How Does Arcane Work? | Making A Build - Chapter 9 | Elden Ring

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    After researching Arcane and understanding all of its characteristics, it is my opinion that this is the best Stat in Elden Ring. It does so many things that are so important. It can be the Primary Stat in a pure build, or it can work perfectly with any other one in a Hybrid build. It is effective for melee build and spellcasting builds and it also provides good utility. You can't go wrong with it. Let's take a look at the reasons.
    CONTENTS
    0:00 Introduction
    1:02 Weapon and Spell Requirements
    2:08 Weapon Damage Scaling Soft Caps
    5:37 Spellcasting Damage Scaling Soft Caps
    7:08 Status Effect Scaling Soft Caps
    13:32 Discovery - The Basics -
    16:09 Discovery - Deep Dive - (Warning: Heavy Math)
    27:07 Specific Effects: Holy Defense and Vitality
    29:00 Outro
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  • @dizzzave357
    @dizzzave357 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This video feels exactly like a college lecture. Never thought I'd sit through a 30 minute lesson on an Elden Ring stat.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m happy that you watched the whole thing. It means a lot to me. And I hope that you were able to learn something new or get inspiration for a build. Thank you for being here.

    • @beardfistthegoldenone7273
      @beardfistthegoldenone7273 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a new character after this video (arcane, of course). I have 4 already maxed at different pvp meta lvls. I'm not sure how to feel bout this.

    • @tgab3301
      @tgab3301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol!!! I was just thinking… “This guy has got to be a teacher or college professor”. Excellent presentation sir. Appreciate the info and content!

  • @jasongriffin1517
    @jasongriffin1517 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I beat Elden Beast 20 minutes ago and came here looking for this because I wanted to Respec for NG+ . Thank you sir! Your guides have been an amazing asset to me.

    • @beardfistthegoldenone7273
      @beardfistthegoldenone7273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congratulations! I hope the elden beast fight didn't make you lose too much of your sanity!

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      First of all, congratulations. Beating the game is an achievement on its own. I am also happy that you found the guides useful. I really appreciate your comment and kind words.

    • @jasongriffin1517
      @jasongriffin1517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beardfistthegoldenone7273 Radagon/Beast was harder than Malenia or Fire Giant. So frustrating.

    • @jasongriffin1517
      @jasongriffin1517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FrownyGaming Thank you for the content. You were one of the first channels I found when I started playing, I've been here ever since.

    • @SlimedogNumbaSixty9
      @SlimedogNumbaSixty9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasongriffin1517 no way radagon and elden beast were so much easier than fire giant for me lol, in fact fire giant is where I gave up for a period of time to complete everything else I could in the game
      STR/FAITH

  • @katanamaru1
    @katanamaru1 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Ah yeah the arcane break down is here! I have a little notebook of Elden Ring info and I use your videos' info to make notes. I had a spot for arcane and was waiting to fill it in.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow! That's awesome. It makes me proud that I can contribute to your information. Thank you for your comment and kind words.

  • @mklptrk
    @mklptrk ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the deep dive here! Nearing the end of my first playthrough as an INT/FTH hybrid build and, while I’m hesitant to finish because I don’t want the fun to end, I’m also looking forward to NG+ in order to explore other builds and systems. As it’s the most esoteric and unique stat in my opinion I’m leaning toward a respec with heavy investment in ARC. Your guides are extremely thorough - I haven’t found any better - thanks for the heavy maths!

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I appreciate your comment and kind words. I am happy that you found the video useful.

  • @monolith_g
    @monolith_g ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I needed exactly this at this exact time. Thank you

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to see that the video was helpful. Thank you for your comment.

  • @michiganjack1337
    @michiganjack1337 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m definitely guilty of under utilizing this stat. Great informative and easy to listen to. Thank you.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can relate to that. Generally, I barely used Arcane for anything. Now that I researched it for this video, I took advantage of the information to make a few Arcane-based builds. I will be uploading them little by little. Thank you for your comment.

  • @droopybeagle
    @droopybeagle ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are amazingly presented, very informative yet keeping it concise and understandable. Thanks! I’m really learning the game more rather than blindly following builds.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am happy to hear that. It means a lot to me that you are finding the videos useful. Thank you for your comment and kind words.

  • @johnhinckley6491
    @johnhinckley6491 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for all of the hard work you put into this video, this information is incredibly useful keep up the good work!!

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I am glad that you enjoyed the video and I appreciate your comment.

  • @ramen7998
    @ramen7998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're back! Hope you had a great journey with GOWR. I'm ready for more ER excellent content.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      GOWR was a fantastic game and I enjoyed it a lot. Definitely worth playing. But now I have to return to Elden Ring. It calls to me and there is a lot to go over. Thank you for your patience and your support.

  • @tonyogar6936
    @tonyogar6936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video as always Frowny.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I appreciate your comment and kind words.

  • @Darthwriter
    @Darthwriter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the vid. Very inciteful. Makes me want to do an Arcane focused build.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      You definitely should. I began to make builds after doing all of the research and it is very fun. You can make some very interesting set-ups. Thank you for your comment.

  • @kevinmiller7408
    @kevinmiller7408 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, I wish I would have found this sooner. It sure clears some things up for a Faith/Arcane build I've been running, time to go clean that build up a little bit.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      FTH/ARC is a really strong build type. I am making one now and it is very fun. I am happy that you enjoyed the video. Thank you for your comment.

  • @MrBooooomer
    @MrBooooomer ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx for all your Guides/Explainations my friend :)
    Wish you a healthy and well new year!
    Greetings from rainy north Germany!

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Likewise! Thank you for your comment and Happy New Year.

  • @epruno3583
    @epruno3583 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent, wow. You are what the wiki should be.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your words mean a lot to me. Thank you for your comment and kind words.

    • @epruno3583
      @epruno3583 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FrownyGaming *thank you* for the quality videos!

  • @harrysynnott2379
    @harrysynnott2379 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Cheers, Harry.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I appreciate your comment and kind words.

  • @biggleazy
    @biggleazy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great breakdowns, Frowny. Never quite realized how significant Arcane could be. I had it relatively low on my first character, maybe about 15 just for some dragon incantations, but I'm even more curious about using it more now.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was in a similar situation. I "knew" what Arcane did and how powerful it was, but it wasn't until I truly sat down with it that I noticed just how much it did and how well it did everything. It's really fun too. Thank you for your comment.

  • @VultureXV
    @VultureXV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Arcane Builds:
    The Homunculus.
    No spells, no magic save for the minor magic found on some weapons. Heavy status utilization; Frostbite, Poison of all flavors, Rot, Bleed. Kindred of Rot Exultation, Lord of Blood Exultation, Rotten Sword Insignia, 1 free spot (usually Greatshield talisman for protection because I'm bad). Dual Thrusting Swords (ideally Antspurs) One with poison moth flight, the other free handed. 20 pots, 10 ritual pots, 10 perfume vials.
    +The build is item-heavy and crafting-heavy. Any elemental type is accessible, any status debuff is accessible.
    +KoREx, LoBEx, and Rotten Sword all stack giving a grand total of ~+60% added AR which might not sound much for dual rapiers, but is actually a wee bit absurd.
    +Poison Moth ash is basically a secondary bleed to refresh KoREx.
    +Frost ritual pots + volcano pots mean regularly chunking boss' HP.
    +Deadly poison (or poison aromatic) + rot means boss HP melts between bleed/frost chunking.
    +Uplifting Aromatic is broken.
    The Dragoon.
    Dragon communion build, uses Regalia of Eochaid.
    Greyoll's Roar is one of the best spells in the game. Rot into Frost into Fire breathing. Honestly, excessively simple.
    The Vileblood.
    Taker's Cameo, Godskin Swaddling Cloth, Crimson Dagger, Lord of Blood's Exultation. I wanted to see how bleed worked on larger weapons and it didn't disappoint. Double Slash on a Knight's Greatsword is basically a death sentence. Sidearm with Blood Tax and Blood Slash. Bloodflame claws + flies as the few spells, but mostly focusing on the usage of gaining HP through abilities and ripostes before using HP as fuel for blood abilities. I wanted Chikage, but all I got was Chikage at home, ROB, so I decided to go a different route.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are very nice! I got similar builds to your Homunculus and Dragoon. Little by little, I will be uploading them. The Chikage at home got me hard, though. Well done. Thank you for your comment.

    • @the3rddimensionperception699
      @the3rddimensionperception699 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am the homunculus and I'm glad I am not alone

    • @moshehhubbard756
      @moshehhubbard756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much Arcane did you have?

    • @the3rddimensionperception699
      @the3rddimensionperception699 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moshehhubbard756 99 plus the silver scarab and silver tear mask

    • @moshehhubbard756
      @moshehhubbard756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@the3rddimensionperception699 Alright cool

  • @AegisKHAOS
    @AegisKHAOS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Samurai was my first character, and once arcane was fixed to function as intended, he practically remained a samurai up to NG+2 just because of how strong occult and bleed weapons were. Even with the status proc nerf to power stancing and seppuku taking a big nerf, arcane remains powerful ifbyour weapon scales to it.
    Also noticed the item drops from my first character compared to my other three since he was the only one I heavily invested points into arcane. Thanks for providing us with the math to go with it, as it provides more insight into how it works. Chuckled that you gave an advisory warning before getting to the math. ;p

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like math. I think it's very cool. But I also understand that a lot of people don't like it or it makes them anxious. I wanted to give them a clear opportunity to not have their day ruined.
      And you are very right about that Occult infusion. Specially on an Uchi. I am a huge fan of Occult Flamberge as well. I like how almost every weapon type has a bleed one. It gives some variety to the build type. Thank you for your comment.

  • @ErikWithBrain
    @ErikWithBrain หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good shit dude. Dunno how you only have 10k subs. Subscribed!

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน

      10k subs for me is wild. I am very happy to have reached this point. I am glad that you passed by and enjoyed the video. I appreciate your comment and support.

  • @KillerMoustache
    @KillerMoustache ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Frowny! Hope you had a good break and a Happy Holidays!

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello! Likewise. Enjoy your Holiday. Thank you for your comment.

  • @alejandro591
    @alejandro591 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always saw Arcane as a concept that only the few understand or is very mysterious in itself. Eldritch magic in fantasy worlds is a prime example. I believe that is one of the reasons arcane is attributed to discovery in Elden Ring. It allows you discover the rarest items the game can offer.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely. I also think about Insight in Bloodborne. I think that they did a fantastic job with Arcane in Elden Ring. Thank you for your comment.

    • @alejandro591
      @alejandro591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Bloodborne, Arcane functioned the same as in Elden Ring. If I remember correctly, it had a softcap of 25 points, a hardcap of 50 points and a maximum of 99 points. A few items like "A Call Beyond", "Augur of Ebrietas", and "Executioner's Gloves" scales really well with Arcane. Some of the weapons that contains materials from the outer worlds scales with Arcane. Example of those are: "Blade of Mercy", "Burial Blade", "Ludwig's Holy Blade", "Holy Moonlight Sword" (a.k.a The Moonlight Sword of FromSoftware), and "Kos Parasite". While Arcane represent the unknown knowledge and power that is outside of the user, Insight represent the depth of one's inhuman knowledge. As such, Insight is not exactly a stat used for levelling up, but rather a stat used for minor currency, to call help from other worlds, triggers certains events in the game, reduces the chances of becoming a beast but you're vulnerable to frenzy.

    • @eddiemangum2326
      @eddiemangum2326 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's also the stat that fewest players understand... or at least in my case, it was the "why would I ever level this" stat

  • @gpn962
    @gpn962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I appreciate your comment and kind words. Thank you.

  • @Wild-Instinct
    @Wild-Instinct ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for this vid sir it was very instructive

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for your comment.

  • @readytogame83
    @readytogame83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting snd very helpful thank you....oh and new sub.....yay 😀

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fantastic! I really appreciate your comment and support.

  • @lealtad4636
    @lealtad4636 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you. I appreciate your comment.

  • @melikeham4860
    @melikeham4860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man! Just one thing I'd like to point out is that you can boost arcane and discovery even higher with the silver tear mask (+8 arcane, physical damage decrease) to get 332 discovery.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately, this is not true. The Silver Tear Mask does not increase Discovery. It increases the Arcane Stat by 8, which will then increase the Discovery. It is a big difference because, if you Arcane Stat is already at 99, the Silver Tear Mask will not increase it any further. This means that your Discover won't be increased either. The Arcane Stat has a Hard Cap of 99.
      Discovery increases from Arcane cap at 99. That is why the most Discovery that we can have naturally (without equipment or consumables) is 199. Thank you for your comment.

    • @melikeham4860
      @melikeham4860 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrownyGaming My smooth brain completely forgot about the level cap. Thanks for the clarification!

  • @brandonp5
    @brandonp5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your lack of faith is disturbing- Darth Vader

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have good news. There is also a Faith video were you will find massive amounts of devotion. Thank you for your comment.

  • @THE_Number_ONE_1_HATER
    @THE_Number_ONE_1_HATER 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    26:15 golden pickle four foot and turtlenecks

  • @DietmarEugen
    @DietmarEugen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a suspicion that the effect of the seed from the pseudo-random number generator is dominant. I guess this seed is determined at the boot up of a game session, and if it's a bad seed, a high Arcane attribute is useless; if it's a good seed, even a low Arcane attribute may deliver: In one of my earliest builds I got two Noble Slender Swords with the starting Arcane attribute of the Astrologer. So rather than putting resources in Arcane just for farming purposes, I prefer to reboot the game until the drops come more often.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have no information on seed-based "table" placements. Not to confirm or deny anything. In my experience, increasing Discovery has always been useful. Sometimes it takes longer and sometimes it is faster, that is the rule with the Gods of RNG, but it has always been generally quicker if I had more Discovery. Thank you for your comment.

  • @VultureXV
    @VultureXV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing I have never understood is why FromSoft games always have those miniscule drop rates on certain items.
    A lot of some of my playtime is legit farming for some of these MMO-tier droprates... so depressing.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At this point, it's just the way they make their Souls games. Certain things will always be tedious to get. Some of them are good, and others are just really bad. I don't think there is a way around it, honestly. Thank you for your comment.

    • @DWN-024ShadowMan
      @DWN-024ShadowMan ปีที่แล้ว

      Depressing AND annoying if you ask me.

  • @stecorr70lfc44
    @stecorr70lfc44 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video on ng+6 and just respecced to arcane. Best build I've used to be fair, disappointed I didn't do it sooner

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Arcane is a very good Stat that allows you to do a lot in the game. It is perfect for hybrid builds and it can lead to many fun ideas. It’s good that you were able to build with it. Thank you for your comment.

  • @quincykunz3481
    @quincykunz3481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been having a blast with the weirdest arcane build I could come up with, and I'm very satisfied with it:
    The visionary
    Current level: 147
    V 60
    M 36 (I've been putting spare points here for a while)
    E 9
    S 8
    D 12
    I 30
    F 30
    A 49 (after silver tear mask. You could stop at 45.)
    Talismans (equip +5 faith, +5 int, godfrey icon, radagon's Icon, health/focus/stamina ambers and dragoncrest talismans as the need arises. Marika's soreseal is also an option, but it makes you a little too squishy to be useful lategame, which is when you get it.)
    This build uses the humble misericord dagger to exploit crits, and to encourage making the most of it's spellcasting over melee.
    The main armaments of this build are the albinauric staff and dragon communion seal, combining faith, intelligence, and arcane spells seamlessly into an endlessly adaptable arsenal, using arcane as a bridge between incantation and sorcery. This build can utilize all kinds of magic, and excels at briar, bubble, and dragon magic. Using all branches of magic and emphasizing spells that can hit the opponent long after they are cast (discus, bubbles, rancors, magma) makes this character's wide scope and tactical preparation truly visionary.
    Tip: because great oracular bubble moves so slowly for so long, there are may fights you can start by firing several of them at max range or just out of range, then aggro the enemy through the gauntlet of bubbles to devastating effect.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really like this idea for an ultimate caster build. My only concern is damage. At 30 / 30 INT/FTH (35's with Talismans) and just under 50 ARC, I am getting about 310 Sorcery Scaling from the Albinauric Staff and about 320 Incantation Scaling from the Dragon Communion Seal. This is "fine", but I feel that it might be too low. How is the damage of your spells? Do you ever feel that the build is weak on the numbers? I am interested in hearing about your experience. Thank you for your comment.

    • @quincykunz3481
      @quincykunz3481 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrownyGaming I'm trying to remember any places where I felt it was hurting. I didn't use any summons at any point to push the build....
      While you miss 10-20% damage compared to a more focused casting build, that's the difference of about one buff, which is hardly the end of the world.
      Running around volcano manor early to pick up the staff was spooky, but after that, it felt good. I used the serpent coil shield and poison ashes of war early, but I dropped them for more focus on spells pretty fast. When something didn't work well against an enemy, there was always something else I could switch to that solved the problem. Big enemies are shredded by pest threads and dragon lightning, smaller targets die to slicer and discs pretty fast. rot breath and gavel/dragonclaw for evasive people. I didn't use briars much but they were incredible against godskin duo. Even Greyoll's roar came in handy when I knew I would be surrounded. The misericorde with glintblade phalanx, redmanes, or bloody slash can pitch in as well. The only enemies that I noticed were roadblocks were briar knights, and malenia, who I unfortunately still haven't beaten solo.

  • @xenosayain1506
    @xenosayain1506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome back to elden ring. I'll leave a feedback comment once I'm done watching:)

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I look forward to it! I appreciate your support.

  • @oddpooka2
    @oddpooka2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arcane is such a versatile stat that my biggest problem with it is I can't decide HOW I want to build around it. With the fix to the Roar Medallion to affect the Dragon breath spells now, it would be really cool to make a Strength/Faith/Arcane hybrid to combine it with the roar Ashes of War. These ashes are one of the few ways you can buff Blood/Poison/Occult armaments, and the motion values make your charged heavy attacks deal even more status buildup. The problem is in order to take advantage of the hyper-armor these ashes give, you need good defense to survive trading, so high vigor and endurance is ideal. But then another problem is that dragon spells require a lot of FP, so you want to level mind, too. When you combine those with having to level three attacking stats, trying to make a build like this work feels like you'll always be lacking somewhere... so many ways to style on enemies, so few stat points. What's a Tarnished to do?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a Dragon Cleric build that runs 27 FTH 60 ARC 38 MND. I keep STR at 12 for an Occult Morning Star. Of course, I run the Roar Medallion. This let's me take advantage of Bleed through the Occult Morning Star; it lets me take advantage of Dragon Communion Incantations; and the Roar Medallion takes boost both my Roar Ash of War and my Dragon Breaths. It has been working very well so far. It will be one of the next builds I will make a guide for. Thank you for your comment.

  • @THE_Number_ONE_1_HATER
    @THE_Number_ONE_1_HATER 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20:49 I’m taking college calculus right now you’re asking for too much😂

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not going to lie, if you are taking college calculus then you know more math that I do. Thank you for your comment.

  • @50thgz
    @50thgz ปีที่แล้ว

    When starting NG+ is it better to start with your new weapon with no upgrades or level it to +10 before starting?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Going into NG+ means that you will be repeating the game at a higher difficulty. I definitely recommend going in with an upgraded weapon. Thank you for your comment.

  • @jashin888
    @jashin888 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have with bleed and poison affinity on my Raptors Talon and Curved swords Even if I don't have Occult afftinity does the status still build quicker when I have 37 ARC ?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Blood and Poison infusions give the weapon the Status Effect AND Arcane Scaling. This meets the required criteria for scaling status application. As you level up your Arcane stat, you will see the passive effect application increase. Thank you for your comment.

    • @jashin888
      @jashin888 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrownyGaming thanks for responding to my comment this helps me out so much

  • @puntacana7550
    @puntacana7550 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will arcane stat work on normal strength weapon with bleed armament buff on?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. Bloodflame Blade provides a static bleed over time effect that is not affected by Arcane Scaling. Thank you for your comment.

  • @Pepper138
    @Pepper138 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used a silver foot in between kills while farming the mausoleum Knight 54 times. (I wanted the mausoleum set & some runes to get another level, I needed 22k). The knight gave me about 400 runes each kill. The silver foot lasted for I believe about 18 kills and about every 2 to 3 kills I got an item. I even got two items in one kill once. When I was not under the influence of the silver foot, I barely got an item to drop (maybe 1 item every 7 kills). 54 kills netted me these drops : 4 shields, 2 armors, 2 gauntlets, 2 boots, and 3 swords. Out of those drops, I recorded that 2 gauntlets, 2 shields, 2 swords, 1 armor, and 1 boot dropped within those 18 kills with the silver foot. 8 out of 13 drops was during that window with the silver foot. I only have 25 arcane and no scarab talisman. Looks like the silver foot alone boosted my drop rate by triple the amount. So, I believe this formula you have created is incorrect.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am afraid that you are mistaken.
      The problem here is that you sample pool is much too small in order to obtain a good conclusion. 54 total kills (18 at 75 Discovery and 36 at 25 Discovery) is not enough to make this kind of determination.
      The formula in the video is proven to work. Furthermore, there are drop rate calculators created by other researchers that use this exact same formula with great success. Personally, I probably reached over a thousand total kills on different enemies in order to test the variations from an increased Discovery. Due to these reasons, there is a much more complete empirical base that supports the equations found in the video.
      Thank you for your comment.

    • @Pepper138
      @Pepper138 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrownyGaming Do you have a site / source for base drop rates for all items?

  • @Laid2Sleep
    @Laid2Sleep ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Subbed.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I appreciate your support.

  • @joeschmo2693
    @joeschmo2693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't the base drop chance for thin beast bones actually .625?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, but that is expressed in decimals. When you transfer it to percentage values, it is 62.5%. It is a common drop.
      Thank you for your comment.

  • @rod4309
    @rod4309 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:05 i love charts! show me all the charts!

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you like charts, then I recommend you check out the video in the channel about all the Soft Caps. It is nothing but charts. Thank you for your comment.

  • @senzosanjuro1769
    @senzosanjuro1769 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does 'dragon communion seal' increase 'golden vow' % buff ?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No. Buff incantation cannot have the base % increase value affected. Thank you for your comment.

    • @senzosanjuro1769
      @senzosanjuro1769 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FrownyGaming thanks for the answer 👍

  • @kenshin391
    @kenshin391 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does Arcane scale well with Keen Nagakiba?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keen Nagakiba does not benefit from Arcane at all. It will only receive additional damage from DEX and the bleed passive will not be affected. For this purpose, I recommend an Occult Nagakiba. Both its damage AND status application would scale with ARC in this case. Thank you for your comment.

  • @machomanalexyt5736
    @machomanalexyt5736 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time I've ever seen a serious warning on a video for math lol

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all viewers are the same. Some don't like the numbers and I can respect that. Hopefully the warning serves to give everyone a chance to enjoy the video as they prefer and get the information they need. Thank you for your comment.

  • @Diamond1234548
    @Diamond1234548 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    actually, in regards to discovery, my biggest questions was, why did they choose to make it that way?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have no idea as to the reason. This is just the way it is. Thank you for your comment.

  • @TheXyxy2
    @TheXyxy2 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Does Arcane increases the damage of bleed\poison procs?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      It does not. It increases the application. So... you can apply bleed/poison faster, but the damage is always the same.

    • @TheXyxy2
      @TheXyxy2 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@FrownyGaming
      Thank, I am trying shield+spear build.
      Cross-naginata with poison art of war,
      So the weapon scales with Arcane and applies both bleed and poison.

  • @JesseThomson-zb9nl
    @JesseThomson-zb9nl ปีที่แล้ว

    Put a blood ash of war or infuse a ash of war with bleed and put it on a twin blade

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      That will definitely lead to fast Bleed procs. Thank you for your comment.

  • @Eredrim_the_goober
    @Eredrim_the_goober 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahhhh so this is what that one type of math in 6th grade one day was for

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty much! I don't use much math in my day-to-day life and job. Most of the knowledge I have came from studying game mechanics. Monter Hunter is the one that taught me the most. Motion values, EFR, etc. It's actually funny how much math I learned by not studying math. I just studied video games. thank you for your comment.

  • @nuggettscout5715
    @nuggettscout5715 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so 60 is basically the best spot for it

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not necessarily. So... if you are looking for weapon AR, then 60 is a good level. That said, if you are looking for status effect application, I would stop at 45. The additional status effect application scaling from levels 45 to 60 is negligible. Hope this helps. Thank you for your comment.

    • @nuggettscout5715
      @nuggettscout5715 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FrownyGamingyea you’re right. I settled on regalia of eochaid. But I stopped at 55 arcane for 600AR. 5more points only gives you 7AR. I didn’t dig deep into spell damage per point.

  • @billy0936
    @billy0936 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much I owe you some pizza and drinks ;)

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am happy that you enjoyed the video, and I will never say no to pizza and beer. Thank you for your comment.

  • @mtz3843
    @mtz3843 ปีที่แล้ว

    so getting arcane to 99 to do the best, right?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do not, under any circumstances, recommend Arcane to 99. That is a waste of a lot of points that could go elsewhere. Thank you for your comment.

    • @mtz3843
      @mtz3843 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrownyGaming then what would be a good level for arcane, 80?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In my opinion: 45 for Status Application or 56 for Occult Damage.
      If you are interested, I got a video in this channel in which I go over every Soft Cap in detail. Do not hesitate to take a look.

    • @mtz3843
      @mtz3843 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrownyGaming i think ill go 70 straight down

  • @RKGrizz
    @RKGrizz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the best arcane scaling weapon in the game? Please don't be Rivers of Blood.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If we are just talking about Arcane Scaling, then it is definitely Ripple Crescent Halberd and Ripple Blade. They both have S-Rank Arcane Scaling, and they can be buffed with Blood, Poison and Soporific Greases, which will Scale with this as well, leading to incredible Status Application. They are very good weapons for Arcane Builds. Thank you for your comment.

  • @camronreynosa4958
    @camronreynosa4958 ปีที่แล้ว

    25.38
    just because we almost tripled the discovery rate here does not make it worth the max discovery rating. 0.5% chance on the whole of things is not much better than 1.6%, they are essentially the same. seeing a smallers scaling of drop rates as the first example that resulted in %25 increase going from a %60 to %80 drop chance is far more lucritive than a scaled increase of %220 from a drop chance of 0.5% to 1.6%. Just because the scaling of discovery was substantial the actual returns are completely mute in compared to an increase on an item that has and already higher base drop chance.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe that you are underestimating the importance of Discovery on the items with lower drop chance. For the Noble's Slender Sword, 0.5% means that we should get one in 200 runs. On the other hand, 1.6% means that we should get one in 63 runs. Are the chances still low? Oh yeah. That said, it will save you farm time in the long run; and time is our most valuable asset when we sit down to farm an item with a base drop chance of 0.5%.
      The Deer Bones, on the other hand, already has a base drop of 60%. You should get one within two runs. If you increase this to 80%, you should still get one within two runs. It's just that it has a higher chance of being the first. Overall, the potential for time save is pretty low.
      For this reason, I am more inclined to increase my Discover on the 0.5% item that I am on the 60% item. Thank you for your comment.

  • @MissionCreep.
    @MissionCreep. ปีที่แล้ว

    But where is the information on the base rate drop for each item/weapon/armor??????? I’d like to do noble estimate/ mage or possibly duel wield mantis blade/ wing of estel/ dude pull out flamberge for hard hits. I want to see unique builds with respectful commentary. I don’t respec any builds, I make them from scratch with a build in mind. I don’t invade so much because it’s broken. Anyways, I like unique challenging builds. You have the info to make these build meta. Show us how…

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is something that we have to look for within the game files. That said, there are many fantastic Elden Ring researchers that probably created spreadsheets with this information. I recommend looking it up online in the many wikis or discord servers that contain the raw data. Thank you for your comment.

    • @MissionCreep.
      @MissionCreep. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrownyGaming I really want to play with rare weapons. Thank you sir for your feed back

    • @MissionCreep.
      @MissionCreep. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrownyGaming Estoc “” nobles estoc.. 2 of em…. That’s what I’m talkin about.

  • @TempestLich
    @TempestLich ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly after playing elden ring a lot, Faith is the best stat, it has the most versatility and utility, arcane needs more spells and incantations. Arcane sorceries are a joke. Arcane should be so much more than just bleed.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Faith is one of my favorite Stats, right up there next to Strength. I think that it is extremely fun and, like you said, offers top tier versatility. While I definitely agree that it is one of the best ones in the game, I don't know if I would put it at first. Arcane dominates some of the strongest build types in the game and it works extremely well in multiple hybrid builds. There is just a lot of value here. Not just Bleed, but also Discovery and Dragon Incantations benefit greatly from it. It ain't perfect, but it offers solutions. Thank you for your comment.

  • @shankarmohan87
    @shankarmohan87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro how is an increase from 62.5 to 84.375 a 25% increase? 25% of 62.5 is 15.625
    Also how is an increase from 0.5 to 1.6 a 220% increase? 1.6 is more than 3 times 0.5... shouldn't it be in excess of 300% increase?

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So I went back to review my work. In the first case, you are correct. an increase drop chance from about 62% to about 84% is more like about a 35% increase. I made a mistake in the calculations by comparing the difference to the final chance instead of the initial chance. This is my bad and I appreciate you bringing it to my attention.
      On the second case, my calculations are correct. In terms of percentages, 3x a value is expressed as a 200% increase. To make things easier to understand: Doubling a number is a 100% increase; tripling a number is 200%; quadrupling a number is 300%... so on, and so forth.
      If we run these numbers...
      1.6 - 0.5 = 1.1
      1.1 / 0.5 = 2.2 -------> This is the 220% increase
      In the case of the Noble's Slender Sword, the numbers shown are correct.
      Thank you for your contribution. I appreciate your comment.

  • @aaronhesser498
    @aaronhesser498 ปีที่แล้ว

    If there are these caps in the game, that just means the game developers didn't do their jobs properly, and playing this game is a giant waste of time and excitement.

    • @FrownyGaming
      @FrownyGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am afraid that I do not understand your point. Which Caps are you talking about and why do you think the developers did not do a good job? I would like to read your opinion. Thank you for your comment.

    • @aaronhesser498
      @aaronhesser498 ปีที่แล้ว

      @FrownyGaming the caps on the character/items that prevent players from leveling up all the way to the max level.