Honestly this is probably the best unboxing video I’ve ever watched. Very thorough explanations of all of the things that matter. I subscribed at the end. Thank you
Both my DeWalt DWP611 trim router and my Harbor Freight router use 1/4" shank bits....I'm glad you explained everything is this model Porter Cable jig, since I couldn't find any info on the bits sizes, other than the 1/2" shanks. Now I can use my trim router and see a/b getting a PC4216 jig. thanks for the demonstration~
Thank you Patrick. I have a few more videos on this jig you may find helpful. Check out the Playlist for all of them. The through dovetail video may be the best.
so many will tell you this jig or this tool is "perfect" even if its not. Thanks for your honest and insightful review. It will make my life with my new jig less stressful and more effective.
Thank you Tracy, this was an excellent video. I just purchased the Porter Cable 4212 jig. Very valuable video, I have worked with wood for a long long time but never made a dovetail joint. Reading the manual that came with the jig helped a bit, but your video clarified and explained so very well. Some woodworkers will be surprised that they need a router with 1/2" collet. Luckily I have the right router with 1/2" capability.
Thank you Bill. I am glad the video was helpful. I have had a lot of positive comments on this video and I sincerely appreciate each one of them. Thanks for watching
Thanks, Tracy. I just bought this jig and yours is the best video I’ve watched. I appreciate all of your advice, particularly since you showed the hidden dovetail.
Thanks Tracy, I stopped midway through to change the batteries on my smoke detectors, But found that not to be necessary on my end . Great channel with honest product rexview.
This is the best, most indepth review of the porter cable jig I have seen. Even threw in some tips that helped me when using mine. Awesome job sir. get more tools and start reviewing the hell out of them!! great job!
I completely agree with wdc72. Excellent walkthrough on this product, which I'll have in hand in a few days. Very helpful. Thank you for doing this sir.
Thanks David. I have more videos also on this jig. Through Dovetails is a complete walk through of setting up and making through dovetails. I also have one for making sliding Dovetails. Hope you find them helpful. I get a LOT of positive feedback on the others also. Especially the Through Dovetails video
Thanks. I have a few more videos on my channel for this jig. Through dovetails and sliding or stopped dovetails. You should check them out. I have a Playlist also for all of them using this jig. Thanks for stopping by my channel and don't forget to subscribe
Great video review Tracy. I received my 4216 today and am anxious to try it out. Thanks to your helpful review and tips, I’m sure to enjoy the experience. During the video, I had my wife going from appliance to appliance checking all the doors. Then muted the TV (2020 Election coverage on CNN) but that was not the source of the beeps either. LOL Keep reviewing and sharing my friend.
I am glad the video was helpful. I hope you enjoy the jig. Sorry about the beeping. That was my garage door opener. The backup battery had died. I heard the noise so much I did not pay any attention to it. Lol
Thanks. Haters gonna hate lol dont bother me none. I dont post for popularity anyway. I just share what I think will help someone else. Glad you liked it and thanks for watching
@identitywithheld1027 thank you. I have a complete playlist for this jig if you are interested. Through dovetails, halfblinds, box joints and sliding dovetails
I saw this but it wasn't under my subscriptions. I've been missing your videos. Hope you get back to it soon. You teach me so much and I am looking forward to one day having my own work shop.
Thanks wayne. I am getting close to being back up. I will be putting video out soon of the new shop. I have the power hooked up now and the lights on. All that's left is my dust collection system. Got the hvac installed just a few days ago. As soon as I get time to get in the shop for a few minutes I'm going to do a shop update video.
Great video... very easy to understand. I have this same jig and everything you say is right on the money. There is a learning curve, no doubt about it. It will take some practice to get your dovetails perfect. I will say that the stop on the side that is supposed to be used to set the depth of the router bit isn't always accurate. You may find that you'll have to reset it quite often for some reason. Keep lots of scrap wood that is cut to the exact same size as the pieces you're gonna use and make sure they fit perfectly before cutting your final project and you can't go wrong.
I enjoyed your video. My wife gave me the jig several years ago for Christmas. I finally got around to using it after watching your video. I to milled my wood down to 1/2 inch and used the small half dovetail template. A couple comments: To solve the problem with the brass bushing moving... I put a nut behind it to lock it in place (worked well). I did have a problem with the guide bushing loosening up. My solution was to put LockTite on the threads (I almost never got it off my router base.) I wouldn't mind someone's suggestion for a better solution.
Whoever gives this guy a thumbs-down it's got to be a closet accountant that doesn't know what end of a screwdriver to use. pay no attention to a guy that doesn't know what end of a screwdriver to use. dude 😎 you're doing good
Great Video! My mini 7 degree 9/32 router bit which came with the Porter Cable jig needs replacing. Do you know where we can find a router bit to replace?
Thank you Tracy, I just purchased this jig and your video is very helpful prior to me even opening the box. I will check out more of your videos especially since you fixed the intermittent beeping in the background LOL.
Great video Tracy, thank you! I have a question. Each of the templates comes equipped with a depth gauge to adjust your router bit to the proper length. But there is also a depth gauge mounted to the left side of the jig itself. I believe it’s called the tails/box bit depth gauge (Page 13 K2 in the manual). I can see on page 23 of the manual where they ask you to use that depth gauge, but I don’t see anywhere in the manual where it tells you how to set up the tails/box bit depth gauge. Does anyone know if this tails/box depth gauge gets set to 3/8” just like the depth gauges on each template, or is there a different adjustment for the tails/box depth gauge?
The router bit needs to be set to the thickness of the material you are working with. If you adjust the depth guage stop to that thickness you should be fine. You can do this by placing a piece of scrap material the same thickness as your work piece and adjusting the stop so the piece will fit between the stop and the template. Hope that makes sense
Thanks for the wonderful post was really interested in this because I wanted to make box joints finger joints for plywood boxes. Thanks for the wonderful post answered all my questions
Thanks Tracy. My jig should be with me in time for the Christmas holiday over here in the UK. I'll use your video for reference. happy Christmas to you and your family my friend.
@ezrabrooks12 thank you. I have a Playlist on my channel also which covers different techniques of joinery with this jig. Through dovetails, halfblinds, box joints, etc you might be interested in
good video. im about to buy this jig. im wondering why you used a plunge base and not a fixed base. i suppose it doesnt matter but im thinking depth setting would be a bit easier. i have the plunge and fixed base combo dewalt router and i will find out when my jig arrives.
Thank you. I use the plunge base for two reasons. 1. To me it's easy enough to just plunge down to the stop and lock the router down. Takes just a second. 2. My fixed base is mounted in my router cabinet and it's a lot of trouble taking it out. But you can use either
You might be able to keep those brass rings from spinning by backing a bolt onto them from behind and locking them into position. But your idea of turning the black knobs out far enough to remove the template is a good idea. Great video; thanks for posting. My jig is on the way; your video gave me great insight.
Thank you. I am actually in the process of a new video doing through dovetails with this jig. It has more details and focuses on the setup of the jig. Watch for it to post. I'm hoping to have it out some time tomorrow
Thanks Tracy!!! This was the video that cleared up so much for me. As a complete rookie I looked at all the TH-cam videos, manual and the odd wood working expert on starting on this new adventure. I purchased the 4212, not knowing that I was limited to the 1/2" bits and couldn't cut the 1/4" dovetails as there's no jig in the 4212. I can order the Porter Cable mini dovetail jig on line and I purchased a 1/4" template guide for my router. Only issue is the material guides for the mini dovetail clamps are not available, at least not here in Canada. I've exhausted all the tips from dealers on how to get my hands on the 1/4 material bracket... any suggestions? Also curious if you know the answer to this: I have a 2.25 HP Bosch 1617E router and I have to by an adapter for the router guides to fit on the routers base. Question is will it be automatically centered or is there yet another piece of hardware to ensure this? Cheers and thanks again for your great video!!!
Answered my own question. When you order the mini dovetail jig it comes with the material brackets and 1/4 router guide. I just saw the picture of the guide as they didn't show the other parts. Now I can proceed like I had purchased the 4216 kit.
Thank you and I am glad you enjoyed the video and that it was useful for you i can not answer your question in reference to your jig because I am not familiar with that jig. I apologize for that. I have a couple more videos on my channel for using the 4216. As far as centering. I am assuming you are referring to centering the guide bushing on the bit. You can purchase a centering guide OR you can also take a Phillips screw driver and a 1/4 inch guide bushing. Losen all the screws in the router base plate slightly. Enough for the base plate to move. Then install the 1/4 guide bushing in the base plate. Place the Phillips screw driver through the guide bushing and tighten the collet up on the screw driver and then tighten the base plate back up on the router. This will center your base plate on the collet. Note the screw drive will need to have a 1/4 shift or one that fits snug in the guide bushing. Hope this helps. Also search my channel for "through dovetails " and I have another video on "sliding and stopped dovetails ". I hope this helps
They have a supplemental manual that suggests an alternate method of setting the depth. Line up a board the same thickness as the mating piece and use it to draw a line on the face of the board. The same doc has a solution for for the brass nuts, you can put another nut behind the brass nut to lock it in place.
Yes it is. As long as the boards are not wider than the jig. Just line them up like you would a wider panel. Of course you would have to stop for each board if you are making stopped dovetails
This is something for potential purchasers of this jig to bear in mind, is to ensure (unlike mine) that your router can accept screw on the template guide attachments as my bosch 1200 router has a sds guide coupling system and wont take the guides with out an adaptor which i am now having to try to source from bosch. i got all set up with the jig only to find this out ,learning woodworking you learn from expensive mistakes at times :-)
Every review i watch on the porter cable dovetail jig does not say anything about the large offset guides that come with the 4216. What are they used for? Could you explain a little bit more of what they are used for?
With this jig you should have 2 different sets of offsets. One is 1/4 and the other is 1/2 inch. If you are using the 1/2 bit set you will use the 1/2 off sets. Your board that slides up from the bottom (vertical) on the front of the jig will slide over against the off set. You will slide the top board (horizontal) over against the offset. This will offset your tails and pins the correct distance from each other. That way your boards will line up across the top and bottom when the joint is put together.
Thank you excellent explanation on everything. Even I understood most everything you showed how it actually works. I think you just sold one of these for Porter Cable. Do you know if this the same jig Rockler sells with their name on it? Looking to a Black Friday Deal. :)
Thank you. I should get a commission from Porter Cable lol but I dont. I think Rockler sells their own dovetail jig and they also sell the Porter Cable dovetail jig but I dont know how similar they are
The bit plunges thru the guide bushing? How many bushings and bits do you use when doing dovetails? The bit is set on the outside of the collar on the guide....
When making half blind dovetails you will only use the dovetail bit. Either the half inch or the quarter inch. When making through dovetails you will use a dovetail bit and a pattern bit. And yes you will plunge the bit or bits through the guide bushings. You should have 2 half inch guide bushings and 2 quarter inch guide bushings. The guide bushing with the largest hole is for your half inch dovetail bit. The other half inch bushing is for the half inch pattern bit. Same principals for the quarter inch dovetail and pattern bit. I hope this helps
To solve the problem with the brass nuts from moving perhaps you could wrap some Teflon tape around the threads to tighten them up or more extreme would be to drill and tap them for a small set screw with a nylon tip so you don't damage the threads. Good video though. You covered the good and the bad about the jig.
so I got my 4216 today and set it up. but when I cut a test for half blinds dovetails, they did not align up properly and while they were off a little to one side, the dovetail were too tight side to side. I am watching your video again to see what I did wrong. I did just order the router plate centering tool as I think that may be the problem, although I just got the router (Dewalt 618) as my other router (dewalt 611) won't hold a 1/2 inch bit and I wanted to use the 1/2 bit for this and other projects (I also have a 1/2 shank bowl bit.
It is one of those jigs which the stars all have to align. If your bottom plate is not centered your joints will not be right. When I made my first I had to cut multiple practice pieces. I would cut and when they didnt fit I would cut those tails off with the miter saw and readjust and do them again. When you are in line it make beautiful joints
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 thanks. That's what I am doing. while I am using the offset, after I cut the drawer tops don't line up so the offset isn't right. I luckily have lots of boards I can practice with like you suggested. I need to get a drawer down this weekend though so I will be messing with this tomorrow after work.
I subscribed to your channel. Like your videos. I woke my wife up last night laughing when you made the router table and drilled your resets all the way thru lol. But good stuff!
Hi Tracy, thanks for your great video. I have a question: The specs on the material thickness, as shown in the manual, state from 1/4” to 1 1/8”. What would be the result if I used material that is 1 1/4” thick? That thickness fits between the clamp bars and the body of the jig (just barely but it fits). I am planning on making half blind dovetails. Will I have a problem? Do you recommend that I reduce the thickness to the 1 1/8” maximum as shown in the manual?
I have never dovetailed material that thick before. Just thinking about it I would assume the size dovetail the provided bits make are not capable of holding material that size. I would probably cut those by hand. You could take some scrap material that desired thickness and just make one to test the strength.
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 Thanks Tracy. I was thinking the same thing. I’m going to try making the dovetail joint on one end of the material using the 1 1/4” thickness and see how the joint holds. If it doesn’t seem strong enough, I’ll mill the material down to 1 1/8” and go with that thickness. Will let you know how it comes out.
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 Hi again Tracy. I ended up milling the materisl down ti 1.125" thick and it worked just fine. Will send you a pic of the table before finishing.
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good video but, Porter Cable should have left the older heavier ones in production, they were made so much better (cast and machining) and if they had some of the newer features this on has such as the lines in the template and the depth scale it would have been that much better. Like usual someone said lets get them made cheaper so we can make more money
I really appreciate the video, as I am looking to buy this jig, but please please shut off that smoke detector or whatever is making the beeping noise. It is very distracting.
I have not used Rocklers dovetail jig so I cant really say which I think would be best. I do know the quality dovetails the Porter cable jig produces. You will just have to weigh the differences between the two brands of what you want. With porter cable I get 3 templates, bits and guide bushings but no dust collection. So for me I dont cut dovetails every day but when I do I have more options of what I can cut. But if collecting the dust is more important I would go with Rockler. Or maybe try to make something that will collect the dust on the Porter cable jig. Might be something I may try to make in the future. Because it is a mess maker. But no more than I use it to cut dovetails, for me, I'll just wear a mask. Great question. Made me think on that one lol. Thanks for watching
Don’t buy it, I have a porter cable 77240 . Porter cable is going out of business and not supporting it products after DEWALT Stanley bought them. They are royobi quality now.
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Honestly this is probably the best unboxing video I’ve ever watched. Very thorough explanations of all of the things that matter. I subscribed at the end. Thank you
Thank you very much. I have had several positive comments on it. I was worried it was too long. Thank you for subscribing as well
Both my DeWalt DWP611 trim router and my Harbor Freight router use 1/4" shank bits....I'm glad you explained everything is this model Porter Cable jig, since I couldn't find any info on the bits sizes, other than the 1/2" shanks. Now I can use my trim router and see a/b getting a PC4216 jig. thanks for the demonstration~
You are welcome. Glad it was helpful. I have a Playlist for this jig. You should check it out
Great job Tracy! Appreciate the through review! I'll be setting up my 4216 tomorrow and think your tips will be very useful.
Thank you Patrick. I have a few more videos on this jig you may find helpful. Check out the Playlist for all of them. The through dovetail video may be the best.
so many will tell you this jig or this tool is "perfect" even if its not. Thanks for your honest and insightful review. It will make my life with my new jig less stressful and more effective.
Thank you. I have a couple more videos on this jig that you may like.
Great vidro. Just an idea. How abouut putting a nut behind the brass bushings to lock them in place?
Thank you. Yes. That would work. That's a good idea. Thanks
Thank you Tracy, this was an excellent video. I just purchased the Porter Cable 4212 jig. Very valuable video, I have worked with wood for a long long time but never made a dovetail joint. Reading the manual that came with the jig helped a bit, but your video clarified and explained so very well. Some woodworkers will be surprised that they need a router with 1/2" collet. Luckily I have the right router with 1/2" capability.
Thank you Bill. I am glad the video was helpful. I have had a lot of positive comments on this video and I sincerely appreciate each one of them. Thanks for watching
Thanks, Tracy. I just bought this jig and yours is the best video I’ve watched. I appreciate all of your advice, particularly since you showed the hidden dovetail.
Thank you sir. I'm glad it was helpful
Thanks Tracy,
I stopped midway through to change the batteries on my smoke detectors,
But found that not to be necessary on my end .
Great channel with honest product rexview.
Thanks for watching. That noise was my garage door opener. Backup battery was dead
It kept me on my toes !
Thanks for your channel.
You picked up another few subs today!
This is the best, most indepth review of the porter cable jig I have seen. Even threw in some tips that helped me when using mine. Awesome job sir. get more tools and start reviewing the hell out of them!! great job!
Thank you for those kind words sir
Brother you are fantastico..... no one has explain in detail the stuff you talk about. Dang I can't wait to play with my dovetail giiiiigy... OORAH!!
Thank you. I have a whole Playlist of videos on the 4216. You should check them out. I think you will really like those
I completely agree with wdc72. Excellent walkthrough on this product, which I'll have in hand in a few days. Very helpful. Thank you for doing this sir.
Thanks David. I have more videos also on this jig. Through Dovetails is a complete walk through of setting up and making through dovetails. I also have one for making sliding Dovetails. Hope you find them helpful. I get a LOT of positive feedback on the others also. Especially the Through Dovetails video
I just got mine delivered and I cant Thank You enough for this here video.
Thank you for watching and stopping by the channel
Nice job Tracy! Very well laid out information. Much appreciated!
Thank you
Thanks for sharing. Just unboxed my new jig so the information you have shared is very helpful. Cheers.
Thank you. Glad I could help
Well done. I will pick on up at my home store. Thanks Tracy.
Thank you. Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching
Sweet video ty Man. just got mine yesterday. Can't wait to tinker lol!! TY!!
Thanks. I have a few more videos on my channel for this jig. Through dovetails and sliding or stopped dovetails. You should check them out. I have a Playlist also for all of them using this jig. Thanks for stopping by my channel and don't forget to subscribe
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 Way ahead of ya CLICK lol TY!!
GREAT job of explaining the jig!! Thank you for an excellent video!
Thank you for watching.
Great video review Tracy. I received my 4216 today and am anxious to try it out. Thanks to your helpful review and tips, I’m sure to enjoy the experience. During the video, I had my wife going from appliance to appliance checking all the doors. Then muted the TV (2020 Election coverage on CNN) but that was not the source of the beeps either. LOL Keep reviewing and sharing my friend.
I am glad the video was helpful. I hope you enjoy the jig. Sorry about the beeping. That was my garage door opener. The backup battery had died. I heard the noise so much I did not pay any attention to it. Lol
Who "thumbs down" this? Do people have to just hate anything? ugh Great review!
Thanks. Haters gonna hate lol dont bother me none. I dont post for popularity anyway. I just share what I think will help someone else. Glad you liked it and thanks for watching
Ha. If I got a dollar for each of my thumbs down I could afford this jig and the router too. It's part of youtubing, and does not harm your rating
Got mine coming tomorrow thanks for your video!!! Now I know what to pay attention off the bat!!! Cheers!
Very good explanation. Thank you!
@identitywithheld1027 thank you. I have a complete playlist for this jig if you are interested. Through dovetails, halfblinds, box joints and sliding dovetails
I am trying to figure out mine here in Chile. I bought mine in South Carolina and am just now setting it up. Thanks for the video. Jim in Chile.
Thank you for watching. You will like it once you dial it in. It's a great jig. Take your time and be patient
I saw this but it wasn't under my subscriptions. I've been missing your videos. Hope you get back to it soon. You teach me so much and I am looking forward to one day having my own work shop.
Thanks wayne. I am getting close to being back up. I will be putting video out soon of the new shop. I have the power hooked up now and the lights on. All that's left is my dust collection system. Got the hvac installed just a few days ago. As soon as I get time to get in the shop for a few minutes I'm going to do a shop update video.
Great video... very easy to understand.
I have this same jig and everything you say is right on the money. There is a learning curve, no doubt about it. It will take some practice to get your dovetails perfect.
I will say that the stop on the side that is supposed to be used to set the depth of the router bit isn't always accurate. You may find that you'll have to reset it quite often for some reason.
Keep lots of scrap wood that is cut to the exact same size as the pieces you're gonna use and make sure they fit perfectly before cutting your final project and you can't go wrong.
Thank you. Also check out my other videos on this jig also
I enjoyed your video. My wife gave me the jig several years ago for Christmas. I finally got around to using it after watching your video. I to milled my wood down to 1/2 inch and used the small half dovetail template.
A couple comments:
To solve the problem with the brass bushing moving...
I put a nut behind it to lock it in place (worked well).
I did have a problem with the guide bushing loosening up.
My solution was to put LockTite on the threads (I almost never got it off my router base.)
I wouldn't mind someone's suggestion for a better solution.
I would not use locktite. I just used some pliers to snug it up. Never had any issues. Thanks for watching
Whoever gives this guy a thumbs-down it's got to be a closet accountant that doesn't know what end of a screwdriver to use. pay no attention to a guy that doesn't know what end of a screwdriver to use. dude 😎 you're doing good
Thank you Mike. I appreciate it
Best video review, well detailed explanation. Thanks for Sharing
Thank you
Hey Tracy, Thanks a bunch for this really useful lesson on how to set up and use my new 4216 jig. It was a pleasure to watch to boot. Jim
Thank you Jim. I'm glad it was helpful
Great Video! My mini 7 degree 9/32 router bit which came with the Porter Cable jig needs replacing. Do you know where we can find a router bit to replace?
Thank you. I would suggest bits n bits.
Thank you Tracy, I just purchased this jig and your video is very helpful prior to me even opening the box. I will check out more of your videos especially since you fixed the intermittent beeping in the background LOL.
Lol thank you.
Great video Tracy, thank you! I have a question.
Each of the templates comes equipped with a depth gauge to adjust your router bit to the proper length. But there is also a depth gauge mounted to the left side of the jig itself. I believe it’s called the tails/box bit depth gauge (Page 13 K2 in the manual). I can see on page 23 of the manual where they ask you to use that depth gauge, but I don’t see anywhere in the manual where it tells you how to set up the tails/box bit depth gauge. Does anyone know if this tails/box depth gauge gets set to 3/8” just like the depth gauges on each template, or is there a different adjustment for the tails/box depth gauge?
The router bit needs to be set to the thickness of the material you are working with. If you adjust the depth guage stop to that thickness you should be fine. You can do this by placing a piece of scrap material the same thickness as your work piece and adjusting the stop so the piece will fit between the stop and the template. Hope that makes sense
Thanks for the wonderful post was really interested in this because I wanted to make box joints finger joints for plywood boxes. Thanks for the wonderful post answered all my questions
Thanks Tracy. My jig should be with me in time for the Christmas holiday over here in the UK. I'll use your video for reference. happy Christmas to you and your family my friend.
Merry Christmas to you too my friend and thanks for watching. You will like the jig.
Excellent Video, Info.
@ezrabrooks12 thank you. I have a Playlist on my channel also which covers different techniques of joinery with this jig. Through dovetails, halfblinds, box joints, etc you might be interested in
dude you should get into radio you have a FANTASTIC voice. Love the accent and I am freaking Yankee NYCer!
Thank you sir. Hope you enjoyed the video as much as my voice lol. I have had a few tell me I needed to be ready childrens books
good video. im about to buy this jig. im wondering why you used a plunge base and not a fixed base. i suppose it doesnt matter but im thinking depth setting would be a bit easier. i have the plunge and fixed base combo dewalt router and i will find out when my jig arrives.
Thank you. I use the plunge base for two reasons. 1. To me it's easy enough to just plunge down to the stop and lock the router down. Takes just a second. 2. My fixed base is mounted in my router cabinet and it's a lot of trouble taking it out. But you can use either
very nice video--I just purchased and received the same model yesterday--going to spend weekend making drawers (hopefully).
It's a great jig. Takes a little bit of fine tuning but once dialed in its great. Good choice of jig
You might be able to keep those brass rings from spinning by backing a bolt onto them from behind and locking them into position. But your idea of turning the black knobs out far enough to remove the template is a good idea. Great video; thanks for posting. My jig is on the way; your video gave me great insight.
Thank you. I am actually in the process of a new video doing through dovetails with this jig. It has more details and focuses on the setup of the jig. Watch for it to post. I'm hoping to have it out some time tomorrow
Just got mine today. This video should save some frustration. Thanks. Oh yeah, subscribed.
Thank you sir. I hope it is helpful and thanks for subscribing
Thanks Tracy!!! This was the video that cleared up so much for me. As a complete rookie I looked at all the TH-cam videos, manual and the odd wood working expert on starting on this new adventure. I purchased the 4212, not knowing that I was limited to the 1/2" bits and couldn't cut the 1/4" dovetails as there's no jig in the 4212. I can order the Porter Cable mini dovetail jig on line and I purchased a 1/4" template guide for my router. Only issue is the material guides for the mini dovetail clamps are not available, at least not here in Canada. I've exhausted all the tips from dealers on how to get my hands on the 1/4 material bracket... any suggestions?
Also curious if you know the answer to this: I have a 2.25 HP Bosch 1617E router and I have to by an adapter for the router guides to fit on the routers base. Question is will it be automatically centered or is there yet another piece of hardware to ensure this? Cheers and thanks again for your great video!!!
Answered my own question. When you order the mini dovetail jig it comes with the material brackets and 1/4 router guide. I just saw the picture of the guide as they didn't show the other parts. Now I can proceed like I had purchased the 4216 kit.
Thank you and I am glad you enjoyed the video and that it was useful for you i can not answer your question in reference to your jig because I am not familiar with that jig. I apologize for that. I have a couple more videos on my channel for using the 4216. As far as centering. I am assuming you are referring to centering the guide bushing on the bit. You can purchase a centering guide OR you can also take a Phillips screw driver and a 1/4 inch guide bushing. Losen all the screws in the router base plate slightly. Enough for the base plate to move. Then install the 1/4 guide bushing in the base plate. Place the Phillips screw driver through the guide bushing and tighten the collet up on the screw driver and then tighten the base plate back up on the router. This will center your base plate on the collet. Note the screw drive will need to have a 1/4 shift or one that fits snug in the guide bushing. Hope this helps. Also search my channel for "through dovetails " and I have another video on "sliding and stopped dovetails ". I hope this helps
They have a supplemental manual that suggests an alternate method of setting the depth. Line up a board the same thickness as the mating piece and use it to draw a line on the face of the board. The same doc has a solution for for the brass nuts, you can put another nut behind the brass nut to lock it in place.
I have had a few comments about locking the brass bushings with a locking nut. I have just never had the need to do that as of yet.
Thanks for this great info unboxing mine today!!
Great review and detail. Thank you
Great review video! I ordered my Porter Cable 4216 Jig last night. This is a great reference for me. Thanks for posting this :)
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching
Is it possible to router two narrower boards at the same time by butting a second set up against the first set in the jig?
Yes it is. As long as the boards are not wider than the jig. Just line them up like you would a wider panel. Of course you would have to stop for each board if you are making stopped dovetails
Awesome video - I had just purchased the 4216 and used your video to set it up so thanks! Also, great voice, you should consider Country singing
Thank you sir. I actually do play music and sing. Just dont have time to these days. Thank you for your kind words though
Thanks for your great calm video it helped me no end here in the land down under. Keep up the good work. subscribed :-)
Thank you
This is something for potential purchasers of this jig to bear in mind, is to ensure (unlike mine) that your router can accept screw on the template guide attachments as my bosch 1200 router has a sds guide coupling system and wont take the guides with out an adaptor which i am now having to try to source from bosch. i got all set up with the jig only to find this out ,learning woodworking you learn from expensive mistakes at times :-)
I would like to see some videos on how to use the templates from the PC 4216 with a clamping board. OK, make that a challenge... 😚😚
What do you mean "clamping board"?
Every review i watch on the porter cable dovetail jig does not say anything about the large offset guides that come with the 4216. What are they used for? Could you explain a little bit more of what they are used for?
With this jig you should have 2 different sets of offsets. One is 1/4 and the other is 1/2 inch. If you are using the 1/2 bit set you will use the 1/2 off sets. Your board that slides up from the bottom (vertical) on the front of the jig will slide over against the off set. You will slide the top board (horizontal) over against the offset. This will offset your tails and pins the correct distance from each other. That way your boards will line up across the top and bottom when the joint is put together.
Ok well thank you for replying back to me first. That makes since to me now.
@@dcganske Thank you sir. Glad I could help. I hope you subscribed. Also check out my video of through dovetails with that same jig
Thank you excellent explanation on everything. Even I understood most everything you showed how it actually works. I think you just sold one of these for Porter Cable. Do you know if this the same jig Rockler sells with their name on it? Looking to a Black Friday Deal. :)
Thank you. I should get a commission from Porter Cable lol but I dont. I think Rockler sells their own dovetail jig and they also sell the Porter Cable dovetail jig but I dont know how similar they are
What router would you recommend to use with this?
I wont recommend a brand of router but you will want a plunge base and you will need a base plate which will hold the bushings
The bit plunges thru the guide bushing? How many bushings and bits do you use when doing dovetails? The bit is set on the outside of the collar on the guide....
When making half blind dovetails you will only use the dovetail bit. Either the half inch or the quarter inch. When making through dovetails you will use a dovetail bit and a pattern bit. And yes you will plunge the bit or bits through the guide bushings. You should have 2 half inch guide bushings and 2 quarter inch guide bushings. The guide bushing with the largest hole is for your half inch dovetail bit. The other half inch bushing is for the half inch pattern bit. Same principals for the quarter inch dovetail and pattern bit. I hope this helps
To solve the problem with the brass nuts from moving perhaps you could wrap some Teflon tape around the threads to tighten them up or more extreme would be to drill and tap them for a small set screw with a nylon tip so you don't damage the threads. Good video though. You covered the good and the bad about the jig.
Good tips. I really like the teflon tape idea. Just wonder how long the tape would last. Thanks for the compliments on the video
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 I was thinking, perhaps putting a jam nut behind the brass nut would do the trick.
so I got my 4216 today and set it up. but when I cut a test for half blinds dovetails, they did not align up properly and while they were off a little to one side, the dovetail were too tight side to side.
I am watching your video again to see what I did wrong. I did just order the router plate centering tool as I think that may be the problem, although I just got the router (Dewalt 618) as my other router (dewalt 611) won't hold a 1/2 inch bit and I wanted to use the 1/2 bit for this and other projects (I also have a 1/2 shank bowl bit.
It is one of those jigs which the stars all have to align. If your bottom plate is not centered your joints will not be right. When I made my first I had to cut multiple practice pieces. I would cut and when they didnt fit I would cut those tails off with the miter saw and readjust and do them again. When you are in line it make beautiful joints
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 thanks. That's what I am doing. while I am using the offset, after I cut the drawer tops don't line up so the offset isn't right. I luckily have lots of boards I can practice with like you suggested. I need to get a drawer down this weekend though so I will be messing with this tomorrow after work.
@@cliffart7398 have you got the right offsets on the jig? There is two sets. One for the 1/4 inch bits and one set for the 1/2 bits
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 [ do. the router plate was not centered. got the centering tool this morning and now cut perfect blind dovetails
@@cliffart7398 great!
I have this exact jig and I’ve only cut half blind dovetails but it’s extremely user friendly
Yeah it really it. Took me a few times to get it tuned in but once I did it worked like a charm
I subscribed to your channel. Like your videos. I woke my wife up last night laughing when you made the router table and drilled your resets all the way thru lol. But good stuff!
Thanks man. It's a learning curve and when it doesn't work out I call it rustic
@@Jordanwoodworking lol that's right
Hi Tracy, thanks for your great video. I have a question: The specs on the material thickness, as shown in the manual, state from 1/4” to 1 1/8”. What would be the result if I used material that is 1 1/4” thick? That thickness fits between the clamp bars and the body of the jig (just barely but it fits). I am planning on making half blind dovetails. Will I have a problem? Do you recommend that I reduce the thickness to the 1 1/8” maximum as shown in the manual?
I have never dovetailed material that thick before. Just thinking about it I would assume the size dovetail the provided bits make are not capable of holding material that size. I would probably cut those by hand. You could take some scrap material that desired thickness and just make one to test the strength.
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 Thanks Tracy. I was thinking the same thing. I’m going to try making the dovetail joint on one end of the material using the 1 1/4” thickness and see how the joint holds. If it doesn’t seem strong enough, I’ll mill the material down to 1 1/8” and go with that thickness. Will let you know how it comes out.
@@DelCsWoodworks Yes please let me know. I have never made a dovetail with material over 3/4. Would be interesting
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 Hi again Tracy. I ended up milling the materisl down ti 1.125" thick and it worked just fine.
Will send you a pic of the table before finishing.
Good video and I think I will buy one based upon your discussion. Thank you a lot.
Your welcome and thanks for watching. It is a good jig and makes great joints. Mine did anyway. It just does take some time to set it up. Thanks again
thanks this is helpful
Thank you. I have two more videos on this jig also.
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 thank you ... I would really appreciate if you share the link ... with this one I was able to set up my jig today
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These links also pop up on the screen at the end of the video
Doesn't this model have the option for a cabinet?
@@richardstoker4963 Not that I am aware of.
Good job man I like the video
Thank you. I have two others on this jig also
Thanks Tracy, appreciate your detailed instructions!
You are welcome
Great review
Thank you.
Good vid Hoss
Thank you very much sir
Good concise video. Thank you Tracy. Could do with a bit more volume in places. Have a good New Year
Thank you. I dont have a Mic yet for sound but I'll work on that
Your editing software should allow you to increase or decrease the volume for each clip you edit
@@IrishChippy it does.
Excellent video
Thank you sir.
Thanks, good video👍
Thank you David and Thanks for watching
good video but, Porter Cable should have left the older heavier ones in production, they were made so much better (cast and machining) and if they had some of the newer features this on has such as the lines in the template and the depth scale it would have been that much better. Like usual someone said lets get them made cheaper so we can make more money
Thank you
hi! I need to buy this jig and I need to know the box size, could you share the measurements?
The box size? Like the box the jig comes in?
Thanks very much. Very helpful to me.
Thank you for watching
I made some improvements to the Porter Cable jig to get more consistent results. Video here th-cam.com/video/hTRCSAM-YTk/w-d-xo.html
Great work on the video. I subbed
What is that beep??
It was the garage door battery alarm. The backup battery had died
PROTIP: PUT ON 2X SPEED. hahah GOOD ol' boy's speak real slow... Not dumb, just slow talk.
I really appreciate the video, as I am looking to buy this jig, but please please shut off that smoke detector or whatever is making the beeping noise. It is very distracting.
It was the garage door opener. Lol the battery was needing replacing. Battery has been replaced and the house has been sold
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 ;)
"PORTER-CABLE 4216" or "Rockler's Complete Dovetail Jig with Dovetail Jig Dust Collector Combo" Which do you think is the best?
I have not used Rocklers dovetail jig so I cant really say which I think would be best. I do know the quality dovetails the Porter cable jig produces. You will just have to weigh the differences between the two brands of what you want. With porter cable I get 3 templates, bits and guide bushings but no dust collection. So for me I dont cut dovetails every day but when I do I have more options of what I can cut. But if collecting the dust is more important I would go with Rockler. Or maybe try to make something that will collect the dust on the Porter cable jig. Might be something I may try to make in the future. Because it is a mess maker. But no more than I use it to cut dovetails, for me, I'll just wear a mask. Great question. Made me think on that one lol. Thanks for watching
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 When you analyze it, please consider Rockler has 3 more templates to buy it separately (A, B, mini).
why not shut off that beeping
That was the garage door back up battery. It was low. So I sold the house 3 yrs ago lol
@@hammerdownwoodworkingtracy3679 😂 good one !!! that’s funny
My man is doing a review while he forgot his hot cocoa in the microwave. Things beeping every 30 seconds. Distracting as hell
I agree. That was the low battery warning on the garage door opener. Not in that shop any more
Don’t buy it, I have a porter cable 77240 . Porter cable is going out of business and not supporting it products after DEWALT Stanley bought them. They are royobi quality now.
I did not know they sold out.