Brand New Buggy Body Fitted to Undercarriage | Engels Coach Shop
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- Sometimes details show some unsolved mysteries. Fitting this new buggy body to the undercarriage reveals that this body may not have been designed for this gear. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often takes us down unsolvable mysterious paths that we may never find the answers to. Events often affect these vehicles, and changes are made, and we may never know how or why. I'm thinking this is the case with this buggy restoration project. This week, and next week, start to show some telltale signs that something is amiss.
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THE OLD SAYING) you cannot teach a old dog new tricks ? I have worked with building materials up until now at 69 year of age I just learned how to center a paddle bit in a hole that needs to be drilled bigger. Thank you Mr. Engels
Freakin' genius. I was wondering "what's with the dowel???"
Try it with a hole saw! Especially on something like teak or mahogany. Make a form or keep the hole from the form, either way depending on the circumstances. Screw the form or hole down as a guide & away you go, yeah!
The man, is simply, a joy to behold.
@@jeffwisemiller3590 Yes - thank you Sir
@@graybeard1952 as I Sir
That dowel trick with a paddle it is pure genius!
American craftsmanship at the highest level ! Thank you !
I wish I was in a better place financially. I would come over from the UK and take you and Rick over the road for a pint in appreciation of what you both contribute to our Friday nights.
Not to the "Frontier Bar"...? Make it a Friday, and I'll be there too.
Not to the "Frontier Bar"...? Make it a Friday, and I'll be there too.
I like the trick of using the dowel to center the spade bit!
Thought that was rather slick.
Thanks Mr. Engel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought for sure... here comes a hex nut! ... I was wrong. Kudos to Dave.
HI VERY VERY GOOD..😎👍 GOODBYE....FROM SPAIN...
There's something satisfying about watching an artisan using carriage bolts on, well, a carriage.
Now I understand where the name came from!
Brings to mind a certain Johnny Cash song about a Cadillac😉. I’m sure your wagon will look more professionally assembled though 😊. It would be interesting to know the back story on how this collection of wagon parts got together. I’ve really enjoyed the series showing construction. As always, thank you for documenting, saving, and sharing your trade with the world😊
I am 70. Been building in wood all my life. I knew those carriage bolt from the time before I was in Kindergarten. I knew that were called that because they were used in carriages. I have used 10,000 over my lifetime. I just told my wife, before reading Thermal Reboot's comment, that I am finding it so disturbing to see a carriage bolt being used to construct a carriage. I never expected to see them used this way. It is just upsetting to my emotions to see carriage bolts used on, well, a carriage.
Adaptability can make things interesting. Thanks for the look.
Whew, seeing the upper wagon merge with the wheel carriage was an eye opener. That is going to be one sweet looking buggy when your done with it.
Beautiful work
Brilliant work.
this buggy is going to be awesome!
Mutt or not, it still looks gorgeous. I painted cars all my life and can't wait to see it all done.
Couple great tricks of the trade I picked up in this one. Thanks Dave!
I like that wooden dowel trick to use a paddle drill in an existing hole. I’ll have to remember that.
That old mowing machine brings back memories of mind numbing boredom with the occasional fright when a flock of pheasants would take off just ahead of it. And some really bad cases of sunburn on my arms and neck...
My brother broke the handle off a manure fork, then stabbed it into the ground with the intention of retrieving it later which never happened. Of course the hay grew up hiding the broken fork. Eventually Pop goes out with the side mower to mow the hay and you guessed it. Things were a bit tense on the farm that day.
I remember stopping a 6 bottom land plot to avoid running over a family of killdeer, momma running in circles with a ‘broken wing’ and 5 or 6 tiny puffballs running around her. Of course, they eventually run into the unturned sod and so were right back in front of me after a single up and down on the field. Must have put an extra 50 hours on the clutch stopping that plough and then getting it moving again.
I always kept an eye out for a rabbit nest or young pheasants with my Ford 9N and 501 mower. The tractor having many pre-owners exhibited a flattened grille with both side hinges fractured from pushing hay wagons up barn hills. Working on a Saturday afternoon sunburn I heard a metallic sound, I had just run over the grille forming a clam shell as the hinges finally fractured. I bought a poor replacement (Chinese welded flat rods and panels) but never installed until I could get a proper replacement with the vertical vee crown down to the proper paint color from Dennis Carpenter.
This series is coming down to you have turned into the Buggy Street Rodder of Montana by the masterful marriage of quality components!
My Uncle had a contract with the township in PA to mow the sides of the roads back when I was 14. (now pushing 70) I spent many an hour on the ol' H mowing those roads in the sun with that mower! Such good memories!
Always learn something new every day. Dowel in hole!!
Saved watching Dave until Saturday morning having breakfast, best ever start to the day.
Like a giant jigsaw puzzle!!
I could watch all day long. Stay well my friend.
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Nice trick to countersink the nuts. I learned something again. Thanks.
There are people who are specialists in 1 certain area & then there's Mr. Engels. Having built carriages of every size, shape & manufacturer, he can recognize which pieces came from where & how they can be reassembled. Sort of like trying to make a Frankenbuggy but in a good way.
Precisely said Jeff.👍
wow that wagon is a real piece of art made by an artisan great work as usual
Makes my Saturday!
this is the earliest restomod i have ever seen where you start with an original vehicle and then update it with better parts makes the car people thinking they had a new idea seem way behind the times LOL but much easier to mod this up than a car .
The dowel to center the paddle bit was next level. Love your channel.
I expect I'll never have a need for it, but the trick for centering that spade bit was pretty cool.
I wish your content had been around when I was younger. We had a pony trap and wagons that eventually went too far to repair, after many years of good use. You have made lockdowns very pleasurable Dave, thank you
Fantastic, an old-timers hot-rod. Take what you have and make it work.
Thats teh mark of a good builder. Take what you have and make it work.
Clever way of hanging those rollers on a side spring. I haven't seen that done. Yes, it certainly will flip you over. The front wheels on mine were a bit small, and the roller hit high on the tire. It wanted to tip even with the roller, although I did learn that if you turned fast enough with no load on the back, you could drift the back end and that helped. I think you are right about that being two wagons put together. I think that might have been the equivalent of an old work truck that someone put a different motor in to keep it going. Might also explain him ditching the top. He didn't want a top in the way for hauling milk cans to town, and that is all he wanted the old "truck" for.
Great way to "bolster perfection"! Another great vid.
David, I wait patiently every week for you to post a new video. I enjoy them and watching you do what you do best and kind enough to share with all of us what you do and with this buggy. Thank you for sharing.
Very true words Rick.
I went back and watched the restoring of the undercarriage -- Oct of 2018. For some reason I didn't watch it at the time. Very sophisticated setup, compared to the wagons you've been making or fixing since then. Fitting that it should be episode 0 of this buggy story.
I missed that too (might have discovered the channel a bit too late). Will have to go watch that!
Just had to watch this again !! So interesting !!
Wasn’t aware until you demonstrated, wagon makers need to master Tetris!
Fantastic craftsmanship, Its like putting a puzzle together, except you have to make all the pieces. Posterity will revere these video lessons.
Once again thanks for the video.
Making it work! great to see it in action, gives hope to us lessor mortals that even the best have to Make it Work sometimes.
Wonderful seeing this buggy transformed ... I really appreciate your skills and creative solutions and always learn a bit or two...I have a 1962 British sunbeam that had a very week transmission. I put in a 1980s W58 Toyota 5 speed that i retrofitted to it by cutting the bell housing by spinning it around on a drill press with a metal cutting disk in it set to high speed (surprisingly accurate) and then welding up a plate to accommodate the new trans to the original engine with a custom clutch and drive shaft made locally..I also welded up the original shifter to the Toyota unit to have it come out the same place inside the car.. I can now drive highways speeds without worry and have for 8 years on long trips with no problems at all,. But someone is going to be very confused when i sell it ...HA!
Always fascinating, Mr. Engle. Thanks for posting!
Fit refit fit and refit fit and finely fit the fit....An that about about how it fits l reckon the fit fits....Thanks young man....An l might add l like the final fit of the fits OK...!
Another Dave Engel classic. Concise explanations combined with artisanal craftsmanship make for an educational and entertaining video, a true pleasure to watch. God bless, Dave!
Oh so true Bill.
I just used a paddle bit on some expensive hardwood, to build a piece of furniture. I drilled through a block glued onto the edge of a board. The goal was to come out centered in the edge of the board. I succeeded four out of four times, drilling freehand. Am am the same age as Rodney Wroten. Lots of experience.
Sure do like this. Can't wait till next week. Thanks
i like that tip using a wooden dowel for the drill bit
Hi Friend great video have a day love from TEXAS
Beautiful buggy
Lovin' that dowel trick for drilling in the center of a preexisting hole! Gonna remember that one. THANKS!
I agree. That is slick. There have been times I wish I had known that.
Y'all must have been watching Jay Leno's Garage :D
Funny all the useful stuff in the shop that we don't notice til you go to use it.
I look forward to your videos on Friday. You are enjoying to watch. Your thought method is is so right on. Thank you.
Brakes and Suspension, basically the Midas of the old west... would you like a front end alignment with that ma'am???
Dave, you need to raise the ceiling in the shop about 20 feet and put a conveyor system up there to move stuff around.
Oh gooood idea. Dave contact Amazon. Get them to come out and reorganize your space into an Amazon Warehouse, complete with robots. I bet you can get it done for $10,000,000.
The dowl in the bolt hole was a cute trick!
Thanks Dave
I'm amazed at the ingenuity that went into the design of these buggies!! Thanks for sharing, Dave - and another great job!
So true,and we have a guy like Dave that’s so passionate about them too.🙂
You have to tip your hats to our ancestors. The designs are so good that it made it possible to conquer and subdue the whole rough craggy world.
Growing up on the farm, when things broke, ....you fixed it. During haying season, that old mower with the hardwood pitman arm, and under heavy hay , would break! Most of the time we had a spare; but not always. Sometimes you had to rob Peter to pay Paul.
Love the videos!
Gary
Oooh... Love that trick of inserting a dowel into the bolt hole so you can center the spade bit and use it to counter sink the nut. I don't know if I will ever use that myself but it's nice to have in the back of my mind.
Dave, A Request. I’m sure I’m not the only one that would like this future video. How about stripping down your pick-up to the frame and then rebuilding it the way a pick-up should really be built.
I don’t envy you in that nightmare situation Dave, I bet this irritated your methodical and perfectionist brain, I certainly would do mine.
Great video, enjoyed it. Am ready to see the finished product. Going to look great.
Like any fabrication project, unforseen obstacles are a given. You handle obstacles so effortlessly, it's pure artistry.
Up late and watching, rapt as usual. What struck me was that once you fitted the body to the undercarriage, there was the form for the early horseless carriage... Thank you again, Mr Engle.
Huh. Ya know, something struck my eye about there and I know what you mean, but didn't put it into words til I saw your comment.
Dave, i mentioned your channel in a Car Club newsletter as we have several cars from the 1920's with custom one off built buggy style tops.
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i had a club member phone to ask me where i keep finding such brilliant websites, he has been binge watching your channel for a week.
Thanks for another interesting video.
The manual lift procedure: priceless. And at the same time: on point.
Kinda reminded me of Gertrude and Heathcliff.
A gym machine! 🤣
Reminds me of the 1965 Volvo engine I fitted into a 1960 Volvo 240 Saloon body. One problem there was the radiator's cold water return was on the opposite side. Used the U-shaped leg prop tube from an old chaise lounge to take the water to the other side. It hung below so I meant it to be just a temp fix, but never got around to replacing it. Drove logging roads, stream beds, etc for the next eight years and then sold it to someone who might have wondered "how'd that happen?"
This the first episode that I have seen the frame with the come alongs attached. Ingenious.
Lots too comment on.
How many watching, when that first countersink didn't allow the nut to be tightened, anticipated either (a) that Dave would have a tool for the job or (b) that he'd go and make one, as he certainly could. Some sort of four fingered socket? It seemed to me that drilling a larger countersink was a compromise reluctantly settled on.
Every video I watch I feel like I learn some little trick and see some sort of adapt and overcome. It is nice to see a true craftsman making art.
It has been long time seen undercarriage and I forgot about it. 🤦 It is now looking like a buggy, hard to see it with just the body. :) Thank you.
It looks like doing a test fit of the body to the running gear turned out to be a good idea.
“Designed originally.” So diplomatic. Thanks for the video.
I watch in awe! I will will take that dowel for centering the spade, and give you one; you should always pull TOWARDS the jaw on the adjustable prybar! Be well!
I've just watched this video for the second time as it is so facinately interesting !! The minutest detail needs to be so precise - especially on the braking system !! What a Craftsman !!
Just have to comment.
Usually when you know you need a countersink, you make the countersink first then, using the centre left by the spade bit, drill the hole for the bolt.
But, not realising till later that a countersink is needed, going in without any material to centre the bit is going to chew up the wood badly.
One way round this is to use the spade bit to bore a hole through a piece of scrap and then clamp the scrap centred over the bolt hole and use that as a guide. Here, though, there is no way to clamp it. It could be screwed or nailed into the right position but that would leave screw holes in the otherwise pristine finish. Yes, they can be plugged and hidden by the paint but Dave would know they were there under the paint.
So today I learned a new way but suspect Dave didn't show all. Yes, you could simply drop in a dowel. But if it is too loose then as you locate the spade bit centre, the dowel will simply back off and you cannot be sure to get a good centre.
Then too, if it is loose enough to move, putting it in from the top, it will simply fall out. Now I might just put a nail through the top but not Dave. This is not a simple dowel. It looks to me as if he has found a piece of 1/2" dowel, chucked it in a lathe and turned the shank to get the right fit. Now, if that is a snug fit, then the spade bit will centre ok but as you drill the countersink, it might turn the end off the dowel meaning you need four of them.
Alternatively with the right resistance the spade bit will centre properly in the dowel but with just enough resistance that as the countersink is drilled the Doral will lift in the hole and can be used again and again. One way to do this would be to rest a convenient piece of metal on top of the cap on the dowel. How heavy? Well you have several different lumps of metal and you try each one to see, with the drill off, which one allows the bit to centre firmly but will lift as you drill.
Now I wonder what Dave actually did.
Ps if this is what it takes to be a master, fussing over the best way to use one dowel instead of four, and turned on a lathe as appears to be the case, then that's what it is.just another example of the.mind set,that self confessed element of OCD, that makes a great craftsman into what the Japanese would call a. "national living treasure".
Great idea the small wooden dowel to center the flat drill. At 71 I learned something useful. Thanks Mister Engels
*- I always so very much enjoy watching you contrive a fix & fit for anything & everything that is obstinate.*
*- Your videos always make my day, Dave. Thank you.*
It’s Friday already and I’m watching the latest episode from Montana. I like! I always looking forward to your episodes. Greeting from south Sweden.
I agree with you mate,greetings from Australia👍
And greetings from the Netherlands !
Kind of like a buggy shop /gym .
Also was shown how to Re drill a hole.
Cool move with the dowel.
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Seeing the whole thing go together, I still think the other seat was more elegant...
Great job . IT will work.
Every video you teach me something new. As the other comments mentioned that dowel / drill trick was all new to me!
I've been watching your videos for quite some time, and I always find them to be very interesting and educational. I'm impressed by your knowledge, ingenuity, and skills, but the most impressive thing is the patient way you respond to (and solve) problems. I would be cursing and pulling my hair out. You're setting a great example for how we can deal with life's ups and downs, and so after every video I feel a little bit better prepared for everything that life throws at me: remain calm, get a clear understanding of the problem, consider my options, choose the best one, and proceed step by step. Thank you for taking the time to make and post these videos. They're unlike anything else I've seen on TH-cam, and the world would be a poorer place without them.
Absolutely - to that right 👍 !!
Your job is awesome
Thanks for sharing
Up grading the Suspension and Brakes is always a good thing.
Watching you merge what was a loose pile of parts from at least two or three buggies into one has been impressive. At least you don't have a combination of standard and metric hardware to deal with too! 😁
I saw that square nut in the round hope problem right off the bat, but then I said to myself what's he doing with the dowel? That trick looks like it worked like a dream!
Getting it done, looking nice. Thanks.
Time for a parade,Beautiful,just plain beautiful.
The spade bit trick is new one for me, something that I will use in the future if the need arises, Very clever and basic, why couldn't I have thought of that. Bravo.
Excellent job Dave, you definitely know how to adapt the adapters to the carriage. The original builder would have done it just like you did if he had the knowledge. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👋👋
Another excellent Friday taping at the Engels coach shop.... thank you very much Mr Engels.. enjoy your weekend sir 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🕊🕊🕊🕊😊😊😊😊👍👍
Hi Dave ☺, thanks for another interesting video, and yes your quite right about older vehicles of all types being marriages of bits and bobs of others to keep them going , we call them a liquorice all sort, lol. I smiled when you used the dowel to centre the flat bit, genius, then chuckled as the square nut went beyond reach in the hole, I've been there once or twice, when I had occasion to use some square head coach screws, the only sockets I had were bi-hex, or 12 point, but they got me out of trouble. The buggy's coming along nicely, I'm looking forward to seeing the next episode, stay safe mate, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.
Thank you!
That was some mighty fine countersinking.
Thanks for the great tip on how to recentre a Spade Bit. Your method works better than mine. Someone has a great Custom Buggy with many improvements. Sadly most of the Corner Joinery is covered up.