@@g0dsf3ar71 yes it stack from attacking anything, but while you still need 125 autos (25*0.2) for both yone and trynd to get max stacks, its true that yone is really fast at stacking it because his q (and maybe ult for every taget hit, im not sure) count as 1 auto while trynd only have his attack speed ot stacks it
bloodthirst is back on its previous stage apparently, before the large patch removing its passive shield. for a while, you get more AD the higher Level you are, now it is back to giving over-shield
@@lmaodogefx i always played MF with this build: Manamune. Eclipse. Collector. Bloodthirst. IE. Mortal reminder or Lord doms depending on enemy comp. My runes back then was press the attack, overheal(yes), alacrity, cut the grass. Into transendence and gathering storm. This build gave me full AD, 80% Crit, shield, Shield Over my full HP that never went off as long as i was not in close-range combat; my W was up eternally because of overheal shield which also gave me the movespeed for missing boots. My ult always hit for up to 16k in total at 30 mins. Unfortunately this build was gutted. Sad. I also stopped playing league since then. I only hop on here to watch zwag because its enjoyable to watch
Instead of a full rework, they could've made wildarrows similar to Twitch passive so that it can stack, and autos refresh the duration. It would've been a great anti-tank item But the rework gives way too many stats!!! it's like the Statikk Shiv but with 25% crit
i think wildarrow already stacks, without limit even. just no indicator like twitch passivve has. the problem with wildarrow is that it scales off ad(poorlyy) while needing attack speed to use properly.
@@polaroideternalhaven8671it was horrible on almost everyone aside from Senna (AD) and Jhin. The problem was it was a lategame scaling item, and most ADC's rather would opt for Infinity edge, and since they already had their 4 Crit items chosen, there was no room for Yuntal unless they got far enough into the game to sell Collectors or something, but at this timeframe collectors wasn't stat nerfed. Jhin could get its passive to do around 300 bleed, and Senna could get the passive to around 100+. They changed it to flat damage because they were reducing item damage as a whole during the second durability patch. They did this with the first item rework in s14 where they gutted energized/removed it completely, and nerfed wits, amongst many other items. The second durability patch only nerfed item damage even further and Yuntal was one of those items. But Riot is questionable and completely stupid so they tried to turn a scaling item into a starter item. Because according to them, nerfing it's already inconsistent and lategame passive (that was nowhere near comparable to IE) to flat damage, and then trying to force it as a starter item was apparently the best move..... Yet clearly anyone with a brain could've told them otherwise, hence why they are reworking it now. As to why they felt like reworking it? I don't know. It could've been fixed as it was, but Riot doesn't know how to balance literally anything so here we are.
Wait, it's legitimately broken by itself, but especially on Yasuo and Yone. The new Yun-yun costs 3000 gold. 50 AD, 50% AS, and 25% Crit is exactly 4000 gold worth of stats, and Yasuo or Yone passive adds another 1000 gold worth of crit chance on it.
It’s fucking crazy how much they love yone, all the kids are playing him, he is already unfun to play against and overloaded as hell, buffed for no reason, now they basically get the old mythic shieldbow back while every other champ has a worse selection of items. Ever since buffing crit chance, they could never build a good first item that gave ad, crit amd attack speed, that made them a bit more balanced, but now they go the same build as old, but they get 100% crit in two items now. They will go: Wildarrows, IE, Stridebreaker, bork, and then tanky items, like GA, maw, or death’s dance, and maybe even full tank items like Jak’sho. They will be UTTERLY overpowered. Their greediness really shows when buffing the 40% pickrate champ everyone else hates who is played by emo kids. Fuck them.
Talking about how funny it is when someone dodges a Yone ult, made me remember the Chalkeaters song 'Must Have Been the Wind'. Just seeing Yone fly by, probably creating a gust of wind while doing so. Then your champ just shrugs and starts walking off singing that song... XD
Anytime I see that much attack speed on an item part of me always wonders how it would work on champions that can still break the cap. It's just so much frontloaded attack speed.
If by front loaded you mean available 100% of the time then not even close. Now yes with inspiration tree item cdr and late game build yes he can have it up more often but still more like 50-70% of the time.
they could make it only stack from crits that way you can't build it first item, but reduce the amount of attacks needed, that way it's a slow start that speed up as you get more crit
So nice to see an item that has AS, AD, and crit! It makes it such a good first buy for when you want to be the ADC so you don't have to be stuck with choosing to do 0 damage or have base AS. It's the "just right click" item and I like that. Hopefully the balance nerfs do as you suggest, like making the crit stack up only off of on-champion hits or takedowns.
riot could leave items unchanged and just adjust or tweak the items on some champs. here for example: yone only gets half the crit of wildarrows but 100% stats from the rest
@@christopherhughes7970 Fully stacked, yes... wonders. The activation of its passive on his Q into an E with that bonus of AS is great, but he'll stack the crit so slowly.
How does the turrets look so retro? I was thinking it is a 3 years old video or something but also thought that yun tal wasn't there for this long. Plus I believe high noon yone is pretty new so there's also that.
Quick question but I would get the Vampiric Scepter after the first item on Yone for some sustain and hold onto it instead of rushing the second item, is this a good idea?
Try wild arrows bork plus hail of blades with a champion that has an auto reset like rengar trundle sett nasus.. Pick the one you like for a super fast healthbar deletion.. sett already has max hp autos on his q so maybe that
this item is good on champs like xayah or varus champs that use like the 3 hit procs but for xayah it might be better all because of the cc in her feathers.
At first I thought it only increased crit chance per critical strike, there's basically no downtime with this item it fully stacks by your next base. Riot really can't release this item in this state...
I like the direction that they were going. What I think that they should do, since you don't need a cloak to access the crit, the crit shouldn't count towards any passives. This would make it less useful on Yone, Yasuo and Tryndamere. It won't help with Yi though.
what does trynda passive do with crit chance? also the reason for no cloak is, that you would lose the crit stat when fully building it, which is smth riot wanted (and did) delete from all items iirc
Why would they make this item it’s like custom tailored for yone yasuo. The old one was a cool idea. Bleed for ad just fix the item don’t change it completely
That gragas in intro 😂
He came in vibin 😂
five nights at gragas
Wait Yone spins both swords while dancing at the fountain?! That deserves a Like 👍🏻
I'm actually thinking more about Tryndamere with this item. 🤔
Trynd gets the crit too slowly
Yone’s crit chance gain is double due to the passive.
@@kingol4801 nah it stacks when you auto anything so its perfect for him.
@@g0dsf3ar71 yes it stack from attacking anything, but while you still need 125 autos (25*0.2) for both yone and trynd to get max stacks, its true that yone is really fast at stacking it because his q (and maybe ult for every taget hit, im not sure) count as 1 auto while trynd only have his attack speed ot stacks it
I think you're seriously overestimating how long it takes to auto attack 125 times. Especially for a usually aggressive champ like Trynd.
What's the point of that item? it gives more crit than a normal crit item ? or does it have so much stats that the scaling is here to nerf ?
“Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?”
Yes, he got all 6!!!
Win Streak: 3
YaY insert Japanesy seal clap😊
I am shocked you are still doing this. Dedication at its finest.
bloodthirst is back on its previous stage apparently, before the large patch removing its passive shield. for a while, you get more AD the higher Level you are, now it is back to giving over-shield
i miss the overheal/shield bt on wild rift, still sucks without it to this day
@@lmaodogefx i always played MF with this build:
Manamune. Eclipse. Collector. Bloodthirst. IE. Mortal reminder or Lord doms depending on enemy comp.
My runes back then was press the attack, overheal(yes), alacrity, cut the grass. Into transendence and gathering storm.
This build gave me full AD, 80% Crit, shield, Shield Over my full HP that never went off as long as i was not in close-range combat; my W was up eternally because of overheal shield which also gave me the movespeed for missing boots.
My ult always hit for up to 16k in total at 30 mins.
Unfortunately this build was gutted. Sad. I also stopped playing league since then. I only hop on here to watch zwag because its enjoyable to watch
22:40 man got merc'd by the melee + cannon minions
Instead of a full rework, they could've made wildarrows similar to Twitch passive so that it can stack, and autos refresh the duration. It would've been a great anti-tank item
But the rework gives way too many stats!!! it's like the Statikk Shiv but with 25% crit
i think wildarrow already stacks, without limit even. just no indicator like twitch passivve has.
the problem with wildarrow is that it scales off ad(poorlyy) while needing attack speed to use properly.
@NTTofMistery not only that, but the bleed only procs on crits. Unless you have 75%, that's just to much inconsistency.
@@NTTofMistery doesn't scale on AD, flat 60 phys bleed
@@kylemasson9324 it used to but it was horrible so they made it flat... still horrible
@@polaroideternalhaven8671it was horrible on almost everyone aside from Senna (AD) and Jhin. The problem was it was a lategame scaling item, and most ADC's rather would opt for Infinity edge, and since they already had their 4 Crit items chosen, there was no room for Yuntal unless they got far enough into the game to sell Collectors or something, but at this timeframe collectors wasn't stat nerfed.
Jhin could get its passive to do around 300 bleed, and Senna could get the passive to around 100+.
They changed it to flat damage because they were reducing item damage as a whole during the second durability patch. They did this with the first item rework in s14 where they gutted energized/removed it completely, and nerfed wits, amongst many other items. The second durability patch only nerfed item damage even further and Yuntal was one of those items.
But Riot is questionable and completely stupid so they tried to turn a scaling item into a starter item. Because according to them, nerfing it's already inconsistent and lategame passive (that was nowhere near comparable to IE) to flat damage, and then trying to force it as a starter item was apparently the best move..... Yet clearly anyone with a brain could've told them otherwise, hence why they are reworking it now.
As to why they felt like reworking it? I don't know. It could've been fixed as it was, but Riot doesn't know how to balance literally anything so here we are.
Wait, it's legitimately broken by itself, but especially on Yasuo and Yone.
The new Yun-yun costs 3000 gold. 50 AD, 50% AS, and 25% Crit is exactly 4000 gold worth of stats, and Yasuo or Yone passive adds another 1000 gold worth of crit chance on it.
It’s fucking crazy how much they love yone, all the kids are playing him, he is already unfun to play against and overloaded as hell, buffed for no reason, now they basically get the old mythic shieldbow back while every other champ has a worse selection of items. Ever since buffing crit chance, they could never build a good first item that gave ad, crit amd attack speed, that made them a bit more balanced, but now they go the same build as old, but they get 100% crit in two items now. They will go:
Wildarrows, IE, Stridebreaker, bork, and then tanky items, like GA, maw, or death’s dance, and maybe even full tank items like Jak’sho. They will be UTTERLY overpowered. Their greediness really shows when buffing the 40% pickrate champ everyone else hates who is played by emo kids. Fuck them.
Talking about how funny it is when someone dodges a Yone ult, made me remember the Chalkeaters song 'Must Have Been the Wind'. Just seeing Yone fly by, probably creating a gust of wind while doing so. Then your champ just shrugs and starts walking off singing that song... XD
Anytime I see that much attack speed on an item part of me always wonders how it would work on champions that can still break the cap. It's just so much frontloaded attack speed.
If by front loaded you mean available 100% of the time then not even close. Now yes with inspiration tree item cdr and late game build yes he can have it up more often but still more like 50-70% of the time.
You know Zwag, wildarrows on Garen might be kinda funny to see.
Where the skin of the day person. We got Kyle and Cannon person. I feel lost....
Zeri can prolly proc wind arrows passive with one auto
it's the "baiting us with the default skin in the thumbnail, but using a legendary skin in-game" for me
By the time this patch hits , arcane season 2 is gonna be out. Thats why the minions and the map is different
9:12
I did the math - It's 125 auto attacks to fully stack the item and I disagree with Zwag's idea of having it only stack off champions.
they could make it only stack from crits that way you can't build it first item, but reduce the amount of attacks needed, that way it's a slow start that speed up as you get more crit
zwag: I think the cannon minion bopped him
cannon minion: I offer this kill to you my king
that gnar is the same guy that played hwei against your team in the ambrossa life steal game lol
So nice to see an item that has AS, AD, and crit! It makes it such a good first buy for when you want to be the ADC so you don't have to be stuck with choosing to do 0 damage or have base AS. It's the "just right click" item and I like that. Hopefully the balance nerfs do as you suggest, like making the crit stack up only off of on-champion hits or takedowns.
the first backgond music is from castlevania S2
Saving that flash for next game, doesn't want to smurf to hard.
flash got a secret buff, it now executes
yone/yasuo qs count as autos too, to make it even better on them
riot could leave items unchanged and just adjust or tweak the items on some champs. here for example: yone only gets half the crit of wildarrows but 100% stats from the rest
I wonder how well this item will work on Garen…
@@christopherhughes7970 Fully stacked, yes... wonders. The activation of its passive on his Q into an E with that bonus of AS is great, but he'll stack the crit so slowly.
@@thanatos8618 It’s worth testing it out, not a lot of items with AD, AS and crit…
Every 3rd q when u hit the wave seems to count each minion hit as an auto
How do you break what is already broken?
Build it first
Into tinier pieces
How about twitch with Wildarrows and Experimental Hexplate doing a crit build... crazy instant attack speed
You know who I like to put Hexplate on? Vayne. It's expensive but soooo much fun!
@@KingDomfaithlifecoaching I bet, with those two items the instant AS is nuts and hitting like a truck going Crit.
So Tryn gets to have his passive twice? Very fun!
Zwag sadly lost one cannon
how would the item affect briar?
How does the turrets look so retro? I was thinking it is a 3 years old video or something but also thought that yun tal wasn't there for this long. Plus I believe high noon yone is pretty new so there's also that.
Any chance you’d try Redemption Brand?(high dmg/burn kills)
Saw a random short and sounds cool if it’s worthy/possible
8:23 accidentally dodging vi lol
Vi (the video game character) would like to know your location, and I don't mean in-game.
I know this is stupid, and has nothing to do with the video, but Rito should just say "to hell with it" and bring back innervating locket.
Is that roboquest music I hear in the background?
great build thanks!
Pretty sure the minions and tower are related to arcane no?
RuneScape music at the beginning?
Quick question but I would get the Vampiric Scepter after the first item on Yone for some sustain and hold onto it instead of rushing the second item, is this a good idea?
while sustain is nice youd probably want to start stacking early as possible like other stack items.
Ah that sweet Runescape soundtrack in the background :D
I'm absolutely gonna try it for Vayne top
Does this work on Garen too?
23:12 happens to the best of us 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
What is that Infinity Edge price?! Did they raise it 300 gold?!
Try wild arrows bork plus hail of blades with a champion that has an auto reset like rengar trundle sett nasus.. Pick the one you like for a super fast healthbar deletion.. sett already has max hp autos on his q so maybe that
this item is good on champs like xayah or varus champs that use like the 3 hit procs but for xayah it might be better all because of the cc in her feathers.
There's one champion that no one is thinking of, that will benefit more than any other champion, including Tryn, Yas, Yone.
is this update on live servers or just PBE?
This was the definition of yone inting
I think that item will sinergyze so well with jinx passive
This would be great on rengar, I think
Thanks Zwag!
I kind of want to see wildarrow, hexplate twitch
Broke yone ❌
Made yone have 2 item crit spike as intended ✅
I feel like this item will be best on crit junglers, because they can just aa all the time
I hit the thumbs up for the double sword spin
Is this PVE or live servers?
why do his towers and minions look different
First Champ that came to mind was Xayah.
Permanent? Does that mean if you sell it you keep the stat?
giving a like and comment for that double blade sword dance
You really don't need to rely on click-baity titles/thumbnails. Your content is great, let it speak for itself 👍
well the fact that with 2 items you had 100% crit... is a thing
At first I thought it only increased crit chance per critical strike, there's basically no downtime with this item it fully stacks by your next base.
Riot really can't release this item in this state...
This item seems really good on Aphelios
Do it with Master Yi! That flurry is going to be a shredder!
Please play belveth with the new wildarrows
Nice then are we expecting a tryndamere and draven videos with this updated item next? No need for yasuo its just almost yone duplicate
Why towers look different is it a pbe thing?
Gragas jumpscare intro
So.... a Warwick rageblade + arrows
nice info braderr!
I like the direction that they were going. What I think that they should do, since you don't need a cloak to access the crit, the crit shouldn't count towards any passives. This would make it less useful on Yone, Yasuo and Tryndamere. It won't help with Yi though.
That’s so stupid
what does trynda passive do with crit chance?
also the reason for no cloak is, that you would lose the crit stat when fully building it, which is smth riot wanted (and did) delete from all items iirc
I gotta see this on Belveth
I got outplay by the outplay button 😂 Zwag 2024
23:10 best death ever :)
Why would they make this item it’s like custom tailored for yone yasuo. The old one was a cool idea. Bleed for ad just fix the item don’t change it completely
why zwag isnt in forfunsquad videos anymore :\
The Riot special xD
What's that skin tho can anyone tell?
dawnbringer Yone with a croma
should have balanced bleed to make it viable instead
so stupid when an item gets completely reworked but keeps the same icon and name
It's litterly phantom dancer with more ad and atk spd
I feel like Terminus is better than Navori's on Yone because of his passive magic damage and Q applying on-hit effects.
long time no Jayce
Well well well, you used a skin!!
Aren't they nerfing damage dealers too much? This item with all its effects used to be the norm for base item stats...
tf happened to turrets?!?!?
Kindred count
Count since the last video 17 days
Last record of 88, 222, 139, 63, 98, 21, 152 days
If I could like it twice, I would
I've never been this early in my life. 1 MINUTE.
Next do Jhin!
You should lose some crit stacks when you die
So basically it has delayed crit unlike other crit items, and in total gives 50% attack speed? Kinda lame. Shouldve just made the bleed stack.
9:00 I'll do the math: 0.2 × 125 = 25
Honestly tho I think this item on senna would be broken
A crit stacking item?
cool thumbnail ^^
How to be cool calm and collected while kicking everyone's ass?? How's that possible zwag?
To be fair, it's literally all he plays/posts. I'd be more concerned if he wasn't this good. 😂