My ULTIMATE wish list: An FU Tone titanium block, saddle blocks and stainless steel locking nut bolts. Those will cost me more than half the price of my whole guitar but will make my really good guitar a KILLER guitar. As an average working schlep helping to raise my grandkids, it’ll take a couple years of saving. It’ll be WELL worth it! Some day. Some day! Can’t wait! Thanks for giving something to shoot for Adam!
Go in stages. If you do brass block, Ti saddle Inserts (just the inserts), noiseless springs and claw - you can GREATLY improve your tone and performance for about a hundred bucks.
@@FloydUpgrades Very true. I already bought the noiseless springs and claw. A good friend of mine had gotten one of your titanium blocks a while back and I played it and my jaw hit the floor! But you are correct. If a brass block was good for Eddie Van Halen, it should be perfect for me! And yes, I meant the titanium inserts. I’ll take your advice. It’s much more do-able price wise and will sound killer.
I recently got a Schecter Hellraiser with a Floyd Rose 1500 in it from Korea. It has the EMG 81 and the sustainiac pickups. First, if you are going to block this so it can't move spray yourself with mace. The Floyd Rose is made for crazy stuff. I did everything he said as far as tuning. I basically detuned mine, blocked it, added a spring and tried it. I have the same strobe tuner he does and it tuned up exactly like he said in the video. Worked great. I have tried to make it go out of tune, solid as a rock. HEY NOW!!
The claw move at the end is a revelation. So that is how you move everything symmetrically... Makes so much sense but I have not seen it even by any pro setup guys I've seen. You changed my guitar life. FU I LOVE YOU GUYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
These are great videos. I got my first Floyd guitar about 6 months ago, a dean from hell. I've been setting up, and modding my guitars for a few years, and they have to be perfect, or it drives me nuts now. Lol learning how to properly set up my Floyd has been an experience. Thanks to videos like this, it's been pretty painless and easy. Thank you🤘
I make my wife watch a lot of guitar/pedal videos. She told me to leave a comment to let you know she thoroughly enjoyed your production and ability to explain everything with ease.
I’ve been screwing around with Floyd Rose setups on my guitars for eons and just used this method. The only regret I have is that I didn’t find this “life hack” sooner in life. Thanks Adam!!
I just want to say your guides to all these setups are beyond valuable to a first time locking trem owner! I look forward to trying out some of your upgrades and maybe some purple hardware to complement my limited edition magenta pacers aesthetics!
FU-Tone after-market modification parts have made a UNIVERSE of difference to my guitar. These videos are extremely helpful. Adam, great work as always.
Hands down the best method on how to set up a floating tremolo I've seen on all of TH-cam, if you follow his steps you can't go wrong, I've watched hundreds maybe even thousands of videos on how to set up a floating tremolo and this guys method works the best.
Don't be afraid. Luthiers are getting hard to find. You have to leave your axe with someone else, and it could be weeks before you get it back. I'm a tradesman and work with my hands, but I believe most people can learn basic setups and even fret work or replace them. I wouldn't try to reset a neck. A lot is just common sense, and do things in little increments. I replaced my block on a P.R.S. se which is approaching C.E. specks. A great guitar. The brass big block is surprisingly heavier than the stock block and is a noticeable improvement. Everyone says don't touch your truss rod. Just do it in a tiny increments. The first time might take longer to perform. It's like learning a new song. Once you play it correctly, it all becomes easy. So don't wait for weeks to get something done that you can take pride of knowing that you did it yourself. Plus, you will save a bunch of money. And have it exactly like you prefer. It's really just physics.
I'm going to watch these videos a few more times over the next few days. I already have the noiseless springs installed. This weekend I will totally trick out the Floyd on my EVH 5150 Standard Stealth guitar. I have the red titanium string block screws, nut screws, intonation screws and the Naval Brass string blocks, and L shaped brass big block....all FU Tone parts. I can't wait. I have heard horror stories about trying to set intonation for a Floyd. I bought The Key from you, and with the videos that you provided, I think I can get it done. I feel that if I can set up and intonate my Gibsons, then I should be able to get my 5150 Standard Stealth guitar setup how I want it. Thank you for making these videos.
@@BOATIE141 it's just more brass, it adds a little extra section under the tremolo arm socket. It looks like it might be in the way of tightening the arm socket from underneath, but it is 100% not in the way at all for an Allen wrench to still fit in there to tighten it
I live watching masters at work. You are truly a master! I love working on guitars, but most of my work has been on basses and the non Floyd Rose aspects of guitars like changing out pickups. The first thing I’ve done to almost all my bases is put in a high mass bridge for better sustain. The only time I don’t have to is on my Geddy Lee signature Fenders. I now have three EVH guitars, one of them being a Wolfgang Special, and all of them I’m going to upgrade to at least a brass block and noiseless springs. I also have an Ibanez RG that I want to upgrade the tremolo, if possible. Thanks for videos and your products. And thank God for Eddie Van Halen. I really miss him.
That garbage trash sound sucker shim you threw away is to help keep more tension on the spring arms on the saddles. It does count as mass. Here is an Idea. Make a block that has a taper at the bottom to compensate if you remove that shim. Just saying. I don't like when the tuner screws are loose. I find more tension on them helps them to not move if I brush up against them while playing and knock my guitar out of tune. I used to remove them. Now I just keep them on.
Since there was no response from anyone at FU Tone to your comment maybe you send them an email or even give them a call and submit your idea. It couldn't hurt. I agree with you on the part about the added mass but being that Adam has been doing this for a long time gives me the impression that he knows what he's talking about too. But hey ask them. Maybe it's something they might take into consideration. You never know until you try.
The " IS GOD" comment should be used sparingly and I do reserve it. but this is one of those times...Adam Reiver IS God of the Floyd Rose set up man! Thank you so much. The wizard wave of the hand after the claw move is no joke. ..that shit is magic.
Thaks for this video and others from you. The interesting thing is whether: if you put a brass or copper plate between the brass big block and the floyd bridge, it would bring a better effect with sound or no plate is needed at all. At the moment - as you show, I also threw it out when I was putting on a big brass block that I bought from you. Greetings from PL-Europe. 🙂
I didn’t know that either. I took it out when I put in my big block. I feel like it dropped the back of the tremolo closer to the body though. Maybe I’m wrong. Anyone know? Working with an EVH Wolfgang fender
Hey, would you recommend removing that trash spacer on all guitars with Floyd Rose, or just when doing this mod? Great video btw, learned more from this than anything ever tbh
Every person that's new to using a Trem system, should watch this video. I always see people panic, and I'm like ...it's not that hard guys! I have a big block on my Schecter, and it made the guitar much brighter, and clearer under high gain. Have some noiseless springs on the way! Then she will be complete! But then...I have to start on my OTHER Floyd. 😂😂
Hey, when you say the saddles are radiused to the neck, is that your FU Bridge? Floyds are flat correct? In that case they get shimmed? Thanks in advance!
Thanks for the great Video. I purchased an Alnicov GAQ405 big block , the trem hole has a black plastic insert , not sure how to get it in. Its seems larger than the hole in the block. is there an end that goes in first ? and do yo tap it in.? I'm of the school of Never force. I don't see how the trem arm will stay pushed in ...or threaded into the hole. The hole appears to be smooth and loose without the plastic sleeve. With the sleeve in ...is it just friction that holds the arm? a bit over my head on this mod. Thanks , appreciate any suggestions or comments
It's there to make sure the spring has tension near the base, but with the big block it's not necessary. I take the spring out too, it's also not necessary.
@@ScottyBrockway I collect them. Eventually, I have enough to replace a block entirely with stacked shims. That's when the tone becomes so negative that it's positive again.
Hey Adam myfriend, I have a 2021 Jem Jr. which I installed the big brass block to increase the sustainability of it and it helped some. What else can I do to bring it up to snuff??? It has the least sustain of ever guitar of 25 I own including a peavey Rockmaster!
put it back together and noticed the saddles aren't resting/laying flat. The saddles are angles/slanted upward a bit. Its like the tension bracket thingy is slightly pushing up against the string lock screws Not allowing the saddles to lay flat/flush once you screw the string lock screws in. Before I start bending the tension bracket to allowing the saddles to lay flat/flush. Got any suggestions recommendations, before I reshape something that doesn't need to be? I haven't put the floyd back into the guitar yet because I noticed the issue at hand. This is a new unboxed floyd with the instalaation of the new hardware upgrade/s. Thanks
I had a similar issue. I’m not sure how to resolve it. Please let me know what you find out. I took out that plate and threw it away like Adam did. I was curious if that was part of the issue. I’m assuming Adam has done this million times and is right, but can anyone else speak to removing that plate. It puts the tail of the Floyd rose slightly closer to the body I think. I am dealing with an EVH fender Wolfgang
@@erickimm5150 Don't know if your issue was/is the same as mine. Regarding my issue I did. I very "slightly" gave each (whatever they are called, part of the bracket thingy's that touch the lock screws) a bend until the saddles lay flat. seriously it doesn't take much to bend them. Very thin material. Just enough of a bend where the saddles begin to touch, lay flat. Don't over bend. if you do over bend, bend them back up and re-bend till you get it right. Be gentle. Also, after I bent them. I made sure the lock screws even all the way across. You don't want any of the lock screws uneven, straight/even all the way across. You want tension on the lock screws because they work with the fine turners. But not like a see saw. That's exactly what mine my saddles were like. A freaking see saw, absolutely unacceptable to me. I will in the future be replacing and upgrading the bracket/plate with a titanium one. Get rid of the cheap flimsy piece. Not much better then a tin can. I could not find anything on youtube about my scenario. I guess nobody had a problem with too much tension on the the lock screws, pushing up the lock screws. Apparently I was one of the first.
I am not questioning your expertise here but trying to understand that which I don't understand. So, why did I not see during this setup a check of neck relief?
The one thing I've found about trying to use the same strings is, your strings tend to indent slightly from your frets when you've first installed them, then when you go to set them up again... those small indents won't match up where they were... leading to intonation and tuning issues. I always just install a brand new set.
… until 10 seconds later, when it’s out of tune again… and several more times going back-and-forth. Floating is hardly worth it, you’ll see after a few years, ha ha.😝🤘🏻🎸
I have no idea why but I really don't trust this guy, I have no reason not to but it's just the fuckin feeling I got ever since the first time I seen him. Nice and trusting of me, right? Oh well...
My ULTIMATE wish list: An FU Tone titanium block, saddle blocks and stainless steel locking nut bolts. Those will cost me more than half the price of my whole guitar but will make my really good guitar a KILLER guitar. As an average working schlep helping to raise my grandkids, it’ll take a couple years of saving. It’ll be WELL worth it! Some day. Some day! Can’t wait! Thanks for giving something to shoot for Adam!
Go in stages. If you do brass block, Ti saddle Inserts (just the inserts), noiseless springs and claw - you can GREATLY improve your tone and performance for about a hundred bucks.
@@FloydUpgrades Very true. I already bought the noiseless springs and claw. A good friend of mine had gotten one of your titanium blocks a while back and I played it and my jaw hit the floor! But you are correct. If a brass block was good for Eddie Van Halen, it should be perfect for me! And yes, I meant the titanium inserts. I’ll take your advice. It’s much more do-able price wise and will sound killer.
@@TheAxe4Ever I bought the Graph Tech string saver saddles from Adam and put in titanium inserts.
@@Living_EDventures Sweet!
Did you get there in the end dude?
I recently got a Schecter Hellraiser with a Floyd Rose 1500 in it from Korea. It has the EMG 81 and the sustainiac pickups. First, if you are going to block this so it can't move spray yourself with mace. The Floyd Rose is made for crazy stuff. I did everything he said as far as tuning. I basically detuned mine, blocked it, added a spring and tried it. I have the same strobe tuner he does and it tuned up exactly like he said in the video. Worked great. I have tried to make it go out of tune, solid as a rock. HEY NOW!!
The claw move at the end is a revelation. So that is how you move everything symmetrically... Makes so much sense but I have not seen it even by any pro setup guys I've seen. You changed my guitar life. FU I LOVE YOU GUYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
These are great videos. I got my first Floyd guitar about 6 months ago, a dean from hell. I've been setting up, and modding my guitars for a few years, and they have to be perfect, or it drives me nuts now. Lol learning how to properly set up my Floyd has been an experience. Thanks to videos like this, it's been pretty painless and easy. Thank you🤘
I make my wife watch a lot of guitar/pedal videos. She told me to leave a comment to let you know she thoroughly enjoyed your production and ability to explain everything with ease.
I’ve been screwing around with Floyd Rose setups on my guitars for eons and just used this method. The only regret I have is that I didn’t find this “life hack” sooner in life. Thanks Adam!!
I just want to say your guides to all these setups are beyond valuable to a first time locking trem owner! I look forward to trying out some of your upgrades and maybe some purple hardware to complement my limited edition magenta pacers aesthetics!
FU-Tone after-market modification parts have made a UNIVERSE of difference to my guitar. These videos are extremely helpful. Adam, great work as always.
Thanks for the video Adam. I'm not a DIY guy but watching this video really helped me. Now I can't wait to do all my Floyds!!
Hands down the best method on how to set up a floating tremolo I've seen on all of TH-cam, if you follow his steps you can't go wrong, I've watched hundreds maybe even thousands of videos on how to set up a floating tremolo and this guys method works the best.
Don't be afraid. Luthiers are getting hard to find. You have to leave your axe with someone else, and it could be weeks before you get it back. I'm a tradesman and work with my hands, but I believe most people can learn basic setups and even fret work or replace them. I wouldn't try to reset a neck. A lot is just common sense, and do things in little increments. I replaced my block on a P.R.S. se which is approaching C.E. specks. A great guitar. The brass big block is surprisingly heavier than the stock block and is a noticeable improvement. Everyone says don't touch your truss rod. Just do it in a tiny increments. The first time might take longer to perform. It's like learning a new song. Once you play it correctly, it all becomes easy. So don't wait for weeks to get something done that you can take pride of knowing that you did it yourself. Plus, you will save a bunch of money. And have it exactly like you prefer. It's really just physics.
Man so thankful for Guitar NutBuster an Vega -Trem.
I'm going to watch these videos a few more times over the next few days. I already have the noiseless springs installed. This weekend I will totally trick out the Floyd on my EVH 5150 Standard Stealth guitar. I have the red titanium string block screws, nut screws, intonation screws and the Naval Brass string blocks, and L shaped brass big block....all FU Tone parts. I can't wait. I have heard horror stories about trying to set intonation for a Floyd. I bought The Key from you, and with the videos that you provided, I think I can get it done. I feel that if I can set up and intonate my Gibsons, then I should be able to get my 5150 Standard Stealth guitar setup how I want it.
Thank you for making these videos.
Dude! I'm totally going to FU Tone up my Floyds! Thanks for these easy to follow step by step videos, man! You Rock! 😎🤘🎸
That big L block is pure magic! Popped one right into my Schaller Lockmeister and it's just made such a beautiful difference in my tone!!!
What is exactly the difference between the L big block and a normal one
@@BOATIE141 it's just more brass, it adds a little extra section under the tremolo arm socket. It looks like it might be in the way of tightening the arm socket from underneath, but it is 100% not in the way at all for an Allen wrench to still fit in there to tighten it
I live watching masters at work. You are truly a master! I love working on guitars, but most of my work has been on basses and the non Floyd Rose aspects of guitars like changing out pickups. The first thing I’ve done to almost all my bases is put in a high mass bridge for better sustain. The only time I don’t have to is on my Geddy Lee signature Fenders. I now have three EVH guitars, one of them being a Wolfgang Special, and all of them I’m going to upgrade to at least a brass block and noiseless springs. I also have an Ibanez RG that I want to upgrade the tremolo, if possible. Thanks for videos and your products. And thank God for Eddie Van Halen. I really miss him.
This is a fantastic video. So much good info. Thanks
That garbage trash sound sucker shim you threw away is to help keep more tension on the spring arms on the saddles. It does count as mass. Here is an Idea. Make a block that has a taper at the bottom to compensate if you remove that shim. Just saying. I don't like when the tuner screws are loose. I find more tension on them helps them to not move if I brush up against them while playing and knock my guitar out of tune. I used to remove them. Now I just keep them on.
Since there was no response from anyone at FU Tone to your comment maybe you send them an email or even give them a call and submit your idea. It couldn't hurt. I agree with you on the part about the added mass but being that Adam has been doing this for a long time gives me the impression that he knows what he's talking about too. But hey ask them. Maybe it's something they might take into consideration. You never know until you try.
THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Its everything I needed to hear
Awesome tutorial! I was always intimidated to do my own set up, not anymore! Thank you.
Adam rules. I’ve just received 4 blocks. I’m pumped to feel and hear the difference once they’re installed.
And lemme guess, there was no difference
You forgot to test for sounds there sir 👍 you came across to what I was doing wrong thxz
Top notch info as always!
The " IS GOD" comment should be used sparingly and I do reserve it. but this is one of those times...Adam Reiver IS God of the Floyd Rose set up man! Thank you so much. The wizard wave of the hand after the claw move is no joke. ..that shit is magic.
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thanks for doing what you do tremedous instruction videos..valuable.....
This video is seriously very helpful!!
That outro song is dope!
Fantastic guide
Great video Adam!!
Great tips - thanks man!!!
Great video.
Thaks for this video and others from you. The interesting thing is whether: if you put a brass or copper plate between the brass big block and the floyd bridge, it would bring a better effect with sound or no plate is needed at all. At the moment - as you show, I also threw it out when I was putting on a big brass block that I bought from you. Greetings from PL-Europe. 🙂
Where where you 30 years ago...!!! Wow so simple but brilliant
Adam, what kind of finish is on this star body? I dig how it goes from purple/blue to black depending on the angle.
It is a flip flop paint finish that a motorcycle painter did for me. Super cool finish! Thanks for noticing Scott!
Hi , can I use the open low E to tune with the screwdriver instead of the A string ? Just curious why A string ?
I didn’t know this Metal shim was a tone sucker... i have a new brass block to install so i will take that shim out of my OFR ;)
I didn’t know that either. I took it out when I put in my big block. I feel like it dropped the back of the tremolo closer to the body though. Maybe I’m wrong. Anyone know? Working with an EVH Wolfgang fender
I've been using the spring installer/remove wrong this whole time!
Pure gold here!!!!
Do you need anti-seize compound for the Ti parts?
Duuuuuude 🤘
good shit right here!!!
Thank you
Hey, would you recommend removing that trash spacer on all guitars with Floyd Rose, or just when doing this mod? Great video btw, learned more from this than anything ever tbh
I put tape on to mark the saddle positions
Every person that's new to using a Trem system, should watch this video. I always see people panic, and I'm like ...it's not that hard guys!
I have a big block on my Schecter, and it made the guitar much brighter, and clearer under high gain. Have some noiseless springs on the way! Then she will be complete! But then...I have to start on my OTHER Floyd. 😂😂
Hey, when you say the saddles are radiused to the neck, is that your FU Bridge?
Floyds are flat correct?
In that case they get shimmed?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for the great Video. I purchased an Alnicov GAQ405 big block , the trem hole has a black plastic insert , not sure how to get it in. Its seems larger than the hole in the block. is there an end that goes in first ? and do yo tap it in.? I'm of the school of Never force. I don't see how the trem arm will stay pushed in ...or threaded into the hole. The hole appears to be smooth and loose without the plastic sleeve. With the sleeve in ...is it just friction that holds the arm? a bit over my head on this mod. Thanks , appreciate any suggestions or comments
I was awaiting the tone sucking shim. I take them out, but curious what their function is supposed to be... besides sucking tone. 🤣
It's there to make sure the spring has tension near the base, but with the big block it's not necessary. I take the spring out too, it's also not necessary.
@@ScottyBrockway I collect them. Eventually, I have enough to replace a block entirely with stacked shims. That's when the tone becomes so negative that it's positive again.
@@qaawale LOL :D
@@qaawale 😂😂😂🤣
Hahaaaaa !!!
Hi sir, did you use the existing screw from edge block? Or you buy a new one for futone?? Thanks
Hey Adam myfriend, I have a 2021 Jem Jr. which I installed the big brass block to increase the sustainability of it and it helped some. What else can I do to bring it up to snuff??? It has the least sustain of ever guitar of 25 I own including a peavey Rockmaster!
Great video thanks
put it back together and noticed the saddles aren't resting/laying flat.
The saddles are angles/slanted upward a bit.
Its like the tension bracket thingy is slightly pushing up against the string lock screws
Not allowing the saddles to lay flat/flush once you screw the string lock screws in.
Before I start bending the tension bracket to allowing the saddles to lay flat/flush.
Got any suggestions recommendations, before I reshape something that doesn't need to be?
I haven't put the floyd back into the guitar yet because I noticed the issue at hand.
This is a new unboxed floyd with the instalaation of the new hardware upgrade/s.
Thanks
I had a similar issue. I’m not sure how to resolve it. Please let me know what you find out.
I took out that plate and threw it away like Adam did. I was curious if that was part of the issue. I’m assuming Adam has done this million times and is right, but can anyone else speak to removing that plate. It puts the tail of the Floyd rose slightly closer to the body I think. I am dealing with an EVH fender Wolfgang
@@erickimm5150
Don't know if your issue was/is the same as mine.
Regarding my issue I did.
I very "slightly" gave each (whatever they are called, part of the bracket thingy's that touch the lock screws) a bend until the saddles lay flat.
seriously it doesn't take much to bend them.
Very thin material.
Just enough of a bend where the saddles begin to touch, lay flat. Don't over bend. if you do over bend, bend them back up and re-bend till you get it right.
Be gentle.
Also, after I bent them.
I made sure the lock screws even all the way across. You don't want any of the lock screws uneven, straight/even all the way across. You want tension on the lock screws because they work with the fine turners.
But not like a see saw.
That's exactly what mine my saddles were like.
A freaking see saw, absolutely unacceptable to me.
I will in the future be replacing and upgrading the bracket/plate with a titanium one. Get rid of the cheap flimsy piece. Not much better then a tin can.
I could not find anything on youtube about my scenario. I guess nobody had a problem with too much tension on the the lock screws, pushing up the lock screws. Apparently I was one of the first.
I am extremely dissapointed that you guys do not have any Base plate replacements.... for leftys especially. What do i gotta do???
🤟🏻 🌟 🤟
I mark mine with a sharpie
how do I know what size big block to get? is there a way to find out without removing my bridge?
What is that little “tone-suck” shim used for in the first place… it must have a purpose?
though. Doesn't F.U. TONE carry string retainers or bridge shims? I need both and you don't carry either.
I am not questioning your expertise here but trying to understand that which I don't understand. So, why did I not see during this setup a check of neck relief?
How do I know which size to choose? 😅
Will these fit the shaller lockmeister ?
Yes, just put one on mine a few days ago.
Is the process just as easy with the Ibanez Edge II Zero?
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😂 Good one!
You look and sound like Paul Hayman.
What’s the size of that brass block?
can you mark the plate or make a template for the saddle position as it's original in tune harmonics set up??
Your better to do as he says so your intonation is close ...then tune up and do each strings intonation and retune as you go.
Aren’t you better off just buying a Floyd hot rod ?
The one thing I've found about trying to use the same strings is, your strings tend to indent slightly from your frets when you've first installed them, then when you go to set them up again... those small indents won't match up where they were... leading to intonation and tuning issues. I always just install a brand new set.
I really wouldn't let this guy tie my boots!
… until 10 seconds later, when it’s out of tune again… and several more times going back-and-forth. Floating is hardly worth it, you’ll see after a few years, ha ha.😝🤘🏻🎸
I have no idea why but I really don't trust this guy, I have no reason not to but it's just the fuckin feeling I got ever since the first time I seen him. Nice and trusting of me, right? Oh well...
by the way ...this is not a Floyd rose bridge/trem. it a standard 6 point bridge.