How do you only have 50k subscribers? You always put out quality, thoughtful content. I hope you continue and that you BLOW UP as we look forward to TD3!
@JustinMock1 Lol thank you very much for the kind words! Truly appreciate it 😊 Here's the build breakdown, and keep an eye out for a DZ guide I've got coming out quite soon! 👉 th-cam.com/video/sctJAwWYi_s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=amkjhV6bpITe9js2
I'm all for more content & support for Div2. It's been the only shooter I've continuously played or come back to. My only real concern at this point is storage. They keep coming out with new brand sets, 2-3 named items, & 2-3 Exotics. Storage space is already *extremely* limited.
Limited storage has been a issue for a long time. I don't know what kind of information the developers have on the total amount of storage used by players across the board. This is purely speculative but, perhaps they believe that most players are not willing nor interested in collecting all of the unique gear and weapons. I mean that literally. All off it. I think this could be possible due to the fact that there are players that like only a few different styles of play, and perhaps they would not find it desirable to seek out every piece of gear and every weapon. I to once had the idea that I wanted to collect every piece of gear but, what I found out after filling up my stash is that, I don't like to play with every piece of gear and every weapon. For this reason (this could possible if not likely apply to most other players) they may not see a need to make the amendment, even though players have asking for years.
I feel that you're pretty spot on about the long term goals of the Div2 dev team. Project Resolve and the short term are to bring people back or new players in, to maximize returns and player engagement before new content drops.
I been playing since beginning and still figuring out all the gear pieces so hopefully your videos will assist in deciding what is best to get the most out of this game.
Wow a division2 video that's actually Optimistic about the games future. Whst will the other youtubers think lol Love the vid. Thanks for the awesome content
Essentially from a game dev. Live service go into two areas once released. “Sustain” - actively developing for the title “Shutdown” - getting the game in a good spot for years to come before development stops. Now I haven’t seen the content in the new DLC yet. But it def seems the game is going into shutdown. They are probably gonna use this DLC and Heartland as “Keep Players Busy” before Division 3.
I think the special thing about Division 2 in particular is that the game was essentially put on ice long ago. After season 4 they were clearly winding down by reducing the size of the team, presumably just to have them get the game to a point where they could just leave it with a skeleton crew. Then, presumably because of covid, they attempted to continue the live service with a much smaller team which lead to much smaller updates. I feel as if the only reason this game got updated for so long and now has the chance for a third dlc was because of covid tbh. In that sense I think it's actually the opposite from what you're saying, where the games coming from a soft "shutdown" state to the "sustain" state, which they'll then "shutdown" on Div 3 release (like Div 1)
As a newer player I'm excited for all of the updates coming. Hit shd 1000 a couple weeks ago and been stockpiling exotic components for the up coming changes. Thank you for your input and views on where the game is going and what's the build in this vid😅
I'm so glad you're enjoying! Lots to come with the game still, no doubt. Here's the build! 👉 th-cam.com/video/sctJAwWYi_s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gyQ9hSe05p99g2Kg
Hey Rogue, my brother and i would like to thank you for your effort in making quality contents from guides, lore, build etc. I hope you won't stop making The Division content and we are looking forward to see you in the 3rd installment
🙏 Thank you so much!! That's very kind. I will continue making videos and being here as long as there's people to watch 😄 Division 3 is going to be epic one day!
I used to watch some other channels for this game myself, but in my opinion there's none that compare to the quality and precise content that RougeGold puts out for "TD, TD, & up coming TD3", (just my opinion)!
We need more legendary missions please!! Honestly they need not change much to the existing missions and just create legendary missions... It's so much fun
They're definitely pushing to make the game easier for new players and for group play and team synergy. The meta for solo players will hardly shift with these changes.
Exactly! I see people freaking out about that gear lock thing and stuff from PTS. Here i just think most of the stuff won't affect me at all. I am just a solo player and basically will continue to play the same way pretty much.
Ubisoft even stated that Division 3 isn't one of their main focuses at the moment. Massive still need to patch up Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora and Star Wars: Outlaws has been delayed to mid or late 2024. There are also the Division Resurgence and Heartland games that need to come out first before the dev team can finally start recruiting and working on the Division 3. Therefore, we have to be patient. Besides the Division 2 is pretty fun to play right now. Let's enjoy it while we can.
All good factors, after reading/hearing about the patch notes coming I'm hoping a legendary open map (why the buffs, the gear upgrades n such) one could only hope
I agree with what you say, I think exactly the same. In fact, I always say this to my clanmates. Also it doesn't make sense to release DLC just to finish the game. I think they want to achieve the same thing as with Warlords, that feeling of starting a different story, without losing some of our progress. I'm sure there are many things that have been left half-finished for a long time, due to lack of equipment. And now they are doing that and much more ahead. I don't think TD3 will arrive for another 5 or 6 years. And that is provided that its development begins at the end of this year.
I think (and hope mostly) that future updates after Resolve come out are more experimental in trying to find the devs ideal balance for gear and weapons. The gear and weapon changes that come with Resolve seem larger and more dramatic than I can remember them ever being.
Hey Rogue!!! How are you doing? I just finished The Hunted novel and man I'm excited to see how it unfolds in the future. I hope the dev team has some plans to incorporate those iconic characters from the novel into the campaign. That would be something.
Ty gold!!! Yeah I highly doubt that the Brooklyn dlc is the last they still got a couple years for d3 Everything you said makes sense Ty for always keeping us updated on what’s going on no other streamer I feel like does this hard of work for the community!
I think it's going to be difficult for the devs to fully return to a controlled and curated experience, since they have introduced systems like Optimization & Expertise (which remind me of Div Tech and Classified Gear from D1), indicating the game has moved into a sunsetting phase. The fact that they are reducing the costs on these systems seems further evidence of this. Also consider how much Countdown has reduced the gear grind, and the upcoming SHD level rework - all making it easier than ever for new (and returning) players to jump into the endgame. It definitely feels like the "let players have fun stage" - and to be fair, I have indeed being having a ton of fun since I came back to the game (thanks in no small part to you and your videos for influencing that decision lol). Even the gear lock feels like it's primarily being done to address something in the back end rather than a decision to make the game more tactical / strategic. The continued development of the game makes it feel like we are getting the best of both worlds - getting the shiny new things and having fun at the same time. The upcoming DLC, new story content, spec reworks, and everything else they are doing shows they want to keep players engaged while they work on D3 (which will likely be a 2027 / 2028 release IMO). I'm genuinely interested and excited to see how this will play out.
Very valid points, and I'm mad that I didn't bring up Optimization/Countdown because those fit right into the conversation 😄 With Optimization, they actually outright said on stream that they view that as an end-of-life feature, hence why it was introduced with Division 1's final update. They only introduced it to Division 2 in Season 4 because at the time, they thought that was the final update for the game. Once they learned things would continue, they said they tried to devise a new progression system that would allow for players to still have that "chase," and that's when they came up with Expertise. Countdown 100% fits into the more "fun" side of things with it's ridiculous loot quantities, and I think that backs up my theory that during Year 4 in particular they were more oriented towards the "fun" side, before Division 3 was greenlit and long-term funding for Division 2 was not a guarantee. With both of those examples, it remains my suspicion that the Endgame redesign in Y6S2 will attempt to address those things. Whether or not it's successful we'll see, but from what we know about it it sounds like Endgame reward redistribution is on the table (potentially lowering Countdown's efficiency), and they've previously spoken before about knowing that holistic difficulty would need to be adjusted eventually with Expertise's impact. Sorry for the long response, again I'm just more frustrated with myself that I forgot to mention these things in the original video lol.
Thank you so much! And welcome back! I highly suggest you check out this new/returning player guide I made, it explains the majority of what's up with Division 2's current-day endgame 👉 th-cam.com/video/1BfRduqxX9g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KKdOdzKMRCD2xBU0
This is for those people that think division 3 is coming in 2025. If u paid attention to what they said when they announced division 3 is coming, they are putting a team together to make division 3. That means when they announced that there will be division 3, it's in the early phase of development. Which means we won't be getting division 3 for years. It's not like COD where it takes 1 year of making because they are copying and pasting everything.
@@TigerWon I know this is Ubisoft. The point I was making is it will take years to make division 3 because when they announced it, they were putting a team together. Most companies (unlike EA, Activision/Blizzard, and any shit company like them) will take years to make games. Especially if they just announced that they are putting a team together to make said game.
Im brand new to D2. I played and loved the original. Id love to see a you put out a video of suggestions for new players. Just subscribed to you, and im looking forward to more of your content
Thank you so much for the sub! And welcome to TD2! What sorts of suggestions are you thinking? If you haven't checked it out, I definitely recommend watching this New Player Guide I put together last year. Walks you through everything I think you need to know 👉 th-cam.com/video/1BfRduqxX9g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QMQzyXiMCTITk6hN
I've expressed this thought process on other channels when the question is asked but here we go... so Division Resurgence is coming out probably within the next few months. This free mobile game will draw in new players and keep everyone who wants to play division on their commute or slow night shift. This will in turn build interest in the main division games, especially the first as it mentions what happens in the first in Resurgence. Also with the games timeline it leads into the div 2 time. Then down the road they have Heartland which is a free battle royal-ish game which will pulling in the PUBG/COD crowd. This timeline is probably around div 2 (I think NGN has a division timeline video about it) so this will lead to interest in Div 2 and due to its similar style should also peak interest in div 1's Survival. Now we've already seen they are having crossover in game rewards for all three games. This would stand to reason they might try to crossover future div 2 updates/manhunts/dlc/incursions. Think an incursion mission for div 2 in Silvercreek, or an Outcasts event in Heartland, or Black Tusk or True Sons showing up in Resurgence NYC. Lots of crossover possibilities. But no the Brooklyn dlc is not the end point, it will be the catalyst for new material. One of my theories is that based off the end of the last Div novel (the one with the cool rogue agent) the dlc will be stopping the separation of ortiz tech channels or part of separating off like ANNA. Anyways I see lots of options for new material even with just the new factions. I mean the Freeman could have bases everywhere industrial workers are in large numbers...like say Pittsburgh or a certain former True Sons ironworks factory. I could go on for hours about little additions that could make tons of content (Psst Ubisoft). So I see Div 3 being 2026 but in other ways there's already a plan made if division 3 is approved so there's already a city picked and ubisoft employees collecting data in it as we spea...type. that's just my thought process though...
I don't know what I was suppose to look for and advice during the PTS because it mostly felt the same in the content that I played. I know the UI in a few work benches changed, but decent still was terrible for me, and I didn't try summit. I'm all for back-end upkeep, but if they're asking for input they need to be a bit more specific. I am all for more story in TD2 and I doubt Brooklyn DLC is the end as well. That is more a full circle moment for us TD1/ hella old Division players. Revisit the beginning to start over fresh like saving the White House from Black Tusk a few seasons ago.
I think the main goal of Phase 2 was thoughts on the new Exotics/items, and just the ongoing general balancing. But I agree they could've been more clear on that
I honestly want more hunter cosmetics at this point. These stories about the hunter's have me more interested than our regular division agent. Plus it'd be nice to make our agents with more size to them lol
Cats are hilarious! I respect the solo rogue that goes after a group. At least they are confident with their ability & up for a challenge. Punks that bully people when the numbers favor their group is Uber wack! 😂 You almost got them both.
Man, I really kinda wanna go back into the game. I last played when I got my special thingy but I exhausted all the points on the map to level that special class and wasnt quite sure how to actually get enough to max out. I always loved the vibes of the game but back then destiny 2 was just so much better....nowadays I tend to see things different. Maybe I should start consuming more information about Div2.
I picked up the division 2, plus the warlords dlc for 20 bucks like 3 weeks ago, so far I got 60 hours in it, and it’s been a fun experience, I’m at the end game, but decided to try the dark zone last night, overall it’s been a good fun experience, and I feel like it’s a good value! I liked the division 1, idk why I slept on division 2 tho lol 😂 Still learning, and trying to perfect my load out. How do you have so much armor? My build is balanced between red/blue, I have slightly more blue, but idk if I should be more red, or what. As always awesome video! And I agree, with what you say, 👍
Glad you're enjoying! The further you get into build and item collection, the more power you'll gain access to. There's progression systems like your SHD watch and Expertise levels that are providing me roughly 20-25% extra armor on top of my gear items.
@@RogueGold I think total I got like 60 hrs in the game right now, been playing it pretty heavily lol 😂 but I noticed the shd watch/level. But that makes sense I didn’t even think about it adding a boost. And do you know if you’re still allowed to do the manhunt missions? Cause it’s my maps it shows up but I can’t find any of the people I’m suppose to rescue lol.
@Unpluggeddiagandprogramming If you hover over any of the four rescue targets, it should list the name of an activity needing to be completed next in order to locate them. The first objective for all four targets is a Control Point within DC, I believe. It'll be marked in yellow on your map
Plan? very simple, we know div 3 is coming, which means that ubisoft wants to show that they care and want to keep the franchise in the general loop. im not the most up to date with the franchise and all the current updates, however i know that we'll get updates till deep into 2025, which should be a smooth transition div 3
I would like to see "another next gen update" in TD2 with DLSS/FSR and Ray Tracing I think that TD2 team on some point will be moved to TD3 to teach themselves on tools and bringing post release content but maybe after year 9 or something like that
Makes sense. MH Wilds was revealed, and Capcom suddenly rolled out the return to world campaign for people whose interest got piqued and wanted to see what's available now in that universe (Some of us don't like talking about Rise/Sunbreak much). Unfortunately, Div2 was left less polished than MHWorld/Iceborne was, embarassingly so, some would say, and devs needed to go back and work on it. Really interesting similarities and differences there, though admittedly MHW is not a live service game at all; the multiplayer aspects simply helped keep it alive along with the depth of content, in the same way that Div2 could be played solo for nearly everything and multiplayer adds more dimensions to it for people who want variety.
I've played a lot of Destiny 2, and they have seem to have a similar mindset when it comes to community pushback. They have so many new/casual players that they are actively making changes to benefit them more than those who have been with them for years. The amount of people leaving is exponentially less than those coming in.
I completely agree that you have the direction of "The Division 2" pegged. If I had money to do with I'd also bet exactly what you are betting on concerning the direction of "The Division 2".
What's to say that what they are doing to this current game that it will directly link to division 3 where you choose 1 current character that is transferred over to division 3 giving it more continuaty to next fase.
I just want to put it out there, plans change, sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse. I couldn't tell you whether or not there will still be new major content after Brooklyn, but with Ubisoft laying off and currently downsizing more and more, I don't think Ubisoft is stable, now that doesn't mean that the TD2 team is unstable (I do not have any knowledge to know but with the current way they are behaving it looks from the outside that they are stable) but at any moment that unstableness from Ubi can effect the TD2 team, it could be tomorrow, next month, years from now or never, we just have to live and see.
I think your read on the state of the game is probably pretty accurate. The Division 2 is in a unique position as a game that had basically ended its development and entered maintenance mode, only to be resuscitated and thrust back into active development. Transitioning back from what you call "fun mode" to "controlled mode" is a tricky thing to do, and most importantly, to do right. I can't think of any other games that have been in this position, so there's no precedent for how it should be done.
Absolutely agree! They likely won't nail everything 100% moving forward, but at the very least this can all be valuable info to learn and use for the years to come
@@RogueGold Yup. I just hope they'll continue to listen to the players to help guide them. And they can start by restoring the Empress and Hana U buffs immediately!
I'm really curious how big the Brooklyn area will actually be, smaller than WoNY, bigger, will we get a new DZ even? I'm relatively sure the game will receive new content after that too, but probably not to that magnitude of a whole new open world area (new mission/incursion/raid here and there).
@jonathansloan3140 There should be plenty of people to play with then. I've never played on PlayStation, so I have no firsthand experience, however anyone I've ever spoken to from any platform says they have no problem matchmaking for the majority of endgame content
@@RogueGold my experience has been vastly different. anytime i put in any of the discords im in that im looking for people to run legendary anything it takes upwards of an hour or more for me to get a response
I know you disagreed with this before but My personal thoughts are these, 1. As I said before I think the reason Div 2 is being "fixed" is that it's going to be the core (coding wise) and a way for the new Devs to practice for Div 3, much easier to repaint/reskin/ remaster and such than to build a new game from ground up, we've seen how the Devs can change a map/area to invaded and they do a great job of that so I think this is a way for the to practice on building Div 3 while "fixing" Div 2. I've watched quite a few of the Chinese version of Div 2 and it looks shiney-er like it was past through a new snowdrop engine filter and I've also seen how they changed the structure of famous political buildings and landmarks, easy to take a city block move or restructure it around and call it a building in a completely different city. 2. I still think the NY DLC will be the last new thing (Story Wise) we get in Div 2 because it will directly tie 2 and 3 together via cliffhanger AND I wouldn't doubt that they announce Div 3 shortly after kinda like Div 1 and Div 2, I think we'll hear whispers of Div 3 later 2025 (October-ish) and Div 3 in early 2026 as March 2026 will be a 10th anniversary for the franchise, which will be a decent selling point/ad campaign. We all know the Devs are spread thin, kinda hard making Div 3 and still creating new content for Div 2, especially content that can be in Div 3. 3. Lastly I don't think Div 3 will be overly spectacular in so far as a WOW factor, sure the game will be prettier because they have an updated Snowdrop engine, If Div 1 or 2 were "remastered" via filtering it through the new engine it would be prettier too. I think we'll see new things like stealth and a few other mechanics but these are things they were working on in the first game so not really so "inventive" as they will lead us to believe, we are already hearing whispers of some of the new things in Heartland and Resurgence, Div 3 will just be a prettier game with a few new mechanics from those games, a giant "add-on or DLC" so to speak, everything "new" under one umbrella, which BTW I'm fine with, just keep the story moving forward and I'm good. You gotta remember, this is a business, you don't make real money on $10.00 season passes/DLC and free game modes, ESPECIALLY on a 5 year old game.
I know how they can keep player retention in Division 2, Make the game FUN and less of a grind fest. If I been working hard all day at work, why am I going to use my spare free time , Grinding in a game. (Oh and they should bring snow to the New York DLC)😊
100% agreed, with project resolve being NEEDED to fix the foundation of the game, think of it like a house, no point painting the walls when the foundation is falling apart under the house. with the new dlc coming, as Yannick said it himself, its not about that there is a new dlc coming and it is all cool and all, but the fact that they are allowed to make a dlc, means they have the support of ubi and are trusted to keep updating this game. also on Div 3 coming i don-t think it will impact div 2 and its future content, i believe it will keep getting support as long as there are players for it, yannick said it himself in multiple interviews, as long as a playerbase exists they will keep bringing content. hopefully an expansion after the dlc.
I dont think we will see another story expansion after this next one maybe something smaller sure but I dont think Massive have the kind of numbers or resources required to work on so many projects at once and I would bet most the team is going to be on the working next game sooner rather than later leaving a bare bones crew to man D2
Could be! My main reasoning there is that the vast majority of The Division 2's current workforce isn't at Massive proper. A team of 1-2 dozen (to my knowledge) lead the project from Massive, and then several dozen across Ubisoft Bucharest and Shanghai provide the rest of the resources. They could certainly roll those Devs into a Division 3 team though, we'll see!
There is no way they r gonna introduce all these new thgs, Brooklyn DLC, new endgame system, etc. and then stop new content. D3 is at least 3 yrs away and they continue 2 support D2 until then. U may not like the content, some1 will always h8 it. But the devs need 2 keep the hype 4 this franchise going.
Only thing i want from devs is to give players who hate raids like me some way to get raid exotics even if task needs few weeks or months to do. Not all of us like raids and doing same raid for like 30 times to get exotic is insanity. Something like division 1 with bosses in open world...
I know but even if you get them buy chance there is no way to extract because people literally wait in ambushes to get them... To be honest even buying is better then dark zone, newer liked place i'm pve player. Best i can do is help someone with mission or bounty but no pvp... @@RogueGold
I would much rather have had new content rather than a lot of tweaks to existing gear and a few new items. Its also a little contradictory as most of these buffs seem to be making the game easier and yet most veterans have been asking for more legendary missions because the game in their eyes is already too easy. Heroic missions for instance are easily doable with a half decent build. These changes to gear are great for content creators as it gives them the opportunity to make many new build videos (no criticism intended ), but really a few new items and a few buffs isn't going to keep people playing in the long term
if they wanted to keep the community interested and engaged. Why not just change up all the existing missions. Change all the spawn points for the enemy's and the number of them coming out. It just gets old grinding the same stuff over and over again. And when you figure out where every enemy is going to spawn from it becomes less and less fun, and repetitive. But instead, they spend time and resources on new gear sets and cosmetics.
I mean, I think the main thing with what you're proposing is that those are all completely separate types of Devs that they have on the team. The Art team makes cosmetics, designers work on new gear, and programmers work on functional changes to the game's content (layman descriptions). I'm sure the team would agree that modifying old content like that would be cool, but those resources are currently completely tied up working on the DLC.
@@RogueGold Well hate to say it but from a management standpoint they need to invest in more programmers and cut back in other areas. From my count there's around 44 brand/gear sets. Do we really need more at this time? Are more outfits or masks what people are wanting? The last manhunt mission was the best thing we had in awhile besides the incursion. It's just my opinion.
So I undertand from what you're saying that you think Project Resolve is actually a "rebuild" of the game for the new team to make easier to work on? It could be! But now I have to ask you: don't you think that when WONY came out, Ubisoft really didn't have any further plan for the game, and all we are having since two-3 years is entirely "achieved" by the community (forcin Ubisoft)?
Yes, I mean they even said publicly that Season 4 was originally planned to be the final update for the game. But WONY sold very well, and some of Ubi's other projects weren't going great, so they came back to Division!
Project Resolve - not End-Life. Brooklyn. Yeah, that's the *start* of end-life. Cause, by that time, Star Wars Outlaws will be fresh on the scene and, between it's release near the end of 2024 to Brooklyn DLC early 2025, Julian Gerighty will be starting to build his dream team for TD3. Year 6 will be the segue between Brooklyn and end-life for TD2, acting as a cover of content for Julian's team to start whiteboarding TD3. With the power button for TD3 production flipped on full blast and going full steam ahead by mid-2025...Minimum of 3-3&1/2ish years to launch and we're looking maybe (IMO) early 2029 for TD3 - the earliest. *my unpopular opinion - correction, unpopular prediction.
Idk division 2 came out in what? 2019? And division 1 came out in 2016? Once star wars gets release i bet we'll see division 3 in about 3 years from then
I think Div 3 is farther along than what people may think. They did a lot of the heavy lifting when they started development on Div 2, so they already have many of the assets they need. The Brooklyn DLC or expansion... Whatever it is, will likely be the last major content for Division 2.
@@RogueGold I hope I'm wrong in some ways, but we're talking major content right? If the DLC comes out at the end of 2024 or beginning of 2025, I can see it having a few seasons in year 6 with (I think) Div 3 releasing early spring 2026. Maybe even on the anniversary of the Div 1 launch. That's just my thought process on it.
More incursions. I know they said no more raids (I'm hoping they change their minds). Paradise lost has provided hours of content for my friends and I.
Oh yup, I think another Incursion in Year 7 (year of content following the DLC's release) is a given. From what I can tell Paradise Lost was a huge success
@NasamaPeepo Sorry, ps5 here. I'd recommend discord. It's a lot of fun. There are plenty of people willing to help. I understand a lot of people have bad attitudes but it shouldn't stop you from finding a good group who are patient.
I see your point, but I just don't agree with one thing: We are already in the "fun phase". The game is easy as f***, and it keeps getting easier. Getting Gear, Weapons and Exotics was never easier. We're now getting A LOT of garanted Exotic Components to get everything to expertise 25. I do believe that they will release some kind of content after the next DLC, but I just don't agree that we are in a more "controled phase" right now.
Fair assessment! My overall point though is that I think we'll see changes made to further cement the "control" part of things when the endgame gets redesigned in Y6S2. We'll see though!
Nope! They've confirmed that two brand new Seasons will come in-between Season 3 and the DLC release. This video goes over the new roadmap 👉 th-cam.com/video/R3QQv7i6-9M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RgjKppYPQraxNsGV
Tbh the comparison between 1.8 on TD1 and the project resolve in TD2 are similar. With 1 exception that TD3 is been announced. And for sure it needs time to create it. To keep the guys on this game (and of course the new players) they have to do something for the fun of this game. But the thing is that the current state of the game is not "available". We have too much gear sets, we have too much power. We don't have the content to use this power. We don't have the resources to have all gear sets in the inventory or stash. These are just 2 points! I remember that Yannick said that the incursion will be soooo difficult. And what? 15-20 Minutes and that's all. Descent is also only useful to waste your time. Only interesting to collect the comms and the in-game stuff (exotics etc.). Sorry for this post. 🤘
An alternative view: they reduced season content by making season duration longer so less seasons needed, content within a season has got less, they are reselling previous season content, they have moved the dlc out a year. Project resolve rebalancing of weapons and gears is the cheapest way of introducing a new grind and filling the space they have created
I can't believe people still cover this game. It's like running across an up to date Anthem content creator. Had to give you a sub for fighting a fight that was lost many years ago.
It really hurts me that we have to wait another year until the DLC when it was meant to release in like a month from now (i think?). I get that QoL updates are neccesary but i think this is too much, if they wanna keep player counts, they have to give us enough content
I think they're doing about as much as they can with what they've got. A DLC in production, and an entire redesign to the endgame (which I think is more expansive than some realize) is pretty impressive for a team of their size. Now you're right, 2024 is going to be content-light for veterans, but history has told them that Vets will consistently return after long gaps if there's sizeable new stuff to check out. So if 2024 makes the game even more attractive for newer audiences, then they likely see that as the best path with the resources they have on-hand until the DLC arrives.
They can confirm whatever they want, Ubisoft and especially The Division dev team has shown time and time again them confirming anything means nothing; being the champions of delays and cancelations. So I will just wait and see. And hope that Division like game of former Division devs, we saw an announcement & artwork of a few years back; is still in production. They really need a competitor that kicks their teeth in so to speak. Since Ubisoft their reputation and many of their games have tanked badly, I disagree that they can afford people walking away; but time will tell if they are actually capable of delivering solid content.
Wait. We were supposed to go back to NYC at the end of year 5 given the road map shown before year 5 was started. I sat there and watched those two spew that crap in the state of the game. Are you saying now that is not happening until some time next year? After waiting almost a year to get to the end of season 2? After they changed how long the manhunts last? And all of the other crap decisions say it aint so. Its turning out that the books, graphic novels, and audiobooks audible presentation are becoming far more interesting than the game. They are dragging their feet. Constantly doing thing people dont ask for and ignoring changes that makes sense community requested. How is that for QoL?
I think you're conflating two different content releases. Season 3 begins in 3 weeks on February 6th, this will take place in New York, and the story will revolve around Aaron Keener, the events of WONY, and mysteries we've been awaiting answers for. Originally, the update after this would have seen the release of the Brooklyn DLC, where we're getting an all-new map and other content additions. This is now slated for early 2025. In-between Season 3 and the DLC is now scheduled to be two other brand new Seasons/Manhunts, their stories and locations are unknown for now.
They should bring back classified gear! They should also allow us to use as many exotics as we won’t! Make a whole exotic build! They should get ride of all the BS gear/weapons that no one uses! Simplify the gear/weapons. Make new gear/gear sets that actually matter and that people will use.
How do you only have 50k subscribers? You always put out quality, thoughtful content. I hope you continue and that you BLOW UP as we look forward to TD3!
Also, would you mind sharing any info on your build here? I've never been in the DZ in TD2, but your equipment makes it look manageable haha
@JustinMock1 Lol thank you very much for the kind words! Truly appreciate it 😊 Here's the build breakdown, and keep an eye out for a DZ guide I've got coming out quite soon! 👉 th-cam.com/video/sctJAwWYi_s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=amkjhV6bpITe9js2
I try to share and support as much as I can. I've got all the guys I play div 2 with to follow him. Just share, like and comment!
Could not have put it better myself.
Believe me when I say, you, Nothingbutskills and NGN are the top dogs of Division content on TH-cam.
You have a bright future ahead of you. :)
I'm all for more content & support for Div2. It's been the only shooter I've continuously played or come back to. My only real concern at this point is storage. They keep coming out with new brand sets, 2-3 named items, & 2-3 Exotics. Storage space is already *extremely* limited.
Limited storage has been a issue for a long time.
I don't know what kind of information the developers have on the total amount of storage used by players across the board.
This is purely speculative but, perhaps they believe that most players are not willing nor interested in collecting all of the unique gear and weapons. I mean that literally. All off it.
I think this could be possible due to the fact that there are players that like only a few different styles of play, and perhaps they would not find it desirable to seek out every piece of gear and every weapon.
I to once had the idea that I wanted to collect every piece of gear but, what I found out after filling up my stash is that, I don't like to play with every piece of gear and every weapon.
For this reason (this could possible if not likely apply to most other players) they may not see a need to make the amendment, even though players have asking for years.
I feel that you're pretty spot on about the long term goals of the Div2 dev team. Project Resolve and the short term are to bring people back or new players in, to maximize returns and player engagement before new content drops.
100%
I been playing since beginning and still figuring out all the gear pieces so hopefully your videos will assist in deciding what is best to get the most out of this game.
I'll do my best to inform as always! If you ever have questions feel free to ask!
Wow a division2 video that's actually Optimistic about the games future. Whst will the other youtubers think lol
Love the vid. Thanks for the awesome content
😂 Thanks very much!
Essentially from a game dev.
Live service go into two areas once released.
“Sustain” - actively developing for the title
“Shutdown” - getting the game in a good spot for years to come before development stops.
Now I haven’t seen the content in the new DLC yet. But it def seems the game is going into shutdown. They are probably gonna use this DLC and Heartland as “Keep Players Busy” before Division 3.
I think the special thing about Division 2 in particular is that the game was essentially put on ice long ago. After season 4 they were clearly winding down by reducing the size of the team, presumably just to have them get the game to a point where they could just leave it with a skeleton crew. Then, presumably because of covid, they attempted to continue the live service with a much smaller team which lead to much smaller updates. I feel as if the only reason this game got updated for so long and now has the chance for a third dlc was because of covid tbh.
In that sense I think it's actually the opposite from what you're saying, where the games coming from a soft "shutdown" state to the "sustain" state, which they'll then "shutdown" on Div 3 release (like Div 1)
@options9091 Thank you for the insight!
As a newer player I'm excited for all of the updates coming. Hit shd 1000 a couple weeks ago and been stockpiling exotic components for the up coming changes. Thank you for your input and views on where the game is going and what's the build in this vid😅
I'm so glad you're enjoying! Lots to come with the game still, no doubt. Here's the build! 👉 th-cam.com/video/sctJAwWYi_s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gyQ9hSe05p99g2Kg
@@RogueGold Thank you!
You're absolutely right about this. If a Toyota announces a revision to the 4-Runner for 2026, does it make sense to discontinue the model in 2025?
Hey Rogue, my brother and i would like to thank you for your effort in making quality contents from guides, lore, build etc. I hope you won't stop making The Division content and we are looking forward to see you in the 3rd installment
🙏 Thank you so much!! That's very kind. I will continue making videos and being here as long as there's people to watch 😄 Division 3 is going to be epic one day!
I used to watch some other channels for this game myself, but in my opinion there's none that compare to the quality and precise content that RougeGold puts out for "TD, TD, & up coming TD3", (just my opinion)!
We need more legendary missions please!! Honestly they need not change much to the existing missions and just create legendary missions... It's so much fun
Yes we do butttttttt..... not just the black tusk.. they need to add hyena, true sons, outcasts enemies in legendary missions.
They're definitely pushing to make the game easier for new players and for group play and team synergy. The meta for solo players will hardly shift with these changes.
Exactly! I see people freaking out about that gear lock thing and stuff from PTS. Here i just think most of the stuff won't affect me at all. I am just a solo player and basically will continue to play the same way pretty much.
For the global events rework I hope they replace the backpack keychain reward with a mask or a clothing item.
Ubisoft even stated that Division 3 isn't one of their main focuses at the moment. Massive still need to patch up Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora and Star Wars: Outlaws has been delayed to mid or late 2024. There are also the Division Resurgence and Heartland games that need to come out first before the dev team can finally start recruiting and working on the Division 3. Therefore, we have to be patient. Besides the Division 2 is pretty fun to play right now. Let's enjoy it while we can.
I would rather just see them stick with Division 2 and continue to evolve the title.
Anyone else listen to roguegold closer now that he is a cannon character in the division book hunted?
🙌🙌
I will address you as Gold forever more!..
Wait what??? I am 3/4 into the book! If he is the enemy 😳
All good factors, after reading/hearing about the patch notes coming I'm hoping a legendary open map (why the buffs, the gear upgrades n such) one could only hope
That would be really cool!
Im so glad to see they havent given up on d2 and that all i know is i share your videos with my friends to keep them up to speed
🙏 I appreciate that more than you know! Thank you so much!
I agree with what you say, I think exactly the same. In fact, I always say this to my clanmates. Also it doesn't make sense to release DLC just to finish the game. I think they want to achieve the same thing as with Warlords, that feeling of starting a different story, without losing some of our progress. I'm sure there are many things that have been left half-finished for a long time, due to lack of equipment. And now they are doing that and much more ahead. I don't think TD3 will arrive for another 5 or 6 years. And that is provided that its development begins at the end of this year.
Great analysis!
I think (and hope mostly) that future updates after Resolve come out are more experimental in trying to find the devs ideal balance for gear and weapons. The gear and weapon changes that come with Resolve seem larger and more dramatic than I can remember them ever being.
I forgot about update 1.8 in The Division Ah the good old days, another great insight into what might happen thanks, mate
Hey Rogue!!! How are you doing? I just finished The Hunted novel and man I'm excited to see how it unfolds in the future. I hope the dev team has some plans to incorporate those iconic characters from the novel into the campaign. That would be something.
Glad you liked it! And yeah seeing everything inter-connect more moving forward would be awesome!
I think all of this is just to figure out how Heartland and Div3 will be developed and we are going to experience different gameplay via Div2.
Ty gold!!! Yeah I highly doubt that the Brooklyn dlc is the last they still got a couple years for d3
Everything you said makes sense Ty for always keeping us updated on what’s going on no other streamer I feel like does this hard of work for the community!
👊👊 Thank you my friend!
I think it's going to be difficult for the devs to fully return to a controlled and curated experience, since they have introduced systems like Optimization & Expertise (which remind me of Div Tech and Classified Gear from D1), indicating the game has moved into a sunsetting phase. The fact that they are reducing the costs on these systems seems further evidence of this. Also consider how much Countdown has reduced the gear grind, and the upcoming SHD level rework - all making it easier than ever for new (and returning) players to jump into the endgame.
It definitely feels like the "let players have fun stage" - and to be fair, I have indeed being having a ton of fun since I came back to the game (thanks in no small part to you and your videos for influencing that decision lol).
Even the gear lock feels like it's primarily being done to address something in the back end rather than a decision to make the game more tactical / strategic.
The continued development of the game makes it feel like we are getting the best of both worlds - getting the shiny new things and having fun at the same time. The upcoming DLC, new story content, spec reworks, and everything else they are doing shows they want to keep players engaged while they work on D3 (which will likely be a 2027 / 2028 release IMO). I'm genuinely interested and excited to see how this will play out.
Very valid points, and I'm mad that I didn't bring up Optimization/Countdown because those fit right into the conversation 😄
With Optimization, they actually outright said on stream that they view that as an end-of-life feature, hence why it was introduced with Division 1's final update. They only introduced it to Division 2 in Season 4 because at the time, they thought that was the final update for the game. Once they learned things would continue, they said they tried to devise a new progression system that would allow for players to still have that "chase," and that's when they came up with Expertise.
Countdown 100% fits into the more "fun" side of things with it's ridiculous loot quantities, and I think that backs up my theory that during Year 4 in particular they were more oriented towards the "fun" side, before Division 3 was greenlit and long-term funding for Division 2 was not a guarantee.
With both of those examples, it remains my suspicion that the Endgame redesign in Y6S2 will attempt to address those things. Whether or not it's successful we'll see, but from what we know about it it sounds like Endgame reward redistribution is on the table (potentially lowering Countdown's efficiency), and they've previously spoken before about knowing that holistic difficulty would need to be adjusted eventually with Expertise's impact.
Sorry for the long response, again I'm just more frustrated with myself that I forgot to mention these things in the original video lol.
well man.. you gained a suscriber! quality contents , well explained thoughts! props to you my dude 😉
🙏 Thank you so much friend! Truly appreciated
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First off rogue 50k congratulations my man and secondly I just came back to the division two. I don't know what to do now.
Thank you so much! And welcome back! I highly suggest you check out this new/returning player guide I made, it explains the majority of what's up with Division 2's current-day endgame 👉 th-cam.com/video/1BfRduqxX9g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KKdOdzKMRCD2xBU0
This is for those people that think division 3 is coming in 2025. If u paid attention to what they said when they announced division 3 is coming, they are putting a team together to make division 3. That means when they announced that there will be division 3, it's in the early phase of development. Which means we won't be getting division 3 for years. It's not like COD where it takes 1 year of making because they are copying and pasting everything.
This is Ubisoft though...
@@TigerWon I know this is Ubisoft. The point I was making is it will take years to make division 3 because when they announced it, they were putting a team together. Most companies (unlike EA, Activision/Blizzard, and any shit company like them) will take years to make games. Especially if they just announced that they are putting a team together to make said game.
it doesn't make sense to do a major backend overhaul if you're only planning to release one more dlc
Yup yup
Im brand new to D2. I played and loved the original. Id love to see a you put out a video of suggestions for new players. Just subscribed to you, and im looking forward to more of your content
Thank you so much for the sub! And welcome to TD2! What sorts of suggestions are you thinking? If you haven't checked it out, I definitely recommend watching this New Player Guide I put together last year. Walks you through everything I think you need to know 👉 th-cam.com/video/1BfRduqxX9g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QMQzyXiMCTITk6hN
I've expressed this thought process on other channels when the question is asked but here we go... so Division Resurgence is coming out probably within the next few months. This free mobile game will draw in new players and keep everyone who wants to play division on their commute or slow night shift. This will in turn build interest in the main division games, especially the first as it mentions what happens in the first in Resurgence. Also with the games timeline it leads into the div 2 time. Then down the road they have Heartland which is a free battle royal-ish game which will pulling in the PUBG/COD crowd. This timeline is probably around div 2 (I think NGN has a division timeline video about it) so this will lead to interest in Div 2 and due to its similar style should also peak interest in div 1's Survival. Now we've already seen they are having crossover in game rewards for all three games. This would stand to reason they might try to crossover future div 2 updates/manhunts/dlc/incursions. Think an incursion mission for div 2 in Silvercreek, or an Outcasts event in Heartland, or Black Tusk or True Sons showing up in Resurgence NYC. Lots of crossover possibilities. But no the Brooklyn dlc is not the end point, it will be the catalyst for new material. One of my theories is that based off the end of the last Div novel (the one with the cool rogue agent) the dlc will be stopping the separation of ortiz tech channels or part of separating off like ANNA. Anyways I see lots of options for new material even with just the new factions. I mean the Freeman could have bases everywhere industrial workers are in large numbers...like say Pittsburgh or a certain former True Sons ironworks factory. I could go on for hours about little additions that could make tons of content (Psst Ubisoft). So I see Div 3 being 2026 but in other ways there's already a plan made if division 3 is approved so there's already a city picked and ubisoft employees collecting data in it as we spea...type. that's just my thought process though...
Love the crossover potential and theories! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I don't know what I was suppose to look for and advice during the PTS because it mostly felt the same in the content that I played. I know the UI in a few work benches changed, but decent still was terrible for me, and I didn't try summit. I'm all for back-end upkeep, but if they're asking for input they need to be a bit more specific. I am all for more story in TD2 and I doubt Brooklyn DLC is the end as well. That is more a full circle moment for us TD1/ hella old Division players. Revisit the beginning to start over fresh like saving the White House from Black Tusk a few seasons ago.
I think the main goal of Phase 2 was thoughts on the new Exotics/items, and just the ongoing general balancing. But I agree they could've been more clear on that
Thank you Rogue for your statements i was very confused
👍👍 Thanks for watching!
Your the best my friend. Out of all the guys and gals covering div 2 you have the best content.
🙏 Thank you very much man! That means a lot
The best Div2 content out here. Hands down.
👊 Too kind man! Thank you very much
Loved the video and the style of talking over gameplay it’s double entertaining and the jump cuts on screen are pretty funny
Haha thanks! I definitely plan to do more!
I honestly want more hunter cosmetics at this point. These stories about the hunter's have me more interested than our regular division agent. Plus it'd be nice to make our agents with more size to them lol
Cats are hilarious! I respect the solo rogue that goes after a group. At least they are confident with their ability & up for a challenge. Punks that bully people when the numbers favor their group is Uber wack! 😂 You almost got them both.
Man, I really kinda wanna go back into the game. I last played when I got my special thingy but I exhausted all the points on the map to level that special class and wasnt quite sure how to actually get enough to max out. I always loved the vibes of the game but back then destiny 2 was just so much better....nowadays I tend to see things different. Maybe I should start consuming more information about Div2.
Lots of info and commentary right here on the channel if you need it! :)
I picked up the division 2, plus the warlords dlc for 20 bucks like 3 weeks ago, so far I got 60 hours in it, and it’s been a fun experience, I’m at the end game, but decided to try the dark zone last night, overall it’s been a good fun experience, and I feel like it’s a good value! I liked the division 1, idk why I slept on division 2 tho lol 😂
Still learning, and trying to perfect my load out. How do you have so much armor?
My build is balanced between red/blue, I have slightly more blue, but idk if I should be more red, or what.
As always awesome video! And I agree, with what you say, 👍
Glad you're enjoying! The further you get into build and item collection, the more power you'll gain access to. There's progression systems like your SHD watch and Expertise levels that are providing me roughly 20-25% extra armor on top of my gear items.
@@RogueGold I think total I got like 60 hrs in the game right now, been playing it pretty heavily lol 😂 but I noticed the shd watch/level. But that makes sense I didn’t even think about it adding a boost. And do you know if you’re still allowed to do the manhunt missions? Cause it’s my maps it shows up but I can’t find any of the people I’m suppose to rescue lol.
@Unpluggeddiagandprogramming If you hover over any of the four rescue targets, it should list the name of an activity needing to be completed next in order to locate them. The first objective for all four targets is a Control Point within DC, I believe. It'll be marked in yellow on your map
When the update comes out are the things changing on the gear we have or does it need farmed again. ??
All changes are retroactive, no need to refarm 👍
With a qualified team, and proper funding, they can make a division 3 in 2 years max.
Plan? very simple, we know div 3 is coming, which means that ubisoft wants to show that they care and want to keep the franchise in the general loop. im not the most up to date with the franchise and all the current updates, however i know that we'll get updates till deep into 2025, which should be a smooth transition div 3
I would like to see "another next gen update" in TD2 with DLSS/FSR and Ray Tracing
I think that TD2 team on some point will be moved to TD3 to teach themselves on tools and bringing post release content but maybe after year 9 or something like that
Makes sense. MH Wilds was revealed, and Capcom suddenly rolled out the return to world campaign for people whose interest got piqued and wanted to see what's available now in that universe (Some of us don't like talking about Rise/Sunbreak much). Unfortunately, Div2 was left less polished than MHWorld/Iceborne was, embarassingly so, some would say, and devs needed to go back and work on it. Really interesting similarities and differences there, though admittedly MHW is not a live service game at all; the multiplayer aspects simply helped keep it alive along with the depth of content, in the same way that Div2 could be played solo for nearly everything and multiplayer adds more dimensions to it for people who want variety.
Interesting parallels indeed!
I've played a lot of Destiny 2, and they have seem to have a similar mindset when it comes to community pushback. They have so many new/casual players that they are actively making changes to benefit them more than those who have been with them for years. The amount of people leaving is exponentially less than those coming in.
Makes sense to me, great insight.
👍 Thanks Jim!
I completely agree that you have the direction of "The Division 2" pegged. If I had money to do with I'd also bet exactly what you are betting on concerning the direction of "The Division 2".
👊 Appreciate it!
@@RogueGold you're very welcome.
I think you are right. Rogue, the Devs are doing stuff to then wind it up
What's to say that what they are doing to this current game that it will directly link to division 3 where you choose 1 current character that is transferred over to division 3 giving it more continuaty to next fase.
That would be cool!
I just want to put it out there, plans change, sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse. I couldn't tell you whether or not there will still be new major content after Brooklyn, but with Ubisoft laying off and currently downsizing more and more, I don't think Ubisoft is stable, now that doesn't mean that the TD2 team is unstable (I do not have any knowledge to know but with the current way they are behaving it looks from the outside that they are stable) but at any moment that unstableness from Ubi can effect the TD2 team, it could be tomorrow, next month, years from now or never, we just have to live and see.
Completely true! Appreciate your thoughts
Just started playing this game and it’s so much fun. You can definitely lose track of time playing it though like damn
Spot on as per. Though
Feel the game is just a farm sim at mo. But love the combat loop.
I think your read on the state of the game is probably pretty accurate. The Division 2 is in a unique position as a game that had basically ended its development and entered maintenance mode, only to be resuscitated and thrust back into active development. Transitioning back from what you call "fun mode" to "controlled mode" is a tricky thing to do, and most importantly, to do right. I can't think of any other games that have been in this position, so there's no precedent for how it should be done.
Absolutely agree! They likely won't nail everything 100% moving forward, but at the very least this can all be valuable info to learn and use for the years to come
@@RogueGold Yup. I just hope they'll continue to listen to the players to help guide them. And they can start by restoring the Empress and Hana U buffs immediately!
I'm really curious how big the Brooklyn area will actually be, smaller than WoNY, bigger, will we get a new DZ even? I'm relatively sure the game will receive new content after that too, but probably not to that magnitude of a whole new open world area (new mission/incursion/raid here and there).
Personally I doubt there'll be a new DZ. But 3 open world zones and 4 main missions minimum, is my guess.
Rogue do you think the Division 2 playstion servers are dead? or close to it? I always struggle to find people to run things with on that platform
Are you playing at Level 30 or 40?
@@RogueGold 40
@jonathansloan3140 There should be plenty of people to play with then. I've never played on PlayStation, so I have no firsthand experience, however anyone I've ever spoken to from any platform says they have no problem matchmaking for the majority of endgame content
@@RogueGold my experience has been vastly different. anytime i put in any of the discords im in that im looking for people to run legendary anything it takes upwards of an hour or more for me to get a response
@jonathansloan3140 Ah well I can't speak to Discord reliability, I was purely referencing utilizing in-game matchmaking
I know you disagreed with this before but My personal thoughts are these,
1. As I said before I think the reason Div 2 is being "fixed" is that it's going to be the core (coding wise) and a way for the new Devs to practice for Div 3, much easier to repaint/reskin/ remaster and such than to build a new game from ground up, we've seen how the Devs can change a map/area to invaded and they do a great job of that so I think this is a way for the to practice on building Div 3 while "fixing" Div 2.
I've watched quite a few of the Chinese version of Div 2 and it looks shiney-er like it was past through a new snowdrop engine filter and I've also seen how they changed the structure of famous political buildings and landmarks, easy to take a city block move or restructure it around and call it a building in a completely different city.
2. I still think the NY DLC will be the last new thing (Story Wise) we get in Div 2 because it will directly tie 2 and 3 together via cliffhanger AND I wouldn't doubt that they announce Div 3 shortly after kinda like Div 1 and Div 2, I think we'll hear whispers of Div 3 later 2025 (October-ish) and Div 3 in early 2026 as March 2026 will be a 10th anniversary for the franchise, which will be a decent selling point/ad campaign.
We all know the Devs are spread thin, kinda hard making Div 3 and still creating new content for Div 2, especially content that can be in Div 3.
3. Lastly I don't think Div 3 will be overly spectacular in so far as a WOW factor, sure the game will be prettier because they have an updated Snowdrop engine, If Div 1 or 2 were "remastered" via filtering it through the new engine it would be prettier too.
I think we'll see new things like stealth and a few other mechanics but these are things they were working on in the first game so not really so "inventive" as they will lead us to believe, we are already hearing whispers of some of the new things in Heartland and Resurgence, Div 3 will just be a prettier game with a few new mechanics from those games, a giant "add-on or DLC" so to speak, everything "new" under one umbrella, which BTW I'm fine with, just keep the story moving forward and I'm good.
You gotta remember, this is a business, you don't make real money on $10.00 season passes/DLC and free game modes, ESPECIALLY on a 5 year old game.
Appreciate the detail and your thoughts as always!
I know how they can keep player retention in Division 2, Make the game FUN and less of a grind fest.
If I been working hard all day at work, why am I going to use my spare free time , Grinding in a game.
(Oh and they should bring snow to the New York DLC)😊
Snow in October? Makes sense for NY
@@40proofbleach81doesn’t have to make sense it’s a fictional game.
100% agreed, with project resolve being NEEDED to fix the foundation of the game, think of it like a house, no point painting the walls when the foundation is falling apart under the house.
with the new dlc coming, as Yannick said it himself, its not about that there is a new dlc coming and it is all cool and all, but the fact that they are allowed to make a dlc, means they have the support of ubi and are trusted to keep updating this game.
also on Div 3 coming i don-t think it will impact div 2 and its future content, i believe it will keep getting support as long as there are players for it, yannick said it himself in multiple interviews, as long as a playerbase exists they will keep bringing content. hopefully an expansion after the dlc.
I dont think we will see another story expansion after this next one maybe something smaller sure but I dont think Massive have the kind of numbers or resources required to work on so many projects at once and I would bet most the team is going to be on the working next game sooner rather than later leaving a bare bones crew to man D2
Could be! My main reasoning there is that the vast majority of The Division 2's current workforce isn't at Massive proper. A team of 1-2 dozen (to my knowledge) lead the project from Massive, and then several dozen across Ubisoft Bucharest and Shanghai provide the rest of the resources. They could certainly roll those Devs into a Division 3 team though, we'll see!
what happens to div 1 a couple years down the road? have they set a timeline for shutting those servers down? I hope it never happens but I doubt it.
No timeline. But it will inevitably happen someday, tragically.
As a new player, I’m wondering if PvP is required for good gear if someone wants to stay with PvE?
Not at all!
I wish they would give rewards or XP for shepherd ranks
There is no way they r gonna introduce all these new thgs, Brooklyn DLC, new endgame system, etc. and then stop new content. D3 is at least 3 yrs away and they continue 2 support D2 until then. U may not like the content, some1 will always h8 it. But the devs need 2 keep the hype 4 this franchise going.
Only thing i want from devs is to give players who hate raids like me some way to get raid exotics even if task needs few weeks or months to do. Not all of us like raids and doing same raid for like 30 times to get exotic is insanity. Something like division 1 with bosses in open world...
There is a small chance for the Raid and Legendary exclusive Exotics to drop from the Dark Zone 👍
I know but even if you get them buy chance there is no way to extract because people literally wait in ambushes to get them... To be honest even buying is better then dark zone, newer liked place i'm pve player. Best i can do is help someone with mission or bounty but no pvp... @@RogueGold
What backpack skin is he using in the video?
It's the System Corruption gear set backpack! 👍
I would much rather have had new content rather than a lot of tweaks to existing gear and a few new items. Its also a little contradictory as most of these buffs seem to be making the game easier and yet most veterans have been asking for more legendary missions because the game in their eyes is already too easy. Heroic missions for instance are easily doable with a half decent build. These changes to gear are great for content creators as it gives them the opportunity to make many new build videos (no criticism intended ), but really a few new items and a few buffs isn't going to keep people playing in the long term
if they wanted to keep the community interested and engaged. Why not just change up all the existing missions. Change all the spawn points for the enemy's and the number of them coming out. It just gets old grinding the same stuff over and over again. And when you figure out where every enemy is going to spawn from it becomes less and less fun, and repetitive. But instead, they spend time and resources on new gear sets and cosmetics.
I mean, I think the main thing with what you're proposing is that those are all completely separate types of Devs that they have on the team. The Art team makes cosmetics, designers work on new gear, and programmers work on functional changes to the game's content (layman descriptions). I'm sure the team would agree that modifying old content like that would be cool, but those resources are currently completely tied up working on the DLC.
@@RogueGold Well hate to say it but from a management standpoint they need to invest in more programmers and cut back in other areas. From my count there's around 44 brand/gear sets. Do we really need more at this time? Are more outfits or masks what people are wanting? The last manhunt mission was the best thing we had in awhile besides the incursion. It's just my opinion.
They never released TU 1.9 for Div 1! It supposed to be Central Park / plus an Incursion.
So I undertand from what you're saying that you think Project Resolve is actually a "rebuild" of the game for the new team to make easier to work on? It could be!
But now I have to ask you: don't you think that when WONY came out, Ubisoft really didn't have any further plan for the game, and all we are having since two-3 years is entirely "achieved" by the community (forcin Ubisoft)?
Yes, I mean they even said publicly that Season 4 was originally planned to be the final update for the game. But WONY sold very well, and some of Ubi's other projects weren't going great, so they came back to Division!
it's going scorpio hunter's fury with memento
I think they are going to keep Dov 2 going even after the release of Div 3 then fade out like Div 1
Project Resolve - not End-Life. Brooklyn. Yeah, that's the *start* of end-life. Cause, by that time, Star Wars Outlaws will be fresh on the scene and, between it's release near the end of 2024 to Brooklyn DLC early 2025, Julian Gerighty will be starting to build his dream team for TD3. Year 6 will be the segue between Brooklyn and end-life for TD2, acting as a cover of content for Julian's team to start whiteboarding TD3. With the power button for TD3 production flipped on full blast and going full steam ahead by mid-2025...Minimum of 3-3&1/2ish years to launch and we're looking maybe (IMO) early 2029 for TD3 - the earliest.
*my unpopular opinion - correction, unpopular prediction.
Not unpopular in the least, anyone's guess at this point is valid! Appreciate the breakdown!
@@RogueGold Now...if the predictions come to pass when 2029 rolls around... Do I get a free Rogue Gold hoodie...? (JK lol)
11 hours ago to 21 hours ago 😮
I'm doing solo now
I want every mission to have legendary difficulty.
Idk division 2 came out in what? 2019? And division 1 came out in 2016? Once star wars gets release i bet we'll see division 3 in about 3 years from then
I think Div 3 is farther along than what people may think. They did a lot of the heavy lifting when they started development on Div 2, so they already have many of the assets they need. The Brooklyn DLC or expansion... Whatever it is, will likely be the last major content for Division 2.
We'll see! Thanks for your thoughts 👊
@@RogueGold I hope I'm wrong in some ways, but we're talking major content right? If the DLC comes out at the end of 2024 or beginning of 2025, I can see it having a few seasons in year 6 with (I think) Div 3 releasing early spring 2026. Maybe even on the anniversary of the Div 1 launch.
That's just my thought process on it.
More incursions. I know they said no more raids (I'm hoping they change their minds). Paradise lost has provided hours of content for my friends and I.
Oh yup, I think another Incursion in Year 7 (year of content following the DLC's release) is a given. From what I can tell Paradise Lost was a huge success
Only issue, it's not fun wanting to do matchmaking for it and not having friends to play it with, since people usually rage quit when they die once.
@@NasamaPeepo what platform do you play?
@buddzilla187 Xbox, but anymore I don't bother trying to matchmake or anything.
@NasamaPeepo Sorry, ps5 here. I'd recommend discord. It's a lot of fun. There are plenty of people willing to help. I understand a lot of people have bad attitudes but it shouldn't stop you from finding a good group who are patient.
I just hope alot of shit gets reworked soon. Im tired of the only useful sets being striker and heartbreaker.
I see your point, but I just don't agree with one thing:
We are already in the "fun phase".
The game is easy as f***, and it keeps getting easier.
Getting Gear, Weapons and Exotics was never easier.
We're now getting A LOT of garanted Exotic Components to get everything to expertise 25.
I do believe that they will release some kind of content after the next DLC, but I just don't agree that we are in a more "controled phase" right now.
Fair assessment! My overall point though is that I think we'll see changes made to further cement the "control" part of things when the endgame gets redesigned in Y6S2. We'll see though!
@@RogueGold I hope you're right, but I doubt it...
Probably 2 years from dlc release is earliest we will se division 3
Agreed. 2027 earliest, 2028 likely
My main character disappeared, I'm absolutely sure I didn't delete it, would anyone please have an idea on how I can get it back.
Definitely contact Ubisoft Support, they're the ones who handle issues like those 👉 www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help
@RogueGold
Thank you guy.
I disagree with most of what you said, but one thing you are right about, The Division 3 wont be out soon. IMO not before 2028.
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i bet they have more manhunts for us!
I just want Heartland to drop :"(
can we have new specialist control wardog and ariel drone
I have fear what we get when the Y5S3 is ended!? Manhunt season re-run?
Because the new dlc is coming in 2025....
Nope! They've confirmed that two brand new Seasons will come in-between Season 3 and the DLC release. This video goes over the new roadmap 👉 th-cam.com/video/R3QQv7i6-9M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RgjKppYPQraxNsGV
Tbh the comparison between 1.8 on TD1 and the project resolve in TD2 are similar.
With 1 exception that TD3 is been announced. And for sure it needs time to create it. To keep the guys on this game (and of course the new players) they have to do something for the fun of this game. But the thing is that the current state of the game is not "available". We have too much gear sets, we have too much power. We don't have the content to use this power. We don't have the resources to have all gear sets in the inventory or stash. These are just 2 points!
I remember that Yannick said that the incursion will be soooo difficult. And what? 15-20 Minutes and that's all. Descent is also only useful to waste your time. Only interesting to collect the comms and the in-game stuff (exotics etc.). Sorry for this post. 🤘
An alternative view: they reduced season content by making season duration longer so less seasons needed, content within a season has got less, they are reselling previous season content, they have moved the dlc out a year. Project resolve rebalancing of weapons and gears is the cheapest way of introducing a new grind and filling the space they have created
I can't believe people still cover this game. It's like running across an up to date Anthem content creator. Had to give you a sub for fighting a fight that was lost many years ago.
Please. I played Anthem, and this @colby8104 this has far more depth and polish as opposed to that with so much empty space.
They will probably run div 2 into div 3
There used to be one The Division, not 2 and not 3
That’s why i left this game long time ago..
You are the D2 mogul.
That's saying a lot, thank you 😄🙏
I don't know whether you are correct, but your reasoning seems sound.
Lol I'll take it, appreciate it!
It really hurts me that we have to wait another year until the DLC when it was meant to release in like a month from now (i think?). I get that QoL updates are neccesary but i think this is too much, if they wanna keep player counts, they have to give us enough content
I think they're doing about as much as they can with what they've got. A DLC in production, and an entire redesign to the endgame (which I think is more expansive than some realize) is pretty impressive for a team of their size. Now you're right, 2024 is going to be content-light for veterans, but history has told them that Vets will consistently return after long gaps if there's sizeable new stuff to check out. So if 2024 makes the game even more attractive for newer audiences, then they likely see that as the best path with the resources they have on-hand until the DLC arrives.
Shoulda gone with the rocket launcher in the beginning. ;p
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They can confirm whatever they want, Ubisoft and especially The Division dev team has shown time and time again them confirming anything means nothing; being the champions of delays and cancelations. So I will just wait and see. And hope that Division like game of former Division devs, we saw an announcement & artwork of a few years back; is still in production. They really need a competitor that kicks their teeth in so to speak. Since Ubisoft their reputation and many of their games have tanked badly, I disagree that they can afford people walking away; but time will tell if they are actually capable of delivering solid content.
Wait. We were supposed to go back to NYC at the end of year 5 given the road map shown before year 5 was started. I sat there and watched those two spew that crap in the state of the game. Are you saying now that is not happening until some time next year? After waiting almost a year to get to the end of season 2? After they changed how long the manhunts last? And all of the other crap decisions say it aint so. Its turning out that the books, graphic novels, and audiobooks audible presentation are becoming far more interesting than the game. They are dragging their feet. Constantly doing thing people dont ask for and ignoring changes that makes sense community requested. How is that for QoL?
I think you're conflating two different content releases. Season 3 begins in 3 weeks on February 6th, this will take place in New York, and the story will revolve around Aaron Keener, the events of WONY, and mysteries we've been awaiting answers for.
Originally, the update after this would have seen the release of the Brooklyn DLC, where we're getting an all-new map and other content additions. This is now slated for early 2025.
In-between Season 3 and the DLC is now scheduled to be two other brand new Seasons/Manhunts, their stories and locations are unknown for now.
They should bring back classified gear! They should also allow us to use as many exotics as we won’t! Make a whole exotic build! They should get ride of all the BS gear/weapons that no one uses! Simplify the gear/weapons. Make new gear/gear sets that actually matter and that people will use.
It's going nowhere when the devs leave the elmos as is
And nerf regen .
It's not going anywhere
I just wish they would stop adding useless items like the new pistol and gloves