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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Hi kids, today I wanted to find our which is harder, coming out as gay or thinking Splatoon 2 is better than Splatoon 3. Surely it will be the first one, right? Also, surely this video will publish in 1080p, right?
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Corrections: S3 has more maps than 2 now (if you exclude shifty stations) and S3 is also now 2 maps more Splatoon 3 than it is Splatoon 1 and 2. Uhh, a win is a win I guess?
It is. I still just stand by tho, a jump of one more from the last game isn’t exactly a bragging point next to, what was it, like 7 more in the last one? I still just think the stupidest decision they made of all was not allowing _any_ stages to return if they were just in both 1 and 2, as some of those were some of the best… but ye win’s a win
@@redi.c.e.6046 Similar thing goes for Splat 3 having two more kits than Splat 2 (scoped weapons and replicas notwithstanding)
As a firm s3 is better fan I can still appreciate a lot of the points in this video, there's a lot to like about the update period and choices. Stages and kits has me torn. I think the stages splatoon 3 is outputting recently dwarf most of 2s but were getting like 3 of them and the reworks aren't making old stages match that. Kit wise I think Splatoon 2s are much worse there are some truly awful choices but they did kind of have a direction with them and I do respect that.
Personally while I have my issues with both (esp endgame s2) im still overall happy with the product, there's just a lot to critique with these games.
hi chara (you dont know i exist)
I'd say that more options, even if they aren't as good, are more likely to be FUN options. Like grim range was very fun for me, the brellas, splat dualies' insane burst combo and more are very FUN for me.
Although s2 has a lot more obnoxious options like Ray, missles and armor which lets me say that s3 beats it out. I'm kind of bummed that I missed most of Chaos vs Order since I was abroad but seeing the game grow and develop was very fun.
Overall, I think that polished s2 < polished s3 BUT while content updates happened, it's close but s2 > s3
Yo it’s professional character
Definitely agree with this take. Splatoon 3 is overall better imo but 2 has a few upsides
We had to whip out the big guns to prove the superior point
@@Noteturtle90Splatoon 3 updates in weapons and overall quality of life changes and it's base game make it a lot better then 2. I have played all 3 games and 2 didn't add much besides duelies.
Splatoon 2 handled updates, maps/kits, Splatfest theming, and DLC better, but Splatoon 3 made so many great changes that makes the other Splatoon games look a lot more bare
I think you’ve probably hit every nail on the head on why I prefer splatoon 2. It’s easy to say “it’s just nostalgia” but splatoon 3 just hasn’t given me the experience I gotten from 2 and I don’t think that’s nostalgias fault
And they hated Rizone for he spoke the truth.
I'm tired of having to stay silent about 3's massive flaws because of the toxic positively of the community. You have basically summed up the whole argument in this and your previous videos and I hope they reach more people because it needs to be said.
I eagerly await the Side Order video because I also have controversial opinions about it that I hope you can shed light on. OE was perfection and SO was aggressively mid, not only in story but also gameplay considering there are several other rougelites that are far more repayable for the same cost or cheaper.
it's such a minor thing but splatoon 2's splatfests opening up with pearl and marina on the stage and not just on the news screen is something i really miss in three, it just doesn't have that same impact upon opening up the game on splatfests anymore
It also doesn’t make any logical sense bc they’re not there
@@longerhandleisntavailable oooh yeah, that
Someone said that S3 is much more orderly compared to the other two games and i feel like that is the best way to describe it. Splatoon 3 itself isn’t chaotic, its just an aesthetic
One thing that I liked in Splatoon 2 where whenever you win or lose a match, depending on the gender and species of your player, they'd have some sort of unique animation depending on what weapon you chose.
I hated that Splatoon 3 didn’t bring back those unique animations, because even though gender doesn’t really exist anymore, it just feels... wrong.
I might sound a bit like a bitch based on the way I'm talking abiut it, but I just wanted to get it off my chest for goodness sake.
While I agree with Splatoon 3 having worse live service aspect Splatoon 3 is a huge improvement over Splatoon 2 in terms of gameplay aspects, the only two exceptions being the campaigns and multiplayer maps. The campaigns of Splatoon 2 were better and the maps felt way more open and unique, but that's about it. In Splatoon 3 the kits are way better and unique while in Splatoon 2 the kit was doomed if it had a special like splashdown or curling bomb rush. The special design is way better, people who complain about Tri-zooka haven't experienced Sting ray. The squid roll and squid surge are such massive improvements on the movement system that I can't imagine a future Splatoon game without them. The side modes (Salmon run Next wave and Tableturf) of Splatoon 3 are actually fun and are more replayable. There is an actual incentive to get more in game currency in Splatoon 3, locker decorations, five star clothes, shellout machine, and cleaning gear. Meanwhile in Splatoon 2 once you reached level 50 The shops start having nothing of value. There's also way more to strive for inbetween updates like getting five stars on your favorite weapons, getting salmon run badges and scales, as well as leveling up in tableturf. More minor improvements: Victory emotes, spawning system, adjusting gear, challenges, more character customization, more weapons overall, swapping out main perks on gear, and it's way easier to obtain chunks.
There are things to appreciate in Splatoon 2 over Splatoon 3 but there are numerous improvements that make so I am way happier with the current gameplay of Splatoon 3 than Splatoon 2.
Octo Expansion may be better than Side Order but Return of the Mammalians is a million times more interesting and fun than Octo Valley imo.
@@paulryan220 I understand that opinion. I personally prefer octo valley as I like longer platforming levels. I think a lot of people would have more positive opinions of Octo Valley if they didn't have to play it seven times for weapons.
@@Oswerb To be fair, that last part is 100% optional. I like Splatoon's platforming too, but in that instance, I'd just play Return of the Mammalians which still has plenty of platforming levels but with Octo Expansion's more interesting formula.
I prefer 3 over 2 but 2 is better in the long term. Splatoon 2 has that addictive factor that keeps you coming back for more, where as 3 is good but only in bursts. 3 had better salmon run, main campaign, and mechanics. But 2 had better maps, DLC, kits, and splatfests. If only we could have tricolor in shifty stations…
It seems to me like Nintendo experimented with 3. While it worked in some ways, it didn’t in others. I hope splatoon 4’s updates are more like 2’s if it happens.
Splatoon 3 handle the updates with a lot of care
I have ALWAYS thought this so glad someone agrees with me 😭😭
Side Order was cool on launch, but as the months went by, I've been left with an increasingly prominent, "I waited over a year for this..?" I wasn't around for Octo Expansion's release, but it feels like they did more with less time. Even as a rogue like, I don't think they committed hard enough.
I really dislike a lot of Splatoon 2's choices and design ideas but GOD did this game feel like after 3.0.0 it was the best time to get into the series. every month there would be a new update, the leaked 2nd kits datamines were fun to see, the lore dumps in the artbooks, the new weapons and QOL life updates, OCTO EXPANSION RELEASE TRAIN ugh, release trailer, the slow drip of info where people translated so many interviews just to get a crumb of new info about what its gonna be like, the Octoboy playtesting era, the ANNOUNCEMENT of it dropping tomorrow after the World Finals along with the announcement of content extension and FINALLY getting a new slosher/splatling. the other 2 new weapons getting randomly dropped in august. the KENSA TRAILER. the splatfest changes and deluxe fest getting shown for the first time. the map rework reveals. the sheldon picks randomly getting announced at koshin like LORD... FINAL FEST BEING ANNOUNCED. and then the splatfest reruns being announced during 2020.
one thing during splatoon 2's era is they MADE you feel like you were feel like you paid 120$ instead of 60$. they would say "heres a plate of cake oh wait now here's a donut and now heres a cupcake. oh wait did you want more cake ok heres a whole new double layered one. also SURPRISE! heres a bonus cake!"
Im tired of staying silent about the flaws of 3. The map design is awful, the kits are awful, and the seasons add nothing. At the start of sizzle season 24, we will have 3 more kits than s2. A whole THREE in a game that started with all the weapons in the base version. We will also only have one more map than s2 when 3 started with more maps. This means Nintendo added content at a slower rate than they did in s2, and s2 content was already slow. Splatoon 3 is a failure and I hope people will be able to see it in the future. At least s2 was fun casually. S3 isnt fun in comp or casual.
I agree with *Most* of your points. I find the seasonal content system Unessesary, like c'mon its getting repetitive seeing it in ever modern multiplayer game. I don't mind the maps but yes most designs are awful. 2 years and only 2 kits for each weapon? Really since splatoon 2 ive been playing mostly salmon Run so the lack of salmon run content in S3 doesn't bother me. Eggtrawork was fun the *first* time but, my god it is not even worth it to play after realizing how badly designed it is, All that grinding for a golden sticker? Seriously? Why are most of the rewards in the salmon run store cost SO MUCH scales? Side orders story could've been better but i still have alot of fun playing it. The "Connection interupted" & crashing players mid match hasn't happend alot to me so i didn't mind it as much as others.
Despite Splatoon 3's MAJOR flaws i still, for 2 years i still have had fun playing it more than Splatoon 2. I respectfully somewhat disagree with your take on Splatoon 3 being a complete failure. For me It's more of "Missied potential" and "what the actual fuck are these devs doing, why are they fumbling this game so hard" for me. It disappointed most of the playerbase but not the sales, I'll say.
Im glad most of the people in this comment section are sharing thier opinions and giving this game the valid criticisms it desperately needs instead of being toxic because i remember last year when someone basically called me a Narcissist for defending splatoon 3 because i thought it was funny when he said it was worse than Overwatch 2.
To me Its funny looking back when S3 won multiplayer game of 2022 and so many people crying that it should've been OW2 or MWII. Nobody talks about MWII anymore (it was an objectively bad game that jingled Nostalgia keys in front of everyone), and how rock bottom Overwacth 2 is now, And somehow Splatoon 3 is better than both of those games.
This comment is so visibly biased and full of wrong statements it's crazy
Trust me, the flaws of Splatoon 3 have been mentioned many, MANY times
@@Falcoliqueit’s an opinion, it’s gonna have bias
@hogguleew4h No in the future and here splatoon 3 isn't seen as a failure at all for a matter of fact it keeps growing at a positive rate
Honestly what kills my enjoyment of Splatoon 3 the most FOR ME, it's how this game has a severe lack of polish compared to Splatoon 2, there is more bugs visual issues and inconsistencies that simply didn't exist in that game... Trees not being paintable, the background jellies at 5 fps etc...
I my favorite mode in splatoon is salmon run and they made it 10 times better in splatoon 3 .
I enjoy it a lot and have been grinding for a few months but have yet to get a gold from a king boss 😢
I think both games have their Strengths and Weaknesses. But… Maybe wrong should be more nice to Splatoon 2 than before. Also yes, Octo Expansion is objectively one of the best DLC!
ok, i NEED your video about the side order story criticism… it was so underwhelming
Being new to splatoon I'm hoping Splatoon 4 can have S3 quality of life changes while being more like S2 with the quality and quantity.
Splatoon 2's the only Splatoon game where I did not play throughout it's lifetime. I got it at launch, played a little bit, but quit because it's so frustrating. I did not like PvP as the special design was terrible, nothing was powerful by themselves and armor was a necessity. Salmon Run was restrictive. And the base game story mode was completely unengaging as it was just a repeat of 1's. It all felt like a lesser experience than 1 that I quit and didn't get to experience the Splatfests beyond Ketchup vs Mayo. I didn't play Octo Expansion (Peak of the Franchise) until I was starting to get hyped for Splatoon 3.
I've got my gripes with 3 but I find it a lot more fun to play than 2.
That is what I felt like when playing splatoon 2 and it had a awful rank system
as a heavy weapon player, dealing with stingray, tenta missiles, rain, bombs was annoying af
The main campaign of 3 is better than 2, the dlc campaign is better in 2 then 3 in my opinion
Yeah, that's a commonplace thought due to how people sort the stuff into "good" or "servicable, but little payoff for little effort on the devs' part".
Also in terms of looks i love splatoon 2 more, it's bright, vibrant, having that new and fresh feeling if you play from Splatoon 1. Especially maybe the lobby, even though splat 3 has more wide lobby.
Idk what's wrong with splatoon 3 shader, some of them looks half baked, like the table turf area.
Right?? Splatoon 3’s graphics are almost.. boring. S2 graphics slapped onto this game would make it look so much better
I mean, comparing the team working on this game to Splatoon 2, Nintendo EPD without Monolith Soft had to rush for just two games in 2022 with 4 games in 2021.
This is also because of COVID-19 and many games they work previously like Animal Crossing : New Horizons.
Is splatoon 3 objectively better? Probably, yeah, given the amount of content and the special design and things like that. But I’ll always prefer 2, if nothing else than for the nostalgia and the vibes it had.
I’d say 3 has better quality of life features for multiplayer and more quantity of content (especially when comparing day 1) but a lot of 3 is recycled and lacks variety
Also I also much prefer 2’s atmosphere
So much more consistent
Yes, I feel like Splatoon 3 lacks that “Splatoon” vibe. Splatoon 2 kinda did too but it still felt like “Splatoon” unlike 3.
@@octokraken6359 Yh 2’s vibe like the rest of the game felt like 1 perfected imo
But 3 seemed like it wanted to replace that vibe with a more anarchic, mad max vibe
I was totally up for that with all the trailers but once the game released and looking at some of the concept art and the finalfest gear it’s clear the game didn’t live up to the promised aesthetic
The idols, the maps, they barely reflect chaos and anarchy yet those words are hammered into the game such as anarchy battle instead of “ranked”
Eh, imo if you're a sequel and you're not exceeding your predecessor comfortably then the predecessor is objectively better. EG Pokémon Platinum is objectively better than BDSP because it was released 10 years before and has some significant features over BDSP. The QoL improvements in BDSP do not improve enough to justify the lack of progress.
agreed. won't ever forget the fun I had playing splatoon 2 back in 2018
REAL I think that Splatoon 3 is way more frustrating and boring right now than Splatoon 2 was back then
To be honest I play this game almost excludively for Salmon Run, which is better than it was in 2. I can’t say much about PvP because I HATE PvP in this game… You’re probably right that it was better in 2. Bad maps, full of tryhards, and don’t even get me started on the godawful gear and Sheldon license systems!
I like Splatoon 3 more overall, but I hate the update cycle for it. Carbon Deco, Custom E-Liter, and now Custom Range all have the same kits from Splatoon 1. I don't have a problem with them reusing the same kits, but I don't understand why we have to wait multiple seasons for them to release kits that are basically complete.
I’m fairly new to the splatoon franchise and picked 2 up for a low price , I didn’t think I’d like it too much but I loved it , never played the third one but your probably right
Find someone who likes side order more than octo expansion? Sure!
I prefer side order over octo expansion, it literally almost brought me to tears vs octo expansion which just felt like a chore to complete for me.
Okay, so for me I got into Splatoon really late. Only really trying it when a friend goaded me into playing the 3 Demo. Afterwards I went and played 2. And I have to say I really liked 2 much more than 3, except that playing my favorite weapon the splatling is torture in it. I and supremely sad and disappointed that I'll possibly NEVER get the experience the amazing wonder that was the Shifty Stations.
one thing ive preferred 2 to 3 over is the artistic direction. as the series has progressed the art has gone from really rough-looking to super refined-- which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it feels way too polished compared to the art in 2 and 3 and kinda goes against the whole chaos thing going on. for example look at the h2whoa album cover vs the ink theory album cover. the h2whoa art is AMAZING but it just feels... too polished? for splatoon? if that makes sense? a lot of the artistic direction in 1 comes from the rough skater surfer rebellious vibes, and you could tell with the art and the music. in 2, that same direction is carried over but with the littlest bit of refinement to add to the "cool" vibe. in 3, it just feels like the artists got too good at the art (not a bad thing haha) and decided to focus on over-polishing it instead of purposefully scuffing it up to fit the chaos vibes. idunno thats just me :p
Big agree. The art style has lost all of its wackiness and attitude.
Splatoon 3 was absolute peak until they just sold with every update lmao
Still is and splatoon 3 is aging like whisky
1:23 - 1:35 funnily enough, I literally got S2 at the last second just in time _for_ the final fest, and even tho I didn’t quite understand the context having not played Octo Exp., knowing killer wail wasn’t in 2 still made it so I know _exactly_ what you mean.
2:53 - 3:09 guess I knew this was coming
2:38 For clarity I too know there will be no content extension, or at least not one like we hoped for, am can’t believe when people now still do think there’ll be, don’t worry, I think so too. BUT, tbch, even with how things look, I still will not lose all hope for certain no 3rd kits will happen until it’s literally all over, simply because of, as Chara said, the 3rd kits like Sheldon’s have always dropped at unexpected, sudden, and late times, so I still won’t have much faith, but unlike an extension which is basically certain, I say we still just hold on and see til the end for 3rd kits, as they alone would increase my favouritism of 3 by like 55%, they still might not happen, but don’t write to their loved ones just yet is all I say.
3:40 - 3:50 finally someone addresses it, honestly i’m literally more upset with the quantity of maps in the game than the quality (even if i’m the only one)
4:49 - 5:02 (last 2 seconds especially) well, its nothing special to think OE’s story is better than SO’s (cus it is), but that’s actually quiiite hot of a take ya got there that defo is just an opinion, but even then that’s all good, I’m guessing you’d just be referring to parts _of_ the lore anyhow, since even if ya do find SO’s story bad overall (fair), there are some particular parts about it I don’t get how one could think were done bad, but… well, I guess that’s where wise men _end_ the conversation 😅
As for the video’s case overall, even I as possibly the most avid (or at least, desperate) S2 defender still believe 3 to be the best, singleplayer, salmon, mechanics, other stuff in the rest of the game, etc. Nevertheless, I’m always ecstatic to hear some praise for 2, and thank you for making it’s merits apparent again. Even for the stuff I can’t concur with, I’m with the guy who said 100% respect regardless.
when i quit playing Splatoon 2 it was because the teenage mutant ninja turtles splatfests burnt me out, while in splatoon 3 the presentation and meta aspects of the game made it feel so much worse to lose to the point where i couldn't play the game without feeling awful. the fact that you are shown the enemy team taunting you rather than your team being in despair contributed a lot to that, and the matchmaking is so awful that, after losing way too many times, i finally got a winning streak, and all i could feel was "this is just a respite between the hell this game is".
this isn't even mentioning the sheer grind and FOMO aspects that are all over in splatoon 3, with salmon run especially having way too much of a grind to where it feels unobtainable. i should not require a thousand hours for a fucking cosmetic.
the closest i can compare it to is the endless rewards in SMM2, where you have to clear 1000 levels on easy or normal in order to get certain hoodies. it's way too long of a grind to where when i finally got it, the reward wasn't so much the hoodie anymore but rather the fact that i never have to play endless easy ever again. and that's probably less of a grind than what's in salmon run.
these aspects that made me quit the game were not present in 2, and the reason i quit 2 was because of mismanagement of one aspect at one point in time. there's so much mismanagement in 3 to where i don't want to play anymore, it's a spectator sport for me now.
I came into this expecting to disagree but I actually really get all of your points
Personally for me my biggest thing I prefer s2 over 3 is the overall vibe (bear with me)
I really am not a fan of the more heavy older feeling vibe of s3 and while I prefer s1s vibe to either game s3 is easily my least favorite
This is extremely subjective I know and maybe its tainted by nostalgia a lot but it really bothers me
Whaddaya mean, bear with--
i agree with your opinion, one of the main reasons i like splatoon 2 more than 3 is because it felt more fun to me if that makes sense, 3 still was fun but felt more draining for some reason...
... and also squid beatz why did they remove it! D:
U r right imo. I miss the ranking system most of all tbh.
I miss Splatoon 2 music too
paying for 2 games next stream LMAOO
You have alerted the horde, get to the safe room
Thank you Rizi I have been saying this since 3 came out
Splatoon 3 is TECHNICALLY better in terms of gameplay, balance and content but the Splatoon 2 era just hit DIFFERENT. Add that to the fact that Splatoon 2 added and polished Splatoon 1 by so much. On a side note, imo we had better TH-cam content back then on Splatoon. No hate to the splatubers today, but I think everyone takes this game way too serious now? Idk, I might just be yapping but this video perfectly summarises my feelings on this franchise atm
i like splatoon 2 more because octo expansion and the maps looked nice and idk if im wrong but i think the lightning in splatoon 3 looks worse or the new maps just feel ugly
I'd honestly say aside from QOL changes that just come from being the newer game in any series, there's nothing Splatoon 3 does better than either of the other two games. The gameplay I'd say has gotten worse with every entry. Splatoon 2 still has the two best storymodes and 3 has the two worst ones. Splatoon 2's Salmon Run didn't feel as balll crushing as Splatoon 3's. Content was better distributed in the other two. Splatoon 1 has the best balancing with 2 being decent at it as well. Even some of the more arbitrary things like the idols, I think 3 still made good ones, but they've done them the worst with Deep Cut getting sidelined in their own game by the Squid Sisters in the base game and Off the Hook centering the whole DLC while Deep Cut got nothing in their own game. Even the localization of 3 has been the worst. 1, and 2 especially, the localization added a lot of flavor while not (most of the time) straying too far to mean something entirely different. Meanwhile with 3, it's closer to more direct translations which leads to stuff like Marina's character and dialogue being WAAAAY worse than it was in Splatoon 2.
Even besides all of this, Splatoon 3 was even the only game (so far) that had no purpose to exist. They did NOT need to end support of 2 as soon as they did, but they did because the team can only afford to work on Animal Crossing OR Splatoon. Splatoon 1 was a great first title, and Splatoon 2 may not have been the best at first, but it really came to form its own with updates and DLC, and was necessary to get Splatoon onto this new system of the Switch. Splatoon 3 is just the consequences of the team behind Splatoon and AC's bad work ethics that come from them being too understaffed to do what they should be doing. Splatoon 3 is still in desperate need of one real good DLC to make it a true sequel game and not some half-sequel, but we're not going to get that because of how bad the development of Splatoon 3 and Side Order has been. They're going to opt instead for getting a Splatoon 4 ready to release on their next console. Which, is a good reason for a new sequel compared to 3, but it just cements how completely unnecessary and badly handled both Splatoon 3 and the Splatoon series is being handled by NIntendo.
I agree with these points however...
Think about HOW MANY HOURS of your life have been saved by skipping the news
can't wait for community servers with actual good balance and possibly good kits
Agree
Imo 2 is better cuz
Decent map design and kits
Good fest themes and shifty stations
More cohesive art direction
Less recycled content
Splatoon is a casual shooter first and the maps in 3 do not reflect that
2 did start this after doing without 1’s more fun and less balanced design but 3 cemented it
I hope Splatoon has more fun design (with balancing) and is less formulaic through release methods and gameplay in the future
And big run is boring af
Splatoon 2 was probably more innovative but Splat 3 clears imo, especially in regards to single player content and Salmon Run. I really enjoy Big Run, especially during the old scoring system. I also never want to go back to a game with Ink Armor, Sting Ray, and Missiles all in the same game.
Although i was there for all of splat 2 i couldnt tell you a single splatfest stage 💀 anyway my opinion on this is that splatoon 2 had way better and more interesting updates than 3 and a better dlc but splat 2 made me hate ranked so much (especially clam blitz) that i kinda just didnt play ranked in splat 3 but i can see how someone would prefer the second game to 3
The 1st is the best tho...
I wish I played 2 more as a game than just Squid party
The season format has wrecked free updates in Splatoon 3 - that is the root of the issue.
That doesn't stop the fact the game keeps getting positive feedback this person is a minority
@@maplemiles3381 That’s because Splatoon 3 is most people first Splatoon game, so they don’t know what they’ve missed out on.
@@Jme_hdethat is a invalid reason. I have played all Splatoon games and the third one is said to be the best game in the series to the vast majority of people and the game keeps growing at a positive rate
I 100% agree 2 was the better live-service game, Splatfest truly felt special. In splat3... yeah, they exist.
That being said, splat2 had some REALLY bad kits, while the kits in 3 are more "inoffensive", as in they seem scared to give anything a kit that would be too powerful. Comparing maps from 2 and 3 is like comparing garbage and poop. Sure one is worse than the other, but I'd rather have neither, especially as a splatoon1 veteran (still have not forgiven them for what they did to Mahi and Hammerhead). I will say I'd take the latter half splatoon3 stages over the splatoon2 stages tbh.
I like splatoon 2 better purely because of the matchmaking. Splatoon 3 matchmaking is god awful
I really wish that we had the quality of life updates of 3 (movement, salmon run, probably a lot others) and the new weapons just with the splat 2 stage pool
S2 was one of my favorite games ever... until i saw ink armor out of S3. I know S3 has huge problems with splatfests, kits and even more problems with maps. But imo the salmon run changes, the playable lobby and the removal of SHITTY mechanics like MPU, stingray and armor made S3 more enjoyable to play
Personally, I prefer the game play of 3 better for online (ik shocker), but splatoon 2 had those vibes, and my beloved N-Zap 89 kit with auto and missiles.
Splatoon 2 without a shadow of a doubt is the better game. Better map design than 3 better kits than in 3 better DLC singleplayer. The music in 2 i prefer i prefer the visuals of 2 Splatfests were way better in 2 and way more balanced. The only things i can say 3 has a leg up on compared to 2 are salmon run. And the base game singleplayer. And while this is a personal preferance id much rather fight missile spam from 2 than play against crab and bubbler and vac. Those specials all feel god awful to fight. Way more than missiles ever did imo. Also splat 2 was a much less buggy game.
I actually think side order is better ngl
I bought the expansion pass, and i absolutely loved it
I heard everyone keep saying octo expansion is better, so i bought it to have try it out. Sure the cut scenes, music and story is better, but side order seems higher quality and more polished
I agree with many things you said, but squid roll alone makes saying 2 is better difficult for me
Side order isnt the *worst* story mode because splatoon 2 had octo canyon which was a rehashed splatoon 1 story mode
I never even played splatoon 2 only got 3 on launch and I prefer 2 over 3. mainly because I hate the matchmaking, maps and ranked in 3. 3 focused too much on story and salmon and forgot ranked, look at how they added X so much later
splatoon 2's still pretty good, i do recommend it even if the comp is justifiably dead
I love splatoon 3, don’t judge me. Splatoon 3 is my first video game I’ve payed it with my own money
In my opinion the worst part about splatoon 3 is the music. Why would they replace Wet Floor? Are they stupid?
Splatoon 3 music is pretty good to me
I like some of 3’s tracks but wet floor are my favourite band so I do miss them
I feel splatoon 3 is better but really not by much. The main reason it takes the cake for me is because salmon run is unquestionably better and there’s simply more content. However splatoon 2 does win with the paid dlc and honestly i feel the main campaign from splatoon 2 is also better then the one from splatoon 3.
Just give them 4 months or so, eventually they will accept it
I'm starting to lose faith in the ictoling bowling video happening... please make it and make your biggest fan happy...
I got S2 near the end of its life span, and it nearly turned me off from the whole series.
I almost didn’t play 3 because I hated 2 so much. Thankfully I enjoyed the test fire enough to get into splatoon again.
I know the premise of the video is that content wise S2 did more while it was receiving updates, and while I completely agree this is true I believe it is also fair to compare the games where they leave off, as that’s what we’re stuck with until Nintendo pulls the plug on the network.
“But 3… is a bigger number then 2… therefore…. Splatoon 3 better….”
Splatoon 3 had a lot of stuff I love especially side order and Salmon run
I may not agree with everything said but although it was a well put together video either way, keep up the good work
How is it a "Well put together video" when the person says "you 12 yesr olds will keep defending it" the transcript is childish
I mean yeah sure but I don't want to be dissing it or anything
“splatoon 3 has more splatoon 1 and 2 maps than splatoon 3 maps” combined, yes… but thats only because they are taking from a pool of 2 retro games.. if you look at mario kart 8 deluxe, literally 1/4 of the tracks are nitros and the rest are retro tracks. that isnt a bad thing at all
I think Splatoon 2 is TERRIBLE and Splatoon 3 is TERRIBLE and Splatoon 1 is TERRIBLE and my life is better because I stopped playing them
You are so real for this
fr lmao
Terrible but addictive.
Ultrakill better imo
sounds line you were the problem because it makes my life better, after working all day I skt down and just play it to relax. 🤷♂️
I agree with pretty much everything you say and then some lol.
One of my main gripes is how much worse ranked/anarchy is in this game than it was in 2. They had a great system going and they ruined it in favor of keeping the modes serrated for some reason. On top of that, rank-up battles are a joke most of the time. You can play and win 5 in a row for like 3 series in a row then blow it in a rank-up several times in a row-or at least that’s my experience. And rank decay… one of the worst things I’ve ever seen lol. I would much prefer being able to rank down instead of being trapped perpetually in a negatively ranked nightmare, if it means the awfulness of rank decay can be removed. It’s effectively a threat, demanding you play splatoon for at least 5 hours, while being lucky enough to be matched with adequate enough teammates so you can rank up, or suffer the consequences. Overall, It was way more fun to rank up to X in 2-nowadays I don’t play nearly as much and when I do it’s nowhere near as enjoyable unfortunately.
That and the maps are kinda garbage too… the terrible maps really accentuate many of the problems I had even with splatoon 2-spawncamping being among the worst, though you could also blame the lack of certain specials like armor and baller to assist as entry tools, as well as no spawn protection (spawn armor should be invincible lol). Zones is nearly unplayable for me nowadays because of this.
Idk I try to appreciate what we have and not complain about it… but at that point if you don’t say anything, nothing will ever change right? At least if you make yourself heard maybe, just maybe, on that one slight off chance, they’ll listen.
Nintendo is doing more good and this season upcoming season their getting a lot of positive feedback and that is because the devs are listening. The ranking system in Splatoon 3 is better then in 2
@@maplemiles3381 lol you can’t just come back with what essentially amounts to a “nuh uh” after I explain why I think it’s worse.
Why do you think 3’d ranking is better than 2’s then?
@@MKJBlewisbecause it simply is it's not straightforward to explain but it simply is
@@maplemiles3381 I write an explanation for my opinions, but you back up yours with a "trust me bro"? Alright then lol.
Splatoon 2 splatfests were waaayy better then splatoon 3, but fizzbangs are cool I’ll admit that
This video is 💯% fire. Thanks for making this because it was so relatable!
The only reason I disagree with this is because I never played Splatoon 2 while it was still actively getting updates and Splatoon 3 was my first splatoon game.
Gotta be honest, I can agree that there’s stuff in S2 that are objectively better than S3 but I can’t even say I dislike S3 either.
I dont think people necessarily hate splatoon 3, its just worse compared to 2. Of course at its core s3 is gonna be better but in comparison to s2, during its prime, its uncomparable
@@Anuboneksplatoon 3 is currently better then two and it lived up to its post launch hype
i disagree with everything but at the same time i hear you
I have not played S2 until recently as to know what people liked about this game, how it played, maps too, and you using Hype as a point like "You should've been there to experience it" is irrelevant and not really a satisfying justification to convince me.
I do get that Splatoon 2 has its own, distinguishable identity whether it is with the OST, The UI, The artstyle, The maps' look which people may like more than 3.
I would rather compare both games after the end of their service and be considered "Finished Products that do not need anymore fixing or content" by Nintendo.
S2 maps do have the edge over S3's maps even tho the recent ones may suggest otherwise
Splatoon 3 is already looking to be better then 2
@@maplemiles3381 Again, I would rather wait, because who knows if daddy Nintendo decides to fuck up everything and we get an End game S2 meta again to force people to buy S4.
@@Falcoliqueyour talking like a toxic gamer from the smash community
SHELL YES.
just by reading the title ik ur right
i think splatoon 3 is the better game but splatoon 2 has the better live service? like... the core of splatoon 3 is imo much better, but splatoon 2's updates have done a lot more and more often too
Splatoon 3 has more good that really makes Splatoon 2 look inferior and Splatoon 3 is getting much more better. When I play Splatoon 3 it looks feels and plays better then the past two games with nothing to hide
@@maplemiles3381 I agree, but I think that's despite the weaker overall update schedule compared to 2's
This is the right opinion
I got s2 in 2020 after all splatfests
my first was Rock Paper Scissors during the s3 demo
1:10
I hated splatoon 2s music and controls they sucked 😅 s3 is so much better to me.
And splatoon 2 is a worse splatoon 1 to me
I really dislike splatoon 2 rank system
This is why your team only got 60 points this last splatfest. (JK. GGs.)
maps shure dlc YES everything eleseeeeeeeee NOW GOD DAM WAY HOLY HELL
I just bought s2
we know
and the community was better
yo straight facts you just got a new sub
fuck side order for real
Good opinion but those shoes are UGLY!
it's your opinion in the end even if it's wrong xp
The fact that you say the words "vallid opinion" at one point in this video makes me want to invalidate all your points here.
You literally said comparing the games isn't a fair competition. Splatoon 3 isn't even done yet. Wait til then
Splatoon 3 is newer. It should already be better
@@Aktedya1-jt7vwSplatoon 3 is already better then 2
@@maplemiles3381 Then theres no problem comparing them!
@@Aktedya1-jt7vwsplatoon 3 is pretty much on par to overtake the life time sales of splatoon 2 and side order helped out in a big way. "Your the reason Nintendo keeps getting away with backlash"
@@maplemiles3381 I don't exactly get what you're trying to say...
Splatoon 2: Better story dlc, better kits, better maps, better splatfests, better ideals
Splatoon 3: Better salmon, better mechanics, better graphics, better base story mode.
Personally permanent salmon run and better mechanics give me the edge to 3 but I can’t deny 2 was more hype.
Bro said better graphics like they dont look the exact same
@@matthewskullblood9778they are better, that’s just that. If anyone you’re the one that didn’t look at them before typing. The appearance of the players when they spawn at the start of the match alone is enough to put side by side and see 3’s better, models, textures, lighting, the ink doesn’t look like it’s made of plastic now. yes it’s basically the same, cus it’s the same style yes, 3 is just better done.
@@matthewskullblood9778 It does look a bit better.
I preferred 2's ink graphics
@@Lyra_dragonaldefinitely valid
As someone who disagrees with nearly every single point in this video, I 100% respect having this opinion
You’re so real for that
Reddit users if they weren’t picking arguments 24/7
Now this. THIS is what is called a good human being. If everybody was just a bit more like you, the world would be a much better place.
@@messydesk_animation_studios computer ass reply
@@messydesk_animation_studiosthanks :)
"It was a better time to be a Splatoon fan during the Splatoon 2 era"
THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THANK YOU
A part of me was thinking it was mostly because I was a kid in middle/high school during that era and I had irl friends that I played regularly with, but genuinely I haven't felt the same magic that Splat2 had from Splat3. The only times I can distinctly remember feeling that was at launch, the story mode, and around the time Side Order came out. Other than that, I've either felt like it was "good but lacking" or just a sort of emptiness.
While I do think the game is mechanically an improvement over the previous two games with Squid Roll alone (and also Squid Surge when it works), between the seasonal model, mediocre stages and questionable kits, post launch support for the game has ranged from alright to frustrating. In terms of Splatfests, while I do find Tricolor fun even when the stage choices are questionable, Shifty Stations were MUCH more interesting of a gimmick and had some of the coolest stage mechanics in the franchise.
Maybe Finalfest will bring some of the magic back, but literally everyone expected it to be an Idol Showdown so I don't see it surprising us.
Splatoon 3 had amazing post launch support and had better output on kits. Plus each season has gotten more and more positive feedback with each update
ONG BRO
bad motion controls and response time is the main reason splat 3 is better for me, also no stingray and armor
this, while I agree with the entire video this part is a HUGE W for S3 but I can see casual fans not caring
I’m not even kidding when I say this, the motion controls of 2 make it unplayable compared to 3. 3 feels so god damn smooth and I’d take the disappointment of some weapon kits and maps over genuinely horrid controls and specials
I’d take stingray and armor over missiles and splashdown tbh
@@FridgemastersCool pfp
@@MKJBlewis missiles and splashdown are in 2??? And they're even more annoying in 2 than they are in 3??? This makes no sense
I’m gonna be honest and I might be attacked but I am definitely disappointed by almost everything Splatoon 3 offers. I don’t really care about graphics I care more about story which Side Order didn’t give too much & it saddens me out considering that I was somebody who anticipated it every single day and then it went through a weird change. There wasn’t much story but I’m not saying the DLC isn’t fun but I’m kind of dissatisfied with the result of the game. Especially with the customization rewards. I also didn’t enjoy the hero mode considering that it felt very recycled content. I just like Splatoon 2 better honestly but then again I might be viewing it as a masterpiece because that was my childhood so🤷 also I really don’t like the 3rd games models. I don’t like the idea of them being more expressive considering in the last games there kind of “NPC expressions”. I also just really don’t like the changes. There’s a lot of new fans which fine whatever but they say s3 is the best one and it bothers me. I know it’s a little selfish but it’s just something that annoys me. I accidentally wrote a book my bad😭
I'll also say that s2 feels better to play casually. In s3, it feels like I have to play like a tryhard IN TURF WAR, instead of messing around with weapons or leveling up new gear
Yeah, that's cause the maps are smaller and have no way around mid of mid, and players respawn faster
thank you for speaking factual information. we all know after splatoon 3 came out the government forced everyone to speak well of splatoon 3