Hi Matt - only 7 years late! - just tried this and following your instructions it was so easy. I used a marble pastry board - about 1/2" thick I guess and it worked perfectly to shape the sticks. Made a few different diameters as suggested. Thanks for these videos, so much appreciated!
I just made my first few shellac sticks and learned a ton about the physical properties of the material that I don’t think I would have learned otherwise. This seems really important to do early on.
Absolute legend. Ex sax player, now hobbyist jeweler with a tone of shellac flakes and zero idea how to get them onto my chains for filing! I made a mess. So much mess. This is a life saver.
Hi Matt. I made some sticks using your method. The exception was that I used a marble tile that I purchased from my local home center. It worked great. Thanks for all the great info.
I haven’t even watched your video, but 👍🏻 up because not even knowing of this tech I was planning on trying this to get away from using contact cement and hot glue... I use real shellac for finish repairs but have found myself accepting more and more repairs for B&O instruments...nice video, I don’t have to wonder if I was gonna waist a bunch of my vintage amber! Lol
Why dewaxed? What is the difference in this use case? What does the low temperature for plasticity mean for using the horn? Could I get the horn warm enough when playing outside on a hot day that pads in, say, the plam key area start to move? What's pros and cons of shellac vs those hot glue beads that, I presume, get soft at a higher temperature?
dewaxed because that is what instrument repair shellac is made of. you can try waxed and tell me why. low temp means you won't burn lacquer heating it. not warm enough when playing, but leaving horns in a car on a hot summer day is a bad idea regardless of your pad adhesive choice. glues have varying melt temps.
Granite doesn't hold heat very well... It will flake off and hit you in the face and put your eye out... You can actually use that little torch you have right there to make thermal flame Granite face... Or that texture you find on granite on steps... That's called thermal flame finish and you used a regular handheld torch to repair the large pieces or make additional pieces... So you do not want to use Granite when you're using Flame... marble cools at a faster pace... And it holds heat transfer better... For safety sake I would get a piece of marble to do this on
Hi , Did you know the technique of dissolving the shellac in a small pot with alcohol on kitchen , then applies to the pad and the cup? Specially for clarinets? Thanks!
I was taught this as Sax Machine in Paris but I have not integrated it into my repair style. Super cool how it works though, and definitely a traditional skill I would like to hone at some point.
it's one of these ancient (traditional would be an understatement) materials, that have just stood the test of time. similiar to hide glue or pitch. think of it as a brand of all natural hot glue, that stuck around for the last 3000 years. all 3 have in common, that they remain "temporary" for decades, if not centuries.
the melt temp is different, the plastic state is different, the hardened state is different. whether or not you like to work with it better is a matter of personal taste.
Hi Matt - only 7 years late! - just tried this and following your instructions it was so easy. I used a marble pastry board - about 1/2" thick I guess and it worked perfectly to shape the sticks. Made a few different diameters as suggested. Thanks for these videos, so much appreciated!
So informative. Been playing for 60yrs. College trained. Now time to finally maintain and repair mine.
I just made my first few shellac sticks and learned a ton about the physical properties of the material that I don’t think I would have learned otherwise. This seems really important to do early on.
Absolute legend. Ex sax player, now hobbyist jeweler with a tone of shellac flakes and zero idea how to get them onto my chains for filing! I made a mess. So much mess. This is a life saver.
Could you make these faster in the oven and then use a hot knife to cut the sticks to your likable size?
Hi Matt. I made some sticks using your method. The exception was that I used a marble tile that I purchased from my local home center. It worked great. Thanks for all the great info.
Pode me ensinar como fazer?
I really wasn't looking for this. I use and have a lot of shellac for my wood finishes, I really need shellac sticks , so thanks a bunch.
Wondering what difference it makes if you use waxed vs de waxed?
Thanks
Bom dia amigo, você descobriu a diferença?
denatured alcohol in a large straw?
would a heat gun not work without burning the flakes?
I haven’t even watched your video, but 👍🏻 up because not even knowing of this tech I was planning on trying this to get away from using contact cement and hot glue... I use real shellac for finish repairs but have found myself accepting more and more repairs for B&O instruments...nice video, I don’t have to wonder if I was gonna waist a bunch of my vintage amber! Lol
Thank you
Why dewaxed? What is the difference in this use case?
What does the low temperature for plasticity mean for using the horn? Could I get the horn warm enough when playing outside on a hot day that pads in, say, the plam key area start to move?
What's pros and cons of shellac vs those hot glue beads that, I presume, get soft at a higher temperature?
dewaxed because that is what instrument repair shellac is made of. you can try waxed and tell me why. low temp means you won't burn lacquer heating it. not warm enough when playing, but leaving horns in a car on a hot summer day is a bad idea regardless of your pad adhesive choice.
glues have varying melt temps.
@@StohrerMusic Thank you for your quick answer to my question below such an old video. I must say, I didn't expect that. Hats off.
is it possible to use older shellac music recording discs to produce a shellac stick for repadding or is that a different type of shellac?
i wonder how well a silicone baking sheet would work for this? Maybe not so great with the direct torch.
This project is killing! Great Work.
If you tilted the tray, would the side of your tray not naturally shape the stick straight for you as it melts towards one side.
Hi, please can you tell me what kind of shellac do you use¿ orange or dry shellac ¿ or others¿ thanks
amazing ! thanks
Matt, what color is the flake shellac in the video?
Granite doesn't hold heat very well... It will flake off and hit you in the face and put your eye out... You can actually use that little torch you have right there to make thermal flame Granite face... Or that texture you find on granite on steps... That's called thermal flame finish and you used a regular handheld torch to repair the large pieces or make additional pieces... So you do not want to use Granite when you're using Flame... marble cools at a faster pace... And it holds heat transfer better... For safety sake I would get a piece of marble to do this on
Hi , Did you know the technique of dissolving the shellac in a small pot with alcohol on kitchen , then applies to the pad and the cup? Specially for clarinets? Thanks!
I was taught this as Sax Machine in Paris but I have not integrated it into my repair style. Super cool how it works though, and definitely a traditional skill I would like to hone at some point.
Awesome video! I was wondering what kind of blow torch you use or would recommend without spending too much money.
cheap ones aren't worth the money. blazer es-1000 is the one to get.
A lot of help, ive used the sticks ive made many times now, much chesper than storebought
Great vid, thanks for sharing.
Nice tip at the end...
Matt. There are many de-waxed options. Are you using blonde, super blonde, garnet etc….
Really interesting!
Hi Matt, where do you get your pads? And would you happen to know the pad sizes for a Martin Handcraft Low Pitch Standard Alto? Thanks.
I've been using glue sticks to change my own pads everytime I find one odd worn pad. my question is what are the benefits to using shellac?....
it's one of these ancient (traditional would be an understatement) materials, that have just stood the test of time. similiar to hide glue or pitch. think of it as a brand of all natural hot glue, that stuck around for the last 3000 years. all 3 have in common, that they remain "temporary" for decades, if not centuries.
the melt temp is different, the plastic state is different, the hardened state is different. whether or not you like to work with it better is a matter of personal taste.
Looks like a Tootsie Roll
Looks like a slim jim hahahaha
bug excretion taffy! :D
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