Passive Cooling just got REAL.

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  • The Streacom SG10 is a passively cooled case that can handle up to 600W of thermal dissipation and it is absolutely incredible.
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  • @ImOnMy116
    @ImOnMy116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +596

    Honestly the $1000 price sounds not much more expensive than a high end custom loop, between a cpu and gpu block, radiators, fittings, tubing, fans, pump/res, and a case, I’d say this actually seems pretty reasonable. Plus the huge added benefits of no water to flush / pumps / fans to fail! I say this as someone who has invested near $1000 into a custom loop.

    • @helloukw
      @helloukw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Problem with water cooling is that it still makes noise and I doubt that GPU will be at 60 full load like this.

    • @ImOnMy116
      @ImOnMy116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@helloukw Agreed it definitely makes noise, though 60 at full load is very doable! I have an EVGA RTX 3080 ftw3 10g, and even overclocked it never goes above 65, if you leave at stock or undervolt it, it stays below 60 under a full load easily, though I do both a 360mm and 420mm rad in my loop.

    • @Sol1taryOne
      @Sol1taryOne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@helloukw fan noise entirely depends on your setup, I have 7 Arctic P12's in my case/loop that are dead silent at 55%.. gpu (3080 TI) never goes above 55c under full load

    • @nelson.5
      @nelson.5 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@helloukw I have 140mm, 280mm, and 240mm rads, and D5 pump. At overclocked, full load running 5800x3d and 3080ti, it is complete silent from 3 feet. But, the total cost of waterblocks, radiators, pump, fittings, and case is about 1k. So, this solution is better. But, it can only do 600W and a 5090 will probably eat 600W all by itself. May need a couple slow fans on top.

    • @printedprops8730
      @printedprops8730 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@helloukw my 1080ti full load is 49c on water

  • @pyroslev
    @pyroslev 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    Oh, a 4 pack of those gauges for 100 bucks? That's a lot better than I thought it would be. And once the modders get their hands on things, they'll make sure they're usable in all sorts of ways. Love it.

    • @makatron
      @makatron 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The whole analog needle looks clean AF.

    • @zeroa69
      @zeroa69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can see those readouts being a new favorite for rice burners

    • @OddGentleman
      @OddGentleman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this is kind of old news... all sorts of e-ink small displays with widgets have already been produced, modded, etc. Unless you specifically like this bulky design, you can already buy e-ink programmable wireless display

  • @ledzep102583
    @ledzep102583 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Wonder if Calyos is going to provide systems to all they people they stole money from?

    • @SombreSyr
      @SombreSyr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      No they won't, they sent a message with in short : "A unique voucher will be issued and assigned to each backer which can then be used to purchase the SG10 directly from Calyos. Value: Value of the voucher will be your Kickstarter Reward Value (*) up to 579 EUR". They rip you off then 6 years later ask the double to give you the case.

    • @ModrunOfficial
      @ModrunOfficial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​ @SombreSyr What this usualy means is they vastly underestimated the price the product would cost to make, which means they cant afford to send anyone anything unless they wanna go bankrupt way before even half the backers got their stuff.
      and they likely spent most or all the money on trying to get a working product sellable for mass production without costing 5k$ a piece so they cant refund either.
      Its still their bad but we cant know if it was intentional or not.
      If they gave a voucher valued what was backed which is useable to buy something elsewhere which it sounds like to me, then it wasnt an intentional scam and they just wasnt able to figure out how to complete the kickstarter project with the money they got.

  • @Heavens_Rejected
    @Heavens_Rejected 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    God I hope they are still selling this case in 5 years when I can finally afford it.

    • @E3_Kruger
      @E3_Kruger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      If their prior Kickstarter performance is anything to go by you'd be lucky to get anything at all. Do not buy this. Linus did a clip from WAN show on this about why they didn't do a video on it and it comes down to one of the companies scamming backers on Kickstarter in the past. From what was said nobody recieved a single unit.

    • @snakebite2
      @snakebite2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@E3_Kruger Streacom is selling this not the Kickstarter creator big difference. The KS overestimated the difficulty of producing the OG case design. They didn't give up so I don't think it's a scam. It's not the same case but they're giving out voucher toward this new case. That's the risk of KS. The cooling tech is real so Streacom is doing the case design Calyos is providing the cooling tech. This design is much simpler than the original.

  • @konrad910
    @konrad910 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    6:39 that slap was personal haha

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Hey man! You looked at my girlfriend!"
      😂😂😂

  • @depth386
    @depth386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +274

    I remember when Linus showed a passively cooled i5 and 2070 for $6000 so…
    This is borderline reasonable.

    • @stcredzero
      @stcredzero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What about an all aluminum version for lower power levels? 300-500 watts? Reduce the design aesthetics and forget about the angling. (Or maybe just the GPU?) Also, selling "barebones" kits bundled with the stripped and heat-sinked GPU cards would greatly increase the potential market.

    • @rogerhill2707
      @rogerhill2707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It is reasonable in comparison to a custom loop (which is inherently an unreasonable flex). Compare it to air cooling though and it's no contest. High end air cooler, 60-100. Case, 80-120. Let's say you throw out the stock fans and buy expensive ones, add another 100-150. 650$ more dollars to go from a quiet build to a completely silent one. Not worth it.

    • @stcredzero
      @stcredzero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@rogerhill2707 Unless you want completely silent! (Provided there's no coil whine in your power supply and GPU.) There are applications for that. Also, some people vastly prefer the aesthetics of a completely quiet environment, where even a quiet build would be noticed.

    • @rogerhill2707
      @rogerhill2707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stcredzero Yeah check your reading comprehension I mentioned that it wouldn't be totally silent, merely quiet.

    • @stcredzero
      @stcredzero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rogerhill2707 Check your reading comprehension. It is broken if you think I alleged you said your comparable would be silent. Reading comprehension failure 2: The point is that some would have differing use cases which would require silence, which IS a different point than the one you alleged for me. BZZZT! Sorry, but you apparently don't even comprehend the reading comprehension objection!

  • @MarshallZPie
    @MarshallZPie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The full copper one looks stunning, its like a functional piece of art. I remember seeing someone have a compartment in their wall that sealed their computer, while providing filtered air, that whole system would be perfect for this case.

  • @teardowndan5364
    @teardowndan5364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The angles are likely necessary to ensure proper refrigerant circulation: when the plate boils the refrigerant, the angle ensures bubbles will rise towards the outlet and help the natural convection along instead of potentially trying to go back up the inlet and stalling the whole thing if the bloc was horizontal. Kind of neat, though I need my PC fans' noise to bury the slight humming from my UPS.

    • @TheTecnicamente
      @TheTecnicamente 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The angles are just just a gimmick to fill the otherwise unused space and make it look cool, as they cannot shrink the heatsink for obvious reasons. Ideally they would have tried to make it as compact, but dimensions are dictated by TDP

    • @teardowndan5364
      @teardowndan5364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheTecnicamente If you have a passive evaporator and condenser combo, the only thing circulating the refrigerant around is the liquid phase sealing the inlet against vapor going back up the way it came from, the angle ensuring (most) bubbles cannot go back up that way and the liquid phase's weight providing lift to move the vapor phase.
      Putting the cards on an angle wasn't necessary though, they could have made angled evaporators to leave everything else squared off. Though this would have made the evaporator taller (as tall as it is wide for a 45 deg. angle) and required more refrigerant to flood.

    • @Bourinos02
      @Bourinos02 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheTecnicamente Mhhh, I'm fairly certain they need it to avoid any backflow in the system, that's either that or full on vertical components.

  • @djwhu77
    @djwhu77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Imagine how much more it could cool with some fans

    • @MerIyn
      @MerIyn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      right just 2 blowing upwards on the copper

  • @tech-utuber2219
    @tech-utuber2219 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    2:47 "it is running at 60 C degrees" Novec 7100 engineered fluid boils at 61C so that would be my guess as to the refrigerant being used.
    3:47 "both the motherboard and GPU are at an angle" What he doesn't mention is that this is a gravity-fed, Phase-change or evaporative cooling.
    The motherboard & GPU boards are positioned at an angle such that the inlet tubes carrying refrigerant enters as a fluid into the lower entrance of each CPU & GPU cooling blocks, then the heat absorbed boils the refrigerant into a hot 60C pressurized gas (highly efficient evaporation heat exchange) out of the upper outlet flexible tubing which then flows up into the upper passive copper (or black anodized aluminum) air heat exchanger where the passive, convection air flow of the environment cools the hot gas back into a liquid (condensation) which then drops via gravity (no pump needed) back down into the cooling blocks again. It keeps cycling passively and continuously. This approach could also be done with boiling water into steam and then cooling it back into liquid but the 100C temperature is too toasty for our computers to be useful.
    By the way, if the air environment surrounding this case was hotter than 61 C temperature, the hot refrigerant gas could never condense back into a cooler liquid state and the CPU & GPU cooling blocks would begin to experience run-away conditions. No cooling!
    EDIT: Novec fluid is expensive so a cheaper option would be an alcohol variant like those used in sealed heat-pipes. It must be as the coolant loop is brazed all-metal as can be seen on the coolant blocks. The internal pressure is adjusted based on the desired boiling point.

    • @caidNL
      @caidNL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      If the air environment is hotter than 61 degrees you shouldn't be in the environment either ;-)

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the good thing about this cooler is if you ever have a problem you either have to hire an HVAC tech to fix it or get all the skills and tools to do it yourself. It's a cool concept but getting into HVAC just so your PC doesn't have a little fan noise is pretty extreme.

    • @stcredzero
      @stcredzero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bobbygetsbanned6049 There's zero moving parts on this thing. I think that fact weakens your argument, massively.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stcredzero It doesn't weaken my argument at all, you still cannot fix it without specialized tools and knowledge. And if it leaks, you can't get refrigerant, so you still need a tech.

    • @stcredzero
      @stcredzero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobbygetsbanned6049 "It doesn't weaken my argument at all" -- now that's not a good look for intellectual honesty. Instead of addressing my observation that this thing >has no moving parts< you just repeat your prior argument!
      Besides, anything at all with a heat pipe is subject to the same caveats!
      Now what, are you going to repeat your argument >again< without addressing that point as well?

  • @Ahnii
    @Ahnii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Looks good, but as far as I know Calyos already scammed their customers once (Kickstarter NSG S0 - passive case) which is why in the aftermath the Monsterlabo team split up from them. Monsterlabo offers "The Beast" (400 to 600w passive cooling case) for 750€ they are lovely people and really care about their product, therefore I won't even consider Calyos unless they not only ship working high quality products but offer better performance than Monsterlabo at as similar price.

    • @vsm1456
      @vsm1456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "The Beast" only supports 400W in passive cooling configuration. You need to add fans if you need more.

    • @Ahnii
      @Ahnii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@vsm1456 I know but the main problem is still standing!
      Calyos never delivered their product, never paid their backers back or even acknowledged it! They just went silent for 6 years, now start promoting pretty much the same product and somehow nobody from the hardware community questions them...
      (Including Hardware Canucks)

    • @timwarning9326
      @timwarning9326 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@Ahnii exactly. And now they get promoted again even though they do it with Streacom. I know people that payed 1400 euros incl. All for that chassis and it never arrived.

    • @MasteRCrysiS
      @MasteRCrysiS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Ahnii It seems LTT refused to cover them because of that, apparently Calyos won't refund ppl who bought the original NSG S0, but the "solution" of Calyos is that they will give backers a voucher (of the amount of what they spent on the original Kickstater campaign) to buy this new case, so they'll have to spend like 400-500$ more to get what they backed for, more than 6y ago. That's ridiculous

    • @Ahnii
      @Ahnii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MasteRCrysiS exactly that!

  • @genx156
    @genx156 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nice but very expensive - but I'm more worried about my desk coping with the weight - probably better on the floor (air is also cooler there) I'd definitely go for an ITX version 😁😁

  • @rrrandommman
    @rrrandommman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That copper edition case is next level beautiful, I hope I see that in Sci-Fi movies next year, but I will be ordering a set of those analog dials, that is happening, I do hope the lamps inside are RGB, red light at night and white during the day would be the coolest thing to add to my battle station. Thanks HC, Streacom, all the best.

  • @kieron88ward
    @kieron88ward 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    as someone who undervolts and spends money on quiet fans this thing is like my dreams come true. And those dials...those dials, oh yes.

  • @TheLdoubleE
    @TheLdoubleE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    I love this and can understand the pricing completely. The copper alone is hella expensive. But at 1k for a CASE? Imma head out.

    • @gucky4717
      @gucky4717 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      1000$ for the Case or 20$ for some fans...

    • @benjaminlynch9958
      @benjaminlynch9958 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The $999 price tag is for the aluminum version. They’ll have a version with copper fins, but that’ll be even more expensive.

    • @ninbura
      @ninbura 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      A case of this quality is $200+, an AIO for the CPU is $150-200, water cooling for your GPU is $300ish.
      If you do all air cooling and use your stock GPU cooler, then yeah there's a pretty big price gap. But if you were going to do open loop water-cooling for the whole system or something you're actually looking at a similar price.
      It's not just a case, it's all of the cooling.

    • @NippyNep
      @NippyNep 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ninbura i mean i can make an water loop with gpu cpu and like 3 360 rads for like 400 soo its not even that pricey to watercool

  • @Razear
    @Razear 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    If this actually delivers, it will be a gamechanger. No longer have to worry about your GPU taking off like a jet engine whenever you're playing a hardware intensive game.

    • @analogicparadox
      @analogicparadox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you have enough space, an AIO or custom cooled card is not that noisy

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'll stick with fan noise rather than commit to needing an HVAC tech to fix my cpu/gpu cooler. I don't think people understand the complexity of dealing with HVAC, if anything goes wrong you either need a bunch of tool or have to hire an HVAC tech, both are expensive.

    • @zeroa69
      @zeroa69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Noctuas are pretty quite

    • @TonyNguyenJr
      @TonyNguyenJr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depending on the refrigerant, a normal person might not be able to access it. Also, if it does get pretty hot, imagine how hot the room might get

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@TonyNguyenJr so like any other cooling solutions? 600W is 600W regardless of cooling used

  • @metalikmike1
    @metalikmike1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really like the whole thing going on with that setup and love those small displays as well...will wait for the release and see prices over in France. 🙂

  • @vailpcs4040
    @vailpcs4040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Neat idea, but I feel sorry in advance for the people who get this and then get to enjoy the amazingly clear sounds of coil whine completely unobstructed by any fan noise.

    • @Wraith1283
      @Wraith1283 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMAO yup. Also I would imagine at full load the fan from the power supply would kick in...

  • @DJgregBrown
    @DJgregBrown 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love the copper one and you seem to be the only reporter to show the copper one as other are more focused on the cheaper one. Wish I had the money for this as I building at some point a homes server/web server and thinking of a passive beast. Anyway I am off to sell a organ or three. lol

  • @colororb4105
    @colororb4105 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I can't justify $100 for a 4 pack of those displays, but I'd definitely buy 1 for $25!
    It would be neat if you could send the needle to 0% and just use it as an e-ink display.
    Maybe you could use a button to change between tracking many different variables

  • @TheMisterNebo
    @TheMisterNebo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing! Thanks so much for this review, I love to see this coming out.

  • @LabGecko
    @LabGecko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks cool (no pun intended) but I'm just imagining trying to clean that after about half a year (2 months in areas where I live where our AC is wind through the windows)

  • @retrorevival1
    @retrorevival1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i remember Dmitry reviewed the Streacom DB4 yearssss ago, still fascinating to see passive cooling options

  • @HuddledEragon
    @HuddledEragon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now the one thing I'm curious about if you would add the fans to the case how cold will it get and I know some of you going to say this case doesn't need fans but it's more of to see can the temperatures drop even more with fans.

  • @ChinchillaBONK
    @ChinchillaBONK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can hook up my 130w standing fan, that is already cooling me, to also cool this slightly.
    The copper colour is beautiful too

  • @kjellman96
    @kjellman96 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if you add fans to it using the lowest RPM?

  • @TaintedBrain
    @TaintedBrain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I want that case. I could never afford it but damn I want it.
    Crazy tech, and near silence from a system!
    Bet if I ever got the system the GPU would have coil whine or something

  • @ted_van_loon
    @ted_van_loon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    had to come here due to also loving passive cooling. even semi passive cooling, in the past I had a huge passive heat sink(even though my case did have fans) I could overclock the cpu with around 1ghz while keeping it below 40 degrees(in a room wich was in probably around 20 degrees. making some kind of convection pipe might be a great alternative for fans.

  • @NameyNames
    @NameyNames 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Really cool idea, but I can't help wondering about potential coil whine (especially from the graphics card) spoiling the party. Not much sense in completely silent cooling when there's still coil whine (I very much prefer fan whooshing to coil whine). I'd personally prefer the case to only have "intake" vents at the bottom, all other sides closed, which would at least prevent coil whine from having an open direct path to the ears.
    The price sounds reasonable (except for the copper edition, but I don't think copper heatsinks would actually improve temperatures all that much, so that edition is outside the scope of my personal interest anyway).
    Oh, and those gauges are cool too, would be nice to have a few!

  • @RuskiVodkaaaa
    @RuskiVodkaaaa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I really look forward to tests and reviews on this case, I am kind of shocked that a 4080 under load in a passive cooling beast is only running at 60C! Kind of find it hard to believe lol

    • @user-qn1zj5bs5p
      @user-qn1zj5bs5p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i put 2 P14 for cooling my 4080 with low speed basically is 0db also keeps the gpu under 65c , so this thing is not that worth

    • @projectartichoke
      @projectartichoke 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The magic of phase change and gravity. A liquid phase changing into gas can't exceed the temperature at which the liquid boils. Even water boiling on a stove will get no hotter than 100C no matter how much you turn up the heat.

    • @revolverswitch
      @revolverswitch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-qn1zj5bs5p p14?

    • @user-qn1zj5bs5p
      @user-qn1zj5bs5p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@revolverswitch arctic p14

    • @revolverswitch
      @revolverswitch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-qn1zj5bs5p so you removed the base cooler on the 4080 and replaced it with a third party one?

  • @rotopercutorash
    @rotopercutorash 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone that has a passive cooling system that can support maximum 60 TDP, this seems to be a powerhouse!
    Would love it to be a real passive cooling system. But silent/fanless is ok as well 👌 price is reasonable imo, can't wait to see it in stores!

  • @DedicatedDdos
    @DedicatedDdos 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    It's been a while since I've heard of Calyos, drove past their site a couple times here in Belgium. Nice to see them slowly move towards consumer-grade products. Having a fully silent computer has always been a dream of mine.

    • @timwarning9326
      @timwarning9326 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Didn't they do a go fund me campaign to sell very expensive full passive gaming chassis for a LOOOOOT of money and no one actually received theirs?

    • @DedicatedDdos
      @DedicatedDdos 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timwarning9326 Did a quick google and it appears the ones who backed the kickstarter will get a voucher at the value they put in for this case.
      So they'll have to cough up some more money if they still want the/a case, lowest entry was 479$ vs 999$ for this one.
      Whether that and some extras they seem to provide is gonna be worth that ~5 year wait , idk. Sorta the risk you take backing kickstarter I suppose. Not the nicest thing, but still better than what most kickstarters turn into.
      As always, the lesson here is to never pre-order an unfinished or unreleased product.

    • @Bayonet1809
      @Bayonet1809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Problem with eliminating fan noise is that coil whine becomes very noticeable, and it is arguably more annoying than the whoosh of air through fans. When I turn all the fans off on my custom loop PC and run it passive (which is fine when not under high loads) the nosiest thing is the PSU coil whine, and running the fans at low speeds (400rpm) is hardly audible anyway.

  • @shawalfida6357
    @shawalfida6357 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The copper build is absolutely gorgeous,
    Avant-garde design

  • @HuyV
    @HuyV 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there any option to mount a few fans though? For when 600W just isn't quite enough?

  • @jaymacpherson8167
    @jaymacpherson8167 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mike, at 3:52 you say mounts are at a 45 degree angle. Sure look like about 60 degrees to me. Is the display design different from the commercial product?

  • @mvargasmoran
    @mvargasmoran 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should one put this PC outside (on a window, whatever) in summer?
    much heat does it produce?

  • @Gengh13
    @Gengh13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This is awesome, it definitely looked expensive, but I understand its price.

  • @hawkins55
    @hawkins55 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never monitored temperature of dedicated GPU as I actively cooled them. This GPU is running at 60 degree C, i.e. 140F. Is that a cool temperature for GPU?

    • @KonglomeratYT
      @KonglomeratYT หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that's pretty cool for non-idle. It's also not bad for idle, unless you require your GPU fans running to maintain that on idle. Then that's not so great.

  • @wherearemytesticles
    @wherearemytesticles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the analog dials tho, can you buy a single one too?

  • @seth4321
    @seth4321 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That is absolutely sick. I’d love a fanless PC one day.

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree, $1000 sounds like HUGE underselling -- just a loop for similar capacity water cooling might be in that range, and that's not including your case! Curious as to why the copper edition will be more if it's just showing off the internals -- isn't the regular one basically a painted version of the copper?
    And the analogue displays also sound like an undersell -- I thought you were gonna say $100/piece! I'd maybe pay up to $50 each tho. Definitely excited for those! Such a cool look.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Regular version has copper coolant channels but a painted aluminum radiator.

    • @DoctorX17
      @DoctorX17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HardwareCanucks ahh, gotcha. Definitely explains that cost increase then!

  • @L330ne
    @L330ne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome... I want those nice little temp/load gauges lol

  • @TheLinkedList
    @TheLinkedList 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What refrigerant gas is used in this? I'm thinking it's the same used in car AC units. If it is, it'll probably need recharged every year or so. It's also toxic to the ozone.

  • @foxpopuli6982
    @foxpopuli6982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oooooh! I want to hear more about these gauges!

  • @lanelesic
    @lanelesic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My professor in school decades ago was always saying "The ideal computer will have no moving parts" 👍

    • @makatron
      @makatron 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Loads of mission critical terminals have passive cooling for that reason alone. Less things to go wrong.

  • @BERSERKERDEMON1
    @BERSERKERDEMON1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    will probably buy one if these get to some retailer here in Argentina

  • @TheFinalIllusion
    @TheFinalIllusion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im curious of how it would handle in higher ambient temperature conditions, surely cooler room = case?

  • @spdcrzy
    @spdcrzy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This would be a REALLY cool setup for situations where high horsepower and an absolutely SILENT noise floor is needed - or fans are impossible to maintain. I'm thinking something like a cleanroom? Maybe an anechoic chamber where testing is being done and analysis or test tweaking has to be done in the chamber itself? Any other ideas?

    • @alexmartinelli6231
      @alexmartinelli6231 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would like to use one in an audio studio personally.. would be good for video editing on speakers also

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just use an extension cord and put it in another room 🤷‍♂️

    • @ModrunOfficial
      @ModrunOfficial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      would be interesting if it was possible to record any noises coming from the cooling process

  • @RIP_Day
    @RIP_Day 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video. The Streacom SG10 looks realy intresting hope they do a realy good job with the packaging for transit. Would be a shame to get a bend case.

  • @Techno4more
    @Techno4more 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And using e ink for the guages is smart too. They got some smart engineers

  • @cheebawookie
    @cheebawookie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So if I added a few 200mm fans on the top and set them to low rpm I wonder how much more performance could you squeeze out of this?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There are fan brackets inside and with three Noctua 140mm running at 600RPM they can handle 800W+

    • @abavariannormiepleb9470
      @abavariannormiepleb9470 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The coolant is likely to phase-change at around 60 C meaning you wouldn’t be able to get lower temperatures than that but the absolute amount of heat that can be dumped into the system gets (massively) increased.

  • @hxlize4913
    @hxlize4913 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i made a passive cooling loop for a 1hp electric motor for the cost of the refrigerant

  • @zephyrdrake_
    @zephyrdrake_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This reminds me of absorbtion cooling. like what you see on some gas powered fridges. Assuming that is true, the refrigerant is likely something like ammonia.

  • @larsjrgensen5975
    @larsjrgensen5975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it 2 individual loops with 2X 300W dissipation or is it 600W shared?
    Can I use a 7800X3D at 120W paired with a 4090 450W and keep under the 600W total or will the 4090 overpower the GPU side while the CPU side almost does nothing because of the 7800X3D?

    • @zachary3603
      @zachary3603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your power consumption of the device and the cooling watts aren't directly comparable. The heat generated by the devices is only the waste heat. If you wanted to compare, you'd have to multiply the device by its efficiency to find out how many watts of heat it is producing and then you can compare that to the cooling method.

    • @larsjrgensen5975
      @larsjrgensen5975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zachary3603 The difference between power used and heat produced in a pc is practically nothing.
      With the coolers mounted around 90-95% of the heat goes into the cooler, only VRM loss, RAM and SSDs are not cooled by the cooler.
      Unless powering something via USB-C, no significant power is really leaving the PC without getting turned into heat.
      Something that will make a much larger difference is thermal transfer efficiency.
      If a 7800X3D is clocked to use 200Watts it would be practically uncoolable even if the cooler can cool 300watts, because the heat can not get away from the chip efficiently enough.

  • @chasbean
    @chasbean 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are those dials at the end called? I can't find online!

  • @_JustBeingCasual
    @_JustBeingCasual 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How well does it cool when it's like 30 a 35 degrees inside

  • @granthampson5917
    @granthampson5917 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be interesting to see if there a big difference with 2x200mm results with and without and noise recording

  • @StudyWithNika
    @StudyWithNika 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    which parts of this case can fail in lets say 5 or 10 years or will it work indefinitely ?

  • @Lakeside_Flower
    @Lakeside_Flower 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only two questions:
    What’s the weight?
    And what can I do to customize the case’s exterior.

  • @mr.electronx9036
    @mr.electronx9036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1k on this is not expensive if you see some pc cases for around $400 without cooling. Custom Loops can go around 1k to and you have to deal with water, which means, water damage risk.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Water damage risk < dealing with a refrigerant system. If anything goes wrong with this coolant system you gotta hire an HVAC tech for $300hr to fix it lol.

  • @sergiofonseca2285
    @sergiofonseca2285 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The radiator on top should give us an estimation of RTX 5090 size

  • @PropaneWP
    @PropaneWP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Coolest thing I've seen at Computex so far.

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516
    @kasimirdenhertog3516 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know what the PSU is they’re using? I’ve got a fanless PSU from Seasonic that is rated at 700W, but from my experience, without any airflow it struggles to do even 500W.

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is so beautiful!

  • @christinehede7578
    @christinehede7578 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will this passive cooling work when the ambient temperature in your house is 30C or higher as it is frequently in my house in summer. I have no air conditioning.

    • @ModrunOfficial
      @ModrunOfficial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ambient temp doesnt matter between different cooling solutions.
      Except in this very specific case where the liquid inside the tubes are suspected to boil at 61c according to others in the chat, which means the ambient temp cant be above 61c otherwise itll never turn from gas back into liquid to keep the loop going.
      but at 61c you shouldnt be there anyway so thats irrelevant XD

  • @yobananaboy2003
    @yobananaboy2003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need more of this passive cooled PCs.

  • @KonglomeratYT
    @KonglomeratYT หลายเดือนก่อน

    He just smacked the guy XD I may not be able to *feel* his enthusiasm, but that worker sure did!

  • @DaaronIrwing
    @DaaronIrwing 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope this case can block any noise like coil whines.

  • @braydennturner
    @braydennturner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Definitely interested in this if they can hit the $1000 price tag.

  • @sampriceii2448
    @sampriceii2448 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The refrigerant is the majority of the cost. They can charge by the oz. instead of lb. because it is a modified special refrigerant.

  • @cerrobend5050
    @cerrobend5050 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    0:48 "partnered with a company called Calyos" you mean the same company that launched a 250k euro kickstarter campaign for a similar passively cooled case (the nsg-s0) and delivered nothing?

  • @Nolsie
    @Nolsie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how long you’d need to use this case before the metal cost offset the electrical cost..

    • @ModrunOfficial
      @ModrunOfficial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what electrical cost difference would that be?

  • @DanElgaard9
    @DanElgaard9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's been 7 months since this video - any link to where to buy?

  • @thebigbeje
    @thebigbeje 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what's the name of the small analog indicators? maybe a link anyone?

  • @hwuk4255
    @hwuk4255 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing work

  • @drew42228
    @drew42228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the UK this will be great. Heat a room up without getting another mortgage. This thing should pay for itself lol

  • @HCGonzalezJr87
    @HCGonzalezJr87 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely interested but would come down to temperatures and performance. I have an 360mm AIO on my 5800X3D, 240mm AIO on my 4090, undervolt both, set custom fan curves, set tj max at 65C for both and have a great time with cool and quiet 4K120hz gaming. If this has similar performance or maybe even better I'd definitely consider it for my next build vs a custom loop.

    • @vsm1456
      @vsm1456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They say if you add fans it can cool 800W+. With 4090 I think the margin is a bit too small.

  • @ASLUHLUHCE
    @ASLUHLUHCE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like his enthusiasm

  • @jayw3688
    @jayw3688 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How does something like this perform in a hotter ambient temp environment? I can't Imagine it cooling as well in a bedroom.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Performance would scale backwards

  • @Drewkungfoo
    @Drewkungfoo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lmfaooo that light smack

  • @jafs65
    @jafs65 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm more into Frore systems cooling, but this looks nice as well!

    • @P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV
      @P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Frore is about heat transfer to air. You can think about it as a radiator. This is about heat transport, like the water in a watercooling loop.

  • @BrianThomas
    @BrianThomas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should have put the camera closer to those e-ink gauges. They look pretty neat. I wonder how detsiled the display is.

  • @SevericK_BooM
    @SevericK_BooM 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will absolutely be eyeing this when I build a 50 series build in a few years. Right now I have a dual aio ITX 3080 5800x3d with a 280 and 240mm rad. Yes, in an ITX. So this is just the natural progression.

  • @zxSwifty
    @zxSwifty 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would actually be interested in these cases if they can handle high end cpus and a 4090, will wait for testing.

  • @willfullyinformed
    @willfullyinformed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember having a conversation I had with my friend about 5 years ago. "Fanless PC's can't happen, it doesn't make sense, we are probably an extremely long ways off from even slight changes, I don't think it will ever happen" - Friend.
    "Well, I think we are just a few years away, human innovation is incredible, and when they put their minds to it. We are already seeing ideas, and people working towards solutions to make this happen so it's only a matter of time. It might be some type of coolant fluid with some type of element that will keep it cool and cycle out the heat, something ingenious that will get rid of fans we haven't even thought of yet" - Me.
    "I just don't think it will be in our lifetime and you have to move the heat somehow and fans are the only way" - Friend.

  • @vmaldia
    @vmaldia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Make a version with half the cooling that costs maybe 750 dollars then slap on 2 cheap 120mm fans on top

  • @alexmartinelli6231
    @alexmartinelli6231 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The all copper one would be amazing for my needs :)

  • @saeednaser7700
    @saeednaser7700 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how much does it cool the system tho

  • @PhilipChou
    @PhilipChou 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would pay $1000 for a passive case solution. A 2 to 3 K cost for the copper version would be reasonable if it could have higher heat capacity. Great video!

    • @ModrunOfficial
      @ModrunOfficial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well im no engineer but im pretty sure that since copper has some +30% conductivity or whatever it was, it makes sense to me that the copper case would atleast be able to handle 700w compared to 600w aluminium.
      That might not be worth the cost but atleast that means it might be able to handle a 4090 instead of 4080 so it might make sense for some users.

  • @amigodesigns
    @amigodesigns 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The raw coper version looks super nice

  • @MrLangobard
    @MrLangobard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact that this is being advertised as something ''new'' is blowing my mind. The only ''wow'' thing is the formfactor. There are groups of passive-cooling people who started with simple copper shroud designs and ended up with very good results. It's good that mainstream market gets this finally, but to call this new... it's the same as discovering sliced bread in a different shop. Still a nice video.

  • @freddyzepeda154
    @freddyzepeda154 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really liked these products, very interesting designs

  • @reconciliation86
    @reconciliation86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How are they cooling VRMs, RAM, etc.? Is it just based on passive air flow?

  • @Apoz
    @Apoz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would really like to see some high quality, affordable SEMI-passive cooling cases.

  • @Amin2k
    @Amin2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome stuff

  • @_land_lines_
    @_land_lines_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By a looong shot the coolest thing I’ve seen in computex coverage so far

  • @realramo
    @realramo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What i like here is the absence of dust vacuum from the fans

  • @JiajuChen
    @JiajuChen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The eink is absolutely brilliant!
    That's an immediate buy, ------------ if the size is not so huge!

  • @shapelessed
    @shapelessed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm so sorry for being a stickler (not really actually)
    ...but the PSU fan is SPINNING! It's *ACTIVE*!

  • @Micharus
    @Micharus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I know it kind of defeats the whole passive cooling thing, but can you imagine if you put a single fan onto the cooling block running at minimum speed? It would be interesting indeed.

    • @Techno4more
      @Techno4more 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, just place your PC near your ac vent. That should work well without adding extra noise

    • @christinehede7578
      @christinehede7578 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Techno4more What if you have no air conditioning like me?

    • @zeroa69
      @zeroa69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats what i was saying. A couple 140mm noctuas and its the best of both worlds. Im sure ltt will do exactly that when they get one in the lab.

    • @zeroa69
      @zeroa69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Techno4more id be leary of condensation forming if you do that.

    • @ModrunOfficial
      @ModrunOfficial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      unless the AC is completely silent somehow (from my experience AC has always been hella loud?) having ac on with a passive case completely defeats the purpose of the case?