row isn’t a ‘harmful exercise’ only if u do it correctly
Jeff ive been doing upright rows for 7 years and still have not died, what am i doing wrong?
Your gains kinda died cuz you killed them
I bet you guys didn't know that he writes a fucking essay in the description.
this is the best channel for work out information, Jeff not only discusses the exercises but explains why they do or dont work. excellent educational channel
Just use a wider grip to release tension on the shoulder joint and align elbows at shoulder length.
The problem ain't the grip width or how hight you lift your elbows (1:18), the problem is your wrists are lower than the elbows which is internal rotation, did you not watch the vid?
I've learned the hard way that this exercise is no good. I've hurt my shoulder multiple times doing this exercise and have since eliminated it from my training. Thanks for all your great work Jeff.
We need a Jeff versus Jeff face to face up right row debate video
The best guy on youtube for gains and good form.
Listen to him.
He knows exactly what he's talking about
My left shoulder started having some pain after doing upright rows for a while. Glad I saw this video. Still going to have MRI taken probably though
just performed this exercise last night and it hurt in the shoulder joint itself. I'm not gonna do it again
Thank you for sharing this. Everything I was feeling about this makes sense now that you're demonstrating all this. Great explanation!!!
It's because of videos like these that I completely stopped using the upright row in my routine. I already have a bad left shoulder. I don't need to destroy it anymore. If the alternative is going to protect my shoulders and help me make gains then that is what I will do. Thanks Jeff!
I have done these for years and have had shoulder and scapular impingment issues so bad that. My 462 lb flat bench press has went down to 275 with my right chest muscle not being able to fully squeeze on the lower half. This is great info jeff and thanks for getting this out there. I sure wish i would have understood these movements in my younger years of weight training. Your knowledge is irreplaceable. Thank you
I would never step into his gym when its dark
I was literally doing this exercise this evening and felt some pain. I thought if I should go this or not, later I find this video wow. Jeff has every content.
When I was younger, I did these all the time. While working out with my son I did the upright row and destroyed my shoulders...never again. Took two years to rehab and begin working out again.
I pulled my neck / shoulder area a couple times and I realized it was correlated to increasing the weight doing this exercise. I have now cut it out completely - no more strains. Great recommendation.
15 people dont understand the science of their joints
Yes the upright rows feel awkward and don't do much in terms of muscle growth. Unnatural shoulder rotation. Great advice.
I'm 69 been using the easy bar for light weight upright rowing since a kid, so far no problems. Got my first weights from Ben and Joe Weider in Montréal and their trainer Jimmy Caruso went to school with my father. He gave me good advice years ago. My problem is I want to train for pulling my crossbow which is an upright rowing motion. I'll stick to my rowing machine and front/side lifts from now on.
Jeff, but I see in olympic weightlifting they do the clean and jerk, they always lifting heavy weights uppright from knee hight pulling up overhead???
my wrist got fucked because of this exercise
Ah man! I've been doing this exercise a lot lately. Going to stop now after this video. Thanks for saving my shoulders
I got a elbow pain doing this, yep. So I stopped the shoulder uprights.
Thanks for this video mate. I love your videos because you don't limit yourself saying it's wrong but you also expand on why in a great way! Keep it up!!
I used to do upright rows all the time when I work out, now my left shoulder is suffering 🤕😩
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*try
Empty soul *tried
Shit i almost forgot, cheers
Im sick today, but I will tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder
Nathan Raether yes I was wake up this and you know I'm going to try to kill myselftoday.
I'm 56 and life long natural. Been doing upright rows since I saw Lou Ferrigno warming up for the 76 Olympia in Pumping Iron. My traps are jacked. Always have been. So by Jeff's calculation with the "rope getting frayed over years and years" I should have intense shoulder pain and no shoulder mobility smfh. Try heavy bench then bent rows then upright rows then behind the neck presses. You'll feel huge and full. Not hurt and weak.
Bad pains in my left shoulder and I wasnt sure why. After watching your vid I dropped the upright row and now a month later the pain in my left shoulder has improved greatly and I have made gains in my other shoulder exercises. Just want to pass on my thanks for your advice. I was beginning to think that I would have to stop exercising shoulders completely. Keep up the vids and passing on those pearls of wisdom. Great Stuff thanks.